The Ritual (2017)

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast, where every weekwe recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse, I'm Jason.
My old scoutmaster used to sayif the shortcut was a shortcut,
it wouldn't be called a shortcut, it'd be called a route,
because this week we recommendthe Ritual, the ritual.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
There's really no quotes oh god, here we go help.
My mom was our.
I only made it to Cub Scouts.
I didn't make it past that.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I was like, oh god, where's this going?
Please don't so, jason theritual.
What'd you think?
It, fucking rules, is going.
Please don't so, jason theritual.
What'd you think?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
It fucking rules.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I love it, I love.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Eldritch Horror.
It's my favorite.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
This folklore, shit, horror stuff.
I love it, man, it's my jam.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, the scary woods .
Yeah, all the runes, I fuckinglove it, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
You know this.
Yeah, the scary woods, yeah,all the runes, I love it it's.
You know this is going to bethe second week I talk about my
vacation, but there's a part inFlorida, when we go to St George
, that there's a lot of skinnytrees.
Yeah, just a lot of skinnytrees, and it's like an hour of
your drive.
And I was just like, when itgets, looking in those trees on

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my way to vacation, like, isthere a Bigfoot, is there going
to be something out there?
And I'm like, yeah, those treesare terrifying.
Being in the woods alone isterrifying, especially at night,
especially when you're withfucking weasel Dom.
Oh God, talk about.
Here's the thing.
The thing dom reminds me ofsomeone I know.

(01:48):
Oh no, I won't say oh no, likeI don't really talk to him
anymore.
It's not somebody they used towork at chelsea, but it kind of
reminds me.
I'm just like golly, justconstantly arguing about
everything.
Such a little baby, debbiedowner dude fucking tommy.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's like every.
I gotta stop.
I'm hurting, though, and like,whenever you see him, a little
baby, debbie Downer.
Dude fucking Tommy Downer.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I gotta stop.
I'm hurting, though, and like,whenever you see him a little
later, you're like you know whatactually?
Yeah, you're fucking right.
Why'd y'all go through thesewoods?
This movie also has one of myfavorite things, when you just
you know the trope of thesepeople.
Why are y'all doing this?
Right?
Yeah, it's like I get that theywant to hurry up through the

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woods, and you know what?
They would have been correct iffucking dom didn't like I want
to go down this path.
They would have just wentstraight to the cabin that
they're looking for?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
yeah, if they would have, well, they would have
followed the compass becausethey're trying to get out right.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, since his leg was yeah, and like they had that
trail, I'm assuming, from likethe creature, that creature,
that guy's like I'm going thisway and it's like who are you?
You don't have a compass,you're just following nothing.
Whew, man, he riles me up.
Dude, no, I love, I don't know.
There's.
It's always.

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It's kind of eerie whenever,because you know, most folklore
is fake's not like it's like.
It's usually something to likescare people like wendigo.
It's something native americansmade up so people wouldn't eat
humans, because if you it's likenative american lore amazing a
wendigo is someone who ate ahuman and turned into a monster.

(03:19):
So it's just kind of fun to seelike all these you know fake
tales.
And then, whenever you put themin movies, it becomes real and
it's like is of fun to see likeall these you know fake tales.
And then, whenever you put themin movies, it becomes real and
it's like is there anythingscarier than when you walk into
a place and all these peoplebelieve in something and it's
like, oh, this is creepy.
And then that shit turns out tobe real.
Is there anything scarier thanthat?
It's like, ah, wow, that sucks.
Wow, that sucks.

(03:41):
How wrong I was.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
And what I really love about, like Norse mythology
and just like the environmentalhorror of all.
This is really great becausethe forest is so silent.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Something they say at the beginning yeah, it's so
quiet in here.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
And it's something that I've seen in.
There's a game called SenuauousSacrifice or something.
It's kind of like this, withthe eldritch like fighting and
with all the charms hanging fromtrees.
Yeah.
And it's so quiet and all youhear is just charms and it's
like and you can't see in astraight line because of all the

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trees.
Yeah.
And it just feels so isolatedand terrifying.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And then it's like with those little trees when you
move, like there's so many ofthe little trees that like it
kind of simulates someonewalking.
Yes, so it's like if you catchout of the corner of your eye,
especially if you were to wearglasses.
You know glares and stuff likea lot of time.
I'm just sitting at home.
I'm like, why did?
I was my frames, so I couldn'teven imagine being being like

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with my thicker frames in theforest with those tiny trees,
I'll be like can we go no alsoit's just, oh man, just talk
about people walking and notjust seeing all the warning
signs and not turning around.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Did you ever watch the show Vikings?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
No, I haven't.
I know you've brought it upbefore, oh, okay, well, it's Not
on the pod, I think, just likein real life.
Oh, all right.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's a couple of episodes where they all go into
the woods, into like this typeof forest to go to like a it's
like a huge gathering ofeveryone just, or like worship
odin or some shit, and it's likea lot of human sacrifices and
like it's just the quiet, likelike just gutting people hanging

(05:36):
them upside down yeah, it's sogood.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
that's what I liked about, uh, the northman.
Yeah, that was like fun to see,like especially because that so
good, that's what I liked aboutthe Northmen.
Yeah, that was like fun to see,especially because that
director really likes historical, like fact.
He likes to put facts in hismovies like how they use their
weapons, how they raided places.
It's like really cool to seeall that.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I think modern religion could really learn
something from these guys.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, most modern religion is so boring.
It's like oh, everybody wasperfect and happy, this was the
most perfect human being.
Like Greek and Norse is likethey fucked all the time
Everybody had sex.
That's all they were doing.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
And they really scared you and they love to
murder.
We got so many people, we couldjust sacrifice them.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
It's like you accidentally trip over them,
they'll kill your whole family.
It's like Zeus brother, chillout, boy.
Why are you so upset?
You got everything.
You're a god.
Speaking of gods, let's go intoa little bit about what this
movie's referencing and stuff.
So there's something called theKirby Kirkby, kirkby, kirby,

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steppenstone, so the.
Whenever he, luke, first getskidnapped and like they're
seeing, like these people kindof like pray whenever they fall.
Dom and Luke fall into thehouse.
Yeah, like, towards the end yousee people praying to something
.
It's that stone, oh, nice.
So the woman is praying towhich is the stone, or it's also

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called a Loki stone.
So it's housed in Stephen'schurch in Kirkby Stephen in
Britain.
The stone is thought to depictthe Norse god, loki, bound and
chained so and turns out theJotun, which is the creature.
In fact, this creature also hasits roots in Norse mythology.

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This mystic, enigmatic beastsare similar to trolls and giants
, and it turns out to be thebastard son of Loki.
Fuck, yeah, so that's why italso has that kind of trickster
element of like whenever gailcomes out, see illusions yeah,
so he sees gail, which when Ilearned that, I was like oh,
this thing isn't good and givingyou like one last happy thing.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
It's just like a little shithead and he is and I,
and if, if, if, loki would havebrought this shit out whenever
he was captured by Iron man yeahthey wouldn't have had a chance
.
Yeah, I don't know.
Thor could have probably kickedits ass yeah, well, yeah,

(08:21):
hopefully but you know.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Loki's very tricky, tricky, tricky, so let's see.
So like the methods of killing.
Well, yeah, hopefully.
But you know, loki's verytricky, tricky, tricky, so let's
see.
So like the methods of killing.
The god Odin, who is associatedwith the knowledge and wisdom,
sacrificed himself in the cosmictree, yorg, still by impaling
himself on a spear.
Yggdrasil, right, yeah,yggdrasil, yeah, you know, I

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don't know any of these words.
Through this self-sacrifice, hewas able to gain knowledge of
rune magic.
The symbolism could play intothe ritual of the film's title.
At the end of the film, thevillagers plan to offer Luke up
to the beast who they allworship as a god.
If he lays down and praysbefore Jotun, the monster will
take his pain away and rewardhim with everlasting life, but
if he doesn't, he'll join hisfriends up in the trees so is

(09:07):
that like hanging him up?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
impaling them on trees is kind of like a
bastardized version of what Odinbecause Odin hung himself.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Well, he like stabbed himself with a spear, I guess.
Well, he that's what this wassaying.
I might be wrong though.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, I always heard that he hung himself in a tree
and then, like the truth, theYggdrasil, and then crows pecked
his eyes out like ravens orwhatever.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Blinded him, and then he could have stabbed himself.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I mean why not Maybe a little bit of all three.
He's like I really got to diehere.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And then he rose after the whatever day and was a
god.
Yeah, it's badass, love it.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
So a little bit of fun about the rune, the Odal
rune, which is kind of thecircle one that means inherited
estate or also could meandescent, so like, whenever you
see some of the like thecircular runes, I guess that
means, hey, our fucking landdude.
And then you have the Algizrune.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Sure, if I'm saying that right which is the letter
you have, the.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Algiz rune Sure.
If I'm saying that right, whichis the letter Y, it's
translated as elk, so it's kindof an elk like creature Makes
sense.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Fucking horrifying.
With the big long legs.
It's been blend in perfectlywith all trees and all the
little mummified humans.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Is that the?
Is that the?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
extended life that they're getting.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
Yes, it is.
It's not good mummified humansup top.
Is that the?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
extended life that they're getting.
Yes, yes, it is.
It's not good.
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
He's like fuck these guys.
Yeah, it's like y'all can'tlike this right.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
This is not good.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
This is not what y'all were promised.
I'm sure they're chanting theword Bluetooth.
I don't know how you'd say itin Norse, but it's B-L-O-T.
With the little dash over the Oit means sacrifice.
So that's what they're chantingsacrifice, cool man, that's
really kind of.
All the facts there's likenothing except it's just all the

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mythology which I butchered.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I like it when movies don't over explain things.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
And I feel like this movie did that.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Kind of let your imagination go with it.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
So one of the things I wanted to ask do you think so?
You know this came out in 2017,I believe, yeah, and no one
heard about it.
Well, it was like reallypopular as soon as it came out.
And then it's just because itcame out on Netflix and it came
out one month, everybody's like,oh, it's out of my head, also
used to be a book, it was a bookbefore.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh yeah, I saw that it was based on a book the same
name you know this came outduring the whole.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Trauma has to be in every horror.
It's like, how do you feel likethe trauma of this played into
the movie?
Do you think it was effective?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
It was it's kind of like it reminded me a lot of the
Frankenstein monster, how itjust kind of follows you around,
but until it literally startedattacking them I was like, oh
wait, no it's totally somethingdifferent, but it seemed like
his trauma was following himwherever he went.
Yeah, and the monster used itagainst him.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah, fuck, following him wherever he went.
Yeah, and the monster used itagainst them.
Yeah, I think that's whatreally works.
In this, as in like some of theother.
It's always just oh, it'ssomething they're dealing with.
It really has nothing that muchto do with what's trying to
kill them, but in this, thislittle loki bats or sons, it's
like I'm gonna have a field daywith this guy.
I'm your wife.

(12:25):
Yeah, man, those transitionswhenever it's just like Now
you're in this store whereyou're going to constantly keep
seeing your friend die, and howit's like like there's less and
less of the store as itcontinues and it's blending in

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with the environment.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Sorry, I had turkey sausage.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
And now I'm like hell of a burnt belchy.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Well, I think most of like the do you have any
favorite folk horror movies?
I haven't really thought aboutit.
You know it's like, there'salways like, Like.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
The Witch, or like this one's one of them now.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Pretty good, yeah, it's fucking cool.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I think probably the two most known and probably best
would be the original Wickerman.
Have you seen that?
Not the original one?
Oh man, the original one'sgreat Way better than Nick
Caveman, which is considered abad movie.
Fun to watch, but it's reallynot even that, although I
enjoyed it when I saw it.
Really.
Yeah, when I was a kid I didenjoy it, but now when I watched

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it a little older, I was likethis is kind of really boring.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Midsommar was fucking good.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Midsommar's fucking metal baby.
It happens all during thedaytime.
It's so good.
So yeah, like Wicker man,midsommar, blair Witch, that
one's great, that was great.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Hereditary, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Fuck yeah, that was hereditary.
Oh yeah, fuck yeah, there's onecalled the kill list.
I don't know if you watched it.
I don't think so.
Uh, you should.
It's a very it's an awesomemovie.
And here's the thing you can'tunderstand.
They're all speaking well, it'sI don't know where if it takes
place in wales or something,they're speaking english, but
it's so hard to hear thembecause their accents.
You have to turn on thesubtitles.

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A Field in England, that was afun one.
And if you want to watch someold ones, there's like Onibaba,
which is like a.
Japanese film.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh, it's so good, doesn't that, onibaba?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
it's like Boogeyman yeah essentially it's about like
two people having sex and thenthis badness happens and it's
like all filmed like in Japan,you know, like when they didn't
have like TVs and electricityand stuff, and it's so creepy
because of how old it is and howover the top like sometimes

(14:37):
Japanese cinema can be yes, andit's just like ah it was like
really kind of scary, all right.
Well, I think most of the thingsI want to talk about is
actually in the plot in themovie, so I think we should just
hop right in.
Yeah, so think about the pointof the movie as we go through
the plot, because we'll bediscussing it after we go
through the plot.
All right, the Ritual 2017.

(14:58):
You have five old friends fromuniversity.
You got rather go to Las Vegas.

(15:18):
I don't know, vegas is reallynot my thing accompanies him, so
would you want to go on ahiking trip in sweden?
Yeah, I think so.
Would you rather go to las?

Speaker 2 (15:27):
vegas?
I don't.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Vegas is really not my thing, I've never been, I
think I would probably choose.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I've never been either, but I don't know, I
don't really seem like, though Imean like hiking in sweden.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
That does sound fun.
But man camping, I don't know.
I've I've been camping in atent in a coon's age, just like
a coon's age, like I mean, atleast since I was in high school
.
So I'm like I don't want to bein charge of this trip going and
you have to learn how to read amap and a compass.
I don't think I could do it Idon't trust it.

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Um so, while conversing in theshop, the pair notices the
stressed cashier slumped againstthe wall behind the register.
Two armed robbers emerge fromthe back room and Luke hides
behind a shelf at the end of theaisle, leaving Rob frozen in
fear.
Robbers antagonize Rob,demanding his wallet, watch and
ring.
Rob parts with the first twowillingly, but refused to give
his ring as it is his weddingband.

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And then Luke, still hiddenfrom sight, sight, flips the
bottle in his hands, preparingto like I'm gonna do this.
However, he's too slow to actand Rob gets a bloodie.
He freezes.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's a horrible feeling.
It's happened to me before Notthis situation, but like in
elementary school.
I was just sitting there andthen all of a sudden a fight
broke out next to me and the kidgot his ass completely beat
like horribly, horribly bloodeverywhere, and I was just like
feet away watching it, could notmove.
Until I looked around,everybody else was back against

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the back wall of the room.
Yeah.
And.
I was just sitting there at mydesk like frozen in fear.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Man, it was horrible, golly.
I've never seen an elementaryschool fight that violent it was
bad so scary, yeah I mean, andwhich we'll get to it a little
bit later.
But yeah, man, that it's easyto say I would act.
But are you sure?

Speaker 2 (17:18):
yeah, you never know, are you sure you're gonna act?
But what would be cool if hedid act Surrounded by things in
the throat?

Speaker 1 (17:25):
I know that is the thing it's like man, if they
both just grabbed bottlestogether and just started
hucking, I mean, you figurethose people would eventually be
like we got to run and get outof here.
So, you just need a plan beforeyou go into any building ever.
Hey, if they don't have guns,we huck bottles.
But yeah, what a pretty violentdeath.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Then I'll just have to say rob bro, give up your
fucking ring and just buy a newring.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yes for sure, it's a symbol doesn't have to mean
everything, though.
You still have your lovebetween you and your wife.
Just take the ring off, give it.
That's why you don't get goldrings anymore.
You get wooden rings that lookbadass, yeah, um.
So then we Jump cut To Robsleeping.
I will say this opening, likethe whole beginning To this

(18:11):
Fucking tense.
It's great, it's a great way Tostart off in your movie.
Yeah, hella violent.
Yeah, cause you're gonna go like30 to 40 minutes With no
violence and like you hear theCrackling, it cracks his face
open yeah, and then it's likethey hit him once and it's like
then you hear the other robberthat did a metal baton yeah, and
the other robber that was likehey, why'd you don't do that?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
he's like that's crazy for us.
Then he does it again.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
It's like what the fuck are you doing all of a
sudden?
You just had to hit him once.
You didn't have to like killhim, let's just get some vodka.
It's like once you hit somebodywith a metal pole once and they
fall to the ground.
Hey, you don't have to keepdoing it.
Kick them in the stomach if youresist, or something, I don't
know.
You hit me over the head with ametal pole once, like just take
my clothes take everything,take it all, take the store.

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You want my wife.
So yeah, we jump, cut to Robsleeping.
To honor Rob's wish, the fourembark on a three-day hiking
trip along Kongsleden, or King'sTrail, which is what I'm going
to call it, in a national parkin northern Sweden.
Six months after his death,they stop and set up a memorial

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on a hill and drink for Rob andpour one out for him For the
homies RIP baby.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
I feel like they probably should have drank more
of it because it took a longtime.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
It was a pretty funny moment where it seemed like
people were kind of like wait,we could have had more.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
He would have wanted us to have more.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
He would have probably wanted you to only pour
like half out.
I don't think you're supposedto pour the whole.
Yeah, man, you know what?
That's what I want.
Everybody that's listening tothis, that's my friend.
If I die, you'll have to go toSweden and pour out all your
alcohol so, but something realshitty and cheap.

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yeah, just like just a fivedollar.
Five dollar wine or something.
Didn't have to be liquor, someschnapps.
So Luke and Hutch have a talkat night.
Luke blames himself for thedeath of Rob, hutch tells him
not to blame himself, though.
Then Hutch sees the lodge theyare walking to, it's like, oh
hey, fuck, that's where we'regoing, that's our way out, oh, I

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didn't know they were goingtoward a lodge.
Yeah, well, they're just tryingto walk out of there.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I guess, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
They just saw them.
They go to the lodge and Iguess they're going to get
picked up from there.
It doesn't fully explain, butthey point to it.
It's like, hey, it's only twodays away, goddamn.
So the next morning it'sraining, no.
And then the fucking weasel-assbitch Dom loses his footing and
injures his knee, impairing hisability to to walk.
Hutch consults the map anddecides that an alternate route

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through a forest of the trailwill take them half the time.
Hey, dom, that's kind of how Ialways describe him before I
talk about him Fucking.
He's the last bitch Dom.
I hate him.
He sucks.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, he does, he crosses the line.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
We'll get there.
We'll get there where I canyell about him a little bit more
.
Hey guys, if you're hiking andyou're on a trail and it's a
very, you know like there's aroute, all you gotta do is
follow that route.
You're gonna be home safe.
Don't cut through the fuckingwoods, just don't do it.
There's no reason.
You're not mountain men anymore.

(21:22):
We don't have those people,unless you are those, that
person that knows how to do that.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
It seemed like he may have had even known.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, he would have been right.
The compass and the map butit's just you've got too many
people with you.
You got an injured guy youdon't know how and because
you're saying it's a shortcut ifit doesn't lead you out of
there in a couple hours, the guywith a hurt leg that's a weasel
ass bitch he's gonna complain.
Hey, you're good, you're goingup and down like yeah, not trail
you've just been better just tofollow the trail, but it makes

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for a great movie.
Yeah, so, and honestly, like,as soon as they go in the forest
, I'm like yay they're all gonnadie, but yeah, I mean because I
just be like there's gonna bebears, or like there's gonna be
bears or something there's gonnabe all sorts of things
apparently they're.
I was looking it up, apparentlythey're forced pretty safe, nice

(22:12):
.
I mean, you know, if you see awild animal they could attack
territorial giant eldritchmonster, yeah, but I mean, you
know if you like, run into likea buck or something that's
territorial.
You could die, I mean, whatabout?
A buck fifty the longness.
Good thing.
Oh wait, three, fifty not abuck.

(22:33):
Fifty Three, fifty, oh my God.
So they're walking to theforest and then they see a
hippie van.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
That's how you rescue your dad.
Joke Like that's not where youpark that.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
And then one of them's like I got see a hippie
van.
That's how you rescue, that'snot where you park that.
And then one of them's like Igot a hand job in one of those.
It's like, oh man, memories.
Who's like?
How far away from civilizationare they?
And how did this hippie van getthere?
Did the?
It was the magic, did themonster?
Just like?
I'm actually gonna step out ofthe forest today, go to the road
, pick it up I want this.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
It's like playing with other ones this is, is my
car now?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Vroom vroom, vroom, cross cross.
So upon entering the forest,they take a selfie.
We're just four twats in aforest.
Take this selfie, luke's noteven smiling, phil closes his
eyes and then you got Dom andHutch the only ones that are
actually smiling.
Gotta go hard.
Then the group startencountering strange phenomena,

(23:26):
including a gutted elk hangingfrom a tree branches and strange
symbols carved on the tree.
Turn around, don't keep going.
Oh god, please stop.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
I bet it was a bear that did that don't keep going.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
This would make no sense.
Turn around.
This is weird.
Like all as soon as I allanytime something bad was
happening, I was sitting next tomy wife watching like, oh God,
don't keep going, please stop.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
It's like those billboards with the cows that
say eat more chicken orChick-fil-A.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, If you're a chicken and you see that you got
to turn around man, it is oneof those things it's frustrating
in all horror movies where it'slike what are you doing?
You don't just see that and youkeep going and nope, like
though it's nice that there islike someone who's like we gotta
turn around, like Luke beingwell, we should probably not

(24:16):
keep going right, this is bad.
We can't stay here.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
We should we should go back to the trail or at least
like poke it with a stick.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
But then Luke's like hey, do y'all see that?
Like what that's fresh.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
We got to get out of here.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's like man, it's like it just sucks that
everybody in horror movies havenever seen a horror movie.
Yeah, it's like come on, guys,if that's up there, there's at
least going to be some probablysome weird people at most at
least in the forest, somebodythat's going to do that?

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I don't think, I don't know what animals can do
that.
It tripped, yeah, oh, no, itjust flew into the air.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
It could have been just really angry trees man.
They hated that elk.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
We never we didn't see the sequence of events that
made this accident happen.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
It's like Mr Magoo shit, they got it really wrong,
got hit by that bus.
It's a really blind elk.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Have you ever hit a deer?
And it gets launched into theair.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
No.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Like into the power lines.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, I guess I was in a car with a friend, but it
didn't really launch it.
It did see it spin to the side,which I was like.
Oh, but then it was still alive1080 and you could just hear
like and it kind of flew in thecornfield and you could just
hear it for like five minutes,running through the cornfield
and falling.
Oh that sucks and I was like,yeah, I'll never be a hunter,
that's for sure.
So as the night falls, atorrential rainstorm soaks them

(25:47):
in.
While looking for shelter, theycome upon an abandoned cabin
and tree with runes carved in itand decide to break in and stay
overnight.
Luke hears an animalistic noiseoutside.
Try to warn the guys like hey,that's weird, right?
Hey guys, we should probablynot be here.
Here's the thing.

(26:07):
And then this is the one thingI'm like yeah, fuck, yeah, get
in this cabin, right, it's likeno one's living out here.
This look pretty abandoned fromthe outside.
It's like no, I totally on likeKutch's side of let's get in
here.
We can't stay out here.
You're not going to pitch yourtent out in that rain.
It's like too crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don't know, Once you see the big, the scary
wicker man, that's wheneveryou're like if there was no
wicker man, the headless, alittle badass statue.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, Like if there was not.
If that wasn't in there, I'd belike yeah, but that's when
you're like no, I think weshould just turn around.
The tents are rain proof yeahbut I think you know, if they
stayed in the tent they probablygot eaten anyways.
I feel like maybe there is anaspect of protection, maybe
because they were with thelittle uh, what would you call

(26:58):
that?
Um, um, effigy?
That's what I'm thinking of.
Maybe he didn't want to destroythe effigy, so he wouldn't just
come in there and knock thewhole house down, versus he'd
probably just rip them out oftins, maybe yeah, he would've
probably still would'vedecorated with their bodies at
least one person would've beencaught.
But yeah, this is where thingsstart getting fucking awesome.

(27:20):
Inside the cabin, they findnecklaces hanging from the walls
that depict similar symbols asthe runes carved in the tree.
While exploring the secondfloor, phil discovers a strange
wooden effigy that is shapedlike a decapitated human torso
with antlers for hands.
Yeah.
Dear God, please turn aroundand go back.
Please stop.
You have to get out of thisforest.
Don't stay any longer.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Let's just close this door and sleep downstairs,
it'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, just run.
So during the night the fourare plagued by nightmares.
We only see Luke's dream.
The lightning from outside ofthe cabin turns into blinding
light on Luke.
When he goes outside the cabinhe is inside the liquor store
where Rob was killed.
The ground is still the forest,but the rest of the store.
Then he acts as if he has beenstabbed and then then the walls
push out and he's awake in thewoods Fucking wild.

(28:07):
That's when I was like thismovie is actually probably just
going to be good all the waythrough.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
It's got holes in his chest.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Yeah, and it's just like what.
This is awesome.
It's just.
This movie is beautiful, right?
Yeah, it really is.
It's man, I don't know.
Just like the set design is sogreat.
And you know, whenever I wastalking about leading up to this
how good this director is withlike architectural horror, which

(28:35):
is, if this is a thing.
It's a scary old house, yeah,scary woods, like the Night
House, which is the next moviehe did after this, which I think
is a little bit better thanthis movie.
It's also kind of folkhorror-esque type of
supernatural things.
It's like house and woods.
But the things he does with thehouse in that movie, where it
feels like a living organismalmost, which is kind of what I

(28:58):
don't know the woods are aliveand it brings in the liquor
store and it just looks so cooland the fluorescent lights on
the liquor store and it justlike feels it just looks so cool
and the fluorescent lights onlike the ground looks so rad and
I never thought I wanted to seethat and I'm so glad I've seen
it multiple times now.
But yeah, just a great littlesequence.
It's very disorienting and it'slike what is this about?

(29:20):
Right?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Is there just is it just?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
isn't it just a creature?
But then it's like which?
We don't know yet if you watchit for the first time.
But it's like what is this?
Is this a weird dream?
It's fun that you find outlater.
It's this little monster, sillylittle monster.
This monster is silly Come onmonster.
So everybody's waking up now.
The next morning, luke findsthat he has sustained a set of

(29:45):
strange puncture wounds on hischest.
Hutch is screaming and he wethimself.
Damn dude.
That's embarrassing as hell.
He made it out of it and, likenothing weird happened the rest
of the time.
Everybody like Hutch.
You remember that time youpissed yourself.
Oh God, that was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
It was a baby.
Maybe he just drank too muchwater, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
We watched Superbad recently and there's this part
where, like Dave Franco's in itand like it's like this part
where shit, I forgot his name,but Jonah Hill's character he's
like on the soccer field talkingto Michael Cera and Dave
Franco's like hey, get out ofhere, jonah Hill.
He's like, hey, why don't yougo wet yourself again?
He's like I was in the fourthgrade.

(30:28):
It's like no one forgets.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
It's like that's exactly what happens and that's
the horror that the monsterbrings up to him every time.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, it's like oh no , I'll always have this dream of
peeing myself.
And then Dom is leaned upagainst the wall outside his
sleeping bag crying for his wifeGail.
Luke finds Phil in the atticnaked and kneeling in prayer in
front of the effigy man.
That would be the wild one.
Just why am I naked?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
I was.
I was with him whenever he wasso upset about it.
He's like what the fuckhappened to me?
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
It's like hey, I didn't do this.
I don't sleepwalk, I don't prayto effigies and I didn't take
my clothes off and walk up therewhile I was awake and
everybody's like.
I don't want to talk about it.
And I'm like guys, why was Idoing that?
It's just.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
So you make Xanax with alcohol?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, and that's what I like about feels character.
Feels characters like I'mactually genuinely worried guys,
I don't know what's going onhere.
Then it's nice that, like, lukehas gas lights them.
Yeah, it's like, oh, we, wedon't want to think about stuff
like that, I'm like what are theodds?
four people have a nightmare thesame night, to the point where
you're gonna pee yourself.
You leaned up on a cornercrying when you were laying next

(31:49):
to all four three of your otherfriends in your sleeping bag.
Now you're out and like cryingto your wife and there's a guy
upstairs oh embarrassing, butLuke doesn't tell him.
Hey guys, this happened to melast night.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Do you think they all noticed the blood stains on his
shirt?

Speaker 1 (32:05):
only Phil noticed it at first and it's like, yeah,
and I woke up in the middle of aforest, so that's two really
weird ones.
And you guys also hadnightmares.
So like what are we doing here,guys?
But the group leaves the cabinand continue to travel deeper in
the woods like a bunch ofsmarty pants, Deeper and deeper.
They're trying to find theirway out.

(32:26):
As they exit the cabin thereare even more runes on the trees
.
Jesus, please don't keep going.
Stop, the runes are pointingthis way, it's like hey wait, is
that a giant monster with hismouth open?
Let's just walk straight in.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
There's an arrow in the store like the lights of the
sun.
It's like pointing Sudden death.
Here there's a trap set up byWile E.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Coyote Just a pack of wolves licking their lips.
So Dom sees a path of brokentree branches and yells that he
is tired and just wants to getout.
Fucking, just kill Dom.
I'd be like they're like stop,let him go.
I'd just be like you know what.
I'm just going to try my bestto walk out of here and follow a
trail out.
I'm not doing this with youguys.

(33:11):
If Dom wants to go that way anddie, he can.
So instead of arguing with him,they just follow God.
You cannot let your dick-headedfriends control your life.
Okay, just don't do it.
If someone is being ignorantbecause they're hurt, just be
like.
If you want to go by yourself,you can.
We're going this way, you canfollow us, or you can die out
there alone with no compass.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, I did like how Hutch he's like I'm going to
have to pull rank.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's like you should of the compass and
you have the map.
Yeah, oh fun.
So.
So phil wants to talk aboutwhat happened, but hutch and dom
don't want to talk about it.
Luke is curious as well.
Hutch shuts them up, uh,calling it bullshit, ghost
stories, and they continueforward as we hear the noises of

(33:58):
the creature we're getting outof.
Yeah, it's like oh, I justreally had to pee, guys, it was
raining.
A lot of noises outside rolledover in a puddle yeah, I was
just screaming because it hurtswhen I pee.
So they start seeing what looksto be man-made trees cut down
and another cabin, but theystill keep pushing forward.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Those little tree torches are cool.
Yeah, those are rad I didn'tknow that was a thing.
I wonder if that's real, ifthat's something that they see,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I mean it feels real right.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
That's really cool, Because I've seen people make
those like superheated, likecampfires out of tree stumps and
like they just burn super hotand they burn forever.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, so like that's gnarly, that's what I need to do
with my tree stump in thebackyard, just build a fire pit
around it.
Oh, did you see that?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
guy who did that in the middle of a city.
He's trying to burn out a stumpand it burned for months.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Really and it never went out.
Maybe I won't burn my treestump.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh the fire went underground and the smoke was
coming out of the ground.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Oh, that's a rat as hell, though, just bring people
over during Halloween.
It's just the devil,accidentally set the world it's
like dang it.
I burned China, so there'spushing forward, but bitch ass,
Dom needs to rest and Phil hashad, has bad boots.
His feet hurts it constantly islike these are the wrong boots.

(35:21):
I picked bad boots and a pumpupon climbing a ridge in order
to gain some perspectiveregarding their location.
Luke sees different kinds oftrees in the woods.
It's very quiet and he's likereally pissed off.
He's like fuck, and then he'slike the camera's slowly zooming
in and it was fun the firsttime.
I watched this.

(35:42):
So even the first time I waswatching it with my wife, when
it first came out on Netflix inlike 2017 or 18, you know,
because it was the forest I waslike there's gotta be shit in
these woods, right, because it'sthe woods.
Yeah, there's shit in the woods, you know.
But you know, I was constantlykind of looking for things.
I remember specifically thisscene, the first.

(36:04):
Then I was like it's not moving, I can't really tell.
And then you just like, kind ofthe side of my eye, I see the
hand move.
I'm like let's fucking go.
This movie is going to be likemaking me paranoid by looking
everywhere.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
It's so cool.
I love it.
It kind of makes you connectwith the way people may have
looked at before us back thenand like how these mythologies
could have ever came to beStarted right, yeah, Just like
paranoia and woods when you'realone.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
It's terrifying and I do love like before he goes up
there.
They're kind of having thisargument Cause they're like hey
Dom, we gotta go.
Okay, we can't just keepsitting here, we gotta get out
of here for night time.
But he's got an owie and thenLuke's like fuck this.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I'm going up there.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
I'll be right back, um, but yeah, it's great, and so
, apparently, throughout thisfilm you can see the eyes of the
creature, cause, you know, it'slike very piercing eyes.
It's a lot like, um, you knowwhat?
Was it midnight mass ormidnight mass?
That Netflix show yeah, youknow how they had the eyes.
Yeah, like the vampires had theeyes.

(37:08):
It was really great.
Very similar to the eyes inthis creature, which is what I
really like, but apparently youcan see the eyes in the forest
throughout the film.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
But that's what everyone was saying I thought
maybe I could sometimes, butthen I was like maybe I didn't.
I was like I was looking hardfor stuff in the background.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
God damn.
But it's a beautiful reveal.
It makes the rest of this movieeven like more amped up,
because you're constantly tryingto look for the horror and then
, whenever, if you don't see it,and then you see it move, it's
like damn it, it would havekilled me if I was out there,
but yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
So he sees the hand wrapped around the trunk of a
distance and it was very high up.
I didn't see the hand, oh, youdidn't.
I saw a little bit of movementand then the camera went away so
good.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
So, while trying to discuss his findings with the
group, dom is doubtful of hisreport, and argument ensues
wherein Dom reveals that heblames Luke for Rob's death and
calls Luke cowardly for failingto act during the robbery.
So Luke punches Dom like hedeserves.
Here's just, you know.

(38:15):
I didn't really like Dom'scharacter because he's a weasley
ass bitch.
Right, he's just one of thoseguys who's going to complain,
make everything harder foreverybody, even though it's
already a hard situation.
We should just like buck up andjust try to get out of this
damn forest, though I dounderstand his knee does look
pretty bad, yeah, but it's likedo you want to die in these
woods?
We need to go um.
But dom wouldn't have doneanything right.

(38:37):
At most he probably would havefrozen like rob and just stood
there and also also got hit,yeah right, it's the classic.
It's like if was there, I wouldhave done this and this.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Oh, I hate that shit.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, because when I got mugged, everybody's told me
what they would have probablydone in that situation I was
like no, you would have gottenshot yeah.
Because the person had a gun,yeah, and you would have caught
it.
Threw the bullet back at him.
It's like it makes me hate Don,and when he got punched I was

(39:09):
like hell, yeah, yeah, what areyou gonna do now?
Oh, you're not doing anythinglike you would have done in the
liquor store the second bestpunch in the movie.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yeah, cause?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I love what old people get in the movies funny
when they deserve it, when theydeserve it.
It's very, which is funnybecause it's very reminiscent of
the.
Well, we'll wait till we getthere.
I'll make sure to bring up NickCage's Wicker man, but, yeah,
very satisfying when Dom getspunched in the face.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
He's like oh, you broke my nose, it's not even
broken, shut up.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
And then what really sucks is whenever he goes and
they talk, he talks to Hutchlike Luke does and he's like
Luke's like Hutch.
I mean you don't blame me, doyou?
And he's like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
It's like what would?

Speaker 1 (40:02):
y'all done right.
You had two people with weaponsand you had nothing except for
bottles around them, which maybeis surrounded by.
But it sucks for luke, becauseI mean, like you never know how
you're gonna react in asituation like that.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
You could tense up and you could both be dead and
you can think about it forever,yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
So oh, dom Dom.
Yeah, he looks like a hero,doesn't?

Speaker 2 (40:28):
he what if he was gonna throw something but he
couldn't figure out whichvintage?

Speaker 1 (40:31):
yeah, man, I really wanted to buy this, though I
can't.
I can't ruin this, I gotta savethese.
I really like this one.
Wait, is this?
He looks over in the wall.
You break it.
You buy it.
It's like damn sorry, can't doit, guys.
All right.
So as they continue, they finda buried tent and see a wallet
that has a date from 1984.

(40:53):
Please just turn around, justget out of this forest, come on,
guys.
So they stop for the night.
Dom's knee is swollen andPhil's feet are killing him.
Hutch tells Luke that he shouldgo out ahead of them in the
morning to get help, while Hutchstays with the gang.
Then Luke hears more noisesfrom the woods.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
There was a part after, when they found this tent
and all this stuff, they'relike who would just leave all
their shoes and all this stuffhere?
And you know, and the nextscene is they're all taking off
their shoes.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
In their tents.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I was like God damn it.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
I don't know, guys, maybe they were attacked.
Keep going.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Keep going, keep going a little further.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Maybe there was Elks up in the trees and they were
being stalked by something andthe kids were probably seeing
something and the dad was likeno, you guys are just.
We told some ghost stories,y'all are just scared.
We'll just keep pushing on.
Come on guys, come on guys.
So yeah, and then it's laterthat night.
Luke is in his tent and hehears noises from creatures

(41:58):
around him.
He peeks out of his tent andsees the store again and Rob
getting hit and the killer thistime calling him a coward, and
it wasn't a him, it was like himkilling, I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I thought it was, it was it was the robber guy, but
it turns into him oh did it.
And like he's leaning becauseyou know he thinks it's his
fault yeah, it's his fault.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
yeah man, I didn't even notice that was him.
Holy shit, jason, thanks broNow next time we watch it we're
not on it, but yeah.
Then after he sees that, heducks back into his tent and
hides.
Then Luke snaps out of hisnightmare by screams,
discovering that Hutch's tent isempty.
Three rush deeper into thewoods following Hutch's screams.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Awesome, the tent gets snatched up in the air yeah
.
That was sweet.
That's so good, it reminded meof Hereditary.
Yeah, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
And it's great, because we still don't know how
tall this creature is.
We assumed it's tall but sincewe saw a human hand, it's like,
well, it's probably just a humanright.
Then, yeah, so by dawn theyrealize they have come lost and
cannot recall where the campsitewas, because they're like, hey,
luke, we got to stop running,we're not going to be able to
find our stuff.
And then next time it cuts tothem they're like walking in the

(43:10):
daylight Like they have none oftheir stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
They just waited the night, through the night.
Yeah well, I think they triedto find it.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
And then they just kind of sat and was like shit
we're fucked.
It's like all they had withthem at this point.
But then by dawn they realizethey've become lost.
They decide to continue thesearch without their tents and
supplies.
Three come upon Hutch, impaledon three on tree branches, much
like the gutted deer they foundearlier.
The group retrieves Hutch'sbody for his compass and knife

(43:37):
and then give him an impromptuburial by covering his body with
tree branches.
Great little scene, becausethey're just walking and they're
like and they're like oh God,if only there was signs that
this could potentially happen tous.
But this is the first timewe're seeing anything impaled on
a tree.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
No, way it would have ever happened to us.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Maybe you guys should have I don't know turned around
, not gone further into theforest, and maybe saw the one
warning sign and immediatelyturned around and just walked to
to normal, safely out of theplace.
I don't know.
Guys, Immediately go back theway you came.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Out of the question Almost immediately as you
entered the forest right.
So you know, because you onlywalked probably like 30 minutes
into the forest and saw a deadelk.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I don't know, man, you know there were no signs.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I mean, I guess not.
If only they could.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
If they could read runes?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Yeah, if they read runes, they'd be like oh, that
says my property, okay, well,let's just continue.
So they continue on and theyare starting to lose it.
Dom thinks it's Swedishhillbillies, yeah, and then I
just think that's Swedish chef.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
Hurdy, hurdy, hurdy.
The sweetest chef.
Yeah, Hardy, hardy, hard.
Oh squeal like a pig that wentlike Scottish for a second Okay,
okay, okay, Okay, okay.
I love Luke's got this one line.
There are three of us in one ofit and I got a fucking knife.
Oh yeah, it's like, yeah, butyou already know it's big, right
.
It's picking things up andputting them in trees.

(45:05):
It's either a giant monster ora bunch of hillbillies, right?
Then we have like a slow panout of the woods and it's
nothing but woods around them.
Yeah, Eee, scary.
So they stop to drink somenasty water and notice a pot and
footsteps on the ground,Straight diarrhea.
Yeah, feels like are we goingto follow this?
And they're like nah, dog, andthey're going to continue.

(45:28):
Now they're going southwest,I'm assuming, or they're still
just following the yeah, they'retrying to go southwest.
As they walk, we see somethingbig moving in the background.
This is where we see themwalking and it's zooming in.
You're like, all right, is hegoing to be like hand wrapped
around a tree again?
There's this perfect littlesliver in the middle of the
frame and then, as they're kindof walking out of frame, you

(45:50):
just see it in the background,kind of walk off and it's like,
oh wait, that's a big thing,that was a big thing.
It's tall.
So, yeah, they reach a top of aridge.
Dom and Phil are exhausted.
Luke leaves Phil and Dom on thelower top of a ridge.
Dom and Phil are exhausted.
Luke leaves Phil and Dom on thelower part of a ridge, climbing
a hill that provides anoverview of the entire forest.

(46:12):
He realizes that they arerelatively close to the edge of
the forest and also spots smokerising from distant campfires.
It's the walking paths yeah.
So it's like no matter whatthey're going to have to go
through that.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Oh, did you ever see the 13th warrior of Antonio
Banderas?
I have not.
That is one I've wanted towatch.
There's there's a, because it'sin the kind of the same area,
right, and they see, I didn'tknow that they see people with
lights going through the forestand they call it like some kind
of snake, like that's what itkind of reminded me of.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Oh, you know, actually, maybe maybe I'm
confusing that movie withsomething else, I don't know,
but it sounds interesting.
I didn't know.
It was like, it was like inSweden and stuff.
Well, it was in like Norse.
Oh, gotcha Like, or is it kindof just like people in the woods
?
Accidentally it was a periodthese things.
It was a period, it was it wasa period.

(47:09):
It was a period the goodadministration attracts bears
anchorman and I wonder if 13Warriors is on something.
I'd have to watch it so.
So yeah, he sees all thecampfires.
He rejoins the two and tellthem the news, but finds them

(47:30):
with their flashlights pointedtowards the trees saying they
heard a noise.
Suddenly, phil is dragged offscreen by a creature posing as a
tree.
It's so cool how well it blendsin with everything, cause I
even go back to record it.
I'm like, yeah, it's dark, itlooks like a tree, big, long,
spindly legs.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
You literally cannot see this thing until it moves,
cause it blends.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Because I even go back to record it.
I'm like, yeah, it's dark, itlooks like a tree, Big, long,
spindly legs.
And then, like you literallycannot see this thing until it
moves because it blends, it'scamouflaged so well, it's great,
Because you know it has giantantlers and it looks and it's
like skinny bony, so it lookslike a tree.
So, yeah, Luke runs and runsinto a tree and is put back into
the liquor store where we seehim run out and see Dom, Phil

(48:06):
and Hutch outside.
He snaps out of it and seesPhil's flashlight with blood
misting down around it Beautiful.
He hears the creature allaround him.
Luke gets jumped, scared by Dom, who's hiding like a little
bitch, and urges him to run withhim.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Yeah, and urges him to run with him.
I thought for sure Dom was dead.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Yeah, I was like I want him to die.
Why couldn't?
Phil live.
He's the one that had to getnaked and pray to the effigy,
and so, yeah, they get to theirfeet and they begin to run and
the creature gives them chase.
I love it, though, when they'rekind of hiding.
They're like we're going tofucking die.
It's like on the count of threethough when they're kind of

(48:47):
hiding, they're like we're gonnafucking die.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
It's like on the couch one, two, three, they're
just like still just sittingthere.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
It's like okay, just go um.
So they pass phil's body,impaled on branches of a tree
near a path of torches thatleads to a small village.
They seek shelter in the firstbuilding they see, and collapse
on the floor, only to be beatenunconscious by its occupants.
Yeah, great little scene.
They just run in.
They're like, oh, we're safe,kick to the face, yeah, and you

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kind of see people praying toLittle Stone.
So when they awaken they findthemselves restrained by their
hands in the basement with weirdchanting around them oh, we're
safe.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, finally, and.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
And then an elderly woman enters and this is your
first sign of shit Elderly woman.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Not talking Chewing something she has a weird look
on her face Never good.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
So the woman enters the basement and inspects the
puncture marks on Luke's chestand gives him some water.
She pulls down her dress alittle bit and reveals the same
pattern on her chest.
It's like should we touchwounds.
She does not give water to Dom,she turns to leave the basement
, utters a command in a foreignlanguage which prompts two men
to grab Dom, hit him over thehead and bring him to the upper

(49:56):
floor of the cabin.
Kick his ass.
Yeah, he's just like screaminglike oh God.
And you're like man, they mustbe really beating him up.
But we'll see what he'sactually screaming about in a
second.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Because, yeah, I was confused, yeah, it's great, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
So a younger woman enters the basement, explains
that preparations are being madefor sacrifice.
Sometime later, dom is escortedback to the basement, beaten
and bloodied but still alive.
Tells Luke his nightmare in thecabin.
He says he saw the peoplegrabbing him and sacrificing him
.
And the cabin he says he sawthe people grabbing him and
sacrificing him and his wife wasthere, like the earlier where
he had his nightmare in thefirst cabin.
Um, he explains to luke that hewill serve as human sacrifice

(50:33):
to the creature and instructshim to find a way to escape and
destroy the village.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
So what were they doing to prepare him for a
ritual?

Speaker 1 (50:40):
um well, so we're about to have like luke's gonna
get free and he to go up.
I'm assuming they're allprobably just chanting around
him.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
They're probably all just it sounded like they were
kicking his ass.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Yeah, I think they definitely were a little bit
Well.
I mean, he did get hit in thehead once and I'm sure they
probably like he's probablyresisting and beat him a little
bit, but I think they're alljust kind of chanting around him
.
I don't know.
That's what Colts do, right?

Speaker 2 (51:04):
They just like to chant?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Chant and, like you know, be just generally bad
people.
So Dom is taken outside of thecabin and brought to a wooden
post where his hands are tiedbehind his back as they shift
the night.
Dom is tired of waiting.
He's like hell with this, let'sget it on.
It's like I love it.
It's like the one part whereI'm like, oh crap, dom's kind of

(51:27):
funny, I know yeah.
He's like are we just going towait all day here?
Suddenly, a roar can be heardfrom the forest.
The captors immediately followtheir niece in worship.
Dom has a vision of his wifeemerging from the trees and
holding his face in her hands.
This, in reality, is thecreature that has been pursuing
the men.
It bears resemblance to thewooden effigy discovered in the

(51:49):
abandoned cabin.
It's rad, it's badass, it's got, it's like a hood yeah, a hood.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
And the glowing eyes and the little beady eyes like
hey.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Oh, I got your head.
It's like I love the little guyGives him a smooch.
It's like I love the little guyGives him a smooch.
He's like man, just shoot himthere, axe him there or shoot
him there, you know.
So the creature removes Domfrom the post and you get this
rad shot where he's justcarrying him by his head and
impales him on branches on anearby tree, leaving him to die.

(52:22):
What a terrible death.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Awful, pretty horrible.
I mean, at least you got to seesomething you never thought
you're gonna see before you diedlike well, I didn't, I didn't
see this one coming, you know ifI had to put ways, I was gonna
die, not my top 100 list, justsoiling yourself this was ways
101, I thought I would die.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Oh pretty awesome, though I love the monster.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, it's amazing, it's great, oh, and we haven't
got to the best part with themonster yet.
We're about there, though, soDesperate Escape.
Oh, this is actually probablythe most brutal part of the
whole movie.
Luke breaks one of his, breakshis own thumb to get loose of
one of his restraints.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Ugh, uh, fuck, dude yeah, I was like was that really
, was that really necessary?

Speaker 1 (53:07):
did it even how would it really?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
done that much.
I don't know.
I guess I mean if you, I don'treally know what that would do
other than like maybe help you.
Like, squeeze it yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
I'm assuming it's just like because you can just
like flex your thumb any way youneed to it was always like I
was like ow that you know what.
That's too far movie.
You could have just chewed itright.
But like the thing you'resupposed to do.
If I remember correctly fromself-defense classes that they
gave us in I think it was likeseventh grade or whatever we had
these like little periods wherewe were able.

(53:41):
They kind of gave us somethingfun to do.
That's awesome.
Mine was like rock, rock buildmodel.
We had like a film class, wehad like bondage, uh, a self, a
self defense one, and thenthere's this kind of like fun
things that most schools don'tdo.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
It's like hey, here's a fun little defense for nerds,
yeah, so that's what.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
And then you know, I always like flex your hands, so
that even though I'm like whatdo you mean?
I ain't got fucking wrists atall.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
I know they don't bulk up your wrist muscles.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
It's like I mean my, my right one, you know, a little
bit stronger for whateverreason Okay, so um, yeah, he
like breaks his thumb.
Um, okay, so yeah, he likebreaks his thumb and but he
can't undo the second one,because he didn't break that
thumb, I guess.
And now you know he broke histhumb, so he has no use of that
other hand and then a youngwoman comes in and when Luke

(54:38):
asks about the creature, sheexplains that it is called Jotun
, a godlike figure stemming fromScandinavian mythology, and
that they provided sacrifices inreturn for immortality.
She pulls out a whiteboard yeah, hold on a second, let me
explain this perfectly Bringsout PowerPoint.
She states that Luke will takepart in the ritual where he will

(55:00):
submit to the creature and jointhe cult or be killed.
Guess why?
Him, she tells him, because hispain is great, right?

Speaker 2 (55:08):
so.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I don't know if it feeds off the pain or if it's
just like out of all four ofthem that he had to choose from,
it's like he'll most likelyjoin the cult because the
monster feeds off the pain thator it's just like he thinks he's
more susceptible to join thecult because you know cults,
they feed off your uh, you knowyour fears and your insecurities

(55:30):
or, if you're, on you know badluck, or you know no money or
something or a great pain.
They'll be like, hey, we'llmake it better that's
essentially what this, uh, whatthis creature is doing.
It's like I'll take away allyour pain and you get to live
forever, would?
have worked unless he saw thething upstairs which we're about
to get to, because after sheleaves, luke's breaks freeze

(55:50):
from his restraints and leavesthe basement.
He ventures to the upper floorof the cabin, hearing prayers
and screaming, coming frombehind a closed door and armed
with a burning torch, he likepumps himself up, like alright,
here we fucking go, opens thedoor and finds a twisted
congregation of mummified butstill living humans.
Fucking rad.
Evidently this is the endresult of the immortality

(56:12):
granted by the worship ofcreatures.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
He just gets to be a mummy.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Yeah, so it's the first time I watched it, I was
like I'm enjoying it.
I'm enjoying it.
This is kind of getting to thethird act, which most third acts
of horror movies.
It's always like alright, weknow how this is gonna go now.
But then, whenever he opens hisdoor, I was like oh, I was like
oh hold on a second.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
This is rad.
This is a cool party.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
This is a really cool movie.
Now this movie just went up afew stars in my book.
I don't know.
There's just something so hellacreepy about hearing a bunch of
noises opening a door and youjust see corpses yeah, but
they're alive, yeah.
And then, even though it's likereally kind of muppety and

(56:56):
goofy, when when the one startsmoving.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
I was like, oh, this is oh, I know.
I was like orgasm.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
It's so good.
It's everything I want in amovie.
Immortality sucks.
Yeah, it's just like, oh wait,everything's bad, no matter
what's gonna happen, to luke atthis point all of it sucks a
good thing.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
They were like really flammable.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yeah well, I mean I thought, boy, they're all just
ash just dried out yeah they'rejust like kindling at this point
and it's the worst place to putall these dead bodies there's
no smoking sign yeah uh, no,what a great reveal.
It's like, no matter what,there's gonna be horror wherever
, because even if you livedforever and you didn't age, or
whatever your body is.
No, what a great reveal.
It's like, no matter what,there's gonna be horror wherever
, cause even if you livedforever and you didn't age, or

(57:36):
whatever your body just decaysyou would constantly be in fear
that you have to sacrificesomething to this creature, or
it's gonna come and kill you, oryou get older and you become
this forever like death becomesus.
Yeah, it's like a differenttype of hell.
Or you're Luke at the end ofthis movie and you get to
survive, but now none of yourfriends live.
There is no like yippee.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
I don't know, I could have given a yippee.
I got it.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Yeah, there would be.
His yippee is so, followingDom's last witch, he sets the
worshippers on fire.
This axe attracts the beast,who emerges from the forest to
find the cabin burning.
Um luke goes downstairs andpunches the old lady.
Yes, yeah, because the lady hasthe same face she's had this

(58:23):
entire time and then he sees herand he just takes a second,
thanks, and he's like ah, fuckit so good.
And it reminds me of the wickerman movie with nicholas Cage,
where he was just runningthrough this island punching
women the whole time.
It's always so sudden and crazy.

(58:45):
Yeah, you can just trip her.
It's so great and a fun thingthing.
A little fact in the book thisshe's, this older woman's
considered a witch and she hashooves for feet.
Nice, yeah um clip cloppingaround if I was her, I'd just

(59:08):
walk in like I'm on a road thewhole time, because I love like
the sound of like horse horseswalking on roads.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
It's a very sad Sounds like two empty halves of
coconuts and you're banging themtogether.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
It's a nice sound for me that, and like when cars are
slowly driving on gravel.
It's like ASMR for me.
I don't know, it's weird.
Probably because I owned horsesand gravel roads, but so but uh
.
So yeah, he knocks the shit outof this old lady and, in a rage
, the creature kills all theremaining worshippers.
Luke uses this opportunity toescape from the burning cabin

(59:39):
undetected, armed with a rifleand an axe.
Let's talk about this littlelike closet they have, is it
from all the people?
yes it's so fun.
It's all the people that theycaptured.
They just kept all their stuff,so you have all these guns from
people that, like I guess,fought back in those days.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
The cultists have been alive for like hundreds of
years at this point.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Well, the ones up top , yeah, maybe those probably
been up there for like three,four hundred years maybe does?

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
it gives them extra long life, but not vitality yeah
, you don't keep to keep yourage you still age.
That'd be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
They've been, like been alive since yeah, I mean
days it would have been like,yeah, it'd be great to live
forever until you're get putinto that attic and it's like,
well, this sucks y'all got a tvor anything no tv and I'm
wondering like, do you thinkthey even knew what the?

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I mean they had to have known what all that stuff
was yeah, but it's like I would.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I would just be like disimpel me, dude, disimpel me,
I don't want to be.
Or I'd be like yeah, uh, I'lljoin your cult until I get old
and then I'll yeah, they'llthrow you, throw me off a cliff.
Yeah and just stab me dog so,um, yes, he's got the rifle and
an axe.
Before running into the woods,luke aims and takes a shot at
the creature as about to kill aworshipper.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Let it know where you are.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Yeah, I know it's like why didn't you just run,
dude, especially since it waslike very occupied with this
whole cabin shit?
He was curious, and it's thebeautiful shot, though, where
the cabin's on fire.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
And you got the giant elk and it's just lifting
someone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
And then lifting someone.
And then he just takes aim.
What if it hates bullets, turnsout, hates them and will kill
you if you do it, it doesn'thurt him very much.
Yeah, so the creature pursueshim, attempting to cripple his
mind by causing hallucinationsof his reoccurring nightmare the
fluorescent lights in the woodsand like like there's not as

(01:01:29):
many shelves.
It's more forest than liquorstore at this point.
What a great little sequence.
It looked rad as hell.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
It was so great and it's amazing Takes a bottle and
starts drinking it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Yeah, it's like damn I guess, since I'm here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
You drunk as fuck boy Could have been drinking
buddies.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
The creature's got like 240ies taped to his hands
Like where are you going, luke?
Let's party.
So the creature eventuallycatches him and forces him onto
his knees, offering Luke achance to submit.
The creature shows his fullform by standing on its hind
legs and creating a tower ofrotisserie.

(01:02:10):
Hell yeah, yeah, boy.
Are you kidding me?
Best shot of rotisserie?
Hell yeah, yeah, boy, I lovethat shit.
Are you kidding me, Best shotof the whole movie?
Because it's just like you gotlike its front legs, you got its
antlers and then you also gotits arms.
It's like a four-story tower ofjust monstrosity.
Yes, and it looks.
It's like every time it likegets a little taller.
It's like a new design.

(01:02:30):
It just stretches out.
Every time it stretches moreand more.
It's like what is this thing?
It's so cool.
I love it.
Whoever came up with the idea?
I wish I could shake your damnhand.
All six of them.
Yeah, what a great creature.
Totally worth.
I mean, even if this movie wasworse, I'd still probably

(01:02:51):
recommend it for the movie.
It's one of the best creatures,like monster creatures.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I've ever seen For a while.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Like I don't remember , I don't know what else there
really is, for the past fewyears at least.
So he sees an axe and he's alsoseeing Rob next to the axe and
it's like Rob looks at him.
He's like now I'm going to act,or now I'm going to act.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Or now I'm going to axe the three old ladies that
he's punching.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
Yeah, Luke, what if that's what he did?
Instead of seeing Rob, he sawan old lady and then looked at
the creature and it became anold lady and it's like, yeah.
I'm ready, so Luke decides totake action.
finally, he uses an axe which hehad previously taken from one
of the worshippers to strike thecreature on its head.
He then follows the sunlightemerging from the forest into an

(01:03:38):
open field.
The creature does not emergefrom the tree line and it seems
unable to follow.
The monster roars at him and hescreams back in triumph.
Luke turns from the monster andheads into the direction of a
paved road with a passing car.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Sign of civilization, get set by a car Dang.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Rats, I love the idea that like the creature screams,
luke screams.
The creature screams again.
Luke screams like you know what.
I don't even want to fuckingfollow you anymore.
I'll let you go on purpose.
I wouldn't even fully try.
So, like you got one lucky shot, I mean really like he would

(01:04:17):
have never got out there if itwasn't for, like you know, the
dumb like cultist people.
Yeah, hey guys, you gotta tiethem better.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
Tie their arms and feet at the same time, and their
technology isn't that greatyeah maybe they could've used
some of the all those yearsliving, I don't have knowledge,
though you know couldn't talk toany of the people upstairs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Be like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
I'll tell you how we tied them if they had a record
player, like surely theycould've got some nylon, yeah
right like who's carrying thatrecord player in the woods?

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
some zip ties yeah, I don't know, is that a battery
powered?
zip, I guess it could have beencranked.
Yeah, it had to be, that'sright, that's true, um man,
fantastic film.
Let's get into the point of themovie.
I think uh point is survivaland kind of having survivors
guilt.
Yeah, I think survivors guiltyeah, that's mainly what it is.
And you know people notunderstanding like how scary

(01:05:14):
those actually, those situationsactually are where it's like
shit, it's life or death andit's like I want to protect my
friend, but why is my friendantagonizing these guys?
Come on, let's just get rid ofit.
And so you never know howyou're gonna act in those
situations.
And it's a fucked up feeling.
It was a movie about someonelike finally getting the courage
to punch a woman fighteverybody, but again so late.

(01:05:37):
All his friends died, but I meanhe didn't know he didn't let
him die.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
He kind of had nothing to do with it but you
know, yeah, and also don't be alittle Weasley bitch who's
thinking they could do somethingdifferent.
Dom you think the monster wouldhave even hurt him, since he
had the marks.
Well, he would, because themarks was like the sign, like
hey, you're going to be a partof the cult, I'm going to give
you the opportunity.
That's why he keeps pushingthem down to bow and then he

(01:06:03):
keeps standing up.
He's like I'm not going to joinyour cult.
He's like, all right tree, I'llkill you.
It's me, yotan and Mr Hanky.
Yeah, so that is what we thinkthe point of the movie is.
If you have another idea, sendus an email.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Now we're going to hit our next Exterior decorating
.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
Yeah, oh God, Yotan's so good at it.
I bet he loves Christmas.
He finds the tallest tree andputs as many humans as he can in
it.
Then during Christmas he burnsit, so it's like lights.
So we're going to head to ournext category the good, the bad,
the ugly, the fine.
We discussed the good of thefilm something we liked, the

(01:06:45):
scene, the character.
The bad, something we didn't.
The ugly, something that didn'tage well.
The fine, something that didage well.
So I, the ugly, something thatdidn't age well to find
something that did age well.
So, uh, I thought the good islike it's just a very, uh,
creative story and you know it'sfun.
Folk horror, which is somethingI love a lot, and, um, I think
it's well plotted.
I think there's only like alittle down moment, uh, and it

(01:07:07):
kind of feels like it's one ofthose.
Once they get to the cabin,that's where I'm like I kind of
know how these movies are,because I've watched a lot of
old horror movies like this.
So when they're in that I'mlike all right, we're gonna,
we're gonna have to deal withthis for a little bit.
But it was that reveal of thepeople up top where I was like
this is a little different, thisis different.
I mean, I also think rave spall,the main character, luke, I

(01:07:27):
think he did he's fantastic helooks so much like simon pegg
yeah he, he looks just sofucking british he looks like a
british guy he's britishhandsome and this is what all
british handsome people looklike in my mind.
But yeah, he's like in bigshort, he's uh.
You ever seen life of pie?
yeah, he's a guy uh,interviewing um the older

(01:07:51):
version of him telling the storyof on the boat he's in Hot Fuzz
.
He's which is funny that yousay Simon Pegg.
He's like one of the.
I think he's the one that's atwin.
There's like two of them orwhatever.
Yeah, and yeah, the ritual.
That's what he's mostly knownfor.
He's been in a shit ton ofstuff.

(01:08:12):
He's in jurassic world, fallenkingdom.
He's like the bad guy in thatstuff.
Yeah, great little actor.
He's always better than usuallythe movies he's in, um, but
yeah, that's it.
You got anything else for thegood?

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
I just I love the creature yeah, the creature
creature and the scary woodsyeah, it's amazing it worked so
well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
I put the woods that age well, woods age well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Sometimes the monsters don't fit where they
you know, like the area wherethey are and that's maybe that's
part of the horror is thatthey're out of place.
Yeah.
But he's the one out of place.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
They're strangers in a strange land.
Yeah, yeah.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
For land.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Um for me the bad I put, I was like it's kind of my
bad and the ugly, like twothings.
I did not.
It's just all horror movieshave like a character like this
and I'm always like, oh dude,what if we just had a bunch of
cool people together in thewoods just doing fun stuff?
Yeah, it's kind of like thecabin in the woods, you know
like, even though all thecharacters are acting like

(01:09:16):
assholes, but they're so I don'tknow.
It's funny and cool like dom's,just a straight up piece of
shit I did kind of like himright before he died.
Yeah, whenever he's just kind oflike like, of course, him being
upset because he's like, oh, Igotta be on this pole forever.
It's, it's very, dom.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Let me speak to your manager yeah, and I'll tell you
who I think Dom reminds me of inreal life after the podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Okay, did you have anything other than Dom for the
bad?
He's also my ugly, so I don'thave anything for the ugly
either.
No, I don't really haveanything else.
So do you have any uglies?

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
No, I mean, I think this whole movie aged pretty
well I mean it's yeah, there'snothing I found like horribly
wrong with it.
It was so good, yeah, um, maybethat it never came out on d on
blu-ray yeah, I don't even knowif they have like it's because
it's a netflix film.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
they don't release their shit on Blu-ray or
anything anymore.
It's bullshit.
Unless it's like they're superpopular Stranger Things gets
hard copies and things like thatbecause they can put a $70
price tag on a 4K of that andmake a ton of money and then be
like, hey, we'll make anotherseason 30 years from now.
For the fine.
I put David Bruckner, which youknow, the whole point I was

(01:10:34):
doing this film.
I didn't even say his name tillnow and I was like the whole
point of doing this is becausethere's the VHS.
But we're going to talk moreabout him during the VHS segment
of his that we're going to haveWednesday of this week after
this release.
And also folk horror.
I'm a sucker for this shit.
Anytime I listen to audiobooks,it's mostly folk horror.

(01:10:55):
It's usually kind of NativeAmerican horror.
Oh yeah, because Stephen GrahamJones did like If you want a
really good Native American kindof folk horror, only the Good
Indians.
So good, dude, sounds cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Oh, I'm into that shit I love listening to ghost
like people tell good, likenative americans tell ghost
stories.
Yeah, some of it's the mostfucked shit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Yeah, I love it it's all just to scare people so they
don't do things they don't wantthem to do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
It's awesome spirits and shit yeah coming to life.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
It's so great.
And another one, um, I reallylike there's a book called
sacred animals.
It's kind of about foxes andcute little foxes yeah, well
you'd have to read on um.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
You got anything for the fun, uh, yeah I think, uh, I
love seeing the most extreme ofpeople's imagination like come
to light, like come to thescreen, like the big screen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Yeah, I don't know, it's fucking crazy.
Like it's like, wow, like Idon't know how the book is 100%
compared to this, but it's likeif the book's, if it's a little
bit like the book, they did agood job.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
I feel like, and if, like you, learn about old, like
gods and creatures like Eldritchgods, that people used to
believe in, a long time ago andlike bringing that stuff to this
type of I guess like to themovies.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Yeah, fucking Because you don't see it a lot really,
you know, it's like I feel likemost of that's like in the video
games we play and stuff, yeah,or it's like comic books and
it's always it's always not 100accurate to what, like, they
probably believed in, but I feellike it has the bones of it how
do you think they did themonster?

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
do you think it was all cgi?

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
well, there was like a really long fact.
It's it's a blend of of CGI andpractical effects in some
scenes but, yeah, mostlyprobably CGI and a lot of like
the shots and stuff.
It's wild.
It's like, hey, this is whatall movies should look like, if
you're gonna have CGI in it,because it looked fantastic.

(01:13:07):
Not, there was hardly anypoints where I was like that
looks fake.
I don't think there was onepoint where I was like that
looks like a fake creature, evenwhenever it's like because,
like whenever it's standing onits hind legs and it does its
little pose like worship me,baby, I was just like man.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
All the pretty girls look like this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I was like damn, that looks really good.
I know that's probably CGI, butit looked really good yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
The face of the monster with, like, the eyes on
the hood and the dark face, yeah, like the hidden features.
What do you think it lookedlike underneath?
I don't know, but it reminds meof the monsters from there's a
video game called Return of theObra Dinn.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Oh yeah, I've heard you talk about that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
It looks like those things.
Yeah, I mean, those things arelike riding crabs and shit, but
like oh hell yeah.
But not like, but just love it.
It's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Yeah, yeah.
So that's that category.
And now we're going to hit upour next category, double
feature.
It's where we recommend a moviealongside this movie.
You're never going to guess,mine's also another folklore
horror movie, and you know we'redoing.

(01:14:20):
I did this because we'retalking about the director.
In terms of VHS.
This movie is called theApostle, or just Apostle, and
it's directed by Gareth Evans,who, in VHS too, he has a
segment and it's the best VHSsegment today.
Still, it's really good.
I always wanted this, uh,gareth evans always wanted him
to get, like a enough money tomake his own horror movie and he
did, and it's this great bulkhorror movie.

(01:14:41):
It's a in 1905, a drifter on adangerous mission to rescue his
kidnapped sister tangles with asinister religion cult on an
isolated island.
Sounds a lot like wicker man,doesn't't it?
But yeah, it's great and theway, like the kind of what they
do with the island is reallygreat and like how the effects

(01:15:01):
of the horror is you just haveto watch it, it's got Dan
Stevens in it.
Nice, you know, if you know him,he's great.
He played the Beast in Beautyand the Beast He's's also.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
He was in downton abbey uh, that's where he got
his like fame from really rightoh and uh, yeah, he's just
really handsome and good andeverything that he ever does.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
so he's also in, um, speaking of vhs more one of the
guy, the guy who did, uh, thenew godzilla versus kong and
stuff like that, that directorwhich I'm blanking on right now,
um, godzilla vs Kong and stufflike that, that director which
I'm blanking on right now he dida movie called the Guest and
it's this really synthy80s-style kind of thriller which

(01:15:41):
is really great and it's gotthe girl from it Follows in it
and it's directed by AdamWingard.
It's a really good movie.
You should check that out ifyou want to support people that
are in VHS films.
So, yeah, what do you got foryour double feature?

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
I was thinking the Void.
Oh fuck, that's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
Yeah, I remember watching that.
That movie's really good.
It's the one where the coverhas the triangle.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
It's got the cultists .
It's got big pointy knives, allthe eldritch horror monsters
coming out of a weird dimension.

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
Yeah, they're like stuck in a police station or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
It's like a hospital.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
Yeah, hospital and there's like tentacles and shit,
fucking rules.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
That movie's great oh .

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
I completely forgot about that movie.
That'd been a fun movie to doon the podcast.
Yeah, um, but yeah, that's agreat recommendation.
Y'all should check that out.
And damn, we just finished theritual.
Make sure you join us next weekbecause we're doing another
director that's in the vhssegment.
It's actually the next segmentwe're doing is a ty west segment

(01:16:41):
.
He did x, pearl, maxine,sacrament.
Um, we're doing his.
His second movie, I believe,after the inn.
It's called House of the Devil.
It's a slow burn movie but itfucking rules.
It's very 70s style horror too,which is funny because I think

(01:17:02):
that's probably his favoritesection of horror, because
that's what X kind of was 70s,texas Chainsaw Massacre style.
But this is very muchbabysitter horror.
It's great, it's such a funmovie.
Some people say it's too slow.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
I say Is it like if the Babysitter's Club was just a
stick you got beat with no.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
I'm not going to say anything too much Greta Gerwig's
in it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
The director of Barbie.
Oh nice, you should see what.
Anything too much GretaGerwig's in it.
The director of Barbie?
Oh nice, you should see whathappens to her.
Oh no, can't wait.
Love it, barbie.
They did you wrong, girl.
Yeah, so join us next week forthat.
We are full effect, baby.
We just getting started withour horror month, or month and a
half, nearly two months, ofHalloween.
Yeah, it's the best time of theyear.

(01:17:52):
Agreed, it's getting closer toHalloween.
It's just the horror movies areabout to start watching, all
the ones I kind of banked forthe Halloween season.
There's so many, so there'slike Companion.
Hard Eyes, smile 2 is still beable to watch that 28 weeks
later or years later is about tocome out.
It's coming out on NetflixSeptember 20th.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
Yes, that's in nine days.
I'm going to also own it, alsowatch the movie Friendship, with
Tim Robbins in it.
Oh yeah, bro, I saw the ad forthat.
Yeah, it's everything I wantedin a movie.
It's like he's doing his thing,yeah.
But there's also a story aroundit and it's maybe one of the

(01:18:32):
most stressful, funniest moviesyou'll see.
Is this Will Ferrell, isn't it?
No, paul Rudd, oh, okay, andPaul Rudd's great.
He's like a mixture between hischaracter and Anchorman and
just like a regular guy, yeah,and it's kind of a perfect mix.
But we're not talking aboutthat, because I love everything
about the people in that movieTim Robbins is so good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Yeah, he's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
Stressful, bro.
It's a stressful movie, butit's like I don't know.
It's great.
So yeah, join us next week forthe House of the Devil, not
Friendship, even though I justcan't wait to talk about that
movie on the podcast.
And if you want to leave ussome fan mail, you can it.
There's a link at the top thatsays send us some fan mail.
You click it.
You can text it from your phone.
At the bottom there's our email.

(01:19:16):
We recommend mailbag atgmailcom.
Send us some email that way.
Just whatever you want to send,just you know, make it about
movies, dude.
Um, leave us a review.
We got another new followerthis week, holy.
Holy shit we're slowly going toget a hundred followers, maybe
in another year.
Um, yeah, if you know anybodythat wants to listen to a fun

(01:19:39):
podcast, we're just two dudesjust to talk about movies and
usually make jokes about stuffand this is a podcast for you,
tell everybody in the review.
Hey guys, funny.
They also also sometimes dolike baby kid talk.
So that was a lot of thisepisode.
I hope you enjoy that.
It's fun.
For us it's either that or heytoots.
It's like our two things we goto.

(01:20:00):
I'd like to thank Joey Prosserfor our intro and outro music.
You can follow him on X at MrJoey Prosser.
I don't know if anybody evenuses that platform anymore,
except to just yell about thingsthat they are upset about,
mainly the Tennessee Titans,because week one game sucked.
But yeah, this has been the weRecommend Podcast.
I've been Jesse, I've beenJason.

(01:20:21):
Hey, there's two of us and onepodcast.
Let's fucking go.
Bye.
Bye you.

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