Rocky II

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast where every week,we recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason.
There's one thing I want you todo for me.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Win.
Win, because this week werecommend Rocky 2.
Man, does that not get yougoing?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
when you hear that song, the music is good.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I love the music.
He's just fucking like training.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
He's like I gotta train.
I don't know, but it takes anhour and a half to get there.
Yeah.
Oh man Although recapping thefight with Apollo.
In the beginning I thought itwas a great idea.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Because I forgot everything.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
All of it Pissed off.
You should never forget Rocky.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
They're like when they're filming it, they're like
we need something to eat up alot of time.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Let's just play the last part of the last movie
first, and guess what they do,that in the third Rocky as well
they do it in all of themessentially.
Well, the third Rocky.
You get the end of the fightand then it goes into a montage
of him just defending his titleGo ahead.
So I mean, did you like thismovie?

Speaker 2 (01:24):
It was fine.
Damn dude it was fine, I but.
So I mean, did you like thismovie?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
it's fine damn dude, I think the Rocky movies aren't
your bag.
I know, I guess not like I.
Just I literally like tear upat the end of this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
There's just so much not punching.
Yeah, I love those parts.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
it's it you gotta emotionally invest yourself into
the fight.
Is he just too silly for you.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
No, there were some really silly parts that I really
like.
When he's being chased aroundPhiladelphia by all the children
he's like jumping over parkbenches and stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Bro, I can't wait to get to some facts because that
stuff happened, like muhammadali, like when he run through
new york, like kids would juststart following him to run with
them and stuff.
Yeah this movie's accurate bro,this is an accurate movie, so I
was curious.
So we we haven't done too manysports films.
It's essentially the rockieswhich are like my favorite

(02:24):
sports movies.
But uh, what do you look for ina sports film?
I know you're not a sport boy,but I'm not a sports ballman, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I guess Basically the plot of Bad News Bears yeah
Versus a bunch of goofy ass kidswith a terrible coach.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Who's an alcoholic?

Speaker 1 (02:46):
But in the end they win.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
They win in the end with some crazy trick play.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, so you're just like you need some.
You need the sports to be likeheavy into the movie.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I mean not always, I just wasn't interested in
Rocky's life.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, that much I like, so you know know the first
one.
It's about like this down downon his luck boxer that never
made it and then he just gotthis random one chance and
luckily it's a rocky's a guy whocan just take so many punches
the shit kicked out of him sohard that everyone loves it well
, he, it doesn't matter to himbecause he ain't got no brains

(03:22):
anyway.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
So he does not, can't even read no, no, that part was
kind of nice, watching himlearn how to read.
Sitting there watching thiswith my wife, she was like why
does he sound so stupid?
I'm like, oh, because hedoesn't know how to read.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
He only got to the ninth grade.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I mean he shouldn't have gotten past.
My daughter is six.
Yeah, she's grade.
I mean you shouldn't havegotten past.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
My daughter is six, yeah, as she's in the first
grade.
Yeah, she learned how to read.
I just assume he comes from apoor family.
They didn't care if he went toschool or paid attention.
I guess, yeah, I guess theyprobably just worked on the
docks, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
The teacher just taught him how to smoke instead.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Of yeah, he's a fighter.
He can't smoke.
He definitely smoked as a kid,though.
Well, like for me, with asports movies like I kind of
like this you got to really setup like the character and you
got to get them to the fight,right yeah, and I love the shit
between him and Adrian.

(04:18):
They're so sweet and charmingtogether it was.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I did find it charming and sweet.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I just I don't know, just like, and it was
interesting that he's.
He's a boxer and but his firsttwo fights are world
championship bouts.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah well, his first like because he, he did have uh
fights before, like in the firstmovie.
They talk about his record andstuff.
Oh okay, he just never, hewouldn't win sometimes he just
didn't have a proper trainer.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
He would just walk around the ring with his hands
down getting punched in the face.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
The corner is like what are you doing?
Put your hands up Um no but Ilove how the first movie it's
like he finally got the chanceto a big fight and he lost.
But it was great.
He yeah, it was an awesomefight.
Paul Creed rules, but his bestfight of his career.
His career was at the end ofhis career and he's like damn, I

(05:14):
don't even work anymore, I wantto done time to retire.
And so he spent his whole lifetrying to do this one thing, but
never thinking about what hewould do after his fighting
career.
And he's like, oh wait, I'm anidiot, I don't, I can't do
anything but physical labor, I'mgoing to go pack meat.
It's like I just thought it wasendearing that.
He's like, oh well, now I'mthis big boxer, people will want

(05:34):
to hire me for this like officejob.
And he's like, hey, dude, no,I'm sorry.
Like it's cool that you box butyou should just fight more.
Completely punched out of you,it's like can you just keep
fighting till you die, becausethat's what you should do yeah,
yeah, and I guess that's that'sa good point.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Like he, he didn't know, really had no direction in
life.
And like he's, even though hefought the world champ, he's
still like, well, now I could goget a normal job and then and
then he like quickly realizesit's like oh man, people kind of
forget about you pretty quickly.
And you make a lot of money.
Yeah, punching.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
And it's crazy, he only made like $30,000 from that
, which is and he's like, oh, Ican buy a house, a car, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I mean back in the 60s, I guess you could.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
And then it's like, oh wait, oh, that ran out fast
and I kind of love this movie.
Like he's fighting, not becauselike he's like it's not because
in this movie, because he'slike I'm a man, I gotta fight.
It's like all about I have totake care of my wife and kids
now.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
yeah, that's really sweet and it's like sweet should
have just punched Adrian rightout of that coma.
Yeah, and he becomes a doctor.
He prayed it away.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
She was like I cannot keep hearing you read poetry to
me.
I have got to wake up and letyou fight.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
She's just like wakes up.
She's like oh, that's terrible,Stop, Stop, dude Stop.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't even want to look at the paper.
There's probably so manygrammatical issues.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
They just hire him to wake up people out of COVID?
Yeah, that would be amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
That would be awesome .
He's got pathways, no, but youknow like?
Did you like it more than Rockyone though?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, okay, I would assume.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So it's a little bit like they had more of a budget
and it's a little snappier and Iliked he had a lot better
costumes.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Like the fucking jacket with a tiger.
It's like of course he got it.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
He proposed in front of a tiger, by the way, maybe
like the best place to proposeever.
You want to marry me, orsomething.
It's like oh, you want to likemaybe marry me or something, but
I mean, oh you want to likemaybe marry me or something.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
But I mean, dude, you don't, I'll feed you to this
tiger.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Like usually when you go to the zoo the tigers always
are like hiding, Like if you'regoing to a zoo with a tiger
like you never really see him.
You can see him, like behindsome like bushes, Like oh, I see
the stripes a little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Rocky probably smells like meat all the time.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Rocky is like rocky probably smells like meat all
the time.
He was just like it's like oh,the tiger's out, this is a good
place to propose.
His mouth is watering.
And then you know, because he'slike such a sentimental guy
that he saw that, he saw thatjacket with the tiger on.
It was like, yes, holy crap,dude.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
That's the way I feel every time I see a night wolf.
Yeah on anything, yeah likethat is true.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
That's why you're wearing a shirt with a giant
moon on it, with a wolf howlingat it, you know and that's all I
ever see you wear.
Just kidding, he's enoughtonight, today.
Well, we'll hop into some facts, because and they're not really
like like in-depth behind thescenes stuff, but it's
essentially Muhammad Ali talkingabout this movie oh shit stuff.

(08:46):
But it's essentially muhammadali talking about this movie, oh
shit.
So you know, like when rockyspars in the gym, uh, at
mickey's gym, and you got thatguy, he's like you gotta get
faster rock.
And you have that one guy who'sjust like bouncing around, like
tapping his head, and he can'tcatch him.
So that was a real boxer.
Nice, yeah, he's like a boxingchampion um, robert, roberto
duran, um, and and Roberto Duran.
And in 1979, muhammad Ali satdown with film critic Roger

(09:10):
Ebert to watch Rocky II andcommented on the scene.
He said what you see here, ifyou know how to look, for Ali
explained is the differencebetween real fighters and actors
.
A real boxer can see Stallone'snot a boxer, he's not a
professional, doesn't have themoves.
It's good acting, but it's notboxing.
Look in the background, look atthe guy in the red trunks back
there, roberto Duran.

(09:31):
You can see he's a real fire, areal fighter.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Hey Roger's like, hey Ali, you can't eat popcorn with
gloves on.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Just punches him, shut up I don't actually know
how Muhammad Ali you can't eatpopcorn with gloves on man Just
punches him, shoot him.
I don't actually know howMuhammad Ali speaks, but he
continued.
Stallone doesn't have the moves, it's perfect acting.
Though Ali commented about thetraining scene, the regular
average layman couldn't see whatI see, and the way they're
painting the trainer is allwrong.
Look at him there screaming dothis and do that.
I never had anyone telling mewhat to do.

(10:06):
I did it.
Shouting at the fighter likethat makes him look like an
animal, like a horse to betrained.
So I guess the way mickey'slike yelling at him.
That's not.
It's not how ali got trained.
Yeah, he's like stop yelling atme like ali would have just
killed you.
Yeah, if you did that to himyeah and um, so I guess a little
bit more more.
The article kind of continuesto go on.
So if Rocky ran like the actualroute that he takes, it's a 30,

(10:30):
30 miles around that he'd berunning.
So definitely probably not whathe actually ran in the movie,
but maybe I mean he'd train alot.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
You know that reminded me of that movie where
they let everyone try out forthe NFL team and that one guy
did it and he just went on tworuns and he's like I'm ready.
Wait, say that again.
What was the movie whereeveryone wanted to try out for
the Jets or something?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Oh, immortal, invincible.
Yeah, it's Mark Wahlberg.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah, he just went on two runs and that was his
training, he's like I did itdamn it.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm good enough, funny enough, the guy that
that's actually about like hedid.
It's a true story and the guydid make the Jets and like his
big thing that he did was returnlike a kickoff.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Touchdown.
That was part of the movie too,oh, yeah.
Because that's like the onlything you ever did.
Yeah, that was about it, buthey, it's still pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Fuck, yeah, man, I would love to do that Hard.
Yeah, so, and they actually, tofinish off that one thing about
him running they actually doevery year in Philadelphia a 5K
or a 10K marathon held in thecity of Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
It's called the Rocky run Hell yeah, and constantly
playing eye of the tiger.
Yeah, I'd be.
Oh, no, that's just, it's likethe running of the bulls but
tigers.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, I can't wait, cause we're going to continue to
do the Rocky movies, even ifyou don't care about them that
much but next year Rocky three.
That's where I the tiger comesin and apollo creed says the
words I have a tiger 500 timesoh.
I recently rewatched it, so Iknow all about rocky three.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
It is definitely wait so he's not even done with
apollo after this oh, and rockythree um.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Apollo trains him.
Oh yeah, he doesn't want tofight.
Trust me, dude, you love that.
Apollo creed comes back he's.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I love Carl Weathers man, I thought he had a I don't
know rip.
Carl Weathers, I thought he hada bigger part in this movie,
like I thought this was three,maybe I don't know in three and
four.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
He comes back in both of those and I won't spoil it.
So as Rocky ran throughPhiladelphia, he was telled by
groups of kids In fact, 800local Philadelphian children
were used as extras for Rocky'sinspirational training montage.
But they were dropping likeflies.
Yeah, and Muhammad Ali said nowthat's one thing that some

(13:01):
people will say is artificial,All the crowds running after him
.
But that's one thing that somepeople will say is artificial,
all the crowds running after him.
But that's real.
Muhammad Ali said of this sceneI had the same kind of crowds
follow me in New York.
Some of the kids who run withRocky were chosen from
Visitation BVM Catholic Schoolin Balboa's neighborhood of
Kingston, Philadelphia.
Oh cool, yeah, it's cool, it'sjust like.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
It's funny if they get too close and he just
punches them yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I don't know if you noticed in that scene but
there's like two kids fell overin one of them and man, they
just like cover their heads.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Like holy shit.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Trampled All these tiny little feet stepping on
them, and so I guess there wasan alternate ending for the
movie.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Rock has to fight 800 kids.
Yeah, kids, kids are running upthe steps.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
He's like king of the hill style, or just be funny if
, like all of a sudden, like allthe kids are following them and
then you notice they all havelike little switchblades we hate
, we love apollo, we love himinstead um, but yeah.
So the alternate ending hadAdrian actually attending Rock's
match and he like picks her upand puts her on her shoulder and

(14:10):
stuff.
But scheduling issues was thereason they weren't able to
fully finish it, so they're likeyou won't have to do it, she
just got out of a coma.
Yeah, she needs to be at home.
And plus, like bro, wheneverlike he's in the middle of fight
and he's kind of struggling andit cuts to her and she's just
like teary-eyed, I was like, goddamn it, here comes the water

(14:35):
just because of her face she'slike oh no, it's just like.
She's just like stoic staring atthe tv like this, like you
could see, like water in hereyes, it gets me dude.
I don't know what it is aboutthese movies, but they get get
me.
And so I guess he did like whatwas it 20 takes of him saying

(14:55):
yo, adrian, I did it, and hewould do it like I guess more
like yo, adrian, I did it.
But then he finally like hetried one time it's like let me
just be more emotional about itTori's like yo, adrian, I did,
and that was the one they picked.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I thought it was going to be like his bad
commercial that he tried to do.
Yeah, he just couldn't get itright.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Couldn't read the lines.
Oh man, that was brutal towatch, that was rough.
And for the final, the finalfact, I got one more thing.
So, after the bell ringssignaling the end of the second
round, Sylvester Stallone andCarl Weathers are seen pushing
and shoving and taunting andhaving to be pulled away by the

(15:37):
cornermen.
Well, that was real.
They were mad at each other.
Yeah, because they spent months.
They spent months doing thefight like choreographing the
fight, and so some of thepunches that they were supposed
to miss ended up landing, oh,and so at the end they was like
they were really pissed at eachother.
Yeah, good punch hurts, butultimately, you know, like after

(15:59):
the film comes out, they'relike hell yeah, man, that ruled
that we hit each other now.
Yeah, because it went down tothe cards again, didn't?
It're like hell yeah, man, thatruled that we hit each other
now.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yeah, cause it went down to the cards again, didn't?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
it no, this one he knocked him out.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
He did knock him out.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, okay, remember the slow motion knockout.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Did you watch a movie ?

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I did.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I'm just kidding, um.
And in the first, rocky becomesangry when Gazzo the guy that
keeps coming up hey, you want towork at the docks, like his
driver in the first movie saidsorry for the language, but says
that you should take Adrian tothe zoo because retards like the
zoo, oh man.
And then he proposes at the zoo.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
He loves the zoo.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Don't make fun of the zoo.
It's the most romantic placeever.
But yeah, that's what I got.
Oh, actually one more.
So the scene when Apollo Creedreads his letters.
Apparently one of the letterssaid how much did you get to
carry that bum for 15 rounds?
You're a disgrace to yourpeople, people.

(17:01):
I guess that letter might bewritten by Clubber Lang, who is
played by Mr T in Rocky 3.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Also, I got bars and I guess that's why in the next
movie we'll learn that Clubberdisliked Rocky and Apollo.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
I'm not sure if any of that's real, but or if it's
just people theorizing.
That's what it is, but yeah,yeah.
So I guess we should get intothe plot of a movie you hate.
But yeah, yeah.
So I guess we should get intothe plot of a movie you hate.
I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I'm kidding.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I'm here to turn, turn it all around for you, baby
.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
The happiest part of the movie is when Cuff and Link
make a return bro, I put myhands up in the air, let's go.
Cuff, let's go.
Link kinda hoped he would'velike poured, still has those
turtles.
Yeah, they're huge, aren't they?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm not sure.
I don't.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't know what cup and link look like now I mean,
I guess they're just as big asthey get.
He needs to teach the turtleshow to box that'd be insane.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I wish you'd give him a bigger container.
Well, they're teeny, weeny atthis point, yeah, but I mean
they can't move in that thing.
They look even smaller thanthey did in the last movie.
He's got one just sitting on topof the other one.
He's like this is all we can do.
All right, baby, that sucks.
Let's get in this effing film,rocky II 1979.

(18:19):
Yes, all right.
So the film opens with theending of Rocky got a Paul
Creeds successfully defendinghis world title.
Split decision, both fighterstaking the same hospital in the
match.
He's like ain't gonna be norematch.
And then, as soon as he leavesthe ring, everybody's like bro,
you suck, you didn't beat thisguy.

(18:41):
And he's like god, dang it Iwant a rematch now don't say
that I love that he's in thehospital chair.
He's like we can do this rightnow.
And then Rocky, like is he mador something?
Yeah, completely, I really likeRocky's demeanor.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
He's just like oh fuck, especially when we get
later in the film and they havethe press conference.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
He's like is he mad at me or something?

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, he's like do you have anything detrimental to
say about he's like?
I don't know detrimental, he'sgreat.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
He's great.
Is that detrimental?
I don't know the meaning of it,but yeah, so essentially,
apollo's just wanting a rematch,but Rocky declines because he's
retiring, because he can't seeout of his right eye.
Wasn't it like fractured orsomething?
Yeah, I think it was likeBeaten to a pulp.

(19:27):
It's just like off right.
Didn't they have to reattach itor something?
Probably, I don't know howretinas work.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
That's what happens when you put your face in front
of your gloves.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Yeah, you should put it behind your gloves Just like
two or three punches.
Rocky, world-class boxer righthere, yeah, adrian obviously is
like, yes, he's retiring, thankGod.
Even the doctors are like, oohgood, because he yeah, he'll
require surgery for an attachedretina which could lead to
permanent blindness.

(19:54):
Oh yeah, after surgery, paulyasked for Rock's old job of
collecting and then one of thenurse asked for an autograph.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Did you imagine?
Working somewhere and they'relike oh, some of the hazards
around here, just put on yourlittle glasses, because
something could hit you so hardthat your eye falls apart.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, dude, it's a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's going to happen a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
What if I just bump my head and like my eye comes
out Gross, awful.
But then Rocky goes to Apollo'sroom and asked if he gave him
his best.
Apollo said he did love thatscene yeah, just like it's all
dark.
Apollo's like what the fuck doyou want?
they hold hands and I just loveit because apollo's is like god,

(20:36):
why did I have to pick this guy?
Yeah, because he just wanted.
It's like yeah, he just wanteda guy who could beat in two
rounds.
He just wanted to have like ina spectacle.
It wanted a guy who could beatin two rounds, he just wanted to
have like a spectacle.
It's like because I don't knowif you remember from the first
fight, like when he comes out,it comes out as like Uncle Sam,
yeah, and he's like on a littlechariot or whatever.
Yeah, rolled.
And this one he's like, no, I'mcoming out to kill Kendrick

(20:59):
Lamar comes back.
Samuel L Jackson comes out, hellyeah.
So after Rocky is dischargedfrom hospital, he begins to
enjoy benefits of his life'schanges resulting from the match
.
Rocky's new fame attracts himan agent who just immediately,
like, ambushes him out of thehospital.
It's like I'll make you, you'regoing to make.

(21:20):
He sees him as like a gold mine.
Essentially, yeah, he, you'regoing to make it.
He sees him as like a gold mine.
Essentially, yeah he.
The kid comes in a full bodycast and he signs his head.
That's great, that was great.
It's so rocky.
And his sudden wealthencourages him to propose to
Adrian at the zoo, in front of atiger, who he invites to the
wedding.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
He invited the tiger.
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, don't you remember Like after he proposes
I was wondering if you wouldn'tmind marrying me too much.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
What lips are always?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
he had a second chance to do it and he says the
exact same way, but as they'rewalking away, he's like yo if
you can get off on the weekend,you can come you tiger oh, tell
me rocky, one of the greatestcharacters in film history he's
lovable and then you got Adriansays yes, and it's like a
perfect couple.
And then she runs away with thetiger, and then they have like

(22:13):
the small ceremony at thewedding and the guy's speaking,
I guess, italian, and they don'tunderstand it at all.
And then eventually he's likehe says something and they're
like what he's like you can kissher now.
He's like he says something andthey're like what he's like you
can kiss her now.
Oh great.
He's like oh okay, how aboutyou just have it in English?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
wait, I thought all Italians did the thing with like
uh Lady and the Tramp with thespaghetti.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know they just that's how you get married.
They just toss pizza pies inthe air.
Oh, okay, yeah it.
Instead of rice, they justthrow dough in the air, and then
you got Gazzo, gazzo, g-a-z-z-o, yeah, yeah.
At the wedding, asked if hewants to invest in condominiums
where Rock says he's never usedone, because I think he thinks

(22:57):
that meant port-a-potty DangGreat bit.
And I love this next part,rocky carries, adrian like all
the way from the church.
Yeah, and they stop to meet upwith the local acapella group in
Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
They're like a barbershop quartet.
Yeah, just hanging aroundAdrian's like who the fuck are
these people?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
dude.
You mean you just like hang outwith this group randomly.
He's like, hey, there are somegood people, you know.
I don't know, that's my trashcan actually.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I didn't want to say anything.
Don't get close.
The trash can's full of feces,yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
So at the apartment they have what I assume would be
probably one of the moreawkward sex scenes on that tiny
ass little bed that smells liketheir dog Butkus Love little bed
that smells like their dogButkus Love Butkus.
And you know, it's just like avery, you know very little quick
little cute scene.
Like the whole walking up thestreets just carrying her and

(23:55):
she's like are you getting tiredyet, Like you've been carrying
me a long time?
By the way, your eye hurtsprobably, I assume.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I can't say anything.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
He's too dumb to know pain.
Yeah, so, and then we cut to.
You know, essentially, rocky,trying to live the good life, he
goes out, buys a 1979 PontiacFirebird.
Hell yeah, hell yeah, dude, Ilove that car.
That car's great, even thoughhe can't drive, obviously.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Oh yeah, it's great, just a nice thing to have.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah, obviously.
Oh yeah, it's great, just anice thing to have.
Yeah, because as he's drivingto go get this black jacket with
a tiger on it and Adrian a bigfur jacket and some watches,
he's like that was a terriblecar noises I guess you just you
didn't even have to take a testback then to drive.
Not when you're ruffy Hometownhero.
You can do whatever you want,baby.
But yeah, buy some watches,even one for Pauly, and then

(24:48):
Buckus, he buys him a leatherbedazzled collar and then even
buys one for his own wrist.
Rocky does that was great love.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
How much he loves his dogs it should have like
glammed up at the cuff and link.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I was gonna say do you prefer Buckus or cuff and
link.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Buckus or cuff and link.
Buckus is real big yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I don't know how I feel about big old doggies.
I was reading like just kind ofthis morning like a synopsis of
the movie to see what otherpeople put in theirs and man,
like a few of them really thinkthis dog is ugly.
It's got a huge head, like inone article article it said the
ugliest dog of Philadelphia andone of them says the dog that
feels like it came from outerspace and I'm like dude, it's

(25:31):
just a big dog.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Ugly dogs are fun, Just the uglier the better.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, it's so cute.
And then they go buy a nice newhouse.
I love it when they're likewalking up the stairs.
My husband is an expert onbricks.
Yo, these are some good bricks,these brand new bricks.
I mean I love it because youhave Adrian asking questions to
the realtor, like you know,obviously wanting to drive down

(25:57):
the price, but, like Rocky's,like I don't care, let's buy it,
take all my money.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I just want to.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
I don't need it anymore.
I mean, like this place isamazing compared to the
apartment he lived in.
Yeah, the closet that he livedin, yeah, it was like completely
messy Something I do like asthe film progresses, you know we
go back into their house.
They have nothing in there.
Yeah, it's a great detail ofthem just not having any money
after he spends it all.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah, he's not good with money?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Not at all.
And meanwhile we see Apolloupset at the fact people are
calling his fight a fluke andfixed.
His wife's like play with yourkids and he's like fuck it,
throws everything in the air.
You don't understand me.
I'm a man, I have feelings.
What a punch.
Rocky and Adrian happily learnthat Adrian is pregnant with her

(26:46):
first child.
Yo, adrian, you did it.
You did it, you accepted myseed.
How did that even happen?
I hope you didn't get one of mydumb sperms oh, he definitely
did came out too early.
Yeah, rocky then goes to hisfirst commercial.

(27:08):
It goes horribly.
Let's be real, this director'san asshole.
Yeah, it's like obviously youshould have came in knowing he's
a boxer.
You had to hear him talk atsome point.
He does not seem like a smartguy, no, so maybe let's just
have someone else say everythingand just have him in the
background like punching.

(27:28):
Yeah.
It's super easy to work aroundthis.
But he's dressed as a caveman,Looks awful, he's like Adrian
how do I look?
He's like different.
But he can't read.
Everybody's starting to laughat him.
The director is a dick Probablythe most stressful point of
this movie for me, Sure.
Then he tries to do it in aboxing ring, but he ends up

(27:53):
confronting the director andends up getting fired.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah, it was funny.
Whenever his trainer comes tosee him in the hospital he's
like how's my face?
I wouldn't want it.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, it's so good, I wouldn't want it.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Yeah, it's so good, I wouldn't want it, but yeah uh.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
So he's realizing that he needs to make some case,
yeah and I love that when theyput him in the boxing ring for
the commercial, they put thisterrible prosthetic on here's
the thing man just take.
I mean, the guy already haslike a face that looks beaten up
.
Just keep the prosthetics off,it looks so much better.
Yeah Well, his face all fuckedup.
I'm not going to lie.
This director bad director, badat doing commercials has no

(28:32):
good ideas, but I feel likethese are very like 70s
commercial looks, I mean TV, ispretty new at this point.
Yeah.
So we cut to him learning toread in bed with Adrian while
rubbing her pregnant belly.
So we cut to him learning toread in bed with Adrian while
rubbing her pregnant belly.
One of my favorite lines youread nice, thank you, rocky.
You lie nice, adrian, thank you.

(28:54):
So sweet and endearing andyou're like this.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
I think she knew that he didn't know how to read when
they got married.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
I think she knew exactly what she was getting
into, so should you wheneveryou're dating.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Should you like hand your partner a note to read,
just to make sure.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Read every.
Let's go to a restaurant, readeverything on this menu to me
real quick, just one time, justonce.
Read one sentence, then, rocky,he's like all right,
everything's perfect except forthis commercial.
So now I got to find adifferent job.
I want an office job, but noone wants to hire him because
you know, I've said that before.
Yeah, yeah, wouldn't it just benice to have one?

(29:32):
Yeah, like a living Sundown?
Yeah, but nobody wants to hirehim because you know he isn't
the smartest and hasn't finishedhigh school and has a criminal
record a little bit, yeah,because one of the guys is like
any criminal record, not oneworth bragging about.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
The guy's like okay, you're out of here, Shows him a
keyboard and he just punches it.
Yeah, yo, how'd I do?
Got your memo right here, justconstantly looking up porn on
the computer.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
That's all he's gonna do so he then goes to the beef
market and gets a job with thehelp of paulie.
Uh, he's good at the job, butit's a tough job and you can see
he's very unhappy.
He wears his hat the whole time.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
I know it's so cute.
What is going on with him?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
and sometimes he has to wear the a hard hat and I'm
like, but that's just wheneverhe's using it the normal hat on
top of it.
That would be so good, dude,that would be a good bit.
That's a good parody bitactually, but like man, this job
seems tough, dude, You're justlike carrying around like half a
cow on your shoulder Justwalking it around.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, I think you're supposed to put them on the
hooks and like that's what theydo, yeah, but like there's one
part where he's like throwingthem in a truck or something, I
was like jesus christ, dude,that's rough.
Knee packing is a dangerous job.
Yeah, and like they're notwearing gloves a lot, no your
fingernails are gonna fall offfrom bacteria dude you know he
stinks when he gets home.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Uh, speaking of when he gets home, I I love that.
You know he comes home, he hitsthe trash can because he can't
see out of his right damn eye.
Adrian walks out but he doesn'tsee her, and as he's getting
out you can see how miserable helooks.
But then, as he looks up andsees her, his demeanor
completely changes and it's justlike oh man, sylvester Stallone
, he had it in him.

(31:24):
What happened to the guy?
He became too corny and cheesyfor his own good.
Because, like if you watch thefirst Rambo, I mean, it's just
like dude.
Sylvester can act Like whathappened after these movies?
Why did he get so cheesy?
I guess the eighties happened.
Yeah, you just, you'll leaninto it, just the eighties
movies became weird in theeighties movies became weird in

(31:50):
the 80s.
Okay, it became very popular.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, um, but yeah, it's just you know, the
relationship is the heart of theheart of these movies.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I love it such a such a romantic.
It's.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
It's valentine's day almost teach me your ways.
I have to google how to beromantic because I don't know
you google.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
it says like, say Like, okay, what is something
nice to say?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's just like constantly Googling.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
But then he's back at the meatpacking plant and
randomly one day Rocky's laidoff from his job.
He's like fuck yeah.
He's like, oh, he's probablylike the best worker there, but
doesn't have seniority.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Whenever they showed him sweeping up the floor, he
looked like he was doing a realbad job of it.
It seemed like.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I want to know what is anybody else doing in this
plant?
He seemed to be doing every jobat one point.
It's like everybody else islike you, just clean.
I guess he probably had to dothe harder jobs because, yeah,
the grosser ones, yeah, becausehe's no seniority.
Yeah that makes sense.
So he goes to the dock andconvinces Pauly to buy his car.
He blames not being able to seeout of his right eye.

(32:51):
Pauly sees right through.
He's like do you need bread,dude?
I'll just give you money and Ilove it.
Pauly loves this becausePauly's kind of an asshole,
obviously.
And he just loves the fact thathe gets something one up on.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Rock, Like because he can see out of both of his eyes
.
See out of both.
Well, just because.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Rocky's having money trouble, so he's like I can give
you some money.
You gave me this collecting joband I'm good at it.
Apparently Also, pauly, thismovie compared to the first
movie.
He glowed up.
Yeah, because he was bigger inthe first movie movie and, like
um, he lost a lot of weight,like between movies.
Yeah, and apparently it's.
Paul used to actually be afighter himself.

(33:30):
I don't know what type offighting.
I just read something that likehe used to fight when he was
younger.
Yeah, just to fight dogs.
But uh, apparently he was likehe's like, yeah, I lose and gain
weight all the time, it's notthat big of a deal for him.
Oh shit, I was like, yeah, coolalso, he plays a great dick, he
is a dick, he's great atplaying, great at treating paul

(33:52):
era adrian like yeah in thelater movies like they really
like this movie.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
He seems better yeah, he's a little toned down from
the last one the first movie,the third and the fourth.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
He's like his alcoholism really ramps up.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Doesn't he end up like stealing a bunch of money
from him?
I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
I think in the next ones maybe I remember these two
the most.
So Gotcha Rewatching Rocky III,it like kind of starts with him
just being an asshole and adrunk, but then he is like
better for the rest of the movie.
Four is where it's just likereally I can't wait till we get
to four.
Honestly, oh yeah.
Four is uh wild.
Um, so that night Rock ishitting the punching bag.

(34:31):
He tells Adrian that he'sstarting to think about fighting
again.
To her dismay, she offers toget her uh pet shop job back
she's punching it.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
She's like what are you thinking about, rock?

Speaker 1 (34:41):
yeah punching punching, but I love whenever
she offers to get her job back.
He's like what if you get a petshop disease or something?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
yeah, it's like what are you talking?
I think that's just when youbring home a bunch of pets that
your husband doesn't want.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
You think you're gonna get the avian flu from
that.
I will get into the pet shopjob later, but I, I got some.
I got, I got.
We got to talk about adrian andher decision making in the pet
shop.
So Rocky goes to visit Mickeyto talk about fighting again,
but Mickey tells him he can't doit.

(35:14):
He tests him if he can see.
It's like you know he does thefinger test Like all right, you
can see out of left eye, now letme try to your right eye.
And he's like Now it's likedude, you guess, and he's got
the line.
You got the heart, but youain't got the tools, no more.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
He doesn't really have the heart, though.
He just has the desire, yeah,to want to do it Well.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I think he really wants to do it, but, yeah, he
doesn't have the tools he has toat least help at the gym.
But Mickey says he can.
He can, even though he doesn'tthink he should, for his dignity
, because you know, you seesomebody that literally a few
months ago was fighting for thebelt and now he's just like
sweeping up and picking up spitat a gym.

(35:57):
That's got to hurt your pride alittle bit.
A little bit.
Yeah.
Determined to rectify it's sogross.
Yeah, I know it's awful.
Determined to rectify hisboxing career's only blemish.
Apollo ignores all pleas by hisfriends and family to move on
to other potential opponents anddemands his team to do whatever
necessary to go Rocky out ofretirement and to rematch.

(36:17):
He says I won, but I didn'tbeat him.
They tell him if they use thehumiliation tactic, apollo will
come off as the bad guy Love it.
I do wish there was a littlelike more Apollo scenes Of feuds
, like because I love.
In the first one he's just thiscocky guy.
You know, yeah, he is thevillain, but like you love him

(36:39):
Right.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
And in this one he's full on like I will knock his
eyeball out of his head if I canand like I kind of want to see
that version of him a little bitmore.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Hell yeah, like putting a horseshoe in his
boxing glove yeah, just like puta little, like he put um, like
uh dips his hands.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
It dips his gloves in glass like kickboxer yeah, bro.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
So like in japanese, in japan, like, uh, they have
like in the wrestling, like youknow, professional wrestling.
They had matches where peoplewould like just put stuff on
their gloves boxing gloves andthat'd be a part of the
wrestling.
Yeah, bro, that's brutalwrestling.
Got crazy for a while that's soawesome yeah so next day at the

(37:22):
gym, rocky sees a newspapercalling him the Italian chicken.
Yes, that's a turkey.
It's a very good joke.
He tries to ignore it andcontinues working at the gym.
All the guys don't respect himand Mickey hates it Because,
like whenever, like someone likespits into the can and it kind
of makes fun of them andMickey's like.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I wish that, whatever they'd spit into the can and
made that sound, and then yougot Gazzo, the man himself.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Mr Mustache Comes by to see him and asks if he wants
to come back To work for him,but he refuses Because he can't
be about that life no more,because he has a family.
I don't sweep meat no more,well no, this is the collecting
job.
Yeah, he's like I can't docriminal no more, well no, this
is the collecting job, oh theyeah, he's like, I can't do
criminal stuff anymore.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Sure you can I?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
love, gazzo, gazzo.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Whatever his name is, Gazzo.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Like he's, like a nice I don't know what would you
call him.
Like a he's a nice crime lord.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
He's not even a crime boss, though he's just like an
underling yeah, he's just like a.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
He's just like so chill with everybody that works
for him and it's hilarious to me.
And then we get coffin linkbaby not doing shit.
Yeah, they're just like sittingthere wanting to watch some TV.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Hell yeah yeah, I love how he puts on TV for his
turtles.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, it's like y'all want to hear something, even
though they're like sitting onthe TV At home.
He returns, he turns on the TVand sees Apollo goading him into
a rematch.
Depressed, he goes up to hisroom.
He tells Adrian that he'ssupposed to be a fighter and
he's feeling like a nobody.
But she doesn't want him to.
I never told you to stop beinga woman so please don't ask me

(39:06):
to stop being a man.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I thought it was a sweet part they quit being a
woman, quit it, quit doing itit's like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I just feel like, is this like, please, let me
provide?
It's the only way I know hejust doesn't want to be poor
anymore.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
He doesn't want to be poor, but he also is like
risking his life.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, she doesn't want him to die yeah, but it's
just like, please, let me try.
Um, and then there's a knock atthe door because mickey was
watching the same sports programthat he was, or news program,
and he's like god, shut the fuckup, apollo, like kicks over,
like little dinner table thing Iworked on him real well.
And then, like he opens thedoor, it's Mickey.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
I thought you guys should knock his block off.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Adrian is very unhappy and doesn't support him,
though, and just turns aroundand walks up the stairs.
Yeah, I'd be pissed too.
Thing is, I'm on both sides I'mon Adrian's side and Rocky's
side.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, I get it.
He's not good for a whole lot.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Yeah, but it's also like you know, it sucks for her
if he like loses his eyesight.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
She has to be the one that deals with it, you know.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
So it's like you can see both sides of their argument
, but also at the same timeyou're kind of on Rocky's side
more, because, like, if I don'tsee a boxing match at the end of
this movie, I'm gonna go insane.
That's why rocky five sucks.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
So that was the fifth one yeah, nobody likes it and
nobody talks about it, but weare gonna do it.
Is that the one?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
with the robot.
No, that's rocky four.
Nice, that's that batshit.
Maybe so at a press conference,apollo is pissed, but Rock is
being Rocky and doesn't seem tobe taking it too seriously.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
But he doesn't get it .

Speaker 1 (40:51):
It's endearing as fuck.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
He doesn't get anything about the buildup for
boxing.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
He's like I don't know how to act, so I can't be
like him.
And Apollo's not acting.
He's just like I want you allto know I'm going to kill this
white boy.
But it's great, because theykeep like they keep asking what
are you gonna do?
This?
You're gonna get way more moneythis time like, what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (41:14):
it's like, well, I guess I'll just buy this and buy
some puppets for my kids, maybeadrian for the church yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
So I don't know, I might buy a snow cone machine
for Pauly Pauly just in thatcorner, just being like.
I glowed the fuck up in thismovie, baby.
So while watching their lastmatch, mickey tells him he's
going to have to switch to beinga right-handed fighter and not
be Southpaw, because it's goingto confuse Apollo.

(41:44):
And it eventually works.
He tells him he's going to haveto get speed.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
So Mickey has him chase a chicken.
Yeah, that was awesome Chickenchaser.
The whole like switching handsthings.
You ever tried to do anythingwith your offhand?
Yeah, it sucks.
I hate it.
I don't like anything.
You should try, just for fun.
Use your offhand to throwsomething as hard as you can.
Yeah, so Just video it.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Over the holidays all my cousins.
When I went over to their placewe usually throw football and
they all learned how to throwwith their left hand.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Even though they're not left handed.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, they all just sort of try it and they're good
at it, it's insane.
And then I do it and I'm like,eh, and they're good at it, it's
insane.
And then I do it and I'm like,eh, and I was like, wow, I used
to be the one that kind of waslike better at throwing football
, I never.
They all became better than me.
I never learned how to throw afootball.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Really Ever.
I could never do it.
I just couldn't figure it out.
It's so easy.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I know you just got to do it.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
It looks I did.
I played a lot of footballgrowing up.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Couldn't throw for shit.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I mean, some people just don't have the I threw a
game winning pass in a college.
I wasn't playing collegefootball, jesus.
But it was like intermediate,whatever they call it intramural
, and the final play was like atrick play where the quarterback
tossed the ball back to me andI threw like a 50-yard pass to

(43:10):
this guy for the win.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
But it was like flipping end over end all the
whole way.
The guy looking to catch itwould be like I don't even know
how to.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
How do I grab this?

Speaker 1 (43:19):
This thing is going to like rip right through me.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
He just let it hit him and then he caught it.
Wow, that's awesome.
I want to throw a game winningpass I didn't do a pump fake, so
the guy running after me justran into me.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, I was always the guy catching the ball and
like juking and spinning peopleout.
I can't do any of that.
I was very elusive as a youngerkid.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I was more like Rocky in playing football.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, I just hit things, he would just punch you
in the face.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, I'll just use my body as a weapon.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, you're a Southpaw.
You led with your head.
Yes, Because that's.
That's ultimately why they wanthim to switch to being
right-handed.
Because I guess Southpaws leadwith their heads.
I don't know why.
I guess because they're.
I don't know anything aboutboxing.
Yeah, me neither.
I used to love the Fight Nightgames, though.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Oh yeah, those games were fun.
Those games were so good, theywere hard.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
And so yeah, rocky's chasing a chicken.
He feels really foolish.
He has the great line feel likea Kentucky Fried Idiot.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, hell yeah.
I love the idea of chasing achicken, because that shit is
hard.
Yeah, have you ever?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
chased one.
They are very fast Because downat the end of our road, like
these people, just let chickensrun free, and every time they
never run left to right, theyonly continue to run straight in
the direction I'm going.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Man, those things can go.
You got to put something on thefront of your car that scoops
them up, yeah, as you drive.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
So you don't hit them .
He's like these are my chickens.
So we were cutting between Rockand Apollo fighting or training
Apollo, who is training hisheart out and very focused,
unlike Rock, who is barely eventrying at this point.
Like every time, mickey's like.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
God damn it Rock.
He's like I didn't really haveto try hard last time.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
So what's the deal?
Yeah Well, he's just like hisheart's not in it because Adrian
doesn't support him.
This go around.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
He's just like he just family trouble, can't focus
right um, I just wish you'd getto a coma and apollo's just
like lifting off the ground andessentially flying in the air.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
How fast he's doing is like a jump roping.
It's great.
Um, and then finally I can talkabout adrian and her decisions
in the pet shop.
Oh, like we cut to Adrian, whospends almost all day only
moving heavy shit aroundconstantly.
Yeah, that sucks Like why.
Hey, there's got to be someoneelse at some point that works in

(45:38):
this pet shop, that never seescustomers, but Rocky that maybe
they can do it on their shiftmoving all this heavy stuff.
How about we let other peoplefill the food garbage cans
instead of letting her do it ontheir shift moving all this
heavy stuff?
How about we let other peoplefill the food garbage cans
instead of letting her do itconstantly?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
and probably women are not supposed to be around,
especially cat feces.
Yeah, they're not.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Yeah, it can cause problems um, but then like she
moves something a little bit andshe has a little bit of stomach
pain.
It's like stop moving randomtrash cans, Adrian.
Like she's moving everythinglike five feet over and it's
like who moved it in the firstplace?
Who's moving this stuff?
Stop moving things.
It's the only part of the moviewhere I'm like come on, man,

(46:18):
Like she's not dumb.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
She wouldn't be doing this.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
And then Pauly comes in while he's training, noticing
Rocky, is distracted because ofAdrian's decision to not
support Rocky.
So he goes to confront hissister about not supporting her
husband, but she faints duringthe confrontation, is rushed to
the hospital where she goes intolabor.
I love it though this scene,because you know Pauly's always
a dick to her, because I don'tknow why.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Because he wants to date his sister.
That's how I put it.
He's very jealous of Rocky fordating his sister.
Maybe he's just beingprotective in a weird dicky sort
of way, I don't know he's weird, but I love.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
He's like, why aren't you supporting him?
You should be over there rightnow.
And then it's like do you evencare about him if he goes blind?
Pauly, you walk away.
I love him, you don't.
And then, yeah, I'm gonna go tothe hospital.
I love when she has like her,like her, like when she finally
rubs because she's such a shyperson.
And you know, I love it whenwomen start to plead to death.

(47:19):
It's not like that, but it'sjust like she's shy.
So it's like nice whenever yousee her like confront her dick
brother.
Yeah, she doesn't the first onetoo and it's just like she's
shy.
So it's like nice whenever yousee her like confront her dick
brother.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
She does it in the first one too, and it's great,
yeah, but it takes a lot for herto stand up for herself, but
she does, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
And in the next movie she's like a lot less
introverted and stuff.
She's like y'all listening tome now.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
She really got punched out of her shell.
Yeah, she really got punchedout of her shell.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Yeah, so it's.
It's like it's not that shedoesn't think he can win, but
she just doesn't want to see himget hurt and be in worse shape
than he already is.
It's great.
Love it.
While, being confronted byMickey Rock, learns about Adrian
, cause Mickey's like god dangit Rock.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
He's like don't come back here, you piece of shit
yeah, if you're not gonna, Iain't training you.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Ah, love him.
Despite being premature, thebaby is healthy, but Adrian
falls into a coma because ofhemorrhaging yeah, lost a lot of
blood.
Rocky blames himself for whathas happened and refuses to
leave Adrian's bedside until shewakes up and will not go see
the new baby until they can seeit together, because Rock is
sentimental as fuck.
So I'll be like I gotta go seethis baby.

(48:35):
I don't know you gotta see thebaby.
It's like come on, he's gottasee somebody in his family for a
second.
I know, other than just PaulieDon't want him to take after him
.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
I could not want to see a new baby, especially as a
new father, like becausewhenever I was in the operating
room when they when my firstdaughter was born and they
handed it to me, I'm like soscared to hold this thing, like
I didn't know what to do with it, so I just set it down, I put
it where they put the baby.
I just set it on the floor andwalked away.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
No.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Clean up on aisle five.
I said, ew cooties Kicked itout the window.
I was so afraid.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, I could understand that.
I don't know.
I don't know how I'd react if Ihad a baby in my arms.
I can't give you one I got toomany, that's great, I'll trade
you three dogs for one baby.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Give me that bag of Reese's Dang dude many, that's
great.
I'll trade you three dogs forone baby.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Give me that bag of Reese's.
Let's call it even Dang dude.
Good thing this episode iscoming out after Valentine's.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Day Now.
My wife knows what she's goingto get.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Just kidding, I get a Reese's every year.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Reese's, not Reese's, reese's.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Oh my gosh, I'm restless.
Alright Rock goes to pray in ahospital chapel.
That's a cool chapel.
All right Rock goes to pray ina hospital chapel.
That's a cool chapel.
Yeah, very pretty.
I don't know if it's a hospital.
Yeah, because he asked like isthere a chapel here?
Yeah, Philadelphia has greatarchitecture yeah they do.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
That's something I've learned from these movies.
One of the only cities that hasgood architecture.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I have never been to Philadelphia, but I will always
love the city because of thesemovies.
That's cool.
So yo go Eagles, baby SuperBowl champs, let's go Go Boyds,
Beat them damn Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Sorry if you're a Chiefs fan.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
We do have one person from Missouri that listens.
So sorry for your loss.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Wait, missouri, that's not Chiefs.
Kansas City, missouri oh,because there's also a Kansas
City.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
They're not in Kansas , which I always thought Kansas
City Chiefs.
We're a Kansas team, butthey're a Missouri team.
So Mickey shows up telling himthat he has to train.
But if Rocky wants to sitaround praying, then he will too
, because he's got nothing tolose.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
He's like, hey, it's three in the morning.
Yeah, and five minutes laterhe's like hey, remember, it's
three in the morning yeah let'sget the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I do love that scene because he's like he just he's
like we got to do this, but heloves rock, gotta save your wife
.
He loves the rock, so he has towait for him, so we watch.
So then we get like a montageof him doing stuff with his wife
, so we watch it.
We watch Rocky, watch her readto her, write her poems and pray

(51:09):
he writes her a really bad poemyeah, yeah, but it's sweet at
the same time.
Sounds like me if I try towrite a poem for life.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Roses are red.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (51:19):
honestly, it's probably better than what I
would write actually.
Yeah, um, and just anotherimportant thing, just because,
hey, paulie's not not 100% of adick Because he did go to visit
Adrian with some flowers,because he does care about his
sister, but he's jealous ofRocky because he's got a weird
thing with his sister, becauseRocky's in there and he's like
well if he's always going to behere.

(51:41):
I'm throwing my flower down.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yeah, the poem.
I've only written a few poemsfor my wife.
The one she liked the most wasa rhymed smut with butt hell.
Yeah, it was her favorite one.
It was short, it was like fourlines, not even a haiku.
I'd really like to really liketo know what the rest of that
poem was I don't know how yougot to smut.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
So when adrian comes out of her coma, like seriously,
how did you get to smut?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
uh, I don't remember.
It was like roses are redviolets or something.
Something, something, something.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I watch a lot of smut .
Let me touch your butt.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Let's record some smut so I can touch your butt.
I don't remember.
It was very well written,though.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Five out of five.
I turned it in.
It's actually something I wrotein kindergarten.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
It's in the Library of Congress right now.
Holy hell.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Wow, that bit died okay.
So when adrian comes out of hercoma she finds rocky by her
bedside and the couple are showntheir newborn baby, a boy.
That is very hairy.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah, I was like golly dude, look like a baby,
like a baby, like a baby monkey,you know, because they're
always like completely likehairless except for the top of
their head, and I was like wow,dude, a couple of my kids had
hair like going down theirforeheads, like when they were
born, really, just like like a Vof hair going down from like
the middle of their eyes goingup to their head.
Wow, it was wild, your kids.

(53:17):
It's not like that anymore.
Some kids it just happens.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
That's weird, but like it just like eventually
falls out.
Yeah, it just goes away.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
You rub it off with some sandpaper.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Oh, okay, cool, Rubbed right on.
Yeah, just put some Nair on it,but they name their kid Rocky
Jr their kid Rocky Jr.
By the way, Rocky's name isRobert Rocky oh.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
I didn't know he had a first name, yeah his real
name's Robert, robert, yep.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
So Adrian decides that she wakes up and says fuck
it, we ball Fight.
Rocky, you get to fight.
There's one thing I want you todo what's?

Speaker 2 (53:55):
that.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Win what Win.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Where's my money?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
it's like, do you think she was just dreaming of?
Like she dreamed out like the,the next two movies, and like,
damn I'm gonna get some money?
Hell yeah, man with some furcoats or do you think this is
one of those things looks likewell shit, I died just almost
giving birth and it's like hewould, he would he would never
stop me from like well, I guess.

(54:21):
All right, let's break it down.
So do you think it's like?
She's like well, shit, like Ialmost died for working.
So like, why can't I like?
So I might as well just have myhusband like.
If it's like it was my choiceto work at the pet shop and
almost died carrying aroundheavy stuff, why should I stop
Rocky from pursuing his dreamand potentially almost dying as

(54:43):
well?

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Kind of his job to die and to be in pain, but like
I was just trying to think.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
I was like oh, it just seems like a plot
convenience, right, it's likeshe comes out of a coma.
Now it's okay for you to fight.
So I was like trying to thinkI'm like, well, she almost died
doing a mundane task whilepregnant and even though he
didn't want her to, he still lether and everything ended up
okay.
So maybe for her it's like well, I'm fine, it's all going to
work out, so let's let him fight, see what he can do, and maybe

(55:10):
he won't get hurt.
I guess kind of looked at itBecause it is kind of one of
those things where it's like, ifyou don't think about, it's
like, well, what, she had a comaand changed her mind yeah, she
had a very introspective coma,yeah just like, oh man, she just
dreamed about her him fightingclover lane her becoming a boxer
like little what.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
What was it?
Little babe, or god damn itstupid.
The girl boxing movie.
Little miss sunshine, nomillion dollar baby.
Well, I hope she didn't.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
that was adrian's Stupid the girl boxing movie
Little.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Miss Sunshine no, million Dollar Baby, million
Dollar Baby.
Well, I hope she didn't.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
That was Adrian's dream.
I hope she didn't dream of theending.
No, that's when she woke up.
Okay, and you know what time itis, baby, montage time.
Everybody's got a montageMontage.
Even Rocky had a montage.
So you got push-ups,sledgehammering tires, picking

(56:03):
up sticks, one-handed pull-ups,sit-ups, jump rope feedback
sparring One-handed push-up logjumps catch a chicken, punch a
chicken.
Make Colonel Sanders his bitch.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, he catches it.
Colonel Sanders is watchingnodding yes, he catches it.
Colonel Sanders is watchingnodding yes.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Ah, yes, yes, Punches him out.
He's doing the mustache thingfrom Kill Bill 2.
Rocky V I will fight you,colonel.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
He's throwing his seasoning in his eyes.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Release the chickens.
That's what Rocky should havedone.
He should have done.
He should have worked in achicken barn.
Yay, just rounding up chickens,hell yeah.
So we see Rocky put his sondown and we run down the street
to gotta fly.
Now Cheesy, but I love it.
At one point, like earlier,some kids fall and get trampled.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Yes, I love when he's jumping over stuff.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Yeah I'm sorry man I could just watch every rocky
running montage workout things.
It just pumps me up, dude.
Yes, you had all this emotionalstuff and it all led to like we
, baby, we got to fly.
Now it is time to murder peoplewith this.

(57:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
I was training before I was going to go into the army
.
I was running around here andmy wife pulled up behind me in
her car and started playing Eyeof the Tiger.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Hell yeah, I was so pumped it's like let's go, just
pick up the car, put it on yourshoulder, start running with her
, turn it up, babe.
I could do anything.
Just like pick up the car, putit on her shoulder, start
running with her, turn it off,babe, I could do anything.
So then we cut to the nightbefore the fight.
We see Rocky wide awake atnight, apollo in like his dress,
like fancy ass dressing room orwhatever, like looking at a

(57:53):
picture of Rock and ripping itup, throwing it in the trash and
then kissing it all thinkingabout the fight.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Pulling it back out, yeah, unfurling it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
It's a small scene, but I love when they add things
like this where it's just likedamn, this is like such a big
deal to these people thatthey're just like God.
You kind of want both of themto win at the same time.
And then the night of the fightarrives and Apollo has made a
public goal of beating Rocky inno more than two rounds.
The first fight, going the full15 rounds, was a fluke.

(58:25):
The arena is filled but Rockyis still saying goodbye to his
kid.
Like literally it's packedarena Announcers already
announcing for the TV andRocky's like yo, this is my baby
Rocky Jr.
I got to make sure I read him abedtime story.
You'll have to help me out withsome of the big words, but
that's okay.
And he's saying goodbye to thekid and Adrian who can't go to

(58:49):
the fight because of doctor'sorders.
Apollo is already taped up andready to go.
Rocky is heading to the arenabut first goes to a priest to
give him a blessing.
The father's like hey, I can'tthink of anything to say.
You're a good rock.
Hey, rocky, come on, it's a me.
I'm already.

(59:13):
I started saying stuff before Ihad anything to say in mind.
I always do that.
So the priest blesses him, hegets ready and it's time to go
out.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Dips his gloves in holy water.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Apollo seems focused, but Rock is doing his thing,
talks about the robes.
Nice robe, it's real cute.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, it's a fun robe it looks comfy.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
It's like it fits way better than the last one.
Mickey's like yeah, I don'twant to stand on your back.
You can't get a little bit morefocused.
And he's like, if I don't get achance to tell you this after,
thanks, mick.
And I'm like god damn it, don'tmake me cry, rock.
But yeah, rock comes out, getsin the ring.

(59:55):
Apollo comes out with no glitzor glamour.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
this go around ready to knock the rock rocky, the
fuck out so you don't think he'sas confident this time because
he's not dressed like Uncle Sam.
No, I think.
Well, I think he's just like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
He's like alright, I played around last time, it's
time to get serious.
And he's thinking like alrightthat's not his brand, yeah, but
I think this time he's just hisguns are loaded, he's ready and
it's fight time, baby.
Yeah, but I think this timehe's just his guns are loaded,
he's ready and it's fight time,baby.
So fight starts.
Apollo is still kind of cockyand he says he's going to knock
him out, he's going to knock hishead off, and Rog's like.

(01:00:30):
Mickey's like don't let him getto you, kid.
Rog is like wouldn't you?
He's like yeah, I probablywould.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
But then the fight, the chicken's over there too.
Yo chicken, I did it.
Tears coming out of his eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I love it and they go into the back room.
It's like yo, where's chicken?
He's like oh, we're eating ittonight.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
No, I loved you chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Camilla, I wish it was just the chicken from Moana.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Hey, hey, yes, best chicken in movie history, I
think.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
So fight starts.
Rocky's not able to mount muchof an offensive effort through
the first two rounds, eventhough getting knocked down in
the first round and the second,though at the end of the second
round he does get to throw himin the corner and just like
fucking bam bam.
And then Apollo throws him inthe corner and it's like bam bam
.
Rocky's like oh no, bam bamyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
And I love it, like I think at the end, jesse needs
to be an announcer for sports.
He's Mr Calling sir the fight'shappening oh yeah, look at him.
He's like bam, bam, bam bam.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
I love it.
At the end of the first round Ican't believe it, mickey's like
what.
He broke my nose again, but hemanages to.
At the end of the first round Ican't believe it.
Mickey's like what.
He broke my nose again, but hemanages to survive the two
rounds, disproving Apollo'stheory that the first fight
result was a fluke, because nowit's fucking on baby.
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
How many rounds did they go this time?
15.
They do all 15.
But they don't always have 15rounds in a boxing match, I
think they cut them down, likein the 90s, to 12.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, okay, they got them shorter and shorter and now
it's only like four rounds withYouTubers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
The last one of his was like three rounds.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
And they cut down the round time because he's old as
fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
None of them are boxers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
They're not athletes anymore they're.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
YouTubers.
Let's just have youtube fights.
That's what it is now.
That's what boxing I guess itis still it's.
It's weird, like, because Ithink it was, um, uh, one of the
paul brothers started doing itand then all the youtubers just
kind of jumped on the trainbecause they realized, wow, we
can make a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
You could make a lot of money and I would.
I would pay to watch some ofthese youtubers get their asses
kicked.
That would be incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
The issue is they all fight other youtubers who can't
box?

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
oh yeah, I guess you have to spice it up a little bit
.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I remember when I watched the first, it was just
like youtube, like a bunch ofyoutubers started fighting and I
watched it when they put it onyoutube and I was like this
sucks, dude, and there's likethe people that were just
slightly good at it and he'slike, thank god, like there's
like the people that were justslightly good at it and he's
like, thank God, like there'ssomebody that knows how to box
here you get to see it.
There's a slap fighting Likenone of them know how to do it.

(01:03:26):
You know, I mean you can't justbe a good boxer after training
for like four months to and yourfirst fights that.
I mean it's like that's why youhave to train underground and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
But anyways underground like a Hobbit yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Big old feet, but man , first two rounds, Great right.
Oh, there's something what's?

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
there's something barbaric and lovely about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
I feel like they've improved on filming of this
fight, cause you're like they gointo like slow motion,
sometimes much more, much biggeruh budget.
But also I just love um evenall.
Lee said like he loved apollocreed in these movies, because
obviously he was doing apollocreed, like things you know.
Like that, he ain't gonna get me.
And it's like winding up hisfists dude, are you kidding?
He's like here we go, here wego, rocky's.
Like you're gonna hit me, juststands there and takes the hit.

(01:04:17):
And he's like here we go, herewe go, rocky's.
Like you ain't going to hit me,just stands there and takes the
hit.
And it's like Rocky, he waswinding up his punch.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
But that's shit, all he did.
His head shoots off of his body.
He goes ding.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
He's like running around trying to catch it as it
comes down Lands perfectly backon his neck At least my eye
didn't fall out, all right.
But, as before, the fight onceagain reaches the 15th round.
Some great like as they gothrough the rounds, some great
slow motion.
It's so good.
I've seen the sweat pop off ofthem and I'm thinking like while

(01:04:49):
filming I was like, did theyjust actually hit each other for
this?
They had to right To make thatmuch sweat come off of them.
There's no CG.
They had to get the crew to getaround and spit on their faces
and then they could punch eachother Spitting.
But yeah, so it reaches the15th round, by which point
Apollo has built a lead onpoints that Rocky cannot

(01:05:11):
possibly beat, though Rocky didwin some rounds.
Like I said earlier, slowmotion shots rule.
The cuts to Adrian like kind oflike crying a little bit gets
gets me really gets me, gets mesuper pumped.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I got me laughing a little bit, hope that he wins,
you don't have a soul.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
But issue is Apollo wants to knock his block off.
He wants to kill him, which isgoing to be the downfall of this
match for Apollo because, knockhis block off, yeah, he wants
to kill him, which is going tobe the downfall of this match
for Apollo, because he's got itwon, all he's got to do is stay
away from Rocky and he continuesto hold the belt.
But because he's obsessed withit against, the vice of his
corner leads him to trade blowswith Rocky, despite his lead.

(01:05:51):
Rocky lands, like it stillseems like Apollo's going to
knock him out, but Rocky's likethis doesn't affect me.
I got extra bones in my face.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Yeah, his face is just a bloody pole, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
And like oh man, it's crazy how well choreographed
these fights are and how smartthe fight is, with Apollo the
whole time just trying to knockthe shit out of him.
So by the time he gets to the15th round, he's Apollo the
whole time just trying to knockthe shit out of him.
So by the time he gets to the15th round, he's like he can't
even lift his arms.
He's like Jesus Christ and, asyou see it, because Carl
Weathers is such a good actoryou could see him just like his
the weakness and his punches,and it's like well, I haven't

(01:06:35):
really punched, so here we go,First punch here it comes,
starts landing on him and he,like, works the body and the
side.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
His strategy was to tire him out with his face.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
But what I really love is right, because he lands
the last blow.
But it doesn't seem harder thananything Apollo has thrown at
him.
It's just Apollo's exhaustedand he just like one punch and
Rocky's exhausted.
So he like falls down too andit's slow motion.
It's great.
You're like gripping your couchor your chair, like get up

(01:07:08):
Rocky, get up, get up Rocky.
And then, before he's counted,both are counted out.
The Rock gets up, yeah, and hewins.
Fun fact, before we continueApparently in boxing at this
time they would consider Rockyfalling a slip.
So even if he didn't get up intime, rocky still would have won

(01:07:30):
.
But because it would also, hewould have won, but he wouldn't
have won the belt.
Apparently, just like anasterisk.
Yeah, so Apollo would continueto be the champion, but the Rock
, rocky would have beenconsidered the winner.
The Rock, apparently, just likean asterisk.
Yeah, so Apollo would continuebeing the champion, but the
Rocky would have been consideredthe winner.
The Rock, yeah.
But yeah, he stands up.
Everybody's like let's fuckinggo, pauly, adrian flipping their
shit.
You got Gazo with his likeyoung girlfriend getting hugs

(01:07:52):
and be like I'm a nice gangster.
Mickey's over there like goddang it, I'm about to die of a
heart attack.
The chicken's over there likeah.
And then Apollo's crew is likecrying in the corner Anytime
that they cut.
When Apollo's getting the shitbeat out of him, his main corner

(01:08:15):
guy, you get to see him gettingemotional and tearing up.
He's like get away from him,dang it, it's so good.
I'm like pumped up right now.
Hell, yeah, um, yeah, uh,throwing each other in the
turnbuckle.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Man, I love when they do that stuff it's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Just look, the viscera of the fight is amazing.
But Rocky wins the fight byknockout and becomes the
heavyweight champion of theworld.
In his post-fight announcement,rocky, who's won back the
respect of his fans, his wifeAdrian, humbly thanks Apollo.
This is like other than thebirth of my child.
I don't know, what happenedthere?
This is the greatest day of mylife.

(01:08:52):
I'm gonna get a robot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Yo, adrian, I did it.
Amazing End of it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
Amazing End of movie.
Freeze frames on his ugly assbeat up face.
Dang dude.
Insane how rough that looks.
Great prosthetics Looks likesomething just to make it look
good.
Dude, I don't know they mighthave in this movie.
I mean the makeup for theirbruising is so good I don't know
they might have in this movie.
I mean, the makeup for theirbruising is so good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I don't think it's like something that's talked
about enough, like how good,like their facial dysmorphia
looks after the fights theirmakeup artist is just a woman
who knows all about getting theshit kicked out of her well,
that's a bummer to leave thismovie like like Well, that's a
bummer to leave this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
It's like bite him, but that's Rocky II.
Let's go into our categoriesfor Rocky II the good, the bad,
the ugly, the Adrian, hell.
Yeah, the good is something weliked about the film.
The bad is something we didn'tlike.
The ugly is something thatdidn't age well.
The Adrian is something thatdid age well.
So what do you got for the good?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
The good.
I thought the music wasincredible.
It gets you pumped.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
It's always good.
They use all the same music inall of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
It's still good, though, except Eye of the Tiger
is introduced in the third one.
Blasting brass music.
Oh yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Pumps me up For me.
Stallone just was made to playthis part man.
Yeah, it's like he's so good atit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
A lot of times, though, I just couldn't
understand what the fuck he wassaying Really.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
I guess I don't know, maybe I just I've just seen
these movies so much I just knowexactly what's being said here.
Yeah, I didn't have thecaptions on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
It made it a little bit of what were difficult.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Oh man, him and Adrian's chemistry.
Just you know, it just doesn'tfeel like Sylvester Stallone
should have chemistry with anywoman.
But for some reason he foundthe right actress to do it Right
and plus, especially when hegot older, it's just like man.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
He's undateable.
Yeah, he just feels like anundoubtable guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
But of course I'm wrong, because he has a wife and
some lovely kids yeah they havelike a Bravo TV show or Amazon
Prime reality show Does all thekids talk like him?
No, I think he had like threegirls.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
They all look like the wife I think.
That's lucky for them.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
So what do you got for the bad?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
The bad, I don't know , I guess it was a little silly
sometimes.
To me it was, I don't know.
I kind of laughedinappropriately in a few spots I
can understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
he's like an awkward funny dude, yeah, and also like
so when he gets serious, it'slike what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Yeah, I guess my biggest problem with the movie
was I wasn't interested in Hislife, his life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
I guess I mean it was you made it more interesting to
tell me what you thought wasbetter about it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
That's my goal with these Rocky movies.
I'm going to yell at you untilyou like them, or love them.
You'd like them, but just notlove them.
My bad is like not enough.
Apollo.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I needed way more Carl Weathers.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Just you know, he should have been in everything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
We should just get him to do something else he's
dead, I know.
Maybe we can get like a ai torecreate his voice and he can be
a part of our podcast, be ourfourth host, and it won't be
breaking any like laws, right,yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
hey, I have voice snake.
I need you to learn to be likecarlers.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
You're only halfway there, buddy, instead of just
laying here depressed.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I need you to be more like him.
All right, so what do you?
Got for the ugly?
Something that didn't age well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Probably the city of Philadelphia right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Because it's burned down right now from the Super
Bowl yeah, pretty much.
They're like we want a SuperBowl.
Let's tear down the city.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Because, yeah, they didn't show that after Rocky won
this huge fight, that everyonejust burned the city down again.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Everybody tore down every red light.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
It just set the place on fire.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Yeah, I've been watching videos of it.
It's like golly man.
They're so happy thoughPhiladelphia, different breed of
people.
They're so happy they got toburn shit.
Brothersly love, baby theycompetitive people so happy they
gotta burn.
Brotherly love, baby theycompetitive.
Um, my ugly is rock's beat upface just because it looks ugly
not that it didn't age, well itoh boy, just look ugly sucks

(01:13:29):
getting punched.
Yeah, all right.
So what do you got for theadrian something?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
that.
Well, I think, I think thesemovies do age.
Well, I think even.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
They're just the best sports movies that we have.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Yeah, they're pretty cool.
They're pretty fun to watch,even though it was made in 79.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Yeah, I can still watch it.
And this one, I think, is thelongest one.
It's one hour and 59 minutes,yep, I think.
The other ones are like allaround 140, something like that.
The third one's much it feelsshorter, it much it feels
shorter it also just it has morefighting, so you might like
that one.
I did, yeah, I did enjoy that,but I like that one less because
there's too much nonsense in ityeah, that's.

(01:14:07):
There's too much nonsense,there's just not a lot of like
adrian and rock in it.
Yeah so and that's, uh, it'sthe heart of the it's the heart
of the movies for me it's not arom-com yeah.
So the adrian for me was boxingmovies.
I love them, oh hell.
Yeah, all boxing movies are alittle bit good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Even the bad ones are a little good yeah, like I
never saw the great white hype.
I'd like to, but never heard ofit, what it's?
Um, we went to watch in thetheaters.
I went with my uncle and mycousins and I walked into the
blair witch project on accidentand they all just followed me in
like oh, this is normal, and wewatched that instead.
I was like.
I was like, do you guys want togo back to the other movie

(01:14:46):
theater?
They're like no, we're alreadyhere.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
No, this is a real movie about people dying and
everybody had a bad time I wantto watch people scream at each
other in the woods shaking ofthe camera really stabilizes me
dude, that movie gets.
The more I watch that, maybethe harder the harder it gets to
watch that movie, which mightbe a bad opinion, but it's the

(01:15:07):
one I got but I did like the one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Um yeah, boxing movies are good.
I like watching them.
They're fun southpaw, that's afun one that's a million dollar
baby was incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
actually never seen that one.
I I need to watch it.
It's one of those movies thatyou know the ending has been
spoiled so many times.
It's just like I just wish Ididn't know, trying to think
like Ollie.
That's a good one.
You might hear about it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
I've seen that one.
It was good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Yeah, it's way too long yeah but it's like a.
That's a biopic, so they'realways along.
Yeah, all right.
So let's head to our nextcategory Double feature.
It's a movie that goes wellalongside the movie we just
watched.
I picked Ali starring WillSmith, fuck yeah.
Made by Michael Mann, one of myfavorite directors ever.

(01:15:52):
He did Heat, collateral, publicEnemies, oh man, more movies,
movies.
Thief, which we are gonna dosoon eventually, fuck yeah, but
yeah, one of Will Smith's bestperformances.
Yeah, it's great.
You should just check it out.
It is long and pretty slow, butWill Smith does a great job at

(01:16:14):
being Ali, john Boyd's in it,jamie Foxx steals the show yeah,
that's what I remember from it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
Jeffrey.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Wright.
So good, just some of the bestactor Jada Pinkett Smith makes a
appearance.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
I thought Jamie Foxx was Muhammad Ali.
No, he's like the.
I just don't remember about themovie.
I guess I watched part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Yeah, I can't remember Mario Van Peebles as
Malcolm X.
Hell yeah, oh, movie's so good,just kind of takes you through
the history and, like you know,great movie to watch during
Black History Month.
I guess yeah what do you gotfor a double feature?

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I really enjoyed the IP man movies, or IP man, I
don't know how you say it.
I'm going to say IP because itmakes more sense to me somehow.
Yeah, they're really good, it'sin the second one IP man too,
is when IP man, who is a kung fuguy, I don't know, but he
fights an American boxer, hellyeah, he's like super arrogant

(01:17:13):
and shit Sounds like an Americanboxer.
Oh, it's so cool to watch this.
Kung fu is the show yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
I'm assuming he's probably like a lot smaller than
him too.
Yeah, yeah, a lot smaller,that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Love it, Love movies like that.
He does all the like.
He does all like the precisionpunches to his muscles.
So his muscles like quitworking.
I'm just giving the whole movieaway.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
But it's so good.
I just want to know how to dothat.
I'm sure those first two moviesare very popular, so I'm sure a
lot of people that listen tothis podcast probably like those
movies.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
I would assume Better .

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
Hey, ding, ding, baby .
That's it.
That's the end of the round.
That's the end of the match.
So next week, as long aseverything goes well and we
don't- have to cancel oranything we are going to be
joined by Dakota and we aregoing to discuss Sicario, which,
if you listen to our noControlled Men podcast, we

(01:18:08):
talked about that a little bit.
Is it the Pokemon Sicario?
No, that's the.
It's a.
How do I explain?
Is it about catching Pokemon?
No, it's nothing like it.
It's about, you know, um, justlike helping a hitman get into
mexico to take out, like these,like drug lord crime bosses, but
also like the um people thatare helping him are also trying

(01:18:31):
to stop, like the war, like you,drugs from coming in and stuff
like that.
Sweet, it's so interesting.
Emily blunt, john bernthal uh,yeah, I love emily.
Uh, daniel kaluuya um, joshbrolin, denuncio del toro yeah,
I love him.
Yeah, it's just, it's a statcast.
It's, uh, directed by dennyvillanue guy that did doom blade

(01:18:53):
runner hell, yeah, yeah.
So it's badass.
You know it's gonna be a goodmovie and well shot.
Oh, bro, bro, like, what's iton Amazon Prime?
Yeah, yeah.
So you've never seen it?
No, holy hell, don't watch itwith the kids, but if your wife
hasn't seen it, that'd be a funmovie for both of y'all to watch
.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
But I've seen the Benicio del Toro do drug movies.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Yeah, yeah, oh man, there's this shootout like at
the American Mexican border.
Such a good scene, dude.
The beginning of this movie isit sick?
I can't wait for us to do it.
So, yeah, join us next week aswe do.
Sicario, one of the best moviesprobably made in the last
decade.
Hell yeah, so tense, so great.
Josh Brolin, just be likeeverybody.
Listen to me, god damn it.
And if you want to recommendany movies that you guys want to

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Um also, uh, leave us somereviews.

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