The Iron Giant

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When a mysterious metal giant crashes near a small Maine town during the height of Cold War paranoia, nine-year-old Hogarth Hughes discovers something extraordinary – a robot with the soul of a gentle giant. Their unlikely friendship forms the beating heart of Brad Bird's masterpiece, The Iron Giant.
 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the we Recommend Podcast, a movie
podcast where every week, werecommend a movie for you to
watch.
Then come back here and listento us discuss.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason.
It's bad to kill.
Guns kill, and you don't haveto be a gun.
You are what you choose to be,because this week we recommend
the Iron Giant.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I want to be a gun, no.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
This movie should be watched in the White House.
That's fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh man, I got two of my kids two out of three, ain't
bad Hell, yeah To watch thismovie with me, they love it,
they cry.
No, they didn't cry, but theyloved it.
They cry no, they didn't cry,but they loved it.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, they're emotional stunted watched this
yesterday 8am my youngest.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
My youngest was yeah, I was my youngest, was watching
it and like, whenever hebecomes the badass killing
machine, I was like, yeah,killing machine.
She was like no, daddy no, it'ssad.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm like, oh yeah, oh yeah, I should be teaching my
kids this.
This is bad.
They should know that this isbad.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I was like oh sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Dad, you're missing the point of the movie.
I'm so young, I shouldn't haveto tell you this.
Holy shit, when he morphs ohit's rad, yes, it's everything
you want and everything youdon't want at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's excruciating it's everything Mr Mansley
wanted?

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I think yeah it's like, finally I can cause world
destruction.
Let me kill myself to kill thisthing.
Hell yeah, superman.
This is like I love thisMansley man.
It's just.
It says so much about todaywith that guy.
It's like so much like he'sjust so scared of anything.

(01:52):
It's just what he doesn't know,that he just wants to kill it.
It's like he's so paranoid andcrazy he just wants to kill.
Instead of just hey, robot, you, what are we thinking?
What are we thinking?
It?
Instead of just hey, robot,what are we thinking?
What are we thinking?
It's like, even if they justwere like hey, what if we tried
to see if we can deprogram hisself-defense thing?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
right, or hey, let's use him.
He's got a lot of room forbranding.
Yeah, we could just make him aface of America, right, just
like brought to you by Meta.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Meta Put like a giant oculus sign on it.
It's like they would obviouslyput very like some sort of
technology that could make itwhere you could put your oculus
on and then you could be insidethe robot and see what he's
doing at all times.
Yeah, that sounds pretty cool.
Eating scrap metal oh cool, wemade the iron giant cool.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
We've already commercialized it.
Yeah, whoa no.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
So what makes this movie so good for you?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
A boy and his robot.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Right, because I was thinking this wasn't even that
big of a movie to me as a kid,like I watched it, but it's
nothing that I thought was likespectacular, but as an adult
like Masterpiece.
Five out of five.
Yeah, send it to the moon, it'sso good.
Show the aliens.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
When I told everyone we were going to turn it on
Ashley, she got upset, because Iremember thinking that too, it
was like this movie made me soupset as a kid.
Yeah, I just didn't want to besad.
But then, but like I said youknow what, it's probably not as
sad as you think it is, becauseshe used to think that fern

(03:32):
gully was the saddest fuckingmovie that she'd ever seen in
her life, but it had been 30years yeah, so is it not that
sad?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
it's really not.
She's like don't think I'veever seen Fern Gully.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
She's like before we turned it on.
She's like kids brace yourselffor the sadness.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Your heart is going to get ripped out and stabbed.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, exactly, but we got almost all the way through
Fern Gully.
We're like what part are you?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
talking about this movie is not sad at all, isn't
it just a really cheesy cartoon,fern Gully.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, yeah, because I was thinking I'm sure I've seen
some of it, but I don'tremember anything.
That would be like.
Maybe as a child it might makeyou cry.
Yeah, as a kid, because they'relike destroying the rainforest,
you know, yeah, and they'retrying to save the rainforest.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
But like kids nowadays love that.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
But back then it's like kill that rainforest.
In the same time, there wasalso, like the commercials,
coming on with like the starvedchildren.
So you can donate 30 cents aday to save these kids?
Yeah, and then, like we foundout later that they were just
taking the money and not givingit to starving children.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
So yeah, obviously that's why you never give money
to anything that you see on tv.
Money to charity ever yeah, atleast the ones that get
sponsored on tv sarah mclaughlin.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Nothing against sarah I.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
The problem with Ferngully is like, yeah, cut
down those rainforests.
We got to build some cell phonetires so we can watch TikToks.
I have to watch TikToks about.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Iron Giant.
I can watch Ferngully.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I can watch Ferngully for a minute long on TikTok.
Of course, burn down thatrainforest.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
No, that's sad, jesse .
Yeah, I know I think this, butit was awesome.
We all found out that it wasawesome when we turned it on.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's just there's something about him, just I
don't know.
It's like you are what youchoose to be, thing man.
When it's like starting to revup to where he's when he says
goodbye.
When he fucking says goodbye,it's like no, because you can
pretty much put in placewhatever, whatever sad things in
your heart.

(05:30):
You can put it onto the IronGiant because it's not a real
object, so you could put like afamily member, a friend, a pet,
you could all put it on the IronGiant.
And then when he says goodbye,it's like fuck, oh no, that
person went away from me.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
That's why everyone was okay.
They were like ready to die.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, and also I mean the line of like it's bad to
kill but it's not bad to die.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, Shit dude.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Every kid should watch this movie.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
It teaches you so much, and it's way better than
Bambi.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, as far as teaching that lesson, I haven't
seen bambi in so long, I don'tknow is.
Was that ever even a good movie?
I've never.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I haven't seen it since I was a child.
The part with all the fire isfucking rad yeah, I love animals
in distress.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's so cool and metal, right yeah like.
I was kind of thinking.
I was like man, you know, likemillennials and shit, we get so
much stuff for being kind ofsoft and like we need our safe
places.
It's because of movies likethis.
They're just like hey, likedon't kill, like be cool, be

(06:42):
chill.
And it's just like that's whyall millennials are like bro, I
don't know, we're just chill,just don't hurt me man.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Just let me have a good time and do what I want.
Don't taste me, bro.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's like why can't we all just like be cool and
just, we can be a weird irongiant if we want to.
I don't know, that's what Itake away.
Fine, yeah, it's totally cool.
So, um, should we talk aboutbrad bird for a little bit?
Yeah, who's that?
Yeah, so that's the director ofthis movie.
Um, do you want to hear some ofhis other credits?
So, a little movie called Idon't know the incredibles nice,

(07:15):
you know ratatouille.
What incredibles?
2?
That's awesome.
Or, as I like to call itIncredible, incredible Raccoon,
the Incredibles 2.
And then Mission Impossible,ghost Protocol, my second
favorite, mission Impossiblemovie.
That's the one where he's on thebuilding in, like Dubai or
Saudi Arabia, whichever, the onethat has a huge, tall building,

(07:37):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I've seen it.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
He like suction cups onto it with these like little
cool ass things that he alwaysmakes and then like one falls
and he's like, oh no, missionImpossible 2 is rad.
It has like some of the bestlike set pieces in that.
But then so, yeah.
So he went Iron Giant, firstmovie.
He did some Simpsons and like Idon't know if you remember this
TV series from the 80s, it'scalled Amazing Stories.

(07:59):
It was a Spielberg thing.
It was just like, hey, look atthese wild amazing stories.
I don't remember that's how he.
It was a Spielberg thing.
It was just like, hey, look atthese wild amazing stories.
I don't remember that's how hegot a start.
And then he did Iron Giant.
He started off making amasterpiece.
He also used to be an animator,so, and he's a voice actor.
So I thought you were going tosay Capital Critters and then I
would have been in.
I don't even know what you meanby that.

(08:20):
So in 99, he does Iron Giant.
Then he goes 2004 until he getsthe Incredibles done.
And then 2007, ratatouille,2011,.
Mission Impossible Takes a dipwith Tomorrowland.
Tomorrowland's meh, it's verymeh.
It was just like Disney's like,hey, do this, so people come to
our theme parks and people arelike we don't know what

(08:41):
Tomorrowland is.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Disney Tomorrowland kind of sucks.
Yeah, that's essentially whateverybody's reaction was.
Why are you doing?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Tomorrowland it's like the people of the 40s
version of what we were supposedto be living like now.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, and they're like, hey, let's grow up and
make sure we never get thishappening.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Let's just make TVs big.
Well, I guess Walt Disney'svision for the future was that
everyone would be nice to eachother.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
That's not exactly how it turned out.
That's weird, that never inhistory has that happened, so
why should we start now?
Well, that's the magic ofDisney yeah, so that was 2015,
tomorrowland and then 2018.
He does the Incredibles 2 andhe hasn't done a movie since.
He's got a movie called 1906.
Don't know much about it and amovie called Ray Gunn with two
N's.
Never heard of it, never heardthat.
So I'm super looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
that Sounds like a guy named Ray.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
This guy freaking rules.
I wish he did man.
I just wish after GhostProtocol he did a different live
action movie.
Because when I watched GhostProtocol I was like holy crap,
who who did this movie?
This is my favorite because atthat point it was my favorite
Mission Impossible and I waslike the Ratatouille.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I did this.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I have to know more.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Ratatouille is amazing, yeah, and the ride at
Disney is really cool.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I mean the only.
I love the Incredibles, butthey don't really hit me
emotionally.
I love the Incredibles, but manwhen Ratatouille, when it's
gearing up to be like hey, thisfood critic's about to eat
something that's going to makeyou cry, brother, and then I'm
like, oh no, things that makeyou think of the past.
I'm heartbroken.

(10:14):
It's great.
So let's see Just a few morethings, movie's kind of just ET,
huh.
Thing comes from space.
It's lost there.
Kid finds it, takes it to hishouse.
It's rummaging through Kid'strying to make sure it doesn't
the parents doesn't see.
But then also there's militaryon its tail and then the

(10:35):
eventually the military come,they get it.
But there's just a little bitmore violence in this, obviously
because obviously because it'sanimated and stuff.
But Mom's single, I mean, isdefinitely inspired by.
I mean everybody lovesSpielberg, he got his I don't
know ET really creeped me out asa kid.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I did not like him.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Love his head, hate his weird ass, lumpy body man.
His pile of poop body.
Yes, it is silly, so grossSilly finger.
I love his fingers.
So that's what she said.
But yeah, just when I waswatching this I was like, yeah,
et, there's a part where, youknow, he picks him up and he
flies like near the moon.
That was cool, so it's.
I was like, oh, oh, that makessense, because brad burke gotta

(11:14):
start doing spielberg stuff.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
So did you ever go to universal and ride the et ride?
Yeah, it's one of the bestrides there.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
It was sweet.
Uh, something I hated was whenI got there people were like oh,
this ride's like this was theweirdest ride ever and I was
like it's the weirdest ride ever.
When I saw it I was like oh,it's going to be a goofy little
ride, whatever.
But then it started happening.
I was like, oh cool, and youget the whole miniature city
below you.
That was sweet.
We're doing the little.
You know everything from themovie, and then it's like what

(11:43):
if we did a little bit from thebooks too?
And then all of a suddenthere's all these like weird ass
ETs around, like they lookgross, and it's just like let's
go.
Oh, so excited.
And the fact that the littlecar is like essentially just the
bicycles, it's great.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, that was really cool.
I didn't know there were ETbooks.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, there's actually a sequel book and
everything that like takes placeon his home world and stuff.
They were going to try to makeit, but you know they didn't
Alright.
So I'm going to lay down alittle bit of facts for you.
I'm going to get theheartbreaking one out first
Snake, hey, hey, come on.
His heart is broken.
Hey, stop.
I know Jason's really great.
Oh, I know Jason's really great.

(12:22):
He's like oh, that's what hewanted.
He wanted the burr, thank you.
His tail is going to like teardown the house.
It's whipping back and forth sofast.
So Brad Bird was, in part,inspired to make this film as a
memorial to his sister, susan.
Oh no.
Who died at the hands of herestranged husband by gun
violence.
His pitch was what if a gun hada soul and didn't want to be a

(12:43):
gun?
God?
Damn man and you were cheeringwhen he became the gun.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
I did.
This is rad as hell.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, it's pretty rough, pretty heartbreaking
things.
So let's start out with somefacts about the Iron Giant.
Did you know the Iron Giant isnot the original name of the
source material of this?
Oh, let me guess it was a bookcalled the Iron man, so they
changed it to the Iron Giant sothere would be no confusion from

(13:14):
the Marvel superhero.
Yeah, which now is way betterof a thing.
Also, the movie.
The book was written by TedHughes, it was a novella and it
was just essentially called theIron man, a story in five nights
, so the movie also takes placein five nights.
The novella is basically aboutthe Iron Giant defending Earth

(13:35):
from extraterrestrial monsterswhich resembles like dragons and
stuff that has crashed on topof Australia.
The relationship betweenHogarth and his mechanical
friend isn't as thoroughlydeveloped in the book as it is
in the Iron Giant movie.
So yeah, essentially it wasjust about a giant robot
shooting giant reptiles flyingaround, yeah man.
That's badass.
The book had a sequel in the90s the Iron Woman.

(13:56):
So 25 years after the Iron manwas published, ed Hughes
released a sequel to the storytitled the Iron Woman.
The sequel mirrors the originalnovella in almost every way,
except the Iron Woman mostlyfocuses on environmental issues,
whereas Iron man deals with war.
So yeah, they're just likelet's make the Iron Woman.
She just likes plants, shelikes flowers.

(14:17):
So in the 90s Warner Brotherswas like we have to get animated
movies up and about because ofDisney, they're so good at it.
So they started off with SpaceJam in 96, and then Quest for
Camelot, camelot, camelot that'sthe porn parody of Quest for
Camelot.
And then in 1998, in the 99,the Iron Giant became the

(14:40):
Division's third film and prettymuch way better than the other
two.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I don't think I ever saw quest for kevlar.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, me neither but um, you know, space jam, that
movie that has so much nostalgiafor everybody blows.
I thought I'd re-watch it forthe sequel and I was like, oh no
, this movie bad it's not great,yeah, um, and, and I guess in
the book there was no KentMansley or the Dean guy, the

(15:08):
Dean, the reddest guy on theplanet, who is a complete psycho
.
The artist, yeah, yeah, and Iguess he wasn't an alien in the
book.
In the film, the Iron Giantbecomes from outer space,
crashing onto Earth like ameteorite.
In the book, however, thecharacter actually emerges from
the ocean and it is the evil,dragon looking monster that
comes from space and crashes toearth.

(15:28):
It's like I really didn't knowthey had like I just I didn't
even know it was a book untilnow.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
so yeah, no, no kidding, it would have been
interesting if there would havebeen another enemy in the movie.
I don't think that would havereally added much yeah I mean
the in it.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I think it for things like this, it being humans are
the enemy yeah, always works outbetter for movies like this
where it's like a witcher oh,the thing from outer space is
not our enemy, we are our ownworst enemy.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Ah wisdom it could have been like a more of a
boogie robot.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, so Vin Diesel, our best voice actor.
I don't know, is it wild?
Maybe it's just like thegravelness, or what do you call
it, the bravado of his voice andthe deepness of it that makes
you feel for him and you don'tsee his goofy ass face, but,

(16:28):
like I mean, he has made me cryas both characters.
Oh, like in Triple X, oh yeah,dude that movie.
Whenever he like falls off askateboard, I'm like no, not.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Vin.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Not you, vin, not Xander Cage, but it's wild.
I've cried.
I've cried at Vin Diesel, bothbeing an iron giant and a Groot.
I've cried so much about himbeing Groot.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Those movies kill my soul.
Whenever he protected everyoneand then he had the little glowy
things coming out.
Yeah, is that his seed?
Is he spreading?

Speaker 1 (17:01):
his seed.
No, that was just well.
I mean, he is a plant.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
So yeah, technically, everything that he spreads
seeds yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Bro, if you don't think Groot fucks, you're out of
your mind.
Another fun thing.
This got essentially Brad Bird,pixar movies right.
But what kind of opened thedoor for that is the fact that
this is one of the first films,first 2D animated features, to
have an entirely computergenerated CG character.
This technology was still inits very early incarnation at

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the time.
Prominent computer animatedfilms were Pixar's Toy Story, A
Bug's Life, toy Story 2, as wellas DreamWorks Ants.
The 1999's Iron Giant wasconsidered a major feat in
animation.
Choice of having CG Iron Giantin a 2D movie was twofold.
Animators claimed that it washard to draw a mostly metallic
creature character, and the useof CG also served to further the

(17:57):
notion that the giant robot didnot belong in that world.
Geez, I stumbled over all that,but that was cool.
It was the first time a CGcharacter was in a 2D movie.
Geez, louise, I can't talk.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's really cool.
I had no idea, yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
That's amazing, and, man, that's pretty much all the
facts I got about it.
What would you do if you had?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
a robot, a giant robot.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Honestly, it wouldn't be too much different from what
he did.
World domination.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
I'd be like let's go play a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I'd just be like, hey , you go hide around giant trees
and then when you see peopleturn your head real slowly, you
seem to really like to do that.
Those are some of my favoriteparts in the movie, where it's
like the whole like alien thing,where is it?
And the next thing, you know,it just slightly moves and
you're like, oh, I didn't know.
That was some of my favoriteparts of this movie actually.

(18:50):
Yeah, um, I guess we should getinto the plot.
Yeah, let's go.
And as usual, as we go throughthe plot of this movie, think
about what the movie, what isthe movie trying to tell you.
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Speaker 2 (19:16):
All right, jason, let's go do you think I have no
iron?
You think the iron giant kindof represents like a disabled
person in a way?
Uh, no, okay, I well you meanlike uh, it's just like heavy
just now.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah, I mean it could , I think it could literally
represent.
He's got like a mentallyhandicapped yeah, you know,
because of the dent what, ohyeah, and then he like pops it
out and he's like I'm not for aform.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
And then he's like super cool until he gets upset
yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I mean, maybe I honestly kind of saw him more of
a.
I mean, I think like an idea ofthis movie is the fact that
Hogarth wants a pet, and then agiant yeah, because he had the
squirrel, yeah.
And then so he's kind of like,hey, you're training your pet
and then your pet becomes yourbest friend and then your pet
dies.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
And he saves the whole town.
Squirrel couldn't do that.
Yeah, air Bud could.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Oh yeah, he saved the whole time with basketball,
okay, and then he elevated toother sports.
How old's this dog?
It sports.
How old's this dog?
It can't be in high schoolanymore.
Get this adult dog out of myschools, alright.
The Iron Giant 1999.
In October 1957, during theCold War, an object from space

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crashes in the ocean just offthe coast of Maine.
A fishing boat collides withthe object, which appears to be
a giant robot made of iron.
The boat sinks, but the skippersurvives and swims to the coast
, guided by the lighthouse.
Let's talk about Skipper Boy'sgot a face.
He's got a face.
That's seen some stuff.
I was like man feel bad forthis guy.
They made him as ugly aspossible.

(20:55):
They always make fishermen inanimated movies kind of crazy
looking.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, they do, and I think it's when you're out.
I guess he's had scurvy.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
He's lost some teeth, seems like he's had everything
done to him, just had fish comeout.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
You lost the sea a couple of times.
You don't have any fruit.
You're going to lose some teeth, yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah.
So then we meet Hogarth, whovisits his mom and begs her to
keep a pet squirrel.
Then Hogarth meets an artistnamed Dean in a diner because a
squirrel got loose.
We see the skipper saying hesaw the robot and that he called
the government.
Dean exposes himself and lets asquirrel out of his pants.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
It was really funny how scared the skipper was to
tell people that he saw a giantrobot.
Yeah, I mean yeah, that's stuff.
You just kind of keep quiet, Idon't want to say I don't want
to say, because you alreadythink I'm crazy, yeah, because
he already caught a fish thisbig, yeah, that big.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
So the following night, nine-year-old Hogarth is
watching a late night movie onTV.
Oh, by the way, hogarth's lastname is Hughes, Like Howard
Hughes, a reference to thecreator of the book.
Oh, yeah, he's watching a latenight movie on tv like twilight
zone.
Yeah, it's like I love thatthey just made a just kind of a

(22:11):
1950s b movie, because a lotobviously it takes place in
1950s.
But then you got like theclassic sci-fi.
It's a brain that can move.
All the actors are bad at voiceacting.
It's great, great Kind ofmisogynist, yeah, and then the
brain like gets on the head.
So it's so rad.
I would actually just like tosee that full movie.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
I love old, like mystery, science, theater stuff,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
That stuff.
I watched that so much as a kid, it was great.
I love that they brought itback on Netflix.
I wish they do more so.
Um, yeah, he's watching a movieon TV as his mother's working
late at the cafe.
Then the TV suddenly has nopicture and Hogarth, hogwarts,
hogwarts, hogarth climbs to theroof to find the antenna cut off

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and a trail that goes into theforest.
Dang giant robot, bad at hiding.
Here's the thing the IronGiant's terrible at hiding and
also so sneaky.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, because of all the tall trees.
This is probably like up inOregon or Washington, right?
Uh shit, those giant ass trees.
Yeah, I would assume so,because they'd have to be huge.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, oh no, it's in Maine.
Yeah, I just said at the verybeginning it's in Maine.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, it's Rockwell Maine.
I didn't know.
They had the old trees up thereold trees up there.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Well, it's supposed to be in the 50s, so it wouldn't
have been as populated, I'dassume no, or as many, I don't
know.
Maine doesn't seem like theyhave huge cities.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I feel like there have been more lobsters and shit
.
Yeah, sure, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
I mean, if they said it at Maine, he's got to fight
one giant crab at least.
I'm going to do that in thewhole episode.
Expelliarmus Hogarthinvestigates a trail of
destruction in the forest andfinds the culprit, a
50-foot-tall alien robot.
Great shot of the robot lookinglike he is a part of the woods

(23:56):
and then turns his head and wesee his eyes.
So good, every movie should dothat if they have creatures in
it.
Been watching Alien Earth.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I can't wait to watch that.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's so fun to just watch that show.
Just be like where's the alien?

Speaker 2 (24:09):
It's got to be here somewhere.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
As long as you're still, you can hide from
anything.
Yeah, pretty much.
And if you're like a weirdshaped creature that kind of
fits in with every surrounding,ever yeah.
So he runs away but thenreturns to save the robot when
he gets electrocuted whiletrying to eat the transmission
lines on an electricalsubstation.
He's a big, hungry boy.
Hogarth turns the substationpower off.
Love that because it's ananimated movie for kids.

(24:32):
It's just a giant off switchthat anybody could just walk
into and shut off if they wantedto.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Well, I think there was a big old barbed wire gate.
That's true.
That got knocked down.
But I'm just like maybe putthat inside of a locked building
you know, or it's just like adoor that you have to have a key
.
Yeah, something like that Idon't know, I don't know, Just
like you know there could belike a killer out there.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
That's like I'm going to kill everybody by shutting
down the power.
No one can see me.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
It is kind of interesting that he didn't like
electricity because, like a lotof robots, right.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
But hey, metal man, you know it.
I feel like it'd be more of atickle.
Yeah, I don't know, I can't dohis voice.
So, yeah, he turns off theswitch to be so the robot's not
being electrocuted.
Hogarth's mother returns fromwork is worried at not finding
him at home.
Hogarth, you got to clean upman before you go out, just so
you're not in that much trouble,you know.
So Hogarth climbs the robot'sface and looks in his mouth

(25:27):
because he's I don't know smart.
I guess it's like my catsaround my dog.
They'll come around and then hestarts growling and they're
like, oh, he's growling, Ishould go to his face.
It's like, yeah, snake openyour mouth, they'll walk right
in.
But then the robot wakes up.
Yeah, he runs away and therobot disappeared.

(25:47):
So his mother goes into theforest looking for him and finds
him near the substation.
Hogarth tries to tell her aboutthe robot, but his mother is
not in the mood to hear anythingGood guess mom.
Yeah, right, well, I'm assuming,followed the destruction.
Yeah, go towards the mostdangerous thing nearby, and so
she shoves him in the car andthey drive off and he sees the
robot behind.
It's like hey robot, where thehell did you go?

(26:10):
It's loud when you stomp thisis like it's like Cloverfield,
which we just recently did, whenit's just like.
Why is this thing so sneaky andalso always be able to be seen
Well?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Clover, the Cloverfield monster is in a big
city and it's so noisy.
I can't imagine that being kindof sneaky.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
It's like the Central Park area that we talked about,
where I'm like.
It's a giant open field.
How did it sneak up rightbehind you and pick you up?
The robot does that a lot inthis.
It's just a classic thing thatmovies are like oh, we want him
to be sneaky, but he's alsogiant, so so we'll just use it
at will.
So Hogarth is at school and wesee he's learning about a

(26:47):
potential atomic holocaust.
This is a great video how toduck and cover.
Classic 1950s Cold War stuffFun.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
I always think of the Fallout boy, like in the
Fallout games.
Yeah, he's got this thumb tothe sky measuring the atomic
blast, I think of one thingevery time I see this.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
It was an old Boy Meets World episode and it's
like it's either like the wholeepisode takes place to where
Corey falls asleep or he'sdreaming or something and he
goes back to the 1950s and allhis friends and stuff are from
the 1950s and they're doing thiswhole ducking cover under your
desk and stuff about nuclearwars.

(27:27):
They now just remember he sayskiss your butt goodbye and
they're like how could you saythat?
But yeah, because it was the50s and everybody's all
conservative and like you can'teven say but we're adults, we
can't think about her um.
But yeah, his fellow classmatesthink it's an evil robot and
they also don't like him becausehe's a whiz kid which we'll

(27:48):
find out later.
It's just because he does hishomework.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah, it's just not a piece of shit, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Then we see Dean talking to the skipper who said
the government is sendingsomeone Bum, bum, bum Cut to
investigating the destroyedpower station.
Us government agent KentMansley, played by Shooter
McGavin himself yeah, it's thevoice of Shooter Christopher,
mcdonald is his name.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast you eat
pieces of shit for breakfast.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
He discovers evidence of the robot and decides to
continue his inquiries in nearbyRockwell At the substation.
While he's investigating therobot eats manly's car, he finds
a bb gun that hogar left nearthe substation like hogar man.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
What a good name.
Yeah, oh, it is.
It's a great one.
I think we've lost a lot ofreally good names.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Isn't that the name of the giant furry creature in
labyrinth?

Speaker 2 (28:42):
you know, or is that the?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
or is that?
No, that's, uh, that's the guythat we first see peeing in a
pond.
Yeah, because that's the puppetthat got lost at the luggage
museum.
Yeah, so Hogarth eventuallyreturns, looking for the robot.
He tries to lure him out withmetal so he can take a picture
of it.
Somehow, the robot sneaks up onhim and he runs away.

(29:05):
Yeah, I mean, is he like I'vebeen?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
watching a lot of it.
Somehow the robot sneaks up onhim and he runs away.
Yeah, I mean, is he like I'vebeen walking watching a lot of
ninjas?
Stuff on Tik TOK about how theyget around real sneaky and they
like walk on their hands.
Have you seen that?
Oh man, I haven't seen that.
Maybe he's.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
And that's what he's doing.
He's a ninja robot, oh that.
so the robot catches up with himand tries to sit like hogarth,
because hogarth like falls downand he starts sitting and it's
really cute.
Earthquakes yeah, yeah, thegiant shows him the shutoff
switch and now he is friendlybecause he's like.
He shows him that he's like oh,you know, I saved you friends

(29:40):
for life.
Hell yeah, that's awesome.
Um, so he befriends the giant,finding him docile and curious.
He teaches him about rocks,trees, and the robot, creepily,
tries to say the names ofobjects Rock, rock.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Tree.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Sounding more like a whale at that point.
Damn, we are going to have todo Finding Nemo soon.
Yeah so we see Kent Mansleytelling more government agents
about the robot.
Hogarth is going to go home andcome up with a plan, but the
robot follows Hogarth back tohis house, even though he tries
to get him to stay.
So cute, I love it.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
He's the puppy that won't go away.
It's so ET's like no stay.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
But then ET keeps following.
So upon their return, the giantattempts to eat the rails off
the ties of a nearby railroadtrack.
Alarmed by the sound ofoncoming train, hogarth tells
the giant to repair the track.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
The giant attempts this but takes too long, causing
the train to collide with hishead.
Yeah, that's what kind of mademe think he had a little bit of
Asperger's or something, becausehe's like, just trying to get
it so fine tuned.
He's just trying so soconcentrated.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's like bro just.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It's like a fucking train.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Well, he's also got giant hands.
It's like a needle and threadfor him he's so delicate though
Needle and thread, it's hard.
So, Hogarth and God, I'm sotired of all the st hogwarts
hogarth and the robot fleebefore the train crew can
investigate.
Hogarth discovers that thegiant is self-repairing, as
loose parts from the collisionreturn under their own power and

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reassemble.
It's so cool it's so fuckingcool I love that when the feet
and like they all kind of like,pop, like their mind of its own
and I think I've seen thisborrowed in other oh yeah,
animations and other movies.
Yeah, I mean like there's a lotin like in um, shit, I, I,
they've, they've all flooded mymind.

(31:32):
It's wild.
I know there's like some horrormovies that do it where, like
the, you know, like oh, han gotcut off, but like it crawls back
to him and stuff like thatthere's.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
There's a show in that I think it's on Netflix
right now.
It's like, uh, scavengers,scavengers reign, yeah on, and
it on Netflix right now.
It's like a scavenger's,scavenger's reign, yeah On, and
it's incredible.
But it's exactly what happenswith the robot in that show.
Mm, hmm, and it's so liketotally stole it, yeah, probably
.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I'm just I'm trying to remember, like what did this
steal it from?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Like reanimator, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
It's fucking cool.
Yeah, okay, it's so cool.
I love me some robots.
So then we see Kent Mansleylearns of the derailment and
heads off to see the robot.
Hogarth hides the robot intheir barn where he finishes his
repairs and smiles.
The boy has a good smile, irongiant, best smile on the planet.
And in space, hogarth is eatingwith his mom while trying to
say a prayer.
The robot's hand is constantlytrying to take stuff in the

(32:27):
kitchen.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
It's good to watch the TV.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yeah, yeah, the prayer it's so good, Get out of
here devil.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Oh rad, love it.
Maybe the robot's power, butJesus.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
Jesus.
Thank you, robot Jesus, it isrobot Jesus.
Well, I mean it.
Essentially it's about Supermanand Superman you can tie to
being like Jesus.
So they all kind of yeah, samething, it's all the same thing.
So Hogarth is about to get tothe robot hand out before his
mom finds it, until suddenlyKent Mansley is at the door.

(33:06):
Mansley, he slams the door inhis face though, mr Mansley.
So Kent uses their phone tocall General Rogard.
Shit, completely forgot toremember this game.
Which is so General Rogard, hehas made.
The guy who voices him has madean appearance in a movie we
have done recently.

(33:26):
Say Anything, it's John Mahoney, the father.
Oh shit, yeah, great voice.
Love him, but Rogard is notbelieving him.
Kent needs evidence.
Upset.
He leaves but then realizesthat the BB gun is Hogarth's and
returns it to him.
Then the robot flushes thetoilet, doing the toilet paper
yeah, yeah and his mom spillsthe beans about the robot to

(33:47):
Kent love the flushes the toilet.
It's like doing the toiletpaper.
Yeah, like a kitten, yeah, andhis mom spills the beans about.
The robot to Kent Love thebathroom bit.
So good, kent leaves once againbut saying he will see Hogarth
again real soon.
That sucks, I just love it.
It's like all those noises andthey open the door.
He's like a little privacy here.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
He gets his head caught in the door.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, gotta see this little boy.
So in the barn, hogarth helpsteach the giant about life.
He's able to teach the robothow to speak English through his
comic books.
The robot is impressed withSuperman, but distressed when he
discovers a comic book about anevil robot, atom, atom.
Oh, Hogarth tells the giantthat he is more like Superman
though.
Hell yeah, Hogarth loves hislittle robot.

(34:26):
So Hogarth loves his littlerobot.
So Hogarth and the Iron Giantgo looking for food for the
giant.
He shows the giant Rockwell andthe robot starts to run to it,
but he says the people aren'tready for him.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
So if the Iron Giant eats metal, does he poop metal?
Maybe he doesn't poop.
I mean, he has to right, he'snot biological.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
He's not really growing.
Ooh, actually doesn't poop.
I mean, he has to right, he'snot biological, he's not really
growing.
Oh, actually, man, I guess Ishould need to know what the
book says, right?
Uh, because there is actuallyum cut from this.
Apparently there's like aspecial edition of this that has
, like some added scenes,because they deleted a scene
where they go into the irongiant's past, where he's on his

(35:07):
home planet and he's likefighting with the other robots
and I guess he's kind of forcedto leave the planet.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
So he yeah, yeah, that's cool.
So he was like the con, likethey just kicked him out for
being nice maybe something likethat.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
It didn't really have that much detail about what the
thing was.
I just know that he's fightingwith the other people and he's
ostracized.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I guess he's bullied.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
I don't know if they went into their bathroom habits,
though.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
So I'm not sure about that.
You got to have some good pipes.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
So while out, they see Dean, dean's cool as hell.
Yeah, I love Dean, he's thebest.
He's a weirdo.
At the beginning I'm like howdoes he end up?
Because I kind of forget that.
He ends up with the mom and I'mlike man, the first time he
talks to his mom doesn't reallygo well Because he's like got a
squirrel in his pants.
Mom's pretty.
Yeah, jennifer Aniston, what?

(35:58):
Yeah, nice.
So yeah, it says yeah, they seeDean.
This gives Hogarth the idea forthe perfect spot for him to eat
.
Dean works at a junkyard.
They go there and the gianteats a car, but the horn goes
off and it's hilarious cause, ina panic the giant throws it
somewhere far, but Dean stillhears it and goes outside.
I love how he's just like.

(36:18):
He tries to crush it.
Nothing else I can do, justchucks it.
Hopefully it went into like theocean, maybe, I don't know,
probably just like destroyedsomeone's house Pancake someone.
So Hogarth intercepts Dean todistract him.
Dean invites him inside and wesee Dean is like a bachelor.

(36:39):
Yeah, and he's an artist.
He's a struggling artist whoowns a junkyard.
Well, he probably inherited thejunkyard yeah, yeah, maybe I
don't, I don't know, it's weird,I mean I guess if you're an
artist that's like, yeah, ifhe's a great thing to a metal
sculptor.
Maybe he's just like ah, thiswould be perfect.
A lot of junk in maine.

(36:59):
Apparently this tiny littletown of maine makes a lot of
junk, I guess everywhere does.
That's kind of probably whatthe iron woman is taking care of
oh god, oh so yeah, uh, we seethat dean is an artist.
Uh, dean offers hogarth someespresso, some coffee and he's

(37:23):
like I'll take some.
And then hogarth goes on atangent really quickly about
school and how he's picked onfor being smart.
Dean tells him to not careabout other things and tells him
you are who you choose to be.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Hell yeah, Dean.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yay, this is going to come back later and it's going
to hurt our hearts.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Did you ever have a babysitter growing up?
And then, like we had ababysitter once and I remember
telling her that I was totallyallowed to do all these things,
that I wasn't because, yeah, howwould she know?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
yeah, stupid woman, stupid woman, babysitter doesn't
know, all my babysitters werealways just relatives.
So, no well, I never okay, Iwould never get away.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
This lady was much smarter than me as a like a five
year old or whatever memorycame from.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Adults smarter than kids who knew.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Because I did the thing that I said I was allowed
to do and it was bad.
It was so bad she's just likeyep, I knew it, you weren't
supposed to.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
So then, after all the expresso talk, they hear a
noise outside and Deaninvestigates immediately thinks
it's bad.
The robot picks up Dean, butHogarth tells him he's a friend.
Dean is nervous.
Hogarth tries and convincesDean to let him stay at Dean's
and he eventually agrees yeah,just eat up my product, that's

(38:41):
good, yeah dude boy.
He's just like don't eat thatone.
That's hard, eat this stuff.
Hogarth returns home in themorning where his mom reveals
that Kent Mansley is renting aroom in his house.
I love that he comes home inthe morning to go sleep, oh
you're already up.
Great yeah just make it the bed.
God damn it.
I'm going to fall asleep atschool, but yeah, it sucks

(39:06):
because, like of course, she hadto have a room to rent.
Oh man, he stays there.
Great twist, though.
Love it.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Did your husband die in the war or did they get
divorced?

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Ooh.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Because there had to be a war that he died in right
See 1957.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
She's probably in her late 20s, early 30s.
Like, world War II is probablyover.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Like 10 years before?
Yeah, he's around 10.
Like 10 years before yeah, hewas around 10.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah maybe I don't know.
Yeah, maybe a robot threw a caron him.
So we kind of get a montage ofKent questioning Hogarth and the
robot eating Dean's metal.
Dean tries to teach him thedifference between art and scrap
metal and the robot learnsquickly and also kind of makes a
work of art in Dean's eyes.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Yeah, that was sweet.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
He's like oh well, that does look nice.
Dean Dice, he's like oh well,that does look nice.
Thank you, Vin Diesel.
He's a robot to learn.
So Kent at the diner flips outabout the robot, saying it could
be anything.
It could be the Russians, itcould be aliens.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
It could be your mom.
It could be some laxative, yeah, and then Kent gets laxative
putting his milkshake.
Choco lax.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Smart thinking Hogarth.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
And then it cuts to the scene from Dumb and Dumber,
yeah when he's on the toilet.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
And then Hogarth's like oh shoot, we got to give
him some pills because he haslike acid reflux or something,
then just murders him with ratpoison, with rat poison.
Yeah, so Hogarth goes to thegiant.
They're having fun together.
He does like a rocket car thing.
Looks hella fun.
We see Kent investigating moresigns of the robot and then
eventually finds Hogarth'scamera.

(40:30):
No, the three.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
It's amazing that Hogarth didn't like go back and
like look for it he's good.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Not thinking I guess Didn't think about his BB gun or
his camera.
Probably didn't even know wherehe put that camera.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, because it kind of just like was hanging up in
a tree, it got just like throwninto a tree or something.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
So the three go to the lake.
Hogarth, dean the giantHogarth's swimming in the lake.
He's like come on Iron.
Giant runs away and we're like,oh, I guess he's not going to
get in there.
Cannonball.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Which is ooh, it drains half the lake.
And guess what?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
guys Cannonball that's a reference to the movie
we're also going to do next.
And the pond almost completelydrains out.
It's great, it's so cold, thiswater's fine no-transcript.
At first it's like no, and thenyou get tired of swimming.

(41:29):
It's like, oh, I want to go layon the beach.
And it's like, if I do that,though, I have to get back into
freezing cold water.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Well, they're just like.
We want to stay in the water,dad.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I was like which beach did you take him to?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It was Panama City, I think.
Yeah, yeah, it was way too cold.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
We see Kent developing pictures and he sees
Hogarth with the Iron Giant.
Hogarth is compared to explainthe concept of death to the
giant after he witnesses hunterskilling a deal deer, deal deal
who.
We see the who wait.
Witness hunters killing a deer.
Who see the giant oh the yeahhunters end up seeing the giant.

(42:14):
I worded that weird.
I love like the little cutemoment that breaks your heart
even more, that the deer getsshot when he like sniffs the
finger because deers are veryskittish, but he was calm enough
to sniff his finger.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
And then he pets the dead deer like tries to pick it
up.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
And it doesn't move.
It doesn't move.
It's so sleepy Because it's adead ass, deer.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
We see dead animals on the road.
I'm like, oh look, it's sosleepy, it's so sleepy.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Don't worry, kids, this is sleeping, it's asleep.
Don't worry about the dragmarks and all the blood
everywhere and the bird peckingout its eye.
It's just sleeping.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
That bird's its friend.
It's kind of become a joke.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeah, your kids are like ha ha ha.
Dad, you love making jokesabout death.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Got a good one, so hey why do?
Chickens only make one noise.
I don't know why?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Because they can't think outside the box.
We see the robot sees the gun.
Get that fucking joke out ofthis podcast.
Everybody's driving into theriver now Because they're
laughing so hard.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
We just lost half our audience.
It's a traffic accident.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
So when the robot sees the gun used to kill the
deer, his eyes turn red.
But Hogarth snaps him out of itAt Dean's.
The robot is sad.
Hogarth explains that it's badto kill, but it's not bad to die
.
So he explains that no onereally dies because their souls
live on.
And he tells the giant thateven he has a soul.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Oh, not really oh yeah.
Cute.
I love it.
It's cute.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I love it.
It's programmed Well.
I don't know.
Maybe they gave robot birth onhis robot planet you know, we
don't know, I don't know if itwent through that and deleted
the scene A giant robot pussyout there in space.
Man that robot pussy popping.
Sorry for listening to thiswith your kids, you should know
better.
So hogarth is detained andinterrogated by mansley um and I

(44:09):
don't know.
So he like mansley's just athome alone with hogarth.
Uh, maybe the mom shouldn'tleave her son home alone with a
random stranger she just metyeah, I mean I guess he's a
government agent, so they'relike we can protect you because
nobody in the government hasever done anything bad.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
They trust the government.
Yeah, not the 50s Complicitly.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
At that point we didn't know that they would just
do anything to anybody for anyreason if they saw fit, yeah,
yeah.
Cool.
So when he discovers evidenceof the giant after finding a
photo of him next to Hogarth, hethreatens taking him away from
his mom.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Classic bad guy energy Fuck yeah, then he's like
, I don't know, I could probablymake it to where you'll never
see your mom again.
God damn.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Mansley Turns out he's a bad guy, you know.
Hogarth tells him he is atDean's and then he gets
chloroformed.
Oh, what the fuck, mansley?
Don't leave your kids withstrangers, god damn, Especially
government official strangers.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Yeah, man, I know you're hurting Ugh Fuck.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
So Kent summons a US Army contingent, led by General
Shannon Rogard, to the scrapyardto prove the giant's existence.
Hogarth wakes up during thecall, but Kent traps him in his
room.
Kent and Hogarth stare at eachother all night, hoping one of
them will fall asleep.
And then they both do.
Kent wakes up and finds thatHogarth only pretended to be

(45:30):
asleep.
Yeah, hell yeah, Because he'slike gonna go in there and he's
like, oh, he's still asleep.
Then Hogarth walks past thedoor.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Hey, just now waking up and he still checks the bed.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Yeah, and he's like how did he do this so?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
great.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Oh man, what a genius .
So the army shows up and theygo to Dean's place.
Dean is able to pass off therobot as one of his works of art
.
When Mansley and LieutenantGeneral Rogard investigate, kent
gets chewed out by the general.
Annie and Dean flirt a littlebit.
She's like also, by the way,with your art piece, why you got
random road signs on this thing.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
That doesn't seem to go together.
The rest seems to do.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
It's like mom's kind of smart, except for the fact
that she leaves her son withrandom people.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, that's not good .
Yeah, she's doing her best.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah, I mean single mom.
What are you going to do, right, it's like.
In so later, while playing witha toy gun, Hogarth
inadvertently activates thegiant's defense system, firing a
laser beam in the process,which is fucking rad, and it
sucks because right before he'slike you're a Tomo, he's like no

(46:33):
, I'm Superman.
And then he like starts to actlike a Tomo.
Dean yells at him for nearlykilling Hogarth and the saddened
giant runs away with Hogarthgiving chase.
Sad Vin is very sad, I don'tknow.
I hate when you got hisgravelly voice, oh no.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
No, I'm good as a robot.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
I live a quarter mile at a time.
You almost had me.
You didn't even have your car.
Fast and the Furious, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
We gotta do Fast and the Furious soon, dude we should
we have to do that?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Maybe Keep that.
We gotta keep that in mind.
I don't think it's on anythingright now.
That's what sucks, oh no.
So Dean realizes that the giantwas only acting in self-defense
and catches up to Hogarth asthey follow the giant.
The giant walks in snow, sadand alone, just like freaking
Charlie Brown man.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
He throws off the S that he put on his chest while
playing Snoopy flies by.
Yeah, he's late.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
He just gives a thumbs up.
It's like damn, Joe, Cool,you're so smart.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
You're so cool I forgot he was called Joe Cool.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, he's the coolest dog you've ever met.
Then, in Rockwell, the giantrescues two boys falling from a
roof when he arrives, winningover the townspeople pretty
quick.
I feel like even I would stillbe like.
Maybe we should try to see whatthis robot's all about, though,
but he did save the boys.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Yes, hmm.
Actually those are ourshittiest boys in the town.
Yeah, they're the shittiestboys.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I fucking hate this robot Robots there.
Please kill those two boys, sayyou robots.
So Hogarth arrives and thegiant says I'm not a gun, I'm a
god.
I can't wait to rehear what I'msaying.
Maybe, I can put a robot soundto it.
I'm not gun.

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Mansley, having seen the robot,orders an attack to stop it.
Hogarth and the robot attemptto flee.
Dean tries to tell Kent to stopbecause he has Hogarth.
Kent tells the general that hehas killed the kid Asshole yeah
because you have the wholemilitary there at that point.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
What is his deal?
Yeah, mansley, what's yourfucking deal, man?
He's paranoid.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
He's terrified of the threat.
Well, yeah, I assume that maybehe was in the war, one of the
wars, or something.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
No, he was never in a war.
He was just wanting to make aname for himself.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, and wanted to kill something, or he's like a
conspiracy theorist that becamegovernment official.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
He's like the.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
QAnon shaman.
Yeah, he's the shaman.
I thought I noticed Kent onJanuary 6th.
I was like that guy looksfamiliar.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Annie Mansley.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
So while running they fall off a cliff, and then
suddenly the robot can fly Hellyeah, just like Iron man, just
like he did, it was like oh no,we have nowhere we can go oh he
flies.
So Hogarth tells him to put outhis arm like Superman, and it's
like, yes, he flies.
So Hogarth tells him to put outhis arm like Superman, and it's
like, yes, he's Superman, andit stabilizes him immediately.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
But then of course some fighter jets come in and
almost trigger the giantself-defense.
But he puts a stop.
He stops it himself from doingso.
The jet shoots him out of thesky, and then now Hogarth is
unconscious.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
It's really beautiful how he always covered up
Hogarth is unconscious.
It's really beautiful how,every time, he always covered up
Hogarth every time he's asweetie.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
So the giant assumes that Hogarth is dead and in a
fit of rage and grief,transforms into a war machine
and returns to Rockwell.
I love that.
He's like he removes the dentfrom his head.
He has a hand cannon nowtransformed to a chest cannon
and then also has like tentacleguns.
That was obviously a referenceto War of the Worlds yeah, his

(50:37):
head sinks in.
He's got a bubble around it toprotect it what I love about the
design of the Iron Giant.
It's very 1950s type of adesign for a robot and it's oh,
this movie's so brilliant man.
So mansley convinces rogard toprepare a nuclear missile launch
from the uss nautilus asconventional weapons prove to be
ineffective.
Hogarth awakens and returns intime to calm the giant.

(51:00):
While dean clarifies thesituation to rogard, tells him
you are what you choose to beDamn.
Rogarth is ready to stand downand order the Nautilus to
deactivate its prime nuke.
But a panicked Mansley snatchesRogarth's radio and orders the
missile to launch.
Rogarth's like hey, you idiot,we're next to the robot you ever

(51:25):
think about that one how aboutall these people are here too.
He's fired immediately, right?
Well, he probably gets, likewhat?
Five months in prison, Probablyback in the government.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
So the missile is targeted, just trying to kill a
whole town in?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
five months Probably.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I legit.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
This is like some dumb ass shit that would happen.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
You get 10 years for a fucking quarter sack of weed.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
For this white man in the 50s.
So the missile is targeted tohit Rockwell where it will
destroy the town upon impact inthe resulting nuclear detonation
.
Mansley attempts to escape, butthe giant intervenes and Rogard
has Mansley arrested To savethe town.
The giant bids farewell toHogarth you stay, I go Fuck.

(52:08):
I love you.
I am Groot also.
And then immediately I'm likeit's fucking 830 in the morning
and I'm over here trying to holdback to your second notes.
And then he flies off tointercept the missile.
As he soars into the missile'spath, the giant remembers
Hogarth's words you are who youchoose to be.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
He smiles contently and declares to himself Superman
as he collides with the weapon.
Beautiful, it's great.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
It's so sad, but I put in my notes something to put
kind of put us away from it.
Hey, people in town, get in acar and drive.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, get out of here I feel like maybe at least try
if you could get a few milesaway.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
You might be able to outrun it or yeah, because that
thing was in outer space when hehit it, so you had plenty of
time.
If all y'all saw that going andjust immediately was like we
probably probably got fiveminutes, 100 miles an hour, we'd
probably get out of here, yeah,but no, it was just like it's
too late Because it's 1950s nuke.
It's not like a now nuke thatwould probably destroy the cars,
could only go like 46 miles anhour, that's true.

(53:14):
I like all, scoop us all up andjust fly away.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yeah, put us in your chest cavity, let's go, let's
tie him to a tank or somethingthrow mansley at the missile,
yeah, uh, but what?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
what a?
Just just an absolute brilliantscene with him.
Just everything kind of cameback all at once, the whole.
You stay, I go, which is whathe did at the beginning.
You, you are, who choose to bethe Superman stuff.
It was all building to this onemoment to rip your heart out.
Yes, and it successfully did it.
It's why you don't need themost crazy movies.

(53:52):
All you have to do is make usfeel and we'll remember a movie
like for hundreds of years.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
You always remember how you feel.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
So the missile explodes in the atmosphere,
saving Rockwell, its populationand the military forces nearby,
while the giant is presumablydestroyed, leaving Hogarth.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
It's called Rockwell.
I had a connection.
Rockwell, are you about?

Speaker 1 (54:11):
to say Roswell.
Oh, I don't think there's anysort of connection.
But while the giant ispresumably destroyed, leaving
Hogarth, dean, annie and Rogardevastated.
While the giant is presumablydestroyed, leaving Hogarth, dean
, annie and Rogar devastated.
Months later, dean and Annie,now a couple, have a chat at a
memorial of the giant made byDean standing in Rockwell.
Hogarth is given a package fromRogar containing a screw from
the giant, which is the onlyremnant found.

(54:33):
But that night.
But wait, there's more, there'smore.
Hogarth finds the screw, tryingto move on on its own and,
remembering the giant's abilityto self-repair, happily allows
the screw to leave.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
He's like hey quit screwing around.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Fun fact that screw is typing Morse code.
It's typing go Really.
Yeah, that's cool, I know.
Movie Perfect.
The screw joins many otherparts as they converge on the
giant's head on the.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Is that the same?
Is that his jaw screw the sameone?

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yeah, I think it's the main one that like fully
fixed them the first time we sawit, so now in a glacier in
Iceland, and the giant smiles ashe begins reassembling himself.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
In.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Iceland.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Yeah, goddamn, that's .
They got blown to fucking shit.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
I guess it's like the wind.
I don't know that's a long waywhat I'm assuming is probably
the parts spread out all overthe globe.
I'm assuming this is a giantmassive nuke and then I'm
assuming gravity.
Kind of took it a little bit aswell.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah, because it was kind of outside.
Yeah, it's still inside theatmosphere maybe, but it could
have just.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah, giant explosion , though Threw it everywhere.
That's awesome, and I think itjust all reconverges on his head
.
So I think that's because he'sgot the antenna.
Yeah, it's great.
I wish I could do that.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
I know and because my daughter was like oh no, I was
like just wait, just you wait,just wait.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
That's amazing, the Iron Giant.
So good, jason.
What's the point?
Good feelings Just to feel goodand bad?
I think it's that you don'thave to be an evil dick that
just wants to point weapons atpeople and kill them.
You can choose to be a goodperson and help, not kill.
Also, I think it's about guncontrol, war and some like

(56:25):
fatherhood stuff.
Yeah, sure, yeah, that's reallygood.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, so you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Maybe if you have like some power and it's just
like.
Maybe like we don't justconstantly stick like military
on people and stuff like thatand we just try to figure out
rational ways of fixing things.
Yeah, on people and stuff likethat, and we just try to figure
out rational ways of fixingthings.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Yeah, maybe take a millisecond to try to understand
.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Yeah people and everything.
Yeah, everything's fine, we'reall good right, everybody's
happy, it's good so glad we havemovies like this to make me not
think about anything aroundever, anytime.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
It's amazing.
It's such a good movie.
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
So, hey, anybody out there who's a dick, stop being a
dick.
Yeah, be a robot, or blow youup with a nuclear missile.
Robots good people, bad.
Be more like robots.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
It's like Bender from Futurama.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Yeah, just well, don't be like him.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
He wanted to kill all humans.
He's an alcoholic but but hehad to.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
it lubes his gears yeah, that's great for robots,
but human alcoholics usually notgood people or just in very sad
situations you know alright.
Well, that's that category.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Now we're gonna hit the good, the bad, the ugly the
fine.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
It's where we discuss the good of the movie,
something that we liked about it.
The bad, something we didn'tlike.
The ugly, something that didn'tage well.
The good, something that didage well.
What do you got for the good?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
I really love just like the iron giant and his
mannerisms and just howprotective he was over hogarth.
Yeah, uh, this, just it'sbeautiful, yeah, yeah oh god,
he's doing it again.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
God, you should see how wet the couch is from tears.
Nothing else so sweaty um, thegood for me is like the message.
The message and the way it allcomes together makes everybody
sad.
I mean, it's to the point where, like when you talk about iron
giant, people are like, oh man,I love that movie so much and it
all, I think, comes from themessage and how they put it

(58:20):
together if you like, like cause.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
During the cold war, everyone was afraid of nuclear
bombs, and then it's just.
I mean, yeah, today, like yousee the government seeking its
military on its own citizens andthat's what's happening.
They have a hero.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah, save them from who's our iron giant.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Who's our iron giant?
I guess it's one of us.
Hey, gotta be Elon Musk.
Snake, right, my dog.
Is he going to send a rocket tostop a nuke?
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
No, he'll probably.
He'll just tweet about it.
Yeah, he's like oh shit, yeah,um for for for the bad, I put if
you don't think the message isgood, it's whoever you are that
thinks this message is bad.
You're the bad.
And because there's nothing badabout this movie, it's a
perfect movie.
It's an hour and 25 minutes ofperfection yeah, super good,

(59:15):
totally cool.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I didn't really think there was anything bad about it
no, absolutely nothing sucksthat his BB gun got broken.
I would have been pissed Hateto see that man.
God damn, I love my BB gun.
I use it every goddamn day.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Taxpayer's dollars having to fix all the stuff he's
destroying.
God dang robot, you know what?
Kill that robot, so the ugly.
I said like oh bad Dean, likejazz.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Ooh, you're not a jazz head.
Guess we probably shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Some jazz is okay.
I guess we shouldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Some jazz is really good Most of it bad.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Our second movie.
We're characters like jazzPlattable For the ugly.
I put you know Jesus?
No, not Jesus, our Lord andSavior Jesus Christ I was just
going to say Jesus, you knowlike all the you know, shoot

(01:00:12):
first, ask questions later typeof people you know, Just like
the deer.
That's still around, so nothingreally ever changes, you know,
you know.
The sequel is the Iron Giantgetting arrested by ICE, and
that sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Nothing really ever changes, you know you know, did
you see a horse?

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
The?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
sequel is the Iron Giant getting arrested by ICE.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah, and that sucks.
No, even worse.
The Iron Giant joins ICE, joinsICE.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Oh man, just to blend in.
Yeah, jeez, infiltrate IllegalsBad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Hey.
I've thought about it dude, ohno.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Oh no, oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Iron.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Giant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
You were my best friend.
Oh, what do you got for that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Ugly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
No, there's nothing really that ugly.
Yeah, nothing, really ages bad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
No, not really at all .
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
For me for the Maine Maine oh fuck Maine, just
kidding.
So, uh, for me for the mainmain oh fuck me, just kidding.
Never been to maine seemslovely, except for the fact you
got giant robots and stephenking monsters stephen king has
worn the fuck out of maine,maine's just like dude, can you
make one good story?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
we're not that scary over here, guys, we can't help
it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
It's cold all the time there's crabs everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I can only assume so many crabs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
So I put for the good , I just put robots yeah, fuck,
yeah, man the robots, yeah,they're awesome and also, just
like kids, movies transcendingage and that is really good.
That's really insightful it'slike all well, if you think
about it.
All good kids movies do that.
Yeah, all pixar does that all.
Anytime there's like a movieyou go and look up reviews and

(01:01:46):
it's got like all these amazingreviews and then you watch and
you're like oh, because it killsyou.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
It kills adult people's hearts too okay, do you
think they have a guy that'sjust in charge of that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
like watching the movie, and he's like like so
it's like all these people bringthese fun little kids movie
scripts to him and then, likethere's somebody, get the
saddest man on the planet.
We have to break some hearts.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Get the bird man yeah .

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
So we got for the good, what Aged well, or the
fine the Cold War.
Cold War, yeah, aged prettywell.
We got out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
We did it.
We, yeah, aged pretty well.
We got out of it.
We did it.
We're kind of back in it.
Yeah, ran a little bit.
We did it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Man Back in.
We got to get out of thissection because we can't stop
talking about terrible real lifefakes.
All right Double feature.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
We need an Iron Giant .

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
This is our next category.
We recommend a movie that goesalongside this movie.
I chose another perfect movie.
Guess what?
It is no ET.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I'm with a finger blaster.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
I've talked about ET this whole time.
Of course, I picked ET.
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Astro Boy.
Have you ever seen it?
I've not seen Astro Boy.
It's so good.
He's a robot, yeah, and JackNicholas Cage is his dad.
And there's these robots in themovie that are amazing.
They're fighting for freedomand they're fucking idiots.

(01:03:16):
And it's so good.
Nice, I love it so much.
It's such a good movie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I'll have to check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
I think it really went under the radar for a lot
so much.
It's such a good movie.
I'll have to check that out.
I think it really went underthe radar for a lot of people.
It's really really good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
It's got decent reviews.
I will have to check that out.
And that is our conclusion ofthe Iron Giant.
Make sure you join us for ohwait, I just got an important
news update Cannonball, becausethis week we recommend Anchorman
or next week we're doingAnchorman baby.

(01:03:51):
It's been a while since we dida comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
You don't know to speak Spanish, so let's freaking
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
San Diego's whale's vagina.
Oh no, Can't wait to go intothis movie Don't act like you're
not impressed.
One of the most quotable moviesever made.
So I hope you're not tired ofhearing people quote Anchorman
throughout your entire life.
Because next week we're aboutto throw a bunch of quotes of
Anchorman at your face and yourear holes, which one are you

(01:04:19):
going to choose to open withthat's?

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
going to be hard.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I'm going to find the least funny line in the entire
thing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
I'm going to choose the worst part of the movie.
I'm going to get a flute andjust play the flute.
Five minutes of the movieAqualung the best Like.
I just love that.
The movies is like peopleprobably.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
What if we?

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
do a bit, that will be old immediately when you
watch this movie.
It's got some of the funniestpeople in it.
Can't wait to do it.
I love that.
Veronica Corning, oh, the namesBrick Tamland, champ Kind.
Oh man, what a perfect comedy.
So make sure you join us nextweek for that.
It's going to be a lot of this.
Yes, jason will be laughing.

(01:05:04):
I will be starting to saycontinue the notes and then
people just laugh louder andI'll stop it's gonna be great,
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