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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast, where every week,we recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse.
I'm Jason.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Nobody thinks it'll work, do they?
No you just.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Hold on, I'll just do my part.
No, you just described everygreat success story, because
this week, we recommend SayAnything yeah, anyone ever gives

(00:38):
me a pin, I'm stabbing themwith it.
Yeah, not really.
If someone gave me a pin, I'djust be like I can't believe
they gave me a fucking pin.
If it's a good pin, though, andthen on me a pen.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'd just be like I can't believe they gave me a
fucking pen.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
But then I would be like If it's a good pen though,
and then, like on the drive home, I'd be like I'm going to buy a
diary, I'm going to write myfeelings down Some really nice
paper, I'm going to write aletter and not send it to her.
I'm going to learn calligraphy.
So Say Anything bud, what'd youthink?

(01:13):
Yeah, this is my first timewatching it.
Oh, really, I thought you'veseen it before.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
No, oh, snap did not.
Uh, it was pretty good.
Do you think it was cute andfun it was?
It's very dramatic.
It was a little.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
It wasn't like that dramatic, though I don't know
the part where you just see likethe dad in the bathtub or see,
I've been there, man, I was likeshit dude.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
There's times when I get home from work when I was in
the army Sometimes I just gostraight to the tub turn on the
cold water In your pink bathroom, just like holding yourself
like, oh God.
Yes, and shaking and rocking alittle bit.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well, that makes me sad.
I think this might be probablymy like second favorite romantic
comedy.
It's pretty good, yeah, eventhough I don't even know.
It doesn't even feel like toomuch like a romantic comedy to
me, as much of a just like apoint in time, I don't know Like
a coming of age, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
For both of them Really.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, because it's like I feel like when people
think of this movie, they thinkof it as like oh, this is John
Cusack's movie, this is Lloyd'smovie, and I feel like it starts
off as that and then they'relike but you know, like all the
interesting stuff has kind ofhappened to this, diana girl,
you know?
Yeah, I think it's more aboutsurprising.

(02:27):
What do you think about that?
Like the whole irs thing, Ifeel like, just reading online,
people are usually, it seems,like like what the hell is this
plot?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
old people are so easy to steal from?
Yeah, have you seen the, thedocumentary about the guy who
was um burning the bodies andlike they were doing everything
the wrong way, but they wereburnings.
What do you call itIncinerating or yeah
incinerating.
They're incinerating the bodies, for you know, and then they're
supposed to be giving out thepeople's ashes.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
I have heard of this.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
We watched it the other night and it was.
It was like man, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's a really good documentary, yeah, but they're
just, they're just scooping alittle bit of all these ashes
that are mixed together, yeah,and like it turns out, and is
this also like the same placethat, like they just had, like
their entire place was justfilled with like dead bodies and
stuff as well, because theyweren't getting rid of them or
something.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh yeah, they were running out of room.
Yeah, because they couldn'tburn them fast when people
walked in.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
They're like oh my god, yeah, I do remember we're
here.
Yeah, I guess for you to take.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
But I mean it has nothing to do with the movie.
Yeah, just to say that it's soeasy this.
They're so vulnerable, yeah,and we should protect them we
should protect them.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
But it's just like I mean mean from his perspective,
and I do.
I am curious.
There is like I wonder if Ithought you watched this like
when you were younger orsomething, because I was going
to ask, like how does this make?
How did you feel about thismovie as like a young adult?
And then, like now, how doesthis movie make you feel as like
a father?

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, I guess I can think back to what I would have
thought and would have had somereally bad ideas about
relationships.
Yeah, probably would have beenon the side of all his goons,
the 7-eleven.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
I don't think I've ever been on those sites like in
my entire life.
I was like these guys aredouches.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
They were super douches, but um, so why is there
a kid here?
I think all high school boysare, though mostly for the for
the most part.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, for the most part, I think so.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
But now it's it's.
It was really interesting tosee the relationship between her
and her dad.
Yeah, I would love to have thatkind of relationship with my
kids.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, it's weird because first time I watched I
was like man, the father's kindof a dick, like he's kind of a
creepy ass dude and I was like,oh no, like he, like he's just
the only thing like the daughterhas is him, because you know
the divorce.
And it's like this big thingthat she picked him over the
mother because it's like, oh,you feel safe with me so and

(04:55):
that his mind he's like I haveto make sure she's safe the rest
of her life.
It's like I'm taking care ofall these older people and they
love being at my retirement homeand the family doesn't care, so
I should get the money, I'm theone doing everything because
it's not like I mean, I guess itfucking sucks that he's doing
it, but it's like it could havebeen worse.

(05:15):
Yeah, it's not the worst thingto do.
And it's like he doesn't evenhate Lloyd, he just hates the
fact that there might be adistraction for his daughter.
He just wants her to succeed somuch.
But it is a little creepy.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
I brought a thousand people for my daughter.
You hear that, madeline, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Don't you worry, your dad will go to jail for nine
months and have to pay $125,000back A little prison, baby, just
for you.
Yeah, but what I like, and alsowhen people kind of are talking
about the movie, they're justlike, oh, we probably could get
rid of the IRS thing.
But I think, like CameronCrowe's in his head, is like
this is what happens in people'slives.

(05:52):
Things just shitty, things justkind of happen, and it's all
about like having the otherpeople in your lives, which is
kind of feel like.
A lot of the point of the movieis like she has nobody except
her dad and then all of a suddenlloyd opens up her life and
it's like hey, I didn't knowthere was people at this school,
it's not just my father, Idon't know it's just he seems

(06:16):
like overbearing in some ways,uh, as in like trying to make
her the most successful personever, yeah, but at the same time
he's very open and likeunderstanding.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
And it was like yeah, just say anything to me, which
I think is like whenever.
I was like oh wait the onlytime say anything is mentioned
is whenever it's like with herand her father, and I was like
is this movie about?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
her.
Yeah, I couldn't say shit to myparents, so it was very, it was
kind of nice to see someoneelse.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, talking to their parents, I mean I probably
could say just about anything,but I just like wouldn't.
Yeah, but I'm also like aclosed off guy.
Yeah, I've gotten better, butused to I never said anything
about myself, right?
No, no, I never.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I was like no one wants to hear anything.
I got going on.
Yeah, my parents thought I washomosexual for the longest time
because I would never talk aboutmy relationships with anybody
Bro?

Speaker 1 (07:09):
most of my life everybody thought I was
homosexual, which you know.
Whatever I feel like, I havelike feminine aspects of me, and
on the podcast now, all I talkabout is how hot dudes are.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
The one time I mentioned it I was like, hey,
I'm going on a date and my momwas so excited that she gave me
some money.
She's like, oh good, I thoughtyou were gay.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I love that idea.
Like you tell her, it's like,oh, I'm going on a date with a
girl and it's like, it's likecalls for the father, like all
of a sudden, a banner like popsout and there's like balloons,
it's like he's straight they'relike well, that's a really harsh
way to put it, but thanks yeah.
I like to think that my parentswould have been like hey,

(07:50):
that's okay, jesse, who cares?
But I don't know.
You never know no.
I definitely wouldn't have.
So I want to know um something.
One of the best parts of themovie is the party scene.
It's so fun and it's so fun andit's like lloyd and um, this is
from responsible they're likeso cute that he like keeps
checking up on her and it's likeso adorable.

(08:11):
But I kind of love the group,the cast of characters with them
, like they're all kind of funfriends and just like partying.
I was wondering, I was tryingto think, is like is there a
movie that captures like myfriend, like group?
When I was growing up I waskind of a nerd, so like I didn't
really have that many friends.
But is there like a movie thatcaptures your friend group

(08:32):
Goonies?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, they were goons.
But no, I don't think I havethat either, because my friends
were super dorks, I'd like tothink that like like mine would
be like super bad.
But like G version.
Yeah, not as ballsy, except wedidn't like go to any parties.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
It's just me and my friend hanging out playing video
games all the time.
So I was.
I don't know which version thatwould be.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
There's a reason they don't make movies about people
who do those things, so likemovies about people who do those
things.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So I love the two leads, obviously John Cusack and
Ione Sky.
Again, I think I've said thisin a billion different movies.
But God, they're justaverage-looking people, right?
I feel like they're just like.
I mean they're hot, but at thesame time it's obtainable hot.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
I could have been John Cusack.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Have you ever heard the term office hot?
Yeah, that's what I had justlearned the other day from an
accountant yeah, from ouraccountant friend, and she's
like Jason, you're office hot.
I'm like, oh thanks.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
It's like oh man, you walk into an office with tight
trousers and a button up.
Well, it just means any likejust the smallest bit of
attractive qualities.
Yeah, just because most peopleyou work with are trolls, I
guess.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
I mean it's kind of like season one and two, like
Jim and Pam, right, like they'renot like overly gorgeous, which
is something that ends uphappening in like season four
and five of the Office, whereit's like all of a sudden it's
like how did y'all, right, likethey're not like overly gorgeous
, which is something that endsup happening in like season four
and five of the office, whereit's like all of a sudden it's
like how did y'all become so?
It's like did y'all?
They change your makeup, likeyour hair, especially with jim,
because you know he's gotterrible hair for like the first

(10:17):
three seasons and all of asudden he like starts kind of
slicking it back and I'm likewait, he got hot all of a sudden
and obviously like startedworking out.
But I feel like the same goeskind of with like Pam.
It's like you know she's verylike I'm an everyday girl and
then all of a sudden it's justlike what everybody got
attractive all of a sudden afterlike three seasons, like the
entire, even like Michael Scottgot more attractive how far into

(10:39):
the season did they gettogether, jim and Pam?
uh into season three.
He like bursts into the officeand is like hey she's like doing
her confessional and then it'slike, hey, you wanna go to
dinner?
And then she looks at thecamera and is like what were we
talking about?
And it's like, by the way, Ilove the Office, you know just,

(11:00):
I've watched it.
We went through the seasons andI was like, well, it got to the
bad last season.
That's bad, so I'm just gonnarestart it.
Oh yeah, um, but yeah, I justlove.
Like I was just thinking what'sthat movie?
Um, it has like Glenn Powelland Sidney Sweeney and it's just
like why are they shredded asshit people in this romantic
comedy?
Let's make romantic comediesabout Normal people again.
Come on, not everybody has tobe a model.

(11:23):
Yeah, drives me nuts.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I think it feels better when they're not
supermodels.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
So do you know anything about Cameron Crowe?
No, so he did the movie.
Well, he did a lot of movies, Imean, so we'll start.
This is his first movie likethat he directed.
He also he wrote Fast Times atRidgemont high, which is a book
that he wrote, and then theyturned it into a movie.
Um, you never saw that one.
Oh, it's amazing.
Uh, some fun facts about fasttimes at Ridgemont high.

(11:51):
He was like 20, 21 and he goesback to school.
He enrolls in, like thisHollywood high school nightmare
Um, just to kind of see how thekids are now wrote the book and
then they made it into a movie.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
So it's like, so he was allowed to do this.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, I guess, like he got permission, it's kind of
weird who the fuck is in chargeof this I know right well, it's
in LA, you know.
They're like oh, is this gonnabe a book or a movie?
It's like you gotta do it now.
Oh god, then he does singles,which is say anything but grunge

(12:27):
, um it's.
It's like oh, these, it'sessentially a sequel, to say
anything.
Almost it takes place in the90s, it's in seattle, except
people are like outside ofcollege now say some shit.
Yeah, it's like say some shit ohit's great, though it's got
some great lines, it's not asgood as Say Anything probably.
But I don't know, man.

(12:47):
I kind of really love singles.
It might just be right up therewith it, and then he did.
I don't know Jerry Maguire Everheard of it?
Show Me the Money.
Almost Famous One of the bestmovies ever made.
Have you ever seen AlmostFamous?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
The groupies?
Right, the groupies.
Yeah, or he's the reporter andit's like I am a golden god.
Yeah, that was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
That movie is based on his life, so the kid in it,
like he did that, like he wroteto like Rolling Stones magazine
and stuff like that.
So like the foundation of thatmovie is about Cameron Crowe as
a kid hanging out with thesebands, I guess.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Or just writing about these bands.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
The best way to lose your virginity too.
That was awesome also.
Um, find those women, theydeserve to be locked up.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Um, and then yes, but they were probably only 15,
it's like 70s, right, I meanerrol smith made 500 songs about
it.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
And then kings leon decided hey, what if every song
was about a 17 year old girl?
Because you know it's like shewas 17?
It was like half of kings ofleon's first three albums were
about that.
Yeah, that's not cool.
Um, and then he made vanillasky with tom cruise.
Oh, wow, um, fun movie, weirdmovie, the camera.
Um, super cameron diaz says theline I'll let you come in my

(14:01):
mouth.
That means means something Wild.
Then he does Elizabethtown, themovie with Kristen Dunst and
Orlando.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Bloom no.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Legolas.
What's his name?
Fuck, what's his name?
Yeah, orlando Bloom.
And that movie starts offridiculous because Orlando Bloom
wants to kill himself and hemakes a contraption where he's
on an exercise bike and he'spedaling and his knife's gonna
like stab him.
That's hilarious, it'sridiculous.
So he's at it like a down pointin his career and then he does
we bought a zoo.

(14:32):
You want to know what?
My review of we bought a zoo iswhat?
They bought a zoo.
And then I cried at the end.
So the movie is like a mediocre, like feel good family movie.
And then the fucking ending,jason, the ending to we Bought a
Zoo.
I cried five straight minutes.
It's like this whole part.

(14:52):
It's all about like, oh, youknow Matt Damon's character, you
know his wife, the wife died.
He's got all these kids.
They buy a zoo.
He meets Scarlett Johansson.
You know everybody's life,right.
But then there's this like partat the end and it involves like
the dead mother and it's justlike what the hell?
That came out of nowhere.
I was just like, oh, five starmovie, great Love it, and it's

(15:16):
best.
And then he did Aloha, andthat's a terrible movie.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, and then he hasn't done anything since.
But man, like he just went offwith like Fast Times, Ridge and
Mon High, Say Anything Singles,Jerry Maguire, Almost Famous
Like God dang, and then you knowhe just kind of lost it.
But what I love about him isthis I don't know, he just like
makes movies about moments inpeople's lives.

(15:40):
And it's just fantastic, yeah,and it's great, I love it.
So, yeah, I think that's aboutall that I had in questions and
I'm going to just say moviethings at your face, yay.
But then there's a few otherthings.
So Cameron Crowe credits theenthusiastic review by Roger
Ebert and Gene Siskel as atleast partially saving the movie
at the box office.

(16:00):
Ebert later put the movie inhis greatest movies book.
I should probably get that.
The dojo the box office.
Ebert later put the movie inhis greatest movies book.
Wow, I should probably get that.
The dojo featured in the moviewas also used in the Karate Kid.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So if you recognize it, the show or the movie, the
movie.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, okay.
And on April 30th 2019, thisfilm had a 30th anniversary
screening at the Tribeca FilmFestival with Cameron Crowe,
james L Brook.
He did, james L Brook, he didlike Broadcasting News Terms and
Endearment and I don't know alittle show called the Simpsons,
nice yeah, which James L Brooksreally helped Cameron Crowe
like make this movie.
So it's great, that's cool, andIone Skye in attendance.

(16:33):
When the film ended.
They were joined on a discussionpanel by John Cusack via Skype.
He was originally going to beat the screening in person but
could not make it due to work onthe first season of Utopia,
whatever that is.
During the panel, mr Crowrevealed that before casting
John Mahoney as James Court,dick Van Dyke expressed interest
in the role, to the point wherehe met with Mr Crow and Mr
Brooks to discuss the screenplay.
Mr Crow also stated that earlyon in the casting process for

(16:56):
the part, the production sentthe screenplay to Richard
Dreyfuss from Jaws, who, afterreading it, sent back a note to
Mr Crow that reads as followsgreat script want to play Lloyd,
nice, you know this old man, Iwant to be, the 19-year-old, he
brings all of his 40s like yes.

(17:17):
We're going to need a biggerboat.
Do you know who John Mahoney is?
You know the dad.
He's in Frasier.
Yeah, he's awesome, kind oflike dad.
He's in Frasier, yeah, he'sawesome.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
He's kind of like what he's mainly known.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
He's, and he's in Moonstruck.
I was gonna say we're gonna dothat next, but it's not on
anything.
Yeah, um, but John Mahoney,he's so good in this movie.
Yeah, I was like shit.
I wish he was my dad.
At the same time I don't wishhe was my dad.
And the last one, directorCameron Crowell couldn't find
the love song he wanted until heheard Peter Gabriel's In your

(17:45):
Eyes.
Gabriel asked to see part ofthe movie and Crowe had the
production company send him anunfinished cut.
Gabriel gave permission to usethe song, saying he liked the
film but not the lead characteroverdosing at the end.
Crowe realized that Gabriel hadactually been sent a copy of a
movie called Wire when he kindof overdoses at the end it

(18:08):
worked.
I guess that's hilarious.
He was able to get the movie.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
The song in the movie oh shit, so in your eyes so is
that song in that movie?

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Oh, I don't know.
I've never seen Wire, that'd bewild.
Just thought it was funny,wasn't a lot of facts.
But that was one of theinteresting ones In your Eyes,
kind of a great, perfect lovesong.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's so catchy, it's so weird to me.
When he starts, I see athousand churches like what?
Yeah the fuck are you talkingabout, Peter?
What is?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
any love song talking about it's the light, it's the
heat.
Bro, I am complete.
I see the doorway to thethousand churches yeah, what the
fuck.
Does that mean heaven, I guess,I don't know.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
It's in your it's in her eyes, is that a vagina?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
I guess she's just like so perfect and innocent.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I see a thousand churches in your eyes when
you're open now let's have sexin a car don't close your mouth.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I was actually thinking I love your teeth.
Walking here, I was like youknow, this is kind of a high
school like teenage thing to do.
It's like we really just never.
That's why parents were alwaystelling kids to close their
mouth, you know, because it'slike when you're young you're
just like, always like.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
You know it was so when I'm off in basic training,
right when you first get to your, your training unit and you
start running together, everyonewants to breathe with their
mouth open.
Yeah, and it smells bad becausethey're all together doing it.
And so all the drill sergeantsare like close your fucking
mouth, your mouth breathing it'slike hey drill sergeant, how

(19:43):
about we're running to?
Death over here.
Okay, it's like breathe throughyour fucking nose you asshole.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's hard to breathe through my nose when I'm yelling
all the time, so I guess I wantto know what you think of John
Cusack.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
He's fine.
I kind of love the man, yeah.
I mean I think he's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
He's not like he's kind of weird, he is a little
weird A little bit, and that'skind of what I like about him.
That's very endearing about him.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I don't think he's like the best actor, but I
always like his stuff.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
It's like I'm never upset when I see him.
I'm like, fuck yeah, johnCusack's here.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
He seems really laid back in all of his stuff, like,
oh man, that might be the movie.
I suggest to watch, the doublefeature, the uh one, where
they're trying to turn the uhthe jury when he's on the jury
of a murder and he and he'strying to he's like working with

(20:35):
someone outside to like try toget change over all the jury's
minds.
Yeah, I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I don't think I've ever seen that he's also in Con
Air.
Put the buddy down.
The movie's so good.
Have you ever seen being JohnMalkovich?
Yes, I didn't know he was inthat one.
He's like the lead.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Oh yeah, that's right , he's the guy with the puppets.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Shit.
Should we do that next instead?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Oh, we'll talk about it at the end.
That was such a sexy puppetscene.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, that's why Spike Jonze, who did like her,
cool, yeah, there's somethingjust endearing, but something
off.
Also about John Cusack, and Ithink that's why he's kind of
perfect in this movie.
Yeah, Because he's like, well,he's kind of cute, because he's
like, well, he's kind of cute,but he's also weird, nervous.
I'm like I feel like that wasme.
I like to think that was me inhigh school.
You know all right, so we'recoming to the point of the

(21:31):
podcast where we discuss theplot, and what we want you to
think while going through theplot is what the fuck the point
of the movie is.
Um, it could.
Is it just entertainment or isthere an actual meaning behind
it?
Um, I think there's a meaningbehind it, just like most movies
.
Three, an actual meaning behindit.
I think there's a meaningbehind it, just like most movies
.
Three-three nose woman.
Yeah, it's all about manners orshit, I don't know.

(21:51):
Well, anyways, say Anything.
1989, directed by Cameron Crowe.
Let's go.
So it's graduation, graduation,it's graduation day.
So, it's graduation day, 1988'sgraduation day 1988, for a
seattle high school, lloyddobler, great name, tells his,
his girlfriends, cory and dc,that he is going to ask out

(22:11):
class valley, victoria and dianecourt.
They tell him he is crazybecause she's a brain trapped in
the body of a game show host.
And he is not.
Um, they're like you're gonnagoing to get hurt and it's like
I want to get hurt.
Yeah, hurt me, molly.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
They also talk.
He's like, yeah, I want to goon a second date with her.
And they're like you never wenton a first date.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
It's like no, I sat with her at the mall, yeah, hell
yeah, that's a date.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
It's like, it's just like, you know, high schoolers,
their brains don't functionright?
No, they don't.
So it's just like kind of thislike perfect thing, like weird
thing, like a guy would be likeyeah, we sat together, we're
like practically.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
We're practically in love.
We're engaged.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I already married her , Something I do like about this
movie.
It's one of the few likeromantic comedies where the
guy's not like just beating thegirl down till she goes out with
him.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
It's kind of nice right.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's like I mean he's trying, but he's not like
overly trying to the point whereit's like, wow, I wish movies
didn't teach guys to be likethis.
He's very normal.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, he's just like a nervous guy.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
He's like how many times can I ask the girl out
before?
It's like weird right.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Zero times, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
So, as Diane is getting driven to graduation by
her father, she's practicing herspeech.
Her father, James, is extremelysupportive, telling her that it
is funny.
Like her speech is funny andeveryone is bound to love it.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
She does a joke.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's like I saw the future Go back.
He's like funny joke I've everheard.
Does not work for the place.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
They kind of all land .
You know, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
So at graduation, Diane's speech is a bit of a
bomb.
Nobody laughs, and the onlypeople in the audience who
appears to be interested in itare Lloyd and Diane's father.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
He's the only one laughing.
Yeah, it's like ha, ha ha.
He's like looking around likeoh, I guess everybody's
chuckling inside.
That's my daughter, the goodlady.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Trust me I'm a little weird, but we got a good
relationship.
Everybody shut up.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
My daughter's doing a speech.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
So in the speech she talks about how she is fearful
of the future.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, that was funny how she kind of panics when no
one laughs.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
She kind of goes off book, but it's like a very you
know, like real, and I don'tknow I don't know any of you.
It's something like movies arealways like everybody's scared
after graduation and most of it,like after my graduation, I
went and tried to parkour, soHell yeah, I jumped off a
building, grabbed a tree andlanded and kind of hurt my leg a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Oh ouch, that was great.
We all do crazy shit when we'renervous.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Oh wait, no that was actually before my graduation.
Yeah, I wasn't really scared ofgraduation.
I was like, oh, thank God,right, yeah, that's true, but I
love that she goes off book andshe's like all right, none of my
, you know what?
I'm just going to be honest.

(25:07):
She'll say anything, as long asit's truth.
I wonder what the movie is.
Also, we see Joe at the verybeginning of the graduation.
He's singing here's the.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
What.
We weren't allowed to doanything.
We weren't even allowed to messwith our gowns too much at our
graduation.
They're like if any of you guysmake a fucking peep, you're out
of this graduation.
And it's like why couldn't wedo something like this?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
you like, have a rap battle they're all well.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
It's like you know, at our graduation they're like
this is such a memorable moment,you want this to be like a nice
, enjoyable occasion it's likeyou know what all I remember is
people in the audience yellingthat they couldn't hear the
person telling the speech?
And we're just like shut up.
If we can't fucking throw beachballs around like y'all should,
the audience shouldn't be doinganything.

(25:50):
This is like dude, it's ournight, let us do whatever we
want.
If people want to like have fun, I feel like we should have fun
, right?
Oh, I'm so glad I'm not in highschool anymore.
I hated that place.
That's a horrible place,alright, so, anyways, Lloyd
keeps telling his friends howmuch he loves Diane's eyes.
She's like she's really gotgreat eyes, isn't she?
And this after the graduation.
He's like alright, I want toget a picture with her.

(26:12):
So I'm going to go.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
That was funny.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
And then, like we see , diane, she's getting a car for
her dad.
She like, points at the car andthen Lloyda turns around and
gets a picture with her.
It was so funny when I went toMotlow I got a girlfriend while
I was at Motlow and she startedhanging out with me and like our
friends and stuff.

(26:36):
And my friend Richard had acousin named Zach and it was at
a Tullahoma graduation and hismom took a picture of Zach
cousin named Zach and it was ata Tullahoma graduation and her,
his mom, took a picture of Zachand behind him was my girlfriend
at the time and I was like whatthe heck?
Just like walking by or lookingfor somebody.
I was like what a freakingcoincidence man.

(26:57):
Like who would have ever thoughtthat?
But anyways, he just did thisthing.
Yeah, what was this like?
Cause he was just like that andyou just see her in the
background like looking forsomeone.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Maybe she was in love with him so later that day we
meet lloyd's sister and nephew.
Nephew's super cute.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Lloyd's great with it um I love how his sister's like
don't be her friend, don't behis friend, be his uncle yeah,
when has an uncle been anythingother than just a jackass.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
You goof around with the point of an uncle is to be
like oh, it's a cool uncle, heyuncle.
You're supposed to punch eachother.
That's like.
Mostly what I did with myuncles was wrestle.
My uncle opened up and kissedmy wife at our wedding.
It was really awful.
Yeah, your uncle should haveacted like a friend actually.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, awful, yeah, your uncle should have acted
like a friend actually.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Yeah, that's what I agree.
Yeah, I was a little too oldfor all that nonsense.
But, um, uh, the sister is, uh,john cusack's actual sister
john cusack, oh nice.
Yeah, that's why they lookexactly alike.
Um, but we see she's kind of acurmudgeon and gets mad at him
because she's been divorced andshe's a single mom.
Um, he's like you used to befun.
She's like I did used to be fun, didn't?
I yeah it happens when you growup.
It's like but that's kind oflike what it's showing, what

(28:08):
kind of what the movie's about.
It's like, man, sometimesthings just don't work out and
shitty things happen to people,but you'll find love around it,
especially when you're like akid, because all these crazy
things kind of happen around youand it's like but hey, but hey,
you like this girl, right, thisgirl likes you.
So it's like, hey, maybe justforget everything, go out, go
listen to Peter Gabriel in a carand shake after having sex.

(28:31):
So we see Diane getting a ringfrom her father that was once
her mother's.
So he says Diane feels bad thatshe never got to know anybody
at school.
She's like no, I just lookedout and I didn't know anybody.
It's like, yeah, well, stopbeing a nerd and going out, you
know.
Nerd Jeez.

(28:51):
So Lloyd gets the courage tocall Diane, but her father
answers and he leaves a messagefor her.
He's great at acting nervous inthe bathroom, Like I remember.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Just, you know, like calling a girl, like in high
school, and just walking aroundin circles in my bedroom did you
ever have one of those phonesthat could like you that had the
long you could just carry itaround the house like they do,
because ours were always kind oflike stuck in place in the cord
for the hand.
Yeah, it was art.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Well, we had one like that, but, um, that was like
when I was really young.
By the time I was callingpeople, we had a, had a cordless
thing.
You know, oh, shit, fancy.
Well, you know 2000s I mean bythen everybody was having
cordless.
So shortly afterwards, diane'sfather gets a phone call
explaining that Diane has won afellowship that will allow her
to go to university in England.

(29:37):
She will therefore be leavingin 16 weeks.
Apparently, this fellowship isonly given to one student in
America, so this is a huge honorfor her.
And, like, her immediatereaction is like oh, I got to
get on a plane.
It's like shit, because he'slike stand up straight, this is
a great thing.
She immediately sinks all theway down to the floor and, like

(29:58):
her father's, like you're goingto be so great, the entire
world's going to love you.
You're going to be so great,the entire world's going to love
you, You're going to be lovedon two different continents.
It's like he's kind of a reallygood dad.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
but also it's like chill out dad, like I'm getting
nervous here.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, I don't know Great scene.
It's just like, yeah, it's alot of pressure on a kid, sure,
and she hadn't even had like atrue love yet.
Oh well, yeah.
So diane calls back lloyd andhe invites her to a graduation
party and, much to his surprise,she agrees, even though it it
is unclear if she even rememberswho he is yeah, I love how her

(30:32):
dad takes messages for her.
Yeah my parents never did thisshit, I know hey somebody called
for you.
I don't know who it was and Ilove that, like because uh,
lloyd's like she's really great,isn't she?
And he's like, yeah, she reallyis great, isn't she?
And he's like, yeah, she reallyis great.
And I feel like he immediatelyis like I don't know, I kind of
like this guy actually, and likewhen he calls, she's like I'm

(30:52):
busy this day and then this dayand then this day.
It's like so, so you're morementally busy.
But then, like she eventuallysays yes because he made her
laugh.
And then after the phone call,she is shown looking into her
yearbook expressing surprise.
When she sees lloyd's picture,he's like, oh, that's who he is.
He weirdly sat at sat with meat the moment.
So lloyd picks her up for theparty wearing a khaki trench

(31:14):
coat.
Yeah, what the hell, man, it'sthe 80s, it's normal, it's like
the end of 80s.
Well, he's a weird guy.
His whole life is kickboxingthis is far long before
columbine yeah, and you know,it's just like when I look back
at what I wore, I was like god,I had terrible style yeah I
didn't buy my own clothes, soyou know, the style is what it

(31:35):
was.
I had a bad haircut and badstyle.
Yeah, everything was bad.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Man, maybe I don't like this movie it's maybe high
school to cover up my body.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, well, we weren't allowed to wear trench
coats, you know?
Yeah, it all got ruined All thereason.
So we see her.
She's wearing a white skirt andmatching blazer, with a purple
flower in her hair.
Lloyd meets Diane's father andhe is very gentlemanly and
polite, comforting, nervousspeech.
He immediately comes in.
All right, sir, I just want youto know.

(32:03):
It's like I'm going to doeverything right.
I promise I'll be back in sixto seven hours and it's like how
long is this?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
party.
Hell yeah, he's partying untilthe sun comes up.
He'll be back at 3 am, fuckyeah.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
It's like what a cool dad.
That's the thing about thefather four in the morning.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
She's also kind of she's got to be an adult by now,
right 18 at least 17 or 18graduating one of them?

Speaker 1 (32:25):
yeah, um, so upon arrival at the party.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Hell yeah, party time people are, and then he gets
the worst job.
Yeah, I know the key masterlike what is this?
You go to your friend's partyand he's like you can't drink.
I'm glad you're here, but noalcohol for you.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
You gotta be responsible yeah, it's like well
he gets to drink after theparty.
Yeah, like 3 am when he gets todrive home yeah, right before
he drives home yeah, hey, I meanmaybe this is why, like, the
whole town is kind of cool aboutit, because you know, at the
graduation joe's like we gottahave like three kegs after at a
graduation party after this, andall the parents, parents are

(33:03):
like Is Lloyd going?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Oh, you're good, you're good yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
But yeah.
So people are intrigued by thefact that Lloyd has shown up
with Diane Court.
It appears as if this is thefirst time that Diane has ever
socialized with anyone and it is, and they seem pleased that she
showed up.
It seems that, while herclassmates admire her, very few
know her at any level at all.
Lloyd is given the task of keymaster, which means he has to

(33:28):
spend the entire party holding abag of keys Just rummaging
through people's cars.
Well, he has to like go andit's like everybody's.
It's cool that everybody's likeyeah, here's my keys, man, it's
Were people responsible in 1989in Seattle.
I don't really think so, butmaybe I like to think it's just
because it's Seattle,Everybody's like we're cool in
Seattle.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
We're cool.
Seattle's a cool place.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
It's like we're all good because we had so much
coffee.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
And tossed all its creme brulee.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, so we meet a bunch of cast of characters.
You got Jeremy Piven who'sconstantly going insane and
yelling everywhere.
You have to chill, you have tochill so good.
Corey Lloyd's friend, who wrote65 songs about her ex.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
That guy.
He knows how to not be madeKeymaster.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
You show up drunk, you show up drunk and yell at
everybody.
It's like we don't want him tohave to talk to anybody I don't
want responsibility.
But yeah so Corey makes writes65 songs about her ex Joe and
she sings every single one ofthem.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
I'm going to sing every single one.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
That will never be me .
That will never be me If shehad real friends.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
they would have been like nah girl yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
It's like a lot of people just like listen to her
sing her bad song.
This is the actress is LilyTaylor and she grew up in this
movie eventually to be conjuredbecause she's in conjuring well
that didn't hit.
That was, I guess, a bad joke.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
No, it just took me a second.
She was conjured for a movie.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, for the movie Conjuring.
She all got demoned up.
Joe died and possessed herlater.
Hell yeah, man.
So Joe is there and he's kindof a douchebag, but really I
think he's just stupid.
Joe is there and he's kind of adouchebag, but really I think
he's just stupid.
He's very dumb.
Yeah, he's just like a dumb boy.
Yes, he's not really like asuper bad guy.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
He's just like I, just kind of let my hormones and
testosterone take me everywhere.
It's like this wiener with acarrot with a stick on it.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, it's kind of like one of those things where
it's like, well, he definitelycares about her.
He's just uh, uh, everything isrun by his penis.
It seems like, um, so he lovesher songs.
That uh, she's saying and sayshe will break up.
So you know he's stupid.
Yeah, and he, he says he'sgonna break up with his
girlfriend, he's leaving forcollege and you know it's, he's
just breaking up with her beforeshe can break up with him you
know, um, and now he wants to bewith cory and it's working
until he asks her to have sexwith him, because he just
immediately like, let's get backtogether.

(36:07):
They hug, we have sex with meand good on her for saying no
and fuck off it's like we'rebreaking up and we see Diane and
Lloyd don't spend too much timetogether at the party next to
each other, but at variouspoints Lloyd does check up on
Diane and it's so cute who areyou here with?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
oh, that creepy guy in the trench, yeah, because
he's staring at me.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
She's talking to cory like her best friend, his best
friend, and she's just likeblabbering on about joe and
diane's like I don't know you,and then he's like who you here
with?
Or it's like you know, no one'sas great as lloyd, you know,
kind of pumping up lloyd.
He's like yeah, he's been sosweet, he's been constantly
checking up on me.
He's like there he is, and he'slike it's just like oh, lloyd

(36:54):
is a good guy, he's cute, um,but yeah, um, cory talks up lord
, uh, lloyd saying he's a greatguy.
Diane calls her dad to check upand I love, she's like okay,
yeah, yeah, stop being sograteful.
Just like she's like god, stopbeing so kind.

(37:14):
Um, when the party ends, thereis one kid who's too drunk to
drive, because he was so, Iguess, uh nervous about how he
looked.
He just got super drunk in thebathroom.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
He kept looking at himself in the mirror, going
yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
He's like, oh, what did I do wrong?
The thing is I was like I kindof like your style guy.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I didn't think it was that bad I feel like you kind
of look good.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
You could probably get one date, but it is late 80s
so maybe like his fashion,doesn't?

Speaker 2 (37:39):
He had a date with the porcelain god.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, just got his face on the rim of it.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
It's pretty clean.
Yeah, it was clean.
I would only maybe put my headon the toilet of my bathroom and
I still wouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Have you ever been so drunk like at a bar and you go
to the bathroom and kind of leanyour head against the wall so
you can balance yourself whileyou pee?
That makes it worse.
But I did that once and Ileaned back and I looked at the
wall in front of me.
It was covered in snot and likespit, I was like what have I
done?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
It's like you know what.
Let me add something to it.
I've never been that drunk at abar.
I don't really.
I've never really gotten drunkat bars.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I've never really gotten drunk at bars.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I've only really gotten drunk once at a bar and
that was because that was when Ikind of really didn't know too
much about alcohol and someonewas like, hey, I was last to get
the drink and I was justlistening to what they're
getting and it was a two for onething on certain nights.
So they're all like, yeah, I'lltake two for roses, which was
whiskey, I didn't know what FourRoses was.

(38:44):
So I was like, yeah, I'll do thesame thing.
And then I got him.
I'm like I took a drink.
It's like, oh, this is whiskey.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
It's just whiskey.
I have two whiskeys.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
I got very drunk but like not that bad, I was just
having a good time.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
I've never had a good time.
I've had good times being drunkat bars, but it never ends up
good at the end.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah Well, it was in Nashville and is this kind of
like a hole in the like secret,kind of like hole in the wall
bar where it's just like youwould never thought it was that
nice inside there and it waslike it's just a bunch of
hipsters in there.
And I was like maybe I do likebars, but I'm not driving to
Nashville.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Oh, my favorite bar in Nashville there's an Irish
bar.
Oh really, there's always a guysinging Irish tunes.
It was always, it was so fun.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I've been to the one that's like an English pub type
thing, it's like a restaurantbar.
It's very like you know.
Oh, you like England, you knowtype of things.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
It's like okay cool, how are you walking?

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Hello governor Cooked goose for everyone.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Wait, that's wait is that even English?
It sounded English, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
So Diane and Lloyd drive the drunk guy home, but it
takes them like three hours tofind the guy's house and the way
you know it takes three hoursbecause there's gonna be three
hours of non-commercial radioand then it's like the whole
three hours, three fucking hours.
Because he couldn't find hishouse.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
He's too drunk to know how to get home.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
And he's like oh, there it is, Should have left
him there at his friend's house.
You're just going to go bypayphone and call somebody dude.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Just wait until he sobers up.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Let him drive himself home.
Yeah, so they walk home from a7-Eleven and he does the
sweetest thing.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
There's a tiny pile of glass, that's so stupid.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Oh wait, there's glass Will she bear for it.
No, she's just in her highheels.
I love that he kicks the glass.
He's like you spread glasseverywhere, it was a one tiny
area and then she walks aroundand it's like what, what?
It is really silly, but it'ssuch one of those like because
it's like an, actually animportant thing for her, and

(40:46):
it's like man that is how wethought in high school was like
stupid, dumb things like thatwas so sweet yeah it's terrible.
Lloyd doesn't end up deliveringDiane home until like morning.
It's like daylight outside thetwo.
Do not kiss on the first date,finally.
It's more of an awkward.
Do not kiss on the first date,finally, um more.
It's more of an awkward.
Cute she attacks him with a hug.

(41:07):
It was so sweet because she'slike going in.
Like yeah, she went fullchimpanzee on her, I guess but
it gets like by the end of thisdate i'm'm like this is so cute,
and then it's just like 30 moreminutes of me just being like

(41:29):
aww, I just imagine Natalielistening to you from the other
room.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
No, she was right next to me and I just kept.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I kept turning to her .
I was like this is so cute.
And then I did say like aww,like three different times
that's adorable.
I love romance movies.
You love romance.
I love romance movies.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
You love romance, I love all movies, don't come at
me like that, Don't come at mebro.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
And she goes inside.
Her father's not upset by thelate return, because she called
and that's all he needs.
He just needs one phone call toknow she's okay.
She feels bad about callingLloyd basic because he's like no
, you're not like other guys,you bad about calling Lloyd
basic.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
He's like no, you're not like other guys, You're
basic.
She's got his pumpkin spicelatte, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
And then the dad's like I wouldn't worry about him
because outside, in front of ourhouse, in the middle of the
road.
He's like making kissing to thecrowd and bowing, they're all
giving him a huge round ofapplause and then I'm like at
home on the couch, like that waspretty funny.
That was kind of I've never donenothing like that, but I've

(42:31):
been like in my car like, exceptfor like my first ever kiss,
where I attacked the girl's facebecause I was so nervous and I
was like really quickly wentlike so let's say her lips are
closed.
Here's mine.
And I immediately went oh sorry,I like hugged her, got the car
and I drove off and left herthere and I was like, but it was

(42:55):
okay, it's like, is you know?
It's like the classic thingwhere it's like we'll just have
to practice and I was like, oh,thank god, I thought that was it
, we're under your pillow so youcan practice.
And I was just like I never gotany better at first kisses.
So, yeah, you only get onechance.
Yeah.
So you almost did essentiallythe same thing with my wife.
I was just like we're just likesitting in the car, we just

(43:17):
went to watch the movie boyhood,just like I think I hated that
movie, and then I was just we'rejust kind of sitting there, I
was like I want to kiss her.
Does she want me to kiss her?
Hey, let's just try it.
And then I was like why?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Why do I so?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
grisly go in for first kiss.
I need to calm down.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I feel like there needs to be, if they would
include some sex education inschools, like maybe just high
school, just to teach you whatto do on your first date.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
No, I needed, I think therapy.
Yeah, therapy's good.
I needed to learn how not to benervous, because I'm still in
the same way.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
That's what I'm saying.
If they would have pulled measide in high school and be like
give me a checklist of thingsto do and do nots on first dates
that would be great, like likethe, my first kiss.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
It wasn't like the first day, it was like a month
into the relationship well, okay, maybe, maybe just like a list
of firsts.
My first date wasn't any better.
Yeah, with that girl.
She fell asleep, we werewatching, we like went out to
eat and I'm so nervous becauseyou know, at some point I should
have talked about somebody,about somebody, about how much
anxiety and nervousness I haveum, and then, like we went back

(44:29):
to like, her place.
They had a pool house and welike watched family guys.
She fell asleep and I was likethis is a good day.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, am I good at this man.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
She felt comfortable enough around you to I got false
I was uh probably not a verygood boyfriend in my first
relationship yeah you'll learnsomehow, or maybe I was, I don't
know who knows right?
No feedback anyways.
So lloyd's friend cory tellshim to keep his mouth shut
during a dinner.

(44:58):
Um, because diane has invitedhim over for like the second
date to meet with her father'slike colleagues and business
pals, for a dinner.
I'd be like ooh, what if wedidn't do that for the second
date?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Right, I mean she wants him to meet her dad.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yeah, how about third or fourth date?
Not with a bunch of otherpeople there, because it's like
what is this situation?
It?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
does kind of take the pressure off of him because he
doesn't have to be the center ofthe whole time.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Yeah, but there's always a point where you will
become the center of attentionbecause you're a random guy in
this house with people thatdon't know you, um, but yeah.
So cory tells him like don'ttalk during the dinner.
You do this nervous talkingthing and it ruins everything.
So, which he mostly does.
But at one point Diane and herfather tells a story about when
Diane tried to board a planeonce when she was like eight,

(45:49):
but got so scared that herfather had to tell the pilot to
turn the plane around before ittook off.
And then Lloyd's all like man,you guys are amazing.
It's like I've never been ableto talk to anyone like that.
It's like when he says that andit's just kind of quiet.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I'm like fuck yeah man.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
That hurt.
I feel really bad.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
But I love when they asked him what he was going to
do for a career and I thought oftwo careers for someone with
the name of Dobler One uh, he'sa meteorologist, the other one
is a House elf.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Oh, I was thinking like maybe he could be like a
wasp, like a dirt dobler.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, that would be good too.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Lloyd, could you turn into a wasp?
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I have a perfect job for you.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
But yeah, just like that one little line where he's
like I've never had anybody likethat in my life and it's like,
oh, she's never had anyone otherthan her father.
He's almost never had anyonebecause parents are in Germany.
He's been like, I guess, amilitary brat, the sisters that
was in a bad relationship andnow has a kid, and it's just
like he's kind of never reallyhad a serious thing, Even though

(47:05):
I will say him and his friendCorey, they seem like pretty
cool, chill people that you cansay anything to you know, say
anything to Corey In the movie,all right so, but when asked
what his dreams are for thefuture, however, he disappoints
the adults by not having anyambitious dreams.
He tells them that he just wantsto spend as much time as
possible with Diane and isinterested in kickboxing the
future.
Fuck, yeah, man, and it was.

(47:26):
He was right.
I love his speech.
I don't want to sell anything,buy anything or process anything
as a career.
I don't want to sell anythingbought or processed, or buy
anything sold or processed, orprocess anything sold, bought or
processed, or repair anythingsold, bought or processed.
You know, as a career I don'twant to do that.
That's a lot more directionthan that.

(47:48):
So I read something that thiswas actually him messing up the
line.
So he just kept trying to get itright, and Cameron Crowe was
like this is perfect and that'swhy you see it cut away to the
different people while he'stalking.
That was to hide like hisfacial like being, like buy
anything type of thing, right.
But I kind of love that at thebeginning the father's like I

(48:12):
kind of like this guy, and thenhe gets into the kickboxing
thing and everybody's like what?
I think kickboxing has a brightfuture, yeah.
And then we also see thatthere's a jukebox in here that
costs $9,000, which will comeinto play later.
You don't think it would, butit immediately will right now.
So midway through the dinner,two men come to the door to

(48:32):
inform Mr Court that he is underinvestigation from the IRS.
He gets agitated and tells themto visit him at his office.
It's like wait, what?
Right, because it's just likeit's nighttime.
It's like why?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Why is this part in?

Speaker 1 (48:44):
the movie?
And also, why did him and Dianeanswer the door at the same
time?

Speaker 2 (48:48):
They do everything.
It is kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
So Diane goes to visit her mom and asks her to
please say something nice abouther father if the IRS is ask,
ask anything.
And she's like, can we justtalk about boys or something?
I'm your mom, I'm boy crazy.
Diane invites Lloyd to visither at her job at the retirement
home.
Lloyd is scared of old peoplebecause it makes them think
about dying.
Diane gets mad at him and Lloydimmediately changes his mind.

(49:13):
It's like all of it's like youknow, it's like I just see him
eat and then I'm like and thenshe's like that's ageism.
Yeah, how would you feel ifsomeone said that about you when
you're older and he's like youknow?
You're immediately turning mearound on this, just like love
being that age and like nothingmatters.
It's just like, oh, I believein this.

(49:34):
Oh wait, oh wait.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
You're going to break up with me.
At least he's willing to changehis mind.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
It's like never mind, I don't believe in anything.
Whatever you believe in, yeah,it's great.
So Lloyd's at the retirementhome they're super cute together
.
They look really good Playingcocoon.
Yeah, and he plays cocoon forthese old people, it's so great.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
This is the oldest movie ever.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah, it's great and that's got like Wilford Brimley
in it right, Diabetes guy.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
And it's like was he ever young?
No, was he ever.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
No.
And then we see like Diane'sreally liking Lloyd and it's
like, ah, it's just getting socute.
So they go get coffee togetherand Diane tells Lloyd that she
is just too stressed out to getinto anything deep with Lloyd
because of her move and the IRSinvestigation.
They agree to be friends withpotential Uh-oh, not benefits.

(50:27):
And guess what People who likeeach other that try to be
friends with benefits it alwaysturns into a relationship and
then doesn't work out.
So this status changes.
While Lloyd is teaching Dianehow to drive stick shift, she's
barely catching on, but enjoyingthe process.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Hey, she did better than I did.
She was yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I floated a truck the first time yeah, but I also was
being taught literally.
My uncle said this is going tobe the hardest car you ever
drive.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
So if you can drive this, you can drive any stick
shift and I was like cool, youcan dodge a wrench, you can
dodge a ball, jesse.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I was like I'm pretty sure I'll figure it out.
20 minutes later it's like,well, we're gonna have to leave
the truck here and we're gonnahave to go get somebody.
That's like maybe an easier carnext time.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I don't know my dad just gave me.
He let me borrow his truckwhile they were working on the
roof.
And, uh, they sat up there onthe roof and watched me.
I had no instruction, it's justlike here, drive it.
And I just saw.
I out there for like four hoursTrying to figure out what to do
and I finally figured it out.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
It's just like three hours and thirty minutes in.
You gotta hit the clutch.
What's?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
the clutch.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I thought all cars just had 15 pedals in here Whole
time you had the parking brakeon.
Yeah, I really I wish I knewhow to drive stick.
I should just find someone witha stick and be like teach me,
give me that stick.
Yep.
So at one point the two getquite close and Lloyd plants a

(51:53):
kiss on her, which she accepts,and it grows.
They kiss a few more time andthen decide to drive somewhere
more private and then you kindof get like a montage of them
just kissing places andeventually we see Diane and
Lloyd parked in Lloyd's car bythe seat.
The two appear to have just hadsex underneath some blankets in
the back seat.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
How scratchy does that blanket look?
It looks like one of those thatcome on a pull-out mattress at
a hotel.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
It looks like a lot of blankets I had growing up.
Specifically remember one withBatman on it.
Hell yeah.
So the they're underneath someblankets.
In the backseat, diane remarkshow Lloyd is shaking.
She thinks it's because he'scold, but he explains he's just
so happy.
He's like I'm a diabetic andit's like also like I've never

(52:35):
had sex, so like a lot of thingsjust exploded.
My mind is open.
Yeah, my mind is open.
Yeah, my third eye is yeah, andthen like they're kind of
talking and he's like she's likeshut up, listen to the song she
tells him that this is whatclarity is, because it's so nice
.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
And then it's like aww, aww in your eyes, and then
the song just kind of goes alittle bit and he's like in your
eyes, the heat in your eyes,your eyes, so good.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
So in the morning Diane arrives home to a dad
who's quite upset with her.
Unlike the previous all-nighter, she failed to call him this
time around and that's the onlything you know.
Like he's still not that upset,he's just like this is bullshit
, but still not that mean aboutit.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Yeah, he was just upset, he's just like, I just
want one phone call which youknow as a high schooler.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
It's probably like, oh, I got to call my dad, but
really it's like, well, if he'snot going to get mad at you,
it's not that bad yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
What do you think the best song to have sex to is?

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Closer by Nine Inch Nails.
Nice, I want to fuck you likean album.
Hell yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Just kidding.
No, but when we and Ali arehaving a conversation.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
It's like I think we're just like what's like the
sexiest song.
It's like it's probably Closer.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, Well, we were the funniest one was we were
listening to the radio and hey,ya was real big.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Hey, ya, yeah, it's really hot when it's just like
the polaroid picture.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
just over and over.
We were just dying laughing.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah, that was so fun .
Yeah, I don't know what, likethe most romantic song to have
sex with would be shake itprobably uh what's that jeff box
jeff boxworthy song, buckleysong.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
He's like you might be a redneck if you're having
sex.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
It's not hallelujah.
Buckley lover you should havecome over.
I love that song, lover, youshould come over.
That's like a very good song,um like backdoor Santa.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
I've never heard of that one, uh, santa better get
away from there though so it'sabout a guy who goes from house
to house having sex with womenwhile their husbands are at work
oh nice, hey way to go, santa.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
So at this point she mentions how she feels free to
say anything to her dad.
She's like you can say anythingto me, roll credits that's like
their.
Yeah, it's a great mantra.
So she tells her dad everythingabout her and Lloyd's
relationship.
She brings up the glass thingfrom earlier where she kicked
some glass because it's like Idon't know sweet, I loved it.

(55:13):
She says she never gets nervouswith him.
She explains that she firstwanted to avoid doing anything
serious like sex with him, butin the end she just attacked him
.
Yes, serious like sex with him,but in the end.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
She just attacked him , yes, buried him on the beat.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, out of your hell, it was a very it follows
situation.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
As a father, you should own an incinerator.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Yeah right, while her father isn't upset at her, he
clearly isn't thrilled to behearing this from her daughter.
Then we see Lloyd is with Coreyand another friend.
They figure out he has had sex.
By the way he's acting, coreytells him everything has changed
because, no matter what or when, he will always know that they
had sex.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
He's singing that I just had sex.
I just had sex and it felt sogood.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
He says he wrote Diane a letter and it says I
will always be there for you.
All the love in my heart.
It's like like DC and Corey arethere and it's just like.
He's like was that good?
Corey's like yeah, I love LilyTaylor in this movie.
She's so great.
And even DC I don't know theactress very well, but like

(56:26):
they're kind of two perfectfriends, yeah.
And then we see Diane's fathergetting pressed by the IRS.
This added strain between Dianeand her father seems to be too
much for her to handle.
Her father suggests that shebreak up with Lloyd to help make
her life simpler.
He suggests that she could givehim something for him to
remember her by, such as a pinwhich he gives her um.

(56:49):
She also says she loves him forthe first time to the father.
Um, diane's father is strugglingwith irs stuff and her daughter
is flying the coop.
He's scared to lose hisdaughter, but this makes diane
feel bad because he's like maybeI'm just being selfish and kind
of walks away and it's like Iwas so confused at this point,
when the IRS were talking to himat the nursing home and he's
pouring coffee, they're like whyaren't you making more money?

Speaker 2 (57:11):
yeah, is that the crime?
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
I think it's the thing.
It's like you haven't raisedany of your prices, which you
should have been doing, likeover the I don't know decades.
He's probably had the and it'slike so how are you making money
right now?
It's like you seem to bewealthy but you're not upping
your prices.
And it's like, I don't know man, leave these old people alone.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Let them have their small prices.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
I don't care what happens to my shit after I die.
True.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
You put it into a trust.
That's what rich people do so.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Next time.
We see Diane and Lloyd drivingaround and they talk about the
letter, Lloyd tells her he lovesher.
She doesn't want to hear it,though, because she breaks up
with them.
No, this is a very painful,like slow breakup, it hurt to
watch.
And it also kind of is aperfect great breakup scene,

(58:00):
Because the point where sheturns around and she's like
right, and it's just immediatelyreminded me of just the awkward
moment when it's like shit,we're breaking up and now we're
just sitting here and itcaptured that moment really well
, that's another lesson I wish Iwould have learned how to break
up and to be broken up with.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, yeah, that should be something.
You should get a little headsup.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
There is no way to do it be like hey, you're gonna
feel like shit yeah and it'sthis it's just you're gonna, and
when you break up, you're gonnabe thinking about it for a week
and then finally you're justgonna blurt it out and it's not
gonna go.
Well, I'm gonna write a bunchof songs about yeah, um, and I
just like, just like that, likethe breakup.
She eventually, like, ends upbeing like shit.

(58:45):
I guess I better give him a pin.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Because she's kind of like running out of options.
I gave a girl a calligraphy setonce Really.
When I was moving away.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
I just gave him a good look at this and I pointed
my butt and I walked out.
Just kidding, I don't thinkI've ever really did a.
Here's a picture of my butt.
I've only like broke up withsomeone twice.
I've usually been broken upwith oh yeah every time and it's
just like uh, just it justdidn't go well and I felt bad
forever, you know.

(59:15):
But I like that.
The scene kind of starts offalmost as like a negotiation,
like Lloyd's like oh yeah, we'restill gonna hang out and stuff
and we're not actually breakingup because we already tried to
do this once and we just keptmaking out Um.
And then Tilly realizes whathappens, like yeah, but I don't
know.
Just like seeing them sit inthe pain of the decision is

(59:37):
great, and then, I love, he'slike oh, I feel like a dick.
You must think I'm a dick,diane.
No, I don't Lloyd.
You do, diane, I don't Lloyd.
We shared the most intimatething.
Two people can share Um andLloyd, you shared it with a dick
.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, she's like hell , yeah, high five, and it's just
like.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Yeah, it's like even though it's not his fault and
he's not a dick.
But like when you get broken upwith, you're like I'm a fucking
idiot, I'm a loser.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, he starts brooding immediately.
He broods so hard, oh, it's sogreat.
He's like ah, I do Great, letme.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
go in a phone booth and stand out in the rain, pull
the phone out in the rain, awayfrom the safety.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Break this phone.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
But he calls his sister and tells her about the
breakup.
Lloyd, she broke up with me.
What do I do?
Can she come back?
How can I get her back?
I can't.
I can't get her to talk with me.
It's so fucked up.
I feel like crying.
She gave me a pin, I gave hermy heart and she gave me a pin.

(01:00:42):
Great line and there's like abook of, like some of the
greatest quotes in movies.
This was number 73 in that book.
Oh, wow.
So Lloyd drives around talkingto the tape recorder for Corey's
friend.
He goes around to all the taperecorder for Corey's friend.
He goes around to all the spotsthat he spent time together.
It's like our controversialfirst day at the mall, this
place where I broke up with you,you broke up with me.

(01:01:03):
He says that he should hang outwith more guys like the people
that hang out behind aconvenience store.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
No, not these guys.
They know everything.
He should get out more yeah,right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So he goes to the guys and they all say dumb ass.
Shit, that little boy he's likebitches man, it's like just the
worst.
Um, one guy's like find a girlthat looks just like her and
nail her and then dump her.
Yeah, there's like a 10 yearold.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
It's like bitches man , he's got a time and like
leaves um, yeah, shut the dudeas soon as he walked up and saw
a little kid hanging out withthese 19 to 22-year-olds.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
he should be like that's a red flag, it's time to
go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
And they're drinking alcohol.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
And then he goes like he leaves and gets back in the
car and he turns on the taperecorder.
That was a mistake.
So he goes back to his car andhe's talking on his thing and
then he has this line the rainon my car is a baptism.
The new me, iceman Power, lloyd, my assault on the world begins

(01:02:05):
now.
Okay, it's like that pep talkyou got to give yourself to be
like.
You know what.
Emotions won't ever affect me,ever again, and it's like I
guarantee you they will.
Emotions won't ever affect me,ever again, and it's like I
guarantee you they will.
So he goes to Corey and hisfriends and they try to give him
advice.
He says he is a guy and haspride, so he won't go see her DC

(01:02:25):
.
Lloyd, why do you have to belike this, lloyd?
Because I'm a guy.
I have pride.
Corey, you're not a guy.
Lloyd, I am Corey.
No, the world is full of guys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I am Corey, no the world is full of guys.
Be a man, don't be a guy.
They are in love with him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Yeah, well, it's just like you know.
Honestly, I think in highschool your main friends should
be girls.
They're just going to help youman.
Yeah, that would be nice.
I was always like other thanlike my best friend and like a
couple other guys like I wasalways more comfortable being
friends with girls for somereason.
Yeah.
I get it Probably why peoplethought I was gay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
I didn't really have any girls that I was friends
with that closely.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I had a couple in high school.
They're cool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I was too stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I was just quiet.
I feel like people were likehey, it's the quiet guy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
He can hang out with us.
He must be intense.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Occasionally I'm funny when I have confidence.
So we learned that Lloyd'scalled her for seven or seven
unreturned calls.
Lloyd calls her one more time.
We watch as Diane and herfather listen to Lloyd's message
.
From Diane's reaction it'sclear that she still is very
much in love with him.
Her father tells her just topick up the phone, but she

(01:03:32):
replies that if she did shewould just get back together
with Lloyd and he's like well,you know best.
Eventually she can't resist andpicks up the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
But just as Lloyd hangs up and it's like ah, I
guess you never had one of thosemoments where you're just like
yeah, that's exactly whatNatalie said.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
It's like call him back Star 69, that shit, it's
the 80s.
You know how to do that and Iwas like wow you call 411 to
check the time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yeah you can't do star 69.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
IES phone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
I need the time man you ever have a movie phone I
used to call it just listen toall the trailers for movies.
I loved it.
Yeah, I remember doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
It's like I don't know why.
I did that because I never wentto the movies when I was a kid,
because I never had a ride.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I was in like biking distance oh nice.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
I probably should have just done that.
I mean, there was points whereI would like drive two hours
away on my bike, which was only,like you know, 30 minutes away.
Right, that's what that's about.
How far?

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Because it was in Lebanon and like that's about
how far it would have been,because it was in Lebanon and I
had to ride my bike through.
It was a long ride to get tothe movie theater and I had to
cross highways.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
My parents didn't know what the fuck I was doing
ever.
But I mean, that's somethingabout being in the 90s or 80s
where it's just like kids got onbikes and it's just like we're
going to go ride bikes.
It's like okay.
And then it's like okay andthen just like next thing you
know, it's me and my friendRichard going downhill.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
I got my hat turned backwards, so I can go as fast
as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
And it's this giant hill and you go so fast you got
to ramp it all to sticks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
It was a very curvy road, so it's like at any point
a car is coming around andhitting us.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
It's like did I?

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
not ever or die.
How did we make it?
I don't know.
And that's how you should letyour kids grow up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Let them grow up and remember how stupid they were as
kids.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
So Diane's father flirts up a girl while buying
Diane some luggage and he asksher out.
But all his cards start gettingcut and declined and he's
embarrassed and leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
He sits in his bathtub scared to death.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
And what is the most iconic scene from this movie?
Which?

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
kind of.
It's my first time seeing thismovie and I've heard of this
scene, yeah it's not as big asit is.
It's not as big.
It's not as big as you think itis.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
There's like barely it's like 30 seconds long.
When you rewatch it, thoughit's like every time, the more
you rewatch it.
The it's like every time, themore you rewatch it, the more
you're like.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
I get it, Lloyd.
There's not even a reason forhim to be out there doing it.
He's not like, he's just likeit's his last.
His last ditch effort, his lasttry.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
He's like all right, I called her a lot, which you
know it's not really pushing aboundary.
You're a teenager.
It's just what teenagers do?
They call people when they'reobsessed with them, right?
And then it's like all right,our sex song yeah, this is my
last chance because that's whyyou kind of don't hear from him
until she goes to him.
At the end he's like I dideverything I could think of.

(01:06:22):
It's time to get over it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Right, I did all the weird shit I thought of yeah,
but it's like she doesn't evenrespond to it and that's what
killed and that's what it'sweird.
The whole thing about the scenethat killed me was that she
kind of just rolled over in bed.
It was like fuck off.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Well, it's just like she wants to.
So bad to go out there, butshe's like she's being
responsible.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Right, she wants to be responsible Because of her
calling the police.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I think it's just one of those things where it's like
she's like this is so romantic,but I got too much shit going
on.
This is so romantic, but I gottoo much shit going on, and I
don't know.
It is like it kind of gets.
I think it's one of thosemoments where back in the day,
people were just constantlyrewatching it, and the more you
rewatch it, the kind of thesweeter and like better.
Yeah, I guess, especially onceyou see that they get back
together, it's like aw, he didthat To me.

(01:07:15):
Like the thing was him holdinga stereo up in the air for that
long, and I love that he isholding it up and then he's like
, damn it, it's not working.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Fingertips.
Hold it with your fingertipsHigher, just a little bit higher
.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Yeah, it is kind of a sweet gesture, sure, and it's
not.
I feel like it should be creepy, but I think it's because of
the way their breakup is.
It's kind of sweet more than itis, Because it's like I know
you don't want this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
We got a week left.
Come on.
We heard Bone so many times inthis song.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Yeah, but so Diane hears it but just lies in bed
thinking of all the issues shehas.
So by now the IRS investigationis heating up.
Diane goes to theinvestigation's office and
demands that Philip Baker Halltells her what is going on.
Philip Baker Hall is like inevery fucking movie ever.
You've probably seen him in abillion things.
He's great.
He's dead RIP.
You're one of the best thatguys that ever existed.

(01:08:05):
That guy, that guy, not fat guy, yeah, that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I thought he said fat guy.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I was like he's not.
So the man tells her that theybelieve that.
Mr Court, her father has beenstealing money from residents at
the senior home when they die.
He then hides the money in theform of a cash and collectibles
in the house.
Diana is shocked and does notbelieve it.
She goes home and startssearching the house for supposed
cash.
Meanwhile we're all like, ohyeah, there's a jukebox.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
There's a Persian rug .
Yeah, everything that that guywas just talking about, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
And there is a and Diane stops to notice the fancy
ring on her hand that her dadgave and it's like maybe this
wasn't mom's.
Eventually she goes around andit's like a five minute scene of
her opening some drawers.
It's the worst part of themovie.
It's like all right, come on,we can go through this a little
faster.
And then she looks into an oldantique box that her dad kept in
his office and discovers astash of thousands and thousands

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of dollar figures, and shetakes none.
I would not be able to do that,no you gotta take it.
It's for her.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
I.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
And I fill it up with paper at the bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I can't believe you didn't tell me about all this
money?

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Oh my gosh, I'm so upset.
We could have bought me twocars.
So she goes to confront her dad, who tries to deny it.
She's angry at that, while shealways told her father anything.
He always has to say anything.
He is unwilling to come clean.
He breaks down and admits thathe was taking their money, tries

(01:09:36):
to justify it by saying that itwas all done for the sake of
her and it's like Dad, we don'tneed this.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
No, you could have just been a father Seems like
she got a scholarship.
Yeah, she'd be alright, shedidn't need it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
But he just wanted it's like sweet and shitty at
the same time.
This is kind of what the movieis.
It's just about these peoplemaking decisions at moments of
their life, and he made thewrong one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
And if he's only taking from people who, if their
assets or the money or whatever, was just going to go to the
government and not to family, itwas like some of them were
going to families, but hisjustification was their families
.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
none of them come to visit these people.
They stuck them into aretirement home just so they
didn't have to deal with it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I feel like he's right about all of this.
That's the thing.
Even though it's illegal, it'sillegal, and it's like, oh fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
I mean they did put all these people in a retirement
home and probably visit themlike once a month.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
He treats them really well.
Yeah, they love them.
They watch Cocoon I.
I wish here in the US we wouldtake better care of our elderly.
I mean, that's kind of a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
They do have.
I mean, I feel like probably alot of retirement.
You know, there's always likethe bad stories about retirement
homes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
But I'm sure there's a lot of great retirement homes.
My grandmother was in a shittyone.
Really, oh God, it's like.
I feel like they're probablygetting better now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
As you know, the world kind of gets, but more
progressive slash, notprogressive oh man.
Yeah, I know it's like, and ifI plan on not having kids, I'm
going to end up there one dayprobably.
So, we'll see.
Maybe I'll just like find ayoung person.
It's like live with.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Delaware, just uh, you know there's a few states
now that have assisted suicide?
You know so.
Have assisted suicide, you know.
So it's always a way to do it.
What?

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
I want to do is go to the one in Sweden.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
Yeah, like sell, get rid of all my shit Hang out in
Sweden.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Take my money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah, Go to Sweden, Eat some chocolate, Live it up
and then get into that pod Likehook me up doc.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Yeah, I'd get to Sweden and be like oh, the
internet, here's something great, you know, let's just take me
out now.
There's no Wi-Fi, kill me, well, now that we got into assisted
suicide.
So yeah, he comes clean, hebreaks.
I already said all that.
While Lloyd is engaged in akickboxing training match at the
gym, diane comes by to ask forforgiveness and says she needs

(01:11:49):
him.
She tells him that she loveshim.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
He asks her to say it three times and then asked he
was hoping I kicked on the face.
Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
And then, like they fix his like, unbreak his nose,
and I'm like you need to go tothe hospital immediately, you
know your whole, entire face isabout to swell up.
Um, and then he asked if shejust needs someone or if she
needs him.
Um, he says it doesn't matterand they kiss anyways, because
there's no way he's coming outof that conversation not back
together with her.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Let's imagine her face being covered in blood,
because yeah, they kiss.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Yeah, quite a bit and I really like this because you
know they could have made it tobe this movie where it's just
like oh, you just want mebecause everything sucks now,
and it's just like but it's likeyou know she always wanted them
.
It's just like she felt toomuch responsibility to her
family and what she has to goand like what they're going
through.
And now that it's like well,the only person that I trusted,
uh, other than you, screwed me,so like I should have picked, I

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should have been with you thewhole time, and it's just like
he doesn't make a too big of adeal of it and it's great and I
don't know.
I just felt like there couldhave been a part where, uh
lloyd's just like no, you justwant me now because you have no
one, and it's like could havebeen five more minutes of it,
and it's like thank God, they'rejust like we're young and love.
Let's just fucking do this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Right yeah, I also thought that Lloyd in his mind
was saying was having thisargument with himself.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
But then he was like you got nothing else, lloyd.
It's like this is the bestthing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
You got it right out, I'm just going to keep getting
kicked in the face by people.
Plus, I'm going to go to London, let's go.
So meanwhile, we see twolawyers negotiate a deal this
court will be fined and serve ayear nine months of prison with
$125 fine $25,000.
$25,000.
I do love the scene of howquick it is.
They're just like how aboutthis?

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
How about this?
How about this?
How about this?
No, how about this, and it'slike all right, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
It's like, yeah, because lawyers got like 500
meetings probably every day.
It's like we have to hurry upand do this because I got like
four more of these today.
It's just his life, yeah.
And it seems like they go inwith like a certain like all
right, I want no more than like.
I'm sure Diane's father is likeI want no more than a year.
So ever, how, if you can keepit under a year, it's whatever

(01:13:55):
amount of money they ask for,type of thing probably.
And so when they he met under ayear, he's like OK, cool, but
you know he like lowballed himat first.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
He's like how about just a fine?

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
He's like all right, three months in a fine, and he's
like, it's like no, nine monthsand hundred twenty five
thousand, yeah, and then fiveseconds later he's in jail.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Yeah, with no due process.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
I know Well, because he was like I guess that was
just essentially the plea.
Yeah, they're working out aplea.
He's like I want to serveimmediately.
I want to hurry up and get itover with, yeah.
So next we see Lloyd meeting MrCourt in prison.
Mr Court, I love it.
Mr Court's in prison.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
He's already like a hardened criminal.
He's smoking, yeah.
Is this the only thing thatmakes you a hardened criminal?
Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
Diane is in the car while Lloyd hands over a letter.
It appears as if Diane is aboutto go to England.
Surprisingly, we also learnedthat Lloyd is going to go to
England with her.
Lloyd just know, oh, and so,yeah, I get.
This whole thing is like areyou all right, mr Court?
And he's like I'm incarcerated,everything I did was pointless,

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and like he hates that.
It's like that he's going to goto because it starts off where.
He's like she's going to Londonand I'm not going to go.
And I said I wouldn't go withher.
And he's like oh, that's good,and you're just a distraction.
And he's like, yeah, but then Idecided I am gonna go to

(01:15:20):
luncheon with her.
And he's like damn it, um, butthen, like you know, they kind
of have a confrontation.
And then he's like and I lovethis because jean-cusac's great
and that he feels really badabout the situation.
And you see that he wants hewants mr court, to feel better.
So he's like here, take thisletter, she wrote it.
And he's like was it to?
her dad yeah, and he's like justso, you know, there's like two
versions of it.
And it's like and he startsreading and lloyd knows what's
in the letter and he's he's like, oh yeah, I've read this part.

(01:15:42):
And then, mr court, he feelsbad.
And then he's like, all right,go to the end.
There's a version on it thatsays I will always love you.
Then he goes to the end andhe's like oh, she just signed
her name.
And then louis like, uh, he hasthis great line.
Just knowing that a versionlike that exists, knowing that
just for one minute she feltthat and wrote I can't help
loving you.

(01:16:02):
That has to be a good thing.
And it's like, dude, cameroncrowe, he's such a fucking good
writer man, um, and john mahoneyis so good at this part where
he's just screaming and it'slike never really seen a Mac
like that in anything and it'swonderful.
I don't know, it's a greatscene.
Uh, eventually Diane comes outof the car and does a final hug.

(01:16:23):
Uh, it finally hugs her father.
Goodbye.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
And says that I love her.
He hears her mouth breathingfrom across the yard.
She's here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Um, uh, she's here.
Before leaving, she tells himto write her and leaves the pen
she had previously giving Lloydin her father's hands, and then
a bunch of prison guards comeand beat him up and take the pen
.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Yeah, they do, or it's one of those pens with the
naked lady on it and you turn itupside down and get naked.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Oh, thank god, she left me this one.
Thank you, this is gonna makemy nine months go by way faster.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
I'll trade this for a pack of smokes.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
He probably gets out in.
What?
Two months for good behavior?
Yeah, probably, yeah.
So the film ends with Diane andLloyd on a plane together.
A previous scene in the filmindicated that Diane has never
flown and is very fearful of theexperience.
Lloyd tries to calm her down bytelling her that the most
accidents happen in the firstfive minutes of the flight, and
as soon as the fasten seatbeltsign goes off and a ding sounds,
though he tells her thateverything is okay the two are

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shown holding hands anxiouslyawaiting the ding.
At the point that we hear theding, the screen goes to black.
Credits roll.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
What do you think about the ending?
It was sweet.
I love that type of ending.
They're waiting for the smokingsign to come on so they can
break open their marbles.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Have you ever watched the Graduate?
I don't know, with DustinHoffman?
It's where.
Mrs Robinson, are you trying toseduce me?
That movie?
I guess not.
Well, it ends with him going tothis girl's wedding Spoilers
Fuck If you haven't seen it.
That sucks, it's fine.
And spoilers fuck if youhaven't seen it.

(01:17:56):
That sucks.
Um, and he goes and breaks upthis wedding and the bride runs
out with them and they get on abus and they just sit on the bus
but the director is like justkept holding it, didn't call cut
.
He's like just keep actinguntil I say cut.
So he lets them sit there for along time in the scene
uncomfortable silence, yeah, andthen like they're all smiling
and then they all fuck.
What did we just like?
They look like.
They're like, did we just fuckup?
And what I love about thismovie is at the end of it.

(01:18:19):
It's kind of that where it'slike is it gonna work out?
It was just a major mistake byboth of them.
And then the ding happens likeforever they will be together
and it's, I don't know until shemeets all those english boys.
Yeah, it's just I don't know.
I think it's all those Englishboys.
Yeah, it's just I don't know.
I think it's kind of abrilliant ending.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Oh man Say Anything.
Part Two he's kickboxingEnglishmen.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
And he has a British accent.
Oi, bruv, just kicking anyonewho talks to her and like as
soon as like in, like the wholemovie.
It's just like London calling,because you know that's how
anytime, anytime someone fliesto london and they get off a
plane, it's always that song.
So that's say anything.

(01:19:04):
Jason, what the fuck is thepoint of say anything?

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
uh, that it's.
It's nice to that.
I think having a person in yourlife that you can talk to is
one of the most important thingsyou can have in life.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
That's exactly what I think the point is too.
But it's to find someone thatyou can say anything to.
It's the most important thingyou can find is someone that you
can trust and be safe around,which is what Lloyd ended up
being.
Who makes you the?

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
best you, he's her new dad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
It's just I guess it's kind of the point I guess
of like every rom-com, butespecially the two we just did,
it's about finding someone thatmakes you feel safe and
comfortable.
Until you find someone betterYou're able to be yourself
around.
Yeah, it is one of those thingswhere it's like I don't know,
they're both fucking like 18 or19, so you know they'll probably
break up eventually, prettysoon.
But I don't know, they justfeel so perfect together and I
don't think they'll ever breakup, jason, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:19:58):
We'll go with that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Okay, Well, I like romantic comedies.
What can I say?

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Yeah, no they're fun All right, so we're going to hit
up our next category.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
So we discussed the good of the film, something we
like.
The bad, something we didn'tlike.
The ugly, something that didn'tage well.
The fine, something that didage well.
For the good, I put the partyscene.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
It's fun, it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
The chemistry between Lloyd and Diane.
It just makes me go aww.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Yeah, I thought the good was all of the two main
characters, their supportsystems were really fun.
Like her dad was great, likealso lloyd's friends.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
yeah, it's like always had his back, no matter
what, yeah, and they're all like.
There's the point where they'relike they're kind of talking
about after they have theirfirst date and it's like cory
and dc there's and like anotherfriend.
They're like do you like Diane,would really like Lloyd, and
it's kind of silent.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
They look at each other like yeah, and it's like
aw.
Never had friends like that.
What a bunch of good friends.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
So what do you got for the bad?
This was a tough one for me,except all other boys in the
high school.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think a part of it is just the idea
that they're teenagers and theydon't know shit about shit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Yeah, it's like watching it as an adult, it's
like yeah, it sucks to see youguys are making a lot of
decisions right now but, likesometimes it's forced on you as
a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Yeah, it is, it's just the way it is you just?

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
got to take the good stuff as they're happening and
run with it until it's not goodanymore.
I guess right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
So it's bad, but it kind of sucks that it's bad
because it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
I really didn't have anythingfor the bad.
I just had that like I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
Movies are kind of better than life sometimes.
That's the whole point.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
My high school experiences were other than just
like hanging out with my bestfriend at the time and doing a
few things.
It was just like man.
Everybody seemed like they inmovies.
They had a really good time athigh school and I never did.
I never did really, it was justlike can't wait to get off, go
home, eat some ramen and watch alot.
Wow, man, Did I have a sadchildhood?

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
No, I definitely did.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
I mean, I still do the same thing.
I can't wait to come home andwatch my sitcoms.
It decompresses me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
What do you got for the?

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Didn't age well.
I mean, I'm really sad thatkickboxing never took off like
you said it would.
Mma, bro it all took off.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
He said it would MMA, bro.
It all took off, baby, it'swhat everybody does now.
They kick each other, that istrue, like Lloyd would be at UFC
next to Joe Rogan, just beinglike whoa, every time someone
gets in one hit in a KO.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
You know that gif that goes around, where they
just flip out.
No, he'd be the one talkingabout how they like maybe
they'll fall in love.
Yeah, after the fight.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
Yeah, they'll kiss each other um, I put cameron
crowe's filmography.
Yeah, like after he hit like2000s.
It just like I mean, except webought a zoo because they bought
a zoo and I cried at the end.
So, um, the fine, I put theending and the relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Yeah, that feels realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
It feels like a realistic type of young people
in love movie, while life ishappening in the background.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
That is.
Yeah, that is a good point.
I really like the movies thatshow like healthy relationships
with parents.
Yeah, it's kind of nice to see.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
It's like you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
I never knew what that was all about?

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Yeah, and you know that's true Because, like I had
two really great parents, likethey grew up, they love me and
everything.
But it's like you know, as Igot older I was like man, they

(01:23:56):
were going through gosh.
Dad had to like not have a jobbecause of disability for so
long it's like it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
When I think about it now, I'm like fuck man, I was
such a brat sometimes too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
It's like I just remember the one time where it
was around christmas and Iremember or is my brother's
birthday one of them, so my momwas buying him a playstation one
game tony hawk, pro skater,fuck yeah, hell yeah, banger and
I was throwing a temper tantrumbecause I wanted a wrestling
action figure as a DDP.
One Still have it at my house,at my childhood home, and I just
remember crying she's like fine, we'll get this and we'll get

(01:24:22):
your brother anything.
Damn.
She got both Nice, but that was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
I remember that being sad about a decision I made and
then I was like oh, and I thinka lot of things changed that
day.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
I specifically remember that all the time, I
think about it way too much andI'm like, oh, this is why I'm a
people pleaser.
Now, what were you talkingabout, ddp?

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Realistic relationships, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yes, this whole movie is filled with it.
It's great.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
There are a lot of really good relationships with
him and his nephew.
That was really fun.
Yeah, always doing thewrestling shit with him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Yeah, then whenever he gets the day, he uses him as
a guitar and he's like attackthe bag, kill the bag.
We are powered.
So good, all right, so we'regoing to hit our next category
Double feature power.
It's so good, all right, sowe're gonna hit our next
category double feature.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
It's where we recommend a movie that goes
alongside this movie.
What do you got?
Uh, don't know if I'verecommended it before, but
besieged fortress with anarrated by john cusack, I love
it, that's great.
Uh, a termite colony and an antcolony.
They're too close together.
So the ants try to invade thetermite colony.
And an ant colony, they're tooclose together.
So the ants try to invade thetermite colony, and it's like

(01:25:38):
step by step.
John Cusack, for some reason,yeah, and it's so wild that he's
doing this.
I just love it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
You know that makes sense that he's narrating,
because he does have kind of oneof those voices where it's like
I'm off putting about itsometimes.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
It's just it's such a laid back kind of chill voice.
It's like you trust it a littlebit you hear him talking about
ants murdering each other likemurdering termites, and it's
like I love this.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Yeah, I love this.
I actually I really do want tocheck that out.
That sounds super interesting.
I've got it on DVD somewhere,somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Let me borrow it.
I think it's also streaming onsomething.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
I'll have to check that out.
So I chose a movie calledReality Bites.
It was like a 1992 or 4?
Is Bites spelled B-Y-T-E-S,b-i-t-e-s.
It's directed by Ben Stiller.
It's a movie about adocumentary filmmaker and her
fellow Gen X graduates face lifeafter college, looking for work
and love in Houston.
So it's essentially just like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
It's almost like a when was it made?
Uh, the 90s.
When did ben stiller startdirecting?
Uh, I think this was his firstmovie.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
That's what I was thinking.
Oh, I fucking hate imdb.
It's 1994, um.
So he already did like hisalmost snl run and stuff.
Did he direct something aboutmary too?
Yes, I believe.
So let me get all this shit off.
Previous, yeah, he's.
You know, he did like zoolanderum in 01 96, was the cable guy.

(01:27:04):
He had the ben stiller showfrom 92 to 95, so like he was
already kind of a name, and then94 he did reality bites so and
then he was on saturday nightlive or he directed a saturday
night live episode um in 87because his uh, father and
mother were like in the businessalready.
So you know he's kind of a ohuh one of those nepo babies

(01:27:27):
which is a stupid name we givepeople.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
I wish I was a nepo baby right, it's so much easier
no, but this movie is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
It's great.
You'd watch it and be like,fuck, I love the 90s.
Oh yeah, I love it's like, eventhough I'm not gen x, I was
like man, they went through someshit too, you know yeah with
the name reality bites, thoughit sounds like a virtual reality
.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Yeah, lawnmower man kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
Um also if you haven't seen Singles, which is
Cameron Crowe's next movie afterthis please?

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Oh no, I saw Shingles .
That was a terrible one.
Yeah, it's not as a romanticmovie.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
But, yes, watch Singles.
It's so good.
It's got a lot of Matt Dylansin it Catherine Sedgwick,
whatever her name is, and it'sjust kind of like Say Anything.
Cameron Crowe is just reallygood at quotable lines.
There's this one part whereit's the two main like the love
story.
They're walking around and likewhat's your name?

(01:28:24):
I just want to make sure I'mgetting her name right.
Kira Sedgwick is like eating ahot dog and they're walking Sexy
.
He's kind of like talking.
He's like I want to marry you.
And then she's like oh, you'regoing to make me remember this
shitty hot dog forever.
And it's like it's it takesplace in Seattle in the nineties
.
So, like you, um, like you havePearl Gents in the movie, yeah,

(01:28:46):
like they're Matt Dillon'sfriends, nice.
And you have, uh, alice inChains in the movie and stuff.
It's great.
Sounds like Wayne's World.
Yeah, it's just.
And so just imagine, sayAnything, but a little more
adult, okay.
I guess, Even though I feellike Say Anything is adult
anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Yeah, they're probably adults.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Yeah, but yeah, check out those movies.
So we're going to go way backto 1958.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
We're going to do what is considered one of the
best movies ever made.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
Oh, vertigo, I can't wait to be so angry about this
movie I'm gonna love it andjason's gonna be like meh,
here's why you're gonna love it.
Well, other than that, it's um,uh, alfred hitchcock film,
which you know he he's.
He makes some great movies, he'sone of of our birds, I think,
yeah, birds.
You're going to be like, wow,this movie is probably could

(01:29:37):
have trimmed like 10 minutes offof it.
But that's all old moviesessentially.
But you're going to watch JamesStewart.
Here's the thing.
James Stewart has one of thebest voices in cinema history.
No shit, yeah, because he'slike oh, I can't do it, I'll
have to hear it, don't worry,you'll get my Jimmy Stewart
accent in the next episode.
It's going to be great, is itJimmy Stewart?

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
James Stewart.
Is it the same person?

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Yeah, people call him Jimmy Stewart sometimes.
There probably is an actualJimmy Stewart.
I thought there was a comediannamed Jimmy Stewart there
probably is, I don't know, butJames Stewart, he rules, he's
great, he's got a hilariousvoice, I don't know.
There's something about the oldHitchcock movies that like they
feel like prim and proper butthere's always like some shitty
stuff going on in the backgroundand that's something that I
really like about.

(01:30:21):
You know all about forHitchcock's movies.
It's like about thesewell-to-do people.
And it's like oh yeah, but youknow human nature is going to
get in the way.
So is it kind of like VerticalLimit?
No, oh no, james Stewart hasvertigo and he chases a girl up
some stairs.
Man, have you ever seen?

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
someone with vertigo fall it is terrifying, is it?
Because they throw their fullbody into it.
Get ready, bro, because thathappens in this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
It's so fucking scary .
But no, this movie is a lot offun, or you might find it boring
, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
It's an old movie.
I love watching people falldown.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Yeah, especially with like silly noises, and the
older they are the better.
So join us next week forVertigo.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
I think it has more to do with like what they're
slipping on, like ice or howmuch flailing, they do.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
Dude, don't worry I always send my wife Instagram
reels of people following.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Or it doesn't have to be humans, like the one with
the emus growing down the icyroad and they're all falling all
over themselves.
I don't think I've seen thatone, holy shit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
There's nothing better than ring camera.
Video cameras.
Ring cameras of people takingsteps down and it's like next
thing you know, they're all onthe ground.
It's like how did this happen?
This is what ring covers weremade for, or when someone falls
for two minutes and it's likehow are you still falling, have
you?
Seen that video of the guy thatslips on ice, and then he's
trying to catch himself and he'slike he's like slipping for 30

(01:31:47):
minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
It's so good, I love it so much, so that's what this
movie is about.
That's what this movie's about.
Yeah, great, I can't wait, allright.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
Let's fall to the end of the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
No wonder it's the best movie ever.
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
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