No Country for Old Men

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast, where every weekwe recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse, I'm Dakota.
It's a mess, ain't it, Sheriff?
If it ain't, it'll do till themess gets here, because this
week we recommend no Country forOld Men.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Woo.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, so you know, whenever we like talk about
movies, this isn't a type ofmovie we really talk about, so
that's why I think it's reallyfun that you're going to be on
this podcast.
So what did you think of noCountry for Old Men?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I originally when I watched it, which was like on
some movie channel maybe, and Ithink I started it right at the
beginning, or at least when heshoots the whatever the deer in
the field, the pronghorn, yeah,and I just kept watching it and
I really loved it.
My only thing at the time whenI watched it was how it kind of

(01:07):
ended and that kind of left aweird thought that I had about
the movie.
And then, when you suggested itagain, I went back and watched
it and I was like this is justsuch a good movie.
The ending still kind of isthere, but the more I think on
it I'm like kind of like it,kind of don't it's one of those
like I'm half and half.
I get it, but it still doesn'truin the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, it's because it turns out.
Hey, the main character was asheriff who's five steps behind
the entire movie.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Speaking of which one of my notes was, I never title
until the beginning where TomLee Jones talking about like
them, old timers and stuff andhow they would do, like how
would they do in the days nowand they probably couldn't
handle it.
It's like no country for oldmen, they can't handle it.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
It's like oh, I get it now yeah and you know, like
throughout the movie, likethere's constantly like an older
person like needing help fromlike a younger person, whether
Josh Brolin needing the youngguy's jacket and beer, and
they're all like, no, give memoney for the beer too.
And then the greed with uh, thekids at the end with anton
sugar, it's like, oh, he needs ashirt.
But then they're also like, hey, where's my half the money too?

(02:15):
It's also like about greed andstuff like that and like the
emptiness of life, which I'vegot like questions about what's
his character's name again AntonSugar, anton Anton.
Yeah, you know, the greatestmovie villain I ever did.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yes.
Movie villain, I wonder if youhave the same fact about that,
that, I do what with his hair?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
No, oh Well, I don't know what to get to that.
So is it?
Do you just not like howabruptly it ends at the end?
Because usually when Irecommend this movie, like I
remember recommending it toJordan Brown and he watched it
and he's like the ending is sobad and I'm like what do you
mean?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
So this is going to like.
I don't want to be like allsnooty here and stuff, but I
feel like it's something I toldto a friend, shane.
He watched Nosferatu and hesays it's not good and I'm like,
look, I'll take your opinion ona grain of salt, not to be that
person, but I kind ofunderstand movies more than you.
He's like no, bro, it's notblah blah, blah this.
And he's like, okay, I standcorrected because he looked up

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his ratings.
And he's like, okay, it fallsin line with his other movies.
And it's just something Ididn't feel like trying to
explain to him.
Of like because of you, I'velearned to have a different
appreciation for movies and justall the I don't want to be
super hard, but all the schlopwe get now these days of like

(03:36):
super CGI, yeah, and going backinto appreciate what movies were
.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's a really good movie, which I feel the ending
still gets me but what's thedirector's name of Nosferatu?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I forgot.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
But he's directing a Pan's Labyrinth sequel now.
Well, I don't know if it's him.
It did say Nosferatu moviesomething.
I don't know if it saiddirector or someone who's a part
of Nosferatu.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, I know his next movie is a werewolf movie.
Actually he's doing the RobertEggers.
He's doing the wolfman movie no,he's doing like a different
wolf movie next it's gonna takeplace in like the 1780s or
something like that.
Um, because he doesn't want todo movies back in the day.
Well, yeah, like I mean, itmakes sense that you'd like
Robert Eggers because you knowhe doesn't you really use CGI
because you know he's a verylike.

(04:22):
I want everything to look realand as the time that it would be
at, and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You can do CGI and enjoy it.
The only person that I haveknown recently is in CGI.
That I've loved is Dennis.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Villeneuve.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
And they mentioned something about him.
He said the reason their stufflooks so good is because they
like give them like a year ormore to focus on reflections and
everything on like that.
And I was like that's whatmakes cgi go is if you can get
the real world reflections andstuff that adds to it.
Yeah, yeah, um fuck, why did weget there?

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we're talking about cgi and justlike how I like oh yeah, um
back to like the ending like theending still gets me, but the
more I think on it I kind ofjust I get it well the ending it
makes sense, cause I don't.
I'll ask about it towards theend when we get there, cause I
have a question about it that Imeant to look up, but I was busy

(05:18):
with that emulator thing yeah,well, he like the ending.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
The final speech by Tommy Lee Jones is just kind of
an epilogue.
Yeah, the ending is Sugar goingto the wife's house?
That's completing the story.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
It was more on like the Moss's story, oh yeah.
Yeah, but as I thought on ittoday, I was like, oh, he was
talking about, it's going tocome right to me, and he didn't
have to do anything on itbecause I realized what he did.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, I was like, ah, and he was distracted, he was
talking to that girl.
I just lost his distraction foronce.
He wasn't, you know, headingthe game, true?
So what all of the other CoenBrothers movies have you seen?
You'll have to say, because Ican't remember.
So you got Fargo Seen?
Fargo, love, fargo.
Big Lebowski, love Big Lebowski?
Yeah, so there's Blood Simple.
That was the first one RaisingArizona.

(06:09):
You've seen that?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, that was wait, that was Nicolas Cage, right.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's Miller's Crossing.
That's like a goodoro in it Nowyou say, good, irish gangster.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Anytime I think of a gangster film, I think they're
Irish, I can't remember.
I think of Scorsese and I'mlike, oh, that'd be good to
watch.
I'm like, do I have like twoand a half hours to sit there?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh, they don't make movies that long.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
He did, he made that last one, whatever.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
It was, I don't even know what their longest.
I think True Grit is theirlongest.
They got O Broly.
Where Art Thou Lady Killers?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
I didn't know they did that.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I love that movie.
Burn After Reading Serious man,true Grit Inside Llewyn Davis,
hail Caesar and the Ballad ofBuster Scruggs.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
They did the Ballad of Buster Scruggs in that, just
like the one where you got JamesFranco first time.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I don't think I finished all that.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, I loved the James Franco thing and I loved
Buster Scruggs.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, I loved that.
I thought that was so great.
What did you think about theLiam Neeson one?
Which one was that one?
It's the one with the kid withno legs and arms.
I don't think I saw that one.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I didn't get to finish it all, the last thing
remember was the dude diggingfor gold, and that was it
because after buster scruggs Iwas like I want more of that.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Um, you should have seen the liam neeson one,
because I think the gold one'slike one of the last ones.
Well, I can't, I just can'tremember.
It's been a minute since Iwatched it so something about no
country that I really liked nowthat I remembered it by talking
about coen brothers movie.
So I love when they show youprocess in movies, and this
movie is all about fuckingprocess is.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
That's probably why you love that one movie that
came out with from david fincheruh the killer.
Yeah, yeah, I watched that.
And now when I first watched it, I would not recommend watching
it.
You know, messed up, becausesometimes when I watch it my
span's not there and I have moreappreciation for details when
I'm sober.
And also was watching it when Ihad the lower version of

(08:07):
netflix for like 720, and it's adark film so everything was
kind of pixelated so I couldn'tenjoy it, but I was like I need
to go back and watch it yeah, Ilove that movie.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's kind of slow and methodical, like this movie is
but I wouldn't say as slow.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Um, because it's the.
I think it's because you justhave more characters in no
Country for Old Men and in theKiller you just have Michael
Fassbender.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And I recommended that movie to Shane because I'm
like you know, like all thedetails and stuff, I was like
this is probably what you canget really close to of an
accurate person hiding theirsteps.
Yeah, and that's what I love,because I still think about like
the airport scene from thatmovie where he thinks he sees
someone and like changes hiswhole flight and everything like
that.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, it's like that's that's that's good, yeah,
um, but yeah, like in this one,just so it starts off when you
see anton sugar and everythinghe's doing, how he's just going
murder to murder, murder.
But then you have josh brolin,where you see him hunting and
then you see him working outlike oh tracks in the field.
He follows blood and then hesees another trail of blood.

(09:06):
It's like, oh, there's a dog,now let me follow that dog's
trail.
Then he goes and he searchesall the trucks and everything
and I don't know.
It's just I love that.
And then whenever they're inthe hotel room and you have him
pushing the suitcase, all thatlike details and everything, and
then you have it just supposedwith anton sugar going in and
like, okay, so I'm buying, I'mbuying this room.
It's going to be the same as theroom I'm going to go into.

(09:27):
So like, kicks open the door,it's like, all right, there'd be
a person there.
So I'm going to probably hidebehind this wall.
That was so good.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Cause when I watched that scene and he's feeling the
frame I was like was he tryingto God?
That's so good, it's so smart.
One thing I noticed about thismovie there's no music.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, there's no score.
It's only like in certain partswhere it kind of raises.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah and you don't even notice it and I was like I
really like that one because itmakes me focus so much more and
doesn't take me out of it and Ifeel like you know everything
now kind of just blares music atit at wrong times, but you can
do it in a good way and I'm justsitting here.
It's like you hear the nature,you feel like you're there.
Yes, that's what I loved aboutit and like uh, it didn't have

(10:10):
like I don't know what kind offiltering or stuff they did to
it.
It's all good Cause.
I was like this feels like alike it's obviously not real
world brightness because youknow it's more like cloudy day
type of thing.
But they amped up thebrightness.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
It feels like everything's covered in dust,
yes, and it's good.
Well, the Coen brothers aresome of the oh brother, where
art thou, you know, the filmgrading, how it's like very like
yellow and goldish.
Well, that was like some of thefirst time people were really
doing that and they kind ofstarted it, which I love and
also hate, because now movies dotoo much in shows.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, kind of started it, which I love and also hate,
because now movies do too much.
And so there's the thing oflike people do like oh, let's
just add this on here withoutunderstanding it, and they just
put it on there Like no,appreciate what it is, don't
just think I can just slap it onthere and be good yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
So this is originally a book by Cormac McCarthy.
I don't know if you know muchabout him, but he did like the.
The Did you.
I don't know if you know muchabout him, but he did like the.
Did you ever watch the moviethe?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Road, it's got.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Viggo Mortensen in it .

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I believe that's not the one with the kids and stuff,
is it?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's got a kid and it's a post-apocalyptic and
stuff oh.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I've heard of it.
I haven't watched it.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
It's one of those ones I need to because I like
Viggo Mortensen.
Yeah, it's also a really goodmovie.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I'm not as good as this it's not a kronberg film,
since apparently he loves him um, but yeah, I actually read the
book.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's.
It's fun because I can see howthat book would become a movie.
No country for old men.
Because he wrote it like ascript essentially, you know,
just without like it's notthere's like it kind of writes
out all the dialogue and stuffand it like when I started I
only read like half of it and Iwas like, oh shit, this is the
movie.
So they do have like a lot ofother stuff.

(11:49):
Like when he's going to El Paso, brolin picks up like a
hitchhiker and that's the girl.
Essentially that's at the pool.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I can see why you got that out.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, definitely, I think the stuff they cut out.
It's like sugar takes the moneywhen he gets it from Brolin he
takes it to like the person whooriginally owned it and stuff
like that.
So it kind of ties off some ofthe things that maybe the movie
doesn't.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
But I think the movie kind of like.
There's probably like I couldsee the book just having like
the way, like the way you saidit was written.
Not finishing certain thingsworks for the movie.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
And I think that just , I mean, the Coens are always
about people, just elaborateschemes and events happening,
but it's like what's it allfucking for Nothing?
It was all pointless.
All these people died for noreason.
Fargo, I mean, that'sessentially all.

(12:50):
Fargo is all funny, it's greed,like you said earlier, and it's
like it's all pointless becauseit's always going to end up
back where it's supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
That well, that's the thing is.
People will get what they want,doesn't matter where it's going
to get the the perfect movieand it's.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
It's like one of the best endings of a coen brothers
for me, because of what alltheir movies are about, it's
burn after reading.
You have JK Simmons.
He's this.
He's like a high person in thegovernment or whatever, and it's
like at the end he's like.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
he essentially explains the plot and he's just
like what the fuck was what didwe learn about this?
I love that movie.
It's kind of what all thesemovies are.
That was a movie that I waslike can we get more?
George clooney, being like thisis so funny.
There's certain things, likewhen you watch a movie like I
want more of this, and like Iwatched a demolition man
recently, oh yeah, and I waslike man wesley's.

(13:35):
Obviously it's a goofy movie,but it's good.
Cheesy or classy cheesy is whata co-worker said, and I was
like, yeah, it's like fun, likethat.
Yeah, I, I was like man.
I wish these snipes kind of bein a nutso.
Yeah, it's so fun.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Well, I want more movies like that with certain
actors, but I don't know.
I just like movies that kind ofalmost make me feel empty at
the end of them.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't feel, I didn't feel empty it, just it
makes sense.
Money drives everyone.
They will get what they want.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
And then, especially Anton's character, which did he
work for the cartel or Well, hewas hired by the guy Stephen
Root, the guy that is in Barry,the guy in the office building.
Ok, stapler, yeah, stapler guy.
So he was hired by him, but healso hired other people to help

(14:28):
him get it Cause.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh, those two that were there at the beginning with
Anton.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
And Carson Wells and yeah, so he hired a whole bunch
of people and then, you know,sugar killed him, cause he's
like well, you didn't think Icould do this?
Essentially.
Cause could do this essentiallybecause he broke the rule.
I'll get my quick fact outabout anton's character.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, cool go ahead because we're hopping into facts
right now.
Yeah so, uh, a psychiatrist andhis colleagues concluded the
first one, yeah, that hischaracter uh, javier brodim's
character uh is a realisticportrayal, portrayal of a
psychopath the most likerealistic ever.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I guess it was in like 2018 when they did the
study and it was an article inBusiness Insider, and they
studied 400 movies andidentified 126 psychopathic
characters and they said this isthe most accurate.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Didn't they say like Patrick Batemans from American
Psycho was like not the most,was like one of the lower ones?
Really?
Yeah, I think that I can'tremember exactly, but I think
they said that because obviouslyhe's like extreme, more than
psycho he's.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
he's psychotic and other thing, and the thing is
like watching some Netflixdocumentaries and stuff like
that.
I'm like he's not too far off,no like, but he's too like quiet
and in tuned with him.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, he's, uh, more than like what you would see,
like what you see with like thekiller and dexter morgan they're
psychopaths but obviouslyrealistic and he's like more of
like the like they said the morerealistic take.
So that's how I see it.
He's like someone who's verysmart and knows his stuff and

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he's just who he is and he doesit so well yeah and Shigeru.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
it's just like you know, like I've known people
where it's just like you got totiptoe around what you say
around them.
And it's like with Shigeru,it's like you don't know what
you could say that will tip himoff, like know what you could
say that will tip him off.
Like the guy in the grocerystore.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Oh my God, I was so nervous.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I was like uh, uh, uh the guys is like I just asked
you, like I just asked what,what the weather is like I felt
like like this I'm so tense, andthen he just he couldn't dig
himself out of the hole.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Everything he was around like what do you?
Because he, he's like he's aperson, no, nonsense type of
thing.
He's like you heard me, stopdoing the like.
You know, when someone sayssomething to you and you're
trying to register what it isand you're like huh, and you're
like oh yeah, and you catch upto what it was, he knows it's
like no, you know what I said,yeah, and plus.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
It's like you could see, like the more like he once,
soon as he has the upper handon him, there's always like this
, almost a little like smirk,because he, like you, can tell
that he loves the fact that.
How uncomfortable and scaredthey are.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh yeah, he loves.
That's the thing aboutpsychopaths.
Uh, they see people like youknow psychopaths.
The first thing you see is theytorture animals, yeah, and that
leads to believe in at least mymind is that psychopaths see
people.
They're not.
They don't see them as people,they see them as animals as well
.
That's why they can understandpeople so well.
It's like you're animals and Iunderstand animals.

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Yeah, and that's why I thinkhe's like I like the fear,
because he's someone who likesto play with his food His food.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
But he, he does With a flip of a coin.
Yep, damn Two-Face, two-face,which is ironic because Tommy
Lee Jones played Two-Face.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
It all lapsed back together with Kevin Bacon.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah.
So in the novel Sheriff Bellsays of the dope dealers here, a
while back in San Antonio theyshot and killed a federal judge.
Cormac McCarthy set the storyin 1980, and in 1979, federal
judge John Howland Wood was shotand killed in San Antonio,
texas, by a freelance contactkiller, charles Harrelson,

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father of Woody Harrelson, who'sin this movie.
Like In real life, I guess what?
Yeah, I don't know.
That's just what the notes.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
That's what the facts is.
It was one thing I thing I waslike, oh, woody Harrelson's in
it.
And then when he met Anton Iwas like, oh no, he gonna die,
cause anyone that crosses hispath is just like well, cause
you just like you immediatelymeet Woody and it's like fuck,
he's so fun, I love himimmediately.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
And he's like, just like he does more talking than
almost anybody at that point insuch a short amount of time,
because everybody's like yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Like an old man, like country stoic crap.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Uncle Ellis.
Yeah, I just thought that wascrazy.
I was like whoa, no way, that'sso fun that he's in this movie.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And it's bad because, like anytime I see like an
actor, I'm like, oh, what wasthe last thing I saw them in?
And the last thing I saw WoodyHarrelson in was Venom 2.
Yeah, and I'm like, so badwasted potential.
Like you have the perfect actor.
Yeah, someone who was fromNatural Born Killers, because
when I first saw that movie andthat's what they wanted it to do
.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
They just didn't do it.
Well, they couldn't.
They wanted to keep that PG-13rating, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
When I saw Natural Born Killers before Venom even
had a movie I saw this and I waslike he would be an amazing
Cletus Kasady, yeah.
And when I heard they cast itbut I was like, oh no, they're
not going to get to take fulladvantage of it.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
So when directors Joel Cohen and Ethan Cohen
approached Javier Bardem aboutPlan Sugar, he said I don't
drive, I speak bad English and Ihate violence.
The Coens responded I speak badEnglish and I hate violence.
The Coens responded that's whywe called you.
Bardem said that he took therole because his dream was to be
in a Coen brothers film.
Well, he did a really good jobbecause, well, I think he

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portrays that he's like kind ofuncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And it's just which that maybe that
uncomfortableness is like comesoff odd and strange.
Maybe it's like one of thoselike not in your element thing
and you learn to look into itand you have more of an
objective view on it.
Yeah, versus like idolizing,because you know, everyone
watches documentaries and stuff.
Maybe he just like I don't likethis stuff.
He did his research or if hedidn't, he did his own portrayal
.
Yeah, and he did it.
Well, because he's like this ishow it'd be.
Oh no, it's not like that,because they don't try and add

(20:26):
in their extra flair of whatthey think someone is.
Because you know, peopleidolize serial killers.
They put this different spin onthem, like Dahmer had fans and
stuff and it's like obviouslythese people don't understand.
Like the mind of someone likeoh, you did this, I love you,
blah, blah blah, because theylike anything, like there's
certain like attractive serialkiller, someone that kills
someone.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
They always have that weird like like making Dahmer
hot yeah, that was, that was,that was weird similar haircuts,
true, not too far away from thehaircut um which I do actually
have a fact on his haircut.
So um, the Coen brothers used aphoto of a brothel Patreon to
taken in 1979 as a model forAnton Sugar's hairstyle, and

(21:10):
when Bardem saw the hairstylehe's like oh no, I won't get
laid for the next two months.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
His last thing I saw him in was in that the Menendez
brothers show.
Yeah, and I was watching it andI was like like watching the
show was good because the actorslike there was two actors in
that that I thought did the best.
It was one of the menendezbrothers.
Uh, because he's in, he's ingrotesquerie that.
That guy he does a really goodjob.
He's probably gonna be typecastnow because he does crazy.

(21:37):
He just constantly has beendoing that he does crazy person
very well.
And then javier broden was in itand I'm like I really like him.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I need more movies with him where he's like the
lead or some kind of like maincharacter yeah, I'll have to um
find some for you, becausemainly this movie is what I
watch him in, and, of course,the Dune series.
Now, yeah, he's good in that.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
but like I want more of him because he's just, he's
got his little accent and hisdeep voice and the way he
portrays he it just gets meevery time I'm just in it.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yeah, so I guess when they were filming on location I
don't know if you've ever seenthere Will Be Blood.
It's the Daniel Day-Lewis movieand it's like all about oil and
essentially about greed.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
I've been meaning to see that because I went on a
kick for a little bit, because Iwas like, oh, 310 to Yuma and I
watched it and it was notterrible.
It's just not what I wasexpecting.
I was expecting like this typeof movie, yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
No, that's like a fun .
Yeah, it's more fun Westernyeah.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
And so that kind of took me off and I was like I
need to really watch True Gritand there will be blood fun.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
There will be blood.
It's slow, it's these moviesthey're kind of have similar
themes.
Honestly, the two movies andthey're both up for the best
picture academy award and you'reeither team there will be blood
or team no country for old men.
But but anyway, so like whilethey're on location in marfa,
texas, the movie there will beblood was shooting nearby one
day while filming a wide shot ofthe landscape.
Directors uh joel and ethancohen had to uh halt shooting

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for the day when a giganticcloud of dark smoke floated
conspicuously into view.
Paul thomas anderson wastesting the pyrotechnics of an
oil derrick.
Uh derrick set ablaze on theset of the film.
Cohen's resumed filming thenext day when the smoke finally
dissipated.
Um a year and a half later.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Both films were leading contenders for best
picture back when we used tohave like really good movies,
that uh, because like uh, theoscars and stuff are coming up
and I'm sitting here thinkinglike what has come out, that I'm
thinking, oh man, they're gonnahave a hard choice to choose
from yeah I feel like we don'twe get like I was telling, um,
it's a shame we're watchingdemolition.
Man, I was like think about thetime when Spielberg and all

(23:47):
these directors had been risingup and all these good movies we
got for a long time.
Yeah, now we don't get that.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I feel like is like 2007 was probably one of the
best in of our time, like one ofthe best movie years there is.
Because you have Zodiac therewill be blood, no country for
old Men, michael Clayton.
You may have not seen it and Ican't even remember what the
fifth movie that was nominatedthat year.
Well Zodiac wasn't evennominated for Best Picture and
it's like one of my favoritemovies ever made.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I sitting here thinking about that.
That does make me think,because around 2010 is when we
started getting the MCU stuffand that's when it started going
down.
It's just too much of studioswanting to replicate that money
and which that's kind of whatthey've.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
They've always done that throughout history of
Hollywood.
But it's just more amplifiednow with streaming, which sucks.
Truthfully.
Streaming's what's kind ofmessed.
Everything up now, there's justtoo many movies, there's just
movies, and sometimes the bestmovies you never heard about
because the streaming servicedidn't even tell you about it
until it just it's out.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
It was like Conclave I had only seen.
The only reason I'm seeing itis because I've been.
We were on Peacock watchingTraitors and I was like, oh,
I've seen some stuff on it.
And then I looked, I was likethis is why is this?

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, it's being nominated for everything it's
like yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Like I still want to see.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Heretic and I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Well, there's something I thought I read about
A24 having some kind of delaywith Max, because it's kind of
like stars will get Spider-Manbefore Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah, I think they have something like that, but I
don't remember Well, and yeah,or maybe Netflix will get it
first because it's Sony but Iknow that because Netflix is a
Sony company essentially or theyget all the Sony movies first.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Oh, speaking of some Sony stuff, I saw something.
I don't know how much itaffects, but Sony's going to
stop production of Blu-ray discs.
I don't know if that meant likefor copying or like physical
all together.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
I just heard you murder me.
Yeah, so we're just all goingto have to get our stuff from
like Arrow video and all thosethings.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Oh, thank God, you said that because I was sitting
here I was like, man, thatpirate hat is going to be coming
out.
Because I'm all about owningphysical stuff, at least owning
it and not having to stream.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Because you know everything I've been doing
lately.
This is going to be all theselike kind of side companies that
we're going to have to go to toget through our films now.
So we'll just do two more facts, and they're both about Josh
Brolin.
So Josh Brolin was working onGrindhouse in 2007.
When he became drawn to therole of Moss in the film, he

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asked Grindhouse director RobertRodriguez if he could borrow a
video camera for his auditiontape, and he ended up having his
audition elaborately shot withthe theatrical camera they were
using, directed by QuentinTarantino and Marley Shelton as
Carla Jean.
When the Coen saw Brolin's tape, their response was they love
the lighting.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I wish, I would love to see that.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's so good.
And then one last thing aboutJosh Brolin.
So Josh Brolin broke hisshoulder in a motorcycle
accident in two days aftergetting the part in this film.
In an interview with NowMagazine, he recalled thinking
fucking shit, I really wanted towork with the Coens as he flew
over the car that hit him, oh myGod.
His injury, however, turned outto be a non-issue, since his

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character is shot in theshoulder very early in the film.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's funny when that stuff happens, because that time
I got in a wreck with Tylernearby and I did a Spin around.
I saw it's just weird whenadrenaline kicks in and I Spun
around and I saw Tyler's Rearview.
In the rear view I saw hisBrake lights hitting All I could
think as I was spinning Like ohfuck, fast and furious.
I'm living A quarter mile At atime.

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I was living In a ditch At thatmoment.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, alright so we're going to hop into the plot
.
So we're in West Texas.
It's June 1980.
It's desolate, wide, opencountry and Ed Tom Bell, played
by Tommy Lee Joe, laments theincreasing violence in a region
where he, like his father andgrandfather before him, has
risen to the office of sheriff.
But we learn later, it's alwaysbeen violent.

(27:42):
It's just like the classic whatthis movie is.
And once it gets to uncle ellis, it's just um, which is the guy
who has the bad coffee and allthe cats?
Yeah, he's like.
It's always been hard.
This country's this hard onpeople.
Yeah, it's like.
No matter what, likeeverything's gonna progress and
it's always gonna be hard,there's always some weird serial
killer that's killing somebodyespecially, especially back in

(28:02):
the day yeah, and honestlyyou're just not aware of it as
much.
I will say the 70s and 80s were.
You know that we had a lot ofwell, like crazy killers.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
All the documentaries me and my girlfriend have
watched, we sit there and talkabout.
She's like how did this happen?
I was like no cameras you couldlike if you all you had to do
was just think a little bit andyou could not get caught yeah
it's not like, like, I say's notthat hard, but if you just
didn't do the typical, go backto the scene of the crime, um,
stay in your area, nothingbehind didn't leave a mess.

(28:32):
Yeah, Like if you even if youstab someone to death, you could
, if you did it night, went home, washed up to some rando
stranger.
Like yeah, to some randostranger.
Yeah, it's like you.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
That's what made the Zodiac killer so prominent,
probably get away with it,unless you just left one
fingerprint and they finallyfound it 20 years later because
of the technology.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, but that's if they, that's if they kept it, if
you left it if you didn't like,if you stabbed someone and
didn't leave it, if you're notin the registry.
But of course now that's whythey did those.
I don't know if you remember inelementary they did the
identikit things.
Even cops came by and theywould take your thumbprint and
it would be like a littleidentity thing for your parents.
But I was like, well, that putsyour thumbprints also in the
system.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I was like that's kind of smart because if you do
something later on your prints.
During the monologue, whilehe's talking about violence and
stuff and how hard the countryis, we see Anton Chigurh.
He's getting arrested with hiscattle gun killer, man, man.
After the monologue, we seeAnton Chigurh he's in the police
station.

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You just see him.
The guy's just having like aclassic Cohen brother I'm just a
country sheriff.
I'm just talking on the phonehe just slowly gets up.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
He had some respirator thing there.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, and he like steps over the cuffs, which is
impressive as being that giantof a man.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Oh, yeah, like you.
I thought I was like he doesn't.
I mean you can do it, cause he,he goes, he stands up, does it
and then it doesn't.
He sits back down, which givesyou more range, and he obviously
he knows he just does it.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I don't know how many times it took them to film that
.
Well, I mean, I don't know.
That should be a movie I shouldwatch up like behind the scenes
on, because I would love to seelike behind the scenes for Coen
Brothers.
And so, after the monologue, wesee Anton Sugar choke the
deputy to death.
What an opening scene.
Right, it's the scuff marks,right?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Yes, that detail is so good, that detail is so good
and like one thing to say islike when it takes like five
minutes to actually likesuffocate someone and him doing
it with like the handcuffsbleeding him out too, and just I
think that's also like the mostemotion cuts through his

(30:40):
jugular Emotion you see onAnton's face, and that's the
only time he ever does anythingwith his hands as well?
Yeah, because we don't reallysee him have too much emotion
from there until he gets hit bya car.
But it's also like you show.
It shows that he may be apsychopath, but he's also like
struggling, he's just like doingit.
He's not someone who's justblank faced still a real person,
and that's what it would be, islike he's doing it and he's

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just like you inconvenienced meand you're paying for it and he
gets done.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
he just gets up and he's yeah good yeah, and it's
just you know we're not havingthe music and just seeing the
scuff marks and like hearingthem like pitter patter on the
ground while he's gigging.
I actually did in my editingclass we were supposed to do
like a scene and like talk aboutit in front of the class.
I picked the one where they'redoing the chase in the middle of

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the night at the hotel, um, andyou know it's the shootout
between the two and I was justlike, oh yeah, that's a great
movie to do, since there's noscore and it's like you can
really focus on like the tippytaps of people's shoes and stuff
, all those little details, butit makes it like scarier and
then when there's like a gunshot, it's like oh, it's

Speaker 2 (31:43):
like oh yeah that's how it'd be in real life.
I still think about that scenewith the first, the cattle
killer.
I'm like, oh my God, that islike a crazy thing to use.
Yeah, but it's perfect.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
There's no bullet, there's no, anything Now I don't
know realistically if like andyou're in Texas, where everybody
has one problem.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, well, like it was funny because when we
watched we watched it recently,the Skarsgård one, and it was a
scene with like he was shootingthe cat, supposed to shoot the
sheep with that, and girlfrienddidn't know what that was it was
like, yeah, that's the thingand the only reason I know about
it is because of that, becauseof the country.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, it's funny, I seen one before really.
Yeah, um, never seen it used,but like it's like.
You know, I knew some peoplethat had like pigs and cows and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, well, I mean he was, and then the explanation
on it later when he talks aboutit like so yeah, you can't trust
a bullet because it willricochet yeah because they say
pigs heads are really thick andone cow heads.
Yeah, all the animals obviously, all their heads are really
thick.
And that makes sense to havethat, because it's just a quick.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
So then we cut the sugar.
He's pulling over a car and acop car Step out of the car.
So I love his accent.
He's like a fucking the.
His hair is the the Skittlescommercial when they are no
berries and cream.
Got the hair and it always theSkittles yo, and it just always

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reminds me.
It's like, oh man that'sexactly.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
You know.
I always think he's Irish.
I see that and I just think ofthat hairstyle.
It's like this weird dude.
And then no country for old men, dude yeah, and we see him.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
He fills him with a bolt gun.
He's like here could you juststand right there and he's just
like what is that?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
He doesn't give him a moment to like talk more and
they're like what is that?
And?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
yeah, it's great.
And you know, like classicthing when like people are like
oh, in that situation I would dothis.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Like when you're pulled over by a cop you don't
know what's going on and younever expect that you're about
to die.
This isn't real.
This is fake.
Everyone does it.
It's the 80s, like no one everthinks about this small town.
Small town 80s nobody watches abunch of stuff.
Killers weren't likeprominently on documentaries and
stuff when all these serialkillers were happening.
That's when, like, everyonestarted like we gotta start
latching our doors andeverything like that.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
They always say back in the that you didn't get yes,
yeah so then we cut to luellamoss.
Baby, he's hunting prog horn.
Uh, worst part of the movie iscgi deer.
It's bad, I didn't even thinkabout that.
Yeah, it's terrible.
Um, also sorry if you hear somemusic in the background.

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Uh, there seems to be a partygoing on somewhere nearby our
house, um, but so he comesacross the aftermath of a drug
deal gone awry.
You got several dead men andsome dogs and a wounded Mexican
begging for agua.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
I don't know what it is about that scene but coming
up to, because most of the timeI feel like a movie would be
like he walks up and he seespeople talk and then you just
start seeing shooting happen.
But he just it's the coming upto the aftermath, which when I
watched I was like, oh, thisechoes at the end.
You come into the aftermath,yeah, and I was like I don't
know why, but I like it justseeing, like I like

(34:54):
interpretations because I liketo be imaginative with it and
thinking on it in my head.
It adds more to me because I canthink on it and imagine it
differently and it's just, youknow, you get to add your own
spin.
Yeah, like mysterious creaturesand stuff.
I love to think about it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Well, and it's also and especially for me, because
I've seen this so much, it'slike I love to like look at the
bullet holes on the guns and,just like you know it's, they
walk you through this wholecrime scene so well that you're
picturing what happened and it'slike you don't even really need
to see it because, like, youhave this great scene and you
have it also playing out in yourhead at the same time.
Fun fact Grand Theft Auto 5,there's like a Easter egg where

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they have this whole setup, andI remember coming across it and
I was like what is this?
Well, like, is this supposed tobe a mission?
They're like it's a no countryfor all men set up.
And I looked around I was like,yeah, there's dead dogs
everywhere.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Oh, that's right, yeah, and we're getting a switch
to a whole new console beforeGrand Theft Auto 6.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, it's going to be crazy.
So he's kind of looking around,he's like, oh, he goes to
search for who did this or wherethe money is.
It's great because we see howsmart he is and how his
experience at war is helping himAlso.
We just saw evil and now we arepotentially seeing a man that
is smart enough to combat him.
It's the only man in this wholemovie that gets a shot on him.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
So just thought of this.
So Anton's character is alreadyon the way.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Right, Um, yes, potentially.
Well, like I think he may belike getting a call now or
something like this.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well, I guess, I guess you do.
When um Moss shows up, they arekind of like because one guy's
eyes were like faded.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Dead eyes were like faded, yeah, dead.
So they, I guess a date.
Probably some time had gone byand not hearing anything.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
He probably had already called yeah, I assume
this was the night before.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah yeah, um that dude guy asking for agua.
I was like just I have a thingabout that.
What just going back, dude yeah, yeah, we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
We'll get there at that point I know so um, we see
josh brolin.
He then comes across a treewhere he finds a dead guy in two
million dollars in a satchelthat he takes to his trailer
home and hides a gun and thesatchel underneath his house.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I love uh, shane brought up a good point about
movie people.
You think about josh broiland'scharacter?
He's in a trailer.
He is in that world low class,but how smart he is would be a
genius like someone like thathere but it adds to like this
guy's pretty smart for someone,but in real world you think

(37:38):
about it.
Be an idiot.
Gone already, yeah, uh in thatworld.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
He's well, he's.
I don't know he's experienced.
I would say I don't know howsmart he is, because he
obviously took the money and helike won't give up.
But that's also probably alittle bit of pride, and it's he
lives in a trailer and he wantstwo million dollars, dude,
which doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
If he knows there's two million, he counted the
stacks.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Well, I think he just .
Well, I don't know if he eversays it's two million himself.
He does?

Speaker 2 (38:10):
He says would you ever stop hunting your two
million?
So he knows the money.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
So either he saw the money.
Oh well, there you know, heprobably counted one and then,
you know, just didn't lookthrough every single dollar bill
.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Well, you didn't have to, but you could click
something that big, you wouldsee that Well.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
So they had the ones in between the hundreds and they
cut out the one so it wouldn'tlike have a bump over it.
So it was the money that thetracker was in was cut out, so
that you know it's like you cutout like a book and hide like a
gun in it or whatever.
So it closes flatly.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I gun in or whatever, so it closes flatly.
I was getting too nuts with it.
I was like oh, that tracker isprobably a radiation detector.
The bills are probablyirradiated, because that's one
way you could track money too,and I was like what am I
thinking?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
this is too, that's too much.
They just have a tracker.
Yeah, and it's not even thatgreat of a tracker.
You have to because it doesn'tlike point to a location.
You just have to like oh,there's a beep, now I have to
drive around, just fine.
Um, also, I just love wheneverhe's looking for the, looking
for the guy with the money.
He's like what would I do?
I guess I'd be looking forshade yep, and that was.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
That's a good.
He's like well, if you wentsomewhere because he knew he's
probably wounded because he sawblood or something, I don't know
exactly.
But he's like yep, I come outthe way I did.
It's like that makes sense too.
Yeah, um, because we're allanimals and he's tracking like
an animal.
I guess I'd come back the way Icame and I love that he saw him
sitting there, looked at hiswatch and then waited, saw no

(39:35):
movement and he's like all right, he's probably not moving.
And one thing I don't know ifthat's a fact or not it kind of
made me think of it why is thewatch not in on his wrist?
And I was like, well, it's hotand the watch would probably get
really hot.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, and he probably that's why he keeps it there
and he's sitting still for sucha long time because he doesn't
want to be seen.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
And then we meet his wife, Carla Jean.
They have a good job.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, she crushes.
I love their back and forth.
It just feels like a classic,like young married couple that
you know probably they'dprobably stay together forever
but they eventually hate eachother.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
But right now it's like they're bickering.
It was so funny.
It's fun.
Yeah, I just loved his like's.
Like you keep talking, I'lltake you in there and I'll take
you in the back, and screw youand like what the best or like I
made me laugh and I was likeman, my woman was out here,
she'd be like that's somethingyou would say yeah, like, yeah
um, yeah, but it's great.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I immediately love the, the pair, um, and then you
know, it just immediately showsthat she doesn't ask too many
questions.
Uh, she'll just, she'll justget mad and not talk, so she
won't keep going into like whatare you doing, where'd you go?
Things like that.
And then later that night I gotit at the Gittin' store.
Later that night he's laying inbed with his eyes wide open and

(40:56):
he says, just can't do it.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
What did he say?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
He said alright, I was like yeah, something like
that, because it's like it's hisconscience.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
I just I just like dude, like in my mind.
He's like when he says I'mdoing something dumber in hell,
and I was like you are, likeyou're not stupid, you should
know at this point he I know hecouldn't do it his conscience at
that moment, but I was likedude, he's dead he was he was
pallid he was.
His skin was yellow, he wasdying.

(41:28):
I was like you left him there.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
He's dead yeah, but I think, like this is something
that comes into play with hiswar background.
Right, it's, like you know,killed people.
He probably has a lot of regretover it and he has like some
sort of PTSD probably no manleave.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Ptsd probably no man Leave, even like seeing a
wounded person, no matter ifthey're in me or not.
If, depending on certain peoplelike you, can't do that, yes,
it will eat at you.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, I think he just wants to.
I got this money.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I don't want it to eat away at me the rest of my
life.
Yeah, if I could have donesomething.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
And he's like I just got to do something.
I got it.
Good, not say he has ptsdbecause, as he's like leaving
this place, you know, I assumethis is what this is meaning.
Whenever he's like, um, it'slike, well, tell my mom if I
don't come back, tell my mom Ilove her, and it's like he's
already dead and he's like, well, I'll tell her myself.
Yeah, like to me.
I was thinking I was like, ohyeah, this guy's probably just

(42:15):
kind of.
He's probably just likementally a little bit messed up
yeah, because they were nomright nom right NOM was rough,
yeah, which later will come backto help him when he's trying to
get back across the border.
So, yeah, he goes out.
I fucking love the visuals inthis.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
This is Roger.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Deakins, he finally won his Oscar for Blade Runner
2049, 20 something, whateverthat movie was.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Oh, another deal that's been in the Blade Runner
movie yeah, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
So like I just love the scene.
He goes back, he drives histruck up, it's up on the hill.
Oh, the shot is so amazing,what?
And it's great storytellingbecause he comes back, he goes,
he's looking around, he gives,he opens the door of the water
and then he turns back andthere's two trucks up there or
another truck up there.
So perfect, it's so good.

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But I was also so mad.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
I was like why did you come?

Speaker 1 (43:06):
back.
I know it's so frustrating backthey like eventually, hopefully
.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
It made me think I was like if he didn't come back,
how like the tracker part, howlike it changes everything, hey,
you wouldn't have.
They wouldn't have known who togo for.
He was just randomly hunting,they would not they just drove
around the town.
Yeah, they would have been liketrying to find it yeah and I
know it sets it up.
It's just one of those like, ifyou just didn't go back, it's
always that one mistake, thatbecause that sealed his fate was

(43:33):
going back.
Yeah, it's kind of like fargoum, he went back and he's trying
to do the right thing.
Yeah, in the process, I'msitting here thinking like he's
not a bad guy.
If I can't like obviously Iwould never like if I saw dead
bodies I would run and go getthe cops yeah, but being in this
mindset of this person, thatmoney is like it's like that's

(43:53):
opportunity man.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
That's like the rest of your life not doing it.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
He's retired yeah, especially in the 80s.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Now he can buy any house, he could do what he needs
to.
It's like if he just got thatmoney and immediately went like
Carla Jean, we're leaving now.
It's like we're going, we'repicking up your mom, we're
living in Tennessee now.
It all probably worked out, Yep.
But so he turns around and thenall of a sudden you see that
the I guess the Mexican guys are.
They're stabbing his tires andstuff and the lights turn on and
they're driving down.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
He's shooting at him as he dies under.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
And then what I love is it's been a very slow pace,
like all, like you know, likemost of it has been camera
panning.
There's not a lot of handheld,but then like the chaos of the
moment where he's running, it'sdark and you see like the lights
shining on him and like justkind of around the whenever he's
running away, like thelandscape, it just gets me it's

(44:43):
so good.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
And another thing that's great about this in
action moments, no shaky camwell, it had just that one when
he was running but it's like Ifelt like it added to the
intensity of it it wasn't toolong.
Well, you don't need a lot ofit.
Like a girlfriend wanted me towatch the born movies and watch
that first one and I said I'mstruggling to watch this there
is so much.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
He kind of started that.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
It's so much.
I'm like I don't know why.
If I had like back then when Iwatched this, if I was an
inspiring filmmaker if I was Iwould look at him like dude.
No, I would have been like themovie's good.
If I was like this is what youneed.
Focus on your action.
You're just doing like.

(45:24):
I don't know what his reasoningfor it was.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
It to help, like, make it feel like you're in the
action, but I don't like it yeah, I can't remember what he said,
the reason I think it was justkind of his style that he liked
and people really liked it inthe 2000s.
But I think we got so much ofit at once I didn't even like it
first watching it.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I was like I'm trying to.
It's just like with theTransformers films there's so
much like CGI jumping aroundstuff.
You don't know what's going on.
Yeah.
I want to know if you put me inthere where I could focus on
the scene.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
You can appreciate it so much, yeah and that's like
you know it really and kind ofinspired like what the 2000s
fight scenes and stuff, or whereit's like close-up action.
You know the thing I alwaysAlien Covenant where I'm like I
can't understand, like when theFassbenders fight, I'm like I
don't know what's happening, Ihave no idea who's hitting who,
and I think it kind of all kindof came from Paul Greengrass and

(46:10):
I can't not.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
When I think about that, like all the stuff and
that firstborn movie, I can'tjust not imagine someone behind
there going.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
You're shaking a camera so yeah, then as they're
running, he's getting, he likefalls down like this cliff and
then like they release the dog,but he knew where he was going
yeah, they release the dogs,which I love.
Oh, this scene, this scene isso tense I remember.
So they release the dogs.
He jumps into the water.
They shoot the water anddoesn't hit him because he's

(46:39):
using shotguns.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Well, he goes under.
Well, it's not even a shotgun,even if it's a breaks the bullet
, yeah it just.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
It stops it completely thank you,
mythbusters, for showing me howbullets and water work yeah, now
that's why and uh again, I keepinterrupting john wick too.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
When he or was that that was, it was three that one
guy where they're fighting underthe water, he's shooting him
from a distance and it's justlosing his momentum and john
wick pulls up to him and pullsit point blank and shoots him
and he's like yes, it's so good,just even like the fire would
burn his throat from the gun.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
But then I love like he jumps in the water and he's
swimming.
The dogs chase him.
Like the dogs, like hauling ass.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I love, because a real dog like I know, like
obviously they probably keptmaking sure the dog was safe,
but that dog being real andswimming and doing it was so
good and then, like JoshBrolin's character, swimming
with one arm too because he justgot pegged in the shoulders.
Yeah, this is so good, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
And then you know he gets out of the water and his
gun he's like drying it off.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
I loved all that little detail.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I just remember me and Richard watching it for the
first time.
I'm sitting on his couch and hehad, like the big box screen TV
like a giant one and, like thedog's running up to him.
I just remember screaming kickthe dog, he's gonna get you.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
And then he shot him and I was like, oh, thank god, I
kinda got pulled out of thatmoment.
I was sitting there like I wastense, but Broly was laying in
my lap and I was like, and hekept and I just had to clinch
him Shut up.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Shut up.
Don't make me do this to you.
So perfect, I love it.
And then he gets away after hejumps through the water.
It's a great tense scene.
I love the dog almost gettinghim.
It's so crazy.
Then we cut to Anton Chigurh ata gas station.
He's very antagonistic to thegas station clerk.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I love this scene, so tense, and the guy who's doing
it I could see like he props tohim this one off little spot
because I could feel his tensionand his nervousness.
Yeah, because they're all justlike, oh, just passing the time,
little small town talk andstuff.
And then you have this guywho's like, you're like whoa,
whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
What so I just like don't say the wrong thing to
out-of-towners man and theylived in your neighborhood,
you'd probably known him hiswhole, that whole scene was so
good and like that whole likefriend thing, yeah um, and it's
great because it tells you thethe by the coin is telling you
when the setting of all this istaking place, because it's 1958.
It's been traveling 22, 22years to get here and now it's

(49:01):
here and it's either heads ortails and you have to say call
it and his like explanation likewhat am I betting?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
it's like you've been betting with your whole life
with it and it's like god, thisis so good.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
It's like I need to know what I stand to win.
And then, when he gave him,that coin.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Uh like, his whole explanation is like don't throw
it in there, it'll just becomeanother coin.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
He's trying to put it in your pocket.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
So he's trying to explain to him.
It's like this saved your life.
Yeah, it's so good hischaracter.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
And another thing that shows this guy is psychotic
he's eating sunflower seeds andeating the shells with it yeah,
and like just to even like,make it like, just to mind fuck
the guy even more, cause he'slike where do you want me to put
it?
Anywhere?
Not in your pocket, where it'llget mixed with the others and
become just a coin, which it is,and it's like what?

Speaker 2 (49:43):
yes, well, he's showing him.
It's like I want you toremember this because he wants
to fuck with him.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
Yeah, I want you to remember that this coin right
here was your life yeah, it iswild because I've almost gone
through like every scene of thismovie and I could have said
this is my favorite scene.
This is my favorite scene.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
There's so many scenes likethis is a movie.
I could sit here like that.
No, this is my scene, like it'sscenes, the whole movie and
every part of it love.
Yeah, every scene is so good.
Yeah, and uh, I love also likewhen he's just questioning him
like well, what time do youclose?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
it's like no, he knows, he's freaking out.
He's just like squirming andhe's just loving it and then
it's like what time do you go tobed?
I say around 9.30.
Should I come back?
Then it's like, alright, well,I'm gonna be staying up for the
next week with a shotgun pointedat my door and then, oh, so you
married into it and he's like,well, that's how you wanna see
it and he's so offended by it.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Uh huh, no nonsense.
He's like don't like this wholething of like you normal people
try and put this uh facade ofsomething that what it is on
it's like no, you married intoit and you did but the thing is
I could see the backstory beinglike oh well, I had my own job
and we're happy.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Because he says like, oh, we didn't live here
originally, we just came here totake over this or to count.
We just came back here to becloser to our family.
It's like, well, yeah, the wasprobably sick, they probably
want to move close and theydidn't want to shut down the
store and he wanted to keep itgoing.
Probably a completely wholesomeand fine story.
It's not like a story aboutgreed or anything.
No, it's just he doesn't likeit.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
He just he's like no, cause, he's minimalistic and
that's how it is, bare bones,like obviously there's.
He sees things black and white.
I would say yeah, and he's likeno, like this is what it is.
He's like I know how itactually is and that's what it
was.
It was.
It's black and white moment.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I'm also assuming that he's probably an immigrant
himself and he probably madethis whole hitman thing by
himself and man.
So maybe.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Watching this movie, I was like I want more of this
character.
I would love if we just got.
I know I don't want sequels,but I was like if we got it with
the same directors, give me a10 minute movie just like a 10
minute short.
Just give me a little bit moreof his life.
Yeah, yeah it would've beengreat.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
We get back to the house.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Llewellyn tells like Carla Jean we under the trailer
getting all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Yeah, and it's like whatever you don't take, you'll
never see again.
So we gotta go.
And she's like Llewellyn, whathave you gotten yourself into?

Speaker 2 (52:09):
And he's got a fucking shotgun blast in his
back and she's just like pickingglass out and everything.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
But it's like, I mean , I guess he just kind of
dominates the relationship.
So it's like, yeah, so he sendsher off to her mother's and he
makes his way to a motel in thenext county where he hides the
satchel in an air vent of hisroom Love it.
First time you watch it, it'slike what are you doing?

(52:35):
You see this string.
So it's like, oh, it's just sohe can hide it.
And then, but then we seewhat's going to happen soon.
Then we see two men, along withShiger, who hired him, are at
the drug deal site.
That's a dead dog, yes, it is.
Or my favorite part, I wantedto start it with it it's like
mind riding bitch.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah, that made me laugh and I'm like man, this is
not the person you want to saythis to yeah, and Shiger strips
the car of its tags so that thecops can't follow him.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
The men give a receiver that tracks the money,
then Shigeru kills them both.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
He's like I got this Because, like you explained
earlier, like why he did this,Like why did he kill these
people?
I was like, well, maybe it wasbecause a boss guy in a building
I don't know his name- yeah,honestly, I'm not 100% sure why
he does kill these people in abuilding.
I don't know his name.
Yeah, honestly, I'm not 100%sure why he does kill these
people.
I think it's just what you said.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
He's like I don't need help, I've got this yeah,
and it's like just getting ridof loose ends.
I don't know well, because.
I don't, because you know, hekills Steven Root's character,
um, and it seems like he's justpissed that he like them off.
But then I'm assuming that thereason Carson Wells is brought
back was because, well, it'slike, hey, you just killed two

(53:45):
of my guys here, so like wedon't know what you're doing
anymore.
He doesn't understand who hehired to do this, yeah, and it's
also like are you even going togive the money back to me, or
are you going to give it towhoever someone else hire you,
you know?
So that's kind of how I feel.
It's kind of a little murky,but that's kind of what makes it
great.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Well, they do mention like he might just kill you
just because you inconveniencedhim.
He's a person of like kind oftook it as an insult, like I
don't need this, I can do it.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Yeah.
And then we meet back up withSheriff Bell who is getting his
horse ready to go to the site.
His wife is very sweet.
It's like don't hurt, do that?
Bell is on the trail of thekillings with his deputy,
wendell Love Wendell.
Sheriff Bell says he recognizesMoss's truck and they go and

(54:30):
investigate the scene.
This is where it's like it's amess, ain't it, sheriff?
If not, it will do till themess gets here.
Here's.
I love this scene.
So it's very slow, they're justwalking, walking around it, but
, like with the guy on the horse, the scene is shot so perfectly
and like the continuity of it,where he's just like walking
around the whole thing and thenthe scene ends where it's just
you have Sheriff Bell sittingthere and then Wendell walks up

(54:53):
behind him and there's nocontinuity issues.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
No, it's so beautiful , it's so good because he's also
monologuing about, like youknow.
He's explaining the scene likewell, this happened here, this
here.
And they're not like obviouslythey've seen some stuff, because
they're able to analyze thescene.
There's not like the typicalyounger kid.
He's like I don't know what'sgoing on.
The older one explainingeverything.
He's actually like usingsomeone who's deducing stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Wendell's the one that's like oh so these are
point blank.
So this was later.
These guys are all decaying andanother thing I like about this
movie.
So they had to get reallyexpensive fake blood to put on
all these characters becausewhen they're starting to use the
cheaper one, bugs and ants werecrawling all over the people
and stuff.
So they had to go with veryexpensive fake blood that the

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ants didn't want to eat becauseit's all syrup.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
One thing I noticed is Tommy Lee's character.
What happened to the drugs?
Because he lifted it up and thedrugs were there and he looked
down there and was like there'snot as much.
Happened to like the drugsBecause, you know, he lifted it
up and the drugs were there andhe looked down there and was
like there's not as much dustbuilt up here.
The drugs were here.
Yeah, so did.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Anton take it back?
I don't think Anton did.
I think I'm assuming the twoguys whoever I'm assuming like
the cartel probably came back,got all and then that's how the
other guys ended up finding outabout it.
Maybe, I don't know, I'massuming both sides of the
disagreement both came back tolike well, this was the meeting
point.
We haven't heard from any ofthese people Get our drugs back.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
At least we're not getting our money.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Yeah, I'm sure one side came to try to find the
money.
The other side probably came totry to find the drugs.
Brown drugs.
Is that what he't it?
I don't know.
I'm assuming.
I think brown, no black tar, Idon't know.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Let's see when are we at.
Where are we at?
So then we sugar.
He goes to Moss's place to findit empty, so he has himself

(56:33):
some milk.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
And this is where we get to see how he gets into
the're calling to.
So now he knows where he needsto look, because it's like, well
, you're here yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I can find you and I also love the.
Uh like the when he pops thedoor open and it makes the
crease on the wall.
It's so hard that you can seethe outline of the wall it's
showing like how hard it can hit.
Yeah, it sets it up for later inthe scene in the hotel yeah,
and then he has some milk and helooks into the TV screen, which
is great, because it's going tobe very frustrating if Sheriff

(57:08):
Bell watched this movie and belike, damn, I was literally
sitting in the same spot, he waslooking at the same TV and I
just missed him.
So then he goes to the trailerpark office.
Love this lady.
She's like one of my favoriteactors in this because he's like
oh, where does he work?
It's like where does he work?
It's like I'm not allowed togive out that information he
wanted to kill her yeah, but itshows you how.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
He's just someone who's like.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
I don't want to cause too much ruckus right now
because if I do, that's not the,it just pops up okay he looks
and he's like lucky someone elseis here, yeah, or you would be
gone yeah, and he probably wouldkill her because, like you
don't need to know what I looklike, but I just love whenever
like he's leaving and she justlike sits up a little bit and

(57:49):
like stares, gives him a lookand she's like I'm not scared of
you, I fucking got you and Iwas like wow, that's probably
the only person he was everscared of.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
In this entire, I feel like they actually do
something.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
It's like thank God there was somebody in the
bathroom.
So then the deputy and sheriffare at Llewellyn's.
They notice the lock has beenshot out.
They enter, Bell notices thelock hitting the wall.
Then he notices the milk issweating and he's like, oh man,
we should probably put like aAPB For who, For who?
What do we say?

(58:21):
Looking for a man who justdrank milk?

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Now, if they had thought, I mean they could have
went up to the front desk,that's what I told Natalie.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I was like this is like one of the few things in
the movie where it's like whoa.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
But also you wouldn't think to go there because, like
, how are they going to know?
They wouldn't know In his oldage.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
You know, he's like kind of the point of the whole
movie he's not cut out for thisanymore.
Um, like, maybe Wendell shouldhave been.
Like hey, let's ask around seeif anybody saw this guy.
Um so, and then I love that youget the line he's seen the same
things.
They're talking about Llewellyn, and like oh, they must have
got away right, and it's likehe's seen the same things I've

(58:58):
seen.
And it certainly made animpression on me.
And that's when we cut back tolike looking at the TV.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
I don't know, oh, dude, how they set this stuff up
.
It's just I would love, likethere's certain directors I
would love to watch the processof it and like just kind of
seeing how they work in theirprocess.
These would be like some of thedirectors I would love to see,
like Wes Anderson, dennisVillanueva and the Coen brothers
.
Yeah, like Wes Anderson, dennisVillanueva and the Coen

(59:25):
brothers.
Yeah, seeing their process andwhat they come up with, because
seeing a creative person andtheir work is so different.
It's like when you watchsomeone who's doing like
drawings and stuff and you seethem just going, you're like, oh
, that's really cool.
Yeah, I would love to be likejust watching on the set On a
movie set.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Yes, I.
It's like man, I need to winthe lottery and produce a movie
and be like here.
Coen's, let me just watch youmake this man.
I think about this.
Do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Off topic.
It made me think of like always, you know, you think about
winning the lottery I was like Iwould like to set up something,
my own movie company, and whendirectors are like, well, I'd
like to do this stuff you know,executive producers want to do
this I'm like you.
And then just like, becausethere's always something that,
um, I read a something, it'slike, oh, we always have this

(01:00:08):
with, like people who areexecutive producers or doing it,
uh, people on sets.
Well, like it was like a scenefor a movie where it was like
death and stuff like that, andit was a gloomy room and they
put a bright red rose in there,a different flower, and they did
that on purpose, because theyknew it didn't fit so that way
when an executive comes in andbecause they want to feel like
they contributed somehow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
He's like, oh, that doesn't belong.
They're like, oh, thank you,we'll do that.
And then they take it out tofeel like they produced.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Did something I'm like that's great.
I remember this because I saidthe process of getting money for
it.
It's really hard for indiepeople to do it.
That's why Robert Downey Jrdoesn't want to do indie movies,

(01:00:51):
because they always end upasking him for money.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Well, he got it.
I mean, he got Dr Doom money.
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah, but I remember Mark Ruffalo being like you know
, you just kind of got to liketake what you can get and you
meet with so many people thatare willing that potentially
will give you money, and he saysI met with so many people that
have like won a lottery thatwill say they want to help
produce the movie, but then theyend up backing out last second
and I was like, oh, that'sprobably what I would actually
like that's the thing about that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
I think it's one of those like if you're gonna do
that, you have to be someonewho's smart with the money on
the lottery.
You have to have accounts andstuff and like this is my budget
.
I have to talk to my accountant.
I have this money.
You have to be willing, like ifI did it, I would be, I would
be one of those people I'vecovered all my bases.
I know this might not pay off,but I know where this is, like
my fun money.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
I'm doing it for the deal with taxes and stuff and
it's like holy shit, if I getinto this, there's going to be
years of dealing with me puttingmoney into this one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
You have to be set up for it.
It's not just like becausepeople who have lottery don't
seem to think like, oh, I'lljust do this.
No, you need to make sureyou're prepared for this.
Talk to accountants, talk tolawyers, talk to all this.
What am I going to have to deal?

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
with I'm ready.
And it's one of those thingswhere it's like, if you win the
lottery, you're like I don't doshit, I won the lottery, I just
want to chill and have fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
That's what it's for yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
So then we see Sugar, he's calling all the numbers on
Llewellyn's phone.
We hear him that he called themother and on his way back to
the motel he knows, oh wait,when he does buy the socks it's
like well, we only got white.
It's like why is there only oneI wear?
I don't know.
That is like all we got iswhite.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Like who cares?
Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I don't know.
It's just like a little funnyline.
It's like a classic CoenBrothers type thing.
So on his way to a new moteland the cab driver's like I
don't want any funny business,it's like you're in a hole, I'm
trying to get you out right now.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
He said like you're in a jackpot.
Yeah, jackpot, that's aninteresting way of saying that.
But okay, he's like you're in ajackpot, I'm trying to get you
out and gives him like a hundredor something.
Yeah, so I of the truck,because of the one that showed
up that night.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah, and it's just a little more of the theme of the
movie where, like this, cabdriver is like get out.
Oh, here's some money.
All right, I'll keep going.
Money talks when you're in thatworld.
So Llewellyn goes out and buysa gun and a tent for some tent
poles.
He just originally wants sometent poles, but they don't have
poles.
And he just wanted the pole sohe could pull the thing out,

(01:03:24):
because at the hotel we seeSaul's off his shotgun.
He goes back to the originalhotel and gets a second room
across from his room his firstroom because he's staying at 138
originally, and then he gets 38, which is just on the other
side of it, I guess 138 wastheir room.
Yeah, well, it's the room thathe originally put the money in

(01:03:45):
that vent.
Were they staying in his room?
They were waiting for him tocome back.
Oh, okay, yeah, so they weren'tstaying in any room, they just
broke into his room.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Okay, because I was like, so he took the, because
she said you could take thisroom.
It's right across Like no, I'mfine with.
Was staring that he went into138.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
But, maybe I'm wrong Sugar did To shoot all the bad
guys?
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I can't remember.
I'd have to rewatch itimmediately.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
I just watched it last night and I couldn't
remember myself.
It's like I needed the map aswell.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I love that he did that, because he went and stayed
at the other hotel and he cameback.
Was it the next day?
He came back and told the ladyhe was wanting to get another
room.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Yeah, elevator's, like it's got two double beds.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
I love it because she's like I don't care about
all these beds, it's just me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Just let me have a dang thing, All right.
So in his new room he listensfor people through the walls
while he's trying to pull outthe suitcase.
We then cut to Chigurh drivingand now his receiver is picking
up the signal.
Llewellyn is constructing ahook with his tent poles to
receive his briefcase from thetents.
Chigurh finds the roomLlewellyn first bought.
He buys a room himself andanalyzes the layout.

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Then he takes his shoes or hisboots off, heads over to the
hotel room so they don't carryhim walking.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
I'm like I that's so smart.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
Yeah, it's great because you're seeing like the
end of llewellyn's process andthen, like during that scene,
you're also getting thebeginning stages of sugar's
process and it's like fun and Ijust love that.
He's hearing like the gunshotsand stuff through like the vents
and he's like when he gets inthat room.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
So tense that first moment when he gets in that room
and he shoots that guy.
You don't just most of the timethey shoot him and the chests
are gone, shoots his arm and hisdangling there I was like oh
yeah, and his little silencer.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
so I guess that's something from like the book and
it's not something that exists.
Yeah, so they had to make uptheir own thing.
So he, shigeru, probably had tomake the silencer and he
probably made the kettle thing,and it's like he's such an
ingenuitive, yeah, person.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Well, like that noise too that it makes when he
shoots that shotgun.
I swear, I heard noises likethat at the factory.
Really, it's one of thosethings like if you can make
certain noises in a movie thatyou think of Anytime I hear
something like that, think ofthat immediately.
Yeah, that you think of anytimeI hear something like that,
think of that immediately yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
So he's burst into Moss's hideout, moss's motel
room.
At night, shigeru surprises agroup of Mexicans set to ambush
Moss and murders them all.
During all this, moss isgetting the briefcase and can
hear the gunshots.
Shigeru searches the room andthen notices the vents but just
I went a little too fast there.
I love the shooting the wall andthen notices the vents, but

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just I went a little too fastthere.
I love the shooting the wall,shooting the guy in the bathroom
, but you know like kind of themore haunting one is the guy in
the shower right, because he'slike pleading for his life.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
But then he like closes the thing and then shoots
it Just so he doesn't get bloodon him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Yeah, it's just like I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Well, he's like how did you?
Didn't he say how'd you find it?
How'd you find it?
Yeah, because he thinks theyhave it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
But he just taken everybody out and when he pulls
that shower curtain I'm likeit's not because he's staring
someone down because he doesn'tcare.
Yeah, he doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
No blood, because there's so much splatter, when
you shoot someone point blankwith a shotgun all over him and
then he takes his socks off.
And then whenever he goes inand I love that he's like
pulling change out, and ofcourse he's not going to go for
the quarter Yep, because he'sgot to flip that at some point
he grabs the dime.
And then what I love is thatbecause the guy in the bathroom
that got shot like shot his Uziand like it went all the way up

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to the roof.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
I didn't even notice that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I'm like, oh fuck, they're so good Detail, they're
so good.
So he searches the room.
He noticed the vents.
By the time Sugar removes thevent cover with a dime, moss is
already back on the road withthe cash.
And this is where we cut to thescene, where we meet Carson.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Wells, I do love that scene.
That guy who's driving him.
He's like Shouldn't be doingthat.
Even a young fella like you,yeah, shouldn't be hitchhiking.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
I was like you shouldn't pick up hitchhikers.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Yeah, you're in the 80s.
You know what happens withhitchhikers you die.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
But it's just like another person just trying to do
a good thing.
But like, hey, dude, like ifthis was at the wrong time you'd
be in trouble too.
Guy, oh yeah, wells, he istalking to steven root.
Um, you know, king of the hillfame mike judge guy, because
he's a.
He's like the fatter guy inking of the hill, like the
balding guy from king of thehill that's the voice.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Yeah, isn't it?
Yeah, bill, yeah, I never knewthat was his voice and the
stapler guy and he's in barry,uh well, it's so funny because I
I put it down, I put my notewas stapler guy, always a boss.
Now, yeah, that's so funnyBecause I just watched a movie
with Andy.
No guy from the Office, andyyeah, I know who you're talking

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about Watched a movie with himwhere he goes on a trip and he's
a boss in that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Oh really, yeah, that's great.
So it's essentially just ameetup because Carson Wells has
got a search.
He's also now on the search forthe money and he's like kind of
, I guess, supposed to keep alookout on Chigurh potentially.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
It seems like he's just out for the money and he
wants to get it back beforeChigurh gets it In this moment,
like when he's getting the money, he knows that the cartel is
looking for him and then he'slike they're getting killed.
Someone else is looking forthis money.
They.
He's like it's this thing.
He makes this connectionObviously they're following me

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because they know, yeah, someoneelse is following me.
How is this other person that'swhen he's laying awake has
another moment?
He's like there ain't no way.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Yeah, there ain't no way.
Um, and I love in this sceneit's got it's uh, my favorite
line from the scene.
It's like Steven Root'scharacter.
Just how dangerous is he,carson Wells, compared to what
the bubonic plague?
Um, and he says that he willfind him and take care of the
situation.
Um, I don't know, he just comesin, uh Woody Harrelson, and

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just kind of like steals.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I love.
He's like I didn't say this.
He's like you're a man not towaste a good empty chair and I
was like this is such a goodscene this is so I just love the
banter and everything and justWoody Harrelson.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
He's so charismatic, no matter what, even when he's
nuts, yeah, and I don't know.
I love the fact that, like hejust faces everything, it's like
, oh well, you're.
That's.
The one thing holding you backis that you're not a psychopath
potential or as much of apsychopath as sugar.
So in a border town we see Moss.

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He gets a room and tells theman at the desk to call him if
anyone else checks in.
By anyone, I mean any swingingdick.
Yeah.
He goes to bed but wakes upsaying there just ain't no way.
Moss finally finds theelectronic bug, but it's a
little bit too late.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Because he calls the front desk.
You can hear the ringing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Yeah, because he hears a commotion first and then
he calls it and it's such agreat thing because I was going
to bring that up that he callsand you hear the phone that he's
got, but you hear it in thebackground too, and it's like
most people wouldn't have donethat.
No, but it's so it just makesit haunting.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
No, and like his like being quiet because like when
I'm the girlfriend's asleep,that's how I am.
I'm putting stuff.
Like you know, you just dropstuff.
Like when you put somethingdown leaves a little noise.
He's very cautious to like dropit slowly, so it puts nothing
on there at all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Yeah, and this next part that we're about to have,
it's like I noticed.
Like this time I'm like, oh,this is what separates Moss from
Sugar, because after he callsdown the desk and gets no
answers, he like turns out thelight and waits for Sugar.
We see feet standing at thedoor.
My immediate thought is likeshoot, but it could be anybody.

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And I think Moss thinks like oh,this could be like the guy at
the front desk was in his doorand he went up to I would have
shot and I was like and samething.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I'm thinking about you.
He's still someone with aconscious conscience and he
doesn't do it.
And I'm like, if you just pullthat trigger man, you shot in my
head I would have been like Iwould have pulled.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
And just and just suffered later.
Yeah, it's like just hope itwas like a certain person.
But then so the guy.
He like we hear Sugar undoing alight bulb in the hallway and
then I'll start.
And then he like he's gettingready for him to like kick the
door in, but it gets me everytime.
It jump, scares me every singletime, because I always listen
to this movie really loudbecause it's so quiet and I
don't want Snake to bark.
And then bah, and I'm alwayslike oh, and then it hits him

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right in the side and thatmoment of delay right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
There is also another thing that, like it, calls back
to the other scene when he hitsit and it leaves that end in
the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
It shows you how powerful it is so it like puts a
.
I thought that was just.
I thought, cause that's wherehe's getting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I thought that's where he got shot.
Oh wait, it probably is wherehe got shot but it shows you
that moment of delay that hitshim like, oh, it makes sense
because of how much power it has.
It would stun him because if hedidn't get stunned he might
have been able to get him.
But that stun moment was enoughfor Anton's character to do
what he needed to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
And then we get the big firefight between the two
characters.
It spills out onto the streetsand it leaves them both wounded.
But so I love, like running inthe empty motel.
He jumps out the guy he goeslike Anton tries to shoot or no,
so he jumps out.

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He goes to the front, he runsback through it to be like oh,
I'm gonna go backwards becausehe'll probably think I'll just
keep trying to run this way.
So he's trying to outdo him,but sugar is so smart.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
I'm assuming he just goes to a different hotel room
and he's probably lookingbecause he has the advantage and
that like it.
I think it's because it's kindof connected.
He can look at both sides of it, yeah, and he's checking
because he he also knows this islike this person he's like
knows it, this knows it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
This guy's a little bit smarter than.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
I expected.
Yeah, he's able to anticipate.
He's like I know what you'regoing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Yeah, and then so he got the shot from the hotel.
He's running in the empty town.
Lou Ellen goes in to get intothis old man's truck.
This is a scene I did for myediting class that I was talking
about, not even thinking.
This is a very bloody scenewhen the guy gets shot in the
back of the head and like youhave the giant breast of like
blood shooting out and I'm likeI just remember, like some of

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the girls going like oh, and I'mlike oh, no, I forgot, I'm
desensitized, yeah, and so likehe shoots the man in it and
Llewellyn has to kind of controlthe thing.
Here's something that I kind ofthought for the first time.
I'm like I'm pretty sureLlewellyn crashed that truck on

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purpose because he was drivingfine.
Then he turns and he's goingstraight and then he purposely
runs into the car and it's thefact that when he gets out he
lightly closes the door.
I think he did it so he couldget a step on and to kill sugar
there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
I could see that, but I could see why he wrecked too,
because those things just swinglike boats.
Um, was that scene alsohappening, where Anton drives
over the bridge and just triesto shoot the bird?

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
oh yeah, we already skipped it well, is there
anything on that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
is he just wanting to do it just for fun?

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
um, because I was like he could have killed it,
but he chose just to fuck withit and you know, while watching
last I meant to be like kind oflook up what that's supposed to
represent, but I think it's justlike he just is a fucking
psychopath.
I mean that's what they do, buthe missed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
That's why on purpose , though, because he was
literally right there he couldhave shot it, but he chose not
to and just let it fly away.
It's weird, I weird, and Ithink part of me was thinking is
like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Does he have like?
a superstition thing, like ifyou pass some kind of bird like
this, you know it's not good andhe's like, oh yeah, not gonna
happen.
I don't know, I think I shouldhave looked it up.
Um, also something I like aboutthis, because they're having
the whole fight, um, but assugar gets to the car, the truck
, um, he's like, oh shit, Ithink this is a setup.
And he immediately turns aroundand ducks out of the way but
gets a little bit of a shotfollows the blood, just like him
, yeah and, like sugar, is ableto run away, and then he's like,
damn, he got away, um.

(01:15:31):
But what I love is because youcan kind of see he's watching
the reflection of sugar.
He's like the shape fromhalloween, almost he's the
boogeyman, he literally is theboogeyman and I.
I was like, oh, I can put thatin my notes.
So then we got Moss.
He's going to decide, he'sgoing to cross the border.
He sees three guys walkingtowards him and he asked for his

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shirt for $500.
One guy were you in a car wreck?

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Were you in a car wreck.
Another thing about that sceneI was like I guess he's like you
got to think, oh, they'reasking for money.
They're not good people.
It's like they're better thanthey could have, because he
probably cracked open that case,yeah, and brought them money.
I didn't give them money, theycould have just kicked his ass
and took it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Right, Well, I know he had a.
He put some in his pocket.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
So I think he had see him throw the money over the
fence, which is smart, smart,not smart.
So I'm like you know how many?
I feel like people would kindof be there, but I mean they're
really not being strict on thatborder right there yeah, not in
the 80s and just when he getsthe shirt has the beer in his
hand.
I feel like that was reallysmart, because he knew the guy
was just kind of not caringbecause those guys just walk
through but he's obviously likesuper bloody and the guy's
sitting here like half asleep,like something seems off.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
Yeah, but he had the beer, so he'd be like I'm drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
Oh, just some drifter who's done gotten to a fight or
something.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
Yeah, um, and then he , we cut to him and he collapses
, I guess, like on the steps ofsome sort of Mexican street or
whatever.
And you got the mariachi peoplelike strum band, like what
they're saying is um, you wantedto fly without wings, you
wanted to touch the sky, youwanted many riches, you wanted
to play with fire.
So it's essentially they'rejust singing about like the

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whole, like theme of the movie,essentially which is hilarious
because it's also just a reallyfunny scene.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
It is because he because he's sitting here like
lucky he didn't bleed out anddie, yeah and then wakes up and
I love when he lifts up theshirt and they're quiet and
they're like oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Then he gives them money and asks for a hospital.
This scene doesn't exist in thebook.
So we cut to Shigeru whotalking about process.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
We cut to Shigeru who blows up a car so he can steal
medical supplies from a pharmacyhe does that scene because he's
in the truck or whatever he'sin, and you're like, oh, he's
gonna start trying to cleanhimself up real quick.
He's like, no, he's, he's gonnago do it the right way.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
He's messed up, yeah, because after we see him put
the the shirt into the gas tank,he puts like a little cardboard
like thing that you'd find in amedical, yeah thing, and like
puts the lights, the rag, onfire and then just walks into it
and explodes.
Everybody's running aroundfreaking out.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
He just you see him limping that explosion.
He doesn't even blink.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Sounds like that's, so he probably knows the timing
and everything of it, becausehe's crazy.
Then he just goes in there,grabs everything during all the
chaos and walks out, um, andthen we cut to him.
He's cleaning his wounds anddress and dressing them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
What I love is because we cut to him and he's
like pale, he's sweating, he'slike fucked up and it's like the
first time we saw him like whoathis guy is, he's killable well
, that's the thing I like aboutthis is that sometimes, when you
watch movies, like with peoplelike this, if they're not like
jacked up serial killer, likejason, yeah, they always try to
make them too like he'simpossible to kill, like no,

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these people are human and theyshow that Like that's what's
great, it's like you can killhim.
It's just you have to be smartand better than him, and it
gives you hope.
Like Moss can make it.
Yeah, because he's like, oh, hewounded him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
And sometimes kind of the issue with some of these,
like Michael Myers, jason andall them.
It's like they're like we'renot just, we're not gonna be
able to kill him.
Well, that's what I also likeabout the Predator movie.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
You see him stitching himself up like yeah there if
he bleeds, uh huh it can kill it, you can kill it.
Uh, and like you're right, itdoes give hope.
But in this moment Sugar hashas, he amps it up more.
He's like I know how he liketakes it.
He starts planning more insteadof just going himself.
He's like I've got plans nowbecause he takes into account
his wound.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Yeah, and something that this movie shows like
Anton's a big dude, he isBardem's like whenever he's like
naked on the toilet and I'mlike, damn, this guy's just big.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
He's just a tall person.
He's got a natural big bill.
He doesn't.
I don't know if he really worksout, but he, he's just a big
guy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
I'm like, oh yeah, like if I was in this world it'd
be like, especially when hepulls over that guy in the cop
car.
When he's in the cop car, I'mlike he's very intimidating,
yeah, int.
And then we cut to Sheriff Billasking about the cars.
He says he's going to go seeCarla Jean.
I love it also.
Through this whole thing, likethe DEA and everybody's like

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they're constantly being liketrying to get a hold of him.
He's like I'll call him backlater.
He's like oh, do you want to goback?

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
to the crime scene.
It's like is there new bodies?
And I'm like no, and why wouldI go back?
I love to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
But also, at the same time, I think it shows like
he's not cut out to be a copanymore.
He's ready to like.
It's like I mean part of this.
It goes along with not going tothe desk lady at the trailer
park.
It's like you know, maybe ifyou're potentially a little bit
better of a cop, he was probably, and also he's showing, like
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
He's like he's he's the old timer now too, yeah, and
he's like.
I'm not cut out for this typeof stuff because it's very
in-depth.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
It's all passing him by.
So at the hospital Carson Wellsoffers protection from Chigurh
in return of the money Kind oftalk about Chigurh a little bit.
Moss is like what is he theultimate badass?
He's like, yeah, pretty much.
Moss says he doesn't need itbecause he won't find him.
But wells found him in threehours and like he's like he

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knows where you're going, dude,like we know where your wife,
your mother, everybody is.
Carson says he could be goingto odessa to kill his wife.
Carson tells him he's not cutout for this.
He tells him he is staying at ahotel across the road.
It's the same one that, uh,essentially he was staying at.
Ma says he could just make adeal with anton, but carson says
he will kill him just to do it,just for inconvenience him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Yeah, and I love because he also showing him.
He's like I know you tell mewhen you can't handle this.
Yeah, he knew he would do it.
Yeah, and I don't know howanton knew about this guy,
because it seemed like he knewhim.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Yeah, I'm assuming they just kind of maybe know
each other.
Because he remembers, becausehe met him once.
He says in the Stephen Rootit's like yeah, I met him once,
like something, blah, blah, blah, 1970-something.
Okay, so he knows and he, like,he doesn't forget faces and he
knows dates.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
And he probably knows he's there because he probably
found him.
He's like this is my easy wayto do it yeah, he'll come to me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
And then, uh, so meanwhile Belle visits Carla
Jean and informs her that Mosshas tangled himself with some
bad people who won't stop tillthey kill him.
Asks her to call him as soon asshe hears from Moss so that
Belle can protect him.
Wouldn't be able to protect him.
And then this is where you getthe whole scene where he's like
thinking about the cattle prodgun, so he's giving this like
whole speech about it, becausehis mind just wanders sometimes.

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As he says Carson is searchingfor the briefcase and finds it,
he doesn't grab it and goes backto the hotel.
There he's followed by Anton.
Oh, I love this scene where,because he just walks up the
stairs out of the right corner,oh, here comes him.
He looks back and just likesmiling at him.
It's like come on, let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
One thing I would say I would maybe be a mistake is
that this place would be a crimescene because dude was killed.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
There would have been cops there, local PD, and they
would be like yeah, I don't knowif it would be like because it
is a place of business.
I mean, it just seems like thepolice work near this town and
all this area.
It's just kind of like allright, yeah, I see all the
bodies.
All right, let's keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
I don't know, I just was like they wouldn't be able
to get back into this hotel.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Yeah, I would think they wouldn't, but like I don't
know, it may be just Because,and everything.
So they go.
They sit in the room there.
Carson says he doesn't have todo it.
He says he could take him to anATM.
He's got $14,000 in it.
Carson tells him that he knowswhere the case is and he could

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get it for him.
But Anton says if he knowswhere it will be.
Or Anton says he knows where itwill be and it will be brought
to him.
It looks to be the end forcarson.
You got the quote sugar and youknow what's going to happen now
.
You should admit your situation.
You should admit your situation.
There would be more dignityinto it.

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Carson, wills you go to hell,sugar.
All right, let me ask yousomething.
If the rule you followedbrought you to this, of what use
was the rule, carson?
Do you have any idea how crazyyou are, anton?
You mean the nature of thisconversation, I mean the nature
of you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
I love it because, like every time he says, like he
sees him slipping, he knowshe's like his facial expressions
, anton's, he's just like huh,it's just like it's happening.
He's like I was dead as soon asyou walked behind me.
And, like Anton just knows,like he's saying these things,
like it's the same stuffeveryone always says yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
And what do you think he's meaning by like?
If the rule you followedbrought you to this, what use
was the rule I?

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
kind of didn't understand that part too much.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
When I think about it , I kind of think about the moss
taking the water to the Mexicanguy in there.
It's like, oh, this one thingwhere it's like, ah, this is me,
this is what I have to do, Ihave to go help this guy.
It's like the rule I'mfollowing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Oh, your own set moral compass type of thing or
what you do.
He's like yeah, if you didn'tgo here you wouldn't be in this
situation.
It's again on Anton's characterof, like, you have all these
things that you can put in frontof it, but if you get down to
the basics of it, the bare bones, yeah it also is like brought

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to like the end of the filmwhenever he gets hit by the car.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
It's like you followed all these rules and
look, you got a broken arm, yourbone sticking out.
It's like, was your rules anybetter than anybody else's right
?
And then the phone's ringing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Anton looks at it shoots no delay with him, didn't
even care.
That's why I can see this isthe best version.
There's no hesitation that.
You see, at the time they'lljust sit there and look, maybe a
smirk or something.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
He just does it done yeah, and then he picks up the
phone call.
I love it because you got himcasually lifting up his feet
because he doesn't want to leaveany footprints with blood on it
.
Shigeru promises Moss thatCarla Jean will go untouched if
he gives him up the money.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
He knows that he won't, because I think he knows
this guy.
He's like you could havestopped this already.
Yeah, it's like you want it.
You're a man who's like yourpride.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
I'm going to make a special project out of you.
You're a man who's like yourpride.
I'm going to make a specialproject out of you.
Something I love, though, iswhen Moss calls like is Carson
Wells there?
Not in the way that you aremeeting so good?
So Moss remains defiant.
Moss reenters the US andretrieves the money.
I love the little.
It's obviously a lot harder toget into America than it was for

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him to get into Mexico.
He's got the guy like grillinghim and the only way he's like I
was in this company and stuffLike oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
It's like all right, somebody take care of this man
and get somewhere he's neededand could go.
I also like the scene whereWoody Harrelson's character is
at the thing and he was tellinghim he was in there too.
He's like what does that makeus?
Yeah, yeah, I think it was moreof like I don't know if he was
trying to empathize.
He was just saying like Iunderstand you more than you
think because I served as well,type of thing.
Like you know.
Yeah, I don't know if he wastrying to do like the whole,
like have something in common,or he's just showing him like

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you're not like as good as youthink you are.
I did the same thing and typeof stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Yeah, he, you can take care of the situation
because of the training To showhim like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
I've been.
I know I guess that would makesense.
Yeah, he's like I was alsoserved.
I know what you think we're in.
This could be in the samemindset.
You can't do it.
You need to listen.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
And then Moss arranges to rendezvous with his
wife at a motel in El Paso.
Send her out of harm's way.
Anton goes to the man who hiredCarson.
He immediately kills him.
Just walks in and kills him.
Apparently I guess he was hiredby that guy and I love I missed
some of the scene here becauseI had Messed with Broly or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
I don't know maybe, but it was like why did he do it
?
Because he gets the other guyto talk.
I really wanted to go back.
I was like it's late.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
I can't like go back and analyze um well, the other
guy's just like there for ameeting.
But yeah, and mostly what Itake from it is just like, are
you gonna shoot me now?
And it's like, did you see me?

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
but why did he shoot him?
Was it just because, like, howdare you have these other people
?
yeah, the other people that it'slike what I was supposed to be
the one and man, when he shothim and like he's like got that
uh, uh peppering all over hisface which is a good detail,
because shotguns do that andhe's just like got him in the
throat, he's slowly like makesme wonder if, like I know, anton
probably just shoots to makesure, but I feel like he can

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like I'm gonna shoot you to makeyou die slowly, yeah um.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
so when carla jean boards the bus to el paso um,
some of the mexicans who havealso been hired by the buyer
boss that shot hired Chigurh arethere, and Carla's mother tells
them where they are staying.
They're just been following him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
I also get that a little bit.
It's like I knew three yearsago I got the cancer and stuff.
Yeah, I got the cancer and I'mwondering.
When I heard that it made methink I wonder if that's also
part of his motivation for themoney.
He's like I can get that moneyto get the mother treatment.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Yeah, potentially.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Even though he, like, has a disdain for it.
But you know he's still like.
It's his wife and his wifeloves mother.
I don't want to watch her dieand cancer sucks.
So I could probably get hersome treatment.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
And also where some younger men are manipulating
this older woman.
No country for old women aswell.
Carla calls Bell.
She reluctantly accepts Bell'soffer to save her husband and
tells him on the phone whereMoss is headed.
Anton receives help from astranger and asks which airport
he should use.
After he gets info from him, hekills him and steals his car.
I need you to take all thechicken crates out of the bag.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
I know, yeah, and then you see him later washing
it out and I'm like this is likehim getting like that other
thing, just changing cars allthe time smart yeah, yeah, moss
stops at a hotel and meets agirl, and then we cut to black
and then we cut to the sheriffdriving.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Yeah, we see him driving.
And then all of a sudden we seethis pickup truck with I'm
assuming it sounded like theywere mixing guys.
They're all hightailing it outof there.
We hear the gunshots and stuffand we just see that Moss.
He goes up to the motel roomand we see Moss laying dead.
He let his guard down, drank alittle bit too much probably.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
Well, in that scene you could say he let his guard
down, but he did.
Well, the woman was dead in thepool, right yeah, because it's
like did they show upimmediately?

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
Or Well, so I mean just from the timeline of the
movie it looks like it's been alittle while, because it would
have taken Bill some time to getthere.
So yeah, he's probably a fewbeers in having a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Nobody's supposed to know that he's going there, I
wonder it's one of those thingsyou get to think about, which I
like, Because when I firstwatched this, I was like what's
going on and they left.
And when he walks up and seesit, he's like this is him right
here, what?

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Yeah, what do you feel about them not showing the
death?
Um, a lot of people strugglewith that.
When I tell them like hey, youshould watch it, they're like we
don't even see the maincharacter die.
I'm like this is like it's kindof the theme of the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Yeah, like when you go into it it's like Moss isn't
the main character.
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Bell.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
I can see like, as you say, bell, but in my head
it's Anton.
Yeah, because we finish.
I know we finish off with bell,but you're like it is bell.
But I guess you would say, ifyou look at like main character
bell, anton, he's not the maincharacter in this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Yeah, uh he's the person we're rooting for yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
It's your person you want.
And Anton didn't even have todo anything.
Yeah, he just got you know kindof like lucky.
Yeah, they, they, they followedthrough with their thing.
And I don't like in my headit's like did he let his guard
down or was it?
I mean, there's only so manypeople you could take, because
if he did let his guard down,there was like two people dead,

(01:31:40):
like two of the cart, yeah, sohe was able to still get it
Because they ran away.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
He had his gun on him .

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Yeah, he had like he obviously did enough where they
ran away because?
Because they didn't get themoney.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Yeah, they were like oh crap, he's armed, let's leave
, he just got unlucky yeah, itjust became too big of a
shootout, like too many people.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
He was probably anticipating one person still
and he got killed in the hotelroom earlier with the other
people by Anton.
He probably was he.
He just solely focused on Anton.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Yeah, it wasn't he had tunnel vision and I think
it's just like you know.
He went, he just wanted to havea good time, cause he's had no
good time at all, and theninstead he should have been
sitting there at the motel,getting a motel room, getting
another motel room, doing allthe, but also the motel event
had it where he couldn't do hislittle trick because it had a
little hole.
It was just like a small hole, Idon't know, I know.

(01:32:32):
The first time I watched it Iwas like whoa, is this dead?
But like every time I'vewatched it more.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
I'm like, ah, I just totally get why it's dying.
If you watch it the first time,you're going to be upset.
But after years of mulling itover because I still remember
this movie very well afterwatching it- so long ago because
it's just such a good movie,and then watching it again, it's
like I know it's coming.
I just feel like it speaks to Idon't know in my head.
It's like he, just like LouAnil, walks up onto a scene and
stumbles upon something.
You don't see it, you stumbleupon, that, you walk up to the

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aftermath and because there wasno like it makes the natural
conclusion make it makes sensebecause obviously they're not
done.
They're still going to keeptrying to get their money.
Yeah, they still got to try tofind this money and they found
their way.
Like there's other players inthis game, they just got yeah,
what they needed.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
We're just following these three people and it makes
sense.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
It doesn't make this weird, like the cartels there.
Along with Anton, they're allfighting each other, type of
thing.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Yeah, that'd be bad.
Yeah, that'd be like what everyother director does.
This is the realistic take ofwhat it does.
Yeah, and it works.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
I appreciate it Still can enjoy the whole movie.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Yeah, and then we cut to later that night and Carla
Jean shows up and breaks downand the sheriffs are Yep, sad,
fucking sucks.
Plus, we know that now she willdie.
Yeah, belle meets the localsheriff and talks about how bad
everything is now.
A local sheriff talks aboutMexico and how Anton is

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comfortable in going back to hisown crime scenes.
This gives Belle an idea andit's also just kind of like
laying more into, you know, likedude, like we're just not cut
out for this anymore, like dudelike, we're just not cut out for
this anymore.
That night Bell returns to thecrime scene, finds the lock
blown out in his suspect'sfamiliar style, we see.

(01:34:18):
So this is going to besomething for this that we have
to talk about.
So we see Chigurh.
He's hiding behind the door ofthe motel room observing the
shifting light through an emptylock hole.
His gun is drawn.
Bell enters Moss's room andnotices that the vent cover has
been removed, the dime and thevent is empty.
So, like you know, I've seenthis a few times.
This is the first time Inoticed, like the facial, the

(01:34:38):
face in the lock, the lock hole,because it's shiny, you can see
, like you know, each other's umlike faces in it.
Just first time I noticed it.
But I don't think sugar isactually there.
Then what do you mean?
Like I don't?
I think that's.
Uh, I think this is the firsttime the movie kind of goes into
, not like almost like dreamlike or like more.

(01:35:01):
I think bell is thinking whatif he's behind that door right
now and I'm about to kick itopen, because when he kicks the
door open, nobody's behind thatdoor, you can see, I'm about to
kick it open, because when hekicks the door open, nobody's
behind that door you can see it.
So I think that we've got tolook inside Bell's mind for a
second.
He goes in, he observeseverything, he sees the vent and
he just kind of sits down.
He's like fuck, I'm too late.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Just like before.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
And that's when he notices he's like I got to
retire, I can't do this Welllike I'm not cut out for this
anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Well, like the whole, like when you talk about Bell,
you can see the thing about whentimes change.
It's different mindset, simplertime, he like, because you have
to think, like all thesekillings that happen If you see,
when he talks about it he'slike he says I don't know, and
they don't like to think aboutit, because they're like this

(01:35:46):
isn't my world.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
This is not what I think there's like, I'm just
gonna be a small town, texas.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Yeah, like, when you talk to people who, like, don't
watch horror movies, like yousaid, you're desensitized,
they're like that.
He's just like.
I can't like, because when youstart to sit there and try and
think about that, you mull itand you analyze it, yeah, and
you start to understand it andyou don't want to because it's
not a part of like, it's not a.
It destroys your worldview andyou see that through the film as
he discusses this stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Yeah, and they do.
I didn't put in my notes forsome reason, but you have the
scene with um uh, what's hisname?
Um, the little deputy that hehas, and he's reading the paper
and he talks about the uh, thetwo older couple.
That guy was getting torturedand they like run out into the
front of the lawn with the dogcollar on and it's getting
tortured and they like run outinto the front of the lawn with

(01:36:28):
the dog collar on and it's justlike.
That was another point whereit's kind of what you're saying
there it's like fuck dude, Ican't do this.
Yeah, I don't like to sit hereand think on this, yeah, and the
guy laughs and he's like,sometimes I laugh about it too.
It's all you can do, retrievedit.

(01:36:50):
And then we cut to bell whovisits his uncle, ellis, an
ex-lawman.
Bell explains, uh, that he'sgoing to retire because he feels
overmatched, but ellis pointsout that the region has always
been violent.
Um ellis says, like thinking itis all waiting for you, waiting
on you, that's vanity.
Because he's like um carla jean, shit, there's so much more in
that and I didn't put enough inmy notes About the scene with

(01:37:11):
them two.
Yeah, because he's also talking, because I think there's like a
little bit about like becauseBelle served a little bit and
like he like abandoned, like histroop, like in World War II or
whatever it might be in the book.
I it might be in the book.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
I may be kind of misremembering the two things I
know that, like when he'stalking to you, said it was his
uncle, right?
Yeah, he's talking about how Imissed a big portion of that
scene where he was his monologue, where he was talking about
dude came out on the porch, gotshot and he died right there and
she knew it was coming, type ofthing.
Yeah, you know what's coming.
I I wish I had time to go backand do this.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
Yeah, because they're talking about Uncle Ellis's
uncle, so it's like an evenolder man and he just like, oh
yeah, because they had like theIndians out of his house and
like I guess he took somethingfrom him and they just shot him
dead there.
So it was like that.
And then by the time the wifecame out they were all gone and
it's like it's always happened.
Yeah, it's something, yeah,something's always, we've all

(01:38:04):
been killing each other forsomething.
Yes, it's it's there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
You just you have like you try and think of, like
he's not cut out for it anymorebecause he's like you don't have
that world view that you shouldhave yeah, you just don't want
it yeah, exactly so then we cutto Carla Jean.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
she's returning home from her mother's funeral his
mother was suffering from thecancer to find Sugar waiting in
the bedroom.
Love it because she realizeslike something's off, because
she's looking at the windowthat's open.
She's like that wasn't open andthen immediately goes in the
door and he's sitting there.
When she tells him she does nothave the money, he recalls the
pledge that he made to herhusband that could have spared

(01:38:44):
her.
So he chose that more than you.
It's like, oh, I'm doing thisbecause of your husband.
It's like he wouldn't want youto do this.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Yeah, he's sticking the knife in.
It's like he.
It's his fault.
You're dying because of him.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Yeah.
And then she says you don'thave to do this.
It's like you all say the samething.
It's always that it, when itcomes down to it, it's this yeah
and then, um, he says the besthe will offer carla is a coin
toss for a life.
But she says that the choice isstill his.
Um, then we cut to the front ofthe house sugar leaves and

(01:39:15):
we're like, did he do it, did henot do it?
Then he checks his boots damn,um so.
And then he drives away.
And then, as he's driving, it'slike a nice quiet little
neighborhood.
You see some kids and then thenext jump scare he gets hit by a
car.
And I love every movie wouldhave had it where you're
pointing the camera on his side.
You would have seen him get hitfrom that angle.

(01:39:36):
But it's like such a scarymovie jump scare that it happens
from the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
You don't anticipate it, because at this moment, near
the end of the movie, it'sprobably going to cut away or
something.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
Then bam Yep Got him and he is injured in the car
accident, Abandons the damagedvehicle, he has two teenage boys
for the shirts and offers themmoney.
The boy who didn't receive hisshirt says half of it is theirs.
Like you still got your shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
And he's still like I don't want no money, I'm just
helping out, show out, showinglike child innocence of like how
, before he's like I just wantto help, but as soon as they get
the money, they're fightingover the money and he's like.
You never saw me because itcalls back to like uh, what I
think bell said he's like, orsomeone else, somebody he's like
, he's like a ghost, yeah, healways wants to be a ghost, yeah
, and he just like walks away.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
No one's gonna pay attention to him because they're
responding to a car accident,so he's just gotta.
He's just kind of in the middleof nowhere, though, so it's
like is he going to be able to?
I guess he does, because hegives back the money and
everything.
So now retired Bell shares twodreams with his wife, both
involving his deceased father.
In the first dream he lost somemoney that his father had given

(01:40:40):
him, and I think that's alljust a dream about what's been
going on with the money.
And in the second, he and hisfather were riding horses
through a snowy mountain pass.
His father, who was carryingfire and a horn, quietly passed
by with his head down.
He was going on ahead andfixing to make fire In the
surrounding dark and cold.
Bell knew that when he gotthere his father would be
waiting, and then I woke up Tick, tick, tick.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
Oh dude, I got chills just thinking about it, man
like the way that ends it andjust like because that's another
way, people probably complainbecause you think after he Moss
dies and like the choices at theend could also really affect it
.
But if you go back and watch itand just Tommy Lee's face and
expressions- talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
He fucking destroys it, Like he's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
It's such like that scene can make you feel empty
because you're like whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
Thing is because, like to me, like all that that's
saying is that he's coping withthe fact that his life is
ending.
Yeah, essentially he's not.
He can't do this anymore.
Feels in the dark when he dieshis father.
Before he talks about like heexpect with the Ellis, he's like
I expected at some point God tocome into my life, but he

(01:41:49):
didn't think.
This is him kind ofcontemplating.
It's like well, maybe this willbe my afterlife.
I get to be there in the darkwith my father.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Maybe he's trying to think of like what's after,
because like there's he'sstarting to see, like maybe he's
like, and I don't know thisscene.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Actually it kind of makes me emotional like I get a
little sniff.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
I get a little sniffly.
That scene got me, but I don'tespecially.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
You know it's like.
You know I had a father passaway, so you know it just kind
of hits.
And then you got Tommy LeeJones's like he's so like saying
the story.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
You can see he's upset, yeah, and I'm like, ah,
it's such a good scene, becauseI was like, whatever I was doing
, I turned back kind of watchedit.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
I was like God, I'm like he, just he.
It felt like an old man tellinga story.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
And you could feel like his heart in that dream and
everything.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
And then it's the ticking of the clock.
Because it just keeps going,baby, just keeps going.
No matter who you are, clock'sticking.
That's no country for old men.
Let's get into the categories.
Hell, yeah.
So the first category the good,the bad, the ugly, the fine
that's where we discuss the goodof the film, the good, the bad
of the film, the bad, the uglysomething that didn't age well.
The fine, something that didage well.

(01:43:01):
I'm just going to let you knowI got nothing in bad.
I don't either, so we'll startwith the good.
We're skipping the bad,probably, yeah.
So what do you got for the good?

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Just in general.
Javier Bodim, the whole, likeevery actor, nails are spot,
even side characters due to thegas station.
They do such a good job.
Like what, I cannot think.
I would be interested to seewhat other people's complaints
are.
If it's just their personalchoice of like they didn't like
certain things with the story orsomething, but I'm like, what

(01:43:34):
is your complaint?
What faults does this moviehave?
What's an error?
You see, what's this and that.
Where is it at?

Speaker 1 (01:43:39):
I think it's the just kind of how the movie like just
ends you know not seeing thekiller, and then it's just like
that's just some fuckingmonologue with this guy yeah,
but that to me like, if you'relike that then, but that's like
standard, that's like generalaudiences type of yeah that
general audiences probablywouldn't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
I'm like, but if you look past it though, what, what
else is the problem?
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
I don't think there is any problem with it.
Exactly, I mean people can findit, because I was, you know,
just kind of went on Reddit tosee like some maybe people that
might had a problem with it.
It's like it is a very slowmovie.
It doesn't.
If you're not into likewatching these people seeing
what they're doing and like howfun that is, then maybe it's
something you're just like.
Can you just get to someshooting?

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
Yeah, if you're that person.
But I'm like if you're goinginto this movie thinking of
something else, it's like thatwhole thing with people like
Joker 2.
Like I didn't know it was amusical, I'm like how do you not
know about movies?
Like it's just one of thosepeople, don't?
It's one of those I can'tunderstand because even like not
watching, like trailers a lotof trailers, even I knew that
was like the big thing beforethey started production.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
I will say, like, because that was kind they hid
that movie as a musical.
Oh, I knew it was going to beone.
So hard Like they tried theirbest not to let out that hey,
this is a musical.
I don't know why most peoplelike musicals.
I guess no one just wanted aMean.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Girls musical.
We tried to watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
LaShawn wanted to watch it.
No good, yeah, she didn't.
She's like I can't.
I was like you, the Coenbrothers, but I'm going to leave
them a little later.
The cinematography yes, rogerDeakins, baby, the best to ever
do it, it's so good because itall feels so real.
That's something you know,that's something you could do,
you could just like when you'retrying to look for a movie, just
like.
Well, let me just go to likeRoger Deak shot, because most of

(01:45:24):
those movies are really good, Ialways want to do that and I
forget, so I'm gonna put hisname down skyfall was him.
I believe I need to go back andwatch that because that movie
I'm gonna put it down in mynotes.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
I took for this movie , so that way, the best looking
movie, I spell his last name ddeacons d.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
I'm not gonna spell it on the podcast, um, but yeah,
I just think this movie isbeautifully shot.
It's great, um, but rogerdeacon, so he does everything.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
It's really good because there's it's one of
these movies I'm like where doyou find a fault?
Where is it at?
And you can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
for certain things I didn't like it, but I just like
I can see this movie, not beingsomeone's cup of tea, but I
guess I could say that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:02):
To say it's a bad say that this isn't my cup of tea.
I would counteract like oh, doyou watch serial killer
documentaries?
Oh, I love them.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
You're watching like psychopathic like, yeah, but
they, they just gotta hear thatconstant noise, this movie's
quiet that's what's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
It adds attention because you're in it, you're
just like, not anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Nobody can pay attention to anything.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
Only five seconds a minute we were almost good when
we banned it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
So all right.
So we're skipping the bagbecause we both have nothing.
What do you got for the ugly?
Something that didn't age.
Well, I'll just tell you minewhy.
You think it's the CGIpronghorn and the CGI like raven
or crow.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Yeah, I guess that would be it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
But I think the bird looked worse because he has such
a close up on it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
I feel like they just like it's cheaper and quicker
just to do these quick scenesand it's uh, it's something.
I don't nitpick crazy on thatjust because I was like I
understand it's just first setup for the scene.
It's so small it'sinsignificant to the rest of the
movie.
Yeah I just have to put it,because the only thing I got-
yeah, because I was like, as yousaid, the ugly, and I'm like
this is like a movie that, likeyou can watch greed greed is

(01:47:05):
ugly money is ugly people.
Yeah uh, drugs are bad I don't,I can't pick this movie apart.
It would have to be somethinglike.
Sometimes I do that.
I'm like, oh, what would be?
Something like I'll go and looksee what some people complain
about.
Like some people werecomplaining about um super mario
brothers movie.
Their complaints were like itwas.

(01:47:28):
I can't even remember it was sodumb.
I was like this is such a like.
No, the story's not serious,it's no drama.
I'm like it's a Mario Brothersmovie.
What were you thinking?
Going in this deep?

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
it's a children's movie, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:47:40):
I don't they were complaining about stuff.
Like I said, your arguments isnull and void to one thing
child's movie, and some peopledon't look past it like, well,
you could do this and that I'mlike you don't you're.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
it's not a Pixar movie, it's an illumination
movie.
They made Despicable.
Me Like calm down guys.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Watch it for fun, like I don't understand why you
have to, like some people, tryand nitpick everything.
You have a negative thing oncertain movies that don't make
sense.
It's like you went into adifferent mindset.
That doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Yeah, like I mean with a Mario movie, it's like I
think it's fine, but like I'mnot going to be like they
shouldn't have done this.
Oh, how could he jump on thatmushroom?

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
This is a video game.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
They're just not doing anything with the story
really pushing it, Though Istill don't understand why we
always have to have them like inthe real world and then go into
mushroom just like start tostart.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
I don't know.
I don't know.
I did the same thing with sonic, where he's like dealing with
people and I'm like we don'tneed this.
It's the same thing with liketransformers why would you
nitpick, mario?

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
we're both just, yeah , you know, actually, you're
right I could see it, but I'mlike it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:40):
I was like I'm not gonna be upset by it where I'm
like let's just put them in thedamn Mushroom Kingdom.

Speaker 1 (01:48:47):
Like why?
Because they did it with theirlive action.
One too, I'm like I don't carehow they get there, Just put
them there.

Speaker 2 (01:48:53):
Well, I know why they do it because they're like,
general audiences are like whyare they here?
Do we need this and that?

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Imagine playing that NES game.
I don't understand the story ofthis.
The princess is in anothercastle.
That's a story, all right.
So the finds Something thataged well for you.
Me, it's the Coen brothers man.
Coen brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
Josh Brolin, brolin, brolin, whatever, javier Bodim
still great actors.
Anytime Josh Brolin is inanything, it's one of those ones
he's in it.
It's like this is gonna be amovie I wanna watch just cause
of him.
It can pull like there'scertain actors you watch like
I'm gonna watch just cause ofthem yeah, yeah, it's just, it's

(01:49:35):
kind of a perfect movie and uhmy, I guess the my ugly would be
like give Javier Bourdain moremovies yeah, yeah, just like,
especially him playing like anintimidating person.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
That would be great, but they really I mean he kind
of, I mean he did Skyfall afterthis.
That was a really good one.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
I feel like he's really good as him he is.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
I just feel like it wasn't used enough properly like
well because it kind of comesin like halfway through the
movie where he finally meets himand they have like that great,
great, like James Bond, thevillain explains everything well
.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
I guess I kind of want it more like in a Casino
Royale where you got more ofMads in it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
I wanted more exposure like that.
Yeah, it was definitely morefocused on a Bond in that one.
All right, man, we got one morecategory, it's the double
feature.
You want me to go first, youknow what he?
is, so I decided to pick it's.
I feel like it's a movie that'sinspired by no Country for Old
Men almost it's called Hell orHigh Water.
It's got Jeff Bridges in it,chris Pine, ben Foster and

(01:50:31):
Foster will make you reallynervous in it, and Jeff Bridges
gives his classicrah-rah-rah-rah performance.
And for anybody out there who'snever heard of it and is
wondering like is there anybodyelse, I would know from it.
It's the writer, taylorSheridan, who does all those
Yellowstone stuff.
But he made, he wrote somereally good movies Wind River,

(01:50:54):
hell or High Water, sicario, Ithink, three Bangers.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Wind River's not as good grown at Yellowstone, but
Yellowstone just suffers from,like someone pointing out, it
would have been good for one totwo seasons, but then they
milked it out for the same storyfor too long.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
And then now we have two prequel series.
All right, bro, what do you got?
Sicario, hell, yeah, so twoTaylor Sheridan movies.
He really is in that bag,though.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
I didn't know it was him, but I enjoyed that movie
just because you kind of have asimilar.
You have Benicio Del Toro'scharacter, who's kind of like a
like another version of antonjosh brolin's in it yeah, and
josh brolin doing his stuff,being a great actor and being
that like I don't know how todescribe it just someone who
knows, seems like he knows hisstuff and is confident in what

(01:51:39):
life, like someone who's beenthrough it, type of thing and
not his first rodeo, type ofthing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
Yeah, and then just benicio del Toro and his story
and his mission that he doestowards the end is similar to
Anton and like his wholenonchalance for certain things,
yeah it works so well and alsoit's a movie like you see the
process of what everybody'sdoing, like the scene where
they're going like through thetunnel and stuff the shootout at

(01:52:05):
the border, the beginning inArizona when, like, the giant
bomb explodes.
Daniel Kaluuya he gives likeanother great sleepy performance
.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
And then, like the one scene in Sicario where she
comes up and says put the gundown, he immediately shoots her
and says don't point your gun atme ever again.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
And just tosses her gun back.

Speaker 1 (01:52:24):
Man and the Jon Bernthal scene.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
Bro, that was really good too.
I was like, oh, I didn't knowhe was in this.
And I was like, oh, this is sogood, Sicario's so good.
That's why I was like this,because when you said we got a
double feature.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
I was like I can't think of anything.
He's like oh no, I love Sicario, I'll think about it, I'll see
what the weekend's going to endup being.
All right, that's no Countryfor Old Men.
Baby Got two greatrecommendations.
Damn, that'd be a hell of atriple feature.
I would say probably start withno Country for Old Men and then
, just because if you startgetting tired watching movies,
the other ones are kind of alittle more action.

(01:53:00):
So start with no Country forOld Men and then the other ones.
Sicario in between, and then doHell or High Water maybe Hell or
High Water is more of a popcorntype of movie.
Oh, that movie's so good too.
But, yeah, thanks for joiningus.
Hey, me and Jason here cuttingin in the middle of this episode
because he wasn't here doing it.
I wasn't, I was dying ofillness and we didn't know what

(01:53:20):
movie we were going to do yetbecause I.
So we're interrupting thisepisode to tell you what we're
doing.
Children of men.
Yay, we just finished wrappingit.
Great episode, A lot of greatconversation.
So, yeah, you have to join usfor it Feel like steamy, wet
babies, yeah, and if you dislikemaybe one of the best movies

(01:53:41):
over the past 50 years thenyou've got to check it out and
find out what the movie is about.
And are there any religiouslike metaphors in this?
I don't know.
Well you'll.
Does it feel like it's?
happening, tell me does it feellike it's happening now?
We don't know, but join us andwe'll discuss it so join us next

(01:54:01):
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So yeah, make sure you comeback to see it, that movie, or
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Tell us why you think this movie isn't good.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
Yeah, and then I'll find you.
And then at the bottom of thedescription we also have our
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If you just want to email us at, we recommend mailbag at
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Tell us how you think Dakotadoes as a guest on here.

Speaker 2 (01:54:40):
And the reason why.
I don't know if Jesse mentionedit, but Jason's sick.
This is the only reason it wassupposed to be all three of us,
this one he couldn't do because,oh well, that's right he had a
doctor's appointment with thewife and we've tried to do no
Country for Old Men.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
This is our third time trying to do it.
Third, yeah, because we did itonce, didn't record.
Then we were trying to do itthat one weekend but it snowed
and I was like and now, finally,now we did it.
Men in Black was the exact sameway, so it's two straight
movies we've struggled with somuch.
Tommy Lee Jones has cursed usbut, yeah, jason can join us,
but he'll be back next weekhopefully.

(01:55:13):
But yeah, I want to thank JoeyProsser for intro and outro
music.
You can find him on X at MrJoey Prosser.
And yeah, I guess that's it.
This has been the we RecommendPodcast.
I'm Jesse, I'm Dakota.
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