Die Hard

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast where every weekwe recommend a movie for you to
watch and come back here andlisten to us discuss.
I'm Jesse and I'm Jason.
Now I have a machine gun.
Ho ho, ho, because this week werecommend Die Hard.
Merry Christmas y'all.

(00:33):
What makes this a Christmasmovie?
Is it just the jingle bells andthe score?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
The fact that it's Christmas Eve and it plays Let
it Snow at the end, I guess,wraps the guy up in Christmas
stuff, because I was looking atthere's a Reddit post about
there was a debate about whetherit's a Christmas movie or not
and one of the comments was likeI've got a better question Is a
hot dog a sandwich?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, I don't know.
It's one of those things whereit's like everybody likes to
debate it.
But I'm like I don't know.
If a movie takes place duringChristmas and they're having a
Christmas party and they'reliterally have sleigh bells in
the score of the movie, I'm likeI think it's a Christmas movie.
It's just in LA, so it doesn'tlook snowy.
That's it.
Carl Winslow's and all theChristmas movies.

(01:14):
Yeah, that's true, but I mean,yeah, do you?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
think he did it.
Really I don't think so Right.
I don't think so right, I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I think that was just a rumor.
I don't know enough about it.
I just hope Bruce Willis isn'tinvolved with P Diddy, If that
happens then just kill me,because Bruce Willis fucking
goes in this movie, baby, ohyeah, why do you think they
chose Bruce Willis for this?
Well, so they went to everybodyelse.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, they all turned it down arnold
sylvester, sloan burt reynolds,richard greer, all of them, they
all turned it down.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
They're like apparently nobody wanted to do a
terrorist movie, oh, which, uh,ended up.
The director, john mcterian,said I didn't want to do it
because it was going to be aterrorist movie.
So he's like well, let's turninto a robbing, like a robbery
movie.
They're still terrorists, butthey're there to rob, not blow
up the entire country and thenbut they do like to have.

(02:14):
They have a lot of explosives.
Yeah, they do have a lot ofexplosives, but they're fun
terrorists yeah, yeah, prettyfun.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Um, I feel like they could have had schwarzenegger as
one of the German.
Yeah right, the Austrian guy,the Carl the big one.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
But so and they were looking for people and the show
Moonlighting was on and that'swhat Bruce Willis was in, and
they offered him the movie andhe wasn't going to do it.
But I guess what's her name?
That's in it.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
His girlfriend, the girl in Moonlighting.
God damn.
I just looked it up.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I don't know, I can't remember, but anyways, sybil
Shepard, I believe, is her name.
She got pregnant and so he wasable to do the movie.
She gets fired immediately forthat, and Bruce Willis wanted to
do the movie, but he couldn'tbecause of the show.
She was pregnant myself.
And then they like gave himfive million dollars and he was

(03:13):
like I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's like I should have.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
And then, which actually kind of rippled
throughout all of cinema,because people were like you're
giving this guy who does TV fivemillion dollars.
Bruce Willis said it's likeeverybody should be happy
because I gave everybody a fivemillion dollar pay bump on all
their movies from here on outNice.
Because they gave a TV actorfive million dollars.

(03:39):
Oh yeah, and he's.
He had a quote.
It's like you know what.
No one ever talked to me aboutit and I didn't even receive a
Christmas card for it.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Well, yeah, he's so good in this and I think, but
you couldn't have his scriptwith Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I think, because whenever hedid Commando, Was it Commando.
All of his oh man, hisone-liners, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
All of it's just constant bad one liners all the
time.
And so this the script waswritten by Jeb Stewart, who he
did a lot of like more seriousaction movies, and so they fired
him.
Actually because John JohnMcTiernan wanted to, wanted to
add something funny to it,because his biggest issue with
the script was like this is nofun.
I want like let's make it funny.

(04:26):
So that's why he got like the Iforgot his name, uli or
whatever.
The Asian guy gets a candy barwhenever he's just like waiting
to shoot.
One got the crunch bar yeah.
And then the what the SWAT teamguy runs into a thorn bush.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
He's like ow, or like when the big tank-looking thing
just crashes on the stairs.
Yeah, I don't even think thatwas meant to be funny, but it
was to me yeah, I think itprobably was.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
They're like oh, what if we have this giant thing?
It's like damn.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Can't go upstairs, though.
Let's ram the building.
Yeah, maybe they'll fall out.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So, yeah, maybe they'll fall out, but so the guy
that came in to help write itwas Stephen E DeSouza, and I
believe that was him.
Right, yeah, let me see apicture of him.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
See he wrote Commando in 48 hours.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So that was the guy that brought in all the humor
into the movie and once they gotthat makes so much sense.
And they had trouble with Brucebecause they're like it's like
on the small screen he was acharming asshole, but on the big
screen he's kind of coming offas just an asshole, but a funny
asshole, yeah.
So, steven and Bruce, they gottogether and had dinner and he

(05:41):
was like, yeah, add more comedy,because Bruce Willis likes to
do comedic things, and I thinkthat's why I like him the most.
I think he might be.
My favorite action star isbruce willis.
Yeah, hell yeah, dude, becausearnold you just can't do much
with him.
He tries, yeah, it's likewhenever you make him normal,
it's like who the fuck is thisjohnny guy?

Speaker 2 (06:02):
like in all the ones where he's like the kindergarten
cop.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah.
It's like we should questionwhy this guy's here, but he's
big.
You got Sylvester Stallonewho's, you know, love him.
He's great in all the Rockymovies.
You know he can't really act.
It's just very unnatural peopleyou know, Call me Joel McClane.

(06:26):
This is very unnatural people,you know.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Call me joel mcclain, you're fine and then with bruce
willis it's like, hey, this isa regular guy and he's just kind
of cool.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
He gets the shit kicked out of him I know and you
can tell and I just love theprogression of him getting
dirtier and dirtier and dirtierhis little tank top it's so good
, yeah, I've got a lot of tanktops that look like that.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
But I haven't been doing the same thing.
Yeah, I just roll around,mostly just eating spaghetti.
I just roll around in the mudby myself.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Damn.
I just actually ended up sayinglike all my, all my main facts
actually.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Do you think this movie set like a precedent for
every action movie that cameafter?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
That's why you got Speed Cliffhanger Die Hard on a
Bus Die.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Hard on a Mountain, die Hard in Space.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah.
I mean it kind of it changedeverything, because eventually
people would just come in withscripts and just be like this is
Die Hard blank, this is DieHard blank and that's it was
selling movies.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I mean that's how we got Speed.
What year did it come out?
Was it 88?
88, yeah, yeah, and my wife wasborn.
Aw, she's as old as this movie.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I literally Wow, I shouldn't have said that I
couldn't have.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'm in trouble.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I just immediately was like I have no, I have no
idea what to add.
So Speed directed by JohnDeBond, who filmed this movie.
He was the cinematographer onthis movie, oh shit, and he did.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Just wasn't fast enough for him he did Die Hard
on a bus later.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Another interesting fact.
To bring it back to ourprevious movies, shane Black was
responsible for the movie title.
The title Die Hard came fromLethal Weapon writer Shane Black
.
It was his original title.
The title Die Hard came fromLethal Weapon writer Shane Black
.
It was his original title forthe Last Boy Scout, but Joel
Silver managed to convince himto hand it over when they worked
together on Predator NothingLasts Forever.
Author Roderick Thorpe, who isthe guy that wrote the book Die

(08:19):
Hard, but it was called NothingLasts Forever, was furious about
the name change.
He confronted Silver, who toldhim the best thing that ever
happened to your book is thismovie.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Oh man, that's a bad name for a book.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Nothing Lasts Forever .

Speaker 2 (08:34):
It's a.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
James Bond thing.
Oh yeah, I mean that justsounds like a James Bond title.
It's not a James Bond book, butyeah.
So the original book wasactually a six-year-old who was
trying to like save his daughter, like being around like cocaine
dealers or whatever in abuilding or something, and like

(08:54):
he ends up dropping her at theend instead of like Alan Hans
Gruber, and it was more of likeyou know, like 1960s type
detective stuff.
Not really like hey, yo, I justgot done eating a pizza in New
York.
Now I'm going to Christmas Evein LA.
I don't know what that you knowevolved into there, but it's

(09:17):
kind of weird.
So John McTiernan was in.
I feel like we should talkabout John McTiernan real quick.
Do you know everything he'sdone?
No, well, he did.
Predator right Predator.
Last Action Hero Die Hard.
13th Warrior Hunt for RedOctober.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh, 13th Warrior.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, that was cool.
Die Hard with a Vengeance,thomas Crown Affair, hell yeah.
And then he ruined his careerwith Rollerball the remake
Rollerball.
God bless him.
God bless him.
Sorry that had to happen to you, but you did that really bad
movie that I enjoyed as a kid.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Wait, rollerball, was that what is?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
that they're on roller skates.
Yeah, die hard on skates.
Yeah, they're doing Die Hard.
And Rollerball Die Balls theperfect combination.
But John McTierian was inspiredby William Shakespeare.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
He says he saw Die Hard playing out like Is that
where he got Ellen Rootman?
Yeah, who put a thespian inthis movie?

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, he saw Die Hard playing out like a midsummer
night's dream, a festival nightwhere everyone's involved In his
mind.
He made the festival Christmasand turned it upside down.
The princes in the story becomefools, like making the FBI and
police look stupid.
The fools in the story becomeprinces, like Powell and Argyle.
Then the next day the worldgoes back to normal, with the

(10:37):
lovers reunited.
Mctiernan didn't want to tellproducer Joel Silver that he saw
it like this for fear of beingfired Because Joel Silver only
likes beefcake men and tough guystuff.
That's why all his movies havegiant explosions and usually two
to three.
That's funny which theexplosions in this movie look
sick.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah, I will say that this movie looks a lot better
when you're not watching it on ateeny little TV.
Yeah, the old TVs, yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Oh, dude, like with my frown sounds.
Oh, the gunfires.
Oh, cool, let's see.
So during the first screeningfor Fox executives for the movie
, mctiernan noticed that therewas a mistake in the scene where
Hans and his crew walk out ofthe back of the truck.
When they arrived, there wasnothing behind them in the truck
.
But when they arrived, therewas nothing behind them in the

(11:23):
truck.
But there should have been theambulance that Theo drives out
later in the film.
Without the option of digitallyadding an ambulance, mctierian
decided to trim the scene down.
This caused a ripple effect onthe film because there were key
elements that had to go.
As a result, the cut sceneshowed Hans and his crew
synchronize their watches here.
It established that they havethe same timepiece.
Later, mcclane would noticethat all the terrorists he kills

(11:43):
have the same watch, includingthe scene when he first meets
Hans, when he poses as Bill Clay.
So that's how he knows Hans isactually.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Oh, because of the watch, because of the watch,
because I didn't know, I wasgoing to ask you what you
thought about that.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, I was going to end up skipping this thing, but
I was like, oh yeah, yeah, theydon't show the watches and he
has no reason to believe thisguy, except for the fact like,
why the hell are you up?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
here and he just talked to him on the radio like
five minutes ago.
So that's what I thought, howhe figured it out.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, and he was just like you know but in the movie
it just looks like oh, it's justclassic hero, knows everything
and is good at everything.
But no, like.
But I mean, I guess it wasalready a long movie, so I get
cutting it they could have cut alot more yeah.
Just in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
It just takes so long .

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, and that's all just to set up further scenes
later.
You know, the feet thing had toset up because he got to walk
on glass park all stuff, argylestuff, just so he can ram the
ambulance and it's just like,come on, let's go, let's go, got
a set up Ellis as being acokehead, so he does something
stupid and it just it's all justthere to build up.
Hey, mcclane, you're gonna havea really bad time at this

(12:55):
Christmas party, yeah, um, soAlan Rickman thought he was
gonna be fired on set.
Casting director.
So Alan Rickman thought he wasgoing to be fired on set.
Casting director.
Jackie Birch wanted Rickman toplay Hans from the get-go.
She became aware of him from asubmission of his she received
when she was casting Red Heat.
She wanted to play a Russianheavy, a theater actor.

(13:16):
Diehard was Rickman's moviedebut and he was nervous in the
early days of shooting that hewas going to get fired.
He heard whispers that therewere concerns that he couldn't
fire a gun without blinking andthe fact he could his limp was
always a risk, or his wrist wasalways limp.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I know it was funny watching him shoot the gun
because he's like a kid with anew toy like that he's scared of
.
Yeah, there's this one partwhere he runs out and to
intimidate all the otherhostages and he does this like
points his gun in the sky andlike leans over, does this pose?
And he shoots the gun to theceiling like hey, yeah, like the
most flamboyant villain.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
It's like you can tell it's like a theater kid
that, yes, got to be a criminalbaby, bang, bang, um.
But so, like the john de bontand joel silver, they saw like
you know how I kind ofuncomfortable he was with like
the gun and all that, andthey're like no, we like this.
There's actually somethinginteresting going on here.
It's great, though.

(14:14):
Uh, alan rickman.
I've watched so many alanrickman.
He's like the king of christmasreally.
Yeah, I mean think he's in allthe Harry Potters.
They're practically Christmasmovies at that point, love
Actually Die Hard.
There's another one I'mblanking on.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
He's even the villain in Love Actually.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, right, I know it's the saddest part of the
whole movie.
It's like shit.
And it's kind of my favoritelike story in that because it's
you know they're just so all thegood actors are there in that
one and it's just like damn it.
Why'd you have to?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
do it.
Yeah, I loved Alan Rickman umgrowing up Cause he was the you
know sheriff of Nottingham andRobin hood.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
And yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
God loved him in that one.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
He's so silly, just like off the wall yeah, crazy, I
don't know I need to watch that.
I've never seen it.
Um, I guess we'll just kind ofend it on uh, yeah, we'll end it
on this one dig your heart outwith a spoon anytime.

(15:30):
I think of Robin Hood, I justthink of Men in Tights.
I just can't think of any otherone.
Dave Chappelle's in it so goodthey do their terrible little
dance.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Oh god, it's horrible .

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Oh God, it's great, horribly great, so bad.
So Rickman was caught unawarewhen he dropped from the top of
Nakatomi Tower.
Mcterion persuaded Rickman todo this stunt himself, and he
had to go through training tolearn how to fall backwards.
He had to bring the gun up,whilst also remembering to
spread his arms and legs toallow for a safe landing.

(16:06):
If he didn't, his body wouldlikely turn and he would land on
his head.
The stunt was performed onstage with a blue screen
background that was replacedwith a shot taken from upper
floors of Fox Plaza, which isactually the building that we're
in.
Yeah, and it was just acrossthe street from from where the
studio was.
Cool, mcterion did it first,again to show how safe it was.
The effects coordinator saidthat the rig operator would drop

(16:27):
him at the count of three, butsecretly arranged to drop him on
one.
What an asshole.
To capture genuine fear andterror in Rickman's eyes.
They did a second take, but itwas the take one that made it
into the film.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Smart though Smart it's like let's confuse them and
freak them the fuck out.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
But it rules.
That's such a really good shot.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Spend all day doing.
Trust falls and then you fuckwith them.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, okay, I can trust you now, just like
immediately.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Never coming back here again, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, we'll run down the cast list and then
we'll get started, baby.
So, bruce Willis, john McClane,alan Rickman, hans Gruber.
Bonnie Bedelia is Holly We'lltalk about her later.
Reginald Vail Johnson isSergeant Al.
Paul Gleeson is Dwayne TRobinson.
You know the principal inBreakfast Club is Sergeant Al.
Yeah, paul Gleeson is Dwayne TRobinson.

(17:25):
Um, you know the principal inBreakfast Club, oh shit, yeah,
he's the detention guy orwhatever.
All right, he's the asshole,yeah, um.
And then you got Argyle uh,devereaux, favorite pattern of
sucks, yeah.
And then William Arthur, arthurArthurton, he's the bad guy in

(17:46):
Ghostbusters.
He's the asshole inGhostbusters, the ghost, yeah.
And then Hart Botchner, who'sEllis, who's my favorite little
cokehead.
And the last one's going to beAlexander Godunov.
Godunov, he's Carl.
They found him because they sawtapes of him as a ballerina and
was like hey, you lookmagnificent, you got the stuff.

(18:08):
Come be in our movie and he'syour tutu and he you know, he's
my third favorite favoritecharacter.
That's awesome.
I mean, he's so great.
He's just a big pissed offblonde boy, my favorite type of
blonde boys.
But yeah, what a cast.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Freaking crush it.
I really enjoyed watching allthis stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah, I know he's such a.
I make million dollar deals forbreakfast.
Classic 80s coke head.
That's like man.
You've definitely donesomething inappropriate with a
woman.
It's because, as soon as hewalks up, I'm like dude, you've
definitely done somethinginappropriate with a woman.
It's because, as soon as hewalks up, I'm like dude, you got
to get this guy out of youroffice.
When you have the pregnant ladyin with her and he's in there,

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it's like no, don't tell her toleave.
She needs to stay with you.
All right, so we're going tostart, all right.
On Christmas Eve 1988, johnMcClane sits on a flight headed
towards Los Angeles.
A fellow passenger noticesstress and tells him that the
best cure is to take his shoesoff and just put his feet in the
carpet and make like knuckleswith your bare feet.

(19:17):
That's nice.
I do that sometimes in themorning when I get up.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I'm just like, ok, I do it when I'm, like on the edge
of sleep.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, when I get up I'm just like, okay, I do it
when I'm like on the edge ofsleep, yeah, and so, and also
during this we learn that he hasbeen a cop for 11 years in New
York.
Then we cut to him getting hisbaggage, and then the terrible
titles which is kind of just athing in old action movies come
up as diehard, and also thetitles for, like producers and
stuff like block some of theshots and main characters

(19:46):
throughout the beginning of themovie.
I'm like, what is this Likesmaller titles, guys?
After landing and collectinghis luggage, John sees a
chauffeur holding a sign labeledJ McClain.
The driver, Argyle, drives himto Nakatomi Plaza and on his way
roots out that John still worksas a police detective in New
York City but that his wife,Holly Gennaro, relocated to

(20:08):
California for a great career.
Both John and Holly thought theother would bend and move to
join the other, but they areboth too hard-headed.
Argyle does a really good jobat getting information.
He should have been in thebuilding.
He would have annoyed everybody.
Like all right, I'll just tellyou everything.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
His car is his home though.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, man, he cranks it yeah he does what he cranks
it in his little I know and Ilove that.
Um, john mclean's like uh, whatdo we do now?
Our guy's like I don't know,this is my first day.
It's like, all right, I'venever been in a limo, it's like
this first day driving it.
So.
And then katsuo, they're bothin the front seat and Argyle has

(20:47):
the front seat kind of messyand he's like sorry, I didn't
think you'd sit up here.
Yeah, this is kind of a weirdthing to do, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
In a limo.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
It's like I just want to be in the back of a limo.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I was valeting cars.
I parked John Daly came to thehotel, right the golfer.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
And he was driving a Maybach.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
I think it was called Super fancy car, right, it's
like a limousine, but he wasdriving it.
So when I parked it I was likethis is the most expensive car
I've ever sat in.
So I went and sat in the backjust for a little bit to feel
fancy.
Yeah, did you crank it?
No, you should have, I shouldhave, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
So cut to Nakatomi Plaza.
Joe Takagi addresses hisemployees of Nakatomi
Corporation at their companyChristmas party on the 30th
floor.
He announces that they that daywas one of the most successful
days in the company's history.
Holly Gennaro walks through thecrowd finishing up some
paperwork.
She walks down a hallway.
Her co-worker, harry Ellis,flirts with her as it says hey,

(21:53):
I just said cocaine, you shouldcome over.
She arrives at her officeoffice.
She excuses her pregnantsecretary.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
He wants to get some alcohol in her even though she's
about to bust.
She also kicks Harry out thedoor.
Pregnant secretary who wants toget some alcohol in her even
though she's about to bust.
She's smoking.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
And she also kicks Harry out the door.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
This baby's going to be fine.
Do you think I could have a sip?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
No, dude, you're almost done being pregnant.
You're so close, maybe it'llpop before.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
New Year's Eve Five more minutes, and then you can
drink.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
So she then speaks with her young daughtery and
nanny paulina on the phone aboutjohn's arrival, stating that
she isn't certain if he made hisflight or not.
She looks at a photo of herjohn and the children, and she
sighs and places it face down onthe shelf.
Though yeah, she's a careerwoman now.
Thank god she did that, though,because the movie would have

(22:43):
been over quicker oh, becausehans would have noticed.
Yeah, and let's see it'd be acompletely different movie at
that point.
So john's limo pulls up at theentry of nakatomi plaza.
Our guy tells him he will waitin the garage until john calls
and informs him that he's madeother plans.
Because he's like do you got,do you, are you staying anywhere
?
And he's like I'll figure itout.

(23:03):
He's like do you got, do you,are you staying anywhere?
And he's like I'll figure itout.
He's like I'll just stay heretill you figure it out.
I'm a great driver, yeah, sothoughtful.
I mean, if you could just getpaid to sit in a limo all day, I
would do it.
So John greets the securityguard and uses a computer to
find out that Holly has changedher name, last name, to her
maiden name, gennaro Love.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Generic.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yeah, I love this computer.
The security guard's like whoare you looking for, Holly
McClain?
He's like, well, just look onthe computer and then he presses
it.
I was like, oh, all the peopleare up on 30th floor, they're
the only people here.
And it's like hey guy, maybejust tell them that from the
start.
We don't have to do this wholecomputer thing.

(23:45):
But they're just trying to showhow high tech this place is, so
it's like whenever the bad guyscome in, they're like okay, so
they can kind of control thewhole building with the
computers.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I see.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, but it is just like dude, Use the fancy
computer man.
Just tell them where he's at.
So he takes the elevator to the30th floor, walks to the party
and meets Joe Takagi, who showshim to Holly's office.
In the office sits Harry Ellis,who obviously finished snorting
cocaine.
Just got the milk mustache.

(24:16):
Yeah, because he introduceshimself and John informs him
that he missed some and Harryquickly brushes his nose with
his finger.
Then Holly enters.
Ooh la la.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Let the romance fly.
She's like cut me a line, bitch.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, dude off my butt.
My husband's never coming here.
Walks in the door.
Oh shit, bad timing.
Why did we yell all this?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
right outside the store.
It's a party, yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Holly enters and the two jilted lovers give each
other a subtle greeting acrossthe room.
Ellis informs John that Hollyjust closed the biggest deal in
company's history and received anew Rolex watch.
And Ellis is like here look,look at this watch.
Come on, show them.
It's going to be a plot pointlater.
Come on, please show them.
It's going to be a plot pointlater.

(25:06):
Come on, please show them.
It's like dude, chill out withthe fucking watch.
Okay, I get it, he really is.
It's like, hey, plot pointlater.
This is going to be a thing inthe movie.
Make sure you look at thisaudience.
All just so we can do a bit atthe very end.
I guess watches were a lotbigger back then.
Yeah, I mean a Rolex back thenDang High roller.

(25:27):
Yeah, I don't know, I wouldlove to have a watch.
I just know I'd probably notlose it and not wear it.
Yeah, I'd just be uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
I'd be like every wristwatch I've ever owned has
been stolen.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh really, yeah, damn dude, don't buy one, because
you know you're about to getrobbed or something.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Yeah, like Ashley wanted to get me an Apple Watch,
I'm like no, no, I don't, yourkids would just take it,
couldn't wear it anyway.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
So Joe and Ellis leave as John asks for a place
to wash up.
As John washes up, the twocomment that they missed each
other but quickly begin arguingabout Holly's decision to move
to California.
Then they are interrupted byJenny who just had seven glasses
of champagne even though she'spregnant.
Her request Holly to join theparty.
That was a bit of a great time.
Yeah, I love it, it's soperfect.
It's like, oh man, oh, we stillso love each other.

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Immediately start getting in anargument because they just
can't help.
But like he's the passion, yeah, the passion, yeah the passion.
It's like you know, honestly,I'd be like, yeah, I'll move to
LA.
You're obviously in a high riseand making plenty of money, I
will stay in LA with the kids.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
He'd just be a cop in LA, couldn't he?
No, I would just stay home sella Rolex, if we have to.
He'd be the best dressed policeofficer in LA, like bad boys,
will Smith, driving a fuckingFerrari, if we have to.
He'd be the best dressed policeofficer in LA, right, like Bad
Boys.
Yeah, will Smith.
Yeah, driving a fucking Ferrari.
I'd probably look more likeEddie Murphy in 48 hours.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
So outside a Mercedes pulls up at the Nakatomi Plaza
entry as a Pacific Courier truckpulls into the garage.
Carl and Theo approach theNakatomi security guard at his
desk, while Theo talks aboutbasketball nonchalantly and Carl
shoots the guard in theforehead.

(27:16):
Two points, ouch.
I love Theo.
The actor is the guy fromWalker, texas, rangeranger he's
like the sidekick and he's great.
I've always loved him andanything he's in.
Mainly, I've seen him in thesetwo mood things.
What a wild ass show that was.
Yeah, holy, did you ever watchthe the conan?

(27:36):
Yes, we had the lever yeah,yeah and he does the hayley joe
osmond one.
He's like don't worry guys.
Walker told me I have AIDS.
It's like what the fuck?
What was that show talkingabout?

Speaker 2 (27:50):
And then Walker kicks it out of him.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
It's crazy.
You know, I watched so much ofit as a kid and I just I don't
remember any of the silliness, Ijust remember so much.
I remember the roundhouses,that's all I remember.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh God, when he jumps he's holding two grenades and
he jumps.
Or maybe that was a differentChuck Norris movie, I don't know
.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
He like dives over something, holding a grenade in
each hand, and then there's anexplosion.
And he just like walks away,Walks away.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Explosions don't hurt me Scorpions.
These explosions don't hurt meScorpions.
So Theo hops over the desk andbegins using a computer to shut
off all the elevators in thebuilding except one, as well as
sealing all the exits to thegarage and the building.
Carl uses a flash grenade andhis silent pistol to take out
the other security guard.
Looks like an Oreo.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
An.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Oreo.
I was like whenever he throwsthe flash grenade I was like
what is that?
Looks like a macaroon in thegarage.
Hans Gruber and the rest of theteam of terrorists exit the
back of the courier truck.
It's a great shot when it'sjust kind of kind of zooming in
on them as they're all comingout and you see, like all these
Scandinavian looking peoplethey're Germanic I guess, but

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and then like they kind ofseparate a little bit and Hans
Gruber kind of comes to theforefront.
I'm like let's fucking go, baby.
Hans seals the front door whileEddie puts on the guard's
jacket and mans the desk.
I love Eddie, like he's got hiscountry.
He's got like his country accentwhenever he talks to Al.

(29:23):
I don't know.
There's something about thatguy Eddie who becomes the
security guy.
Hell yeah, love this guy.
No wonder you put him up front.
He's so charming.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
He's the face yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
So then we cut to.
Tony makes his way to thetelephone junction boxes and
this is Carl's brother andbegins patching into the system
and begins patching in to thesystem.
He barely finishes patching inbefore his brother, carl, uses a
chainsaw to cut through all thephone cords to prevent any
calls from leaving the building.
It's like Carl, wait fivefucking seconds, dude, what are
we doing?
He's like no, don't do it.

(29:59):
Nine, nine, nine.
It's like why are you sogung-ho about cutting these
right now?
You know.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
I just it's like why are you so gung-ho?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
about cutting these right now.
You know, I just got one job.
Got one job, get it over.
My beautiful hair doesn't allowme to think and make rational
decisions.
Meanwhile, a barefoot john ismaking fists with his toes and
it's surprised it's working.
To curious jet lag.
He calls argyle, but it's cutoff because of carl.
Carl hans and some of hishenchmen arrive via elevator to
the christmas party and beginfiring at the ceiling to capture

(30:29):
everyone's attention.
I love when they come out,though they're all like sneaky
and they're just in the back ofthe party and hans is like let's
go he loves shooting theceiling.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, he does, shoots it like six or seven times.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
The boy loves being dramatic and I love him for it.
John hears the gunshots and isable to sneak out of the office
into the stairwell with hispolice issue gun.
He nearly enters the 35th floorbut notices other henchmen
wheeling equipment through thehallway.
Can you up to the 32nd floor,which is under construction,
where he tries to gather histhoughts and think of a way to

(31:01):
alert authorities?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Can you bring guns on planes in the 80s?
If you're a cop, I guess.
Yeah, I think you could havedone anything on the plane in
the 80s it was definitelysmoking on the plane you could
have definitely done.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
You could do anything on the plane until 9-11
happened, Sitting next to UmaThurman with her katana.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
They're like oh, you got one too.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
That was first class.
First class has the katanas?
Oh yeah, in the foyer, hansinforms Nakatomi Corporation
employees that he's going toteach the company a lesson on
their real use of power, becausetheir company has a legacy of
greed.
Oh, what you mean?
A corporation in America?

Speaker 2 (31:42):
has like a legacy of greed.
Yeah, this was the only one.
It's like what and what do theydo?
Because you buy and selling, Idon't know, but like when they
break into the safe, there'slike all this samurai.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Samurai.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I don't know, it's just the Japanese.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
It's like just full of art and stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
It's just like Hans and them are German.
They're just mad Like God.
Dang it Japan.
We're supposed to make it bigover here, not you guys.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Well, yeah, that's rough.
We're never going to let themforget Pearl Harbor, never
forget.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
So he calls out Joe to talk to Kagi, but Holly tells
Joe to stand back.
He steps forward after Hanslists several detailed facts
about his life.
Hans greets him and the twotake the elevator to floor 34.
Interesting fact so thisbuilding was it's a Fox Studios

(32:39):
building.
All the floors that they usedwere floors that were not being
used by, like, lawyers andbusinessmen at that point, and
it was floor 2 and then all like30 and up.
So that's how.
That's why all the floors areall under construction.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, like they haven't moved in cause they're
actually doing construction atthe place.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Oh nice, that's fun, that's cool.
So in the boardroom Theo askedTakagi for the CEO daily key
code and encryption number.
Takagi insists that he doesn'thave them and even if he did,
they couldn't steal anyinformation because they'll just
change all the information, soit doesn't matter, or something
like that.
And then Han corrects him thatthey aren't after information,

(33:17):
but the 640 million in bearerbonds in the company's vault
Classic Always about bearerbonds.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, I guess we don't really do a lot with bonds
these days.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, and you know what it's like they're robbing a
train.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Like this is 1850.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
I actually do not like when they use bonds instead
of money.
It just well, you know, becausewhen they get it you just like
see it.
It's like, oh, that's a lot ofsheets of paper, yeah, sheets of
paper, yeah, that's what Ithought it was.
I was like is that just likemoney before it got cut up into

(33:51):
money?
I don't understand what bondsare.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
I'm assuming they're special, like notes for banks
and then you give them to themand they give you money.
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess it's like why not thisspecial thing that anybody can
have can turn them in for money?

Speaker 1 (33:58):
maybe whenever, like the money, the, you know, like
after a thousand dollars, you'relike, all right, we can't think
of another dollar bill.
We have to start making hugepieces of paper to really
signify how special this moneyis.
But so john mclean enters fromthe sterile and overhears the
interrogation of takaki.

(34:18):
I can't, it's like if I go likefive minutes without saying it,
I cannot remember mr t, thatwon't get confused.
Mr T.
Hans gives Mr T the count ofthree to give him the codes, but
he refuses.
Just like Mr T would.
Hans shoots him in the head,orders Tony dispose of the body
and Theo to begin hacking intothe vault.

(34:40):
John makes a noise as heescapes from the room but the
terrorists don't find him anddismiss the noise.
Classic like hero stuff Like oh, there was a noise, eh, who
cares?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, that's totally not.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
It's like who else is in there?

Speaker 2 (34:53):
A rat, so right with a badge.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, this rat's going to take down all the
terrorists.
Say cheese motherfucker.
God damn it.
Detective rat, you solved crime.
I'd watch that Pixar movie.
Yeah, I'd watch that Pixarmovie Ratatouille.
It's like the great mousedetective, but gritty, it's
Ratatouille, but this time he'sa detective.
You just have a Cop with agiant police hat on Cause.

(35:21):
There's a rat underneath itControlling him.
Nobody can know.
It's Sergeant Ratatouille, dangit.
You've killed 14 innocentpeople this week.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
He's got like he's tugging on the hair that pulls
the gun.
Sergeant Ratatouille, dang it,you've killed 14 innocent people
this week.
He's got like he's tugging onthe hair that pulls the gun all
the time and he's like yeah butI solved five crimes, those 14
deaths were worth it.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
It's like dang it.
Sergeant Ratatouille, you'rethe best detective we've ever
seen.
Damn good movie gonna make itso.
In the garage, argyle is stilllistening to loud music in the
limo and talking to a girl onthe phone, having no idea what's
going on around him.
Henrik, marco and Yuli work ina room full of the building's

(36:04):
heating and cooling machinery.
They wire the room with whatappears to be explosives.
They have a bunch.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, they all say C4 on them, so it's pretty yeah
easy guess did you ever see c4in?
Yeah, I got to use some yeah, alittle bit does it say c4 on uh
well, when they gave it to usit was just kind of it was
already opened out of thepackage yeah, it's like a putty
put a little it's wild cap inthere whenever.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Whenever I see C4, I'm like I don't get it.
I don't understand how ithappens, but it's cool.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's cool.
It is cool.
Yeah, did you make shapes outof it?

Speaker 1 (36:37):
I don't understand how silly putty explodes, but
I'm cool with it.
So Theo and Hans walk to thevault.
While Theo explains the vault'sseven layers of security, he
stresses that he can completethe first six, but the seventh
lock a electromagnetic systemcannot be cut locally.
Hans guarantees he has a plan.
So what do you think about thevault thing?

(36:58):
Pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, it's kind of cool.
I mean he's just drilling.
He's talking about hacking intoit and bypassing the security.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
It really is just a drill, he's got to bypass the
first layer, which I guess is aspecial door they can't cut
through.
So once that gets undone orthere's like a special, I don't
fucking know mumbo jumbo, actionmovie.
Mumbo jumbo, you know there's avault we gotta drill at some
point.
It's gotta be complicated.
If you don't drill through avault, is it an action movie?

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I don't think so.
Is it a robbing movie?

Speaker 1 (37:31):
so Eddie informs Hans of oh wait, uh.
So john like goes back to floor32.
He's like cursing himself.
He's like god, dang, I shouldhave done something, but then,
well, he, we'd both be dead then.
I love when he talks to himself.
It's my favorite part, yeah.
But he suddenly comes up with aplan to pull a fire alarm.
Nice, eddie informs Hans of thealarm and Hans orders him to

(37:53):
call 911 to disable the alarmand turn off the system.
John celebrates the approachingfire trucks but gets angry when
they turn off their sirens andturn around.
I love when he's lookingoutside and he's getting so
excited.
He's like stiffening his armsand legs and he's like walking
real funny and I was like hellyeah, but don't, don't they

(38:16):
still?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
if a fire alarm, even if it's a mistake, they still
show up and like walk throughthe building.
I think that's like the law,like mandatory yeah maybe that
hadn't not in the 80s, baby, notin the 80s.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
they're like oh, if there is a fire, that's great,
everybody can light theircigarettes.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
They fight fire with actual fire.
Yeah, it's like everythingworse, damn it.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
We need our dragon.
He's got to burn out all thisfire.
So Tony enters the room andJohn hides.
He searches for John in thelabyrinth of the construction.
They fight, crashing throughdrywall and aluminum beans, and
stumble down a stairwell whereTony dies in the fall.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Crashing through drywall is very satisfying, yeah
.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I, whenever we're tearing down our old trailer to
put in our better trailer, likethey, my dad's friends were like
just running through thedrywall yeah, it's so fun.
He's like you just got to havesome fun with it and I was like,
okay, I think you're on drugs,but that's okay, yeah.
So in the vault, theo bypassesthe first level of security and
begins using a drill to proceedthe heist.

(39:23):
And then John takes Tony'sradio lighter and his machine
gun.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
His cigarettes too.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, his cigarettes's like this is bad
for you, tony.
He then dresses up Tony's bodyon a chair in the elevator and
sends it down to the Christmasparty.
Hans frightens the party bytelling them that Mr Takagi has
been killed.
Now I don't have to say thatanymore.
He, um, he says he won't bejoining you for the rest of his

(39:52):
life.
Um, but then he is interruptedby the arrival of tony's body.
He's angered by the message ontony's sweatshirt now I have a
machine gun.
Oh so good, perfect linedelivery.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I love that um con air did this with the whole
writing on the shirt thing ohyeah.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
The tank top, yeah, oh man so good, right on
people's tank top, right onpeople's dead bodies.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Throw them out of a plane.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
When I'm in my casket , I hope someone's written on my
dead body.
Yeah, now you don't have todeal with me anymore.
Oh, oh, and you've got one ofthose, those laughy things from
the Joker.
Yeah, so riding on top of theelevator, I want like a string
you can pull.
Yeah, just like out of my bag.

(40:41):
Yeah, it's like.
Damn, jesse was really cool.
Now that I'm thinking about it,who would have thought of doing
this?
So, on top of the elevator,john listens to the terrorists
and take notes on his arm.
He rides the elevator, johnlistens to the terrorists and
take notes on his arm.
He rides the elevator to thetop of the floor and sneaks out
to the roof.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Meanwhile, hans tells Carl, was that the one where he
was riding on top of theelevator?

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, that was a cool last shot and he was listening
and then it started going up andhe's like I'm going to die.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
So, like a mission impossible, have they have the
claws at the top of the elevator?
Yeah, claws at the top of theelevator.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Just in case, I guess a raccoon wants to ride on top
of it.
It's kind of wild.
I was like, yeah, elevatorshave bumpers to make sure it
doesn't hit the top of the roof.
All I know is usually elevatorswill not crush you from movies,
except for Mission Impossible.
Or if you're on the bottom ofit and getting crushed, yeah,
that would suck.
Meanwhile, hans tells Carlabout Tony.

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Carl gets even blonder and getsenraged.
He becomes super saiyan at thatpoint.
Now I'm super blonde, I musthave my vengeance.
Hans tells him that he'll getit, though, but after Henrik and
Theo finish their jobs.
So then McClane arrives at theroof and uses the CV radio to

(41:52):
call out on Frequency 9, but ischided by the 911 officer Yells
at her to send help.
No fucking shit, lady.
Does it sound like I'm orderinga pizza?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
It's so good.
Surprised he didn't say pieyeah, pizza pie.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I don't know if you know, lady, I'm from New York
over here, Gonna go toEinstein's bagels after this.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Those are some damn good bagels.
We got rats over here.
I don't know shit about bagels,but they had an Einstein on
them.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I had a bagel this morning.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
It was from Walmart.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Nice and it was mediocre.
You call that a bagel.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, oh man, put some of that whipped cream
cheese on it.
But anyways, carl and othersbegin shooting at him, prompting
him to evade.
The operator decides to send asole officer to investigate Al
Powell.
What a name, al Powell.
He receives the call whilebuying Twinkies for his pregnant
wife, and the guy behind thecounter does not believe him.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I mean I bought some weird shit for my wife when
she's pregnant, but Twinkies 500different, like there's always
fried pickles.
Really I always had to go getsome.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
All right, then I must be pregnant, because I'm
always out for some friedpickles.
Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Sonic has fried pickles now.
Maybe I'll stop by when I go toWalmart.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
So on the roof, john evades the gunfire and makes his
way into a dead-end closet witha large ventilation fan.
He blocks the fan with his gun,climbs through and evades the
terrorists back to floor 35.
Still pursued he.
What do you think about the fanstuff?
I love movies where there's afan and they have to stop it and
they up and get it yeah, thefan is like it's so powerful it

(43:30):
can like maim you yeah, eventhough this one's going so slow,
I'm like I think he'll justkind of like go or he'll just
hit you and stop.
Yeah, like um, but he's stillbeing pursued.
He is cornered in the elevatorshaft and must climb down the
ventilation shaft to floor 34you don't think they ever heard
him crawling around up there?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
no, they eventually did.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Like a rat.
Yeah, Dang LA's got big rats.
Thought that was just New York.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Am I right, John?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
McClane hey, Walk in here.
I backed it over here.
He uses this machine gun andit's strapped to climb down the
ventilation shaft, but the strapslips free from the gun and he
falls a couple of floors.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Damn.
I'm surprised he didn't shootthe air to make himself slow
down.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Or just throw a C4 below him and he fires him back
up.
He manages to catch himself ona ledge and climb into a
horizontal vent.
He uses a ladder to see in thevent.
Come out to the coast We'll gettogether.
Have a few laughs Now I knowwhat a TV dinner feels.
Ladder to see in the vent, comeout to the ghost we'll get
together.
Have a few laughs.
Now I know what a tv dinnerfeels like.
But carl sees the light andfollows him to floor 31.

(44:42):
Carl shoots at the ducks andbegins pressing them, checking
for body weight, but it's calledaway before he finds john
because carl has a shortattention span.
We found out.
Can't get through a door eventhough he heard a sound.
Eh, it's fine.
Hey, I know he's definitely inthese vents.
Eh, I gotta go.
Mcclane exits the shaft andwatches as Al enters the

(45:03):
building and is fooled by Eddiedisguised as a security guard
when Al's driving around.
Who is this fucking StevieWonder driving this car?
Because he's blondedie.
Um, lets him in.
You know he's watching the usc,or yeah?

Speaker 2 (45:20):
usc versus notre dame game.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
He's got 50 on the game.
But hey, eddie, you know my boy, eddie, he's just a regular old
pal.
John attempts to break thewindow with a chair but is
spotted from the roof by James.
He radios Marco and Henrik andthey run to stop him.
Marco appears to surrender butJohn shoots Henrik when he runs
in.
Marco then traps John under theconference table by standing on

(45:43):
top of it and shooting towardsthe ground.
It's like you're at the end ofthe rope.
You should have shot me insteadof letting me surrender.
Then he shoots him at the endof the table, shoots his legs,
all the hell.
Yes, hey, thanks for the advice.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Hell yeah, the leg shots in this movie are so
chunky.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I was like damn he like his, these leg shots really
killed him.
Yeah, man.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
It's just like meat honks of meat coming off of him.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Meaty legs and then like he's getting pissed at al's
leaving, and then he justthrows marco's body onto his car
to alert him, and then theterrorists open fire and he's
just backing out like that's afucking help uh, it's great.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
What do you think about al?
Yeah, he's fine.
I guess the actor's great.
The actor crushes yeah, theactor does.
But like the um, the backstory,well, they're just the whole
movie.
They're just the whole movie.
They're having thisconversation with each other
over the radio and it's superweird sometimes.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
They're falling in love.
I know Two cops.
You know it's like Romeo andJuliet.
There's no way it should work.
You have an.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
LA cop.
Star-crossed lovers.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Nobody would accept an LA cop and a New York cop
getting together.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Maybe that's why he never moved.
He knew it couldn't be,couldn't be.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
It's like I'll just fall in love with an LA cop.
I know I will.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
No, my last boyfriend , Al, moved there.
I can't stay there.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
All my exes moved to California, the, but we will
bring up this gay relationshipat the end of the movie where it
definitely feels like they'rein love.
So, yeah, al ends up making itOK, though out of the car and
backups going to come soon.
In a news equipment room,journalist Richard Thornburg

(47:24):
overhears the call for help on apolice scanner.
He argues with his newsproducer and assaults a news
host seconds before he goes onair and is given a truck to
investigate the story.
Dude, that news host was pissed.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
They make a fool out of him too later on when he's
talking to the book guy.
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
But man, he's staring daggers in that guy.
He sucks.
He just said one statement.
He's looking like he's ready toget up and stab him.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, it's like the anchorman he just rules
everything, but he's just anasshole.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, he's just an asshole.
So as police arrive at NakatomiPlaza, john harasses Hans over
the radio.
Hans insults him for watchingtoo many cowboy shows on TV, but
John takes it as a compliment,insisting the likes Roy Rogers.
He then signs off by sayingYippee-ki-yay, motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Motherfucker.
Hell yeah, best line yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Wasn't the director really into Westerns?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Not from what I know, because there's a lot of
Western shit In this movie.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah, I mean, I guess this is like the outside of
America People just see us asall cowboys, I guess.
Oh yes, that's why everybodythinks we're cowboys yeah and I
will always say that I am yeah,that's why I constantly, that's
why I'm, that's why I'm wearingmy 20 gallon cowboy hat, right?

Speaker 2 (48:41):
now, yeah, I gotta bring up my belt buckle yeah,
fuck, yeah, dude, it's likewe're all dressed.
There's a cow in our house aspart of my uniform in the army,
because we were scouts and thatwas like a special thing.
Hell yeah, we got to wear.
We were the only people allowedto wear Stetsons and Spurs.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, do you and your partner often go up to the
mountains?

Speaker 2 (48:58):
No, yeah, because if you get too cold, you got to
sleep in the same sleeping bag,maybe he's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
I'm sorry if I'm using it as a joke.
I I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I've just seen the end, when he gets hit in the
head with the pot and he diesRight.
That's the best part.
It's the saddest.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
The movie ends so sad , it hurts your heart, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Makes you want to die .

Speaker 1 (49:26):
So Han gets a status report from his men and learns
that Theo is making goodprogress on the vault but that
Heinrich's bag of detonators hasbeen taken by John.
He orders Fritz to retrieve thedetonators.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Whole bag of detonators.
Yeah, just a bunch ofdetonators.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Al radios John, who briefly explains what is
happening.
Deputy Police Chief Dwayne TRobinson arrives, insults Al and
takes command.
I love the deputy chief.
Like I know he's like theasshole of the movie and that's
kind of what he plays, but he'skind of an idiot he's really
good he, he does a really goodjob at like showing.
Whenever he like screws up andlike he does a really good job

(50:00):
at showing it on his face, he'slike fuck, I should have
listened to these guys.
I don't know.
I just think if you're gonna belike a douchebag, you should
like if you're a good actor atbeing a douchebag, you have to
be really good at having it alllike right back in your face.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Recognizing your mistakes.
Yeah because most of them don't, and he does a really good job
about it.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Makes them makes them feel human, makes them likable.
This side character gets to behuman for a second.
Hans, who has chosen Holly'soffice as a command post, is
approached by Holly, who makestwo simple demands A couch forny
and that the terrorists let thehostages use the bathroom.
And I love that hans is, eventhough he plans on killing all
these people yes, is nice enoughto do this.

(50:40):
Oh, because he knows he needsto make everybody calm plus he
doesn't want to there to be likepoop everywhere.
Yeah, you know, man everybodywas drinking champagne and well
they had to pee.
You know they had to go andthey got.
There's been so much gunshotthey probably already peed
themselves.
Just like directs them to thefountain.
Yeah, um and she makes sure,whenever he asked her name, that

(51:03):
she used Gennaro so that shecan't be linked to John use my
generic last name, yeah soArgyle turns on the TV in the
limo and notices that thebuilding he is in is under siege
how does that work?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
how does the limo have television?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
in 1988 did they have that technology when you're
rich.
Well, he works for this companythat has a computer that
controls the whole building, soI guess it's just you know
they're fancy people.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
that might have been a bad call too.
Yeah, making one button controleverything.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Hey, well, now that's how all our cars are controlled
.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Nice, yeah, can't wait till that goes out, wonky.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yep.
He looks for an exit from thegarage but finds himself trapped
.
But turns on his CV radio tooverhear John and Al's
conversation.
I radio to overhear John andAl's conversation.
I love it.
There's just like a five minutescene of him just driving
around the garage and he ends upparking like, alright, I'm here
.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
He's got the teddy bear up there on the dash.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
So the police set up spotlights and send a four man
SWAT team to enter the building.
They are Rivers Rodriguez andtwo unidentified SWATs.
No, they're dead.
They get shot up.
John is recommended by Al tosit tight, but he knows the
terrorists have extremely heavyartillery.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
They've got a bazooka .

Speaker 1 (52:21):
They have bazookas, and it's got to be a bazooka C4
and like a ton of weapons.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
That's the most fun explosive thing that happened in
the 80s.
It's like in Patch Adams whenyou explosive thing that
happened in the 80s.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
It's like in Patch Adams, when you got the one guy.
They're like pretending to,it's like at the beginning and
they're like pretending to shootstuff and he brings out and
there's like the one guy withthe rat a bazooka Best part of
that movie.
So Yuli and Eddie fire at theteam as they try to break in the
front door.
So the police department sendsin an RV to rescue the men.

(52:51):
That was fucking awesome yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
It's great the stairs .
Yeah, drive it into thebuilding.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
They should have watched those shit stairs.
Should have watched the DarkKnight.
That's how you build the tank,baby.
So Hans orders James andAlexander to take down the tank
with a rocket launcher.
He then orders them to hit itwith another rocket Like.
The people outside are likewhat's going on?
Why are they shooting us?
Who are these people?
That's my Jerry.

(53:21):
I'd watch that die hard.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yeah, he's almost a billionaire, Makes it, I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Seinfeld and coffee.
Like right, he has like acoffee thing.
I don't know, Something likethat.
I didn't know that.
He's not that funny.
And coffee, like right, he haslike a coffee thing, I don't
know something like that.
I don't know that, um, butthat's funny.
Well, that's.
I mean seinfeld was.
Yeah, seinfeld was.
He's funny in like his talkshows.
He just doesn't really doanything.
Yeah, yeah, he has a podcast Ihaven't listened to.
He also just seems like kind oflike he might be an asshole
yeah, I'm sure he's rich.

(53:46):
Yeah, rich asshole yeah there'sa point where it's like you've
just earned to be an assholeyeah, you've earned it.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
You can just do it.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Now you get a little badge, yeah so they hit the rv
with another rocket.
This upsets john enough tothrow some c4 down the elevator
shaft, blowing up the entiresecond floor and killing james
and alexander geronimo'smotherfuckers hell yeah.
So the police in thornburg lookon in amazement.
Deputy Robinson takes the radiofrom Al, but John insults him

(54:16):
and informs him that he willonly speak with Al Because he's
like you could have killedanybody and it's like I saved
you guys' life, dude.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
What are y'all talking about?
They suck at being cops.
I guess when they really killEllis they're like why'd you do
that?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Yeah, that's right.
You know why?
Because LA cops got nothing onthese New York cops Am I right,
baby, let's go.
Hey, j-e-t-s, Jets, jets, jets,fuck.
I messed it up, j-e-t-s.
Or you know.
Giets, jets, fuck, I messed itup, j-e-t-s, or you know.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Giants, whatever.
Whatever they play in NewJersey, not even New York teams,
let's go Bills.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
So back in the foyer, ellis is getting antsy so he
snorts more cocaine and gets upto talk to Hans.
He tells Hans that he can getJohn to cooperate.
He gives Hans John's name andoccupation and uses Hans radio
to talk to John.
I love Ellis.
He's so great at what he'sdoing.
I guess I don't know what he'sdoing, but he's doing.

(55:20):
I know.
John McTiernan, the director,was like can you calm down?
He's like no, my dude's on coke.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Yeah, I just did all this coke.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
I did it for real, yeah, but I just I just did all
this coke.
I did it for real, yeah, but Ijust I love his like cockiness
and swagger Sure, and it's justlike you just love that.
You know he's going to die.
I was so confused on why HansGruber listened to this man.
He seems to just be having funwith him.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, I guess With everything.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
He's like oh, let's see how this plays out.
Yeah, he's just hoping thatjohn slips up with some sort of
information that he can useagainst him.
I think that's what all this ishe's like.
He just wants those detonatorsand if this guy can bring him
john, then let's try it.
You know, and you know he he'snot from america.
He's probably this is americansall weird and cocky.

(56:05):
Yeah, cowboy, I just love that.
They give us a great characterwe want to see die.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Yeah, man.
It's so great.
So, he's so sure of himself.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, and now that Thornburg knows who John McCain
is and where he worked, he sendsan assistant to look up
McCain's information, whileEllis tries to convince John to
give over the detonators.
Ellis pretends that he isJohn's good friend, but he
doesn't recognize that Hansplans to kill him if John
doesn't operate.
It's like, hey, ellis, you'reover your head here.

(56:36):
Usually deal with people thatdon't have guns.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, I was interested to think about how
the reporter got all theinformation.
Yeah, I don't have the Internet, I'm sure he just made some
calls.
Yeah, like hey, can you give meall the personal information
and their home address?
Sure Gore, sure, it is goofy.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
So John struggles to barter with Hans to spare Ellis.
But Ellis sticks to pretending.
John refuses to respond toEllis's friendly request to give
back the detonators.
So Hans fatally shoots Ellis.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yeah, got him, yep, got him.
And then he shoots, goes in.
He's like I'm gonna kill moreif you don't give him to me.
And that's when he runs out anddoes the weird like shoot the
ceiling thing in a pose hey,y'all, I'm back, baby.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
I'm the scary man with a gun yeah, so everyone
inside and outside the buildingare shocked.
Robinson dismisses Al to gohome, but he refuses to leave
until the situation is resolved.
It's like man, just like forcehim to leave.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Yeah, you're kind of his superior.
Yeah, you can just say go away.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
I mean you can't if, like one of the guys in the
building, will only talk to him.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, you should probably keep him around.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, so Robinson believes Ellis would still be
alive if John turned himself in.
But John radios back with hisown opinion on the matter, that
he was going to kill both ofthem no matter what.
Yes, yeah, turns out the badguys in the building.
They're bad guys.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, you don't negotiate with terrorists.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
Hans finally addresses the police and begins
to list the names of fellowfreedom fighters he wants
released from prison around theworld.
He also orders a helicopter totake him, so he's a terrorist
for freedom no, it's all ruse,because I guess he's a part of
like some organization.
He's like oh, I'll use this aswhy I'm doing it is to release
other freedom fighters, orwhatever.

(58:27):
Yeah, so john and al, don't buythe story and realize that
something else is afoot.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
And special agents johnson and johnson arrive from
fbi and take over control fromdeputy chief I love that.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
They're like oh, that's how that's how p, did he
got it, did it, oh man.
But I love it's just the addedhumor of having two guys named
johnson and it's like we're notrelated.
It's like, oh, you two guysaren't really.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
They're twins.
Yeah, that was really funny,like whenever the I thought they
were going to do the thing likea men in black.
When they show up and he's likehi, I'm Officer White, I'm
Officer Black, this is OfficerWhite.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
You know that kind of shit, and the black guy's name
is why my guy's name is black.
Yeah damn, we should have wrotethis movie we could have that
would have been a great joke.
Hans inspects the explosives inthe mechanical room and is
cornered by John, but he decidesto pretend to be an escaped
hostage, and John believes it ohgod, no god, you're one of them

(59:29):
so they came.
So they wanted this was actuallysupposed to be two different
people in this situation.
It was supposed to be John andTheo the guy that's breaking
into the vault but Hans would dothis like funny California
accent on set and it madeeverybody on set kind of laugh
and they're like it's actuallyreally good.

(59:51):
And then John DeBont andMatiernan heard it and they're
like we have to make this intothe script and they replaced
Theo with Hans and this is howthis happened, but it is pretty
great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
I love this part of the movie.
Does he believe it at first?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
John, I think at first Okay, but then I think he
just kind of it's like well, youseem pretty calm and you look
not American.
So, hans, on floor 33, johngives him a handgun, which Hans
pulls on him instantly.
John tries to get him to revealhis plan, but Hans pulls the

(01:00:27):
trigger rather than spoiling it.
The gun was never loaded.
But before John can arrest orshoot Hans, the elevator arrives
with Carl, franco and Fritz.
But I love it and, like youknow, this is setting up.
It's like oh, he knows hedoesn't have shoes on, so it's
gonna set up the whole nextscene.
Man, I felt like there was morestuff I had for this part of the
movie, but I don't.

(01:00:48):
Apparently the shootout and thewell, no, just like their
conversation together, I don'tknow, it's really.
I love when you know it's likea western bad guy and the good
guy talk for a minute beforethey shoot out and he tricks
them.
Yep, Click, click.
So John manages to shoot Fritzand Franco but runs out of
bullets.
Hans, knowing John is barefoot,has Carl shoot the glass walls

(01:01:09):
of the office John is trapped in.
They use a flash grenade, butJohn has vanished by the time
the smoke has cleared.
However, he was forced to leavethe bag with the detonators.
Yeah, there's just bloodeverywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Yeah, oh, it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Just pulling his leg along with leaving a huge trail
could easily find him.
So Hans gives you leave thedetonators and Carl smashes some
decorations at the Christmasparty Cause he's mad.
It's like one of those angerrooms.
Yeah, and Holly was like onlyJohn can make someone that mad.
It's like okay are you sure?

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Yeah, he's still alive.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Yeah, john slinks into a bathroom with bloody feet
which he begins to clean andbandage that one foot dude, that
looked painful and I would justsit in that bathroom and not
move.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
I'm kind of glad he didn't have to rip his tank top
to bandage it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Because the tank top kind of makes him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, until the end where he's like I have to shred
this thing so I can confrontHans.
Right, theo informs Hans thathe has broken through the first
six levels of the vault securityand that he is ready for Hans
to disengage the final lock.
Thornburg's assistant bringsgood news to Thornburg, telling
him that she knows JohnMcClane's records and his LA

(01:02:24):
address.
As Al tries to keep an injuredJohn company over the radio, we
learn Al shot a 13-year-old kidand that's why Al is at a desk
job Such a touching moment.
I was really on Al's side and Iforgot that a cop shot a
13-year-old, which has neverhappened again in the history of
the world.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
No, it never did, and I love that the terrorists are
not listening in on this radioconversation, like you think
they'd be listening to thepolice.
No, I think they're listeningthe whole time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
It's just nothing is really important is being said
at the moment.
They're like shh oh, he's gonnasay yeah but you know this is
further along John and Al'srelationship, being brothers,
slash lovers.
So Theo and Hans realize thatthe FBI is planning on cutting
the power to the building.
Theo smiles realizing that theelectromagnetic lock will

(01:03:16):
disengage when the power is cut.
You wanted a miracle.
I give you the FBI.
That was going to be my, thatwas my other option for it.
If you can just have him saysomething kind of starting quick
and then end up justpronouncing letters, that's the
best.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah, he's like what does he say to him when he turns
to go meet him?
Like immediately he's soexcited that the FBI is there,
like Sergeant guy.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Oh, I don't remember Al Powell.
Al Powell, yeah, but SpecialAgent Johnson instructs the
power company worker to turn offthe power for a 10 block radius
around Nakatomi Tower, and thisis a written document from
Gremlins.
2.
The Burbs.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Oh really.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah, it's the same guy.
Hell, yeah, we just talkedabout him.
All movies come back To diehard.
We just keep doing movies andit's funny that for that month
we'll do a movie and it's like,hey, this has ties to, like, the
three other movies you just did.
It's like fuck.
So the FBI celebrates yippee,robinson worries that the mayor
will be upset about the cutpower, al complains about the

(01:04:24):
FBI's predictable behavior andHans and Theo celebrate as the
vault opens yeah, that was a funscene, so they plan on them
cutting the power to thebuilding.
Yeah, okay, it was all, becausethey are going directly by the
book, the terrorist handbook, sothey know everything that
they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Did you see like the when Theo's trying to break into
the safe and you see like onthe computer screen it's got the
lock.
It kind of looks like the lockgame from Skyrim oh yeah, do the
pins.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, or not?
Skyrim.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
It was the one before that, but anyway, oblivion.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Yeah, yeah.
So John asked Al to tell hiswife goodbye, should anything
happen to him.
But Al says God damn it, you'regoing to make it out because I
got to put a smooch on yourbrother.
So Thornburg arrives at Holly'shouse and threatens Paulina to
let him talk to the childrenbecause he says you're going to

(01:05:19):
get deported if you don't.
That sucks, yeah.
And then now you got Johnwaddling around.
He's back to the machinery roomand finds a large amount of C4
wire to blow up the roof.
He radios out but is caught byCarl.
Yeah, it's a double crossing.
Yeah, carl takes John's radioand gun, but John throws a punch
and the two begin to fist fight, agreeing.

(01:05:40):
Takes John's radio and gun, butJohn throws a punch and the two
begin to fist fight, agreeingthat it's personal for both of
them.
Now Hans watches a small TV andrecognizes the children
Thornberger's interviewing.
He then picks up the face downfamily photo of the McClain's
and approaches Holly.
He fires the gun into the air,orders all the hostages to the
roof and takes Holly with him tothe vault.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Yeah, do you ever see him, hans, like actually kill
anyone?

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
No, he attempts.
No, yeah, he does, he kills.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Ellis, but he's off screen.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Takagi, takagi, takagi.
Okay, I can't say his fuckingname, mr T.
Yeah, we see him.
He pulls the trigger on him.
Okay, so she's in the vault.
He's like I'm a really fuckinggood crook, though.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I think that's some cool shit in there, man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Yeah, it's okay, lady , I just got $640 million.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
So how about?

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
you shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
It's like the samurai shit.
There's like a completedRubik's Cube.
Yeah, all the rare things.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
It's like, hans, did you do this With my my eyes
closed or no?
Carl should say that I did itmore of a Carl voice.
So Carl holds the upper hand ofthe fight, but John manages to
get in some good hits.
Carl is able to get his handson a gun, fires and grazes
John's shoulder as he escapesthrough a doorway.
Carl follows, but John gets theupper hand, knocking the gun

(01:06:57):
free.
The two continue to wrestle andthrow punches up the stairs to
John.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Wrap some chains around Carl's neck, pushing him
over the railing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
I love when they're fighting up the stairs, though
You're like they're fighting you.
Motherfucker, I'm going to killyou, I'm going to fucking cook
you and I'm going to fucking eatyou.
Yes, that had to be like.
That had to be ad-libbed man.
It's like who says it, who justwrites that I'm gonna cook you,
I'm gonna fucking eat you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
I just need him to say something mean.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, so he then pulls the other end of the chain
along a track, causing Carl'shanging body to zip across the
room and slam into the wall.
Carl hangs from the chain.
It's fucking metal.
Yeah, it was so cool.
I'm like I forgot that they didthat.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
I got it too.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
There's something so haunting about someone hanging.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Yeah, she's getting wrapped up in a.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Yeah it seems like a terrible way to die.
Yeah, just choking.
Turns out being hung doesn'tseem pleasant.
Now in the bedroom, what's?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
another story baby.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
Okay, so he then pulls the other.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
No, I don't want to see your harness, Jesse.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Oh dang, even with my best 20 gallon hat.
So two army helicoptersapproach Nakatomi Plaza, special
Agent Johnson and Agent Johnsonright in one of them,
commenting that they plan onambushing the terrorists and
that they would be happy with a25% hostage loss.
Whoa, yeah man, it's a lot.
You see, they're just like LApolice enforcement.

(01:08:28):
This movie doesn't like them.
It's like New York cops or nocops.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
I feel like the others definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
I mean it's might as well just be firefighters versus
cops at this point, that'd befun.
So big hoses yeah, he does usea fire hose.
Well, coming up here, yuli andEddie usher all the hostages to
the roof and John shoots Yuli ashe chases the hostages
searching for Holly.
Jeannie tells John that Hollyis with Hans trying to warn the
helicopter not to land and toget the hostages away from the

(01:08:58):
explosives.
John begins firing Yuli'smachine gun in the air.
The hostages run back down intothe building but the FBI
chopper begins firing on JohnClassic.
I mean he gets mad at him, butit's like hey, dude, I don't
know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Like you seem like a terrorist.
They're just shooting atanything that's moving, Even the
worst hostages.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
He's firing a gun in the air, you know.
At that point he seems likehe's going loco.
So it's like this guy justmight shoot all the hostages.
But he manages to make it to aslightly hidden edge and uses a
fire hose to repel down thebuilding as he jumped.
Eddie informs Hans that thehostage have returned to the
30th floor in a panic, so Hanspushes the trigger for the

(01:09:36):
explosives.
Explosives, huge, freakingexplosion hell yeah, it's great.
You got him tied up in the thinghe jumps up over and it like
looks great, so awesome, amazing.
And of course that was uh, thatwas a model, so yeah, looked
amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
The whole building was the model well.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
So like the jump they , they recreated the building in
like a parking lot or whateverand did his jump with the
explosion Nice.
But then the rest of it is justa model.
That's cool, I love models.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I love making films like that.
I used to blow up my brother'smodels his model cars.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yeah, with like fireworks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
I did, and hills.
Those fucking assholes.
Yeah, so the explosion engulfsthe fbi helicopter, killing both
johnson and johnson andeveryone on board.
The fire hose reel snaps fromthe wall and follows john off
the roof.
I love that, I love.
When he gets on there he's likeuh-oh, but he um see, but yeah.

(01:10:36):
So he goes into the window andthen the weight of the reel
starts to pull him down in thewindow.
He manages to untie the hose intime.
The helicopter falls andexplodes yeah, the 30th and
surrounding floors, setting thefoyer on fire.
The elevator is affected by theblast and blows out the wall.
On the 30th floor, john followshis wife screams to the vault

(01:10:57):
where Hans is in a hurry tofinish loading all the bear
bonds.
Argyle follows his wife'sscreams to the vault where Hans
is in a hurry to finish loadingall the bear bonds.
Along the way, he notices amail cart with tape and other
supplies and discovers he onlyhas two bullets left.
Next time I lose my wife, I'mgoing to ask her to just scream,
yeah, just start screaming,I'll follow the screams, honey.
So in the garage, argyle noticesTheo unloading an ambulance

(01:11:19):
from the back of a courier truck.
He rams the ambulance with hislimo, then rushes to the car and
punches out Theo.
He actually, I guess, hurt hishand in that.
Oh shit, the actor did, yeah,punching him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
You think he had health coverage?
I hope so.
Did actors have health coverage?

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Yeah, I'm sure they did, If they're in the guild.
So as Kristoff runs a stack ofbonds down the hallway, john
knocks him out.
He slowly walks down thehallway towards Hans.
This is where he's like alllike kind of like limping along,
it looks hell rad, leaving likebloody footprints.
He lost his shirt at this point,yeah, letting the boys out.

(01:11:54):
It's like he's so bloody, dirtyand stinky looking, so many
guns Every girl's swooning, yeah.
So he slowly walks down thehallway towards Hans, eddie and
Holly.
Hans holds a gun to Holly'shead and orders John to drop his
weapon.
Eddie picks up another machinegun, but Hans instructs him not
to shoot.
Hans mocks John for being acowboy and points his gun

(01:12:17):
towards him.
John holds his hands behind hishead and starts laughing.
It's like fucking, uh, austinpowers for a second here,
because everybody, ha ha ha,everybody's just laughing.
It's like what are we doing?
here, at the table with dr evil.
Yeah, that's I mean.
That's what I mean.
Is it not like exactly what?

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
it is Group laugh.
That's what's said in thescript.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Yeah, because everybody knows the situation is
futile.
At that moment.
John grabs his handgun, whichis taped to his back, fires one
shot at Eddie, killing him, andanother at Hans, hitting him in
the shoulder.
Hans falls out the window butmanaged to hold on to Holly's
new Rolex.
It comes into play the plotpoints here.
I on to Holly's new Rolex.
It comes into play the plotpoints here.
I'd be so pissed.
Just got that watch, I knowright.

(01:13:04):
Han slowly aims his gun atHolly, but John manages to
unclasp the watch, sending Han'splummeting to the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
So that clasp was the only thing holding him on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
That's a strong ass clasp dude.
He's kind of like I guess hishand was gripping onto the watch
.
What a great shot.
What a quality watch.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Right, rolex, baby, they're the best we should come
out with like a podcast rolex,oh yeah, you just talk about
watches.
Yeah, time pieces, um, oh, itsucks so bad, yeah so man, the
fall for hans falling from theroof.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
It's a beautiful shot , man.
Yeah, it was fun.
That doesn't make yourcinematic dick hard, I don't
know Will.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
That's the one that's like right under the other one,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
That should be a.
That should be a first T-shirt.
This doesn't make yourcinematic dick hard, I don't
know, will.
So in the rubble outside, johnis reunited with his, is hugging
his wife.
Everybody's around him.
They're all like, oh, there'spaper flying everywhere.
It looks amazing.
And then, after he kisses hiswife a little bit, john meets

(01:14:09):
his true love, al dude seriouslyhe was so more, so much more
excited to meet al than savinghis wife.
It's insane.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yeah, I think at at that age, making a friend is
more rare.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Literally, she made me stop hanging out with all my
friends.
Now I have one I can be friendswith again.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
They start running upstairs together.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Yeah, they hug.
They go into their room withbunk beds, so much room for
activities.
But they both hug and thankeach other.
Robinson approaches and chewsout McClain for the damage of
the building.
It's like dude, I didn't dohalf of it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
And like they're not going to have to pay for it, are
they?
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
It's going to be insurance.
Who cares?
Yeah, it's covered.
So a not-quite-dead Carl arisesto scream and aims his gun at
John and Holly.
I guess his neck was superstrong.
He didn't die.
Everyone falls to the ground,but Al who fires his sidearm
killing Carl and it's like hey,you can kill someone other than

(01:15:10):
a 13-year-old.
I thought these were onlykilling 13-year-olds.
I didn't know they could killadults.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
He did kill the 13-year-old that was behind John
.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Yeah, just bad luck.
She's like dang.
Why did you shoot so low the?

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
kid shot right into that building full of kids.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Yeah, and then, after this, argyle rams his limo
through the garage garage's gateand John and Holly walk towards
his limo.
On the way they are stopped byThornburg for an interview.
Holly punches the shit out ofhim in the face and the couple
continues the limo kissing asAriel drives away from a damaged
and burning Akatami blossom.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
Why did he have to drive through the door?

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Just to excite, because I guess it was still
closed and he's like you knowwhat I'm done?
Oh yeah, too many explosions hecould have just done that at
the beginning, but he didn'twant to, and now that it's
already wrecked, he probably gotfired after his first day.
Yeah right, I don't know, hekind of saved him, saved the
escape plan.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Imagine what he told his boss.
Like you don't understand,there are terrorists.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
What you didn't know is Theo had some of those bear
bonds and he took some and putit in his limo.
Nice, argyle, you're raisingsome, you're getting your Fuck.
You're raising some, you're getyour fuck yeah, I don't know, I
don't know what I'm saying.
He's set man, yeah, but that'sDie Hard baby.
Merry Christmas, ho, ho, ho.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I can't do it.
I can't do a.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Alan Rickman impression.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
I just can't do it, it's easier to do Harry Potter.
It's easier to do in snakeblinds, but but I love Alan
Rickman.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Rip man.
Oh yeah, he died the day thatBruce Willis dies.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
It's just like this movie's gonna be hard to watch
yeah, but like he's alreadypretty much dead, he's gonna be
so sad.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
He's on his way out yeah, he's got like dementia or
something.
Yeah, it sucks, it sucks.
Well, now that we bummedourselves out, let's do our
first a lot.
Yeah, maybe that's why that'sprobably it, or his head got too
big for his britches.
So our first category is thegood, the bad, the ugly, the
fine.
It's where we talk about thegood of the film, something we
like, the bad, something wedidn't.
The ugly, something that didn'tage well.

(01:17:11):
The fine, something that didage well what you got for the
good.
Uh, it's alan rickman man Iguess, I didn't know that this
was his first feature film and,hell yeah, man love Alan Rickman
so much thank you Die Hard forgiving us him like who would
have been Snape, like who wouldhave been in love actually with

(01:17:31):
some other British people boringass British people that don't
talk constantly like this.
Again, it's terrible.
My good is Bruce and Hans Hell.
Yeah, man, let's go.
Baby Bruce Willis, just socharismatic and good at action
and also can do serious movies.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Sixth Sense hell yeah , oh yeah, that was a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
He's the whole reason that M Night has a career.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
He's dead at the end.
Spoiler alert Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
I'm going gonna leave it in and I'm sorry, I didn't
mean to do it, but at this pointit's been spoiled for you
anyways shows all is spoiler.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, it is a spoiler .
It is a spoiler podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
All right, what do you got for the bad?
I'll tell you mine nothing andI won't hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
You got it, man.
Uh, yeah, there wasn't really.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
I mean, it's just long yeah it's just really,
really long, especially ifyou're watching on disney plus,
which is the only way to watchit for free.
Oh no, I was on hulu.
Yeah, well, it still has ads,so it just makes it even longer.
Yeah, all right.
What do you got for the ugly?

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
mine's pretty obvious well, mine was just the way
that they talked about japanesepeople like Like come on yeah.
It's been long enough.
Yeah, we can forget about PearlHarbor now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
So my ugly I picked was cop shooting a kid.
Nah, we hear about it all thetime it happens every day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
Now it's really sad.
There are 20, 324 massshootings this year.
Yeah, and it's not even overyet.
Yeah, the 84th 84 of them wereschools.
Oh, no, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
It's just using a.
It's really started a trend,the emotional death and
something that we're supposed to, you know, like feel bad for
this cop.
Is he shot a kid?
And it's like, no, yeah, youprobably should you probably
shouldn't have a gun anymore.
Dude, I'm like totally okaywith you not having a gun and
you didn't redeem yourself atthe end.
It's like it's just, I don'tknow, dude, you shot a kid.

(01:19:29):
I'm sorry it's over, it's likeI don't know they should give
him a wooden gun like yeah, andthe other guys hit him in the
head with it.
The fine something that agedwell.
Mine was just the them in thehead with it.
All right, the fine somethingthat aged well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Mine was just the movie in general yeah, yeah, I
mean, people are still watchingit every year.
Everybody loves it there's adoor at work that everyone
decorated.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
People decorated to look like this movie and alan
ripman falling off the buildingand it's the worst door because
they didn't finish it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
It looks like yeah it's kind of a bad job, but it's
still cool, so it'syippee-ki-yay on it yeah, they
should have just put it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
They should put the rest, it's like a staple for
christmas somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Yeah, and like I really didn't expect, because I
told ashley I was gonna watchthis movie, and she's like why
didn't you tell me before?
We would have had all the kidswatch it too.
I'm like, are you serious?
There's so much violence in it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
That's why she's like yeah, but it's just a cheesy
80s movie.
I'm like, yeah, that's true.
I guess I don't know, but nowwe have to watch it with the
kids and I'm really excitedabout that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Yeah, that's awesome.
And if they don't like it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
They're going to hate it.
Give them up for it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
It's not One Piece or Arcane or my Little Pony.
Just say there's a my LittlePony reference in it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Yeah, but it's at the very end, very end.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
All right, we're going to go to our next category
Double feature Movie.
That goes well with this movie.
I picked the Michael Bay moviestarring Nicolas Cage and Sean
Connery.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
And those little green balls, the Rock Hell, yeah
, man, and the heart shot.
Yeah, yes.
And those little green balls,the rock hell, yeah, man, and
the heart shot.
Ah, yes, ah, it's so good sofun, yeah, oh, and then they
shoot.
Then they shoot like missile,like at a football stadium.
It looks amazing it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
It all looks great.
It's a fun movie.
It's so corny and cheesy and Ilove it, and it's about domestic
terrorism hell yeah, man loveme.
Some domestic terrorism funalright, love me some domestic
terrorism.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
All right what you got.
I was going to choose Predator,yeah, but now I kind of want to
say Robin Hood, prince ofThieves, because seeing Al
Rickman, my pal Al Rickman, yo.
Ali, Ricks yeah, it reallymakes me want to watch that
movie.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Yeah, I could just watch anything with him at this
point.
And that is our discussion onDie Hard and all our categories.
Next week we're going back toDenzel Washington's Bag Baby and
Tony Scott.
It's another movie with thesetwo because we're doing man on
Fire.
I've actually never seen thismovie.

(01:21:58):
It's fun and this is Jason'srecommendation.
It's very violent and I'm superexcited that you recommended
this movie.
It's fun and this is Jason'srecommendation.
It's very violent and I'm superexcited that you recommended
this movie it's got some reallygood actors in it, because I
could just watch anything.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Like Dakota Fanning's in it.
Very young Dakota.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Fanning yeah, christopher Walken.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Yeah, christopher Walken.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Mark Anthony.
He's got a cool couple moviesMickey Rourke, robert Robert
Socher, and there's like one ofthe best, like ways to kill a
human.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
I think okay in this movie hell yeah it's super fun.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
I can't wait it's very emotional is it?
Yeah, well, make sure you joinus next week for that baby.
It's gonna be great.
Can't wait.
And let's land this plane.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Let's let's fall.
Oh god, we're on a plane.
How are we going to?

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
land it.
Let's fall off this building,all right, so make sure you join
us next week All right on thecount of three.
Make sure to join us next weekfor man on Fire.
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Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
And the feet pics.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
God dang it and you know what.
That's the end of this podcast.
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Come out to the coast.
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