Kiss Kiss Bang Bang

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's Jesse here.
Jason Crush that.
So we were actually thinkingabout changing things up on the
podcast.
You know, I go through theentire plot just because I kind
of like to do that myself, but Ifeel like maybe it's making the
episodes really long and Idon't know if people like that
or not.
You know, I don't know.
Jason, if you like longepisodes, if you like short

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episodes, I don't mind longepisodes, but no sure I don like
long episodes.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
or, if you like short episodes, I don't mind long
episodes, but no sure I don'tmind it, but I think it's
important to try new things.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, we're thinking about potentially just going to
where we hit like the bigdetails of a movie, which a
movie like kiss, kiss, bang,bang.
I feel like there's a lot ofintricacies throughout the whole
thing.
So it'd be like, okay, how dowe do this one?
But we're thinking about maybejust choosing like maybe five
scenes from the movie and kindof discussing them instead of
doing like a huge rundown of theentire movie.
Um, and we're just curious whatyou guys think about that.

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Hello and welcome to the weRecommend podcast, a movie
podcast, where every week werecommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse and I'm Jason.
Wow, I feel sore.
I mean physically, not like aguy who's angry in a movie in
the 1950s Because this week werecommend Kiss, kiss, bang, bang

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.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Hell yeah, I'm sore, not like a guy in the 50s who's
been molested all month.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, geez, luis, this entire movie is wrapped up
in that.
So what did you think of themovie First time, second time?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Third time.
I used to watch it quite a bit.
It was one of my go-tos when Iwas a teenager.
I used to love watching thismovie.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
It was kind of smart, but watching it as an adult, as
a full, real adult.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
It really makes you feel bad, it's kind of silly.
I feel like it hurts.
I mean I love all the you knowfun like detective PI stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, the noir stuff is cool.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, it's so fun.
Robert Downey Jr is great, valKim was great, michelle
Monaghan's great, and then it'sjust like he keeps cutting back.
Yeah, this woman was abused.
This woman is like as a kid.
I was abused as a kid.
I was abused.
I'm like Jesus.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Christ, la is crazy.
Yeah, I guess that's LA.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I guess that's what Shane Black's trying to say and
I'm assuming he he was like abig you know writer.
Producer and stuff, a writerLike in the 50s.
You know, lethal Weapon, longKiss, goodnight Predator.
He's done everything.
He's the highest paidscreenwriter ever, hell yeah,
and they even actually used hismansion that's his mansion in

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the movie.
Oh, was it at the party?
At the party, yeah, nice.
And he actually used to have bigparties like this and that's
what gave him the idea of doingsomething like this Nice Well,
having a party there.
But it's like you know it.
You know, after all, the winescene and stuff comes out and
it's like, yeah, a lot of thesedirectors and stuff kind of knew
it and writers kind of knew andthey subtly put it in a lot of

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their movies and I was like um,does this mean anything?
What happened to his partiesman?
What um?
Does this mean anything?
What happened to his partiesman?
What does he know?
California is so dirty, I'm surehe's heard a lot of stories
like this People just leavingtheir homes Be like, yeah, I had
to get out of there, so I cameto LA, where it's never
everything's safe and cool.
Yeah, it never rained, so itmust be safe, right?
It's always warm, even duringChristmas.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
God it sounds like hell.
Yeah, a whale's vagina.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
But man, what a fun movie.
Shane Black's very firstfeature, oh, shit Like as a
director, yeah.
Nice, and after that he justessentially did Iron man 3, and
then the Nice Guys, and then thePredator movie that nobody
liked.
Yeah, oh wait, which one?
With Michael Michael Keaton Keyand Peele it's Key though.

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Yeah, it was that one that cameout.
It was like they're in modernAmerica and stuff like that.
Okay, nobody liked it.
I haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
I haven't seen it either, I guess.
But yeah, I have no fuckingidea what you're talking about
Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
So what about this movie?
Do you like?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I do like the.
I always love a mystery.
I like Ropes me in every time.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Yeah, nice to shoot ropes.
Jesse loves ropes.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Ropes, shoot them everything.
Climate Gross.
No, I do gross.
No, I do like that.
Um, I like the modern noir, Iguess, and I I do like the.
Uh, I like val kelmer'scharacter.
There's a lot of like, there'sa lot of funny quips and, uh,
it's like something about noir.

(05:18):
It's kind of like sexy andgruesome and like yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh, that's appealing, it's all.
Noirs are always dark.
Yeah, like, even like making itbeing like this fun movie
wrapped around, being wrapped upin like horrible, like assault
type things, yes, and it's like,well, that is kind of a noir
thing.
It's always like, yeah, someonedid something really dark and
it's like, dude, it's likeeverybody's got a really dark
past.
So, yeah, and man, I love la asa setting for a movie though,

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yeah, it's perfect, because it'slike dude, fuck, it's like
everybody's got a really darkpast.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, and man, I love LA as a setting for a movie,
though, yeah it's perfect, it'salways beautiful.
It's full of insane people.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's huge and it's just like just the streets look
dope.
I don't know.
There's something about LA thatyou just I want to go, at least
once, yeah, same here Talkabout how much I hate it.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
It's like, yeah, I couldn't drive anywhere.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I did one thing.
I can't afford anything.
I did one thing one day becauseI couldn't get to anywhere else
.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, I was just stuck.
Yeah, I feel like a lot ofpeople just get stuck there,
yeah, and become unhoused.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Yeah, I couldn't afford gas, so I just stayed.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Hell, like a grilled cheese sandwich.
There is like $17.
Really, I heard that on anotherpodcast.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Better be a really good grilled cheese sandwich
Fuck yeah, man With pickles andeverything.
Ew pickles on a grilled cheesesandwich.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Have you never got one from Sonic?

Speaker 1 (06:33):
No, I don't go to Sonic for my grilled cheeses.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Oh yeah, it's been a while.
Maybe they've taken the pickleaway.
My wife makes them.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
I try to make grilled cheese sandwiches, but I burn
them every time.
I can't do it.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I tried making one for the kids once and I looked
up a recipe on the internet,which is dangerous now that I
understand, because they dip itin mayonnaise, and that's what I
did and nobody liked it yeah.
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I don't know, that sounds gross.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I don't like mayonnaise, yeah, but once you
fry it up it was like it waskind of like a tang.
It kind of gave it a tang, atang, a dang tang.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
A dang tang.
Well, so for me, the first timeI saw Can we just keep talking
about grilled cheeses.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I mean, if that's what you want to do, we can be
the.
We recommend a grilled cheese.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I do recommend it.
So when I first saw this movieand it was, of course, after I
saw Iron man, because eventhough I've seen a bunch of
Robert Downey Jr's before, likeI never saw this one and you-
know, has any other movie madeyou wish that he was Iron man?
Yeah, I mean it's obviously howhe got the role right.
I mean, jon Favreau saw him inthis movie and like, essentially

(07:44):
, like you're iron man dude likethis is what we need for iron.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I don't see how he gets that from this movie, but
okay, I think this is like hishis.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
You know his quips and you know he just comes off
as like a snooty guy, which iswhat iron man was.
Yeah, I think he's abillionaire yeah.
Yeah, and I think he, you know,just perfect portrayal.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
But it's great, because, because, all
billionaires are thieves.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
So you know Robert Downey Jr, he essentially got
kicked out of Hollywood becausehe was a drug addict.
Yeah, he was super into drugs.
He had to go to rehab and stuff.
Lots of alcohol too.
Yeah, it was kind of everything.
And this you know, because,yeah, he was having a big career
.
He was in that Charlie Chaplinmovie.
That was like I think he gothim like Oscar I can, is it

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reckon recognition?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Dang.
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Robert Downey Jr, and so he had to go to rehab and
everything and essentially hisstock just plummeted.
And then he I think the onlymovie he did in the 2000s before
this was Gothica.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Oh, that was okay.
Yeah, he was in that.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I've never fully seen that.
Gothica's pretty good.
I've put it on and fallenasleep quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Didn't the lady that played the main actress?
She died Right In the making ofthat movie, or maybe, like
right after.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, because it's what's her name.
Halle Berry is in it.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Oh, I was thinking of a different one, unless someone
else in the movie died.
No, I was thinking of adifferent movie.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
No, because Penelope Cruz is in it.
John Carroll Lynch is in it.
The guy from the Invitation,the big guy.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And he also plays Zodiac.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
zodiac, that's fun, oh yeah, um, but yeah, and he
did that.
And then shane black was like,oh yeah, here be in my movie.
And he's like, okay, and thenit just restarted his career and
now he's like one of the bestguys ever.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, that can I buy more drugs?
Yes, I mean, he does have hehas such a great story.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's like he was an up-and-comer.
You know, his dad was kind ofin hollywood.
He always made kind of likereally weird avant-garde movies,
his dad there's actually adocumentary on netflix about his
dad.
Really, yeah, that robertdowney jr made I still need to
watch it.
Wow, yeah, cool, I need towatch.
And he made like weirdexperimental uh movies and stuff
.
And then you know, I'm surethere's a bit of nepotism in it.
And then you know, robertdowney jr starts getting big,

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gets into drugs, goes to rehab,gets this movie, becomes iron
man and eventually wins an Oscarfor Oppenheimer.
And it's like damn, that's astory I didn't know he won an
Oscar.
I don't watch the Oscars.
Oh yeah, he won it last yearfor Oppenheimer.
It was great.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Everybody was super happy.
Yeah, I still haven't seenOppenheimer.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
And his speech was good and it was fun.
He's just like it wasn't.
Anything like that.
Blast the audience with an Ironman beam.
You guys think Iron man wascool?
Fuck it, you nerds.
Just kidding.
Iron man is cool and for somereason he's coming back to the
MCU.
It makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
What?
He's dead.
Yeah, I know Okay, but he'sgoing to be in the fantastic.
He's going to be the nextJarvis.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
He's Dr back as well.
Okay, it was actually releasedtoday that he may be playing
Nomad I don't know who that iswhich I guess is just like
another character of Captain.
America.
I don't know, cool, we'll see.
Who knows what these movies aregoing to do.
But back to good movies and ValKilmer man.
This is probably like his bestmovie, his last, one of his last

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movies before he just likedisappeared from everything
because you know, he also had anissue with, like drugs and
alcohol, and it's funny.
Well, it's not funny.
Well, because, um, yeah, holdon, let me see, yeah, there's
really outside of kiss, kiss,bang, bang, everything after it
other than top, the new top gun.

(11:27):
There's nothing I really knowhim for.
He's just done a bunch of smallthings and just some voiceover.
God dang, he's been this bad.
Oh, don't forget MacGruber.
That's probably his worst movie, his last best movie, and I
don't accept any other.
He's in Love Guru.

(11:49):
That, that great movie.
I've not seen love guru, yeah,so, oh, he's in deja vu, I
forgot about that.
The um denzel movie yeah, okay,that was probably his last one
which he did that a year afterthis movie.
So, okay, well, he did somestuff.
Michelle monaghan she's justgreat and she always, like,
randomly, will pop up in a movie.
I'm like dang where'd she go,how do?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
you feel about her script in this movie.
What do you mean?
Cause I was watching.
I asked my wife to watch thismovie with me and she was really
upset about her, her character.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, in what?
Her a lot.
Her character.
Yeah, in what way?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
and that she was just kind of like, uh cool with
everything that keeps happeningto her, I guess, yeah, yeah, I
think in a way that's exactlywhat it was like.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, she's kind of just fine with being an object
well, I mean, I guess it wasjust like she had the type of
personality it's just like, well, life fucking sucks, um, I'm
not gonna let it stop me.
Type of person, and like she'sconstantly had life fucking
sucks, I'm not going to let itstop me.
Type of person, and like she'sconstantly had a goal right to
get her sister out of everything.
So it's like this dude grabbedmy boot, but it doesn't matter,
I have to get famous and rich soI can get my sister out, type
of thing.

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That's such a sad story, yeahyes that's what she said.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
I didn't want to come out and say that because of
course the guy wrote it.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
It's early 2000s where, like half the scripts did
not have very good parts forwomen and they're always just
kind of like and her characteris definitely just like.
Hey, she has to be like thisfor the plot of the movie to get
our, uh, main character topoint a and b and c.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I see that and I do like her character a lot at some
points, especially when shekicks that guy's ass.
Yeah, yeah, that guy at thepark, or whatever.
Hell yeah, dude.
Yeah, my wife didn't see thatone, she was asleep.
I should have woken her up forthis one yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, and I can see that you know, like whenever
Robert Downey Jr kind of like issquishing the spider on her
boob and she's like, oh, it'sokay, that's life, and it's like
man has to tell woman how tolive her life and be, a proper
woman, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, his character is a whole other.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah, he's, you know he's just doing his like
what do you call it?
Manic Robert Downey Jr thing,you know.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I guess, yeah, he's kind of like a misogynist, but
that's whatever.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, he's like, oh no, I need a lady to be a proper
lady.
Yeah, snatches her hat off.
She's like I'm working.
Well, no, that was like.
It's like hey, I got to showyou this video.
It's like look, I can't takeyou serious with this Santa hat.
I, I didn't think that one wasthat bad.
She's like dude, we got to payattention.
It's like well, you dress asSanta.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, but like, come on , get over the hat, it's just a
hat, All right, it's a funnyline, though it's funny.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, of course, like thescript and stuff doesn't age.
Well, it's most noirs, don't?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Like especially I.
I guess that's part of it.
And it's early 2000s.
So this is such an early 2000sscript, yeah, where it's just
like I don't know.
It's like women are just mainlyobjects in the movie.
Yeah, but she crushes it.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, she's awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I like her, she's funny and just I don't know
she's funny sexy.
She makes it work.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, it'll probably come up, she.
Yeah, that's, it'll probablycome up yeah.
She does it and she's like I'msolving this she also is like
like the damsel in distress yeah, at the same time Like who are
you lady?
Yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I is she, though, cause I mean she stays away and
then she gets in the car.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
She's taking action getting the casket, and then
she's like she just yeetsherself off of a bridge.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I know, and it's like , she's like but then she's like
the amazing herald come, saveme, get me.
Yes, well she's.
She's like knocked out.
Yeah, I guess, I mean I feellike in terms of hey, she's
putting up a fight and she'sdoing a lot of things, then she
jumped off a bridge and nowshe's hurt yeah, jumping off a
bridge sucks.
I a lot of things.
Then she jumped off a bridgeand now she's hurt.
Yeah, jumping off a bridgesucks, I mean I feel like yeah,

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if they just used a better line.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Be like hey, I'm down here and my legs hurt, are you
OK?
Because if you can walk, youshould come get me.
I had to talk my brother off abridge, not because he was going
to jump, but because he wasrappelling off of a bridge.
Uh, not because he was gonnajump, but because he was
rappelling off of a bridge, ohcool, because he heard someone
else did it from a rumor andthought it was fun.
But there was like 80 feet ofspace between because he didn't
bring a long enough rope, oh mygod and between the ground and

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him and I was like and he'sstill was going to do it.
Yeah, he's like I'm gonna jumplike dude you're gonna die.
But please don't do this.
I wouldn't even understand.
Like I'm gonna jump.
I'm like dude, you're gonna die.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Please don't do this.
I wouldn't even understand,like once you see your rope's
not long enough.
What are you doing at thatpoint?
I know, but he went.
Did he think 80 feet from was?
It water Was there water.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Below him.
There was a trickle of water.
I think the person who did itbefore that he heard about there
was a lot of water.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, and he landed safely.
He probably had a lot of rope.
Wow, you saved your friend'slife, my brother, your brother's
life Wow, really that's insane.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
He's an insane person .

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, and what do you think about Val Kilmer's
character as Gay Perry?
I really liked him.
Talk about another thing that'snot going to age well, there we
go.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
No yeah no.
I really liked gay Perry.
I thought he was super cool,but like he's got, he's just
kind of like a dirty privateinvestigator.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, and at this point, like there's really not a
lot of people that lead a movieas a gay person at this point,
so this was like especially a,you know, just like a crime
thriller noir, it's like not alot of things, which was pretty
progressive and I guess theyweren't overtly like.

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They didn't make them overtlylike you know like it's just
mainly in the dialogue where hehe's like he'll just say some
like off the wall things, but italways seems like it's in it's
to kind of just creep out RobertDowney Jr, more so than it's
like oh no, I'm not actuallylike this, it's just like I'm a
normal gay guy and I justunderstand it makes you

(17:58):
uncomfortable.
So I'm just picking on you atthis point because he doesn't
really like him.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, and with, and I feel like the movie does pick
on gay people a few timesthroughout the movie.
Uh, which is kind of weirdbeing la, which is like, yeah,
kind of like the mostprogressive place on the in the
united states, and I feel likethat's why, like, they kind of
make his character gay becauseit'd be like, isn't this crazy?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
how la have you ever seen a gay person before?
What, oh my gosh?
And he's a detective.
How is that possible?
Whoa what.
But even though, with all oflike the potentially things that
don't age well, it's still apretty darn good movie.
Yeah, it was fun, it's reallyfun.

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It was a fun watch and I willsay it's funny because my wife
was like man, that was a longmovie and I was like that was
actually only an hour and 45minutes.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
She's like what it felt so much longer.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
But I will say like, if you watch it like kind of
close together more, it reallystarts Like so I watched it last
night with my wife and then Iwatched it today to take notes,
and watched it today to takenotes and like the second time
you watch it just really fliesby and I think because the plot
is kind of convoluted andcomplicated, which is kind of a
noir thing of course but which Ithink what makes it harder to

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understand the plot is thatthey're all fast talkers in this
movie, so it's like you couldjust really miss it.
But I think whenever you firstwatch a noir mystery, you're
kind of just trying to figure itout in your head, right, so
it's making you feel like ittakes longer.
Once you know the story and youfully know it and understand it
, it kind of just really thepace goes Just because it's
funny, and like one fun sceneleads to another fun scene.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Okay, well, let's go to some factoids here.
So so, as a show of support forRobert Downey Jr's recovery
from alcohol and drugs, valKilmer refused to drink during
the entire production.
Ah, what a friend.
And the reason that he was sonice to him is that, apparently,
val Kilmer and Robert Downey Jrmet for the first time at a

(19:56):
Hollywood party, and they kindof become buddies there.
And a week later he receivedthe screenplay for this film and
agreed to do it before he'deven finished reading it.
Upon agreeing, and much to hisdelight, he was informed that
downy had already been cast aswell.
Nice, so they made it a partyand it's like hey, we're gonna
be in a movie now, let's befriends.
That's cool, it's probably.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's probably a shane black party that'd be awesome
to go to one of these partiesand just like play beer pong
with val kilmer.
Hey pal, let well, robertwasn't doing that, no.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, that'd be pretty great.
It's like I'm just at the bar,I want to do a shot.
Hey, you want to do one with me?
Turns around Robert De Niro,Native American.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Joe Pesci.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
So good.
I do have some facts about thattoo, and so this is Robertbert
downey jr's favorite movie ofhis own oh shit, and I think
it's.
You know it just did a lot tonarrate, it did a lot for his
film or his career and I guesshe kind of just got to be you
know a bit of what robert downeyjr is, which is a fast talking,
witty guy.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah and I think a lot of that came out in the
narration.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, what do you feel about the
narration?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's bad you don't like the narration.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
It was not great, yeah, but okay, you know it's
whatever.
I think it takes a second forit to kind of like sink in, that
it's like it becomes part ofthe film and you're like okay.
But at the start it's like ofcourse he would narrate a thing
like this.
Um, so I guess the film'soriginal title was called

(21:27):
l-a-p-i, that's then bang.
They called it.
They're gonna call it bang.
But it was actually val kilmerwho suggested to director shane
black that kiss, kiss, bang,bang would have more appeal yeah
, yeah it does, and um.
so robert downey Jr consideredhis role as Harry Lockhart his
calling card to playing TonyStark in the cinematic Marvel

(21:51):
Cinematic Universe.
While preparing to make Ironman, downey Jr's performance
inspired director Jon Favreau tocast him in the role.
So, yeah, that's how ithappened.
So Shane Black had beensuffering from writer's block.
It ultimately took him over ayear and a half to write the
script for this film.
He then had an enormous troubleselling it and because he used
to be known as the highest paidscreenwriter, it ended up

(22:14):
meaning nothing when he wasshopping his screenplay around.
Eventually he took it toproducer Joe Silver, who gave
him his first big break in 1987when he bought Lethal Weapon
Nice, and that's essentiallybecause he had that you know,
connection with Joe Silver.
They were like, all right, yeah, we'll shop it around and we'll
do it.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
I wish I knew more about business.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Yeah, me too.
All right, and for a lastlittle fact.
So, according to Shane Black,audience members lose their
attention span every 28 minutes.
Audience members lose theirattention span every 28 minutes,
and moments have to come inevery half hour or so where they
don't have to pay closeattention and are able to get
focused again.
Oh man, I'm gonna start settinga timer, yeah.

(22:53):
So I just wonder like if everylittle action scene comes up and
it's like, okay, we can kind oflike just go mindless for a
second and then, oh fun, bigbang, boom.
And now they're talking bigbang, boom, big bada boom and so
that's a.
That's pretty much, um, all likethem fun facts.
Really.
Everything else is kind of likeoh here, this song was in this

(23:16):
movie and it's like, okay, cool,lame, yeah, um, so I'll just
run down the cast real quick.
So, directed and written byShane Black Lethal Weapon.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
He wrote that Predator wrote that yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah.
So you know, kind of a kind ofa big, big guy here.
This is first directed movieStars Robert Downey Jr as Harry
Lockhart, val Kilmer as GayPerry, michelle Monaghan as
Harmony Faith Lane, corbinBernson as Harlan Dexter Dash
I'm not you know what.
That's pretty much everybodyyou need to know.
I was just thinking, I was likeeverybody else.

(23:52):
This has like five lines mostyeah, yeah.
All right, bro, are you readyto hop into the film?
All right, kiss, kiss, bang,bang 2005.
So the movie starts with abirthday party where some kids
are performing a magic trick.
This party looks awesome.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
They're going to cut this girl in half with a
chainsaw.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Looks like a real blade.
Who gave a kid a?

Speaker 1 (24:15):
chainsaw People.
These parents need to payattention.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, they don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
And then, as they're about to start putting the
chainsaw in this box, the girl,little girl, starts screaming
her head off.
She's like stop, stop, stop.
And then, like her dad andeverybody runs around her and
says I'm going to be the bestactor ever.
And then her dad hits her, hits.
Her.
Middle of a party Must be the60s or 70s, god damn, just

(24:43):
immediately started, which isgoing to be the theme of this
music movie Abusive fathers.
Yes, and men God damn Men takingadvantage of women throughout
the entire movie Makes you feelgreat.
Yeah, but luckily Robert DowneyJr and Val Kilmer and Michelle
Monaghan make you laugh, justlaugh through the page, kind of

(25:04):
a gallows humor.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
We're all kind of abused right.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
I like dark humor, I mean it works right, everybody
likes a little bit, yeah, allright.
And then we start Day one.
Trouble is my business.
So we meet Harry.
He's narrating his own story.
He is nervously hanging out ata party next to a pool.
He doesn't belong in, la, andit's obvious because he's like I
, like it tells flicka yeah ornot.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Flicka, the girl, one girl, it's like hi hey, what do
you do?

Speaker 1 (25:33):
hi, I'm retired, I invented.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Dice yes, she's like okay see ya, I'm gonna go find
someone better.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Yeah, exactly um and then so we just kind of
introduced other people.
We meet Harry, or we meet PerryVan Strick, or Gay Perry.
He's a PI and he works for thisproducer Penis.
Yeah he's a penis Damn dudegood one, we're canceled.
So he explains that he got tothe party because he was robbing

(26:03):
a place for his kid.
Then we have a little flashbackyeah, him and his buddy.
I think it was like his niece,though Niece, something like
that.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh yeah, he doesn't have a kid.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
That's my bad.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I kind of got used to putting kid in the title, so he
if they're robbing a place,he's like, hey, what tour did
you want to this kid on the line?
And then all of a sudden, thewire trip or the alarm trips ups
, truck drives by and knocks outhis security bypass like why
not make it a train or somethingyou're in new?
York, or la right, or is he innew york?

(26:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Fuck, I can't remember I don't know well, he's
from the east coast yeah, so heprobably is in new york or
something.
Yeah um, and then so the alarmgoes off.
They're trying to run from thecops, they're out into the
middle of the street and then,all of a sudden, a random woman
comes out on our balcony Goddamn it and is like stop, I'm
going to shoot you.
And then she just ends upshooting his partner and catches
him in the arm, yeah.

(27:10):
She just like threw his jacketand then he, uh, runs away,
leaving him there yeah, thatchick loves toys, yeah.
And then, um, so he he's liketrying to get away, and then he
just stumbles into this actorlike, um, uh, what do you call
it?
Audition, yeah, audition, yeah.
And so at first he starts andhe doesn't seem into it, and
then they say you got yourpartner killed.
And then he kind of flips outand starts acting good because
it's real and they're like goddang we gotta get this guy in
our movie.
Hell, yeah, everybody's method.
Now, and it's fun because youknow this is the beginning of a

(27:33):
movie and we see his friend getshot and killed and you know he
essentially has no reaction, hejust runs away.
Versus a little bit later.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
And his friend was just stealing like teddy bears
and shit.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, no reason to get shot, go to jail.
I understand that.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
That lady should go to jail.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
She just shot some random people in the alley that
weren't going to shoot her.
So well, yeah, well, he's likeput the guy down, yeah, and
she's just like that lady.
Just you know tough streets outthere, you know people robbing,
you got to yeah just don't gooutside ever.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
And then we learn he is now in LA for a screen test
for the movie.
I feel like this is how ChrisPratt got his career, yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Because he was a beach bum and he was unhoused,
living with women Living in hisvan just trying out for
auditions.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
That's how he got in the OC.
Yeah well, I'd like to thinkthat he was stealing toys.
He might.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Probably eating out of the trash.
We learn he's just like pickingup kids and shaking them.
Give me your lunch money.
He doesn't seem like that typeof guy, though.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, he seems like a nice guy.
He was unhoused, living on thebeach.
I feel like he would have doneanything.
Yeah, I mean like he would havedone anything.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, I mean he probably I don't know.
I think he like worked at.
I think I remember reading heworked at like a T-shirt shop or
something, I don't know.
I don't quote me on that.
Why are you quoting me at all?
I don't know.
Anyway.
So we meet Harmony.
We learn that she's at theparty because when she was a kid
she loved Johnny Gossamernovels that idolized LA.
Later in life we see that herlittle sister was getting abused

(29:08):
by her father.
So at the age of 16, she leftfor LA to make money to rescue
her sister and to leave yoursister Right at 16.
And then we learn now she's 34and didn't rescue her at all.
But then we also learned that afew weeks before the party, an
actor who played a charactercalled Protocol was drunk in her
apartment.

(29:28):
She scared him and he fell tohis death.
That's hilarious.
And then the producer that isalso that Gay Perry is with saw
Harmony on the news, invited herto the party invite her to
something.
Sometimes that's all it takesin LA.
You just get seen at the righttime.
They're like well, she'sattractive.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
She's going to something.
Sometimes that's all it takesin LA.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
You just get seen at the right time.
They're like well, she'sattractive, she's going to be in
this movie.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Hopefully she can act .
That's why you should alwayslook your best.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
That's why you should always hang out around crimes,
get into the news.
But Zoinks, yowza, it's likedamn, that was rough.
Back to the party.
Harmony finds out that the hostat the pub of the party has all
the Johnny Gossamer books.
She reads them and falls asleepin a room at the party.
Then, classic, some randomcreep comes in and starts

(30:20):
touching her and like pulling upher dress a little bit.
And then Harry sees this Walkaway.
Don't think, just do it.
Yeah, get walk away.
Don't think, just do it.
Yeah, get the fuck out of here,you creep.
Harry says he'll beat him up.
It's like, bro, it's nearly mybedtime, you won't go outside.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's like such a tough talking guy and then they
get cut to him outside justgetting the shit made out of him
and he's like it's like one ofthese days I'm gonna learn how
to fight I know, like I've neverseen that in a movie like
someone standing up for someoneelse and then just getting their
ass whooped like crazy.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's okay, because that's all that needed to happen
to get him away from her.
So, it's like just take yourbeating, dude.
You did it, and it's like hey.
Harry might not be the bestperson we're going to find out
in the movie, but guess what?
He's the a nice guy?
No, he's not.

(31:06):
He just does what he's paid todo.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Classic PI stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I love private investigator movies, though have
you ever met one?

Speaker 2 (31:15):
private investigator.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
No, because they're never like the movies.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I met one in Mexico and he said he's like yeah, all
I do is.
All he does is like stakeouts.
Take out, take pictures 90% ofwhat he does is like catch
people cheating.
Yeah, yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So Perry comes up after Harry gets beat up and
helps him up.
They are meeting for the firsttime.
We learned that Perry is theconsultant on the film Harry is
acting in and there's like allthe funny banter about his name.
He's like oh, they call you gayPerry.
Funny banter about his name.
He's like oh, they call you gayPerry.
And he's like Harry, yes, stillgay Perry me.

(31:49):
No, I'm knee deep in pussy.
I just like the name so much Ican't get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I know, man, once you've branded yourself, it's
hard to rebrand, I imagine.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Well, no, he's just being sarcastic though, yeah,
but I think Val Kilmer actuallyhas the funniest lines in the
entire movie.
Oh, hell, yeah, Like he.
It's wild Cause you don'treally see him as like a comedic
actor.
But when you go from you knowkiss, kiss, bang, bang to him
being funny and MacGruber, it'slike damn, the guy had some
comedic chops there.

(32:17):
But then if you think about it,his movies was top secret.
Is that parody movie of youknow spy movies?
Have you ever seen it?
No, I've watched it a long timeago, um, like re-watched it and
you know it just wasn't asfunny as I remember it being.
But I should.
This is not a comedian.

(32:38):
Yeah, I mean, he was funny,it's just.
You know the movie.
And then harry sees harmonyleaving the party with the guy
who beat him up.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
He's like damn it.
Oh man, I lost again.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah.
And so we learn that theproducer his name was Daphne is
having Harry shadow Perry forhis role as a PI.
Harry and Perry, yeah.
And then, as they're bothtalking, harry and Perry we meet
.
We then meet Harlan Dexter, theparty host.
We learn it's Dexter'sdaughter's B-Day.
Apparently they have had a badrelationship and three months

(33:09):
before the party she was suinghim for his millions, even
called her a bad word, cunt.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, that's.
I really like that about ValKilmer's character.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's very like oh, I don't want to be rude, I'm going
to say the thing I was going tosay.
And then he goes welcome toHollywood.
And then Harry stops the tapeand he says a bit.
It's like hmm, gee, I wonderthis random little scene in this
movie that makes no sense.
I wonder if that's going to bea callback later.
Just like damn okay, deadpoolcrime down Jesse's alley.
Yeah, I was like I love this,but yeah, it's just like the

(33:46):
classic.
Every noir has it where it'slike oh, here's these random
characters that you haven't metbefore and meet for five seconds
, and it seems not make sense.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Oh, I bet everything's connected.
I bet nothing's going to comefrom this.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
And then Harry talks about harmony to Perry.
He's she.
He says she feels like thatdream girl from high school that
got away.
Perry knows the girl and sendsthem, sends Harry, to the domino
room.
It's going to be hard tocontinue talking and having to
say Harry and Perry.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
How would you, how do you feel about a bar with no
chairs?
You have to sit on the floor,is that?

Speaker 1 (34:21):
what it is.
Yes, I didn't even notice.
Oh yeah, because they are.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, it sounds terrible, I mean if the carpet's
comfy.
But it's a very and you gotlike a comfy pillow I do enjoy
like the very Christmassyaesthetic they got going on
there.
Yeah, it seems like a fun thing.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Christmas in LA must be watch it every year.
Hell yeah, I die hard.
If you're a sicko like us, youdon't like normal christmas
movies.
If you don't like hallmarkchristmas movies, watch hot.
Uh, what is it?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
hot frosty not yet sexy frosty, not yet.
I mean, I'm sure it will happenand, like red one, I'm kind of
excited about that one.
I'm not just because it's lookterrible.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Is that why you're excited for it?
Look like a christmas mcu movie.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I yes I my wife is super excited about it because
she's got this thing for santalike hot santa, okay, and that's
continue.
I'm worried that's why I'mexcited, because she's excited.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I was wondering why he came in with a santa costume
on with it unbuttoned a littlebit and my chest you came all
the way here with no pants on doyou think santa was a ginger?
I hope he was at one point Idon't know, I think he was just
born old right.
Yeah, it's like that bit, thatsnl skit, where um a woman's
giving birth and then willferrell comes out.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Oh, it was hot in there.
He's a 45-year-old man.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I like to think that's how it went.
Yeah, all right.
So, man, you just reallydropped that Santa thing on me
it's going to be hard toconcentrate from now on.
So Harry goes to the domino room.
He meets a woman named Flicka.
He tells her he's a PI and we,we learned she is a flight
attendant.
It's just like the scene withdexter.

(36:08):
It's like what?
Why is this in here?
We'll find out later.
So he sits next to harmony.
They have a lot of witty banter.
They kind of call out other.
It's like, oh, you can go overthere with that guy.
He looks like a brazilian,billy bob.
It's like, oh, I'll be overthere next to the Native
American, joe Pesci, Funny.
So he actually wrote in thescript.

(36:28):
He wrote different things.
I think he wrote like BlackPatrick, swayze and things.
They were just placeholders, andso when he got to the scene, he
put all the extras, he linedthem all up and he looked at
them to see if he can come upwith any funny things, like
Native American Joe Pesci andthings like that, so to see if
he can come up with any funnythings like Native American.

(36:49):
Joe Pesci and things like that.
So that's how those actors gotpicked.
Yeah, her friend God, yeah, butbefore that.
So he's kind of she's trying to.
It's like, oh, it's kind oflike, oh, don't sit next to me,
go sit next to her.
And then kind of talks about it.
It's like, yeah, that girl,she's 35 and still trying to
make it into the business Timeto give up honey.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Man, that's harsh.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Harry's like what's your age?
And he's like 34.
I'm just a baby.
And then so, after more wittybanter, her friend comes up and
tries to scare him off, and thenit seems to work.
Her head twitches a lot, yeah.
And then Harmony finally bringsup.
That's like's like Harry, whenare you gonna notice me?
And he's like oh, you'reHarmony, the.

(37:29):
and then um, they huh no, Ithink that was kind of the whole
thing because, like, wheneverhe goes back in the narration
he's like, yeah, so about that,and they cut back to the
birthday party.
It's like you know that girlthat I said that got away.
Well, her name was actually uh,because that was her Harmony,
and it's like you know that girlthat I said that got away.
Well, her name was actually uh,um, because that was her harmony
, and it was like, yeah, and itturns out this is her, and so

(37:51):
it's later that night.
Now they're both getting drunksitting on the floor.
They're talking about how afilm production came to town and
that's how harmony got into tojohnny gossamer.
Yes, uh, we learned thatharmony didn't get famous, but
she did get to do a commercialwith a bear yeah, that bear
commercial reminds me.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Did you ever see the one where the guy's fighting a
bear over a fish?
Uh-uh, well, maybe, or he'slike.
He's like they get into.
The bear comes up and tries tosteal his fish and then they get
into a boxing match.
Oh, that sounds familiar, andthen he kicks the bear in the
balls.
Anyway, it is a beer commercial, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
But the reason, like all this is being brought up
because you know she wanted tomake money to get her daughter,
her sister, out of the house,you know, away from the father.
But it didn't work.
So she's like really bummed outthat she's not famous.
And then he's like, no, you gota national commercial, that's
great, she's not famous.
And then he's like, no, you gota national commercial, that's
great, that's really good,that's something.
And so they're kind of hittingit off now and he invites her

(38:52):
back to his hotel.
He's like you can bring yourfriend whatever, just one drink,
and she seems to be into it.
And then we cut to.
The next day he wakes up.
Thanks for me.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
Next to a friend no.
He's super sweet all of asudden.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Harry, everything could have been so much easier
for you if you weren't an idiot.
Yeah, he's a moron.
He got blacked out drunk.
Didn't know what he was doinganymore.
Have you ever been blacked outdrunk?
Yeah, it's scary.
Yeah, I've only ever done it,and it's always been when I'm
here.
And yeah, I've.
I've only ever done it and it'salways been when I'm here.

(39:28):
And the first time I did it Iwas like I was like what?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
yeah, you wake up in a different room.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
You're like oh well, it's like, it's just like I
remember like very vague points,but I'm like, golly, like I was
at least up like I we'replaying uh, you don't uh jackbox
games on the switch and I'mlike I am.
I played for like an hour ormore with my friends, my wife
and I didn't know, and all Iremember is just like waking up

(39:54):
seeing natalie like kind ofstart falling asleep, like here
we gotta go to bed.
And then it's just like thenext day I'm like what the fuck?
I was like was I funny in mygame?
What did I?
Was I funny?
Was I funny in my game?
Was I funny?
Was I obnoxious?
I don't know.
Apparently, I didn't act toodifferent.
I was just obviously drunk,yeah, yeah, but anyways.

(40:14):
So after realizing he wassleeping with his friend, he
just gets up, like what the hell?
He immediately runs out thedoor, says nothing, he runs out
of his hotel and goes toHarmony's place.
Tell he runs out of his hoteland goes to Harmony's place,
tells her he blacked out and shesays like you ended up having
sex with my friend, kind of abummer.
He tries to be like no, Ipromise I was blacked out
Technically, I didn't mean to.
And then she slams the door onhis face.

(40:43):
We'll see that a few more times.
One time it's really funny.
And then we cut to.
We get this great shot himwalking out, he's putting a
cigarette on you got the palmtrees behind him and then he's
just kind of looking back at herhotel or house or apartment,
whatever.
This is a great shot.
It's very noir, feeling, sure,yeah.
And then we cut to day two.
Harry is shadowing Perry.

(41:04):
He explains Johnny Gossamer tohim.
He essentially says like yeah,there's a normal case and
there's a wild case, and theyalways end up being one case.
Yeah, man, I don't know ifthat's going to have anything to
do with the movie.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Did you count when she talks about how they killed
16 people in every book?
Did you count?
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Shit, I forgot to as well.
It doesn't feel like there's 16, no-transcript, damn it.
I was hoping that would come upin the facts, but I never saw
anything about it yeah, thatprobably didn't happen yeah.
And then, like they talk about,and you know, robert Downey Jr
is just being his neurotic selfgoing through like all his stuff

(41:46):
in his car and he pulls outthis tiny gun.
So we learn Perry was hired byAllison Ames who wants him to do
some video surveillance, andhe's like, oh really, how'd you
meet her?
And then Perry's like, yeah,well, I just went to her house,
knocked on her door and she wasonly in her underwear and she
said take a seat, and she sat inmy lap.
I was like, really no, my jobis very boring, it's nothing

(42:08):
like the movies.
We learn that Harmony promisedHarry that she wouldn't.
Oh, and Harmony promised Harrythat she wouldn't, oh, yeah, and
they're just kind of bringingup talking about Harmony and
it's like, oh, it turns out thatthat was actually the girl that
I grew up with, that I was inlove with for my life.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, he was the friend and friend zone hardcore.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
And we learned that it's like she slept with like
every guy in high school, exceptfor my friend Harry.
She promised me she wouldn'tfuck him and then, like all that
conversation leads to themgetting to the house to survey.
Somebody comes out of the houseand drives off.
They hear like a noise almosthe's like what's wrong with this
car?
I'm not a fucking mechanic.

(42:45):
Obviously there's a live personin the trunk.
So they follow.
Oh, she was alive In the trunk.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
That's why she was already dead.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
That's what they're hearing in the car Right.
I don't remember I felt like itsounded like beating.
Yeah, maybe they follow.
And then see the same car jumpinto the lake.
They hear a sound in the trunk.
So Perry shoots the trunk openand drags out, drags her out of
the lake.
She's dead.
And then we just see Harrypulls down her dress and then
two guys in a mass drive up andthen they kind of look at him

(43:16):
and drive off.
Perry says that they it's likewe're going to have to go to the
cops because in movies that'swhat you do and like, unlike
movies, this is what you do.
But then Harry's like well, youshot her.
He's like what?
It's like there's a bullet holein her head.
Here's the thing I cause.
Look, I'm assuming by themsaying, oh, what's wrong with

(43:36):
this car?
And you kind of hear likethumping a little bit that she's
still alive.
Then Perry shot her.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Yeah, trying to get her out and killed her, cause
you have to shoot the trunk open, so he murdered her.
It's an accidental murder.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
You know he blacked out it was an accident, he
manslaughter.
But I think that's, that's sofunny yeah, it is funny it is
funny in a fucked up way if heif he didn't have to shoot the
trunk, if he just found the keysand opened it, the story's over
sure.
But no, he accidentally shother.
He shot her, not bad and I dojust want to say I don't think

(44:09):
bullets can be shot underwater,go through a car and into
someone else's head while beingunderwater.
It had to be a very powerfulgun, but movies mythbusters
actually, uh, they did likethose huge giant sniper rifles,
yeah, um they shot those intowater they just immediately
explode upon impact on the waterand stuff, so I don't know how
it is underwater.

(44:30):
I'm sure they probably did that, but I don't think guns really
work well underwater right Idon't know.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I know spear.
Spear guns probably do.
Yeah, they're great, they'redifferent, they're made for
underwater.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
So they're all kind of freaking out and thinking
about Harry.
We see him throw Perry's guninto the lake Big mistake.
And then Perry gets super madbecause his mom gave him it.
That was my best gun, perry, my$2,000 ceramic vector my mother
gave to me as a special gift.
You threw it in the lake nextto the car.
What happens when they drag thelake?
You think they'll find mypistol.

(45:02):
Jesus, look up idiot in thedictionary.
You know what you'll find Harry, a picture of me.
No, the definition of the wordidiot, because you fucking are
good man this movie when it getslike going with the dialogue,
it just really crushes.
It's very, very witty and youknow, I think it's just, you
know it's just funny becauserobert downey jr, like he, just

(45:27):
he just seems like someone thatwould constantly be doing this
type of dialogue and talkingfast and stuff.
And it's funny that shane blackwrote such a witty fast talking
script and then was able to getRobert Downey Jr in it and then
, you know, robert Downey Jrbecomes the poster boy at MCU
and all of the MCU talk likethis movie in terms of like,
dialogue-wise and it's justfucking kiss, kiss, bang, bang

(45:49):
made the MCU dude that's.
Oh man, that's true, isn't itwild?
That's awesome.
I wish I said that at thebeginning of the podcast.
It'd be way more interesting.
For people.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
He created Marvel.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
So now they're just kind of driving away.
Perry thinks someone set him up.
He drops Harry off at his hotel.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
That's so funny.
When he's leaning up againsthis car he's like I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
I gotta go.
He pushes him, but when theyfirst get there he's like Perry
go Sleep badly.
Any questions, hesitate to call.
And then Harry gets a call thatHarmony committed unaliving
herself.
He is devastated.
Perry tries to be sympatheticbut then pushes him away from

(46:33):
the car to drive off and he'sjust sitting in front of the
hotel.
Ted to Harry watching Harmony'scommercial.
I suck heads off a fish.
What do I know?
I'm just a bear.
It's just literally her wavingat a bear, turning looking at
the camera waving at a bear.
It's a pretty good commercialthough.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
I would have bought that beer.
It did make me want a beer.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Oh man, I don't like beer anymore.
Oh wow, I only like drink wine.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Nice Because I'm bougie?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
No, I guess I'd have to just drink champagne.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Refined.
No champagne sucks ass.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
I don't care what you say I love the taste of
champagne, but it's the worst ofthe headaches.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, and it coming up, but putting in some orange
juice.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Those are good.
What do?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
they call those Mimosas.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, hell, yeah, yeah, breakfast, alcohol, yeah,
so good.
So, harry, I'm more of a BloodyMary myself.
I was just kind of margarita, aspicy Bloody Mary, ugh.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Ugh Sounds bad.
No, it's good.
Terry, who is drinkingchampagne, gets a knock at the
door.
It's Harmony.
She's still alive, baby.
We found out it was her sisterthat unalived herself.
I love it because MichelleMonaghan is just like talking a
lot very fast.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
And her boobs popping out and he's just like dude,
you got to chill out.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
You're making me nervous.
It's like I was for one secondI thought you're dead and now
I'm happy that you're alive.
But now I'm just nervous.
It's like what's he about tosay?
I kind of wish you were dead.
Now we learned that Harmony'ssister broke into Harmony's
apartment and stole her creditcard.
That'll be important later,sounds familiar.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
And then Flicka told Harmony Harry is a PI and that's
why Harmony came there to askhim for help on the case.
And then she's explaining thewhole thing and her nipple pops
out.
And he just keeps saying nipple.
And he's like I wanted to tellher that it popped out, but
she's just going on about thisstory.
She probably doesn't care.
We learn her sister charged$2,000 to her card and then

(48:30):
eventually, harry agrees to helpon the case because he's in
love, because he lies.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, he says he's a private investigator and he's
just like, he just wants to bearound her.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
So he's like, yeah, sure, and then as soon as he
agrees she passes out.
Nice, so good, so tired, that'ssuch a good bit.
So he puts her in his bed, goesto take off her wet clothes I'm
assuming to do that blanket onher, because you don't want to
go to sleep in white clothes.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
That's how you get sick, that's horrible and it
gets your bed all soggy.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
So it's like as soon as he did it I was like fuck
dude, this is weird.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
But I, you know they always.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
They usually cut this part in movies.
Yeah Right, usually in movieslike this, when someone's like,
oh yeah, like if you don't seeit, you don't think about it,
but then you like see, he'sabout to kind of do that and

(49:23):
it's like this is weird, this isjust.
I don't know, wake her up, Belike take her clothes off and
get under the blanket.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah, you got to shake her a bunch first and then
she don't wake up.
But because Harry?

Speaker 1 (49:30):
has zero luck.
A spider crawls into her brawlA spider, zero luck a spider
crawls into her bra, horriblespider dude and you know what.
He did the right thing tryingto smash that spider.
You don't want to get a spiderbite.
Get it infected in her boob.
I know I just recently had oneon my leg and it was gross and
it sucked.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Yeah, her boob would have rotted off yeah, that would
have been horrible.
I probably would have been morepanicky, and it real hard, and
then she would have woken up.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Well, I would have immediately been like look in
your bra, there's a spider.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Just put your finger in her mouth.
There's a spider.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
I promise we don't have to have this weird
conversation that's about tohappen.
Just look in your bra, Ipromise.
So yeah, he slaps it.
Harmony wakes up and accuseshim of grabbing her boob.
Harmony doesn't care, thoughit's like so.
Of grabbing her boob.
Harmony doesn't care, thoughit's like so what?
You grab my tit, that's life nobiggie.
And Harry's like no biggie.
Is that the type of girl youare?
It's like dude, don't slut.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Don't slut shame.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, and like she's kind of just like why would you
do that, why would you thinkthat?
Lifts her bra just a little bitand they see a spider leg.
He's like you see, and then hegets mad.
I am the type of guy that woulddo that, though it's like what
is your argument here?
Trying too hard, but yeah, soafter they kind of get in a

(50:45):
little fight about you know theline of, is that the type of
girl you are?
He goes to pee and she's likeI'm leaving, can I borrow?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
stuff he pees, then he, while midstream, sees the
dead girl from the lake and itturns around pees on her a
little bit and then it's great.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
And then, luckily, harmony left, and then he calls
Perry dude.
Oh, it's so funny, it's sofunny you can't stop.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Midstream it stings.
Yeah well, you're so shockedit's gonna just make you pee
it's like when someone scaresyou.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
It's like I peed a little.
It's like god like you never.
It's like lucky you didn't likeshoot even harder yeah, that's
what I was gonna think oh man,what a terrible god he just
washed the blood off her face heliterally does everything right
.
So he calls Perry.

(51:39):
He says they have to move thebody because whoever gets,
whoever set him up, probablycalled the cops.
He has to wrap the body and thegun.
Well, he has to wrap the bodyup and find the gun, because
they always plant a gun.
And this is when he's like, hey, harry, I peed on her.
He's like harry, I peed on her.

(52:01):
He's like what?
Wait, let me get the quoteactually, because oh god it's.
I have it pretty close um,let's see where is it.
Where is it, where is it?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I like how he gets.
He tells the truth right awayinstead of trying to hide it,
because the more you lie, yeah,it gets worse um I'll just, I'll
just do the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (52:17):
So you got Perry, we gotta move her somewhere.
You got gloves, harry, excuseme, gloves.
Do you have gloves?
You have to move her.
It's a frame up, some assholeprobably calling the cops on you
right now.
Do this, wrap up the body inthe blanket?
A sheet, anything?
Okay, any particular gloves?
Yes, fine, will you fuckinghurry?
And they're like perry, yeah, Ipeed on it.

(52:38):
What you peed on what I peed onthe corpse.
Can they do like id from thatperry?
I'm sorry you peed on perry onthe corpse.
My question is perry, no, myquestion.
I get to go first.
Why in the blubber fuck wouldyou pee on a corpse?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
I didn't intend to.
It's not like I did it forkicks, just perfect, perfect
little bit, because I'll bethere in four minutes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
It was great, it's awesome.
So he finds the gun, wraps upthe body, harmony and then we
cut to Harmony downstairs.
Here's some cops looking forHarry and she misdirects him.
Yeah, that's great.
She's smart, she's a winner.
Yeah, she's a keeper, she's akeeper.
I love when they throw the bodyoff a roof, yeah, so Perry

(53:26):
shows up and they move the body,they throw it off the roof,
just like hits the trash.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
So yeah, yeah, when it hits the trash can, it's
fucking awesome.
I know it was like, but no like.
Whenever they pulled the girlout of the car in the lake, her
neck was already broken Cause.
He says he's like you shot herin the face, he's like, he's
like is she dead or no, he goesyeah you're right.

(53:57):
So she was already dead Thenhow is?

Speaker 1 (53:58):
what was the noise from the car?
Because they're like the noisefrom the car.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Open the trunk.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Well, if you understand that, broke from
hitting the water?

Speaker 2 (54:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
True, it could have been that case, I don't know.
We'll just say that's it.
I heard the noise in the movie,so, yeah, maybe she already
died from the crash into thewater and then he shot her, okay
, so well, just fuck me soanyway, her corpse hitting the
dumpster because you think it'sgonna land in the dumpster yeah,

(54:27):
and then they miss horribly godrough reminds me of uh, john
wake three.
Yeah, oh, I didn't, I haven'tseen that.
Well, because, yeah, god, yougot to watch those movies.
Just throwing bodies in thedumpsters, it's actually John
Wick's body, nice, so they puther in the trunk.
Two cops drive up, so Perrycomes up with the idea.
Hey, kiss me what.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Let's make out, kiss me.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
He's like no, I don't want to ever done this.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Kiss the man.
No well, today's the day, um, Iwas with my girlfriend.
We snuck into a bar because Iwas underage and she was.
She was she who got in.
But like I had to sneak in, Ihad to jump a fence right, cool.
And uh, we were in the behindthe kitchen and somebody comes
out like an employee and I wasjust like quick, come here.
And it's just that we startedmaking out real hard because of
this movie.
Yeah, he just like walked away.
He's like the fuck.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Hell yeah, dude, that rules, but it's not like he
would have carded me anyway.
Yeah, that's true, but theymight have been like what are
you doing here?
Leave, he's just like a kitchenguy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Yeah, I'm going to have to remember that that was
from this movie.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Snake make it awkward .
I got someone to kiss.
Come here, snake.
He makes it awkward, I kiss you.
So Harmony shows up and askswhat the heck is going on,
because she saw the kiss andthey're like all right.
So we got out of there andsomehow we were able to convince
her that nothing was happeningand convince her that I'm not
gay for kissing a man.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
And I don't know how.
I'm going to tell you how I didthe second one.
That's what I said about that.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Yeah, classic 2000s.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, val Kilmer really gets in there, yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Shoot, give me Val Kilmer from.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Heat, I'll kiss him.
I'll kiss him from the movieHeat, I ain't scared.
He's like Harmony, it's over.
I had a it's over and a changeof heart, change of heart.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
So they dumped the body on the side of the road.
Harry starts blaming, bringingup, like oh yeah, I got to meet
with Harmony to bring up thecase.
And he's like here's the case,her sister killed herself,
that's it, just drop it.
It's funny that ends up beingthat's exactly what happened
Because he's a good privateinvestor, yeah, and then we cut
to day three.
You have Harry and Harmony.

(56:36):
They're sitting and having likelunch or breakfast together.
Harmony's talking about how she, before she left, she got her
sister into foster care and sheconvinced her sister that her
abusive father wasn't a realfather.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
She did get her into foster care OK.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
It makes me feel better and that she made her
think that Johnny Gossamer isher real father.
That's why she was in LA hersister, all right.
We see on the news that thebody was Veronica Dexter, the
daughter of Harlan Dexter, whoowns a, I guess, a mental health

(57:14):
clinic, and was also the personat the party the host of the
party.
Oh shit, because when they havethat little scene they show the
daughter sitting next to thebirthday cake and then they give
a really intimate hug.
Harry and Perry, they meet,they discuss the case, they're
on this rooftop, the killerswere at the party and that's how

(57:36):
they know them.
He tells harry to leave and hetells him that the only reason
harry is there is because theywere using harry to lower colin
farrell's acting rate, becausehe wanted like 10 million or 100
million dollars for the filmthat he's going to be in and so
that they hired this nobody madea big deal about it and that
he's going to get the part justso he can shave a few million

(57:57):
off of Colin Farrell's rate.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Yeah, I wonder if that really is what happens,
because it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
I mean it's Shane Black.
He's in the movie business.
I'm sure he's heard ofsomething like that?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah, I'm sure he does yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Probably happened to like Arnold or Sylvester
Stallone or something.
So and um, so, and then, uh,perry tells harry that he told
harmony that he isn't adetective and he makes harry
really mad.
He's like you can hit me if youneed to and he just hits him
immediately, yeah, and then he'slike.

(58:29):
He's like what are you so upsetabout?
He's like I thought we werefriends.
He's like I'm not your friend.
I'm hired by the producer ofthis film, like I do whatever
I'm told I make bodies disappear.
Yeah I'm not a good guy, whichis kind of one of my favorites.
And then, as uh perry's walkingaway, uh, harry, don't quit

(58:50):
your gay job.
It's such a dumb joke, but itmade me laugh like.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Why does that even matter?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
I don't know I don't know like it's.
Okay, it's just like oh, itsounds like it's funny, so it's
funny if something sounds likesomething, it's immediately
funny.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yes, I imagine, if I had a gay friend, that it would
have to be kind of like that,like because you're close enough
, you can make fun of each other, yeah, and I feel like that
would just happen.
I don't know?

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of any gay friends that
I've had.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
I don't have any like close gay friends, never Okay.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
We never really joked that much about them being gay.
It's kind of like it's a.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
It's a very sensitive subject.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Yeah, for me.
Well, I don't think they wouldhave cared if I did any jokes.
It's just like I'm not.
I don't feel like I need to gothere.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Yeah, I don't know.
It's never been the rightmoment.
Yeah, I would Well, let's stopdigging our hole wrong.
Dig me out of this hole.
Let's get out of this holeThrow, because Harry is at the
airport and runs into Flicka.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
That's the reason we met Flicka early in the film.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Because she's a stewardess.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Yes, and he's essentially just asking for
Harmony's number.
But we learn that Harmony has astage name Allison Ames.
Dun dun, dun.
Harry flicks because it's thesame name on the card that hired
Perry.
He calls Perry to tell him.
Oh, he calls Perry to tell him.
Oh, he calls Perry to tell himabout it, but it's just a

(01:00:20):
voicemail.
He goes to Harmony who is mad,and slams the door immediately
on his hand, cutting off hisfinger.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
That's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Dude, this was the scene where I was like fuck,
michelle Monaghan is hilariousand great.
It's just like her reaction toslamming the door on it and
opening like did I just cut offyour finger?
And they just kind of look downand look up at each other and
it's just like the face shemakes where she's like I am
pissed.
But I'm also like fuck, I justcut off a guy's finger and it

(01:00:50):
was like the perfect little look, it is hilarious.
And then you got Robert DowneyJr, who it was just hilarious.
She's like come in.
And then you got Robert DowneyJr, who's just like pissed off
and just being funny.
He's like can you grab itplease?
Yeah, it's such a good bit here.
And so I guess he came in andhe told her everything because
through a phone call, harmony ishappy that Harry figured it out
.
So Harmony is at a party andthe whole crew from the party is

(01:01:14):
there.
He goes to the party and he'scompletely trashed on pills.
Yeah, the whole scene like himon the phone in the car with her
.
And like there's like a, like ajokes made and he just like
starts cracking up.
He's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
And I'm sure he has a lot of experience in that type
of situation.
Yeah, with painkillers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
So, yeah, he goes there because, like everybody
that was at the party is thereand obviously the two killers
were at the party the kidnappersso they're going to be here too
, because they love parties.
Yeah, so we go to this classic,weird LA party.
You just got a bunch of peoplein glasses yeah, I want to go to
one of those and stuff.
And it reminds me of the niceguys.
Yeah those Because essentially,kiss Kiss Bing Bang was his like

(01:01:57):
I want to do a detective moviein LA, and this was like almost
kind of his rough draft versuswhere he does the perfect movie,
the nice guys, because I dolike the nice guys better than
Kiss Kiss Bing Bang.
Yeah, yeah, but it's like it'skind of funny.

(01:02:18):
You just made the two samemovies, except slightly
different, you know, yeah, butthey do have that weird LA party
where there's like mermaids andstuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yeah, man, I want that.
Yeah, I want that kind of money.
So I want a lady with coveredin, like I want the buffet table
to just be a lady.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Yeah, just be a lady With food all over, hi, all over
.
I hope you bathe.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Bonus points.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I don't matter, like I'm not going to go to a random
party and eat something off ofanybody.
I don't, I don't trust that.
I don't Do you need a spotter.
Like how does this work?
I just need it on a clean plate, that's it.
Just put it on a plate.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Don't dirt, shame these women.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
What?
Okay.
So Harmony pops up, Says hey to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Harry, where'd you get sausage from?

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Yeah, she's got a bunch over there.
So Harmony gives him a tapeit's like the Lord of the cock
rings or whatever, um.
But it's like no, it's justlike a fake tape.
It's a johnny gossamer movie,um, that her sister had, um.
And then so a random girl comesup.
He's like I was in the bathroomand he was totally checking me

(01:03:28):
out and he's like what the fuckare you talking about?
And then there's like thiswhole hundred like gal speech,
where it's like um, it's likeall these girls are so messed up
that somebody, some uncle,their uncle touched them and the
entire world just like turnedon its side and all the people
from the East Coast that wasn'tmessed up hung on to stay in the
East Coast.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
And all the messed up people come down.
They took it up and shook theworld or something and all the
people landed and all the messedup girls ended up in LA.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
And they're making Harmony even more mad because
you know, obviously, with herfather being someone, that
molested her sister.
That sucks ass and obviouslyhit her.
She gets mad.
It's like everyone here whohates Harry.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Raise your hand and then every girl looks, and then
Harry comes up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Obedient bitches are three.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Someone throws a glass, he dodges it, he dodges
it, he dodges it like he saw itcoming.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
That was so perfect.
So I guess Shane Black doesn'tlike LA women.
That's what I'm starting torealize from the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I just, yeah, I just the funny misogyny though, it's
just.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Here's the thing you know what so far in this movie?
Yeah, the women need to sticktogether because every man's
trying to kill them.
Yes, and do something to them.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yes, sorry, harry and Perry.
We need some more girls, girlshere.
They're essentially just likeraising.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Oh, there's a creep here, get them out.
Yeah, hell, yeah, man.
That's all it was, that's great, I love a consensus even though
in this case, harry didn't doanything wrong.
It was just some random girlwas like he's checking me out,
it's like why?
But definitely he's like well,shane Black obviously has some
issue here and this must havehappened to him and he's still
pissed off about it probablyyeah.

(01:05:08):
So Harry, harmony, perry, I'mgonna get back at her with a
movie.
Yeah, they go to watch thevideotape and while watching
they realize Harlan Dexter isplaying Johnny Gossamer.
He is the one that was with themovie crew when they were young
.
So Harmony's sister's like shethinks that's her dad, that's my
dad.
So now that like Perry's likeshit, we got something here.

(01:05:33):
Says he will help, but he's gotto go do a case first,
following a girl out into thepark, and he tells them that
it'll be the first thing they dothe next day.
Harmony's like don't listen tohim.
They're like we're going tosolve this case, no matter what
he says.
And she says, yeah, we're goingto investigate it tomorrow,
don't worry about him.

(01:05:54):
So Harry decides to just chillat the party and then two dudes
come up to rough him up.
They essentially they take himto the bag, they tell him to
leave town, they tear him up.
What were their names?
No, there's like it's Ike, mikeand Mustard.
Here's the thing.
This is the first scene in themovie where I'm like Shane
Black's trying to be too clever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
There's like too much going on between these two
random guys and like it does, itdoesn't work If they they're
pretty dumb, but like I feellike if they were written a
little bit differently to befunnier.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, is this like?
I mean, I get like the I canMike and mustard things Like I
guess this old, I guess this old1950s thing or something.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I guess, I don't know , everybody had nicknames, it
doesn't?

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
work and it's like they're being too funny and like
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
It's just like the dialogue is not really working
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Yeah, but it is funny that they ripped open his
finger again.
Yeah, god dang it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
So Catch a break.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Yeah, and then we cut to.
Harmony is driving Harry backto the hospital, but she spots
the two men who beat up Harry.
Then she starts to follow him.
He's like no hospital first,please just take me to the
hospital.
But she's like she realizeslike oh snap, they're going to
Perry's stakeout.
We have to go, Got to save, wegot to go warn them.

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So she follows him and justlike says hey, does he?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
have a phone though.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Huh, does he have a phone?
Yeah, I don't understand.
Maybe he probably has it offbecause he doesn't want it to
ring.
And the girl, like, looksbehind him.
Maybe.
Yeah, that's just what I'msaying to make it make sense in
my head.
And so she's like she justpulls over, leaves the keys in
the car and tells harry, hey,drive yourself to the hospital.
He passes out immediately.
Yeah, okay, I got it he's likehe's so mad he's had a really

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rough couple days here.
She follows the guys who arefollowing perry, who is
following a pink-haired girl.
I should have used some commasin that sentence.
Oxford, yeah, he um try.
She tries to warn him, but oneof the guys catches her and is
like going to choke her.
He's like shh be easy, baby,just let it happen, baby Just
being just a real douchebagabout it, even though he's

(01:08:04):
choking her.
but it's like you don't have tobe a douchebag about choking her
.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Yeah, you can just kill her nicely, yeah, just like
tell her a story or something.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
But she's able to knock him out with a headbutt.
But she's able to knock themout with a headbutt.
Hell yeah, man, she kicks hisass.
Have you ever headbuttedsomebody like that?
It hurts, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
A lot Not on purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
You have to like hit with a special part on your head
.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Yeah, the big noggin part right here in the middle,
that's where all it's veryporous, kind of like how goats
and stuff Like their skulls areporous, so it helps absorb
impact.
Yeah, so I guess, uh, in movieseverybody is really good at
using that part of their head noman, you do it once and it
hurts a lot, yeah, and you don'twant to do it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Never had it never had it headbutted a person.
I have headbutted doors rails.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
I headbutted a few people and I gave one guy
stitches at work.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I headbutt things all the time.
Yeah, because you know we gotour side shields on so it kind
of blocks your peripheral alittle bit Like blinders.
So you kind of turn and like oh, I didn't realize how close I
was.
Then it pisses you the hell offfor the rest of the day.
You ever have that happen toyou.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yes, yes I have when it starts to bleeding.
Luckily I haven't bled, but itfucking sucks.
Blood sweat and tears forcheese.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I'm pissed off now.
So, after knocking the guy out,she then runs to warn Perry
when she trips and her gun goesoff.
Perry turns around and theother kidnapper was behind him
in the car, going to run himover that was awesome.
Luckily he's able to slide byand the guy gets out with a gun,
but luckily, like a food vendorin the middle of the park has a
gun.

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He's like you, god dang ratscallions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Yeah, man, he just shoots him off.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Fucking love that guy .
I was like do you go to jail?
You just shot a random guy thathasn't shot anybody yet Well he
was shooting at Perry so Idon't think anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I guess they all have a good alibi.
No one gets caught for anything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
It's like, dude, you shot a guy in the back like five
times.
I don't know California's law,but I don't think you're allowed
to shoot people in the backWild, wild west out there.
But I guess he had a gun and heshot it.
So it's like, hey, you're justprotecting the people.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Protecting his fucking food stand, his park
stand.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
So yeah, that guy got shot.
The pink haired girl we see herrun away and she steals
Harmony's car to go home WithHarry in the back, Harry in the
back, baby.
So later we cut to.
Harry wakes up in a garage.
He looks around for anyone inthe apartment.
Here's people come in though,so he ducks under a bed.
Here's the pink haired girl andone of the kidnappers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
One of the kidnappers is trying to like calm her down
, he's like don't worry, youthink they're about to have sex.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Yeah and it's like hey, don't worry, you won't ever
have to worry about this again.
Pew pew shoots her with asilencer.
Um, I fucking love this scene.
That was badass whenever causethe pink haired girl falls to
the floor and is still kind ofalive staring at harry, who's
just like shaking she sayssomething that she's like don't
I know you, or something she'slike who are you?

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Like I know you.
She keeps trying to.
She keeps trying to say, likewho are you?
yeah, and he like puts her handblood, his bloody hand on this
soon-to-be corpse makes all theterrible decisions, yeah, and
then she dies, and then he'skind of shocked, he's in shock.
And he kind of waits so hedoesn't hear any noises, gets
back up from the other side ofthe bed and the silencer is

(01:11:22):
still there and the guy comes in.
He's like getting ready to pullout trash bags and stuff.
And then he notices I was likeyeah, oh well, look if it's not
Mr Tough Guy and he picks up thegun.
He's like's, like oh, you got agun, don't ya?
And then like almost gotCanadian there oh, got a gun,
don't ya?
It's like it's Fargo all of asudden sorry, and then he just

(01:11:43):
like shoots the shit out of thisguy.
Hell yeah man but like it's agreat dramatic tense scene yeah,
it's like I never thought of,like, oh yeah, just it was the
fact that she was still alive alittle bit.
And it's like he wants to helpher, but it's like I'm going to
die.
It's like how could you fuckingdo this?
Yeah, and then he just gets mad.
He's like just kills him andthen, like, after he does it,
it's like, fuck, I just killed aperson for the first time.

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But then we quickly cut to him,making a bunch of more terrible
decisions.
He puts his finger on ice.
He puts his finger on ice, he'sstill in the Pink Hairs girl's
house and then he's going towash his bloody hand out in her
sink and it's like this is notwhat we do in this situation,
you immediately discusomize justhold it in your hand with your

(01:12:28):
finger and then get out of there, dude.
So he then gets a call from.
We see the dog come in, get inthe finger in his mouth.
Perry calls.
He's like Perry, I killed a man, I killed the kidnapper.
He's like, okay, wipe the placefor prints and evidence and

(01:12:49):
then get out of there.
And he's like I can't.
He's like why my prints are onthe dog.
It's like what?
No, my dog has the prints.
It's like why my prints are onthe dog.
It's like what?
No, my dog has the prints.
It's like, well, what?
They're not going to check thedog.
He's like he's got my finger inhis mouth.
He's like, well, just get it,shoot it, kill the dog.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Whatever you got to do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
And then the dog swallows.
It's like, oh, never mind.
But then he gets like Did youimmediately?

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
imagine the dog pooping out the finger and it's
like the Ace Ventura coming outof the rhino's butt.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
I didn't think of that I didn't think of that.
The rhino thing, but I didthink that he might have pooped
out the finger that would be sofunny.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
He just comes out, looks at the points, thinking
boop, boop.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Just running around with a finger halfway up his
butt.
But yeah, then things get alittle dramatic and he tells
Perry I killed a guy and he kindof breaks down because he's
never done it before.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
And Perry don't give a fuck really.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Yeah, he's like I'm sorry you have to get out.
But then the dog comes up tohim and starts whining because
he's sad.
Aw, he's a good boy Harry hangsup on him and then he's kind of
.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
You think Snake would do that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
if he ate your finger , that if he ate your finger I'd
probably just whine to gooutside.
Or just like, bring me a toy,like play with me, I don't care
that you're sad, I need things.
Um so, uh.
Then we cut to the three ofthem talking at, uh, harry's
hotel and they think the case isclosed.

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The kidnappers are all dead andyou know now.
We know everything, I guess.
But Perry still has questions.
Why did Harmony's sister callPerry?
What's up with the Dexterfather-daughter stuff?
Perry says that it's over andlike they're like what?
No, it's not.
There's still so much more.
We got to like probe some moreor whatever we got to sleuth,

(01:14:34):
and then like Harmony kind ofkeeps going on, like we got to
figure more out, and thenPerry's like we need to stop
before you get me and Harrykilled.
Everybody's dying, yeah, so,and then Harmony's about to
leave.
Harry goes back outside.
They're kind of arguing a bit.
Harmony says that she is not asamazing as he thinks and then

(01:14:54):
he eventually confesses thathe's still stuff and he doesn't
ever finish anything in his life.
That's why he made out with herfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
That's a good excuse, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Stole it.
But then she's like all right,I'll come up, but we got to stop
by the bar first.
So they drunkenly go up to thehotel, she undresses and gets
into bed.
Harry, nervous suddenly.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Harry nervous, suddenly thinks about the fact
that Veronica didn't have anyunderwear on under her dress.
His character in this scene isjust like he's trying to be a
good guy, but then his dick isalways in control of everything.
Well, he's like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
I'm just going to sleep on the couch, and then she
gives him the invitation to goon the bed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
He's like okay, we'll see how this she's like, yeah,
but it's just sleep.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
It's like if we'll see, yeah, but it's just sleep.
It's like if it's not awkwardfor you, and it's like, well,
let's find out it immediately is.
But with the whole he's like,wondering, it's like if she's a
born again, why wouldn't she bewearing any underwear Dang,
which we're slowly piecing ittogether?
But after this whole scene,like it fully, she nasty.
So Harry gets into bed withHarmony after essentially being
invited, and they areessentially all both drunk and

(01:15:58):
horny because immediately shecomes up and just like starts
like wiggling all over him,topless, and it's just like it's
like and so he has a boner andhe's very uncomfortable about it
, and it's like dude, shebrought up that you have a boner
.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
And then she's like she's wiggling all over you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
Like I don't think she's going to care about the
boner dude.
No, like, even if y'all aren'tgoing to have sex, I think she's
just kind of she offers to dosomething about it, yeah.
And he's like I don't want to belike a pity fuck, no, I'm too

(01:16:40):
good for that getting it.
He can't finish.
He keeps getting his waychopped your figure off, oh man,
yeah, not that she owes youanything.
For some reason she keepscoming back to you.
It's like you just have to letit happen, man.
And so it's going to happen.
They kiss, it's romantic andthey're gonna have sex, but
harmony has something to tellhim cut to him, kicking her out
because she had sex with herbest friend, chuck chutney.
Yeah, what a name.
Dudes are dumb.
Yeah, they are.
It's like, hey, that was like along time ago.

(01:17:02):
Yeah, like maybe 15 years ago,probably more time to get over
it.
Yes, you're not in high schoolanymore.
Sometimes those high schoolwounds, you know they, they're
deep inside, they are.
They don't go away, they cutdeep.
That's why it completely makeswho you are the rest of your
life yeah, that sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Yeah, we need to have better.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Well, it doesn't like make who you are, but it gives
you all all the trauma, yeah,that you're not going to realize
is going to stick with you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
It creates all those empty spaces.
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
So it cuts her outside of the hotel.
She's crying, but then callsHarry to ask if Veronica was
raped and Harry says no.
So why does she not haveunderwear on?
We'll find out soon.
Day four Harry is waking up,harry.
He tells him Harmony is introuble.
She is investigating Veronicaand apparently Harmony has
solved the case.
But they can't find her.

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I don't know why I whisperedthat part.
Harry tells Perry that theyknow because of the underwear
thing.
They go to Dexter Mental HealthClinic.
They talk to a patient whoshows them that she isn't
wearing any underwear.
The actress that plays thislike the face she makes after

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she, like, takes off her pants.
She's like like she was veryfunny, she's just having fun.
Yeah, she was very funny.
I've seen the actress in manythings, I don't know what, but
that is not the first time.
I've seen the actress in manythings, I don't know what, but
that is not the first time I'veseen seen her in something.
Um.
So apparently Veronica was apatient there.
That means that it's been twodifferent girls this whole time

(01:18:38):
and they believe he hired a girlthat looks like Veronica to go
to court with him and they thinkit's Harmony's sister.
So that's why they think Harmonywas probably murdered by Dexter
now at this point, because shewas paid to act like his
daughter yeah, harmony's sisterwas paid to act like his
daughter and the reasonVeronica's in the mental

(01:19:00):
institution is so that shewasn't going to sue him.
She was planning on suing himand now he can't because she's
yeah, they switched him out, fun.
So they leave and one of theorderlies holds a gun up at him,
at gunpoint, and I love it.
It's like because he's got thegun up to him and Perry's doing

(01:19:21):
all the talking and then Perrysays something that makes the
guy mad and he hits Harry.
He's like I didn't even sayanything.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
He hits at something that makes the guy mad and he
hits harry's like I didn't evensay anything.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Yeah because perry's like you know in movies how uh
they always have the gun pointeddirectly at your back.
Well, professionals prefer ifyou have five feet of distance
between them and then he takesthe gun and then he's like fuck
you, slaps him.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Doesn't feel good when you just get slapped for no
reason uh, so that's an instantknockout usually, yeah, if you
hit someone with a gun in yourhand, yeah, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
If, maybe if you hit him on the I guess it wasn't
directly in the forehead, likethey do in movies sometimes.
So they start to ask himquestions, but he says he
doesn't know anything.
And then they're they, justeverything that they know.
Um, but one thing we did learnfrom this conversation we
learned that they killedveronica because the boyfriend

(01:20:12):
would have spotted the fake uh,which will come up a little
later on why a body's gettingcremated is this the guy that he
plays rusted roulette with?

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
yeah, I guess he's like he puts the bullet in there
because he won't talk.
He's like he just shoots itwith the first shot Is that the
same guy.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
What?
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's thispart, yeah.
So when the guy isn't answeringany questions, Harry gets tough
and puts one bullet in his gunto intimidate him.
But when it goes to pull thetrigger, he actually shoots him
in the head.
It's like there was an 8%chance.
Like what are you amathematician?
8%, 8% chance.
Like what are you a mathpetition?
8%.
Yeah.
And then I love it becauseHarmony calls and Perry tells

(01:20:50):
her to call, like I guess themorgue or whatever about
Veronica's body.
But this whole time he's liketelling Harmony, he's like shut
up and then, like Harry's doingmath, he's like stop doing math,
but he wants her to check tosee if Veronica's body is going
to be cremated.
So then Dexter shows up and hasthem at gunpoint and then, like

(01:21:13):
you got this one really tough,like I guess, like thug guy, I
don't know, it's like one of theheavies and he's patting down
Perry and Perry's just likeconstantly giggling.
And he's like um, um, harmonycalls, uh for a second Perry's
phone and like the guy's gonnathrow him the phone but Harry's
able to snatch it out of the airand send it to magic and he's

(01:21:34):
immediately like help, dexter'sgot us call the cops or
something like that.
And then they get the phone andshe's like pretending to be a
carpet salesman, so good, and hefalls.
He falls for her.
Yeah, it's the middle of thenight and then, like she's
obviously like talking, uh, andit's uh, 40%.
It's like, well, either way,she just they just told like

(01:21:56):
this guy's killing somebody, somaybe you should have to go kill
the carpet lady now.
Yeah, um, so Perry and Harryare tied up.
Uh, the thug is going to shockHarry's balls to find out who
else knows about the case man.
how bad must that hurt?
Yeah, I know.
So we see Dexter getting readyto cremate his daughter.

(01:22:17):
He's like going to take thecasket into a van and drive off.
Perry is goading the torturerinto letting his guard down
because he keeps saying oh, Iknow, you're actually gay.
I can tell it's like this iswhat you want and he's like
starts rummaging his pants.
But, every time he keeps tryingto make the guy mad, the guys is
hitting the electric shockbutton harder on Harry.

(01:22:38):
He's like, stop, I'm not theone saying any of this, oh it's
so funny, yeah.
And then so he starts puttinghis hand like in down his pants,
like, is this what you want?
Is this what you want?
Then bang, bang, bang, bang,bang.
And he shoots and kills himwith his little crotch rocket or

(01:23:00):
crotch gun it was in his pants.
And then he tells Harry's likehomophobes never check there,
man, they should.
Or check the dick RightImmediately In movies.
They usually never show themgrabbing there.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
No, they never do, and they've used this in, like
in Long Kiss Good Night.
They did the same thing, right,I can't remember.
Yeah, because the guy that waslike her trainer, the guy one
hand loose, she reaches in hiscrotch, grabs his gun.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Oh yeah, shit.
I should rewatch that movie.
You'd think more criminalswould have seen these movies.
Yeah, I know they're too badbeing criminals, man, they ain't
got time to watch movies, theyain't got time to check a dick,
yeah.
So outside we see the casketsin a van and they're about to
drive off.
But Harmony hops into the vanwith a casket and drives off.
Perry calls and she says shewill pick them up.

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She immediately passes thembecause she can't stop because
there's a car chasing her.
Now they give chase.
Harmony ends up crashing thevan just a little later down the
road the people chasing her getout to shoot her but she jumps
off a bridge and then Harry andPerry run after and Perry gets
shot and it goes straightthrough him and into Harry.
Perry is unconscious or dead.

(01:24:10):
Harry tries to give mouth tomouth and then like a bunch of
blood.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Yeah, that long blood .

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
See.
The difference between Harrynow and then is that Harry like
just left immediately.
This time he's trying to savehis buddy, save his buddy.
Yeah.
So Harmony calls Harry.
He picks up and she says harold, use your awesome might to save
me from this hopeless night.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
No, that's not what you say when you're dying she's
not dying, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
She just fell.
She's probably just got like.
She felt like 10 feet.
She has head trauma probably.
I love when she's rolling downthe hill.
She's rolling so slow yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
It's like rolling so slow so dramatically.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
So Harry, now with the fire in him, gets up to
finish all this, I'm going tohave sex one day.
Suddenly, Dexter shows up torun him over.
He jumps off the bridge andlands on the casket that from
earlier ended up landing on aninterstate sign and the hand's
hanging out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
Yeah, and the hand hangs out.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
And so he's on top of the casket or he's holding onto
the hand that's in the casketand the gun is stuck on top of
the casket.
As Dexter is about to shootHarry, the gun falls, he catches
it and shoots.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Dexter immediately.
That was fucking awesome.
Yeah, this rules.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
This whole part like holy shit Harry rules.
He then shoots at the carcoming from Harmony shit Harry
rules.
He then shoots at the carcoming from Harmony.
He falls on their car andexpertly kills the two men
easily he's like he's like thereall finished all of a sudden.
We're done it's overeverything's done and then he
goes to Harmony who's worried heis shot.
He shows her that they gotJohnny Gosper book.
It's off the bullet and he'slike puts the finger through.

(01:25:44):
Oh wait, and then starts passingout good bit, good bit, cause
it's like ah, classic, alwaysgetting stuck by like a badge, a
book or something, yeah, um.
Then we cut to the next day andHarmony and Harry are all at
the hospital he's fine.
And then Perry comes in, it'slike, and so Harry the narrator

(01:26:06):
stops everything or just kindacomes up, it's like, and so
Harry the narrator stops or justkind of comes up.
He's like, brings up howunbelievable it is that
everybody lived.
It's like this must be one ofthose third act producer things
where they don't want a negativeending, so they make sure
everybody comes back alive.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
And then he has like everybody comes in and Abraham
Lincoln comes in, and thenAbraham Lincoln comes in.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
And then Elvis, yeah, but.
And then, to essentially wrapup all the plot lines, perry
tells Harmony that her sisteractually killed herself.
The imposter, veronica, wasactually the girl in the pink
wig.
He tells her that her sisterthought that Dexter was her
actual father.
So she went to see Dexter andsaw Dexter with the pink haired
girl.
She couldn't handle that.

(01:26:50):
Her old father and her newfather were both abusers, so she
killed herself.
Yeah, damn, talk about badtiming on going to Dexter's
house, right, yeah.
So, harry, he's walking Perryinto the hospital.
Now they're all friends.
Perry tells him not to stealanymore because he's not a punk.
Oh, and then a hunky hunky nursewalks by and he turns Perry

(01:27:11):
around like you.
Bet I want to turn around.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
He doesn't even know he's gay.
Look at the way he walks.
He thinks that guy's 6'4".

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
And then, and then we get this scene.
They go to Harmony's sistersister's funeral in indiana and
we get a scene of perry slappingharmony's father and putting
him in his place.
Yeah, perry tells him that.
Um, it's like he's the one thatkilled his daughter.
Daughter.
He pulled the trigger a longtime ago.
It just took a while for thebullet to hit her that's fucked
up.

(01:27:39):
It is cool scene, kind of likeretribution for the daughter,
it's just like so wild, because,like you know, like you think,
oh it's ending, we have thehappy ending.
Then it's like well, now we'regonna slap around this guy a
little bit and it's just likewhoa, it's dark, but it's like
hell fucking yeah, at the sametime, right it's like, yeah, so

(01:27:59):
then we cut out of the movie andsees harry telling the story to
a camera.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Harry now works for Perry he's telling the story,
for Harry's got a ponytail forsome reason.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
And he's telling the story for a movie pitch.
Perry tells us to stay for theend credits and for the people
in the Midwest.
We're sorry, we said fuck somuch.
The end that's Kiss, kiss, bangBang baby Fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
Yeah, man, it was a fun ass movie, potentially our
last Shane Black directed movieuntil we start doing some Marvel
movies.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Yeah, cause we'll have to do Iron man 3 eventually
.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
I guess we will run out of movies one day.
Well, I'm totally fine withdoing Marvel movies.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
I just don't know when I want to start doing them.
There's just so many goodmovies, you know it's hard to be
like which one to do.
Um, I love this movie.
This movie is so much fun andit's just well written and just
I don't know.
It's a fun murder mystery.
It's pretty convoluted whichmakes it even better for me.
I like convoluted mysteries andyeah, let's go, baby, give me

(01:28:59):
some of these.
Like.
The last one I rememberwatching was like Confess Fletch
, confess Fletch.
I've never heard of that.
It's just like a Fletch movieyou ever watch.
Fletch with what's his name?
Chevy Chase?
No, damn dude.
We're going to do Fletch.
We're going to do Fletch soon.
So we're going to hop into ourcategory the good, the bad, the

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ugly, the fine.
It's where we talk about thebad, something we didn't like,
the ugly, something that didn'tage well.
The fine, something that didage well.
The good I put Val Kilmer.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
Robert.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Downey and Michelle Monaghan.
They crushed it and I mean youwatched the movie, you know that
they're good, they ruled.
I think this movie doesn't workwith anybody else.
I mean it probably would.
This movie doesn't work withoutRobert Downey Jr.
Yeah, I'm just going to say it.
There's no way.
He just says the dialogueperfectly.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Yeah, and he kind of created his future character,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
I think it's like the first time.
It's like, oh, you can justgive him any script and he's
just going to be able to wit hisway through it.
You know, hell yeah, dude, it'sjust the way he talks.
I love it, he's a fast talker.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
He's really smart.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Something I realized by doing this podcast is I like
to talk fast too, which is why Istumble over my words all the
time, because your brain getsahead of yourself.
Yeah, so what do you?

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
got for the good, just like murder mysteries and
that may even be like, and thatmay even be like.
I think they they age prettywell too Like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
but this is why there's a billion cop drama
shows all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Every episode's a murder mystery.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Sure, but I think this movie kind of does it, does
it in kind of a special way.
How it, when you think, if youthink about noir movies, they've
all got kind of a lot of thesame themes and I think they
kind of hit on all the themes,yeah, um, but kind of make it
modern as well, yeah, modern andshane black's own thing.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
It's like his witty dialogue so for dick guns, yeah,
um.
So for the bad, I put everybodytalks so fast and everybody's
so witty, and I don't have anissue with that, but I think it
makes it harder to understandthe resolution of the film.
I see that, uh, I think themovie probably could have done a

(01:31:19):
little bit better.
Like I just went online and Ilooked up kiss, kiss, bang, bang
and most of the reddit thingwas like wait, I don't
understand how this all got puttogether.
There's like a lot of thingslike that and then people having
to be like okay, I understandit's a little difficult, but
like editing was a nightmare,this, this, this and this was it
and it's like oh.
So I think that people, becauseit's so funny and like snappy,

(01:31:40):
yeah, I think maybe people havea hard time understanding like
all the twists and turns,because there's like five
different twists, yeah andthey're all just spelled out
through dialogue, so it can beeasy to miss, especially when
you're kind of laughing at thesame time of trying to listen.
Yeah, trying to.
Yeah, this is you're trying tolike.
Your brain is not going as fastas it should be but like I

(01:32:02):
didn't have any issue with theresolution, but it just seems
like just from some of the vibeson like reddit and stuff seems
like maybe people had a hardtime understanding the
resolution.
So that it just seems like justfrom some of the vibes on like
Reddit and stuff it seems likemaybe people had a hard time
understanding the resolution.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
So that might be the bad.
Yeah, I don't know.
I never really experienced that.
My bad was like Robert DowneyJr's narration a lot of the
times.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Yeah, it was just.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
It's a noir thing now yeah maybe they had to have it
noir thing though.
Yeah, maybe I guess, but likeit was just I don't know.
I feel like they maybe triedtoo hard yeah, yes, it's made it
really goofy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Yeah, um, the narration did like there's
nothing wrong with goofy but Ifeel like yeah, the narration
doesn't work to the end of themovie.
That's why I say because thenyou see that he's pitching a
movie at the same time, and it'slike OK, so you kind of say it
in the context of a movie, soeverything's a grip, yeah, so,
and I think it's just kind oflike that's what's making it off

(01:32:55):
putting at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
It's like, oh wait, he's explaining, he's explaining
it to producers.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
And that's the narration.
Instead of it's like.
This is just old timey noirstuff.
But I do understand, like thenarration, especially at the
beginning is kind of off-putting.
Yeah, that's really the onlypart that was weird for me was
the beginning narration, Becausewhen I started I was like, oh
yeah, the narration is kind ofweird at the start.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
And like having to backtrack all like that kind of
threw me off a little bit, it'slike they did the same thing?

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
essentially not really, but alright, so the ugly
, something that didn't age well, so much female abuse, yeah
there's a lot of female abuse.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Um, yeah, and I felt like Harmony's character was
just a little too bro-ysometimes, yeah, or like a bro's
idea, it's like ah, she's sofine if I touch her a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
She's so cool with it .
I could just slap her tit,right?
Yeah, she's just cool with mebeing stupid.
It's like I don't know.
It just seems like, especially,you know, now it's like
everybody's like say somethingif something like that happens.
But I don't know, to early2000s, I mean, it's probably
just how it was in la yeah, butI felt like her producers just

(01:34:06):
didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
to me it didn't fit with her character who was
supposed to be Like she'ssupposed to be like super, like
kind of tough.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Yeah, you figured she'd be kind of like fighting
against it, since her sister hadto go through it.
So much, yeah, but I don't know, it's just, I guess she's I
mean, I don't know, just yeah,person of abuse.
Obviously your father hit herall the time.
Yeah, probably, um, is that thesame thing you had?

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Yeah, yeah, that was basically what I was going to
say.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Um and for the fine I put, obviously Robert Downey Jr
.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Yeah, he aged well.
Yeah, he definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Physically.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
And, yes, he looks much better after this movie.
He looks kind of small and weakin this movie, yeah, and that
made me feel a little weird,like I don't know.
Compared to Iron man, maybehe's just a little older in
those.
He doesn't have facial hair.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Kind of always has facial hair Maybe that's what it
is.
Yeah, and he has the classicgoatee from Iron man that he had
in the comic books and stuff,okay, so it's kind of weird
seeing him without it, becauseit's been so long since we've
really seen him without facialhair that much.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Maybe that's what it is.
I did like his character, eventhough he was a fucking idiot
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
No, it's just like I just think you know it's just
cool that his story there was aredemption for him, just in
general, yeah, his.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Why does this change?

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Well, I just mean, like even in real life, oh, it's
like Robert Downey Jr.
You did it, man.
You came back from just youknow, From the brink,
Potentially ruining your lifewith drugs and alcohol, and now
you're.
Everybody loves you.
I don't know anybody.
That's like.
I actually kind of don't likeRobert.
Downey Jr, I'd be like wellthen, I don't want to talk to
you, especially if you're goingto say it like that Did you have

(01:35:47):
anything for the fine?

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Uh, the fine.
I think I kind of touched on alittle bit already, but like the
the mist, like a good smartmystery yeah.
Um murder mystery, like lots ofweird shit in it.
Yeah, it's just right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
That's why those knives out films are so good.
With Ryan Johnson.
It's likeson we don't get those.
Yeah, it's like you just don'tget.
You don't get, or they're not.
They're not what's talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
No one talks about murder mysteries yeah, and I
think that this this movie does.
It does like a murder mystery alot better than a lot of murder
mysteries I've seen lately,like especially Grotesquerie,
bro.
It just goes so many placesit's like too much, but like
this, I think.
Don't even talk to me aboutGrotesquerie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
What I hate is that I'm roped in for season two.
Oh no, the ropes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:39):
I got them again.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
I got to know what's going to happen.
It's like I've never watchedsomething so more infuriating
and just also like, well, whatis it about?
Yeah, I have to go to seasontwo to know what the point of
anything is so I guess what I'msaying is I'm glad this wasn't a
series yeah.
Because it definitely wouldhave Shoot.
But if you gave me like a eightepisode series of Val Kilmer,

(01:37:02):
robert Downey Jr and MichelleMonaghan, directed by Shane
Black, sign me up.
And Michelle Monaghan, directedby.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Shane Black.
Sign me up.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
I'd watch it.
Sign me up For sure.
Horrible, yes.
So that's our first category.
We're going to finish it off bydoing our next category, which
is Double Feature, a movie werecommend alongside this movie.
Did you have anything?

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
Yes, the Saint Hell yeah Fun movie Never seen it.
He's a spy, can't wait to watchit one day.
And he's not even that great ofa, he's kind of a not great guy
.
And the saint too, like uh,even though he's kind of the
saint I'm just gonna say spiesprobably not good guys.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
Yeah, they're not.
You have to be, you have to bedevious and, uh, anything
willing to manipulate everybodyyeah, if your career is based on
deception, it's not going to beawesome.
Man, I really do want to watchit.
I want to watch every ValKilmer movie.
I was a huge fan of him as akid.
Tombstone.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Hell yeah Top.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
Secret.
Now I love him in Heat.
I didn't watch that as a kid,but I watched that earlier.
And then, what is it?
What else is he in that?
I loved him in Batman Forever.
That was my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
Batman movie as a kid that was a good ass.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Batman movie.
I liked that one more than Iliked the other ones, tommy Lee.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Jones as a kid yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Yeah, jim Carrey.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Yeah, jim Carrey, that's what I was thinking of.
It's just a cool ass villain.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
The first 20 minutes of Batman Forever are actually a
really good Batman movie.
And then it just, you know theydid what they just they went
bug ass wild the rest of themovie and it gets all weird, but
it's fun.
It's a fun one to watch.
Oh yeah, I chose the great Coenbrother movie because I'm a
Coen head that's what they callus, I guess A Coen dog.

(01:38:43):
Burn After Reading.
Burn after reading.
That is written and directed bythe Coen brothers.
Stars Brad Pitt, francisMcDormand, george Clooney, john
Malkovich, Tilda Swinton.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
Richard Jenkins.
God damn, how about I never seethis JK?

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Simmons, yep, everybody, and even more people
that you'll be like I know thatguy.
And it's essentially FrancisMcDormand and Brad Pitt.
They own a gym or whatever.
Essentially, Francis McDormandand Brad Pitt, they own a gym or
whatever.
They work at a gym and theyfind a disc containing
mysterious information about aCIA agent ends up and they
attempt to sell it and it justkind of.

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
Oh, and then they have to play dodgeball to save
their gym.
No, that's the other one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:23):
I almost recommended that one.
No, it's great.
It's just because it guys.
It's what Coen brothers do somuch Idiots getting themselves
into situations that's way overtheir heads.
It's so fun, it's the greatest.
It's like what every singlemovie they do is Raising Arizona
, all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Oh yeah, raising Arizona so good.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
I'm going to say we're going to do that one soon.
I was looking for my Blu-ray ofKiss, kiss, bang Bang and it
was right next to RaisingArizona.
I was like I signed, but we'restill in Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
Hell yeah.
So what's our?

Speaker 1 (01:39:54):
next Christmas movie.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
We're doing our last.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Christmas movie of the year, and I'll fight you if
you say it isn't because we'redoing Die Hard, baby.
Yippee, we're finally doing it,we're doing it, we're doing.
It's just nothing but bangersthis month, baby, it's nothing
but good ones.
So yeah, join us for that.
You know, I was watching HarryPotter, watched the fourth and

(01:40:17):
fifth.
No, the fifth and sixth movie.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
That one's just like Die Hard.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
No, but you know it has Alan Rickman in it and I was
just like I love that man, alanRickman's such a good actor.
And I like the whole time I waslike I want to watch Die Hard,
I want to watch Die Hard, I wantto watch Die Hard.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
So that's why we're doing Die.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Hard.
Just do it, because it's AlanRickman's best performance and
he's so good in that movie andBruce Willis is.
It's Fuck yeah man.
So yeah, join us for Die Hardbaby.
I think the Fifth Element is myfavorite Bruce Willis.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
I can see that.
Yeah, fifth Element God, he isso good in that movie.
We should redo Fifth Elementfor the pod.
I'd love to.
It's one of my favorite moviesever.
So, yeah, make sure you join usnext week for that.
It's our Christmas episode.
Hopefully, hopefully I will,because I never remember to say
happy Halloween or MerryChristmas or Happy Thanksgiving

(01:41:08):
in the holiday episode.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
We should make up our own holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:41:11):
Yeah, jesse Day and Jason Day, but it's like Jesse
Day, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot,dot, dot dot and Jason Day, just
kidding.
So make sure you join us nextweek.
Leave us some comments.
At the beginning of the episodewe're like hey, we're thinking
about changing it up.
Tell us if you're for it or not.
There's a link at the top ofthe description and at the
bottom is our email.

(01:41:31):
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We'd love to interact.
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Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
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