Sicario

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast where every weekwe recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason, I'mDakota.
What's our objective?
To dramatically overreact,because this week we recommend
Sicario.
So five-star movie.

(00:29):
Yes, that was really good.
Five out of five, right.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Everybody.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Four out of five.
Okay, I'm going to go fuck you.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
It's one of those movies that we were talking
about with no Country.
It's like where's the fault?
What's the problem here?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Yeah, I mean, other than the fact that it's probably
all completely, uh, not how anyof this probably works oh no,
definitely not, they're tooorganized.
It's so good at making youthink it is.
This is how it works and it'slike I believe it.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I don't care, I just believe it yeah, I mean, I could
totally believe that they woulddo something, that our
government would do somethinglike this.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's like we want to choose who the bad guy is in
control, because, yeah, andthat's what I love about this,
because it's like whose side amI on?

Speaker 1 (01:08):
oh wait, nobody's side.
But it's like at the same timeyou're like, well, yeah, if we
can't stop it, let's havesomeone we can control.
So I kind of am on the side of,like the government, but lesser
of twoils.
But then they're showing you,after they do, scenes like the
shootout at the border.

(01:28):
It kind of just pans up to theMexican people looking at it.
That was terrifying.
Or then giving you theperspective of the cop's family
that ends up dying and it's likeI'm on nobody's side.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I don't like any of this.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Let's just get rid of drugs.
The I'm on nobody's side.
I don't like any of this.
Let's just get rid of drugs.
The thing should be to try andwin versus.
It's easier to try and puppetsomeone because it's more power
you can have.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
What is?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
it.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
It's great power comes great responsibility.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
No, spider-man's a drug dealer.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
It always comes back around.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
God he'd be so good at that.
Oh, he'd be so good on drugs, Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
I just love like the just kind of movies all gray,
right, just like nothing's blackand white, it's all just gray,
there's just nothing we can doabout it.
And as bad as it makes me feel,I love it in a movie.
So I just think this is justanother movie where every actor
is perfect in the director, thecinematography, denny villeneuve

(02:32):
.
Um, roger deakins does thecinematography probably the oh
well, best guy we got to docinematography.
Um, but like I just love blunt.
She's such a great nervous,suspicious actor, she plays that
really well.
Oppenheimer she was kind oflike that, um, edge of tomorrow,
even though she's like superconfident.
She's such a great nervous,suspicious actor, she plays that
really well.
Oppenheimer she was kind oflike that oh shit, edge of
Tomorrow, even though she'ssuper confident.
She's like what the fuck isgoing on with Tom Cruise here?
Daniel Kaluuya, our bestlow-energy actor, but he's such

(02:57):
a regular dude in every moviethat you're just like you're
down, you're down to clown withhim.
Is that the guy from nope, yeah,no, get out really good.
Um, yeah, judah and the blackmessiah.
He's so good in that movie.
That's where he won his oscar.
Then you got benicio del toro,who's always mysterious and kind
of weird, like he always makeswild choices but like they kind
of like reigned him in on this.

(03:17):
No stutter this time, yeah, buthe usually has like a weird
like tick in all his movies andlike I remember reading like
directors and I think it even Ithink ryan johnson said
something about, uh, him in lastjedi, where he like showed up
and started doing the stutterthing and he's like, he's like,
yeah, I didn't tell him to dothat, he just did it, but he's

(03:39):
good so I mean, just let ithappen um, and then you got Josh
, josh Brolin charming as fuckdude like no

Speaker 3 (03:48):
matter if he's a good guy, bad guy.
I'm like, I'm in you can tellhe's kind of like I don't know.
I'm gonna say like sleazy, butthere's something about him.
But he's just like still justkind of listening to you.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Mr Smooth Talker his damn hair, god flip flops.
I hope when I'm that old I canhave amazing hair like that.
Yeah, I know every other day.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
My oldest daughter is like you're going bald, I go.
No, yeah, go to school go toschool.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Make every American American man happy.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Look up the cure for baldness we're just like go to
school, get sick, come back,bring it to me and I'll get sick
.
Yeah, brolin, I almost want tosay he's kind of the best actor
in this movie.
Just from the whole movie.
He's so smiley, charming,chipper, and then whenever, like

(04:41):
they finally terrifying yeah.
But then, like whenever, likethey figure out, oh shit, we're
just here because you need us,so you can perform this
operation the facade goes offhis face and from that point
he's like oh, by the way, I'm incharge.
Yeah, if you didn't know, I'min charge of this.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
I just maybe like feels like something was always
off, I could feel it.
I'm blunt, like blunt suspicionis like I'm with you, girl, I
could feel it.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
It was as soon as he asked her if she was married or
had kids.
I was like what?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Oh, in my head I saw that more as like you don't, you
don't have any liabilities, solike the cartel and stuff can't
use them against you.
So die.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, he's like you're probably gonna die.
Yeah, yeah, um, uh, we got totalk about john bernthal, right,
oh my god.
So from this point, for me,john bernthal is he comes into
your movie or tv show.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
It's like god, dang it, dude, we're in trouble he's
gonna cause some chaos in someway, and he does and he's so
good at it, but he's so.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
He's got a trustworthy face that you can't
trust.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm going to save it for when the scene comes up.
I don't want to talk about thatso much.
Yeah, because the way justcertain ways it made me feel.
Even through most of it, itmade me realize like, after
seeing that scene and thenremembering the scene from the
bear, I'm like he needs like aleading role.
Stop making him the punisher.

(06:08):
Give him something good he'soverly handsome.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, yes, you can't trust, overly handsome it's like
hey man you're so handsome,probably when you're younger who
beat you up?
And how are you still handsomeafter getting beat up?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
and then I sit here and think I was like man, you
know, after he did die inWalking Dead spoilers, I know
but you should know by thispoint.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, I know, it was the first season, rick.
Well, in the first season.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I thought it was like two two seasons.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
I feel like Walking Dead went down after that no, it
went down like season two.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
That's when he died.
They did nothing in season 2.
Well, it's because that's whenstupid ass farm they lost a
producer like a big producerthey lost a big budget and they
have to re-figure out what theyneeded to do.
The main guy, the guy thatdirected the Mist I'm blanking
on his name.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I thought Del Toro or something, no alright, I get
Guillermo Del Toro and BenicioDel Toro.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
It's alright, I did that this morning they don't
look nothing like, but it'salright yeah, I know.
Frank Darabont well, he was theguy for the comics, right?
Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Maybe I don't know um , what were we talking about?
Berth, berth, berthal yeah,he's like a character actor, so
I feel like you know that's kindof like what his mainstay is.
He like just shows up and justacts the hell out of the scene
he's in everything.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, you know who else is popping up in everything
John Cena.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
John Cena Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Well, when I see him, I'm just like, oh hey, look
he's gonna be look Just elbowdropping cartel members.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah.
So I want to know is this likeso this type of movie, like this
shit's in my bag, man, like Ilove this?
It's just like just likedesert-y type of like gritty,
very gritty, yeah, Policeprocedural type of thing.
It feels like a very likeadrenaline pumping, but it's
like done in a prestigious way,which makes it even better.

(08:05):
It's not over the top maybe likesomething like what was it?
One movie I love Hell or HighWater.
It's a very prestigious likefeel to it, versus like because
it could should just be like adad movie, right, like, yeah,
let me watch these Americanskick some Mexicans' butts,
that's what I want to watch.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Stuff down there that border wall, and they'd be
stronger.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know, adding like the perspective like of the
Mexican people and those townslike really makes it kind of
feel like, make you feel morelike a Phil.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
It took me a minute, the first time when I watched
this Okay, we're watching thisfamily, what's going on?
And it took me a minute torealize, when, I think after he
got shot or something, or whenit came back to the kid later
and I was like, wait, whathappened to him?
Did we just see he just die offscreen?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I was like oh, I just I missed the connection there
because they're I mean like thescenes with him are so small and
slight, but it just kind of.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
They're like maybe 30 to a minute well, if you, um,
uh, I would recommend watchingnarcos when it has, uh, when
it's all about, um, you knowpedro pascal's, yeah, uh, and
they talk about medellin, that'sthe whole uh air, that's that
whole time.
Frame it when he's talkingabout how medellin was.

(09:19):
That was when, uh, pabloescobar was in charge and was a
different time it was a goodthat that was a good show on
Netflix.
After Pablo was killed Istopped kind of watching.
I just didn't care anymore.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
There was another show after season two.
I think people were just like.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I think it was three seasons before yeah.
And then after that I couldn't.
I just didn't really care.
Pedro Pascal was gone and Iliked the main.
I don't even know he was one ofthe bad guys in Logan.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh gotcha.
So like, is this like a type ofmovie I love, or is it just
like a movie I'll occasionallylike to watch?
It's very entertaining Well.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I just watched it, you know, for a couple yeah,
first time a couple months agoand I'm like hesitant to watch
the second one because I'm, likeI, donittier and not as
prestigious, but it's a.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
what is it?
It's from the big picture.
They like to call it like crime, crime, trash, trash, crime
films.
I guess it's more along thelines of that.
But people that like love thismovie ended up liking that movie
.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
So it's not going to like tear it down, it's just not
going to have that prestigiousfeel apparently.
Because it more focuses onBrolin and Del Toro.
Right, Because Emily Blunt'snot back.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I don't know if I think Brolin's back.
I meant to watch it.
I just didn't have enough timeto watch it.
I really didn't want to, though, screw you streaming services
when I watched it on what Wereyou able to watch it?

Speaker 2 (10:45):
on Amazon yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, it was on Amazon, Okay.
You lied to me.
Well, I thought it was, but Ididn't know I bought it for
nothing.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
I knew you wanted to buy it.
I know you did.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Don't pretend you gave me an excuse to look.
It's almost like that's a thing.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, damn dude a process for movies?
How?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
good is watching this movie and just seeing how it
all plays out.
Like everything from before.
They go to juarez, right, uh,getting on the plane, going
there, going.
They walk into the middle ofthe debriefing and it's so fun,
everybody's like yeah, we're abunch of boys the one girl and
there's like, okay, what the isthis?
And then like them going andjust, oh, dude, the car, ride to

(11:27):
go pick up Guillermo.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Oh man.
Well, it shows you howdifferent, like the people who
the boys crew that's with umBrolin Cause he knows how he's
that person, he knows how to geton their side of the typical
dad thing you would say.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
But then you got um, what's his name?
The other guy from nope, oh uh,daniel clue kalua reggie reggie
.
Okay, uh, reggie is like blunt,no nonsense, and it's like what
are you doing?

Speaker 1 (11:56):
like this is what we have to do yeah, they don't have
that boys club feel to them nobecause they're not.
They weren't like troops inafghanistan, which I guess gives
you I said you were in themilitary gives you that brother
that unspoken, or you don't evenhave to speak about it.
It's like we're in it together.
They're really close.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I kind of like their relationship, her and Blunt,
Reggie and Blunt.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah.
Yeah, I like their friendshiptoo.
It's just I like when we'restarting to get oh, blunt's name
is Kate a little bit more, whenmovies have the two like two
characters, a male and a female.
They could just be really goodfriends without them having to
fuck.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I like that.
We're getting that.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I watched the Nice Guy yesterday with Jackie Chan,
just to watch a Jackie Chanmovie, and he has this like
assistant and they're reallyclose and there's nothing going
on there, like there's a scenewhere he's like washing dishes
and he's like trying to scratchhis back.
She's like, oh, come here andshe lifts up his shirts or
scratches back and stuff for him, but his fiancee or girlfriend
like walks and she's like what'sgoing on?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
that's a movie I recommend.
By the way, that's what I'llalways have you do.
Yes, uh, yeah, I do.
That's a great observation,dakota, like whenever she comes
out of the shower and it's likegirl, you need a new bra.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, we got to get you laid, girl.
Yeah, that's a wingman rightthere.
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
The last person he's seen is you, because I'm like
this is a little weird, butthere's literally like nothing
between them and it's I like it.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, also I love that he's a lawyer, so he's like
way more like analytical abouteverything and like while people
are talking, it always likecuts to him, just like listening
, and then he's always kind ofas we're blunt throughout it
because she, I guess, didn'thave that lawyer background.
She was kind of more um, andshe obviously didn't speak
spanish.
It seemed like, uh, she waskind of more in the dark and
then when he got there which iswhy she wanted him there it's
like are you getting this?
And he's like I understandeverything completely.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Cause he and then when it's like second I said
eyes and she trusts him.
Yeah, it's that extraperspective on what he can have.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, cause she's around people that she from day
one was, from minute one.
She was like y'all grab me.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Why do you need me?
This isn't something I normallydo.
This is weird.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, so we'll hop into some facts.
I feel like we got a gooddialogue there.
So while Benicio Del Toro'scharacter is frequently silent
in the movie, he initially hadmore lines in the original
script.
The character explained hisbackground several times to Kate
Del Toro said, and that gave meinformation about who this guy
was.
But it felt a little stiff tohave someone you just met 15

(14:26):
minutes ago suddenly telling youwhat happened to him and who he
is Working with, directorDennis Villeneuve.
Del Toro began cutting some ofhis dialogue to preserving the
mystery of who his character is.
Villeneuve estimated they cut90% of what Del Toro was
originally intended to say byscreenwriter Taylor Sheridan of
Yellowstone intended to say byscreenwriter Taylor Sheridan of
Yellowstone.

(14:46):
Like del Toro, Villeneuve sawpower in stripping the character
down to a brooding silence,stating that dialogue belongs to
plays and movies are aboutmovement, character presence,
and Benicio had all that.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
That's awesome.
Good decision to remove that.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
It's what makes a good director from a bad
director.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, who takes the notes and said no, like I get to
see it and be like no, no, yeah, you got to do it my way.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, it's like just exposition, man, it's so
exhausting.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Like when you meet somebody at work and they give
you their whole life story inthe first five minutes.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Or like a retail worker.
Yeah, the amount of timespeople like, oh, how are you
doing I'm doing good, like, oh,how are you doing I'm doing good
, how are you father's gotcancer and my mom died like two
months ago and I'm sitting herejust scanning their arms, like
when I worked at home depot.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
there's so many times where, like someone would ask
for help and then in the middleof it I'm like they didn't need
help, they needed a conversation, yeah, yeah.
And you're just getting likecalls like on the intercom
saying that they need somebody,and it's like they're
specifically calling me.
But how do I get out of this?
Because I have to go above andbeyond for this one customer and
then I'm going to be like wherewere you?

(15:52):
And be like I don't know man,this guy would leave me alone,
but if you need to know abouthis life, I'll let you know.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
The best way to do that that I've learned is my
resting my RBF face.
Just walk around.
Most people just don't want totalk to me.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
I often got told at Home Depot it's like, wow, you
know, you wear all yourexpressions on your face and I
was like, oh, I got to getbetter at not making a face.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, now you just at work.
I loved when I because I'veseen it when you're talking to
someone at work at one point andyou were just laughing and then
you turned around and your facewas just ah dude.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
I was like ah, there, it is all day, every day, dude,
everybody thinks I'm so nice,I'm such a little bitch.
Um, so, did you ever watch themovie Everest?
It's a Josh Brolin, jakeGyllenhaal, I believe they're
all in it.
They're going up Everest aboutthe people that died up there.
I don't think so.
Well, josh Brolin was in it andapparently he turned down this

(16:46):
film because he was so tired,because you know, that was a
pretty big, exhausting thingthey had to do there.
But Sir Roger Deakins, thecinematographer apparently he's
knighted sent him an emailimploring him to join the
project.
Since it was souncharacteristic of deacons to
take this stand, brolin changedhis mind.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
God bless you, deacons I still think about
brolin.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Just I wanted to be in a coen brothers movie, as
he's flying through the air ohyeah, I think whenever we, us
who did the no country thatnever made it to air.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
We talked about that a little bit.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
I just it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
So let's see.
Emily Blunt based Kate Masur'scharacter on one of four female
FBI agents she spoke to inpreparation for the role, whom
she described as shy and with aloner quality to him.
Yeah, man, how fun would it beto be an actor or an actress in

(17:48):
like an fbi movie.
You get to learn how, like youget to go train with them, which
has to be fun as hell.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
That's the one thing I always think about.
And then you do that stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And then it's like your time's like, oh shit, I
trained with the fbi, I know howto do this.
Let's go baby.
Because that's whenever I thinkabout the beginning of this
movie, I immediately I'm like,oh, that's how to be so, let's
go baby.
Because that's whenever I thinkabout the beginning of this
movie, I immediately I'm like,oh, that's how to be so fun
tactical breaching every room inthe house get to play that so
fun the training they do forlike John Wick.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Oh my god, I would love to just go do speed like,
because it's a skill you'relearning and all like the
martial arts he learned too andhe got to like a certain degree
of belt.
He just got that from doingwork.
It's like that'd be so fun todo.
Just to get speed shooting goodaim, quick reloads and then all
the martial arts he learns aswell.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's a little bit fun .
Yeah, what if you think youever didn't shoot someone in the
head?
And they're like cut, cut.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I know I could do better God we gotta start, we
gotta get to those.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
We gotta get to those John Wick movies because I keep
thinking about them.
I watched John.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Wick 1 on a plane and it made the people next to me
very uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Why is it?
Because you're just like bangbang After it was over.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
You should take your headphones off.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
I think, I'm back.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I think I'm back For Tyler out there.
I think I'm quack.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Did I ever tell you?
Well, sorry, I feel like I gotto explain the joke.
So I said it'd be really funnyif John Wick was actually a duck
and then, instead of saying Ithink I'm back, it's like yeah,
I'm thinking I'm quack.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
And he just rolled his eyes every time.
He hated the joke.
It's still funny, though.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I hate how much he hates, how I'm funny.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I know that's what made it funnier.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
It's like you're just feeding it.
It's like I know you think I'mfunny.
Laugh God, dang it.
I just thought this was veryinteresting.
It's not much of a fact, butfor the sequences involving the
thermal and night vision gogglesthey were non-functional.
A Prost man heated the soles ofhis shoes so his footprints
would register more prominentlythroughout the length of the
shot I was watching that I waslike did he just walk across hot

(19:52):
coals?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, I was thinking.
I was like well, they are inthe desert.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Maybe they do have hot footprints.
Maybe I knew they made these.
They kind of showed me apicture of a rubber ducky as
John Wick, and it's amazing.
Tubs or tubes, whatever they'recalled, let's see.
Oh, here's another good one.
On the airplane flight, whenAlejandro is having a nightmare,
you can hear his wife anddaughter screaming inside the

(20:18):
sound of the engines.
Did y'all catch?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
that, yeah, second watch.
I was sitting here and I waslike I didn't notice that the
first time.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
So the screenplay contained a nightmare scene in
which Alejandro was tied to achair, with his wrist tied to
the arm, and he witnessed hisdaughter being put into the vat
of acid and his wife's headbeing cut off.
The movement of his handindicates his attempt to break
free the engine.
Noise and sound of the airflowtriggered this nightmare while
he sleep.
So, like, obviously, like apart of you almost wants to see
that scene, but like the wayit's done it would be too.

(20:49):
it'd be something I'd be like,yeah, we could have just cut
that.
Yeah, it's kind of it goes withhis character of what he said,
like writing it.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Thinking of what happened to make bacon.
And here's that sizzle he getstriggered, he smells it my
daughter just throws the hotbacon at the oh my god, like
when, when you cause he doesn'treveal it until later, right, or
is Brolin's character?
Someone reveals it, yeah and Iwas like ah, I uh kinda don't

(21:19):
feel bad at the end yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
That's why this movie is like such a gray area,
because when you get to that endlike you know, I've watched
this movie a bunch because Ilove it and it's like I know
that he's going to shoot thekids.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I didn't know that.
Oh yeah, I didn't know either.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
I'm glad he did though I mean they're probably
going to grow up, it's I mean heshouldn't have done it.
I hate that he shot the kids,but at the same time it's like
he's got his revenge but thenit's just like he did.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
I don't know how to feel about it.
I just like I didn't say it wasright, but I understand.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
You know what it is.
It's um and that scene wheneverhe's and she's like we're dead.
And she probably knew.
Yeah, and that's like.
That's when I'm like I hateeverything, nothing is good.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Everything is bad.
I thought she was going toreach for a weapon or something.
I love that that didn't happen.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
One thing I can I like about Telltale World's
character character is that he'son a mission, but there's none
of that.
Like you can't do this becauseit's wrong.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
He's like no, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
He's a person on that mission and he will do it and
he doesn't have any like regretsLike you could see on his face.
It's like I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
He's got nothing left to live for.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean, we thought we were watching a drug movie.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
We're actually watching a revenge flick or
watching a family film.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Yeah.
So when the team entered thetunnel, Emily Blunt hits her
head on top of the tunnel.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
I don't know if you remember that.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, I saw that Villeneuve said in an interview
that he left that take inbecause it added more realness
to the mission in the filmitself.
For the fight scene, JonBernthal assured Emily Blunt
that he was an experienced boxerand she could hit him at full
strength.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Well, that explains his face.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Let's see there's some more.
In the original screenplay,Alejandro was only going to
murder Alcaron.
Alcaron, alcaron in front of hiswife.
It was later changed to himkilling the entire family at the
dinner table.
I'm just going to do some ofthese like quick fire, because I
really like a lot of these.
In the final raid scene, whenBenicio del Toro's character is

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invading Fausto's mansion alone,he throws caution to the wind
after he sees Fausto's familyeating across the lawn.
If you notice this is becausehis radio control with aerial
support tells him that sixremain.
After shooting, the hen's beenin the hallway.
Seeing the family of four inthe single house made he
realizes the coast is clear andthat's why he just walks right
up okay, I was wondering he'snot being really sneaky, but

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there's got to be less peopleyeah, that's the only thing I
could make the assumption withoh man, just one last thing real
quick.
Emily Blunt and Ben Bothappeared in the Wolfman, that
really bad movie At the end ofthis film he tells her to move
to a new town because this isnow a land of wolves.
She would not survive there.
You remember the movie A funcross?

Speaker 3 (24:14):
That is.
I just watched that movie notlong ago.
I didn't finish it, but Iremember watching it.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Oh, and also, I guess , because Blunt and Del Toro
were in that movie together.
They became like brother andsister, I guess, and friends on
it.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
There was originally supposed to be a nude scene in
this movie with blunt um, butthey're like we don't want to do
it.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Yeah, I guess it was probably gonna be the burnthal
like whole choking her outwhether top off or something,
and they, oh no, yeah yeah,that's my fantasy baby.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Well, I know how jason feels, how are you about
like?
Because a lot of peoplecomplain's like, what's the
point of like all the nudity inmovies these days?
And they're trying to as longas it's not exploitative.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I mean I just I was, we're in America, so everybody's
scared of sex.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, it's not that, it's just like I don't think
it's unnecessary.
What do you mean Like with sexscenes are just like when like
younger generations don't reallylike sex and movies well, I'm
fine with it, because it's justlike when you're, when you're
sitting there watching it andlike I'm watching with my
girlfriend, it's just kind oflike this is awkward, like one
thing I can't, like I was.
I don't know if I realized howI made the connection, for it

(25:16):
was when I've been listening myaudiobooks and they're getting
like oh, we were, you know, makeit out and start getting a
little more explicit explicitlike turn it up, roll.
Well, it's very awkward when youwere at the cheese factory,
then you're sitting here like oh, that's when I just like unplug
and let everybody listen well,it's funny because most of the
time it's man reading yeah, sothen they're doing the woman

(25:39):
part too.
I love it.
There was like some stuffthat's happened at Pet Cemetery.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
He's like.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
I don't need this much description yeah, um, um.
My main take on this iseverybody should be kissing and
having sex, so I'm down for itand whatever he's got, horns up
too, cause he's like America.
I mean, it's a.
I heard an eagle in thedistance.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
I do.
I do get that Sometimes sexscenes can be like alright, what
was the point of the sex scene?

Speaker 3 (26:04):
I don't ever think they really add anything.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
It just depends on the movie it depends on the
movie.
Sometimes, yeah, it's usually.
I mean, I don't know, I thinkit can be off screen.
It just depends how well it'sinterweaved into the movie.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
It's like when you're watching a movie and the
director's, like everybodyreally wants to see your boobs
and Watching a movie.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
and the director's, like everybody really wants to
see your boobs, and that's theonly reason.
That's how it used to be.
Producer walks in, take a tapoff.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Pulls a stogie out of his mouth Only tits were right
around her face.
I talked to you about thatmovie.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
But yeah, I think if it's done well, I mean, then
yeah, put it in the movie.
But if you can't find a way tomake it meaningful in the movie,
then there's no reason.
I think it's more of just like.
I mean it's great in, like youknow, romantic movies.
Yeah, put it in there.
It's the point of those movies.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
I think it's more of like just in a scene like when I
was watching Nice Guy.
Normally in an R-rated film areporter A reporter gets home.
She's like I got the evidenceand she's turning the shower on
and normally she would just getnaked.
You see her, and then the nextthing bad guys show up and she's
like half naked.
Then I'm like that's kind ofuseless.
Like there was like later whenshe shows looks at her evidence

(27:15):
that she has.
It's not the right one.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Bad guys show up, and she's in her, I guess yeah but
in situation I don't know amovie where nudity is but if
it's a dude you're just like youlaugh about it like a movie
where like nudity and sex islike important.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
It would be like the substance, like that was a whole
point is about like yeah, thatbodies and yeah, I think it's
because in that, that's what Iknew it was going to be about
and that's the theme of it isyour body and aging and stuff
For a movie like Sicario, yeah,it would not have made a
difference whether there was asex scene or a nudity scene in

(27:55):
this.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
They could have used it to make you hate somebody a
lot more, you know.
Yeah, just do something awfulwith a nude person Like how they
hung the bodies up from thebridge.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
That makes sense.
That I see, because it's likeit's a, it's humiliation yeah, I
could not think of that wordTurned into Jesse, hey, so far,
I'm doing good.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
I just messed up one name which I tried to I'm sorry
everyone.
Like Fausto, I'm just.
I promise I practice and Ipractice, but hopped up on
coffee and I get nervous whendoing this, no matter what, and
you know this is just who I am.
I don't know how to say thanks.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
I just want to call out I'm so happy you're using
your little movie chair.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I got you like how long ago I was going to use the
beach one when I'm up in the airand not like down floor level
and y'all are looking down at me, which makes me it's a power
play for us.
Yeah, I did that for you guys,so you guys felt powerful and,
you know, confident, dominant,yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Now let's follow up while I'm sitting over here in
the corner, like it's okay, I'mfine.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well, anything before we get into the plot, I can't
wait to talk about this firstscene.
The whole movie reminded me ofliving in El Paso hell yeah, you
said something like you were inJuarez or you dropped your mom
off at Juarez so Fort Bliss isbasically right across the river

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.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
El Paso is right across the river from Juarez and
you see it almost every day.
It looks dangerous.
It just looks because it's aborder town.
All border towns are prettydangerous.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
There was actually one thing I did read, I guess,
like I don't know, I don't knowWhoever was like in charge of
Juarez, like at the time of thisfilming.
There was like the they saidlike a little fact of this
filming.
There was like the they saidlike a little fact that, like so
many people die like a week ora day or a month or whatever in
Juarez and the guy tried toboycott the film Cause he's like
it's not like that.

(29:54):
Now it's since.
I guess it was like that.
It hasn't been like that sincelike 2010.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Well, many like after Escobar and stuff, so many like
after Escobar and stuff it tooka.
They just now kind of stillhave like they rebuilt the city
some and had made it try to makeit a tourist place for people
want to come.
They still like cannot get over, like that was Escobar's thing
and they still can get past thatimage Like it, it's hard to
break.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
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Speaker 2 (30:33):
So we want to drop my mom off at the border there
because she lives in mexico.
She came to visit us in el paso.
I was really scared for herbecause I dropped her off at the
wrong border crossing and theywere just like walking through
the city and got picked up bysome cartel members and they
just were nice and gave them aride.
I was like wow, she said yeah,it was like a convoy of three

(30:56):
big black SUVs picked us up andgave us a ride.
I'm like holy shit, mom it'slike why?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
why did they just do that?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
they're probably like what the fuck are you doing in
our town?
They just like can't.
It's always funny cause anytimewith you, jason.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
I feel like we always get a little tidbit and it's
like what?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
you did that.
It's like always these littleextra information, anytime we
talk, anytime we bring up Mexicoin a movie, like Jason always
just like says something I'mlike Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
It's not even Mexico, there's other things.
But I noticed that with thepeople who I work with, who were
in the military, you kind ofget traveled and have some
experiences.
Everyone at work has a chunk ofthem from the military, so
they've had the travel.
One guy was like oh, I lived inGermany.
He's like I love the Autobahn,the road, and he's just like man
to me.
It's crazy and I'm sitting herelike I haven't done anything.

(31:42):
Other people used to be like.
I got one co-worker who had aband he was signed with
Interscope Records at one point,which was Limp Bizkit that's
cool.
And then another guy who workedat the CMAs on there.
Yeah, All of them had donemusic Wow.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
That's crazy.
I have not traveled, just jointhe military.
I'm sure everything will befine.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Yeah, my knees will definitely survive.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
They'd be like get out of our recruitment center.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Who's making Rice Krispies?
And it's just me doing somestretches.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
They're like okay, run through these tires.
You're like your legs are justflopping everywhere, popping in
and out of sockets Like oh hebroke his legs Like nah, it just
does that it twists around.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Could I have an that?
Oh yeah, that's right, weworked together.
I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's like he can essentially make his legs do the
opposite of what they'resupposed to do.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
That's not what they're supposed to do man, I
know.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
That's what the doctors told me too.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
The doctor says we need to run testing.
You're a different type of man.
Well, shit, um, I guess.
One more thing about this movieuh, it's really made me like
want to look up what's happeningat the border right.
I was just like oh shit, maybelike even though I know this
movie's not realistictechnically, but it just made me

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like super interested, be likeoh, maybe we should figure out
what's going on down there justbecause you know, if there is
like drugs are getting thiscrazy and it's like this much of
now, I guess because we're inTennessee.
You know we're not like in Texas, so it's not like guys.
We got to figure this out.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Well, let me tell you this, because I don't want to
get on, even though there iscartel intent.
The border crossing that, theysay, is like people walking over
.
All drugs come in throughplanes.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, that's actually that's going to have to be
something that.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
You mean they don't build cars out of weed anymore
and send two guys.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's not Cheech and Chong anymore.
Ooh, we got to do Cheech andChong soon I've actually been
wanting to do that.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
I'm telling you, you got to do it after doing the
Cheech and Chong.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
What it's a dance we made.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Oh yeah, I can't do a dance we made oh yeah, I can't.
I can't do a podcast like that.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yes, you can.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I can't put my headphones on because of hearing
my own voice while being likeJust make it a fun one.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
It should be kind of like your Halloween movies have
been.
Yeah, kind of like a livecommentary yeah, just have to
edit a lot, because there'd be alot of like tangents of
laughing.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Let us know.
Send us some fan mail and letus know if you want us to do
Cheech and Chong in a fun way.
Well, I think we did an allright job not saying in what
type of fun way we'd do it.
All right, should we?
Hop in Just another thing, justanother, just another thing,
just another great line we gotto cut from Jason.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
What makes me think of that?
A video with Al drugs, drugs,alright.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Y'all ready to hop into the film?
Hell yeah, damn, that was aclean transition.
You guys aren't gonna know whatwe just cut out, baby alright.
Sicario 2015, directed by DennyVilleneuve.
We learned that in Mexico,sicario means hit man, and it's
funny.
The first time I watched it Iwas like what does that have to

(34:49):
do with anything?
And it's like it's obviouslyright in our face.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
So we're in Chandler, arizona, fbi critical incident
response group agents KateMercer and Reggie Wayne played
by Emily Blunt and DanielKaluuya I believe I'm saying
that right lead a raid on asuspected mexican cartel safe
house where they discovereddozens of decaying corpses
embedded inside the walls of thehouse they were originally

(35:16):
looking for like kidnappedpeople yeah, how wild is it to
be looking for hostages and thenbust out a wall with your
vehicle.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
That was so surprise Guns blazing.
We don't do subtle we go inguns blazing.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
I feel like a good edit would have been them doing
that.
And then the one guy fromDexter surprise motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
I really like that before you see Blunt's
nervousness, like she's.
I don't know if she's done thisbefore her character, but even
if she has, this is stillsomething like.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
The point is that she's still technically she's
not a rookie, but she still is.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I mean doing a raid regardless is going to be.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Nerve wracking.
And plus it's Arizona and itlooks hot in the screen.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
It is hot.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Which is great cinematography With all it is
hot, great director greatcinematography with all those
bodies?
Little thing about all theirarmor, their black gear, because
I think I've been through.
Chandler, arizona, and itfucking sucks there.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
It's hot well, I do like the color correction in it,
because it like in this movie,because especially the beginning
, it's that it like the there'snot much color, but it's just
like you can, the way that itlooks.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
It just feels hot I would say they like turned it,
toned it down, because whenyou're there and like you, have
mainly dirt because anytime.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I would walk, be inside, you know, in a building
all day and then walk out, getthat kind of like ah, it's
bright outside, yeah, becauseit's fucking desert yeah, um,
but I love that when they comein and they see like all the
people they're looking forkidnap people and it's like
apparently these people on thewalls were different than the
kidnap people, just kind ofshowing how out of their depth
they are, they're like, oh damn,like we're so behind on

(36:57):
everything.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
I like that.
Well, blunt went and threw up,but you could see that as they
stunk, yeah, they stunk, it wasjust a smell thing.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
I don't think it's like something that and it's
funny is like I understandhiding in the walls.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
It's a spot.
But you're in there, you knowyou smell it.
You're not hiding that smellwhatsoever.
Yeah, you also have like 10acres of desert around you yeah,
you could have just buried them.
Or just stuck them outside.
That vultures would have got.
They would have turned intojerky within a day.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Well, I think it's because they don't.
They probably know people arewatching them.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
So burying them outside, they would have seen.
What else are they going toinsulate the house?

Speaker 1 (37:32):
with.
I bet it was warm.
I bet it kept it cool in there.
When they had the AC on, we gota little warm them in there.
It's like man insulation.
These days they're using weirdtactics People in Ziploc bags.
So outside we see peopleclearing out a shed and it turns
out it's a booby trap on a doorand the outhouse explodes and

(37:56):
kills two policemen God.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
I'm going to be so nervous.
I was just waiting foreverything to explode after this
.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
I didn't expect it and it was just like oh, they're
going to find something elsebigger than that Cause.
I thought it was leading up tooh you found the bodies or
something.
There's the hostages or we'regoing to find, like a, a route
to like where they're like.
Maybe they dug a tunnel.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah, or a bunch of drugs and then it just pops up,
he just pops up boom.
But I do love like there's adog in this scene, like right
before when they're finding thedoor and it's like sniffing, and
there's like after theexplosion.
They do purposely like show thedog in the background running.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh, that dog's like I'm the I retire, and then he
goes to like there was nocountry for a little man, texas.
And then he goes to likewhere's New Country Roadman,
texas?
Yeah, he went to go work withsome other people and then he
had to chase down Josh Brolinagain they kind of scented cloth
of Josh Brolin.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, find him.
So we'll eventually learn.
The house is owned by ManuelDiaz.
What I love about this you knowwe said that it looks hot but
something that I love in thisfilm is watching people come up
onto the place and like the SWAT, just like.
You know, you just have thefirst.

(39:14):
The shot first starts wherethere's like nobody in frame and
then you see like one SWAT guyand you're like OK, and then you
see two, and then it kind ofgets to the house and there's
like a bunch of SWAT guys andit's like holy shit, nobody has
any idea this is happening.
How scary has it has to be.
And back into the house withthe truck is great.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I mean, it's a good way to disorient you, and then
you also have a opening foreveryone.
You don't have like a chokepoint.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, also, I just put this in my notes about the
people in the body bags.
I just really want to say itwho are these people.
Shake a bag.
Just wanted to do a Seinfeld.
So after the raid we see Katetake a bath with blood running
down her head.
She has to breathe through thetrauma she just went through.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Oh, she also got a cut on her head, I guess, from
the glass exploding.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, and it's like shouldn't they like taking care
of that?

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, you could refuse medical attention and
stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
That's true, but she should be like.
She seems like someone thatwould do that.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I think in those type of situations I don't know how
it works for raid situationsbecause, like they always do a
psych eval afterwards, yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yeah, I guess it's not the same in the FBI.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Although it probably should be.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, and plus it would be boring to watch on
screen.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Well, it just made me think of those Blade Runner
scenes.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, to realign or whatever it is.
So, following the raid, kate'sboss recommends her for a
Department of Justice SpecialJoint Task Force, overseen by
Matt Graver, great name.
Department of Justice SpecialJoint Task Force overseen by
Matt Graver, great name, and thesecretive Alejandro Gillick, a

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Mexican ex-prosecutor turned CIAtrained assassin, who we will
meet later.
Kate's partner, reggie, isconsidered to be too novice and
not chosen for the task force.
We learned that Kate isdivorced and has no kids.
Matt asked her that wheneverthey tell her to come in the
room, which makes her a perfectcandidate.
Also, she only has, like Ithink, 18 months.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Right, they said yeah , she says she never worked like
she didn't she, only she was athumper yeah, she immediately.
She's like she did she work any?
What do you say like files?

Speaker 1 (41:17):
cases yeah, yeah like no.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
She immediately went into like hardcore, so she
skipped that.
Like I would say like becauseshe's just so good.
Yeah, is that what they'resaying?
Like she skipped.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Well she's great that's killing, that's what she
well, no, that's like like justwhat she loved to do is to find
the kidnappers being like theone that finds the kidnappers.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
I want to be.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
That's the fun part you don't be doing paperwork,
but for for matt, uh, joshbrolin's character.
That's important to him becauseyou know she's not like higher
up, because what we'll learn isthey're trying to have someone
they can manipulate the wholepoint.
Um, and that's also why they'relike hey, do you have any kids?
Other kids or husband and kids?

Speaker 2 (41:54):
yeah, it also made me feel really weird also, uh,
matt graver has flip-flops onyeah, which is funny.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
He seems like a real.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
It made me immediately think that he was
gonna start hitting on her allthe time.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
I think it's still like that whole facade to like
disarm.
You Like, who is this guy?
He's not like that serious.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
He's a spook.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
It makes you feel like you don't have to be on
edge with him.
You're like who?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
are you, and the objective of the task force is
to apprehend the Sonora cartellieutenant, manuel Diaz,
currently operating and hidingin the United States.
Assured, the task force willbring Diaz and those responsible
for the safe house incident tojustice.
Kate joins even though she hasno idea who most of the people
she'll be working with and whothey are working for.

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She doesn't even know ifthey're CIA.
What do they call them?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
They're just saying like he's advisors yeah what do
they call them?

Speaker 1 (42:47):
they're just saying, like he's advisors, yeah, and
it's like, um, uh, kate is toldthat the team will be heading to
el paso, where manuel's brother, guilmo, suspected to be hiding
.
Something I love is when, um,so there's a point where they're
essentially say a lie, likethey'll be heading to el paso or
whatever.
I love that her boss is visiblyreacting to the lies, like it
takes a shot of the boss whojust kind of like makes a face

(43:08):
and kind of looks down after hesays something.
It's like the boss knows thatshe's not going to know anything
and it's you know, it's justlike she knows that they're
lying to her essentially, andthe more you watch it, the more
you'll pick up on that stuff.
It's great.
And he says that she has tovolunteer to be a part of the
mission.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
He knows that this is going to be tough for her.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yeah, Love this little scene Also.
I just love Reggie and Katesitting outside Reggie's just
like because he's a lawyer.
He's like we did everything bythe book, right.
What the fuck is going on inthere?
Do you know anybody?

Speaker 2 (43:41):
you, just you look back and they're all just like
looking at you and like gigglinglet me look real quick.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Bust through the whole house with the truck we
did it.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
But like, somehow love, like she comes out of the
first when she goes.
She goes in there twice thefirst time she comes out.
It's like.
It's like what did what?
What?
What do they want?
She's like I have no idea.
I went in there, got almostzero information.
I don't know if I was single.
Yeah, I'm gonna date all ofthem, um, but yeah, I just love
that.
It just immediately is like wehave no idea what's what's

(44:13):
happening.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I love that the movie's confusing on purpose,
because you're trying to be inher perspective, like what's
going on what are they doing?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
and something that I saw like just kind of looking up
people's thoughts and stuff,people seem like super confused.
Like after watching the movieI'm like they literally tell you
everything yeah, it happenseverything's told to you by the
end of the movie.
Um, then we cut to a mexicanpolice officer sleeping and
being woken up by his son andeating breakfast that his wife
made.
He puts whiskey in his coffee.
Oh yeah, it, yeah.

(44:41):
It seems like something thatmakes no sense and is pointless
in the movie but ends up kind ofbeing the heart of the movie
almost.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
I think it's to show like he may be a cop, but like
he's literally about to like goout.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
It's showing you that like oh, the bad guys have kids
and families too, and it'simportant.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
People get into these situations just to get by.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Oh, these situations just to get by, because, oh yeah
, like there's so much poverty.
When you watch narcos you seelike there's like it's the whole
thing of, oh, just get out ofthere.
It's like sometimes you like toget out of there.
You, the only thing that'savailable is the that situation
that they're in.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
It's like I mean, otherwise they're gonna put your
head on a turtle.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, baby, we actually a couple weeks ago we
watched that episode Natalie'sgoing back and re-watching all
the Breaking Bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
I like the idea that there's a lot of tortoises out
there just walking around withheads on them.
Yeah, that's fun.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
All Danny Drake.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
We have to stop these turtles cutting people's heads
off and wearing them.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
People's heads off and wearing them.
Lloyd is looking aroundsomewhere, Petey that's who did
it.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
So Kate is kept under suspense about the details of
the mission.
As Matt, alejandro and Katetake a private plane to the army
base in El Paso, texas, mattimmediately goes to sleep.
Alejandro quietly gets onto theplane and doesn't say much, but
asks if she has ever been to awar, as before.
She thinks she's going to ElPaso.
She immediately has no ideawhat's going on.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, I'd be pissed too if I was already on the
plane.
In the air it's like wait,where are we going.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
When he falls asleep he has a bad dream and scares
Kate.
Just a little bit moresuspicion about who this guy is,
something I want to say greatoverhead shots of the land.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Oh yeah, scary.
All the ones from the dronestoo, are cool yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
But I love like this first one because the score in
this is amazing, by JohanJohansson, I believe, is his
name.
He did scores like Prisoner,some Danny Villeneuve movies,
great.
But because the music is soscary and there's like a part
where it's passing over somemountains and it almost kind of
looks like hell.
Like, just like, almost like,if you're like if you're like

(46:52):
looking at a painting of helland it's like just because some
of the mountains almost had,like they didn't look like faces
but like almost like demon typelooks.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Your brain puts that pattern together.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
You always look for faces.
That's what we do.
It's the only thing, what we doand we're I'm gonna listen to
it.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, I found Johnny Knoxville's face at work the
other day in a paint.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, jesse doesn't believe me though well, like
Carol said that it looked morelike a beavis or butt head in
one of them.
I don't really see that much.
Well, in our shower there'sthis one like tile and it looks
like there's like almost like adeer head type in it, but it's
almost kind of like a zombietype deer head.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I look at it every day.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
It's cool.
But yeah, the score in thismovie is amazing.
I don't know.
It's just dark.
It just makes you feel likenothing good is going to happen.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
And it's true, real underbelly tones Makes you feel
like nothing good is going tohappen, and it's true, Real
underbelly tones.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
So Kate asks Alejandro if there's anything
she should know about the cartel.
He says you're asking me how awatch works.
For now just keep an eye on thetime.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah, Like tell me everything about the cartel real
quick.
They do drugs and they're bad.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
They're bad.
So they arrive in El Paso, theyshow up mid-briefing of their
mission.
The team, which includes DeltaForce operators, deputy US
Marshals and CIA personnel,assembles in El Paso and travels
to Juarez, mexico, to extraditeDiaz's brother, guillermo do
you like how, whenever they wereintroducing some of the teams,

(48:24):
like these guys are from Texas,obviously because they have
cowboy hats.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
And they're talking oh yeah, you're going to be
awake for that buddy.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
And then you have Matt, it's like, yeah, love.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Texas.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
And then so Kate suspects that both Matt and
Alejandro are from the CIA.
She learns that Alejandroworked for Mexico as a
prosecutor.
He tries not to answer anythingwhile she's asking constant
questions.
He says nothing will make senseto her American ears, but in
the end she'll understandeverything.
Then Matt comes in.
Matt refuses answering anyquestions Kind of a theme for
the beginning of this movie andsays that Kate volunteered for

(48:57):
the operation as she's onlycleaning messes in Phoenix,
Phoenix, and now she had agenuine chance to get at the men
responsible for the messSomething I like.
This he's like just stay herethen if you don't want to go.
Because, they can operate onforeign soil because they have
the Texas Rangers.
Technically she's not neededfor this part.
Later, they definitely need herin the final raid because they

(49:21):
have to have somebody from andyou gotta have just one girl
around, yeah it's true, come on,it's got to pass the bag.
Tell test um so yeah uh, greatscene love uh just, I love all
the actors.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Is that what venicio del toro says?

Speaker 1 (49:40):
uh, or madeline is his name no, that's the name of
the cartel.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
But he's like if we find him it would be like a
vaccine, or is that later,that's?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
a little later, one of the buses, yeah.
So a group of black.
I don't know why I said blacklike that.
Sorry, I said it a little toowhite, too southern and white
there.
A hard B on that one.
That's going to get cut out,man.

(50:10):
I'm glad Devin wasn't here.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Why'd you emphasize so much on?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
that we got an Amber Alert boys.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
That's what I was hearing.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
It's not one of mine, is it?
No, it's Kingston Tennessee.
So if anybody out there has anyknowledge about child abduction
in Kingston Tennessee, so ifanybody out there has any
knowledge about a childabduction in Kingston, Tennessee
, and they're still missing aweek later.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Just go to our description That'll just be out
next week.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
In our fan mail, you can let us know if you know
anything about it.
So we got a group of black SUVs.
They're heading out to JuarezAlong with some helicopters in
the sky.
You get more great shots of thehard landscape when driving
into Juarez.
It's clear and easy to crossthe border, but the traffic's
terrible getting out.
Because you know why wouldanyone want to go there?
Everybody wants to get out.

(50:53):
Thought it's a great just kindof.
You didn't have to tell us, youjust showed us how nobody wants
to be there right now and whypeople are trying to get out of
that area of Mexico and intoAmerica, which makes you think
of real now, and why people aretrying to get out of that area
of Mexico and into America whichmakes you think of real life.
But and then?
But they were in Mexico right.
Well, they were in El Paso then.

(51:14):
Oh, ok, they hadn't crossed theborder yet.
Yeah, as they drive in, we getgreat oh, I love this part, dude
, put it in my veins so we getgreat shots of the mexican
police like coming in with themand it's like, it's like the
cameras on the truck.
Yeah, it's like bouncing alongwith it cops it's just like uh,
if this movie was just like anaggro dude action flick, you'd

(51:36):
be like yeah let's go, butinstead you're like ball
fundlers.
You're still just like, oh,jesus christ, what's gonna
happen on this trip?
Um, but yeah, love the shots ofthe trucks, just like, oh,
jesus Christ, what's going tohappen on this trip?
But yeah, love the shots of thetrucks, just like coming in and
like the point-of-view shots ofthe truck.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
I got really nervous whenever they stopped at the
traffic jam.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Oh my God it was ambush, ambush, ambush.
So like, and as the convoy'skind of driving, you got
residents of Juarez just likeplaying like paddle ball,
essentially.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Like none of them are reacting.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
This happens like all the time.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, and I think that's like a great like.
It's what you get used to.
Yeah, a great like thing.
You may not notice like thefirst time you watch it, but the
more you watch it it's likeshit man, like nobody's reacting
to this this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Yeah, the border.
They're always like thefederalities, like the federal
soldiers.
They're always driving aroundin trucks like that.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Really.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Like 10 or 12 in the back.
You know, just with automaticrifles.
It's so scary 60 miles per hourwith giant speed bumps, yeah
they fly around there.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
So, outside of seeing some dismembered people hanging
and having the route adjusteddue to activity, the pickup goes
smoothly.
I love when they stop, though.
They picked a very smart spotspot to stop, because when they
stop they're in front of wallscovered of missing women posters
, like right outside the caryeah, um, it's like shit they're
trying to tell us this is a badplace but yeah.

(52:57):
So they pull up to, I guess,like a mexican prison or
whatever, I don't know, uh,whereas the guy there and like
Matt, and some of the army dudesget out to go get him.
Alejandro tells Kate to keep alookout for the state police
because they're not always thegood guys.
But the team knows that themost probable location for an
ambush is at a border crossingarea.

(53:19):
So they decide to head backhome after picking up Guillermo,
because that went very smoothly, pretty easy.
So they decided to head backhome after picking up Guillermo,
because that went very smoothly, pretty easy.
And then, while heading to theborder, they noticed that a
police vehicle is travelingbeside them, a spotter vehicle.
And then, while crossing the ElPaso-Ores border, the convoy
gets stuck in a traffic jam.
While waiting for the jam toclear, the team notices

(53:39):
suspicious vehicles getting intoposition around the convoy.
Here's what I'm thinking If Iwas the cartel, I'd be like
should we send people withtattoos all over the face,
because they're probably goingto be like those might be the
bad guys.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Well, like a lot of those things of like the tattoos
is part of those games,especially when they were
probably like lower end on thereof the chain.
I would say Most of them dothat for like gaming tats, like
MS.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I would say most of them do that for like gang
attacks, like the MS-13.
I just feel like don't, don'tput the guys with the tattoos on
their face.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
One thing like when he's driving he's to see the
police car.
He says you can't trust statepolice and stuff and I was like,
oh, what comes up later?

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Exactly.
But yeah, I love this Cause.
Like one car pulls up and it'slike the guy is just sitting
back like acting normal, butlike we'll show in the car later
that they all have their gunsjust like right here ready to
start firing.
The team knows it's about to beambushed by low level cartel
hit men and the Americans launcha preemptive attack to kill the
hit men because one guy justopens the door slightly, they're

(54:39):
all out immediately Like no, no, no, no, no.
And then eventually one lookslike they're about to shoot and
they, like you, pretty much,execute them immediately and
easily yes, I wonder if theywere thinking like how did they
spot us so easily?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
yeah, yeah, well they're.
I love the way they do itbecause you can see they're
looking at the most.
It's because those people werenot the ones with all the
tattoos, were not like they'renot trained, they're just
because they're just people whoget off the street, who are
either dealing or they'readdicted and it's a yeah, it's a
loyalty thing and they're justnot like put together, like

(55:15):
trained as well as these, yeahwhat?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
and it's just, I don't know it's just I love how
non-plussed all the othercivilians were whenever the
shooting started happening.
That's why they like.
This is why we want out.
It's like it's right there.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
It's like please just let us get over there.
But so like, as they justeasily kill all them during the
fight, kate is forced to kill aMexican federal police officer
and is left visibly disturbed bythe violence because she
notices out of the corner of hereye that he's like coming in
and shoots at her and then she'slike, ah shit, bam.
So I love that, obviously, likenone of the people in the hit

(55:51):
men essentially they're.
They can't see these carsbecause whenever it comes out I
was like, oh yeah, their car iscompletely tinted.
So, that's why they're able toput their guns up like they're
just ready to fire immediately.
Great little details, you know.
Hell yeah, the suspense isgreat, yes, and you're like
you're so.
You want it to go down.
And then when it does go down,and then it kind of like pans

(56:11):
over to like the like.
It almost looked like there'slike a Mexican taxi or whatever
and you just kind of see like aguy getting out to look and it's
like a guy just like brain'sblown out, and it's just like
brain's blown out and it's justlike oh, I was so excited for it
to happen, but now I kind offeel really bad about it.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
One thing I will say, because some people could say,
like, why didn't they just senda bunch more people?
Yeah, the thing is, is that atleast if it is from Narcos, they
don't technically want to causea bunch of people to hate them,
because they do partially liveon like, like you, don't if you,
because if you get all thepeople in there, like you kill

(56:47):
all these people, you have arevolution of people at your own
place.
So they tend to send smallerteams, so there's less
casualties.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Gotcha, that makes sense.
So are you, do you guys likethat?
It was kind of it was ashootout, but it was kind of
like a it out, but it was kindof like a it was controlled
shoot.
It was like a lack of ashootout almost it was.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
A suspenseful controlled shootout is what I
really like very precision based.
Yeah, they were very fun.
They were so perceptive and onedge, like they knew it was
gonna happen.
Yeah, it was kind of cool.
Well, I like that.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
Nobody was completely clueless, nobody was like
there's the lax person and theyget shot because it's like this
is what happens when you don'tpay attention to keep your head
on a swivel type thing, everyonewas ready.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
They're very professional and Kate's like
what are we doing here?
We're not allowed to do this,not in Kansas anymore.
Yeah, speaking of that, kate iscompletely shocked.
Who now knows that Matt is CIAand confronts him, she says that
she is not a soldier andshouldn't be there.
But Matt says she is ready andthat's why they picked her.

(57:43):
And if they don't completetheir mission, then what they
saw in war as will eventuallycreep into america and dig in,
which I guess is, uh, whatpeople really think will happen.
Yeah and sure.
I have no idea if it will orwon't, because I don't live near
there or pay attention.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
It's a little bit our fault too.
Yeah, I mean not usspecifically.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
We have our own drug trade we keep control of.
We don't need the competition.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
We just keep sending them guns.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Just give it up boys, just bring me that Delta A,
that's all I have to say.
So back in the US they haveGuillermo in an interrogation
room.
They want him to talk, but hewon't.
This is the interesting part.
Yeah, and he's like no hablaingles.
I don't know why I even triedno habla ingles.
Yeah, great job, guys, I can'tdo it.
So they are going to sendAlejandro in.

(58:36):
Apparently they want to sendhim in and apparently Guillermo
will know him.
But first Alejandro runs into aman that seems to have some
power in Mexico, doesn't reallysay who he is.
He tells him about a secrettunnel that leads to Mexico,
into America.
There's also vague talk aboutsomething happening to Alejandro
.
We're assuming it's going to bea part of his family.

(58:56):
But yeah, with that informationhe's going to go in and posture
the fuck out of here.
I love when he walks in.
He's just like you want this.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
He's carrying that big jug of water.
Yeah, is he going to waterboardhim, or is he going to punch
him, or is he going to get realclose and put his penis?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
in his face, Like what happened At that point.
It was like power moves yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Super awkward, yeah Well, is this?
Because, like, guillermo knewhim and he knew he was like look
, this is your chance, right?

Speaker 2 (59:27):
now what I'm gonna do .
Yeah, so do you think?
What do you think they did toguillermo?
Do you think they waterboardedhim, or did they?

Speaker 3 (59:34):
could have splashed water on him, shocked him
because you hear him screaminglater.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
A little bit, yeah, but water conductive, I'm sure
they beat the shit out of him.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
they're probably like let's waterboard, waterboard
him.
That doesn't work.
He's already wet, let's shockhim.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Yeah, but with the whole cock in his face thing, I
was like maybe they raped himreal hard and then did all the
other stuff, because it shows.
The drain Is this Pulp Fictionin here, I don't know what they
do.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Usually waterboarding works.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Well, seeing his tactics with Jon Bernthal a
little later, it probably justgave him a hell of a wet willy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yes, ew, ew.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
But so he learns that the cartel uses a tunnel near
Nogales, sonora, to smuggledrugs.
In my notes I just put fuckingposturing the shit out of the
guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
Which I already said, but I just wanted to say it one
more time You're going toconfuse yourself with your notes
.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
No, I just really wanted to say that again.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
I thought it was very funny when I heard it.
I remember when I first watchedit I was like he's just like.
It made me think he's going todo something sexual to him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
But he's just, I think he's just like.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
I have the power here .
Yeah, definitely, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yeah, so that night Kate is taken to the roof of the
village and is shown what theiractions have caused.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Do you want to see fireworks?

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah, which is essentially what they said they
wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
They just wanted to cause chaos.
That's what Matt said that theywanted to do so later.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
Reggie continues to keep a tab on Kate and meets her
when she returns the Phoenix.
They're all going to Tucson,arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Hell yeah I pronounce the C Tucson.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
It is Tucson.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
It's Tucson.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
You guys know I can't talk.
Can we not make it harder here?
So they arrive and it seemslike they are there to question
illegal immigrants about thecartel.
They need information thatcould help them find the tunnels
.
You got a good shot of theMexican people looking miserable
and staring at Kate, and thisis effective because Kate just

(01:01:36):
saw the gun show, probably, andwhere some of these people
probably came from, and knowsthat what they are about to be
like forced back into, which is,you know, supposed to be kind
of really like.
You know, we're just you'resupposed to be look like we want
to stop these people, but ohshit, they're like we just cause
more chaos to where they'regoing to go and it's going to be

(01:01:57):
even worse for them and it'slike Everything sucks.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Everything sucks.
It's the opposite of a Legosong Everything sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
So Reggie and Kate begin to question the task
force's illegal and seeminglyinexplicable methods.
Reggie asked Kate to getquestions, but she said that
she's tried and so now he shouldtry.
She's like well, it's like youcan try and do better if you can
.
He's like Matt, can we talkover here?
Daniel Kluge crushes, crushesin the scene.

(01:02:27):
He's like y'all got to stop.
There's like what does he say?
There's like there's leaving usin the dark, and then there's
what y'all are doing to us.
Yeah, so, kate, at first,reggie's like I'm going to walk
if you don't tell us, and Matt'slike we don't want you here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
You're here because of her.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
And then Kate's like oh well, I'll walk too.
So then Matt has to tell thetruth or she'll walk.
Finally, matt reveals theobjective is to not apprehend
Diaz, as originally suggested,but to disrupt his drug
operations to such a degree thatDiaz will be summoned back to
Mexico by his boss, elusiveSonora cartel drug lord Fausto

(01:03:07):
Alcaron Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Did I say it fast enough to where it maybe sounds
like I got it right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
You know how to do the vrrr right, the trill.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Yeah, you roll.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
They didn't really do it in the movie.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
They do it very well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
How would I know?
Because I can't remember,because my brain just fucking
shuts off as soon as I finishwatching the movie.
Apparently.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
I wish I had that, then I could watch movies all
the time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
By following Diaz, they will bring Alcaron to
justice.
Alejandro says that Alcaron isresponsible for countless deaths
in Mexico and finding him wouldbe like discovering a vaccine.
And they're like after theyhave the discussion, they're
like all right, why don't y'alljust go home and go to?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
bed RF.
They have the discussion.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
They're like, um, all right, why don't y'all just go
home and like go to bed?
Rfk's like don't find him,don't find him.
I just love like Reggie, thoughit's like I just drove a
hundred fucking miles fornothing, essentially, and it's
like, as they're walking around,he's like who the fuck's?

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Guillermo, I love that him in Nope and then
remembering Get Out and thenseeing him in this, I'm like
he's just a good actor maybelike have more of appreciation
for him after like seeing him.
So that's all I've seen him inis those movies.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Get Out and Nope, yeah, and then seeing him in
something else.
I was like, I like him yeah,you should go back and rewatch,
get Out his performance in that.
Make like a sad face, likenobody else I love his friend.
I came to pick him up oh yeah,I'm in the motherfucking tsa.
What's his name?

(01:04:30):
Is that little rel?
I believe that's a little relin that movie.
Yeah, he's so funny.
Oh, maybe I should watch that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I say that and I won't, so I don't know why I do
that when you say it, I'm like Iwant to watch it, and then I'm
like maybe I'll suggest it in alittle bit yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Well, I do want to do that.
I do want to start getting intoeither Nope or Get Out soon,
even Us, but that'll probably bethe last one I do.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Yeah, us was, I would say, on the weekend I'd have to
do so much research.
Yeah, that one I feel likecould kind of be not like that.
I would want to do ones that Ilike, which is Get Out like the
point of movies.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
before I get into the podcast was us like the
duplicate people.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah, so it was, from what I briefly remember it was
supposed to be, I think a thingabout, uh, native americans and
how like there are shadow orsomething like kind of like that
or like what we've done and tohide them away in this other
world is a whole thing and Idon't remember reading that when
we first watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Yeah, I remember reading like you remember there
was like the world connectingthing and that was yeah, I don't
know if I've seen us.
We'll get into that whenever wedo it, hopefully, but anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
To see.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Kate at home, distressed and looking up the
violence in Juarez.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Juarez.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Y'all are Ben Juarez.
I need a quesadilla from you,Dude seriously, it's crazy how I
know people that say it likethat.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Oh no, I was in Taco Bell one time and I always
thought it was a joke.
And I heard him yeah, can I geta quesadilla?

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
It's like that's not how you say that.
So we at a quesadilla and Ilooked like it's like that's not
how you say that.
So we get another scene inMexico where the kid is asking
about his father, but his fatheris at work and he's asking when
he'll get home.
Who knows when he could,because he works for the cartel.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
He's also a cop.
Yeah, yeah, probably works.
Nice seeing uh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
I don't know what it is, but every time he says it he
hands him that one plate.
Later on he's like here's youreggs, dad, jalapenos in there.
He's like, of course, I'm likeyeah, yeah, and then I think
about their legit jalapenos.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
God, that's a hell of a breakfast.
Yeah, I got that in my notes.
I got that in my notes.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
I'm like God, dang the acid reflux I'd be having
after coffee coffee beans, rice,eggs, jalapenos like legit,
like not pickled jalapenos, Iwould assume they're just fresh,
yes, and it's hot I lovemexican breakfast, fucking chili
quiles.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
Oh, love it my tummy would probably hurt.
No, if I didn't have the coffeeI'd probably been all right,
but like, adding the coffee onit, I'm like.
And then if?

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
that's what the whiskey's for even worse, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I just be like I'm done for the day, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
I was like, if you're giving me this, we're staying
home.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Diarrhea.
But if that's what you eat allthe time, probably get used to
it.
So Reggie and Kate are gettingready.
The next day he brings up thatshe needs a new bra.
We learned that Kate is aloneand Reggie wants her to date and
she doesn't have time for it.
Reggie says he needs to be withher because he doesn't trust
Matt and he needs somebody tohave her back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
I like how he's just freaking out for her.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yeah, hell, yeah.
Great friendship, good partner.
Yeah, makes the movie evenbetter.
So they go to theirheadquarters, which is set up in
a motel.
Matt asks what's the password?
She says moron word she saysand like and you know there's a
part of matt where it's likehell, yeah, she's fun, yeah, um,
some of the immigrants aregiving them the location of the
tunnel and I put my notes.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
I wonder if they give the immigrants citizenship for
helping oh hell no, um, they cansay they're gonna help them or
they could just offer them money.
Now the thing is because I'mjust comparing stuff to like
what I watch with Narcos,because this is pretty much like
the whole like drug thingyou're watching right now is all
of Narcos yeah, they will offerthem money.
They can say they'll offer them, like, safe passage into the

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states and a chance atcitizenship.
But if they follow through onit, yeah, or like because you
think when you sell someone outlike that, they usually can find
a trail of figuring out who didit.
Oh hell, yeah, um, but it itjust is like oh well, they
either offer help us get out orthey just give us enough money
that it's okay they don't putthem into like witness

(01:08:36):
protection or anything no,nothing like usually like that
for like some info like that,because if they did that they
would have so many like thewitness protection program from
just that area alone would be somassive.
It's just what they say, that wedon't know what they promised
them, because in that scene Iwas sitting here thinking like
what did they offer them?
They had to offer themsomething.
It's got to be a lot of money,because a lot of money can help.

(01:08:57):
It's like this money can helpyou.
Uh, you just have to get outbefore they track you back yeah
or they don't follow throughwith it, or they just threaten
them themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Yeah, um, another part of the scene I liked is
whenever they kind of point atwhere the tunnel's gonna be and
like all the uh immigrants arelike no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's what they wanted, andthen matt, like smiles so huge,
smiles so huge.
He's like we got it, Got him.
And then he like it's justsomething about the way that

(01:09:28):
anytime that he smiles, it'slike God dang dude.
I'm so in the bag for JoshBrolin right now.
But also, this is where welearn this like oh, it's time to
disrupt Diaz's cash flow cashflow, so the team are going to
raid a bank used by his moneylaunderers.
Kate and Reggie want to, sothey go in.
This is where it's kind of likea process a little bit right.

(01:09:51):
You have all the CCTV footageand stuff and tracking, and then
it like transitions into themwatching in their control room.
Love that shit, dude.
I love when they do that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
And then we see that we have a girl with blonde hair,
white bag, the color Smurf well, it's cause she's like the most
unassuming person you don'tthink to look at, and because
the Smurf, he's got like a whiteoveralls on blonde hair.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
That's what Smurfette , smurfette, yeah, that's what
the one chick in the Sm works.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
I love their little quote of, like you know, the
Heimlich.
I was like huh, she tries toeat that receipt, you get it out
of her.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Oh, that's good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
It'd just be soggy.
Yeah, she took out a bunch ofmoney and put it in a bag, so
they go out and they get her,they get the receipt.
Kate and Reggie are super happy.
Kate wants to go in and build acase over this because she
thinks they're doing everythingby the book.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Um, yeah, so kate goes in matt's like dude, don't
go in, that's dumb and like inthat scene I wonder if some
people were sitting herethinking like why, yeah, why not
go in?
But I'm like because I wonderif there's people who, because
immediately we all knew like,don't go in, you're gonna be
seen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Yeah, I wonder it did take it did take me a second.
Like when she first in, it'sreally when she goes in they
figure out that like the, it waslike $17 million or whatever.
And it was when the bank guylooks at Kate, weird and I'm
like I bet they're all in hispocket.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
That's the thing, this bank knows what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
That guy's going to like tell their boss everything
about that probably.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Or they know that, or there's also cameras, cameras,
yeah uh I don't know, I just Iloved it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
I just couldn't tell if he was gonna gonna be the one
like being like hey, it's thisbitch, or if it, I don't know
why I said that eyes, and earseverywhere, or if it's just like
one of those things where it'slike why did you come in here,
dude?

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
you shouldn't have came in, just felt so like don't
she, she's going in, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Ends up working out for Matt, though, but yeah, so
they go back in, they talk toMatt and it's like there's like
you got to let it go.
This isn't what we're doing.
This money, like this, isn'tgoing to do anything, like it's
all going to get thrown out,like somehow they're going to

(01:12:06):
get away from it all or whatever, like Diaz is going to be let
go or whatever, and they're notgoing to catch the real people
that are behind the whole carteland they're super frustrated.
Important thing to realize thetie-dye bands that they have.
Oh yeah, and they fell out ofthe bag full of monies.
Yeah, that's something thatwill come up very soon.
So, and then we finally get tomeet Manuel, who is learning
about his money situation.
We also see his kids playing ina pool, because everybody has

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kids and it's like a whole thingabout this movie, it's like a
big family, yeah, so Kate andReggie go to their boss to try
and get him to make a case withthe money, but they won't do
anything.
He says like look, we've beenknocking down doors and we've
been like getting money fromthese people.
Do you feel it on the streets?
Doors, and we've been likegetting money from these people.
Do you feel it on the streets?
And they're all like no.

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And he says the decision iscoming from people who are
elected to office and that ifshe feels yeah, and if she feels
that she is acting out ofbounds, he assures her she is
not.

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
I do love her like I don't know.
I think it's because after alsowatching fall guy and just her
chemistry with uh gling in thatshe's a good actress, like I,
really like.
She became someone who came inmy mind Like I really like Emily
Blunt.
She's almost at that.
She's pretty much almost atthat stage.
If I see Emily Blunt's going tobe in a movie, it's like I

(01:13:18):
could probably enjoy the movie.
Like certain actors areattached to stuff, you will
watch it.
Like if Defoe's attached tosomething, I want to watch the
movie.
Certain people like that andshe's become one of those
actresses and I'm like man.
I've been sleeping on blunt thiswhole time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
None Shit, bro.
Do more than sleep on one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
I'm not the one who likes blondes here, Jesse.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
I was making a weed joke.
I was like he's making fun ofme, sorry, I got PTSD from Devin
.
Oh great.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
Black's gonna yell at me now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Now, it's true, natalie.
So um, reggie and Kate decideto go drinking Hell, yeah, but
we also see Alejandro spying onthem.
Why Is he doing that?
Is he good?

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Is he bad?

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Who are these people?

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
So, while having fun at a bar, reggie introduces Kate
to Ted.
Oh, john Bernthal.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
I wasn't expecting him when I was watching.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Oh, first thing in theaters I was like oh, jesus
Christ, bernthal just walkedinto the bar and conspicuously
this is not going to go.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
well, I like their Dastlord, just go what we
learned?

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
that he's a friend and a Phoenix police officer.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
I do like because, like you, it made me think when
I see him, immediately thoughtsomething's going to happen.
But when Blunt's like oh, Iremember you heard saying that
she knows him, it kind ofestablishes that I feel like it
breaks your guard down a littlebit.
It's not the typical, like whenyou don't know someone, you're
like suspicious or kind ofknowing him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
Yeah and the fact that it's like Reggie's friend
yeah, it really breaks down thatthat wall, because the most so
like, let's say, we're watchingthis is a film from the
perspective of Kate, and herclosest person is Reggie.
So we all trust Reggie, and ifso, if Reggie trusts somebody,
well, god dang, we got to trusthim.
But it had to be John Bernthal.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
My wife said made a good point about this the scene
when they're they go, they getup to go dancing.
Is that you know?
Whenever a girl in a moviebecause in the beginning he's
like you collect shit, yeah, andthen she literally lets her
hair down, yeah, and ashley goes, yeah, you know, in movies
whenever a girl takes off herglasses or lets her hair down,

(01:15:32):
they get pretty yeah and plusyou know, it's just like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Finally, she's like not loosening up a little, she's
like not stressed out, becauseyou know, and plus she's making
out, it probably also sucks tohave your hair up all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Yeah Well, I can see it like that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
that's what Natalie says.
Three dudes talking about women, let's go.
But yeah, so they're dancing,they're drinking, and then all
of a sudden they start kissing.
Oh yeah, it's fun and you thinkeverything's happy for one, god
dang second.
But this is not a happy movieBecause Kate and Ted go to her
apartment, but as they start tofug Kate realizes.

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Ted is with a cartel because ofthose damn bands.
He's got the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
WWJD bracelet.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Shit, what have I?

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
done.
Oh no, she should just be likebest way to keep him distracted
is if we fuck, I keep going.
Yeah, she definitely does nothandle this.
The best she should just belike ah, best way to keep him
distracted is if we fuck, I keepgoing what, what?

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
yeah, she definitely does not handle this the best
yeah, I don't think she causeit's a shock and I understand
her.
She should have just been likeoh wait, hold on, I need a drink
of water or something.
Go to the kitchen where her gunis.
Get the gun.
Be like surprise motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
It's the theme of the movie.
Just work it into role play.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Sick Ooh by the way, I'm kind of kinky Put on these
handcuffs and let me get my gunand point it at you.
Hell yeah, Also, let's justtake it even further.
Let's go to the police station.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Try and get him to the bedroom so that way he
wouldn't have noticed.
Yeah, and then she could havebeen like.
Then she could.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I could see that handcuff thing working.
But dude was also like ready,she just needed to.
She was his target, she neededto get to the gun.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
But also think about this like dang dude, you could,
you had to, you were gonna fuckher and then kill her.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
You had to enter your pockets.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
All of them.
Here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
I do want to say I don't think he was gonna kill
her.
I don't think he was there toget information so he could
relay it back to the cartel.
It's until she gets the gun tolike shoot him.
So when she he's like well, Igot to kill her.
That was a real choke point,because now he knows, because
he's saying if I kill her and Iget out of here, I'll be all
right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:34):
That whole scene, like when he sees her mood
change and he looks at thebracelet and he makes a
connection.
He knows he's been caught, yeah.
But in the scene he's like, hey, kate, kate, calm down, the way
he is able to portray it wasn'tuntil, like, because it
happened so fast.
He's like, hey, hey, he's likeholding on to her, he doesn't
get aggressive, he's just likeuntil she hits him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
Yeah and he's like whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
But he's also a person like he was like she's
nuts right now.
I need to try and calm her down.
He's trying to hold her, thenshe reaches for the gun.
It wasn't until like he's onthe ground and like wrestling.
I was like you need to stop.
Stop the way he's portraying.
I still felt that moment.
It's like maybe she's justbeing over paranoid.
Maybe this scene's leading tothat.
What this can do to you andcause you to have over paranoia
it wasn't until I started tochoke.
I was like, okay, he's straightthere.

(01:18:17):
Yeah, that ahead of like.
Well, he punched her or shepunched him, and then she tried
to shoot him.
And I was like, yeah, of coursehe's gonna be like trying to
fight her.
Like holy shit, like he's a cop, he's gonna try and restrain
the person he chokes her out,just like he does all of the
perps.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
I mean all the women he meets at bars it's your fault
, yeah, but yeah, then when hestarts strangling her, you can
kind of see, like you know he'sso upset, he's like stop, stop
yeah, and it's just you know,and I do understand why she is.
I mean, she obviously has somesort of ptsd from everything
that she's kind of dealing withand she's like shit.

(01:18:57):
I'm in over my head ateverything I'm doing and it's
like she she's literally lostright now.
And then this is like she'slike she's like shit.
What now?
And then this is like she'slike she's like shit.
What the fuck is going on?
Let me shoot him she didn'teven hesitate.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
She knew survival this scene.
So good though he does such abecause, like his whole like
when he said there's stopchoking her, and you could see
on him that he doesn't want todo this and he's like I have to,
and I was like man.
That's another thing.
Pernthal's a great actor aswell.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Yeah, and there's a stacked movie with good actors
oh yeah, but yeah and and then,as she's getting strangled kind
of reminds me of no Country forOld Men.
When the guy's getting chokedout, it's great close up shots
of like everybody's face soundeffects of when she's getting
drugged.
Yeah, and then alejandrosuddenly appears and subdues him

(01:19:48):
, subdues him, seduces him um,and it's uh, fucking intense and
great and kind of sad at thesame time.
He's gonna kill him I just now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
He knows better.
It's just like messy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
I really just wanted kate to have a good night, you
know it's not possible that'swhat fucking sucks I was like
dude.
She finally trusted and waslike oh you know what, maybe I
can like be with a guy orsomething.
And he ruined it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Well, her friend kept talking about like you need to,
like you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Get out there and get you some.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
Yeah, and then Alejandro and Matt revealed that
they used her as bait, knowingthe cartel would try to
assassinate her or, I guess,essentially just come after her.
Really, but the way they dothat because it's like, because
she was seen at the bank.

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Yeah, but he told her not to go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:32):
And Brolin was like well, you did it, Now we can use
you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
And it's like you kind of used yourself as bait
yeah, that's how you're supposedto be able to trust me and I
almost got you killed yeah um,it's a shitty feeling.
Yeah, I love it.

(01:20:55):
I feel that all the time Ialmost get it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
So many people killed whenever like somebody you
think you know like fuckingdouble crosses you.
Yeah, yeah, sucks butt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Look at me, yeah, dakota.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
He said sucks butt.
And this looks right at me likeI did it.
You just suck butt.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
I was just making eye contact with our thoughtful
conversations we're having.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
I directed me, you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
I'm watching your six baby.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
You can be watching this six.
The disappointment in this wayis like I'm gonna have bad at
this so Alejandro and Matttorture Ted one thing.
It was like in that scene, causewe were talking about Del Toro
coming up and just likeflaunting his dick in his face
and I was rewatching it lastnight and I was like he gets in
that car, which I also love.
The quote by Brolin's like thebest thing is is about you

(01:21:43):
already being beaten to a bloodypulp.
Your scratches ain't gonna beany different.
Yeah, del Toro gets in there.
I swear he's like got his ballsin his hand.
He's like cause.
I was like wait, where's hishand?

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
It's not on him.
I thought he was putting hiselbow into his sternum.

Speaker 3 (01:21:56):
Oh, he could have been doing that too, but I
thought, like be honest, like Iwas just washing this again to
refresh it I was also trying tobe red at the time so I wasn't
fully in the scene, but I keptlooking over and it looked like
he was like putting pressure onhis crotch yeah, it was probably
something painful probably sureelbow on the sternum would suck
, but

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
he just got the finger in the ear would suck too
.
That is painful, yeah god.
And how did he get it so fardown?

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
that's the thing, is that we stop because we know but
if you're doing it to mess withsomeone you can get hurt so bad
.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Yeah, and so like they're torturing him just to
reveal the names of otherofficers working for DS, they
threaten his family.
Essentially, they say we canput them under witness
protection or we can post theirnames all over the Internet.
Oh shit, hey.
Guess what Turns out these guysmight not be the good guys.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
That's exactly what they do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
And they say he can go to a like work camp or
essentially like a prison wherehe'll die.
So he's fucked and we alreadytalked about some of the torture
methods.
We did not pull bring up thepulling of the eyebrows, oh yeah
.
We very uh types of torture Ididn't think people were doing.
Usually you know you think ofwater torture, the electrocution

(01:23:09):
stuff pulling out likefingernails or cutting off
fingers.
You never think.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Damn like schoolyard stuff you know, I don't know I'm
trying to think of, like he hadcuts on his faces, his faces,
his face, and like pulling itcould have agitated it.
It could just all be a quickthing to keep you disoriented
Ripping your eyebrows.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
That has to suck.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
I mean, if you ever plucked your own eyebrows, it
kind of makes your eyes water alittle bit.
It hurts, natalie, always wantsto pluck.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Sometimes I'll have stray eyebrows and she'll be
like let me pluck it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
I'm like I'll sit there, you're my hairy boy.
So Alejandro checks in on Kate.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
He says that she reminds him of someone very
special and he's like sweet toher.
From this point on until theend of the tunnel, we get more
shots of the landscapes and adrone finding the location of
the tunnel, right where the caris blocking the tunnel, like the
people said.
So we cut back to the policemanin Mexico having his kid bring

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him breakfast in bed Rice, beans, jalapenos, coffee, a little
heartburn that's what I wrote inmy notes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
I want to know.
It's just like.
Is it just like you guys arethat good, you don't have acid
reflux or is it just like abooming business of Tums there?

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
I don't know.
I would just assume you knowthat's like the food of the
people.
That's probably what they'reused to.
I feel like eventually itcatches up to you.
But if it, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
I'm like dang, it really shows you.
Just eating it constantly, youget used to it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Yeah, counter drug, it's called bino, it's really
just a supplement.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Yeah, you know, in this house, yeah, that's you,
gotta take it with you oh yeah,anytime like, uh, my
girlfriend's talking abouttraveling, I always you always
see like you don't want to drinkthe water there because it's
different yeah, don't getpopsicles uh, anything like that
.
It's like based off their watersupply because it's not treated
the same and it could really.
That's why you see people whogo.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
They're like, oh, my stomach hurts yes, it's full of
amoebas that make you sick.
There's one specific amoeba,that's everywhere.
Shit, not me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Bro, I got amoebas all through me right now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
I just got like a flash of osmosis, joan, in your
head.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Going around Hell.
Yeah, so they're back at theheadquarters, they assume, as in
the motel, they soon learn thatDiaz is being recalled to
Mexico, as they hoped.
Kate questions the good news,pointing out that they have no
jurisdiction in Mexico.
This is where Matt states thatshe and Reggie were simply being
used as working with US lawofficers, grants the CIA legal

(01:25:38):
permission to continue.
And this is where I was talkingabout earlier, where Matt has
been pretty chill and all smilesas soon as he's like reveals
that information it's like he's.
the facade's gone, it's like hey, I got my army dudes here, you
can leave, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
but you're not.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Yeah, they're essentially said you were going
to go to the tunnel and you guysare just going to sit back.
We don't need you at that point.
And also they something thatthey didn't understand or hear
was this this is like a, like a,a go and drop.
It's like a drop off mission.
And that's because it'sAlejandro kind of just says it

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quick and like I noticed thatReggie and Kate didn't like seem
to notice that they're tryingto absorb everything.
I think they were just alreadylike kind of looking at each
other confused before they evensaid it and they're like what
the fuck is going?

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
on here.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
I love it, though I love this scene.

Speaker 3 (01:26:31):
You feel confused with them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Oh no, just like the scenes in these rooms where
they're, just like you, justwatching Reggie and Cage.
It's like no, what is happening?
Why are we doing?
What are we doing again?

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
No dull scene in this movie Like you can sit here and
think we can take this out.
Every scene feels like it'skind of important.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Hell yeah, Like when you have that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
It's only three action scenes, I know, but it's
like everything else with thetension between them because
when I watched the first time,you know you're pacing, you're
in it with yeah, because Ialready knew and at this point
you still got 40 minutes to goand it doesn't feel like it,
mainly because it kind of goesharder 15 or 20 minutes of like
credits.
I had to turn it off rightafter she comes out of the

(01:27:10):
tunnel, because I need to go tobed yeah and I was like well, I
remember exactly how it ends,because that ending seemed a lot
.
Yeah, it's great it's a very funending.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Yeah.
So, angered, reggie advisesthat he and Kate leave the task
force.
But of course Kate's not goingto want to, and this is why Matt
picked her, because she knewshe wouldn't want to leave
because she's seen too much.
She's a thumper, yeah, but sheinsists on joining a task force
raid on the tunnel to learn moreabout the operation's true
nature.
Time for the mission.

(01:27:40):
Cut to the Mexican policeofficer, whose name's Silvio,
getting his car loaded withdrugs.
Now we know what he does he wasunloading them.
No, this one he's loading up andhe's going to take it to the
tunnel.
Oh, okay, and we see Manuelgetting back into Mexico.
The task force gets close tothe tunnels.
The task force team are nowsuper rude to Kate and Reggie

(01:28:01):
Facade's gone.
They're like fuck you guys.
We were just being nice to you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Yeah Well, it's also like when you get that team and
you're working with them, theyare not technically a part of
the team Like you're.
It's like you need to staybehind, out of our way.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Yeah, it's like they're kind of like we're the
fine, well, they need them forlater.
They just they need to makesure they don't die so that they

(01:28:31):
can sign off on paperwork,essentially.
Um, yeah, but everything'schanged now, like they're
essentially they're just trashto everybody at this point, um,
and now they continue on foot.
I love this shot so much Becausethey just get out and it's like

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dusk right and the sun's almostcompletely down and you can see
them walking.
You can't see their lowerhalves, but you can see their
top halves because you got alittle bit of light and you just
see them walking and it's astatic shot and they're all
disappearing.
Yeah, to the darkness, bro.
It's like let's go.
It's so good.

(01:29:12):
It's like walking into theocean and disappearing.
Essentially, it's just likethey're ghosts, like walking
into the mall it's like.
The difference between the SWATteam earlier is pure daylight.
You know they could be seenfrom other houses.
They just drive the truck intothe tunnel boom.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
But this is like a military, you know they could be
seen from other houses.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
They just drive the truck into the tunnel, boom.
But this is like a militaryforce here.
They're like all at night.
It's stealth, it's so fun.
Just this one shot just tellsyou everything.

Speaker 3 (01:29:41):
It's kind of like about these people.
Zero Dark Thirty yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Yeah, that's a fun movie.
Fun and man, the beginning ofthe 9-11 stuff, oh so sad it's
like you just hear a bunch oflike the phone calls and stuff
when they're like in thebuilding as the towers are going
down.
It's kind of the setup to likethis is why they did all this
yeah, do you like that movie?
You see it on 30.
I don't think I've seen it.
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Was the little kid in Indiana Jones.
He's like the plane.
The plane Was he.
Was he there on the phone?

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
No On 9-11.
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Damn it, Jason.
Don't you remember when Ibrought up 9-11 and Toy Story?
It completely derails thepodcast.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I could see that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
I just thought of like Buzz Lightyear flying into
the towers now because I don'tthink I listened to that episode
.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
All right, I'll get you, emperor, zerg infinity hit
me on.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
God damn, all right, let's golly, we gotta stop
bringing it up in movies.
Um so, anyways, best damn shotof the movie.
Love it just.
Ah, just, it's magic, it'smovie magic, right?
If you don't like that shot,get out, maybe miss the the
scenery and the weather downthere yeah, hot well

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
it's just, it's a dry heat, very dry it is I noticed
like when I went it was like a101 or something and I was
standing outside.
But I will say, like their 100degree weather is kind of like
our 90 degree, but add the soupair to it and it's so much worse
because it was hot.
I was standing outside and theywere like hey, you look like

(01:31:22):
you're getting red.
So I was standing there and Iwas like, well, I'm hot, but I'm
not like breathing in thatthick air, so it wasn't as bad
Shit.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
Yeah, you are hot boy .

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Thicker than a snooker.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Hot boy summer.
Um well damn, all right, let'sget back into it Now that we've
covered 9-11.
Yeah, so they go into thetunnels and they're not vision.
It's fantastic I love when,like military movies start doing
night vision.
Yeah, night ops.
It just brings like a realismto it, I guess, or whatever.
Kate and Reggie are in the backhearing the commotion, not

(01:31:55):
really seeing much.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
We see like a guy, like walking in with a knife,
the one dude with the knife.
Yeah man, that's so cool,that's killer Stabbing dudes
firefight.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
She sees Alejandro go a different direction than the
rest of the team and decides tofollow.
They should have had them inthe middle of the group, not the
back of the group, but thetunnels were like super
confusing.
I feel like it's super easy tolose everybody.
Oh yeah, because as they'rerunning around, I was like
where's?

Speaker 3 (01:32:23):
everybody going.
Yeah, I was very confused andyou could see that with her.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
These guys knew exactly where they were going.
Yeah, they had it all plannedout.
They just didn't care if Reggieor Kate knew anything.
They just had one military guywith them being like all right,
you got to watch these guys, allright.
So at the Mexican end of thetunnel, kate sees Alejandro
kidnapping one of Diaz's drugmules, silvio, and like, because
, like Silvio and like thisother guy, they're just like

(01:32:46):
trying to throw the drugs out.
So he's like I gotta get out ofhere.
I gotta get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Yeah, they're just hearing all the gunfire and the
other guy like starts pointing agun at him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
He's like yo what?
And then Alejandro shoots him,and then he's like gonna take
Silvio Also before we get intoit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Speaking of work, the boxes in the background isn't?

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
that weird they're stacked exactly like them.
I'm like, ooh, I wonder ifthey're the same boxes.
So Kate attempts to arrestAlejandro for his illegal act,
but he shoots her in herbulletproof vest, angrily
telling her to never point a gunat him again before driving
away with Silvio.

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
I was like oh crazy dang and like it wasn't like a
delay, he literally immediatelysaw her pop.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
I was like oh, all, right then.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
This shows you how good of a like a sassanese is.
He shot her twice, probably inthe two different plates that
she has in her swat gear.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
It's like two shots would be enough to take you down
where I can leave.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Yeah, and also saying something cool before, before
he leaves.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
I just loved it.
Yeah, now catch your breath andget back out there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
That's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
She gets choked out a lot with like bullets and we've
seen him good at torture and asfar as we knew, that's all he
was good at.
And then this show is like youshouldn't mess with this guy in
any sort of way.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
He's so talented.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
He's such a dreamy, talented guy.
Talented guy.
And then realizing thatAlejandro is operating illegally
with the task force support andthat there was never any
intention of bringing Alcar,alacron and Diaz to justice
through legal channels, kateconfronts Matt and just punches

(01:34:23):
him in the face.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
I love that.
Also, when they came out of thetunnel, she's like wait,
where's Kate?
He's like where's Kate?
Yeah, like we left one behind.
Let's go back, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
Well because, like before that, they were even like
saying like, oh, too bad, wehad to babysit these bitches.
It's like it seemed like theydid a good job.
I don't know like, did youreally have to?

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
babysit them.
They have to worry about thatperson's life in your hands yeah
um, when she comes up, it'slike because you can hear and
it's punches, she's got thatadrenaline, she's ready to go,
yeah, and she punches matt, matt, like takes her down easily,
and then reggie's trying tofight back.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
But then like the army guys like get on, and it's
like lay down, let it happen.
It's like, oh, fuck you guysyeah, no one does that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
I love when he pins her down.
She's like you.
You need to calm down.
Let that adrenaline come down.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Let the anger come out, so we can talk yeah, and
then Matt explains they areattempting to return to a time
when a single cartel Medellinran the drug trade.
Medellin ran the drug tradeColombian cartel.
This monopoly gave US morecontrol.
Monopoly gave US more control.
Alejandro, who worked forMedellin, was brought on to

(01:35:37):
topple the Sonora cartel byassassinating Alarcon Alarcon
Alarcon.

Speaker 3 (01:35:39):
Alarcon.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
Sure, people are like , just like, please, just like,
running off the road, just belike in this, in this, thus
reducing cartel competition.
In this, in this, thus reducingcartel competition.
Alejandro's own motive isrevenge, because the drug lord
cartel boss had ordered themurder of Alejandro's wife and
daughter by cutting off wife'shead and putting the daughter

(01:36:00):
into a barrel of acid in frontof him, tied to a chair, as
we'll learn.
Kate says she will talk, butMatt says that would be a major
mistake.
I love it when she gets up.
I won't, I'll talk.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
It's like she just fucking crushed it Whenever they
talk about him putting hisdaughter in acid.
Did anyone else think of thebad guy from who Framed Roger
Rabbit?

Speaker 3 (01:36:20):
Yeah, no, just to me.
I was like, ah, this guy's gotsome little bit of issues he
might want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
I thought of, um, like I think it's season one of
breaking bad, where, uh, theyhave to like put that guy in the
vat of acid.
It's like it's got to be aspecific type of uh container,
and that's what I think aboutwhen I think of acid.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
It was funny because when I first saw that scene in
breaking bad, I was like youcan't do acid in the uh bathtub
and I was like for for one, it'sgoing to ruin your pipes.
And it never occurred to me.
And he's like it's a special.
When he said this thing doesn'tbreak down, I was like oh yeah.
And then he fell through.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
I was like oh yeah, acid, yeah.
Great scene though it's thewhole, it sums up the entire
movie, essentially everythingthat's been going on.
That's been going on, um, andit's just like you just want to
be like shit, dude, not us, notamerica, right?

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
he reminds me of denzel washington from that
other movie, just like killingeveryone.
Oh, alejandro, yeah, man onfire.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
Yeah, man on fire.
You haven't seen it.
You should watch it.
It's a long movie but it likeit goes.
It's a fun movie.
It's a.
It takes place in mexico city.
Oh no, it's got.
What's her face?
Dakota fanning?
Yeah right, yeah, you shouldwatch it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
It's really good well , the last denzel washington
movie I watched because all myco-workers really love the
equalizer films, and I watchedthe second one.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
I'm like should watch the first one.
Yeah, is it anything?
It wasn't I heard that one'sfun it's fun, it's like it's two
and a half hours long yeah,it's just a lot of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
You don't get a lot of his cool like stuff like the
it's Home Alone and Home Depotright yeah, that's what made

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
it's one of those fun ones.
It's like to me.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
It made me think like Budget John Wick type of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
I remember there was a guy at work and he was bald
and we worked at Home Depot andso he just it's like I'm Denzel
Washington for all.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
I was like it was good.
The second one, though, it doesnot flow as well.

Speaker 1 (01:38:13):
Those are like some, some movies that people are like
yeah, we know they're not great, but we love them.

Speaker 3 (01:38:17):
I think it's because Denzel makes it yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
Denzel is the best ever.
He's awesome.
Yeah, so yeah, that's the plotof the movie.
They just want the Colombiancartel to be a part of it.
So in Mexico, alejandro forcesSilvio to drive him to Diaz.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
He sadly kills Silvio and forces Diaz to continue to
the drug lord he's really funnywhen he got out of the car and
he's like do you know who I am?
I'm Jeff yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
I'm Jefe.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
I guess that means boss.

Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Yeah.
And then he gets out, shootshim in the leg and he's like no,
take me to your jefe.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
I love that he took him out no hesitation, shot him
so he could get back.
It was just a good scene ofthat setup.
He's like either you tell himto get out or I'll kill you.
Yeah, given that hope of like,he's not like.
Okay, if I at least do this,maybe I can get back.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
It's just like.
What I just think about, though, is Sylvia's son.
Just like fuck dude.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Yeah, sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
It's like now that wife's gotta like just take care
of a single, like just be asingle parent.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
And it's like what's her job?

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
It's almost kind of like a war zone they lived in
poverty, probably, and now like,what's she gonna do?
Sucks, why Drugs is this is,drugs are bad.
Why did it have to happen?
But yeah, all this washappening at like a traffic stop
.
Essentially, that's great.
So they're reaching the estate.

(01:39:38):
Alejandro kills Diaz, all theguards, diaz, he used Diaz, he
cuts his throat and makes himcontinue driving.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
That was sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
Yeah, it was a pretty fucking wicked boy.
So he sneaks into their placeand sits at their table during
dinner Al-Gurl, al-gurl, al-gurl, al-gurl, al-gurl, al-gurl,
al-gurl, al-gurl, al-gurl,al-gurl, al-gur.
Yeah, I'll say that.
Fausto tells him that thepeople who sent him there are no

(01:40:09):
different as in America or theColombian cartel.
That's who they learned it from.
He says he also asked if hiswife and kids would be proud of
what he has become.
Fausto says it wasn't personal,but Alejandro says it is to him
.
He asked not to kill him infront of his boys, and then

(01:40:29):
Alejandro kills his wife and twokids right then, and there that
scene was so I just wasn'texpecting, because usually they
don't go that way.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
I was like he's going to kill him.
We're going to see him walkaway and see them laying down
and it was like he did it andit's like I don't care about
that.
This is for me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:48):
Like you can't convince me, I'm a man on a
mission he just wanted to seethe look he gives like after he
kills the kids.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Yeah, he's like I want you to suffer what I have
to and there was no hesitation,because sometimes when they get
there they're like those likebig revenge moments.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
They have that moment of hesitation yeah, he's like
what do your kids speak, do they?

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
speak English, yeah, and then he's like finish your
dinner.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
I was like it's not good that he killed him, but
it's just like I stillunderstand Because, just like
thinking of seeing your daughteralive put into a vat, they
didn't say she died.
They could have killed her andsaid we're putting her in a vat
of acid and that was it.
They made him watch.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
And that's fucked up.
A it's like that's fucked up Alot.
It seems like they did it withcheese alive.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Yeah, because when he has that nightmare and the
screams of the engine, you cankind of hear a little bit of
little girl screams and stufflike that.
It's like it's not right.
I understand yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
And then he tells him to finish his dinner and the
guy can't move, essentiallybecause he just saw the worst
thing ever to happen to him.
But it's like, hey, dude, thisis what you did every night that
you've been in power, so thisfucking sucks for you.
Because isn't he trying to saythose two kids were cute man,
yeah, I feel bad for him,fucking suck.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
I felt like he was trying to say like, yeah, it's
just always like this andeverything, and like you know,
there I think I've lost my trainof thought.
It's just he was trying to likereason his way out and I don't
think he expected.
When he killed them in front ofhim he was like oh, you're just
here for me yeah, he wasexpecting to die, but not them
to die and it's like hey now,you shouldn't
kill people's families, dude,this is what's gonna happen if

(01:42:21):
you're gonna do it, at least doit quickly, where I don't have
to watch them suffer, because ifthat happened I might not have
been on tirade as much.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
I might not have killed your kids that way yeah,
well, it's just like one of thesituations like, dude, you could
have just killed me, not myfamily, but you killed my family
, so now I'm gonna kill you,create a monster, yeah
essentially the monster um thesins of the father type of thing
, yeah, so yeah, and that'spretty much the uh conclusion of
the movie, except for justthese little two parts here this

(01:42:47):
is such a big part of the.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
one, yeah, but that was like.
Uh, that was like the wholemission was just that it's the
americans led a hitman tosomeone's house so that he could
kill the guy and wife andcreate a power void so yeah, so
like if it put someone in thereit is a place that they control.
That's what they did, but theysent, they literally let led a

(01:43:13):
hitman to kill two kids and awife that were probably
obviously the kids werecompletely innocent.
I don't know about the wife,right, she probably knew
everything that happened, stilllike she's.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
she's more of an accomplice.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
She probably didn't do anything.
I feel like that's what reallymakes this shitty.
It's like like you can't belike, yeah, America.
It's like no, no, we just letthis guy to kill two innocent
kids.

Speaker 3 (01:43:32):
It's the real world of what things are, because it's
like if you look at it, it'slike it gives you an inclination
of how bad that guy is becausehe's putting children alive in a
vat.
It's like, well, we can putsomeone in there and have, like,
we get rid of him, we can havethat happen.
We can at least have acontrolled violence.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
It's like no kids being killed, no women type of
thing cause maybe I don't thinkthat when they put this other
cartel into place they're notgoing to be like.
You can't kill kids at Whibbit,just not in America it's more
like controlled of, like theyjust don't want it to come into.
America, they don't care whathappens there, that's just how I

(01:44:16):
feel like it probably would be.
I don't know, I know nothing.
It's all terrible.
So to finish off the movie,Alejandro appears in Kate's
apartment where she's smoking acigarette.
He says probably shouldn't beon the balcony for a while and
forces her at gunpoint to sign awaiver legitimizing the
operation.
She says she can't, but he saysit would be like committing

(01:44:38):
suicide and then puts the gununder her chin.
He says she reminds him of hisdaughter.
She eventually signs.
As he leaves.
She comes out because hecompletely dismantles her pistol
and then you just hear as he'swalking putting it back together
and she aims her pistol at himbut cannot bring herself to pull
the trigger because it's a landof wolves and she's not a wolf.

(01:44:59):
And that's why she was pickedfor this whole thing, because
they knew that he couldmanipulate her and that she
probably would just follow alongand not do anything about it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
It's like because you are a good person.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
Yeah, this is sitting here.
It's like no country for EmilyBlunt.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
And then we go back to Mexico.
Silvio's widow watches herson's soccer game.
The game is briefly interruptedby the sound of gunfire before
continuing, because now nothingis any better for them.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
Nope At all, it's probably going to be worse for a
while.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Oh yeah, because when power vacuums happen, it's
chaos, it's going to be a bunchof people fighting in the
streets and who knows what'sgoing to happen to this family
that, even though we didn't seea lot of the kids seem nice and
the wife seemed nice.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Yeah, the kid really loved her to his dad, wow, and
the wife seemed nice.
Yeah, ken really loved her tohis dad, wow one thing you don't
really like.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
You know they're like , you can see, they're like oh,
he's gone, but it seems likethey kind of knew.
It's like we know what he'sinto, because obviously the big
gun like it's.
It's just a matter of if yeahor not.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
A matter of if, of when and when it so we're gonna
move on to our first categorythe good, the bad, the ugly, the

(01:46:22):
fine.
It's where we discuss the goodof the film, something we like,
the bad, something we didn't.
The ugly, that something didn'tage well.
To find something that did agewell.
Anybody want to kick off.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
I would say more of like it was more of like a
nitpick, it was just more of aFor the good, oh for the good.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Yeah, that's how the podcast worked.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
You know how to talk.
No, Okay, I think the good isjust generally the movies.
The casting choices were reallygood.
Cinematography it's like I saidearlier every scene feels like
it's useful.
It's not like we could dowithout this.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
I thought the story was really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Just the seedy underbelly of our own government
trying to control the worldthrough crime yeah, Trying to
keep us safe while causing somuch the world through crime
yeah, it's great.
Trying to keep us safe whilecausing so much danger for other
people yeah, it's the way theworld works, baby.
Yeah, democracy, baby.
I just put like it's just likeit's a tactical movie.
Yeah, it's very tactical and Ilove it.

(01:47:22):
You guys pretty much saideverything else that I put down,
that I put down, but I justlove like a nice, like just like
let's gear up and go and it'slike all hell break loose.
You know, we got to plan stuffand it's fun and it makes me
feel like shit and I love it.
It really did show a lot ofplanning stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:47:37):
Yeah, I love that because and you can do planning
where it's not boring becausethey kind of move in a fast way
Everyone they speak their line,they go to it, it speak their
line, then go to it.
It's not like hover on it andkeep beating the details down.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
Because there's sometimes you're like I don't
need this scene here.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
It's the stuff between saying the plans, Like
whenever they're saying they gotto go to Juarez, right it's.
Oh, here's the Texas Rangers.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
And then you have.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
Josh.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Brolin.

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
There's things in between to keep you, josh Brolin
, saying I love Texas, and thenyou got the whole, like when
they introduced Matt being there, whatever he said, the VIP of
it and he's like one of theTexas Rangers is like you sober
and he's like I'll get, I willbe when I get there.
And then like Texas Rangerslike well, I got a bottle of
Jack in the car and it's likefun.
They added like some humanityin between the planning stuff.

(01:48:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Which just helps.
It felt kind of reared.

Speaker 1 (01:48:32):
Who can't talk now?
Dakota.

Speaker 3 (01:48:34):
You rub off on me.
I can't help it.
It feels like a realconversation because I don't
know.
You just talk about planningand anytime meetings would
happen at work.
They tell you the plan.
Then you go on your side, youtalk about like well, this and
that, and giving each other crap.

Speaker 1 (01:48:49):
Or you talk about this ain't gonna work and stuff
yeah, so um, for me the bad oruh, drugs are bad, okay, drugs
fucking sucks.
I don't have anything likeactually about the movie that I
found bad.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Well, the bad for me was with the guy.
He was like, hey, how you doing?
And then the guy goes uh, burnswhen I pee and there's like
gross man.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
Yeah, it was almost like a.
It doesn't go too far with likethe uh, uh cheekiness I guess.
Um, but yeah, I could.
Yeah, I understand.
It's like we're in a veryserious.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
I've never had gonorrhea yeah, I don't speaking
of which it sounds likesomebody that's had gonorrhea
yeah, I don't Speaking of whichit sounds like somebody that's
had gonorrhea.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
See it all over my face, my girlfriend mentioned.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
I could have got that because when I was at that
haunted house the other nightwent to the port party vape fell
on the ground or on the floor.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Really yeah, and you kept smoking it.
No, I walked out and I handedit to her.

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
I was going to wash my hands real quick, so can you
throw the switch?
She's like, don't hand that tome.
And I was like she's right, soI threw it away and then, of
course, as I put the soap in myhands, there's no water.

Speaker 1 (01:49:54):
You should use the toilet water, so my bad would be
what you just said, that'sgross.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
I want to ask this of like Jason, because it was the
same thing before with noCountry for Old Men.
It was like what can you thinkof that is legitimately bad?
The only thing I can think ofin no Country was just the bad
CGI.
I don't want to say it's aperfect movie, but it's a movie
that doesn't have the regularfaults of Just get the
perspective I didn't really seeanything bad.

(01:50:24):
That's what makes the movie sogood.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
The airplane shadow Same CGI.
Oh, that's the only bad CGI init also, I'm pretty sure that
the helicopter is at the AirForce Base.
I feel like some of those wereCGI, but that's very nitpicky.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
They could also not be CGI could be the way the
focus was, I guess it's likeit's weird to think because,
like other movies, like oh, wecould do without this, ah, that
was bad.
But this is not one of thosemovies.
I'm just like.
I feel like I'm just being liketotally biased, but there's
nothing wrong with it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
You loved denny, baby .
You loved denny.
He's also probably the best useof cgi out of all our directors
.
Right now I feel like that,other than maybe, uh, gareth
edwards got rogue one and ohyeah uh, the creator he's got a
new thing coming out that'ssupposed to be pretty good,
hopefully.
Um, so the ugly I put, um, it'salmost kind of like let's see

(01:51:18):
how should I put it.
So this movie feels so realright and you're like this is
probably how this shit goes down, but it's probably not, no, and
um, it's not like.
I'm not saying like, oh, thefilmmaker should be responsible
of like trying to tell all thetruth because people are going
to see this and be like, oh,this is how the everything
fucking goes.
So I just put like, maybe likeit, because when I was watching

(01:51:42):
it I was like man, like peopleare probably gonna watch this
movie and be like oh, yeah, thisis how it all works well, it's
like, what's the?
responsibility of a filmmaker,but also, at the same time, I
don't care.
It just made me think about itfor a second and I was like that
might be a good ugly, becauseyou know, there's like the
Facebook movie, right, social.

Speaker 3 (01:52:00):
Network I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
That's how Facebook was made.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
And it's mysticism to it yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
So I don't know.
I guess that could be ugly.
If that's something you don'tlike in movies, I don't care,
because I feel like I'm smartI'm smart enough to know that
this is just movies.
Some people aren't.
Yeah, anybody else got anyuglies?

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
not really like that uncomfortable feeling of
thinking that this might be whathappens, how it works.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:31):
I think that's my answer.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Sure, there's stuff that happens like this.

Speaker 3 (01:52:33):
but like you know, Well, I call it the ugly truth
of how America really works.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
Yeah, all right, so I put aging.
Well, I put Emily Blunt.
Yeah, benicio Del Toro, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
Benicio Del Toro.
I was sitting here.
I was like man, get Benicio DelToro and Javier Bodim together,
I would just watch that movie,yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
But after this movie, emily Blunt she had a lead up
coming to this.
She was in the Devil's Prada,the Tom Cruise movie.

Speaker 3 (01:53:04):
I talked about Live, die Repeat Edge of Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
And you, you know, but like I feel like after this
movie it was just like EmilyBlunt is good, is here and she's
gonna be blunt about it andshe's she's so good cause like
this thing, like she's good atbeing the action serious person
didn't watch Fall Guy and she's.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
I was like I could see you in like Alita's, a
rom-com role role.
Like you have range.
I guess that I could see youpulling off certain role like
roles you do well and it's justlike you are in stuff that like
because if you could do thesetwo well, it shows your range
can pretty much go to anythingshe's pretty much like uh,
probably one of our bestactresses yeah, because I I used
to think I was like, whatactresses do I really like that

(01:53:42):
I would watch, and she, like Isaid, she's become one of them
yeah, I don't feel like she'stalked as much about, like not
talked about as much as likesome of the other actresses, but
she's one of our best.
I think it's just.
I would say that's the uglyside of Hollywood, because she's
a little bit older, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
She broke through.
Yeah, any other finds Everybodygood.
Yeah, fine, the whole movie'sfine so we're going to move to
our next category, since thatone ended on a whimper Double
feature.
It's where we pick a movie thatwould go well with this movie.
Anybody want to start?
You want me to start.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Yeah, do you ever see the Salton Sea?
No, with Pierce Brosnan or he's, he's trying to uncover like a
meth ring and Arizona or Texasor something.
It's like super dark and it'spretty cool.
Oh, the Salton Sea.
Yeah, the Salton Sea.
He plays a trumpet, val Kilmer.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
Vincent D'Onofrio.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
Peter Zarsgaard.

Speaker 1 (01:54:39):
Maybe it was Val Kilmer, not Pierce Brosnan, adam
Goldberg, hell, yeah, yeah,luis.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
Guzman, danny Trejo, did you show anything?
It's streaming on because I cango home and watch it it is.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
You can watch now with premium subscription for.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
YouTube there's just like a dude there's a dude in
the movie that doesn't have anose.
He's got a prosthetic nose.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
Krillin, I'm glad you all laughed at that because you
knew what it was this is a 2002movie.

Speaker 1 (01:55:04):
Yeah, it's Thriller Mystery cool.
Yeah, it's thriller mysterycool.
Have to check it out.
Love Elk Homer, you gotanything bud?

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
yeah, I had to look it up because I was like, oh, I
didn't think of a movie and Iwas like let me look at
something similar and one thatkind of stood out.
It was more focused not on themystery part, more on like the
soldier part, was like AmericanSniper, which I think never seen
that never seen that it.
It shows you more of like whatit's like living in wartime and
like what American soldiers haveto go through.
Like there's regular peoplelike.

(01:55:30):
Oh, they're just going overthere doing the right thing and
it's just like there it's a wartorn country and there's certain
things they're doing that theythink is right and he had to do
a lot of stuff that like fuckedhim up.
Yeah, I don't think of like onthe, because I was thinking of

(01:55:51):
the military aspects with themen.
It made me think of it.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
Never seen it.
I remember there's like somecontroversy around the movie.
I just can't remember I thinkit was.
I think Seth Rogen called itlike American propaganda.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
It is like that it was more on the focus on like.
Like I said, it's a good film.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
I'm not going to say like it's not something you
should watch.
I've just never seen it.
I do.
I have wanted to rewatch it.
Clint Eastwood, bradley Cooper,hell yeah, because of that
movie they were able to.
They ended up going on anddoing Stars of War one of the
best movies ever made.
Dakota doesn't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:28):
I never finished it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:29):
I chose a Tom Cruise movie called American Made.
It's based on a true story, thestory of Barry Seale, an
American pilot who became a drugrunner for the CIA in the 1980s
in a clandestine operation thatwould be exposed as the
Iran-Contra affair andessentially, you know, colombian
cartel, essentially with heroinand drugs and stuff and it's

(01:56:50):
kind of the start before.
it's like things that happenedthat would have led up to this
movie essentially, um, and it'slike during the reagan
administration and you know youhave like the war on drugs
happening there and like there'sa lot of great things of like
because, you know, the presidentknew all this was happening.
I don't think it started duringhis presidency but, you know,
came into it, then he had allthe like anti-drug stuff and

(01:57:14):
then it turns out they'reletting it all in.
It's this it's Doug Liman whodirected Live, die Repeat.
He did it.
This is not, as it's, a moviethat got serious parts in it,
but it is kind of goofier.
How old is it?
I believe it's 2017, yeah, tomCruise is great in it.

(01:57:36):
It's a really fun movie.
so it might be like a great kindof you're talking about the
same thing, but it's a littlelighter until of course it gets
to the end and then it's like,oh, this shit was serious, guys,
and like all this goofy stuffhappened with this guy, but it
like really resonated on likeour country.
That's cool.
So it's a good movie.

(01:57:58):
I enjoyed it.
It's on AMC+ Plus Got it.
So yeah, baby, that's a car yo.
Thank you, dakota, for joiningus.
Thank you for having me.
I want everybody to go home.
If you're listening to this notat home, I don't know what the
hell I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
You listen while you're driving.
Go to your home.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
I want you to go on to Max and I want you to get
your little clicker thatcontrols your TV.
I want you to boot up Max andthen watch Final Destination,
because that's our next movie,baby yeah, and watch Final
Destination, because that's ournext movie.
Baby yeah, the FinalDestination Bloodlines trailer
rules it was great.
It made me super excited towatch Final Destination.
So that's what we're doing next.

(01:58:37):
It's a really fun movie.
Everybody loves these movies.

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
Oh yeah, it just makes you feel like you're going
to die everywhere you go.
It's like who knew that deathwas Rube Goldberg?
So entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:58:48):
Yeah, it's great.
I could just imagine like, likedirecting that film, like or
writing.
The film was like.
All right, let me look aroundmy house.
How would I die accidentallybecause it's they're so creative
, even the bad one oh no,actually the bad one, like
there's one destiny.
I think it's like the fourth orfifth one, dude, it's the 3d
one, it's so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:59:08):
I thought the third one was 3d as well.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
No, the third one was the interactive one.

Speaker 2 (01:59:12):
If you bought the dvd you could uh make the choices
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:59:16):
It's so cool I'd play , I'd.
I spent like a day doing that,um, and I love it.
The third one if you did clickthat they didn't get on the
roller coaster, the movie justends because the credits it's so
good, they just didn't have afun day.

Speaker 2 (01:59:29):
It has like the animal house.
Wow, it cuts the credits.
It's so good they just had adidn't have a fun day.
It has like the animal house.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
What they did afterwards.
Uh, it's so fun, um, but yeah,final destination, it's great,
um.
So join us next week for that.
Dakota probably won't be withus on that one, that's okay, um,
but yeah, thanks dakota forjoining.
Join us next week for that.
I'm just gonna keep saying thesame shit over and over and over
.
And if you'd like to contact us, I told you earlier that our
there's a link in thedescription where you can send

(01:59:54):
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It's very top the bottom,there's our email.
We recommend mail back atgmailcom.
Just say, like yo, what up,pimps?

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
I don't know.
Tell Jesse how much you hatehis haircut.
Sounds horrible.
Yeah, it affects my speaking, Iguess, and my lack of ability
to pronunciate yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
So I'd like to thank Joey Prosser for our intro and
outro.
You can find him on X at MrJoey Prosser, you should leave
us some good reviews and somecomments.
Like us, follow us, subscribeto us, stalk us.
Tell all your friends Don'tstalk us.
Stalk Jason, just not me.
But yeah us tell all yourfriends don't stalk us.
Stalk Jason, just not me.
But yeah, this has been the werecommend podcast.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason, I'mDakota.
You're asking me to tell youhow a podcast works.

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