Sinners

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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to the We Recommend Podcast, a
movie podcast where every weekwe recommend a movie for you to
watch, and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse.
I'm Jason.
I'm Devin.
I'm Dakota.
Blues wasn't forced on us likethe that religion.
Nah, son.
We brought that with us fromhome.
It's magic what we do.
It's sacred and big.

(00:20):
Because this week we recommendsinners.

SPEAKER_06 (00:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (00:30):
Let's go, baby.
Our first four-person podcast.
It's been two years in themaking since I had that
microphone.

SPEAKER_04 (00:38):
We did a four-person one before.
Foot passing?
No, we didn't.
Damn.
Did we not do Saw?

SPEAKER_02 (00:43):
We did three.
That was only the Saw 2 was onlythree.
Jason couldn't come.
That was supposed to be ourfirst one.
And then Hot Fuzz, Jason wasn'tthere again looking at you.

SPEAKER_04 (00:53):
I swear he was here because didn't you give him
didn't we both give him crapsaying, Did you watch the movie?
No.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01):
That was Devin and doing that to Jason.
And then we did it again whenyou got here on the seventh.

SPEAKER_05 (01:08):
We might have done it to him too.
It's my ADHD, man.
I get distracted easily.
We got a bird.
It's it's horrible.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19):
Confused looks all around.
All right, guys.
Sinners.
Did y'all like the movie?
If yes, why?
If no, get out.
Jason, let's start with you.
This is your first time watchingit, right?
Fully all the way through.

SPEAKER_05 (01:34):
Yeah, it kicks ass.
So much ass.

SPEAKER_02 (01:36):
It's so good.
It's uh, it's just wild.
I'm just so glad he stoppeddoing Marvel movies and was
like, I want to do a fullyoriginal movie.

SPEAKER_05 (01:44):
Yes.
Oh, you you think he did heredeemed himself from Wakanda
and Wakanda 2?

SPEAKER_02 (01:48):
Well, Wakanda forever.
Well, Black Panther was BlackPanther one was good.

SPEAKER_05 (01:52):
Yeah, they were good.
I liked I liked Black Panther.

SPEAKER_02 (01:55):
That's like in my top like five or six.
Um, Devin, what do you thinkabout Sinners?

SPEAKER_03 (01:59):
I love this movie.

SPEAKER_02 (02:00):
What is it about it that makes you like it?

SPEAKER_03 (02:01):
Uh the world, the characters, has horror, and it
feels like a full film.
Like it doesn't need a sequel.

SPEAKER_02 (02:08):
Like it's a complete and I was reading that's like
what he wanted to do for thismovie.
He's like, All right, I did allthese big franchises, and people
have been asking, like, are yougonna do a sequel with this, a
prequel or something?
And he's like, I just wanted tomake one movie that was like
fleshed out and all the waythrough.
Though I do think I want to theNative American vampire hunters.
Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:28):
It could do something with that.

SPEAKER_02 (02:29):
Let's get like a Native American director in
there and let's have him do aprequel to that would be cool.
That would be great.
Because when those guys showedup, I was like, dang, they're so
cool.
Yeah.
They made business.
They knew what they were doing.

SPEAKER_04 (02:40):
Well, you never see like the well, like the concepts
of everything like that are kindof different in there, like
Native American vampire hunters.
Like I just thought that wouldbe a really cool concept to see.

SPEAKER_02 (02:49):
Yeah.
I actually have a book, uh,audible book that I'm gonna
listen to eventually.
It's like Stephen Graham Jones,who's like a popular, he's like
a Native American and he makeslike Native American kind of
folklore horror books.
He did one called Only the GoodIndians, and it's like one of my
favorite books.
But now he's got one that's outand it's I think it's called The
Buffalo Hunter, and it's aboutYeah, we wanted to read that

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too.
It's about Native American likeuh vampire hunters, I think.
So it's gonna be I can't wait tolisten to it.

SPEAKER_05 (03:16):
Like if you um listen to Snap Judgment, I don't
know, but some of the NativeAmerican horror stories are the
most fucking crazy monstersyou've ever heard of.
Well, like Welcome to Dairy.
We all been watching that fireshow kicks ass.

SPEAKER_03 (03:35):
Dude, don't start.
Don't start.

SPEAKER_04 (03:37):
We're talking about we're on the opposite sides here
because well, I've only seen oneepisode still.

SPEAKER_05 (03:42):
So I'm I'm caught up and I'm not caught up, but I
love it.

SPEAKER_04 (03:45):
Um how many episodes have you watched?

SPEAKER_05 (03:47):
Uh three or four.

SPEAKER_04 (03:48):
Okay.
So number three didn't kill itfor you?

SPEAKER_03 (03:50):
No.
We're talking about a movie thatbrought us together.
Okay.
Right now we're so divided.
It's traditional.

SPEAKER_04 (03:58):
Speaking of uh Welcome to Dairy, that's like
also with uh Pet Cemetery, Ithink, is based off like Native
American stuff as well.

SPEAKER_05 (04:04):
Yeah, hell yeah.
They got some crazy shit goingon.

SPEAKER_02 (04:07):
Yeah, because there's nothing more scary
apparently than a NativeAmerican burial ground, you
know?

SPEAKER_05 (04:11):
That's why they smoked the peace pipe.
They got to.

SPEAKER_04 (04:13):
Well, you know, we decided to hide their history
for a long time.
So let's try and bring it back,you know, see what we murdered
away.
Yeah, and to bring it back tothe first question I asked,
Dakota, what is it about thismovie that you really liked?
Um well, alone with it is themusic.
Like I think I told you when welike this is a movie you have
to, like, I'm saying you havelike to really fully appreciate

(04:33):
it was that you know the onescene with the singing.

SPEAKER_02 (04:37):
I got you'll have to be more uh the big sendo of like
seeing the cast of stuff.
Almost every single song inthis, I get chills a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 (04:46):
Yeah, well, that one like in poor Robin clean.
It's the scene where he finallyPreacher Boy is singing.
No, I know that's easy.
Dude, like that was the firsttime I got hardcore chills, and
I was like, and it was in mybrain's like this, it was the
meme, absolute cinema.
Yeah, yeah.
It was so good, and it made merealize I was like, this is what
we don't really get anymore.

(05:06):
I guess it's the same thing Ikind of felt like Dune was one
of those movies, but I still saysinners evoked a more uh
emotional response.

SPEAKER_02 (05:16):
Yeah, this was the first time in a long time where
a movie had a scene where I wasjust like, I don't know.
It's like I kind of feeling itnow where I'm kind of getting
the chills a little bit, justthinking about it.
And I haven't had that in areally long time in a movie.
And there's also something inmovies that it's almost kind of
hard to explain where you justlike know something magical
happened.
It's almost, you know, inbringing up a Marvel movie.

(05:38):
Yay.
When Thanos snapped, there andit kind of goes uh very quiet
for a second, and there was kindof this weird feeling you had
inside.
I don't know if this was isalmost especially because of the
theater experience, everybodywas super quiet, and everybody's
like, wait, did anything happen?
And there's this quietness, andit just kind of invoked this
weird like something specialjust happened, and I don't know

(06:00):
what it is.
But like times 5,000 with thescene with Sinners and when
Pre-Trip Boy was singing, whereit's just like I'm experiencing
something I didn't expect to beexperiencing, and it's just like
this is why I like movies, thisis why I have a podcast about
movies, this is it, and I'm justso excited.

SPEAKER_05 (06:16):
It reminded me to love that scene from Black Snake
Mo, that blues scene wherethey're all right.

SPEAKER_02 (06:21):
It's been a while since I've seen that.
I should rewatch that.
The movie's wild.
I just remember when Harry has apanic attack at the end with uh
Justin Timberlake where the twosemi trucks are by the way.
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Just slow, just like chill out,guys.
Okay.
Well, I just thought I was gonnado it.
I do remember what you'retalking about.
Yeah, I need to rewatch that.
That movie is wild.

SPEAKER_04 (06:39):
Well, doesn't she like calm him down by like
lifting her shirt up and justlike putting hold of me on too?
I was like, come on, okay.

SPEAKER_05 (06:45):
Dakota, I need you.

unknown (06:48):
All right.

SPEAKER_04 (06:48):
Um I do I wonder if so my uh my girlfriend, she was
talking about it.
She was debating watching it.
I was like, look, it's kind of along movie, and I always think
this.
I was like, I feel like Sinnerscan be its own two movies.
The first half, they're settingeverything up in the juke joint,
and then I feel like it's youget the second part of a

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different movie the second thedude falls from the sky and runs
away.
It's like this is the new movie,and I just feel like if you
separated them and tried to makesomething you could out of their
own.

SPEAKER_02 (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, definitely before the vampires
show up, it could have just beenlike, hey, it's this these
African Americans trying to likeset up a juke joint in the
middle of uh Mississippi whereMother's glance.
Which I feel like that's been amovie that we've seen like a
bunch, right?
So then this is like a new spinon like, hey, black people
struggling in the south duringthe Jim Crow era.
And uh, but also they have toworry about freaking vampires.

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So, you know, so like so muchtension can be bought.
Um and it's like, you know, thevampires are cooler.
I really dislike the vampires.
Vampires freaking sick, theireyes glowing.
That was amazing.
Like when cornbread's out theretaking a leak and you have all
of the little fireflies, andthen all of a sudden, two little
eyes, and like, wait, thosearen't blinking.

SPEAKER_04 (08:01):
There's a vampire.
So good.
I love that design choice thatthey did for it, and so good to
watch.

SPEAKER_02 (08:05):
It kind of reminds me of Midnight Mass, where they
also had their glowing.
And is that like a thing invampire lore that they have
glowing eyes?

SPEAKER_04 (08:11):
Uh I don't think so.
I if it's what I so I saw onething, someone mentioned that
they should do that for Batman.
Give him glowing eyes to showthat he's a predator.
I think it's to show howpredators are when you see
light.
That might be theinterpretation.
Batman glowing eyes?
Yeah, like because he's in thedark and he's like a predator
hunting down the victim.
But he's trying to be stealthy.

(08:32):
Yeah, but it's also meant to bescary because you see it and
you're like, what the fuck isthat?

SPEAKER_02 (08:36):
That's true.
He is kind of adopting hiswhore, his uh uh what do you
scare.

SPEAKER_04 (08:40):
Well, he's supposed to like um well, he's supposed
to give them their fear, and healso is trying to invoke fear
because he always says thatGotham is a very superstitious
place.
So he's trying to make themscared of him through that.
Like he's a predator.
So I think that might be theinterpretation they're going
for, is that they're animals andthat you see their eyes, but his
eyes would glow if he when hegoes into detective mode.

SPEAKER_02 (09:02):
Well, it's supposed to, but we don't get that.
So uh Michael B.
Jordan, what did y'all thinkabout his career before Sinners?
And now that he's done Sinners,is this his best uh acting that
you've seen from him?

SPEAKER_03 (09:18):
Yeah, I think so.
I mean, it's hard to pull off,you know, twins and have their
own, you know, identitydifferent.

SPEAKER_02 (09:24):
And by the way, this movie is very special in terms
of how it's did the twins thing.
Uh, you know, a lot of timeswhen you have twins in movies,
they're always kind of likeseparated and they don't really
see them touch or anything.
It was a very big deal wheneverhe passed the cigarette to his
uh when Stax passed thecigarette to smoke because it's
like, oh shit, these two bodiesare in the same scene.
Yeah, it looks like Michael B.

(09:45):
Jordan's face on both of them,and wow.
Yeah, just well, because youknow, usually in those they kind
of have it where it's kind ofsplit and they added in uh him
acting on the other side.
But in this, they're two bodiesin the same role passing a
cigarette, and the face looksfantastic because it's just a
CGI face on them.

SPEAKER_04 (10:04):
Well, yeah, it's also better than all the other
D-aging stuff we've gotten fromDisney lately, too.
It's been had oh yeah, I meaneven the Stranger Things that
just did it.

SPEAKER_02 (10:11):
Oh yeah.
Oh, gotcha.
Um, yeah, so like Michael B.
Jordan, like before this, whatwas y'all's favorite role of
him?
He's so good at Killmonger.
Just whenever he killed Monger.

SPEAKER_04 (10:23):
I really loved him in that.

SPEAKER_02 (10:24):
That made me well it's Black Panther one, where
he's a villain.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
It's just his line at the end.

SPEAKER_04 (10:30):
Did you watch the movie?

SPEAKER_05 (10:31):
Yeah.
Oh, good.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (10:35):
Um I guess that made me appreciate him more.
I've always kind of liked him,but when that came out, just his
delivery and how he acted withit, like, especially his ending
quote in Black Panther.
He's like, my uh what was it, myancestry?

SPEAKER_02 (10:50):
I'd rather die than live a life in chains or
something like that.

SPEAKER_04 (10:53):
Like I said, like the ocean or whatever.
Stabbed me in the heart.
It was good.
And he just did a really goodjob of how he presented it, and
that made me appreciate it more.

SPEAKER_02 (11:03):
Also feel like he's always one of the coolest person
ever in a movie.
Anytime he shows, likeespecially in this, when he
shows up, like both as Smoke andStack, where Stack, he's kind of
almost got like this kind oflike an Italian gangster look,
and then Smoke, he's got more ofan Irish gangster look, which is
two uh gangs in Chicago at thetime, and you could tell, like,

(11:23):
really smart about this movie isthat like, oh, they're twins, so
they probably like, all right,I'll go talk to like the Irish
gangs, and then you go talk tolike the uh Italian gangs, and
that's how they're able to likesteal from him and rot from him.
And that's like but he justlooks so cool in those suits,
and then in kill when he'skillmonger, I'm just like,
golly, I wish I was cool.

SPEAKER_04 (11:44):
And I'm not well.
I think it also gives credit tohim.
Like an underdog or dodgeball.
Um the Creed movies, they'regood.
Like, you know, it's hard tocontinue a series after so many
years and make him good.

SPEAKER_02 (11:57):
His delivery and creed whenever he's like
imprisoned because he got in thefight, and then Sylvester
Stallone comes up to him andhe's just like, I don't want to
end up like my dad.
And then he's like crying.
I'm like, come here, I go beJordan.
I'll give you a hug, brother.
Cool.
So um this uh can I said that?
So if you had to pick a movie,Creed, Black Panther, or
Sinners, which one?

(12:18):
Sinners.

SPEAKER_04 (12:19):
Hell yeah.
Yeah, you can't like this.
I will I think after I watchedit, because you all you know, we
always say, like, what's yourtop five movies?
And this one is like hardcorenow, like immediately is like
this is the top five movie Iwould want.

SPEAKER_02 (12:34):
Yeah, because it's so good.
It's definitely my favoritemovie of the year so far.
I haven't seen one battle afteranother, which has been
considered the best movie of theyear, but I can't wait to watch
it.

SPEAKER_05 (12:42):
Yeah, I haven't seen it.
Watch that.
It's too nice.
What do you think about thevampire lore?
Like, they kind of seem like 28days later, vampires, but like
they kind of get up immediatelyand get up.
Like a lot of times, vampiresthey take a minute.
Like a slow transition.

SPEAKER_04 (12:58):
Well, like the ones where like you have to have
their blood, then it takes aday.
It makes me And then they'relike like got they're cold and
they're like sweats as they'redying.
I kind of love it.
It's it's quick, but it's alsoterrifying because it's like he
literally converted everybody.
It's like, how have vampires nottaking over?
Which makes me want to think oflike, have the Native Americans

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been stopping that?
Because it makes it seem morelike they're also a virus,
because it's kind of like zombiewhen you make it infect that
quickly, it makes it moreterrifying, in my opinion.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (13:28):
Fuck yeah, dude.
Uh completely blanked what I wasgonna say.

SPEAKER_01 (13:33):
Whoopsie.

SPEAKER_02 (13:34):
Um, so what do y'all look for in like vampire movies?
And this is is this y'all'sfavorite vampire movie?
I think it's between this andMidnight Mass for me.

SPEAKER_01 (13:44):
The TV show.
So Midnight Mass.

SPEAKER_04 (13:46):
It's really good.

SPEAKER_01 (13:47):
Um too hard of a question.
I can cut this out if we can'tthink about it.

SPEAKER_02 (13:57):
Also Noseratu, which was earlier this year, is one of
my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 (14:00):
I like Nosferatu, but it's not, it's not.
I watched that to enjoy it forthe cinematography.
It's also a slow movie.
Yeah.
Well.

SPEAKER_03 (14:09):
Sorry if it was too boring.
My favorite vampire movie isprobably Blade 2.
So have you ever liking that,have you ever watched The
Strain?
I I remember ways uh years backtrying to start it up never.

SPEAKER_04 (14:23):
I had the same issue trying to start it.
That first season is reallyslow.
After that, good.
Think of like it's the samedesign of like style of those
vampires with the way theirmouths open.
Same way for that in in there.
After season one, it finallykeeps going with them, and it's
good.
It was really good.
After I got past season one, itwas it's fully worth the watch.

SPEAKER_02 (14:42):
All products of Guaramel Del Toro that we're
talking about so far.
Yeah.
I like with Nosferatu.
I just like the I don't know,because it's uh directed by
what's his name, it's just Ilove, you know, the authenticity
of everything.
And it's great.
And we're also doing this thingin horror movies where there's a
lot of like convulsing.
If you think of uh first omen,and then like you got that first

(15:04):
omen was good, surprisingly.
What's her name in Nosferatu isjust like I thought it went a
little too long.
I like it because it's just likeit well, because if you're in
that situation where you arebeing like possessed or turning
or like you know, just actingcrazy, it's like you can't
control it, and there's a littlebit of fear for me, I guess, in
that.
Guess it's because my dog alsohas seizures and it freaks me
the fuck out.

(15:25):
So whenever I see that someonein a movie, I'm kind of like
just pet them.
They might get better.

SPEAKER_04 (15:31):
So obviously, we know the best vampire
interpretation is Twilight.

SPEAKER_05 (15:35):
So those sparkly vampire spirit.
Um those movies are so good.

SPEAKER_04 (15:41):
I guess I gotta say, like, this is a pretty good
vampire movie because I feellike it goes into like an open
interpretation a little bit,because they don't explain it,
and you just kind of left toassume.
And when they lean more intolike when his fingers get super
long uh towards the end whenhe's going for Preacher Boy, and
like his face shows more of theanimalistic side.
I'm like, when you because youknow sometimes they're just with

(16:04):
the teeth, yeah, and other timestheir full vampire form is like
the creature form.
I like that kind ofinterpretation.
Like when it's like they're kindof wearing their human skin as a
mask.

SPEAKER_05 (16:14):
He's also like the ancient vampire.

SPEAKER_02 (16:16):
Yeah, because he's like before Christianity is when
he was from, I just so good.
Um, what do y'all how do y'allfeel about like the hive minds
aspect of him being a vampire?
I know, you know, because wewill play a lot of video games,
there's a lot of hive mind stuffthat we see, you know, like Halo
with the flood and things likethat.
Uh, y'all like the hive mindidea, even though they're not

(16:37):
fully, you know, like they don'tdie if he dies, but like
everybody got hive mind stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (16:42):
Yeah.
Um that was my big complaintabout Stranger Sent things
season two.
Um, the little dog ones.

SPEAKER_02 (16:48):
Yeah.
And I'm like I don't evenremember them.
I don't remember seeing exactlya little baby.

SPEAKER_04 (16:52):
Yeah, once the upside down got closed off or
whatever, they all just died.
And I'm like, that didn't workon the that didn't happen with
the Demic organ.
These things are that.
I don't mind Hive Mind stuff.
I just don't like it's the samething that happened in Avengers
when they blew up uh the bigthing uh the ship and it stopped
all the soldiers.
Like, that doesn't make anysense.

SPEAKER_03 (17:12):
Yeah, it's kind of a cop-out.

SPEAKER_04 (17:14):
Yeah, I don't mind the Hive Mind when they're just
connected because they kind ofdid the same thing in like uh
Independence Day.
A little bit, yeah.
But I was gonna say true blood,because we kind of started that
back up recently.
Um when you change someone whenyou change someone, they're like
connected and they kind of havea little bit of control.
It's like a weird, like I madeyou type of thing.

(17:36):
And they say like they wouldliterally say, I release you of
my control, and you can see themkind of like shimmer.
It's like a weird bondingconnection.
So it leads more to supernaturalconnection, I kind of like.
Damn, like marriage, am I right,but guys?

SPEAKER_02 (17:50):
No, I'll cut that.
Ryan Kugler had twins from hisfamily help with the twin stuff.
So Ryan Kugler, who comes from afamily with many sets of twins
and has close friends fromOakland, Logan and Noah Miller,
who are twins themselves.
He brought them on asconsultants for the film,
sitting down with them todiscuss their experiences and
using their feedback to adjustthe blocking and script.

(18:10):
In a Breakfast Club interview.
Is that with Charlemagne?

SPEAKER_00 (18:14):
Is that Breakfast Club?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (18:15):
Yeah.
Um Kugler recalled asking Loganand Noah why they always sat
next to each other.
Was it for his sake or theirs?
Turns out they were trying tosue the Black Panther director.
Apparently, people get freakedout seeing twins seeing them
apart in the same room.
Um, and Kugler incorporated thisinsight into the film in the
scene where the twins meetHogwood to buy this sawmill and

(18:35):
slaughterhouse.
While one twin talks, the othersneaks up behind Hogwood with a
bag of money to scare them.
Have y'all ever been near likeidentical twins?
No.
Yeah.
I never thought of the idea oflike, oh yeah, where's the
fucking other one at?

SPEAKER_05 (18:48):
Luckily, the the twins on my soccer team in high
school they had severelydifferent haircuts.
So it's so easy to do.

SPEAKER_02 (18:56):
Now, is it one of those twin things where they
like kind of said the samethings and stuff?

SPEAKER_05 (19:00):
No, they were totally different.
One was like super um straight,and the other one wasn't.
It was obvious.

SPEAKER_02 (19:10):
It was so obvious.
Hell of a way to say it.
One was super straight.
The other one just wasn't.

SPEAKER_04 (19:22):
So me and my girlfriend were watching our
junk TV, like 90-day fiance, oneof them.
Oh, and there were two sisterson there, and we were watching
it, and then it's like, yeah, mytwin sister, and we both looked
at each other like, they'refucking twins.
They both have had plasticsurgery.
Oh and not like I don't I sayplastic surgery, but I forget
like in my brain, I don't thinkof like Botox and stuff.

(19:44):
Yeah.
But yeah, we did not know theywere twins, and they were
driving in the car, likesitting.
It's like maybe we'll notice itmore.
One had like shorter hair, onehad like long hair, faces aren't
moving.
Literally, they're making ajoke.
She's like, Yeah, they ruined myBotox.
She's like, Okay, frown rightnow.
Okay, raise your eyebrows.
She says, I I am.
She's like, and I'm like, it waslike they look nothing like
twins.

SPEAKER_02 (20:05):
It's ridiculous.
So uh in Delroy Lindo's sceneceiling uh performance as the
liquor-loving bluesman DeltaSlim teaches Sammy how to
conjure the blues through pain,memory, and spirit.
On the road to the joint jukejoint, Stack drives past the
chain gang and Delta calls outto them, telling them to keep
their heads up.
He then reveals to Stack andSammy about like, you know, his

(20:25):
whole story with the rice.
Um, and so when it got to theend of that sh uh end of that
scene where he starts like andthen kind of humming the blues,
completely improved.
He wasn't supposed to do that.
He's just supposed to say, butit's wild to me because it's I
feel like that whole scene andstory is almost like the whole
point of the movie.

SPEAKER_06 (20:43):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (20:44):
Of why, you know, like this is for them.
You can't play the blues if youdon't understand the pain and
that well, that's always whatblues is.

SPEAKER_04 (20:52):
That's why he laughed at him.
He's like, what do you knowabout the blues boy?
Because he was so young.
He's like, You have you have youreally gone through it?
Um, what else has that actorbeen in?
I can't I feel like I'm drawn.
I was like, I watched it againlast night.
It's like I meant to look up tosee why he seems so familiar.

SPEAKER_03 (21:07):
Uh the one, I think, with Jet Lee.
Oh.
That's what I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_04 (21:11):
Oh man, I actually need to go back and watch both
of those.

SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
Yeah, he's in Get Shorty, the core.

SPEAKER_02 (21:15):
Yeah, he kicks uh Defy Bloods, which is um what's
his name?
Yeah.
He's in Point Break, the remake.
No one will ever watch that.
Um Point Break comes back inagain.
I will side.
Where's the dogs?
He was also great as like themain comedic relief guy.

SPEAKER_04 (21:33):
He uh Well, he did a good job because he's main
comedic relief, but I feel likehe played up the drunkard well.
Like you could seem like he'syeah.
His life of like it's like youlaugh through the pain, and
that's how you deal, and that'show I could feel it through him.
Everyone's like story and likehow they talk about it, it felt
emotional.

(21:54):
I think that's why I connectedwith it more.
Everything felt genuine and youcould feel for him.
Y'all smell that?
I think I shat myself.

SPEAKER_06 (22:04):
That was a life.

SPEAKER_02 (22:06):
Gotcha.
So uh director Ryan Klugler sayshe had the American heavy metal
band Metallica on his mind whenhe was laying out the story's
rhythm and beats.
He says, I wanted the movie tohave the simplicity and
simultaneously the profoundnature of a Delta Blues song,
but I wanted it to have thecontrast, variation, and
inevitability of a greatMetallica song.
Like one, he says, one is thesignature song from the band's

(22:29):
1988 album and Justice for All.
It starts off with almost likean easy listening solo, you know
what I'm saying.
And then it just goes batshitinsane in a way you could never
sing coming.
And at the same time, it feltlike it was going there all
along, Cooler says.
The movie's basically that uhLars Ulrich, the drummer for and
one of the founding members ofMetallica, is credited as one of

(22:51):
the drummers in the moviescoring orchestra.
And yeah, it's like kind of thewhole setup movie where it's
like, hey, we're just watching amovie, right?
Just a movie and the vapirs.
Y'all know what I mean.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (23:04):
I feel like well now I feel silly.
Everybody's looking at me.
Because re-watching it, it waslike when uh rewatched uh
Weapons with Shane recently.
Oh my.
Don't start this.
Just continue.

SPEAKER_02 (23:17):
There's a lot of stress in this room because of
everybody's feelings about thatmovie.

SPEAKER_04 (23:22):
Um well, watching it, because every time I rewatch
a movie, it's like uh somethingto appreciate more.
And the third time watching it,I really got to understand the
um soundtrack and how much itreally affected it.
And I think that happened thistime with um centers and getting
to just appreciate how thesoundtrack really affected it.
I feel like those are the twomovies that really invoke strong

(23:42):
emotions for me this year wasbecause I just feel like the
score was just top notch.

SPEAKER_02 (23:47):
Yeah.
It's great.
I mean, especially the score inthis, where it's just kind of
especially the whole beginningis very like, you know, that
same kind of score over and overand over.
And it's just like, yeah, we'rejust kind of going.
We're kind of going.
Let's go.
We just gotta get to this jukepoint.
And it kind of builds attentionbecause you're like, you meet
Hogwood, and it's like, oh no,we definitely know this guy's
gonna come back later and try tokill everybody.

SPEAKER_05 (24:09):
His name is Hogwood.
Yeah, yeah.
Like Boss Hog.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (24:13):
I don't know how I missed it in the first one or
the first time I watched it,when he showed up and he said,
There's no clan members here.
I was like, I I guess it's likeI also noticed some more of like
the way they acted and likefacial expressions I picked up.
I don't know if I was just notpaying attention.
When he said it, I felt like hewas like, Oh yeah, there's no

(24:33):
clan members.
Oh, you believed him.
Well, I thought he thought that.
And I I knew that we knewbetter.
Hell yeah.
I didn't think he was just like,oh, it's not.
He's like, I'm trying to bebetter, but I'm still bad.
And then when I rewatched it andI saw his expression and stuff,
I was like, fuck yeah, he's he'slying.

SPEAKER_02 (24:47):
Well, as soon as they said, Hey, what's this?
Do you clean these floors?
What is this on the floor?
I was like, okay, so they'redefinitely this is definitely a
place where they're just like,Yes, here you go, black man, buy
this place.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Well, I didn't see it.
I thought it as like, I think Isaw not the first time they've
done this to people.

SPEAKER_04 (25:03):
No, I saw it as more of like, yeah, he would do
something and didn't care, but Isaw money, greed being the
override for his racism.
So I thought, greed overrides myracism, I'll take the money and
see it.

SPEAKER_02 (25:15):
But in his eyes, he's like, I could take the
money and then kill them.

SPEAKER_03 (25:18):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
Classic bad guy shit.
So it's uh particularlysignificant that Rimick is
introduced fleeing from Choctawhunters.
Not only is the movie set in thehistoric Choctaw homeland, there
is a long history of cooperationbetween the Choctaw and Native
American more broadly and theIrish.
The Irish Potato Famine occurred16 years after the Choctaw,

(25:40):
Cherokee, Muskogee, Seminole,and Chickasaw peoples were
forced to walk the trail oftears, knowing tragedy and
hunger themselves, Choctaw andCherokee survivors donated
hundreds of dollars to supportfamine relief.
In 2017, Ireland erected theKindred Spirit Sculpture in
acknowledgement of friendshipbetween two peoples with a
companion sculpture sculpturecalled Eternal Heart installed

(26:04):
on Choctaw land in 2024 when thecoronavirus pandemic began in
2020, and the Navajo and HoppyHopi nations were hit especially
hard.
Ireland sent a$2 milliondonation, uh accrediting it to
Choctaw kindness in their timeof need.
Director Ryan Kugler wasimpressed.
Oh, uh, that was it for that.

(26:25):
But uh That's a really cool Iwas wondering, okay.
Because I remember reading.
I've never had someone nail aparagraph more than I just
nailed that paragraph.
Shit sounded stressful.
Yeah.
It's kind of hard with like themicrophone kind of blocking my
screen a little bit.
And then like that coffee isreally starting to put me in
overdrive.
Too fast, too furious over here.
Know what I mean?

(26:47):
Um yeah, so uh director RyanKugler was impressed by Miles
Canton's Preacher Boys auditiontape from the very beginning.
He was just in a dark, like uhhe was just in the dark, like he
didn't turn the lights on.
Kugler said something about thatwas like so intriguing.
The kid looked like he was inthe basement, like in between
homework assignments, but he hadthis voice of a lifetime.

(27:11):
I'm like destroying everythingI'm reading right now.
Doing good.

SPEAKER_04 (27:13):
Um drink some water, you need to sound like your
mouth dry.
Your mouth is dry.
I'll I'll go for you.

SPEAKER_02 (27:19):
Need some drool from a vampire.
So gross.
I was like, that is the grossestthing ever.
If I ever saw someone droolingthat much, I'd be like, get out.

SPEAKER_03 (27:25):
Yeah, get off, get off me.

SPEAKER_04 (27:27):
My girlfriend was like, You didn't tell me Haley
Steinfeld was in it, and Iimmediately went had a stank
face.
She's like, What?
And I was like, Do you just no?

SPEAKER_02 (27:34):
Do you guys think like after uh Josh Allen and
Haley Steinfeld went to thepremiere of this movie, he was
like, I have to fucking win theSuper Bowl now.
I have to win it.
I mean, it's just like if youwere on the other team, you'd
just be like you know they'retalking mad.
Yeah, I mean every why would younot?
Every sack on Josh Allen, he'slike, I saw sinners.

(27:54):
That's how I would be at least.
Um, all right, and one morething.
Well, two more things realquick.
So in April 2025 interview withTonya Mosley on the national
public radio program, Fresh Air,director Ryan Kugler said that
he first became aware of thelong history of Chinese
Americans in the MississippiDelta about a decade decade,
decade prior when he and hisfamily all did some home DNA

(28:16):
tests, and his father-in-law,who considers himself African
American, unexpectedly had alarge percentage of Han Chinese
DNA.
You know, this uh Kugler says,you know, this man in his 90s,
he opened that packet up andsaid, like, what the you know
what I mean?
And where is he from?
He was born in Chicago.
Where were his parents fromMississippi?
So we start digging, and youknow what I'm saying?

(28:37):
We and we find out that, youknow, my wife's black dad comes
from these people.
The the erasure, you know, theywere there.
Huh?
Like the Chinese people werethere, like in uh Mississippi
and stuff like that.
Yeah, it's very because it waslike a stream of consciousness
in the interview, and I was justreading.

SPEAKER_05 (28:55):
That's really cool.

SPEAKER_04 (28:56):
Oh, that just m made me think about around that time
because there was a mass liketype of immigration at the time.
I wonder what was causing themto immigrate.
I wonder what's happening inthere.

SPEAKER_05 (29:05):
The the railroad.

SPEAKER_04 (29:07):
No, for the Asians.

SPEAKER_05 (29:08):
Like the railroad.

SPEAKER_04 (29:09):
What do you mean?

SPEAKER_05 (29:11):
A lot of Asians were immigrated to build railroads.

SPEAKER_04 (29:15):
They kind of like knew what they were doing and
they so they just brought themover because they had a chance
to make more money, or is itjust like a new opportunity type
of land of America?

SPEAKER_05 (29:23):
Yeah, too, and they really liked opium.
Ah.

SPEAKER_02 (29:27):
Same.
So uh director Ryan Kugler saidthat the two biggest influences
for the film were from Dust TillDawn and the faculty, both uh
Robert Rodriguez.
Really?
Yeah, because you know, like,are they or aren't they a
vampire?
That situation, which I have tosay, one of my favorite scenes
in this whole movie, and itwasn't until I watched it the

(29:48):
second and third time, is whenthey're all congregating at the
door.
Like at first, it's Bo Chow thatcomes there, and then he's like,
Hey, look, come on, babe, let'sgo.
As like the cornbreads, justlike and then you have Remick
come up, and then kind ofeverybody's coming up, and
they're all just like havingthis debate back and forth.
I was like, this is one of myfavorite like written scenes of

(30:09):
the entire year.
And it wasn't until because youknow, with the first time you
watch it, it's all the bigbombaskets, basket bombasket,
bombasket scenes.
Like bomb basket.
Bomb basket.
That scene was wood bomb basket.
Um, but yeah, it's just likethat whole time because
especially last night, I wasre-watching it and I was just

(30:30):
like, Jesus Christ, this is sogood.

SPEAKER_00 (30:32):
Yeah, good movie.

SPEAKER_02 (30:33):
So good.
Well, guys, y'all have anythingelse to add?
Um be plenty to add as we gothrough the movie.

SPEAKER_05 (30:40):
We'll just make sure to interrupt you on the way.

unknown (30:42):
Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_02 (30:43):
Um so before we get into the plot of the movie, I
would like everyone to think,what is the point of sinners?
And if you at home have uhsomething to say about the
point, go into our link in thedescription at the top.
You can click it and then textus like, hey, Jesse, this is the
point.
Or you can go to the down to thevery bottom of the description

(31:04):
where our email is atwerecommellbag at gmail.com and
send us that way as well.
So let's get into 2025'scenters.

SPEAKER_04 (31:13):
Um I'm also a little curious.

SPEAKER_02 (31:15):
Just as we go through it, damn didn't even get
like a sentence of the plot.
That's what he does.
What he does.

SPEAKER_04 (31:24):
No, no, I'm just as we go through the story.
I'd like because it could all bethe same, but usually like when
the when we're talking about acertain scene, I'm interested in
like seeing if you guys havedifferent perspectives.
So it'd be interesting, oh, thiswas my favorite scene.
And just explaining why.
Because we could have differentviews.
I already said what mine was,but I'd like to say like what my
second one later is as it comesup.

SPEAKER_02 (31:45):
Yeah.
So the film starts with anarration about how some music
is said to be so powerful it canconjure spirits from the past
and the future.
However, it is also possible toattract evil with this power in
ancient Ireland.
They were called Philly, inChoctaw Land, they were called
the Fire Keepers, and in WestAfrica they are called Creotes.

(32:06):
Nailed it, felt uncomfortablesaying it.
But then I said it and I waslike, that's how they said it in
the movie.
So I nailed it.
So we are in Clarksdale,Mississippi, October 16th, 1932.
Sammy Moore, or preacher boy, uhdrives to a church looking
beaten and with claw marks onhis face while holding a broken
guitar neck.
He enters the church where hisfather, a pastor named Jedediah,

(32:28):
uh tries to help his son andtell him to give up music and
repent his sinful ways.
Sammy just clutches onto theguitar neck.
Ironic since he walked in onthem singing.
Um yeah, it's ironic that he'slike, give up your guitar and
your evil ways, and it's like hecomes in and they're all
singing.
It's like all this singing here.
It's all music.

(32:54):
Yeah.
And uh I love this part whenhe's walking in, and whenever
the his father says Sammy and itcuts the ring, Sammy!

SPEAKER_06 (33:02):
Which by the way, it's so fucking says Sammy.
Sammy!

SPEAKER_04 (33:07):
It's so good.
Did he get did he do thatbecause of taking sta um
steroids?
I don't know.
Of taking uh God always gettingconfused.
Is it smoke or stack who gotturned?
Uh stack.
Was that blue hat is smoke, redhat is stack?
So um was it because of Ithought that's how he would be

(33:30):
like, Sammy.
I thought it was because afterhe took uh I already forgot the
names.
Anyway, Michael B.
Jordan's character.

SPEAKER_01 (33:38):
Smoke and Zack.

SPEAKER_04 (33:39):
Yeah, took stack.

SPEAKER_03 (33:41):
Whatever.
Did you watch you watched it,right?
Yes, I was just like three bowlsdeep.
So I was also I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (33:49):
I think it was it could have been that, or is this
like his so his excitement toget his music?

SPEAKER_04 (33:53):
Well, I couldn't remember, and I was like, wait,
did I miss that Michael B.
Jordan's like when he would meethim, he'd be like, Sammy, kind
of like that.
And he was justover-exaggerating it because you
know when he's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 (34:01):
I don't think he ever really said Sammy.
That's what I was trying toconfirm.
Yeah.
Um Yeah, so we're one dayearlier, Sammy is picking cotton
over there.
And someone asks where he'splaying music tonight, but he
doesn't answer.
He goes home to a house full offamily.
He looks for his guitar, but hedoesn't find it.
Um, then we meet Sammy'scousins, twin brother Elijah and
Elias Moore, aka smoking stack,um, are returning home to

(34:25):
Clarksdale from their time inChicago.
The twins have stolen money fromgangsters, implied to be
Alcampone and whatever othergangsters, and have purchased an
old sawmill from a supposedlyformer clansman, clansman.
Clansman?

SPEAKER_03 (34:40):
He's a real clansman on the grow on as Klansman.
Um Hogwood.

SPEAKER_02 (34:45):
They have plans to turn into a juke joint to
attract members of the blackcommunity.
You twins, nah, we're cousins.
That love is like differentstyles of uh acting.

SPEAKER_05 (34:56):
Should every pair of twins have a cool name?
I think so.
I think so, yeah.
They should.

SPEAKER_02 (35:01):
We never know how they got the names.
Um, so and then uh you got theline, shit, clan don't exist no
more.
Right?
Yeah, and then what was on thesefloors?
It's just like, ah, somethingbad's gonna happen.
Um, but yeah, like we saidearlier, when the when you have,
I think it's stack walkingtowards him and then smoke comes
around to his back.

(35:21):
So great.
And then all the tensionsrelieved when a person sees a
bag full of money.
Yay.
So Sammy goes to his father, whois a preacher.
He has his guitar.
Uh, his father asks to help himgive a sermon tomorrow.
He makes him read a verse.
No temptation has overtaken youexcept what is common to
mankind, and God is faithful, hewill not let you be tempted

(35:42):
beyond what you can hear.
Uh bear.
Uh but when you are tempted, hewill also provide a way out so
that you can endure it.
Sammy stops uh reading and sayshe has to go and play music.
His father disapproves becausethat would make him a sinner.
Roll credits.

SPEAKER_05 (35:59):
Dang, guitars are so sinful.

SPEAKER_04 (36:01):
Well, it's the because they always there's the
blues is apparently associatedwith the devil, right?

SPEAKER_05 (36:07):
Yeah, sex, drugs, rock, roll of rock culture.

SPEAKER_02 (36:09):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's like the same thing where
like, oh, don't listen to Elvis,he's the devil, and things like
that.
Where it's like if you're notplaying the most boring
cookie-cutter music, you're asinner.
And he's also playing it forpeople drinking and like
grinding on each other whiledancing and stuff like that, you
know, having fun, which you'renot allowed to do.
Um, and then like the scene endswith you keep dancing with the

(36:31):
devil, one day he will followyou home.
Can't wait to the ending scenewhere Delta Blue, uh Delta
Slim's like, Don't worry, I'vehad the the devil's been biting
me everywhere.
Don't worry.
So uh smoking sack show to pickhim up.
Sammy asks questions aboutChicago.

(36:52):
He asks if black people canreally walk around freely
without danger.
The twins tell him not tobelieve everything you hear.
Chicago isn't nothing butMississippi with tall buildings.

SPEAKER_04 (37:02):
With all crazy lines.
Love it.

SPEAKER_03 (37:04):
I like it because it also I mean it's up north.
I mean, it wouldn't be I don'tthink it'd be as bad.
No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 (37:12):
You're not like when I rewatched it and listened to
that scene, it drops on thepoint of just because um that
they are not discriminatedagainst, that doesn't mean
anything.
The people who just becausesomeone in power power saw that
the people were like thatdoesn't mean everyone in that
city agrees.
You still have your you're gonnahave everyone, it takes people a

(37:33):
long time to acclimate to thenew world.

SPEAKER_05 (37:38):
I mean the Italians.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 (37:44):
Mia don't like the black people.

SPEAKER_04 (38:01):
I looked at everybody else like should I do
vision and I wish you couldhatch face that one with that
because look I'm embarrassedover here.

SPEAKER_02 (38:15):
Trying to cut it out.

SPEAKER_01 (38:17):
It's a media Mario.

SPEAKER_02 (38:20):
So they uh take Sammy to retrieve a truck full
of supplies that they have uhhave for their juke joint.
They uh started left oh, there'salso like a snake there.
Um do they put that snake thereas protection, or did that snake
like end up in that back oftheir truck?

SPEAKER_04 (38:33):
It's a snake.
They find dark uh.

SPEAKER_02 (38:35):
Well, it seemed like it'd be like great if like
someone's gonna try to comesteal it, and then then all of a
sudden they like try to takestuff up and there's like a
rattlesnake in there.
It almost seemed like I waslike, hey, that's a good kind of
protection.

SPEAKER_03 (38:43):
It looks like it caught them off guard, so I
don't think he put it.

SPEAKER_02 (38:46):
But man, what he like tosses on that knife and
I'm like, that's what twins do.
Um they're kind of smoke andstack are kind of debating on
whether or not they should havethe grand opening tonight
because Hogwood showed up late,and so now they're like, oh,
we're kind of on a time crunch.
Um, but Smoke's like, we shouldnot do it, we should wait a
week, and Stack says like, no,we're doing it now, because

(39:08):
Smoke's kind of the more um uhcool headed of them, and Stack's
more of the like, let's go anddo it now.

SPEAKER_04 (39:16):
I think you see the uh war that they talk about
really affected um him morebecause he's more of the soldier
type of person.

SPEAKER_02 (39:22):
Yeah.
I feel like they're both inWorld War II.
Yeah.
Um, and so they're gonna have toto get ready for the night,
they're gonna have to split up.
So uh Sammy and Sack head offtogether as Smoke sets off for
the truck.
Smoke goes into town to get helpfrom old friends, Grace and Bo
Chow.
Uh they're gonna get catfish andhelp create a sign to provide

(39:43):
other things for opening nightwhen he catches.
Um, and when he pulls in, he hashe gets like that one girl.
It's like, hey, I'm smoke, andshe's like, I'm scared now.
But then it's like, hey, I'mactually gonna put some money in
your pocket.
And then it has like this wholenegotiation scene where he's
like, I'll give you like 10cents.
And then he's like, Whoa, don'taccept that.
We're going to negotiate.
I like that scene.
It's a good way to negotiate.

(40:03):
Yeah.
It's also giving like a lot ofum you know character
development for smoke and reallybecause like when they split up,
I think this uh a good point forit is to be like, hey, we're
gonna show you the differencesbetween smoke and sag throughout
the film.

SPEAKER_05 (40:17):
If you all ever talk before, it's so fun.
I haven't.
It seems like I can't do that.
I can't do that.

SPEAKER_04 (40:22):
It's so fun.
No.

SPEAKER_05 (40:24):
I only did it like once.

SPEAKER_04 (40:25):
It was great.
I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_05 (40:27):
Did it work?
Yes.
Wow.
I brought down the price of awatch.
I was in Afghanistan and hewanted like$40 for his piece of
shit watch.
And I was like, I'll give youfive dollars for that.
He's like, he wanted 40, he'slike 10.
I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_04 (40:44):
Well, I realized I'm gonna take you with me to
Pokemon Con so you can handlesome Pokemon cards for me.

SPEAKER_05 (40:50):
I don't know anything about Pokemon.
Okay, just get the price lower.
That's all I care about.

SPEAKER_02 (40:54):
He just wants you to handle the stressful situation
for him.
I couldn't haggle either.
I'd just be like, I am going toshut down.
So while he's in the store, umuh the girl that he has watching
the truck starts honking thehorn, he comes out, shoots one
guy right in the butt off.
Yeah, butt shot.
Um and they're like, becausethey're trying to rub his uh
truck that's full of alcohol,smokes, and oh, was this during

(41:16):
the uh prohibition too?

SPEAKER_04 (41:19):
Uh I believe so.
Yeah, because uh they mentionedAl Capone.
I think that was around the timeof prohibition.
Yeah, because that's what AlCapone are going on at this
time.

SPEAKER_02 (41:27):
Do y'all know that like Prohibition was set up uh
by it was mainly set up by likeChristian women who were just
kind of tired of getting beatenby their drunk husbands?
Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (41:35):
Oh, so somewhat of a valid uh reason.
Well that's valid.
Yes, totally valid.

SPEAKER_02 (41:39):
That's kind of why how the movement started.
Uh, I was listening to lastpodcast.

SPEAKER_05 (41:44):
Feel bad.

SPEAKER_02 (41:45):
Yeah.
And they were like, it was likelater on, they're like, you know
what?
These women need to be beat somemore.
Give them in alcohol.

SPEAKER_05 (41:54):
Can we just drink and not beat our women?

SPEAKER_04 (41:56):
No.
Well, I guess we can't make itlegal.
We'll do what we want.

SPEAKER_02 (42:01):
Um, but yeah, he shoots one in the butt, one in
the leg.
Because to prove that he meansbusiness, because you can't
distill from the smoking sackpoints.

SPEAKER_04 (42:08):
I love how, like, I'm I I like that how his
reasoning for it, but shootingone guy in the ass and shooting
the other one, I swear he shothim in the kneecap.
I was like, that guy ain't gonnabe able to walk anymore.
Like he was just he did catch aleg shot.
Yeah, I swear he's gonna have alimp for the rest of his life.

SPEAKER_05 (42:26):
It's already hard enough.

SPEAKER_04 (42:27):
And you decide to like the other guy might just
have a little limp because ofhis butt, but that guy, you
can't repair it.

SPEAKER_03 (42:33):
No, but he did.
Didn't he like pay Mrs.
Child to like two of the things?
Yeah, how good is the it's gonnabe all the but he didn't just
leave the scene in that.

SPEAKER_04 (42:40):
All it's gonna do is remove the bullet, then you're
left at a heel on the catdoesn't reheal back.

SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
He tried to do something.

SPEAKER_04 (42:45):
He did, but I was like, he could have aimed like
in the shoulder.

SPEAKER_03 (42:54):
He's got a ripple.

SPEAKER_04 (42:56):
He should have told him to turn around and then shot
him in the skip the You're justmaking it sound like he just
dropped civilians.

SPEAKER_03 (43:02):
I mean, they were civilians.
They were robbing them.
Innocent civilians wrong.
I'm just saying more of us.

SPEAKER_05 (43:09):
Just leave it there.
He's talking for the meatiestpart.
It's the ass.
Except for the knee.
Not much meat there.

SPEAKER_01 (43:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (43:20):
I know.

SPEAKER_02 (43:20):
It's wild west times, baby.
We had her shooting in thestreets and no cops being
called.
Hell yeah.
Um, also, one of my favoriteshots in the whole movie is
whenever he's uh little Lisa,they tell him it's like, hey, go
get your mom, and then she walksacross, and then we see like,
because at this point we onlyseen like the black side of the
street, and so it just seemslike a little black community,
and then you walk across thestreet, and then you see, like,

(43:42):
oh, this is the white side ofpart of town.
Apparently, historically, thisis an accurate representation of
towns like this.

SPEAKER_06 (43:48):
No way.

SPEAKER_02 (43:48):
Yeah.
And um also when you go in, youum I had watched it with the
captions on, so it's easier totake notes like that.
You hear all the littlebackground characters saying
like all the like the typicalracist things that we still hear
tonight.
It's like I don't mind blackpeople, but you know, they just
get always getting into troubleand stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 (44:05):
What do you mean, racism doesn't exist anymore?

SPEAKER_02 (44:08):
What are you laughing at?

SPEAKER_03 (44:10):
Everything right there.
This little black side and thenthis white side.
I'm just like you on.

SPEAKER_04 (44:19):
What are you talking about?
I don't know, but what aboutthat tiny quote you just did,
man?
I was doing a character.
Uh stereotypical character.
Keep it off.
Anyone else want to read thenext one?

SPEAKER_05 (44:32):
And when he says keep it on, I'm talking about
his white hoodie as on the top.
Pull back the hoodie.
Could you just squirm a littlebit more of it?
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (44:40):
I'm already at like I'm in a tiny ass little chair.
I'm already like intimidated,everybody being a buggy.
Come on, come on, because I'mI'm sitting in a beach chair
that's like almost practicallyon the ground whether sitting in
a normal chair.
He does this every time.

SPEAKER_03 (44:54):
Yeah, no, it's like a chair every time he's hosted.
So he sits in that one.

SPEAKER_02 (44:58):
Well, it's so well I guess like now that I brought
that one out since the last timeyou were here, I've been sitting
in that chair and Dakota andJason would be over there, or
I'd be in that chair and Jason'sover there.
Nobody at home cares about this.

SPEAKER_04 (45:10):
So um giving him the mental image in their head.

SPEAKER_02 (45:13):
And then also uh Grace Chow comes back over and
then Smoke uh starts negotiatingwith her, and it's really fun.
And throws in and he also buyssome flowers.
All right, so meanwhile, Stackteaches Sammy about oral sex.
Nice because this hoodie is alsokind of sexy.
It is sexy.
Yeah, yeah.

(45:34):
So uh Sammy's also an aspiringblues musician, which we already
know by now.

SPEAKER_05 (45:37):
And his guitar kicks ass too.
I love it.

SPEAKER_02 (45:40):
Yeah, and it's great.
Um, and we'll get more into thatguitar a little bit later.
So Stack tells him about theirdad.
Smoke killed their dad becausehe beat them as kids, but he
didn't mean it, he says.
He's like, I love it because youhave the whole conversation, and
he's like, Hey, did you uh didy'all actually really kill your
dad?
And he's like, Well, I didn'tbecause he knocked me out
unconscious, and when I woke up,Smoke was already burying him.

(46:02):
Nice.
And then he's like, Yeah, hebeat us a lot, but he didn't
mean it.

SPEAKER_05 (46:05):
And I was like, Yeah, he just twirled his fist
around everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 (46:09):
It's one of those of like, so I don't like I
understand.

SPEAKER_02 (46:13):
I think he's kind of saying that he's he was drunk.
Yeah, he understands likeeverybody at this point was
probably just drinking a lot andthen getting mad and hitting
people.

SPEAKER_04 (46:20):
You know, life is hard already in that time, and
then add in the drinking thattakes away your inhibitions, you
start to see anger.
Like I had a sole co-workco-worker, my boss.
It was around the time he hetold me his parents had got
divorced.
And he said one day, he's like,Yeah, I was at home with my dad,
and um, I think he said he washurting or something, and in his
dad saw he lifted up shirt, hehad bruises all over him because

(46:42):
his mom was hitting him.
And I was like, Oh, because healways would talk about his mom,
he still talks to her and stuff.
In my head, I was like, Iwouldn't talk to her anymore if
she did that to me.
And he was like, Well, I kindof, you know, at the time, like
the divorce wasn't good, and Ireally reminded her a lot of my
dad.
So he kind of like understood,and I guess that's why he was
like okay with it, because shestopped.

(47:03):
But I was like, dude, like Iwouldn't talk to my mom anymore
if she beat the shit out of melike that.

SPEAKER_05 (47:07):
What I thought was interesting when I joined the
army, they told us this fun factof after during World War I and
two, they had this questionnairethey would give to new soldiers,
and one of the questions was, Doyou drink more than one pint of
whiskey a day?
And if the answer was yes, thenthey they didn't care either.

SPEAKER_02 (47:26):
I thought you were gonna say they made you cap
that.
So they asked just to see, like,so you do?

SPEAKER_05 (47:33):
They don't really care.
It's just something we gottalook out for.
It's a little check toolbox.

SPEAKER_02 (47:38):
And uh so we learn that Smoke and Stack got Sammy
his guitar.
Um, and Stack tells him hisguitar burnt belonged to Charlie
Patton, someone who helpedpopularise uh uh Delta Blues
back in the day.
Cool.
Uh Stack asks him to sing him asong while driving, and then he
sings traveling.
And uh just the face that assoon as he starts singing,

(48:00):
Michael B.
Jordan's face, like Well, I feltthe same way.
I was like, Oh, and then I wasjust so good.
It's just like that uh greatlike amazement, the face of
amazement, which is somethingthat um it's like it's
authentic, yeah, really which issomething that like Steven
Spielberg is really good at,like the whoa type of like
source shot.
Yeah, like he's and then whenSam Neil gets out, and he's
like, by God.

(48:22):
Was that him like actuallysinging?

SPEAKER_04 (48:23):
Like the the singer?
Yeah, yeah, he's like singing,he's like a songwriter.
Okay, so I think what's the onethat's gonna be.
Yeah, he has the song and thecredit to the I think what made
me like have the same face oflike because when you go with
the ghost singing, you couldusually tell when it's not the
person singing, and then whenyou can genuinely tell it's that
person singing and how good itis.
I think like I said, that's whatadds to it more of it's being
authentic and real.

SPEAKER_02 (48:44):
And this is the first scene that gave me Chills
Number One.
Um also uh Man.
I wish I had that voice.
Yeah, it's like a powerfulvoice.

SPEAKER_04 (48:55):
When I first heard them in the movie, I was like,
golly.
I mean, I was soaked after Iheard it.

SPEAKER_05 (49:00):
Soften wet.

SPEAKER_02 (49:01):
So they head to a train station in Christopher for
for the night.
Stack goes to the train stationto find older hardened blue
singer Delta Slim.
Stack tries to get him to playthat night for$20, but he
rejects because he plays thesame place every Saturday night
and they will always be there,unlike Stack.
Um, but Irish wiki whiske uhIrish beer and forty dollars

(49:22):
changes mind and even plays withSammy.
They attract attention by havingSlim put on a performance.

SPEAKER_04 (49:28):
His uh explanation for why he didn't want to go,
even though it was 20, he'slike, You're paying me 20
tonight, but not tomorrow night.
You don't know if you're gonnabe there.
His reasoning was really good.
And while I was watching, he'slike, How's he gonna convince
him?

SPEAKER_02 (49:39):
And it's like this place is gonna be here 10 years
into the future.
Can you say that?
He could have gone in.
But I think it's probably likeback in the day, it's like, oh,
he's not here.
Someone else comes up and startsplaying the piano, and they're
like, I'll never miss a Saturdaynight and they take over.
Smart.
Um, and then also it whenever heintroduces uh Sammy to him, he's
like, Hey, it's like, yeah, heplays the blues too.

(50:02):
And then he's about to startplaying.
He's like, Hey, put that away.
Put that away.
This is my this is my plot ofland or whatever.
He says, Um out of land.
So Sammy meets Pearline, amarried woman that he flirts
with, invites to the juke jointsopening.
He tells her he goes by PreacherBoy.
It's like, uh, Perline, I'mmarried.
Preacher boy, happily.

(50:22):
Such a quick response.
Careful, but you're gonna biteoff more than you can chew.
And then she walks away likeshaking the butt.
Shaking that ball gun.
Um, and then moments later, uh,Mary, a childhood friend of
Smoke and Stack, um, I love thisbecause uh the Freezer Boys like
goes up to Stacks, like, hey,there's a white woman staring at

(50:43):
you.
It's like, oh shit, really?

SPEAKER_05 (50:45):
Damn, what do I say?

SPEAKER_02 (50:46):
Which is kind of just like builds on that thing
where it's just like, oh crap, awhite person's about to come up
and talk to me.
Now we're gonna have to bescared that something's not
gonna build up, right?
Um, so uh yeah, so sheapproaches the guys.
Mary's upset that the twinsnever sent their regards or
flowers for their mother whopassed the day before, as she

(51:08):
had been like a mother to thetwins.
She tells Stack to go to hell.
Um, and um what does uh preacherboy say?
He's like, maybe she ain'twhite.
Um and then you got this line uhMary, you know I waited for you.
Stack, shit.
I don't know how the hell you'regonna do that.
Mary, because you told me youlove me.
Stack, well, I told you to staythe fuck away from me too, but I

(51:30):
guess you didn't hear that part.
Mary, I heard you, I heard youloud and clear, and then you
stuck your tongue in my coupsand plugged me so hard I figured
you changed from heart.
Josh Allen's like, I gotta throw5,000 yards.
Oh gosh.
Right.
Haley Steinfield crushes.
Yeah, it's like she doesn't.

(51:52):
There's there's the one linethough a little bit lighter.
That's the best.
I think that was like the firstthing you told me, Devin.
Whenever you heard, like, you'relike, hey, this line, right?

SPEAKER_03 (52:02):
And I was like, oh god, I'm gonna know what line
you're talking about, drawingboy.
I thought you was gonna skimpast it.
Oh, that's like halfway throughthe movie.
We'll get there.

SPEAKER_02 (52:10):
So uh Stack and Preacher Boar are now on the
road with Delta Slim.
They drive past some peopleworking on the chain gang uh
like thing, I assume.
I don't know if that was a chaingame thing.
Uh Delta yells at them becausehe knows them.
Uh Preacher Boy asks how heknows them.
Delta Slim explains that him anda friend of his, Rice, got sent
to jail for vagrancy, but theymade him and the group play

(52:30):
music for them, then took themto play for more white people
with a lot of money.
He played ragtime and blues forthem.
He made a lot of money and drankit all away.
His friend Rice tries to getout, but when he got on a train,
a white conductor got the copssearch him and claimed uh
claimed that he stole money bykilling white man and waping,
raping his wife.

(52:52):
It's the worst word to mess upon.
So they uh cut off his manhoodand lynched him.
Then Delta Slim starts hummingthe blues.
Um one of the uh one of myfavorite lines from this movie
is actually see, white folks,they like the blues just fine.
They just don't like the peoplewho make it.

SPEAKER_06 (53:08):
Yeah, still over a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (53:10):
I feel like this uh little uh uh monologue is kind
of hits on the point of themovie.
It's a great special thing.

SPEAKER_03 (53:18):
It's a great scene because you don't you don't see
the story, but you hear it.
That was a good scene.

SPEAKER_02 (53:24):
Which that was what I was gonna bring up next.

SPEAKER_03 (53:25):
Yeah.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 (53:26):
No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 (53:28):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (53:28):
Um but yeah, it's very affecting because at first
you're just hearing them kind ofplaying music, and you're like,
and you kind of really don'tthink about it.
And then when the story turns,you start hearing like a guy's
like, hey, get that guy.

SPEAKER_01 (53:39):
And then it's like, ah, I feel bad.

SPEAKER_02 (53:44):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's good, man.
So uh the three go and recruitcornbread, who's out picking
cotton.
He's they're very rude in frontof his wife, and it's hilarious.
Because the wife's like, Howmuch money?
Yeah, because cornbread's like,damn, I'm gonna have to beat him
up now.
And I love it because cornbreadis like the nicest person in the
movie.
Yeah, he's played like young.

SPEAKER_04 (54:07):
Like a young, he's supposed to be playing like
young people in a lot of moviesas a side character and a lot of
stuff.
He was in Transformers One.
He was like uh Cornbread?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (54:16):
He was in Eight Mile and Yeah, he's always like a
side.

SPEAKER_04 (54:19):
He is in eight mile.
He's uh seeing him get to do it,and I was just like, Oh, cool.
It's fine.
I see him like come up as a likea more of a major role.

SPEAKER_02 (54:26):
Yeah.
Um so Smoke goes to the home ofhis estranged wife Annie, who
practices uh hoodoo.
He leaves flowers to their childchild who they lost years
earlier, which is part of thereason for their time apart.
Annie is suspicious of smoke andstack and wonders who they
robbed to get enough money forwhite people to let them buy the
sawmill.
Smoke doesn't believe in hoodoo.

(54:47):
He she refuses any money fromSmoke because she believes it's
cursed.
Smoke says he's been all overand the only power he knows is
money.
Annie claims her hoodoopractices have kept the twins
safe, but Smoke asks why itdidn't work for their child.
She says she doesn't know.

SPEAKER_04 (55:01):
That's a hard moment there of like someone believing
that.
Because his face is just like,Well, why didn't it work on our
child?
I felt like it really hit homewith like he's like, I'm not
trying I know he's like sayingwhy he doesn't believe, but he's
like, Well, why didn't it workon her?
Yeah, it just it just felt likeit's like, oh damn, that's
that's uh sad.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (55:18):
Because even she's like, I don't know.
She doesn't understand.

SPEAKER_04 (55:22):
Even she doesn't have to do the because usually
it's like, well, you know, noteverything they try and give
like a vague explanation, evenshe's just you know, like said,
I don't know, and drives thepoint home more.

SPEAKER_02 (55:31):
Yeah.
And then uh we see that Smokehas been wearing a mojo bag she
gave him.
He says he loves her and missesher.
Smoke and Annie then proceed tohave sex and do some deep tongue
and ear licking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Uh the music is swelling.
There's like a lot of likethere's a lot of uh scenes where
Michael B.
Jordan is getting a tongue fullyin his ear, and it's just like,

(55:52):
oh he had two mojo bags workingon him in that moment.
But I love it when she's shewhen she's kind of telling,
like, she when she startsgetting kind of revved up while
saying her little monologue,like the music starts swelling,
and the um the depth of field onthe focus kind of blurs in the
background, so it's just all herand it's very intense.
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (56:10):
Um that's when he said, like, you know, the stuff
why it didn't work on our kid.
It kind of broke.
I feel like she was gettingangry and it was adding the
tension, and it just kind of cutit off right there.

SPEAKER_02 (56:18):
And then plus the music swells when they're having
sex and like that song justfucking rolls.
And then the music ejaculates.
Yeah.
Um, anybody know what a mojo bagis?
Uh it's just got herbs and stuffin it, I would assume.
It's a powerful hoodoo amulet, asmall pouch filled with
spiritual items like herbs,roots, charms.
Uh uh for protection symbolizingancestral power, love, and a

(56:42):
spiritual shield against harm,even from supernatural forces,
which we will see works a littlelater in the film.

SPEAKER_04 (56:48):
I forgot about that scene when I rewatched it.
Uh I just completely forgotabout it.

SPEAKER_02 (56:53):
Yeah.
So we see everybody heading outto the juke joints to set up,
and everybody is ready to have agood time.
Um, it's great.
Because like everybody's likesmiling.
It's like, yeah, we're going.
You got cornbread, preacherboys, stack, and delta slim.
They're all like, we're havingfun.
Nothing bad's ever gonna happentonight.
Then enter a white man.

(57:15):
Oh no.
Straight from the sky.
Um, so as the sun is going down,an Irish man named Rimick runs
to the home of a racist couple,Bert and Joan.
Remick convinces them to let himin by offering them in gold in
exchange for protection from uhwhat he says engines.
Um soon a group of Choctawsapproach the house and tell Joan

(57:37):
that Rimick is a dangerous man,but she refuses to listen to
them and sends them in away.
But mainly they actually runaway because they're like, Sun
going down, we better get out ofhere.
Um Joan goes back inside todiscover that Rimic is a vampire
and he just turned Bert intoone.
They proceed to turn Joan aswell.
And this is where I was like,this is a great sequel or
prequel idea with the Indians.

(57:59):
Um yeah, great.

SPEAKER_04 (58:00):
I love when he's just like, I have gold.
Because he saw their I guessthat's a thing with the KKK.
They just he saw it and heimmediately knew like oh offer
them gold because they'll wantthat.
And I was like, Oh, you areanybody money, they should do
it.

SPEAKER_02 (58:12):
I think he was just like I think it uh he also was
like, Oh, they're pieces ofshit, so I can uh there's I do
not feel bad about it at all.

SPEAKER_04 (58:19):
Maybe he never felt bad, but I also loved his
delivery of everything becausejust he felt like he's like, I'm
such a coward and everything.

SPEAKER_02 (58:27):
Well, also I think those little two gold pieces,
right?
I'm pretty sure he's probablyhad those forever and constantly
gets people to let him insidewith those gold pieces and then
kills him, then gets those goldpieces back because he's c he
uses it twice throughout thewhole movie.
It's like John Wick.
Yeah.

unknown (58:40):
Shit.

SPEAKER_02 (58:42):
Uh so yeah, the brothers open the juke joint
with a large crowd turning out.
We see Perline shows up.
Perline hangs out with PreacherBoy for a bit.
A man's cool last name.

SPEAKER_05 (58:51):
There's a lot of cool names.

SPEAKER_02 (58:51):
Perline.
Yeah, it's a great name.
So a man pays 30 cents and someplantation tokens from like uh
different like uh do y'all knowwhat plantation tokens are?
No, I was just in this movie.
So um it's something that wherelike uh after slavery and stuff
ended, when uh black peoplewould still work on their
plantations, or white people,anybody that worked there, they

(59:13):
would pay them in their ownplantation money for that
plantation's own like uh storeand stuff.
So they use those tokens to payfor that.
Like the company store.
And it's essentially was a wayto keep people from leaving
their job because it's like, oh,we're only paying anywhere else.
Yeah, you can't save money, soyou were forced to kind of stay
there because that's the onlymoney that they were giving you.

(59:33):
That's fucked up.
It's like the David Husterscheme.
Turns out uh things have kind ofsucked for a long time for
people.
There people greedy and badpeople always find a way to
screw over pe needy people,right?
Uh people in need.
Yep.
So uh yeah, so the guy's like,hey, I only got 30 cents, and

(59:54):
then like there's these twoplantation tokens, and Smoke's
like, oh shit, I better step inand then snack.
Like, here, yeah, go ahead.
And then Smoke and or Smoke'slike, hey, let me talk to you
and Annie.
Um, Annie and Stack explain toSmoke that they have to make
them feel wanted if they wanttheir juke joint to work.
People have worked hard all weekand they have to let them have a
good time.
However, they spent a lot oftheir money just to get the

(01:00:16):
place open and running.
Stack and Annie convinces Smoketo let some people pay coverage
using uh plantation money andreluctantly agrees, I need a
cigarette.
Mary is allowed to entry due tobeing considered family, as well
as being one-eighth black on hermother's side, which we will
learn soon.

SPEAKER_05 (01:00:33):
It'd be funny if they were anti-smoking.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:38):
I was like, what the hell is that?

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:41):
Sorry, guys.
Neighbors loud ass struck thatthey keep running.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:46):
At first, I was like, Snake, he's not in here.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:50):
I know.
That's why I thought someonelike hit this or something.
I was like, what?
And then crap jumped down.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:54):
Like how you look at me like I did it.

unknown (01:00:56):
I don't know, Dougona.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:58):
So uh Preacher Boy tries to tell Mary to go away,
but she refuses and buysPreacher Boy a drink when she
realizes, like, oh, you're alittle Sammy.
Um, but I think it's funny.
He's like, I'm with the twins.
And she's like, okay, whatever.
It's like, no, I really am withthe twins.
Um, he asks what she is.
Um, and she's like, What?
I'm a human being.
So he's like, you know what Imean.

(01:01:18):
Uh her mom's dad was half black.
Uh, she says her mom helpeddeliver them at birth.
She helped Stack stay aliveafter getting stuck inside their
mom.
Her mom also nursed them aftertheir mom passed away.
She is still mad they didn'tsend flowers for her mom's
funeral.
Smoke kind of walks up and it'slike, Smoke says, like, I sent
plenty of flowers while she wasstill alive to smell them.
I was like, God.

(01:01:38):
Yeah, like, damn, dude.
Michael P.
Jordan, so good in this fuckingplace.
Um, they are worried thatsomeone will see her there, and
because she is married to awhite man, and that would cause
problems for them.
She asks him to tell the truth,and he reveals that he does love
her and that he wants to keepher safe, but that would never
happen with him in a place likethis.

(01:01:58):
Um and then uh, yeah, so it'skind of big.
Essentially, him coming out andsaying, Here's I'm gonna be rude
on how I tell you this, but thisis all my feelings for you and
why I left, and then she cries.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:11):
He does.
Yeah, but she knows better too.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:13):
Yeah, she's like, I know you're just doing this.
Like, give me the truth.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:16):
Yeah, she is very smart.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:17):
Yeah.
Um, so Delta Slim has PreacherBoy play his music, but first he
makes him tell him who he is.
He says he wrote this song forhis father, and it's a song
about loving the blues more thananything, um, even like religion
and stuff like that.
Okay, he puts on a soulfulperformance which entertains the
whole crowd, and Sammy's musPreacher Boy's music is so
powerful that he's able toconjure spirits, black musicians

(01:02:39):
across different time periodsand cultures shown in the juke
joint, joining in thecelebration.
The joint visually appears toburn down while everyone
continues dancing.
This draws the attention ofRimick, Bert, and Joan.
Rimick is stunned by the song,and this is uh I got chills just
thinking about this.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:58):
Like, ah my god, it's such a good scene.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:01):
That is like yeah, and this is where like the quote
I got from earlier, because likePreacher Boys starting to play,
and then you got Delta Slimsaying blues wasn't forced on us
like that religion, and all of asudden we brought that with us
from home.
It's magic what we do, it'ssacred and big.
Oh yeah.
With this here ritual, we healour people and we are free.
Fuck yeah, man.
Yeah.
And then I like it was kind ofit's also very fun because like,

(01:03:24):
you know, he starts playing thesong and you're like, oh hell
yeah, we're gonna get like agreat musical number here.
And then all of a sudden youjust got like uh like the
futuristic musician.
I was like, what the hell?
And then the DJ, and then yousee like from like older like
tribes and stuff, and then yousee, and then at first, you
know, you got uh Grace Chow likewalking, I'm like, what are they
gonna do here?
And then you just see behind Bo,there's like um ancient like

(01:03:48):
Chinese whatever garb on, andthen as Grace walks out, the uh
um the female version comes out,and it's like it's so like this
movie like forces me to tear upjust from how good it is.
It's not like I'm well, it'skind of beautiful because it's
like, hey, they're free, they'rehere with people they know and

(01:04:09):
like, and they're not in dangerbecause of it.
This is one place where they'relike free, there's nothing to
worry about, and then you justsee them all having a good time
and dancing, stack and marriage,kind of dancing, Annie and
smoke, and it's just like, oh,this is their last moment before
vampires come on.
Who would have ever thoughtthat?

(01:04:29):
Um, but like Rimic is seeinglike, oh shit, he's able to
conjure people from his likepast, his ancestors, sure.
Something that he's into to findout.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:40):
If you talk about the visuals, I mean the sounds
too, because like you get theblues, and then you like you
hear like the West Coast hiphop, and then you hear like when
they're like, hey, hey, andthat's kind of recurrent.
And I'm like, dude, yeah, thisis good.
And then my wife is watching itwith me.
It's like, what is this?
I'm just like, bruh.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:56):
It's like yours scene.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:58):
And then like you got that DJ who's like, You got
my guy, Preacher Boy.
Preacher boy's like, it's sogood.
I'm like, dude, this is a walldown my spine, just thinking
about it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:09):
I want everyone I talk about.
I talked about it with Shane,girlfriend, and Shane apparently
has like got new speakers he'sworking on, like home theater
ones.
Nice.
I gotta let him borrow itbecause I'm like, dude, this
movie, like you got yourspeakers going now, scene comes
up, you're gonna feel it.
Yes, it is a I don't know, likeuh a scene like that is it's
very moving.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:29):
Especially in theaters, whenever like kind of
the bass hits, like it you canfeel like you're a little bit of
the shake, and it's like, am Idoing that?
Or is that the most importantthing?

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:37):
I was like, I'm getting such a strong response.
It's a I don't know like how tosay it, like generational scene
that will be something that Ifeel like how we kind of look
back on past movies is like thisis something you would be like
10 years from now, like thatthat movie, that scene.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:52):
This is like the first scene in a movie in a long
time.
Ever honestly, ever sinceeverything everywhere all at
once, where I was just like,shit, yeah, man.
I'm feeling this.
This is great.
This is gonna be like a pivotalmovie now for me.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:04):
We're all like remic at the end of this scene because
we're like You're like, whoa.
Hell yeah.
I need him.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:11):
I understand.
So, as well, yeah.
So like, I don't know.
Ah, it's just so good.
Yes, I just want to scream.
Amazing.
I'm just gonna release anepisode where I'm just screaming
after this.
So as the vamps walk towards thejoint, we see Preacher Boy and
Perline about to have sex.
Preacher boy goes down on her.
Stack overhears this and isproud.

(01:06:33):
He's a giver.
He found that little button.
Oh, Preacher Boy.
They're like, Grace, come here.
Listen to what my cousin says.
It's great.
It's like, oh yeah, PreacherBoy's having the time of his
life.
I'm sure Smoke won't point a gunat him later.
So Smoke and Stack talk aboutcash.
In two months, they will be outof fresh cast.
The vampires approach the jutejoint under the guise of being

(01:06:53):
musicians who heard the musicplaying and want to join.
Cornbread won't let them in,though.
Smoke and stack ask if they areclan, and they they say they
believe in equality in music.
They're like, no.
They took offense to that shit.
I promise.
And uh the trio play a bit ofmusic.
Picked poor Robin Clean.
Nice.
Do you get it?
Because they're also vampires.
Yes.
What do you mean?

(01:07:13):
Yeah, so like pick poor RobinClean, like vampires eating and
fighting.
I don't know.
I was kind of hearing it now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:20):
I'm sure it's like a double meaning.
Yeah, yeah.
It's an innocent song, but yougot vampires singing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:24):
It's got double meaning.
It's just supposed to be a joke,but you didn't understand it.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:28):
It's a joke or it's a meaning about they're about to
kill everyone.
That's a joke to you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:32):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Damn.
He's three for three.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:36):
But Smoke is suspicious of them and denies
them in them offering payment.
He scoffs because they don'twant him in because he is white.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:44):
Is it because I'm he's good.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:49):
Oh uh when threatened, though, they leave.
Smoke and stack talk about atrunk they forgot.
Um, they are worried if thewhite people get offended, they
will tell and bring the wholegroup with them next time.
Um, also, I love when they'replaying the pickpour Robin
Clean.
Like Stack is vibe into it.
Stack's like, hell yeah.
Everybody's like, you know,honestly, you'll aren't bad.

(01:08:10):
Um, so smoke and preacher boytalk.
Smoke wants, uh, warns him thatit's good now uh being like in a
rambling man type thing.
Uh, but eventually all therambling gets old.
But Preacher Boy is having sucha good time that he's gonna go
away and play in Chicago.
Um, Stack tells Mary thatbecause people are paying with
plantation money, they're allgonna go under fast.

(01:08:32):
Mary says that they should goand let the white people in so
they can make more money.
Smoke tells Preacher Boy thatbecause their dad was beating
them up so bad, they decided torun away.
They went to Mound Bayou thatwas founded by free slaves and
everything was black-owned, butthe mayor knew their father and
how evil he was, so they didn'tlet him stay.
He says that's where PreacherBoy should go because it's the

(01:08:53):
proper place for him to go andto leave all the improper stuff
to Smoke and Stack.
Great little line.
Preacher Boy tells them nobodyknows his father, but they know
them.
He says that they can't tell himwhat to do, and if they're gonna
stop him, they will just have tokill him.
Smoke points a gun.
It's like, I'm a soldier.
You just gave me an order.
Um then Preacher Boy kind oflooks scared and is like, this

(01:09:15):
is what you're gonna have todeal with if you go to Chicago.
It's like it's like run by themonster.

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:21):
Like, are there other reasons like we can't like
even though they seem like theygenuinely like want to come in,
like they want to come and giveus money.
It's like, you don't understand,they're fine, but someone steps
on that girl, his girlfriendstep on the shoe or makes eyes
at the girl.
Yeah, they're gonna immediatelyis like, oh, okay, we've gotta
kill everybody, and it's good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:37):
The whole point of that night is to be free from
all that.
So Mary decides to go and talkto the white people herself,
since she knows the brotherscould use the money.
While Mary is impressed by theirmusic, will you go lassie?
Or I think it's like Thyme andHeather or something like that.
Say a song about nature, love,and shared journey, picking
Thyme and Heather uh about theworld.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:57):
So uh you could have like double meaning of he's
going out and turning peopleinto vampires, things like that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:03):
But it's also just kind of a uh, you know, he keeps
using the word fellowship,right?
And love.
Fellowship and love.
It's like we can all be one.
Like a charge.
Yeah, one high.
Exactly.
Um where was I?
Um, so yeah, he's impressed bytheir music, but especially
impressed by their gold.

(01:10:24):
Um, they say that they are therefor fellowship and love, and
they see hurt in Mary, and thatthey wish they could have
changed her fate, and that theycould uh like her Mary's
mother's fate.
And they say they can changehers too.
Um so she sees something is offwhen Rimick's eyes glows red and
he starts drooling.
And she points her gun and stackthat stack gave to him.

(01:10:47):
Crazy, the drooling.
Such a good element, thevampires, and I feel like it
should be in every vampire moviebecause it's so gross, right?
So gross.

SPEAKER_05 (01:10:56):
Have you ever accidentally drooled on to
something?
Uh well, like I mean, on apillow before.
I don't really drool anymore,though.
I was at a football game handingdown a uh soda to my daughter's
like dance instructor.
I was like, can you give this toher?
And like some drool came out.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:17):
Was she hot or something?

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:19):
No, I was just hungry.
I was hungry for food in myhand.
I was like, I can't wait to eatthis.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:24):
He was looking at her head became a hamburger.

SPEAKER_05 (01:11:27):
And a little spot of drool came out.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:29):
I know Jesse drooled all the time when she drinks
something.
What?

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:32):
Anytime you drink something, it's kind of because
my bits I do when I drink water.
It's funny when people just likeblow.
So Mary starts to walk away, butRimick then flies towards her,
and we cut to Perline, whostarts singing a dope ass song,
Pale Moon Rising, about leavingworries at the door and how the
sun will rise once more.

(01:11:53):
Um your worries are at the door,he's only gonna bite them in.
Yeah, uh Pearline fuckingcrushes this scene, though.
I didn't like when she just kindof starts like jumping and
stomping to the beat.

SPEAKER_05 (01:12:03):
I'm like, the music in this movie is so good.
Stomping songs.
It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 (01:12:09):
I love me, a good stomping song.
That was the guy who like used aload of dice and they said take
care of him.
So they're kicking him whilethey're also doing that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:18):
And I was like, it's so good.
Um so Mary comes up to Cornbreadand asking to come back in, and
he lets her.
Mary goes and starts dancing.
Love it's like, are you gonnalet me in or just keep blocking
the doors?
Like, when'd you get out here?
And like lets her in.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:31):
It's like, ah, that was good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:33):
It's great.
Nice and believable.
Um, so so at the same time,Cornbrad goes outside to relieve
himself with while Slim takesover security.
Mary seduces Stack and kisseshim.
He rebuffs her, but she hits himwith this line.
So you can rob a train in banks,but you can't steal this pussy
for a night.

(01:12:53):
You guys think Josh Allen makesher say that in bed?
She might have to come up withnew material for me.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:00):
Maybe like he saw the movie and didn't realize
like all the scenes that weresaid, and he was like, Dude,
something happened with MichaelB.
Jordan.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:07):
Yeah.
So then um cornbread's outside,ping and Burton Joan kind of
lure cornbread away by tauntinghim.
Um you just hear likefellowship, love, cornbread.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:19):
Every time he stopped peeping and then look
around, pee again.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:22):
Where the hell did he go to take a piss?
Just kind of had to like it looklike just a little bit in the
forest, a little bit to nobody.

SPEAKER_04 (01:13:28):
You know, you go pee on the big tree.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:29):
And then you just got all the fireflies, and all
of a sudden it's like you hearthe lights, and then peekaboo.
I think that's uh and then itjust immediately made reminded
me of uh Kendra Gamar.
Yeah, great song.
So Smoke deals with a patron whoslashed another man across the
face with a razor after beingexposed for loaded dice.
Smoke orders Preacher Boy to getstacked, but he is too

(01:13:50):
embarrassed to pull him awayfrom sex and deep ear
penetration.
She also drools in his mouth.
Yeah, you're drooling.
The amount of drool is what madeit gross.
It was like a water hose goingstraight from her mouth to his
mouth.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:03):
At that point, you just spit in the mouth, right?

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:05):
That's like yeah.
I mean, pretty much what he isdoing.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:08):
You know, I don't remember what they said.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:11):
They mentioned that numerous times.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:12):
It's what corn syrup or something?
No, it was real drool.
That's not right.
I don't think it was real drool.

SPEAKER_04 (01:14:17):
I thought they said it was real drool.
No.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:19):
I missed this from the real drool.
You have to do it.
I thought she said something.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:27):
Like, I just love it because like he's like, oh man,
you're drooling.
It's like, you want some?
I kind of wish he was like, no.
No, thanks.
It's like spit that out overthere.
What?

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:36):
Pens or a napkin.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:37):
I'm just kidding.
Uh no, but that's what I'd belike, nah, I'm like, swallow
that down and then I'll kiss yousome more.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 (01:14:42):
We're in the moment, Jesse.
That's true.
You gotta go ass to mouth.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:47):
What?

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:58):
When you're in the moment.
I guess.
I'd stick to the drool.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:06):
That's so funny.
Okay.
Um, did you find it?

SPEAKER_04 (01:15:09):
I'm having to watch a video because she's this
interviewer's asking.
Can't you find an article?
No, apparently not.
Where the fuck?
She mentioned something aboutit.
I'm pretty sure it was cornsyrup.
Haley Steinfeld Spit SceneCenters was filmed practically.
So maybe that was what I saw.
But it could be.
It was not made using CGI.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:31):
Yeah, that's what it practically means.

SPEAKER_04 (01:15:36):
Okay, you were right.
Syrup.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:38):
Tasty.
Ladies and gentlemen, heat tellsme I'm right.
It's almost like when my wifesays I'm like, because he's a
lawyer, dude.
Like, he's a damn lawyer.
I mean, you're straight upright.

SPEAKER_04 (01:15:48):
I don't have a reason to spend it.
Well, I thought it was real, butyou were right when you said,
like, yeah, you don't make itthat thick.
And oh, well, yeah.
Because I was like, well, I readthe art, I only read the
headline and I thought I mistookit.
And I was saying, I'm notfighting you.
You're right.
The biggest grin on the spacefor the moment.
Like I just looked them off.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:07):
There's no ass to mouth.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:14):
You guys look at the wild up in the off.
So um let's look up ass to mouthvideos.

SPEAKER_06 (01:16:21):
Come on.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:23):
Anyway.
So I love the scene when likewhen Preacher Boy goes and sees
that they're having sex and goesback up to Smoke, and he's like,
Why didn't you get him?
He's like, Uh, he's like a goodnookie or whatever.
And he's like, Well, so and he'slike, I ain't doing that by
myself.
And he's like, Yeah, I mean,Stack's gonna beat the shit out
of him.
You stop him having sex.
Um, but then Smoke goes andsees, and then all of a sudden,
Mary's biting the shit out ofhis neck, and there's like blood

(01:16:45):
spurting everywhere.
And then uh so Smoke empties hisentire gun into her, but Mary
survives and vows that we willkill everybody.
Um Smoke tries to help Stack,but he dies.
And now the fun is over.
Hit the fan.
They are home now.
Yeah.
Um, and I love it.

(01:17:06):
It's like um, like why he's likeholding them, it's really great.
Michael B.
Jordan impress uh impressionscene because he's like he's
constantly like, I'm with you, Ilove you, and it's just like I
mean, can't you kind of expectat least one death on your
opening night?
I mean, I guess that was likethe slash of the face.
I mean, that I feel like like wegot our quote in this.

SPEAKER_05 (01:17:27):
Yes, okay.
I just feel like that's kind ofwithin the margins of the city.

SPEAKER_04 (01:17:29):
I think it was uh also like someone's gotta die
somewhere in the like it'seither in this scene or like
coming up, it kind of showedmore of made me realize the
differences between the twinsbecause he was like, the best
part about me was him becausehe's like, I'm I'm a soldier,
I'm the person who's willing tokill, and he's he's like the
smokish one or something.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:48):
Smoke is business, stack is fun.
Yeah, and so like stacked helpslike a mullet.
Yeah.
Smoke in the front, stack in theback.
All right, so Slim orders thepatrons to leave the joint,
leaving only smoke.
Preacher boy, Annie, Slim,Perline, and Grace, and like
just like a couple people wehaven't really met.
Um, Preacher Boy tells Anniethat she said we are coming

(01:18:12):
back.
Annie thinks it's haints andtries to warn Smoke, but he
doesn't want to leave Stack orhave anybody touch him or move
him outside.
He asked if Annie has anythingthat will bring him back to
life.
Like well, just like whateverlike hoodoo powers, if there's
like a hoodoo resurrectionpower.
Yeah.

(01:18:32):
Um haints are also like evilspirits and things, and I guess
back in the day they would uhpaint blue and stuff on it
because it represents water andsky.
That would ward off the evilspirits.
Nice.
Out of breath, I moved a littlebit.
It's hard to get up and down outof this chair.
So Grace sends Bo to get the carbecause she's like, Yo, we were

(01:18:54):
just supposed to like helpsupply this place and have a
good time.
We got a kid to worry about.
We need to get out of here andgo.
So Bo goes to get the car.
Um, after he's gone, cornbreadreturns and a man to be invited
inside.
And he realizes something iswrong because he isn't
immediately walking in.
She says that he is dead.
He says, We are one people andhe shouldn't be going in

(01:19:15):
uninvited.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19:15):
He's like, I'm just trying to be polite with
kindness.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:19):
Uh cornbread is he crushes the seed.
Um, she says, Oh, no onebelieves him.
Cornbread asks for his money forthe night.
When Smoke puts out his hand, hevampirized cornbread, tries to
bite him, but gets shot in theface and flees.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:35):
Somebody told Smoke's ass to be careful.
Yeah, he was careful.
He was careful.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:39):
He was threw it.
That's what I would have done.
I think it's one of those thingswhere they're like, Oh, I mean,
he could just be being weird.
Maybe this is like a weirdcornbread thing.
I would, but yeah, I would havedone what you'd done.
Like, here you go.
Made it right on him.
Here, catch.
Um, so Annie realizes that Annierealizes that they are dealing

(01:19:59):
with.
With vampires.
Stack ends up coming back tolife as a vampire inside the
closet.
He tries to convince Smoke tolet him out.
And he warns him not to.
He bursts out before fleeing outof the joint when Annie splashes
garlic juice in his face.
Annie knows now that they arevampires.
The vampires end up turning theother patrons, including Bo, who

(01:20:23):
Grace wants to go get.
Um, this is where we get thegreat Delta Slimline.
Y'all smell anything?
No.
I think I shat myself.
So Annie tells them they needgarlic, wood, and holy water.
She says with vampires, theirsouls get stuck in their bodies,
and their souls can't go andlive with their ancestors.
She performs a hoodoo ritual tosee their fates.

(01:20:44):
She tells them to kill them withsunlight or a stake through the
heart.
Paperboy thinks this is hisfault and that his father warned
him.
Delta Slim says the devil hascome from him many times and to
leave it to him.
Paperboy.
We watching Atlanta.

SPEAKER_06 (01:20:59):
Yeah.
Paperboy.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:01):
Paperboy.
Um so preacher boy thinks hethis is his fault and that his
father warned him.
Delta Slim says that the devilhas come from him many times and
to leave it to him.
Annie, if she gets bit, shewants smoke to kill her so she
can go and be with the peoplewaiting for her on the other
side.
So um when Annie throws items onthe table, they're called

(01:21:21):
casting bones.
She's performing a ritual, aform of hoodoo divination to
gain insight into the vampirecurse and foretell the future,
revealing she already knows thetragic path ahead, including her
own potential turning and thefate of smoke.
All while they try to find a wayto protect him and her soul for
the afterlife.
Like whenever she likes she sawthat she was probably gonna get
turned.

(01:21:41):
She didn't see who.
So that's whenever it gets to uhStack being the one to do it,
it's like, no, not you.
Heartbreaking.
Uh but yeah.
Uh-huh.
So they find a dead patron andtake him outside.
They're like, who bit him?
Just get him the hell out ofhere.
Uh, where they hear singing uhRocky Road to Dublin, a song
about a man traveling far fromhome, and the only people

(01:22:03):
willing to help him are peopleof his own home.
Uh holy shit, that's a goodscene.
Did not know that I needed this.
A bunch of vampires.
Their eyes in the background andeverything.
Irish folk song and like riverdancing or whatever they call
it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:20):
I was just like that shot where uh Rimic is river
dancing his feet, you will swap.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:25):
And then like you kind of got the Yeah, but then
like at the end, and just likeyou see like Michael B.
Jordan, Haley Steinfeld.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:32):
Still loving it.
Yeah.
And it sounds good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:35):
Hell yeah.
Because I was like, after we hadthe one big music number, I was
like, oh shit, that's gonna belike the best music number.
And then this one hit, and I'mlike, we're getting two great
ones.
Hell yeah.
They're just gonna put out alive album.
It's just the it's just the shotof everybody in a circle all
dancy to him, and he's justlike, but then like whenever he
ends the song, he's just likehyping them up surrounding them.

(01:22:57):
It was just like, yeah, chillsnumber four for me.
Um, yeah.
So then we realized pretty mucheverybody that left the place
got turned.
So the gang eat garlic toprotect them.
Perline doesn't like the garlicand doesn't want to eat it.
Smokes like, eat it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:12):
Because the nigga of that bitch.
Yeah, like I was like, come on,lady.
Like, eat like Preacher Boy justate that coups.
Yeah.
She walked five miles.
And she can't eat no garlic.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:23):
Yeah, Natalie was like, just eat it.
Look, I understand.

SPEAKER_04 (01:23:27):
Eating a whole garlic loaf would suck.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:29):
Yeah.
But I told Natalie, I was like,oh man, I'd be like, Can I eat
something with it?
Natalie's like, to prove you'renot a vampire, you would do it.
She's like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:36):
I mean, I'd just be like, I would like bite into it
and be like, all right, am Igood?

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:41):
Well, I love Delta Slim after he said, Man, no.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:45):
Because like he's like, oh like patting his chest,
like, hold on, hold on.
Then he's like, uh he's like,Man, that Irish beer is terri uh
really messing with my nerves.
So then they go back to the guythat they thought died, uh, but
it guess he just threw upalcohol or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 (01:24:00):
I think a bottle broke because he fell over.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:02):
Oh, okay.
So uh the guy is begging to comeback in, and cornbread's like,
Well, look at this, and noticeshim and attacks him.
Bo tries, um, yeah, and likeattacks him right as they're
opening the door and likesmokes, like, oh shit.
And then that's when Bo tr comesup and like cornbread's just
going ham on this guy, and he'slike, All right, come on, Grace,
let's go.
He's like, Oh, that's not a bigdeal.

(01:24:23):
I'm like, that's the bestattempt you had, Bo.
He just didn't care.
He's like, I'll just be socasual about it.
Yeah.
Um and boop, boop, boop, boop,boop, boop, boop.
Yeah, so that doesn't work.
Remick approaches and tells himthat he has all of Bo's memories
and now has, and Bo has hismemories now.
He tells him that he only wantsSammy because his music will
help bring his people's spiritsback to him.

(01:24:44):
He said he sensed him and thatif they give him up, they can
all live.
Delta Slim says he's one of themnow, though.
Um, yeah, just this whole scenerules because then you have like
Mary and Um Stack and then Bertand Joan coming up.
I love Joan because she's likeshe's almost like um, you know,

(01:25:05):
it the vampires have become acult by the end of this movie,
essentially, right?

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:09):
Because she's like, fellowship in love.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:11):
And it's just like, all right, calm down, lady.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:14):
Is this when like Sammy almost like starts to walk
out?
Yeah, and they're like, No, no,no, no.

SPEAKER_04 (01:25:19):
They probably know it's like um well you're not
gonna stop.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:22):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I mean, I don'tknow.
All they have to do is just stayin there.
I mean, all they literally hadto do is not go outside and wait
for the sun to rise.
Well, I think uh realized withuh so they could just push Sammy
out and be like, so you're gonnago like to Chicago or something
and get away from here?

SPEAKER_04 (01:25:38):
Um, is that with the husband, he just seems so cocky,
and he's like, She's our weaklink because he mentioned the
daughter.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:44):
Yeah.
So now that Mary, Stack, Bert,and Joan come up, and Remix says
that what they have built hereis a lie.
He explains that the brotherswere set up by Hogwood, who is
the grand dragon of the KKK, andwas gonna have Bert, his nephew,
lead other Klansmen to kill thetwins and their patrons,
something that Stack backs upsince he now has Remix memories.
Fucking come on, man.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:07):
Can I just say the names they use for their higher
up people like y'all are fuckingnerds?
Yes, they are.
That's the first time I heard ofa Grand Dragon.
Well, it's the Grand Wizard, andI think the Grand Dragon is the
leader.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:16):
My dad dressed up as a grand wizard one time for
Halloween.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:21):
But like the actual Grand Wizard?

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:23):
Yeah, like red and black, and he walked in the
Hooters legend.
I mean, that's fuckinghilarious.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:29):
I did it.
They were oh my god, that's awhole different story.
I gotta move that's fuckinghilarious.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:35):
That's crazy.
What are you thinking?
How old was he?
He's wild.
He had to be like in his 30s,I'm sure.

SPEAKER_06 (01:26:44):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:45):
That's amazing.
Ballsy.
So um Rimick offers the group achance to become vampires,
allowing them to live foreverand to escape racial
persecution.
Uh, when they refuse, Rimicsuggests that they pay a visit
to Lisa, Grace and Bo's teenagedaughter.
Stack tells Smoke that this isthe freedom that they have been
looking for, but they don't buyit, though.

(01:27:08):
Alright, so the note I put inhere hold for applause didn't
really matter.
Okay, so so Grace is set up andthey are uh Grace is upset and
they try to calm her.
She calls out smoke for being asoldier and not doing anything
because he's like constantlysaying he's soldier, and it's
like, they're threatening mydaughter, they killed your

(01:27:29):
brother, and you're not doinganything.
So why are we calling you asoldier now?
And he's just like he stands up,he's like, I'll hit you.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:36):
Uh it's funny because it's the person who's
like, You're a soldier, dosomething's like, Yeah, but he's
also a a smart person.
You don't just charge in therewithout a plan.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what that was.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:44):
And they're like, We just have to sit here.
Don't just don't go outside.
You're fine, you're safe.

SPEAKER_04 (01:27:50):
Or invite them in.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:51):
But then, I mean, they could constantly be coming
back every night, though.
So the survivors gather steaks,guns, and garlics.
The vampires start singing, pickpoor Robin clean.
See, because it has doublemeaning that they're gonna pick
them clean because they'revampires and bite.
So then Grace shouts at thevampires to come inside as they
think her daughter lead uh asshe thinks of her daughter
leading to the final showdown.

SPEAKER_05 (01:28:12):
I'll just be like, Yeah, Grace!

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:15):
Dang it! When they all started getting ready to
fight, I would be like, beat herass right now.

SPEAKER_02 (01:28:19):
She's like, I'm throwing her out.
She's she invited you, she'soutside now, so we should um is
because so and she bites Smoke'shand, and that's how she's
because they're trying to coverher mouth.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:30):
Hayley Steinfeld's character, she uh was invited
in, but then she left, so shecouldn't get back in.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:28:37):
So it's like she can, right?

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:38):
Well, she never did.

SPEAKER_02 (01:28:39):
No, you have to every time you think you go
outside, you have to be backinvited back in, I believe.
I don't know.
Or not.
I don't know.
So um, yes, final showdown time.
Uh, even though like I'm like,damn it, Grace, why did you do
this?
But she fucking redeems it inthe movie with like the most
radous death.

SPEAKER_04 (01:28:57):
I love it.
So this is what I want to bringup.
So I, you know, I had the 4Kversion.
Um it said, including extendedscenes.
And I've been watching it, and Iwas like, oh, has it happened?
So it was right before that dooropens up.
So as it starts to they start toget ready, the scene just
extends fully on my TV, and Iwas like, oh shit, this is
fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:29:16):
Yeah, that's because like it was shot for IMAX.
Certain scenes were.
So like this whole finalshowdown to the point where
Rimic dies is all shot like uhfull screen, like for IMAX.
It was so cool.
Um, so Grace charges Bo thesteak, but first they like she
like throws Molotov cocktail andRimic's just like, get this shit
out of here, and it catches onfire.
And like Grace goes and stabsBo, but they both catch on fire.

(01:29:37):
And so like you see him like andthen when it cuts back to him,
they're both like completely onfire, and she's still like,
Well, so much for going to yourdaughter.
I was just like, you know what,Grace?
All forgiven, because that wasmetal.

SPEAKER_04 (01:29:49):
It was, but I'm like, you you're doing this to
get back to your daughter.

SPEAKER_02 (01:29:53):
No, she's got nobody just to protect, she doesn't
care about getting to her justto kill them all so they can't
go get her.
She just went too hard.
Yeah.
She went hard in the paint.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:01):
They did it, she did ignore, like everybody ignored
what Delta was saying.
It's like, they're not going, itdon't look like they're going
anywhere.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:06):
Yeah, they're all outside singing.
She should have just but I meanyou never know, like after 30
minutes, it could be like Rimik,like, all right, I'm gonna go
fly to get her and then bringher back and be like, eh, eh,
eh.
Gonna bite her, huh?

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:18):
But then I would wait.
Yeah, just wait at that point.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30:23):
Um, but you just can't trust vampires, you know
what I mean?
So uh now all the vampires arecoming in.
The gang is able to hold themoff a bit, but then stack bites
Annie.
Damn.
Because it's like smokes like,no, don't not her, and then
she's like, not you, Stack.
This is the worst possiblesituation.
Seeing your lover being the oneto kill you while your actual

(01:30:47):
lover is right next to you, andit's just gotta be like, well
fuck.
Right?
I mean, because they look thesame.
It's also I could think if shejust feels bad maybe for your
life.

SPEAKER_04 (01:30:58):
Maybe she feels bad for uh smoke because it's like
you see your brother kill levelof your life.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:04):
Yeah, and you also kind of see yourself kill the
level of your life.
It's like, you know, levels,man.
Yeah.
And then plus, you know, likeyou know, I don't know.
This is crazy, it sucks.
Um that's what they did.
They're vampires.
The not the the not you see thatthat was a fake laugh.
That was a real laugh.

SPEAKER_04 (01:31:22):
See, I say that, but I don't fucking get recognition
that it was.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:27):
So that a little real laugh?
No.
Well, that's how I laugh a lot.
Oh, sorry.
But the not you line just reallygets me.
Um, and an emotional moment, shetells uh Smoke to kill her and
he stabs her with a stake.
Here's what I love though,right?
So, like they still have theirmemories and their humanity a

(01:31:48):
little bit inside of like Maryand Stack, right?
So when they bite Annie, to themthis is a joyous thing, right?
They're like, Yes, Annie, you'repart of a smoke, come on.
And then as soon as he stabsthem, Mary's like, No, this
wasn't the plan.
We're all supposed to betogether forever.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:02):
Because she like she didn't see it as death, she saw
it as your new life.

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:06):
It's like, wait, what do you mean?
We're gonna be together forever.
What's the problem with this?
And it's just like never reallythink about that in a vampire
movie.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:13):
Well, they showed like real emotion of like, even
though we see them as killingthem, they don't.
And because he mentions itseveral times.
Like, I wish we could havehelped your mother.
Yeah.
Especially at the end when hetalks to them.

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:23):
Yeah.
This is great because like, youknow, they brought a lot of
humanity to the vampires, andI'm like, that's they're not
just uh because usually when youget vampires and they're super
old, they're like, I'm just sodone with life.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:36):
I don't shave my mustache anymore.

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:39):
Yeah, this movie makes you almost want to be a
vampire just because how theyOh, if I could if I could be
like any of like the oldmonsters and stuff like
werewolves, Frankensteins, andmummies or whatever, I'd
definitely want to be a vampire.
Yeah.
First of all, daytime, but sooverrated.

SPEAKER_04 (01:32:55):
Uh you say that, but the beach in the morning is
pretty nice.
Well, I'll be in the beach atnight.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:02):
So the vampires all run away at this point.
Uh Slim attracts a crowd ofvampires to go after him by
cutting his arm.
Um, and then most of thevampires are staked and blown
up.
Smoke and stack fight each otherwhile Sammy tries to escape
Rimic outside after Perlinesaves him, but gets bit herself.
This is where we get the becausethey go upstairs and they're

(01:33:22):
gonna go outside and he opensthe door, and this is where we
get Sammy.
God, it's so good.
So good.
Then Rimick claw uh so yeah.
Uh Sammy makes it outside, andthen um he's like, I'm running
away.
And then Rimmick comes up andhe's like slashes his face and
jumps off the second story.
Yeah, and he like hurts his leg.

SPEAKER_04 (01:33:40):
Because uh he's fighting his brother.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:42):
That was one of the honestly, that was one of the
most general, genuous reactionsI had from pain in this movie.
Whenever he like falls, like,ooh.
Yeah, well, he didn't get thebody of the neck, I didn't care
anything.
The sh gunshots is whenever helanded on the ground, it was
like the thud.

SPEAKER_04 (01:33:55):
Well, it seemed real because he didn't roll with it,
he just immediately and he had alimp right after that.

SPEAKER_05 (01:33:59):
And he protected his guitar.
My man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:02):
Um, but yeah, this explains what happened to his
face earlier.
And while in Rimic's grass,Sammy starts saying the Lord's
prayer, but Rimick and the othervampire start saying it with
him.
Rimick explains that the men whostole his father's land said
those same words to him, andthen like this whole time he
like then like as he'sexplaining, he's starting to
almost kind of like baptize him,which is crazy.

(01:34:23):
Oh yeah, I didn't think aboutthat.
That's cool.
And so he baptizes him whiletelling him the men were liars
and that everyone is connectedto everything and everyone.
Because they're like, with likethe prayer, you can keep out the
uh beast and everything, buthe's like, We are nature, we are
beasts, we are everything.
With that everything bagel.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:39):
Yeah, like everything everywhere, all at
once, and it all connects.

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:44):
So in smoke and sacrifice, and um, like every
time Stack's almost about to getthe upper hand, there's like the
the you know, around him,there's kind of like the
vibration because the mojo bag'sprotecting him.
And um then Smoke gets the upperhand, and it looks like he's
gonna stab him, and he's like,All I want to do is protect you,
and it's like, you did, and thenjust Michael B.
Jordan's face as he's likehovering over him.

(01:35:06):
Man, yeah, fantastic.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:08):
Like, I'm sorry I couldn't protect you.
He's like he always did.

SPEAKER_04 (01:35:12):
Yeah, that was re-watching it and like I don't
know how I missed some of it.
Like, it just didn't hit thesame.
Maybe I was just so absorbedwith everything else that was
going on.
Re-seeing, like it made meappreciate more of him this
time.
And you're right, when I sawthat, I was like, damn, it feels
that made me made me feel bad.

SPEAKER_03 (01:35:26):
Yes, because he, I mean, he does a great job in
this movie.
Yeah, two different charactersand the chemistry, like it's it
felt real.

SPEAKER_04 (01:35:34):
And because I remember reading before this
came out about him doing that,and I was like, Oh, that usually
doesn't work out.
And then when I uh watched it, Iwas like, damn, this is they
really feel like brothers.

SPEAKER_05 (01:35:44):
Yes.

SPEAKER_04 (01:35:44):
Yes, it feels like two separate people.

SPEAKER_02 (01:35:46):
And that's why when I was talking about the little
handing the cigarette over, andwhy I was like, that's so
fantastic.
Most movies can't do that, andit makes you feel like they're
both in the same movie, unlikeyou know, like parent trap, like
or what is it with like thetwins?
Is that parent trap or whatever?
And like whenever you got aLindsay low hand on each side of
the screen, but obviously theywere it was just imposed one on

(01:36:08):
one side and so great.
Um, anyways, so Preacher Boyuses the twins' father's guitar
to jam the silver part intoRimick's skull.
He's like, God dang it, golly D.
I love his reaction.

SPEAKER_04 (01:36:20):
It just seems like a real reaction.

SPEAKER_02 (01:36:22):
He's like, shh, ouchies.
Um and then smoke then shows upand stakes Rimick through the
chest just as the sun startscoming up.
Get all the other vampires likethat.

SPEAKER_05 (01:36:33):
Yeah, they're all stunned from him getting hit in
the face with the silver.

SPEAKER_04 (01:36:36):
Yeah, thank you.
Because I was sitting here like,how did he just get up there
without them stopping him?
They're all like so thatexplains it.
Thank you.
Ouchie.
Well, I mean, they went afterthe head.
Nobody.
Well, uh, if anyone because Ithink I don't know, maybe
someone was asking, it's like,well, why would silver hurt
them?
I was like, well, I think silveris considered a pure marrow,

(01:36:58):
kind of like salt is consideredpure, and that's why it can
stop.
Well, in vampire lore, silveralso werewolves and vampires.
They're both I don't like it.
They're all like, ouch.
Oh, well, the okay, now Iremember.
Silver is because of the reasonit hurts them, is because of
technically the vampire issomething made of the devil, and
silver hurts them because of thesilver coins that Judas was paid

(01:37:19):
for his uh betrayal of Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 (01:37:22):
Oh.

SPEAKER_04 (01:37:22):
Interesting.
Yeah.
I love that.
I I I thought that was a coolconcept for it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:28):
No, that was great.
I never actually knew the reasonthat they didn't either that uh
silver was a big thing.
Uh so and then Rimic, he's likebursting into flame.
Everybody's catching on fire.
And then like the way that Rimicdies is really cool where it's
like a tornado.

SPEAKER_04 (01:37:45):
Like, yeah, you said um his soul, like their souls,
he can't be, she can't theycan't be free.
It's like, is that his soulbeing freed?

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:51):
Because it's yeah, that's what I was also kind of
curious about.
I would assume.
Like, I mean, it almost but thenyou'd be like, well, why
wouldn't you just die, killyourself earlier?
Because you're usually at thatpoint.
Like with the, you know, withall the like the classic
universal horror mon uhmonsters, like usually it's a
curse.
So like maybe even after you'rekind of damned to hell, so you
won't get to go and be with yourancestors.

SPEAKER_04 (01:38:11):
Well, if it goes with the fact of like them being
more animals, self-preservationis a thing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:38:16):
Yeah, and it's true.
And he's like, you know, I canlive forever.
Whatever.
You know, what's up, dog?
So yeah, and then we see Mary,she makes her escape a little
bit earlier.
We saw knowing that the clan iscoming.
Smoke orders Preacher Boy to getaway quickly and bury the
guitar.
Because I can't, because youknow, it was Charlie Stanton's,
and he's like, What?
Who told you that?

(01:38:36):
Stack, he's like, he's a damnliar.
But then we realize it was theirdad's guitar.
Damn.
Oh.
Which I feel like the big dealis there.
Is like, you know, they're stillkind of clutching, even though,
like, you know, their dad wasn'tthe best guy.
They're like, Well, they stillshould stay in the family, so
they gave it to Preacher Mm.

SPEAKER_04 (01:38:52):
Maybe someone who was they could see it as like
someone who was considered evilor bad, someone who has it can
do something good with it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:38:58):
Yeah.
I thought it was like that's hissoul.
Oh, and yeah, you could look atit like that too.

SPEAKER_04 (01:39:06):
It would make sense for uh Stack to give it to him
because Smoke was the one wholike kind of was hardened more
because he's the one who had tolike kill his dad.
And yeah.
Yeah, it breaks that innocenceof who your dad was versus Stack
who was knocked out.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:20):
Yeah.
Um and then he tells Sammy to bestrong.
So smoke smoke lights up hiscigarette and he's like all
shaky.
But you know, like earlier hewasn't shaky, and now he's like,
you know, kind of traumatizedright now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:39:29):
I also thought that he couldn't because he's got the
shakes.
Yeah.
Stack always made the cigarettesfor him.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:36):
Oh yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 (01:39:37):
Heaven fucking hey, man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:40):
Um but while he's making the cigarette, we uh see
flashes of everyone coming tothe party and setting up and
smiling and having a good time.
And this is where I start tokind of break down a little bit
while watching the movie.
I'm like, it was the friends youmade along the way.

SPEAKER_04 (01:39:53):
Usually you don't get that, but seeing like all
the people the music swelling aswell.
And like them seeing because itwasn't there.
Some scenes we didn't seeoriginally.
Yeah, yeah.
Adding that in there adds somuch more, it brings it more to
life of like the connection.

SPEAKER_02 (01:40:07):
Yeah, because you see all like the women making
the food and stuff, and JosephSlim having a good time and
every time's life.
And then he like keeps cuttingto him, shaking with a
cigarette, and he's just like,fuck.
He had everything, and then allin one night, it went away.
Um, so with the music smelling,smell smelling, with the music
swelling, and then uh he takeshis mojo bag off and the music

(01:40:29):
goes away.
He's like, I don't want theprotection anymore.
I'm ready to go myself.
Um, and uses the power he knowswill work to ward off the evil
that's coming.

unknown (01:40:38):
Guns.

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:39):
It's a normal evil.

SPEAKER_02 (01:40:40):
Yeah.
It's like, you know what?
I'm gonna do what I like to do.
Hell yeah.
The power I know shooting badpeople.
So Smoke gathers his weapon andhides as the Klansmen arrive.
He proceeds to shoot them deadwith like uh what type of gun
was it he used at the beginning?
First?

SPEAKER_05 (01:40:55):
Yeah, when he's in the woods.
I'm not really sure they'reWorld War I like sniper rifle,
it looks like because he didn'tdamn that's a big gun.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:02):
And then he's like, you know, I'm fucking picking it
up.
But then he ran out of bulletspretty fast.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:06):
Well, it's a rough like those rifle ones don't
usually hold a lot of rounds.
So and he wasn't that far away.
So I mean, if it was just arifle, you could do a lot.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:14):
Man, when he unburied the Tommy gun, we're in
Tommy Gun era.
Let's go, baby.
Love it.
So he's like shooting everybody,and then like one truck's trying
to get away, and then he goesand like throws a grenade in
there.
Yeah, and then he startsshooting, and I was like, Smoke,
just don't do that.
It's gonna explode.
Hide.

SPEAKER_05 (01:41:31):
I think he maybe Well, there's still the guy in
the back that was shooting athim.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:34):
Yeah, but I figured like he'd probably explode with
the truck.

SPEAKER_04 (01:41:36):
Well, he probably also did it just so they
wouldn't try and throw it outwhile you're being distracted,
being a good one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:41:40):
And I think he's okay with dying.
Yeah, I think a part of this ishis last stand, and he's ready
to go with he's ready to go andbe with people.
Um, so yeah, and then one guygets him right in the stomach.
Um, then he uh yeah, so then hegoes to Hogwood, he's last one.
He's like, You got a cigarette,and he says bad stuff, and then
he's like gives him thecigarette anyways.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:02):
I love it.
It echoes that point home moreof like you're dying, and maybe
you can see the air every ways,still now just full of hate
still.
Yeah, and and then you feel likeif you're a normal person, you
look in that moment and say,God, this is one uh one of my
favorite scenes because you'rejust killing a bunch of KKK
members.

SPEAKER_02 (01:42:19):
Yeah, and then he sits down, smokes a cigarette,
and then he sees Annie and thisnewborn baby.
Which fucking crushes my soul.

SPEAKER_04 (01:42:27):
Makes sense about what you said about how Stack
used to make the cigarettes forhim.
He asks him for one because he'slike, I can't make them make it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:42:34):
Yeah, got the shakes.
Um, and then like Hogwood's justlike, hey, because like he's in
this moment and he's like, I'lllet you hold Annie's like, I'll
let you hold the baby if you getput out that cigarette.
We can't have all that smoke onthe baby.

SPEAKER_00 (01:42:46):
And it's like, uh, names.

SPEAKER_02 (01:42:48):
Um, I love when he then and then uh Hogwood's like,
I'll give you money, and he'slike, You motherfucker.

SPEAKER_05 (01:42:54):
Stop that.
It's like the killing Hitler andGlorious Battle.
He shoots him in the dick andeverything.

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:01):
I loved it because it felt kind of real because
those that's what everyonetalked about how brutal the
Tommy guns were.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43:06):
So I think I watched a documentary on like very
inaccurate, but brutal.

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:11):
Well, it's because it's also nine millimeter
bullets.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43:13):
What was that uh show where it's like uh it would
put like certain like the mafiaversus the Jesse James gang?
Y'all remember that?

SPEAKER_03 (01:43:22):
The Delius Warriors.
Yes, Delius.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43:24):
Because they had it where it was like the gangsters
and they used Tony guns, andit's just like when they shot
him, they're like, This thingisn't going at all where we're
pointing at.

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:32):
It just it just riddles you with bullets.
And yeah, it was such a goodscene seeing him like do it.
It felt like he was because helike you could see the pain on
him of like, he's also a biggerguy, so it's gonna take a lot.
So he probably was in a lot offucking pain, which he fucking
deserved.
Good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43:46):
So then after he kills him, he throws his gun
away, and then he takes his kidin his hands, and it's sad, and
I'm dead inside.

SPEAKER_04 (01:43:54):
Anyone else a little shocked that she's just gotta
boob out feeding the baby?
Wasn't expecting that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:43:58):
It's very maternal.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43:59):
I know, but it was also just it was a memory that
he loved, is like, oh I have mywife and the baby, and she's
taking care of the baby, andit's just like a beautiful
moment for him.

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:10):
Seeing it more as like a memory, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I just saw it like she's aghost type of thing, but seeing
it more as like a memory anddoing it.

SPEAKER_05 (01:44:18):
Ghost milk.

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:20):
Or's Patrick Swayze.

SPEAKER_02 (01:44:21):
Uh so Sammy returns to the church, but he refuses to
give up music despite hisfather's pleas.
He ends up driving north with aguitar still in his hand, then
cuts to Chicago 1992, where wesee an older Sammy playing
music.
And then during the credits,Sammy, uh played by a buddy guy
who's like a popular uh DeltaBlues singer, is shown as an
elderly blues musician in 1992.

(01:44:44):
After a performance, he is foundby Stack and Mary.
Love it, because like a bouncercomes in and is like, hey,
someone says they'll pay$200 ifthey could come in.
Is that okay?
And he's like, Yeah, and then hewalks out, and then the creaking
of the door, the music's kind ofthe horror music's coming up,
and then they pop out, and we'relike, Oh no, the two hottest
people in the world just walkedin the room.
In the 90s fifths, sick.

(01:45:05):
I was like, they are the coolestpeople to ever walk in a room
right there.
Um, so they greet him warmlywith Stack saying that smoke
couldn't kill him and orderedhim to stay away from Sammy to
let him live out his life.
Stack senses that Sammy doesn'thave long left because he's
like, you're gonna die.
And offers to turn him so he canstay around longer and keep

(01:45:26):
playing music.
But Sammy says he has seenenough of the world and is ready
to go on his own terms.
Sammy plays one last song forStack and Mary on the guitar
from that night, because it'slike the same guitar.
Um, before they leave, he givesSammy a hug.
Sammy says that he still hasnightmares from that night, but
the time before the sun wentdown was the best day of his
life.
And then Stack agrees, saying itwas the last time he saw his

(01:45:47):
brother and the sun, and it'sthe last time he truly felt
free.
And then we cut to Sammy ridingin the back of a car with smoke
and stack, and I'm like, Well,we can't leave the theater until
I my eyes dry up a little bit.
And then the credits happen,then we get a post-credit scene
of Sammy seeing this littlelight of mine, the that is

(01:46:10):
sinners.
Who wants to start with what thepoint of the movie is?
If y'all feel more comfortable,I can do it because I have it
written down in front of me.

SPEAKER_05 (01:46:17):
Go for it, man.

SPEAKER_02 (01:46:18):
So I think there's kind of three possible points.
This is all just based on what Ithought when watching the movie,
what it was kind of about.
So, um first point I thought howpeople over the course of
humanity have stolen music andculture from each other without
understanding it and seeing whyit's important to people who
sing it.
Like when Delta Slim told thisstory about rice, and then the
hurt is so bad that he just wentstraight into the blues.

(01:46:41):
Like um the Breakfast Cup glass.
I don't know.
I know there's always been likevideos of Charlemagne kind of
talking to like white rappers.
And I remember it was likepost-Malone.
I think he was like, Do you evenknow like where the music comes
from and like like everythingbehind it?
Because he's like, you know,stuff like that.
Um, so I think that was kind ofit.
Where if like everybody startsusing everybody's stuff and

(01:47:03):
don't know where it means whatit means and where it comes
from, kind of like uh sterilizesit a little bit and stuff like
that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:47:09):
So like what uh Stack said, he's like, I don't
like the electric stuff, it'snot real.
And what he I was like, I getwhat he's saying because when
you're doing it, it's like yousaid, if it's sterilized, you
don't feel that true meaning ofit anymore.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:20):
Like dilute it.
Yeah, yeah.
And another point, becausethere's obviously a lot of like
religious stuff in this, andthat Christianity tries to
sanitize other cultures and washaway where people come from, and
then say that music or yourculture is wrong, um, and to
turn from it, kind of like thewhat the preacher was saying
there.

SPEAKER_05 (01:47:38):
And like everybody was wearing white.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:47:40):
Also think about like uh church music and
everything like that.
That's black culture.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:45):
Yeah.
That's why we have fire or thechoirs and stuff that they are.
And then the third one, thefreedom is when you and the
people you love are all having agood time together and
experiencing life.
When you find that thing youlove, you can always feel free.
And you know, obviously theydidn't have to worry about
anybody coming in and making abig fuss that they were having
fun and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:03):
Those are kind of the three points I had.
Did anybody else have anythingelse?

SPEAKER_05 (01:48:08):
Yeah, sure.
Um Vampires bad.
It kind of reminds me of the theterm sundown towns.
Where like and the vampires kindof fit into that because they
were kind of forced out of thesunlight.

SPEAKER_01 (01:48:25):
Oh, gotcha, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 (01:48:27):
And they're you know, and that's like all the
bigotry and hatred uh just forcethem.
I don't know, it's just it's uhhorrible time in history.

SPEAKER_04 (01:48:40):
Yeah.
Funny how you could be aman-eating vampire and you're
the one of the less racistpersons in this film.

SPEAKER_02 (01:48:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:48:47):
Yeah, exactly.
Alright, well if nobody's gotanything else, we can move to
our next category.
I mean, as I was watching itwith my wife, I was like, I'm
like how he chose, you know,Irish, because Irish, you know,
culture and black culture arekind of one of the same, you
know, both slaves treated rough.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:06):
Yeah, because when they came over like into
America, they were not treatedvery well either.

SPEAKER_03 (01:49:10):
They're treated well, yeah.
In their music, I mean they talkabout you know pain and stuff
like that.
And it's a lot of parallels.

SPEAKER_04 (01:49:18):
Yeah.
It shows that at like I don'tknow, it's the whole everyone
has suffered at some point.
It's uh because they alwaysbring up like, well, the Irish
suffer too.
When people talk about likeblack suffering, it's like,
yeah, but that's not a thinganymore.
It's been gone for a long timeand there's still this.
Like you the everyone just triesto ignore past stuff that's like

(01:49:39):
we should be coming together inthat moment, not trying to say,
Well, I had this as well.
It should be a sympathy, not ofwell, I don't care.
I've had it as well, we've hadit as well, type of thing.
Yeah.
Uh I think my main thing is uhpoke go punch your local KKK
member Nazi.

SPEAKER_05 (01:49:54):
Yay.
I think we can all agree.
Uh water bottle.

SPEAKER_02 (01:50:00):
Oh.
So we're gonna hit to our nextcategory: the good, the bad, the
ugly, the fine.
It's where we discuss the goodof the film.
It could be a scene, the acting,directing, whatever.
The bad, something we didn'tlike.
It's kind of the same as good,but the opposite.
Don't know why I'm explaining itlike this.
So the ugly, something thatdidn't age well, the fine,
something that did age well.
I can kick us off for the good,the entire dang thing.

(01:50:24):
Acting, directing, music,writing, kind of all crushed it.
Uh it is a very how do I saykind of so you know, when people
say prestigious movies, it'skind of like snooty people
talking about prestigiousmovies, right?
Brian Kugler was able to uhmerge the prestige and the kind
of like uh popcorn flick all inone, and he did it very

(01:50:47):
successfully, I feel like.

SPEAKER_05 (01:50:48):
Hell yeah, man.
What I thought was really goodwas the uh the good versus evil
kind of represented was like theevil was able to turn this
community against itself withthe vampirism.
But like him, but they wereweak.
Like the the bigotry and thehatred of the people like the
KKK guys, they're weak as fuckbecause he killed them all.

(01:51:09):
Yeah.
Just one guy.
But like the only way that theygot taken out was like being
turned against each other.

SPEAKER_01 (01:51:16):
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Anybody else got it good?

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:19):
Uh yeah, I like uh Remic.
I like a villain I can getbehind.
Yeah.
And like he makes when they'reall at that door, he's like, you
know, gimme Sammy, stuff likethat.
Sammy's about to walk out, givehimself up.
Yeah.
And then, you know, and thatsame scene, Stat comes up, he's

(01:51:39):
like, I'm not doing this shitwithout you.
Yeah.
Smoke almost walks out.
Yeah.
I'm like, man, like he's makingit very hard not to be a vampire
because you would be free andyou could have the upper hand on
all these KKK and all that.
Like, yeah, y'all could justtake over and so Rimic,
definitely good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:51:58):
Yeah, it's uh it's I think that's what pushes this
movie over the top.
Yes.
Is uh having a good villainwhere you actually are kind of
like, I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (01:52:07):
You could you could leave forever.
You can very live forever.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:10):
Yeah, he's just trying to think of wow.
I think if there was a way wherehe could be like, How about
this?
I can't control y'all, y'alldon't have any of my stuff.
Just let me feel Sammy's power,and like, hey, maybe every once
in a while Sammy comes up, playsme a song, and then all my
answers just come up.

SPEAKER_04 (01:52:25):
But it was also like his reasoning is like he wants
to see because he can't, he'she's like, I can't die, I don't
want to kill myself.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:30):
So Yeah, and um like I was kind of reading like where
the uh because whenever he sayslike oh the people came and
stole my father's land, that waslike in the 1300s, so he hasn't
seen anybody from his time sincethe 1300s.
And then who knows how long he'sbeen in America.
I mean, I guess a while, but youknow.

SPEAKER_04 (01:52:46):
I say my good is what Ryan Kugler apparently got
to do with the rights of thefilm.
It's like uh is the first likein the industry, it's that he
gets the full rights.
The studio cannot make movieswithout his permission.
Because usually the studio getsto hold the rights and choose to
that's why sometimes like thedirector could be like all back
in the day, it used to beone-off movies, and then all of
them we get like a sequel thatdidn't seem to like how movies

(01:53:08):
used to feel like they used towrap up, then we get a sequel
that kind of backtracks on somestuff and takes it down because
that's the studio's like we wantto make more because it made so
much money, and instead ofleaving things as is, he has
full control to be like, if Iwant to do it, I have the full
say.
So if I ever actually want tocome back to it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:53:23):
That's great, Dakota, because that was gonna
be in my fine.
Something that I aged well.
That's perfect.
Cool.
Um, so we're gonna hit the bad.
Um, I put nothing and I willfight you.

SPEAKER_04 (01:53:35):
I have just it's nothing with it.
It's just with my secondrewatch.
It's a little bit of some of thechoreography, and then like when
I went back and they when thevampires come into the barn.
One at a time.

SPEAKER_02 (01:53:46):
The like coming at the end of the day, just a
little bit of overwhelming onthem.
They did one at a time.

SPEAKER_04 (01:53:49):
Kind of not that.
It was more of just like I waswatching, I was like, wait, who
the hell is this dude that justrandomly got bit?
I was like, where did you comefrom?

SPEAKER_03 (01:53:56):
That was just my little bit of a some of the good
people that were yeah, that wasthat was it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:54:00):
Um you can see them in the scenes prior, just kind
of walking around in thebackground and stuff.

SPEAKER_04 (01:54:04):
But it wasn't enough to show.
I want if we just had a littlebit more showing them, and then
Jason cleared up one of myfaults was like, How did how did
smoke get up behind him just tostab him?
And then it made sense thatthey're all like sitting there,
yeah, got a silver disc in theirbrain.

SPEAKER_02 (01:54:17):
Yep.

SPEAKER_04 (01:54:18):
Anybody else got a bad?
Something they didn't like?

SPEAKER_05 (01:54:21):
Not really.

SPEAKER_04 (01:54:22):
Uh I I have a bad.
The bad is fuck you, WarnerBrothers, for what you're gonna
do and make it we're probablynever a good movie like this
again.

SPEAKER_03 (01:54:31):
We might.
You don't know that we might saywhat's the last good Netflix
movie you watch?

SPEAKER_04 (01:54:35):
I'm just gonna go.
What's the last good Netflixmovie you watch?
Netflix is buying WarnerBrothers?

SPEAKER_02 (01:54:38):
Uh well, maybe about be Paramount now.
Now name a good Paramount moviethat's come out.
I haven't seen Wake Up Dead Man,but I'm assuming that's gonna be
good.
It's got good reviews.
Oh, the Knives Out.
Knives Out uh third movie.
Don't get me started on callingit a knives out story.

SPEAKER_03 (01:54:50):
I'd say uh a bad of mine.
I don't really like Pearline.
Really?
Really?
I don't like Pearlin.

SPEAKER_04 (01:54:54):
I could I don't like I don't have a reason for it,
but I could see why you couldsay it.
Like is it because she's likeyou could clearly tell, like,
she's like, I'm married, andit's like you're married and
you're doing all this.

SPEAKER_03 (01:55:04):
Yeah, and it's that and like the whole garlic thing.
Oh, yeah, that's it.
Sammy was I mean, it maybe it'spushing that button.

SPEAKER_02 (01:55:14):
I mean, you bitch.
Very valid point.
I don't know.
I guess I like Perline.
Is her song just like hersinging, she was great at
singing that song.

SPEAKER_04 (01:55:23):
She was I guess she's a bit hypocritical thing,
I guess.
When I watch it again, I waslike, eat the fucking garlic.
Yeah, dude.
When he pulled the gun out, Iwas like, I completely
understand.
She can't eat damn garlic.
Everyone else doing it, noproblem.

SPEAKER_02 (01:55:38):
Oh, you give me some mayo, I'll be like, I don't
know, just shoot me.
I'm not gonna give you garlic,probably do the same thing.
The next is the ugly somethingthat didn't age well.
I put racism and CGI fire.
Hogwood.
What part well some of the CGIfire was still good.
Yeah, the so when I because whenI took notes I watched it on HBO

(01:55:59):
Max, whenever I watched it uhlater that day with Natalie, the
4K just made the fire look alittle bit worse than when it
was on streaming.
So I will see Which you kind ofalready talked talked to me
about that earlier.

SPEAKER_04 (01:56:10):
Apparently that can be some settings on if you're
watching were you watching thestreaming or the ph physical
one?
I mean, I watched both.
Okay, so that can affect itbecause I watched it physical
and I thought the fire lookedgreat, but it also affects how
bright your room is, which canaffect the quality.

SPEAKER_02 (01:56:25):
I don't know.
Is this one of those thingswhere whenever they're kind of
all catching on fire andcrawling around, I was like, you
know, CGI fires is hard to doand look authentic, and it's one
of those things that I canalways just be like CGI.

unknown (01:56:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:56:40):
Um but yeah, then all that's right.

SPEAKER_05 (01:56:42):
Why didn't they just I'll with Dakota a little bit,
like, why didn't they all justrun inside when the sun was
coming up?

SPEAKER_04 (01:56:47):
But they were Yeah, that that was I guess that was
my other uh part is that becausethe sun was rising so quickly
and they got stabbed, they gotsmacked, and he was slowly and
they're feeling it, and the sunluckily was coming up at that
time.
So sun came out quick.

SPEAKER_02 (01:57:04):
Yeah, well, as we saw, like Renakes not the best
till of time, apparently,because whenever we first
introduce him, he's like flyingin the air right when the sun's
about to come up.
Or go where go down.
Well, well, it's actually, Iguess that's all happening
during the day.
So, like, how long was heoutside when he was like flying
in the air?

SPEAKER_04 (01:57:19):
Well, they could have hunted him down and were
like he was trying to run, hidein the shadows as best he could.

SPEAKER_02 (01:57:23):
Because it seemed like an open field and the sun
was up and he was just flying inthe air.
Maybe maybe he had like reallygood SPF.
Just like Blade.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (01:57:33):
That guy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:57:34):
So for the fine, something that aged well.
IR, you kind of already said alittle bit of what I said, but I
mean, just Ryan Kugler.
Jeez, man.
Since Fruitville Station, bangerafter banger, except Wakanda
Forever, that looked like abangers, maybe.

SPEAKER_04 (01:57:50):
I don't blame him for that.
That's just what happens whenyou're with Marvel.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:57:52):
It's like, hey, throw in 50,000 things.

SPEAKER_04 (01:57:55):
Well, it's like apparently like Pedro Pascal,
great actor, and the two otherpeople that they had in there.
I don't really know the actressthat well, but uh dude from
Stranger Things and then a guyfrom the Bills.
Talking about Fantastic Four.
Just saying like the Marvelthing, you can have these great
people, but Marvel will stilltake you down.

SPEAKER_05 (01:58:12):
I I think those rat ass fucking blues scenes.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:58:17):
I think those are always a satisfying.
Because I I I used to sleep onblues.
I'm like, well, now this movie'slike, damn, okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:58:23):
It kind of opens your mind of like uh
understanding the appreciation.
And when you can get someone whodoes it really well, it's and
they emphasize it more insteadof it being like a background,
it feels like it's a main partof the story, and they explain
it in such a way that makes youhave that deeper appreciation.
Yep.

SPEAKER_01 (01:58:37):
Yep.
Crushed it.
Great movie.
Amazing.
Some would say 10 out of 10.
Like me.

SPEAKER_02 (01:58:45):
Oh it's oh, yeah, definitely.
Oh, wait, I do have one ugly,right?
Everybody's coming out withtheir fucking top 10 list and
like top 25 for like best moviesof the year.
Cinners being left out wheneverybody said it was already
the best movie of the year, likehalfway through the year, and
now it's starting to be likelike I was looking at one list,
they had it in like number 20,and they put a bunch of movies.
I was like, I've seen those.

(01:59:05):
Out of this year, 20 movies?
Yeah.
What I could not tell you 20movies this year that have like
been some people, this is liketheir job to watch movies and
stuff.
So, you know, they have to yourjob.

SPEAKER_04 (01:59:15):
You should really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:59:16):
And you also have to remember, like, all the like the
great Oscar movies are about tocome out, those are getting seen
by people who make these listsat like Sundance Film Festival,
and but they won't come outuntil like December, January,
and February before the Oscars,so they can be in consideration.
It's a problem I have with ourstudio system.
If you want us to watch yourdamn Oscar movies, make them

(01:59:37):
come out, you know, earlier inthe year.
But then they don't want to dothat because then people forget
about it and all these old Oscarwatchers.

SPEAKER_04 (01:59:45):
No, no, you're you're emphasizing wrong.
The people who vote on theOscars also didn't have to watch
them until recently.
And they still are doing it onour system.
So they probably could not havewatched it as well.

SPEAKER_02 (01:59:54):
Well, you also kind of gotta think these people are
all filmmakers and they're allsuper busy making movies, and
it's like, how are we supposedto watch two?
Hundred movies for the Oscars.
I don't.
Just watch the few that you canand make your picks.
And also the Oscars.
It's awards, they're fakeawards.
None of it matters.
Just make your good movie andlet us watch it.
That's all I'm asking.
Um cool.
I don't remember why I said allthat.

(02:00:15):
Oh, that was the ugly.

SPEAKER_00 (02:00:16):
So we're gonna hit our next category.
Double features.
What do we recommend a movie togo alongside this movie?
Are you still doing sorry tobother you?
No, I figured out uh somethingelse.
Alright.
Who wants to go first?
Then I will.
So I actually have two movies,right?

SPEAKER_04 (02:00:31):
I want you to first.
I want to hear what you got.
Um me?
Well, what you said before.
I want to I'm curious about it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00:36):
Well, I can't speak too much on it because you know
he hasn't finished it.
It's episode six and seven ofWelcome to Dairy.

SPEAKER_04 (02:00:42):
Oh, okay.
Well, I mean, that's good enoughfor me to kind of interpret it.
Um, six and seven.
I can kind of see what you'retalking about there.
Six, seven, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 (02:00:54):
We are all millennials and we don't get it.

SPEAKER_06 (02:00:58):
Cool.

SPEAKER_02 (02:00:58):
I mean, everyone has turned off.

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:01):
I didn't even realize it.

SPEAKER_02 (02:01:04):
Sorry for the ones that hate that shit.
I don't really um yes.
So I hate it, but I still do it.
I actually got uh two films thatI recommend.
Uh one is Near Dark.
Um, it is a vampire moviedirected by Catherine Bigelow,
who did uh Hurt Locker movieslike that.
Um it's a small town.

SPEAKER_04 (02:01:24):
Is that a female sorry?

SPEAKER_02 (02:01:25):
Yeah, Catherine Bigelow.

SPEAKER_04 (02:01:26):
Well, that's interesting.
I didn't know that for a HurtLocker.
That's really Yeah, she won thatshe won the Oscar.

SPEAKER_02 (02:01:31):
Yeah.
It was like a big deal becausealso Avatar was nominated the
same year.
There uh James Cameron andCatherine Bigelow were like best
director.
They used to be married.
So it was very like ah fun.
Um so the movie's about a smalltown farmer's son reluctantly
joins a traveling group ofvampires after he is bitten by a
beautiful drifter.

(02:01:51):
This has Bill Paxton in it.

SPEAKER_04 (02:01:54):
There is a scene um someone, right?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:01:58):
Here's the thing there is one scene with Bill
Paxton that is so good.
It is awesome.
He is overacting like he's doesin a lot of his movies around
the 90s and stuff, and it's sogood.
You could just go and watch thatscene, just look up the Bill
Paxton scene from Near Dark, andit's so good.
Um, but yeah, it's one ofCatherine Bigelow's, I think
it's her first movie, and it'skind of considered one of the

(02:02:19):
best uh vampire movies ever.

SPEAKER_04 (02:02:20):
I would have to watch it, but it's only a
freaking shudder.

SPEAKER_02 (02:02:23):
Yeah.
And so my next one is because Ihad one that's more of like a
vampire movie, and then thisnext one's kind of like a very
social commentary movie, so Ikind of split them apart.
It's called Sorry to Bother You.
It is a batshit film.
It's hilarious, it's great.
It's kind of um it's got acannibal in it.
It's like a real life cannibal.
It's very surrealist, it's likea satire on anti-black racism,

(02:02:46):
class oppression, and the moralcomp compromise inherited in
modern capitalism.
It's directed by Boots Riley,which I don't know if y'all know
him.
He's like a musician.
Uh the film uses dark comedy andabsurd plot twists to critique
corporate exploitation uhexploitation and call for work
as an organization and stufflike that.
It's great.
Nice, it's awesome.
And I love when he's like,they're like, all right, uh,

(02:03:07):
what's his name?
Saul.
The guy in Saul.

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:10):
Um which one?
Uh uh Tobin Bell?
No.
Um, what's his name?
Costus Mandalore.
No.
What are you talking about?
Which one?
Give her the what is this?
Which one?

SPEAKER_04 (02:03:22):
There's only like 10 of them.

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:24):
The first one.
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (02:03:25):
Danny Glover.
Danny Glover!

SPEAKER_06 (02:03:29):
You can't remember Danny Glover?

SPEAKER_02 (02:03:31):
But uh Danny Glover's in it, and like, you
know, they're working at like atelemarketing thing, and he's
like, and he try like KeithStanfield's in it, and he tries
his first uh call.
And he's like, no, you gotta puton your white voice.
And he's like, um, hello, sir.
I mean, it's so true.
And if you like horses, you'lllike the movie.

(02:03:52):
And it it also has um what's hisname in True Blood?
Blonde haired guy, really tall.
Skarsgard?
Skarsgard's in it, yeah.
Damn.

SPEAKER_04 (02:03:59):
What's I'm blanking on everything.
Oh, good.
Can you remember the whiteperson's last name, but he can't
remember the distinguished actorDavid Glover.

SPEAKER_02 (02:04:08):
I said I didn't know him.
He's the blonde guy in TrueBloods.
That's what I said he is.

SPEAKER_04 (02:04:11):
But you named something he was in.
You was the last time youwatched True Blood?

SPEAKER_02 (02:04:14):
I said Saul.
He said Saul.
I should have said LethalWeapon.
There you go.
That was Devin.
But I saw Devin, he's my Saulguy.

SPEAKER_04 (02:04:22):
Oh, that's that you saw Devin.
That's why you thought that'sthe first one.

SPEAKER_02 (02:04:24):
All right, so I said my double feature.
Devin has said his doublefeature.
Now we have Jason in Dakota.
Who wants to go first?

SPEAKER_05 (02:04:31):
Dakota, uh, the animated Castlevania series of
rules.
I don't know.
Damn.
That's good.

SPEAKER_03 (02:04:36):
I think it went bad, but that first season was really
good.

SPEAKER_04 (02:04:39):
It's good.
Like, and now it does get morebecause Shane watched it and he
didn't like it after it becausehe liked the whole thing, like
they were really focusing on Godand like what Dracula was doing.
I told him, like, if you couldwatch after it, it's you mean
Alocord?
No, no, no.
He's a son.

SPEAKER_05 (02:04:57):
Idiot.

SPEAKER_02 (02:05:00):
Yeah, but it's Dracula spelled backwards.
I know, but that's why and he'slike one of the villains in the
other games.
Yeah, there's a million ofthose, but it's just gonna put
it there.
I didn't say it was I just wasmaking a joke.
I mean a time chair.

SPEAKER_04 (02:05:18):
You got the season the action in it's really good.
And then apparently also randomtopics Ragnarok's back.

SPEAKER_03 (02:05:24):
I know I need to watch it.

SPEAKER_04 (02:05:26):
What's yours, Dakota?
So I have we talked about itseveral times and it made me
realize it.
Midnight Mass.

SPEAKER_03 (02:05:32):
Yeah, the movie's cool.
Ugh, the use of ice that show.

SPEAKER_04 (02:05:35):
Yeah, it's uh it's the same guy who did uh Haunting
a Hill House.

SPEAKER_03 (02:05:38):
Yeah, I liked Hill House, and I just the second one
I didn't like.
Did you not like Haunting theHills?
I didn't like that.
Yeah, I didn't really watch it.
It wasn't as good.
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 (02:05:47):
Haunting a Hill House and Midnight Mass.
Those are his two best things.
Midnight Mass is amazing.
I liked House of Usher of Houseof Usher.
We fell out of watching.
The monkey scene?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:05:56):
The last thing we saw was like the acid The Red
Woman.
I think that scene.
Is that what that's from?
The House of Usher, Raymond.

SPEAKER_02 (02:06:02):
Um it's really good.
I mean, he's great withdialogue, he's great with
directing.

SPEAKER_04 (02:06:05):
I think the problem was that when we were trying to
watch it, it was when I had likethe 720p of Netflix, and it was
very hard to watch that.
Especially in dark scenes, butwe should try and get back to
it.

SPEAKER_02 (02:06:15):
Definitely watch Men Not Mask be like vampire stuff.
It's great.
A lot of monologues.
So you know that uh you gottayou gotta like the writing and
the acting.
Um the best one is the preacherguy.
He is fantastic.
He is someone really good.
God, and the guy, uh oh man, theboat scene.
Oh man, so good.

(02:06:35):
Hey guys, that's the end ofSinners.
We did it.
We concluded our firstfour-person podcast.
So I was thinking we got onemore episode to the end of the
year.
Um I was like, what's a movie,what's a good movie that kind of
ends on New Year's Eve?
And I was like, oh shit.
When Harry met Sally.
What?

SPEAKER_05 (02:06:54):
It's probably like I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_02 (02:06:56):
It's like it's one of my favorite rom coms.

SPEAKER_04 (02:06:58):
So I don't do rom-coms just because they're so
always very cliche.
I watched that one, love it.
Is my favorite rom com movie.

SPEAKER_05 (02:07:06):
Is that the movie that she says I'll or she have a
season?
It's so good.

SPEAKER_02 (02:07:11):
It's because of Billy Crystal and his like he
feels like a genuine person.
And Matt Ryan, they're kind of aperfect couple, but there's also
it uh has Carrie Fisher and likethe person that she acts beside.
It's there's just so many goodscenes I can't wait to talk
about.
Uh no, she's not, not in thisone.
Uh, but it's directed by RobReiner.
Uh he did like Stand By Me.
Is he wearing a golden bikini?

(02:07:31):
Something like that.
Huh?
Nothing.

SPEAKER_04 (02:07:34):
Jesse will wear a golden bikini for you when
you're important.

SPEAKER_02 (02:07:38):
And I thought it'd be a prominent movie also to do
because he uh he directed ThisIs Spinal Tap and This Is Spinal
Tap 2 is out on HBO Max.

SPEAKER_05 (02:07:46):
We'll start it up to 11.

SPEAKER_02 (02:07:47):
Yeah.
So join us next week for that.
Devin Dakota, thank you forjoining us.
Yes, sir.
This has been a very uh doubleJ, double D uh podcast.
Yeah.
Um so join us next week for whenHarry Met Sally.
If you'd like to leave us areview, you should do that.

(02:08:07):
We need more of those.
Also, leave us some fan mail.
I already told you earlier, butthe link is in the top of the
description, and at the bottomof the description is our Gmail.
We recommend mailbag atgmail.com.
So do that.
Uh if you're into social mediaand you want to follow accounts
that don't post anything, pleasefollow us on the social media.
Um and thank you, Joey Prosser,for our intro and outro music.

(02:08:30):
You can find him on X at Mr.
Prosser.
I'm pretty Joey Prosser.
Jesus, I've lost my mouth here.
I don't know what I'm saying.
Also lost my brain.
Anyways, this has been the WeRecommend Podcast.
I'm Jesse.
I'm Jason.
Devin.
I'm Dakota.
Um, Vampirism, all right.
Bye.

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