The Terminator

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello and welcome to the we Recommend podcast, a
movie podcast, where every weekwe recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse.
I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Jason, they said there's a storm coming.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I know because this week we recommend the Terminator
.
That was my bad.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I was supporting you to do it.
I said I was going to do thatpart.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
It's all right, okay, whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
So the Terminator?
Hell yeah, baby, You're close.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Give them to me.
This movie rules it's so good.
What do you think of theTerminator?
Hell yeah, baby, your clothes.
Give them to me.
This movie rules it's so good.
What do you think of theTerminator?
I think it was pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's been so long since I've seen it I don't even
know if I've ever watched thefirst one.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
all the way through, really.
So you've seen the second one.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I've seen the second one a bunch.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, it's funny.
I've seen this one more.
Yeah, I was just thinking whilewatching.
I was like I know every singlepart of this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I thought the guy was John Connor.
Yeah, but no, he's just a timetraveling milk hunter, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Kyle Reese more than I know John Connor, because
Terminator 2, like I don't know,almost said 2-y like Terminator
2-y, just got a little robot onyour head controlling you how
to cook.
Yeah, it's Bluey though, but Idon't know.
I guess we had a recording on aVHS tape of this movie and I
watched it a lot Like recordedoff of television.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, nice.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
And we didn't have the Terminator 2, like that
Judgment Day.
But I saw that one like on TNTa couple of times but I watched
this one a lot.
I prefer Terminator 2, but, man, this movie is just like.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
It's like it's still pretty good it's like this warms
my heart, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It's so 80s and kind of cheesy and the special
effects as a kid rule.
And then you see it now andit's like, oh, this is cute,
yeah, though I will say like Imean the ending.
Like I always, when I thinkback to this movie, I'm like, oh
yeah, the robot looks reallycheesy at the end, and then,
like it cuts to it.

(02:18):
I'm like, oh, this fuckingrobot goes bro, I like it.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It looks so good Is it stop motion, because that's
what it kind of feels like it'sjust like puppetry and
animatronics and things likethat.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's what it is and it looks so it looks great.
There is some CGI, I'm sure,but like.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh yeah, I love when he's walking and it's kind of
jittery and like kind of likebad.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
But it's so creepy I know it's great and like.
This is the movie.
This is the second movie JamesCameron directed.
He was on.
I think we discussed this alittle bit on Aliens when Dakota
was with us, where I told youthat he did Piranha 2, the spot

(02:59):
hunting, because they fly nowand he was just like a special
effects director.
And then they fired thedirector and he's like I'm going
to do it and it was a miserabletime for him.
The movie sucks horribly.
It was filmed in Italy andstuff, so I don't know, are
there a lot of piranhas?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
in Italy?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't think it was supposed to be in Italy, but all
I know is the movie is so bad,it's wild, but hey, it's cool
Cause we're on a fly now, allright, um, but then, like you
know, so he had like thisbackground of being able to do
essentially every job on a filmset Right, and then he becomes
the director that hates it.
So he actually has this scriptthat he wrote and he sold it for

(03:42):
$1.
Oh no To the company.
And he was like I'll sell it toyou for one dollar if you let
me direct.
Oh, that's fun, and I guesshe's just like then that was the
dumbest thing I've ever done,because I should have sold it
for more and not like gave awaythe rights to the terminator to
this company.
Um, but he got to direct and hebecame a legend, I mean
essentially after this aliens,terminator 2, titanic avatar, I

(04:08):
mean, god dang, true lies.
It's like the guy only makesbangers, except for prana 2.
Um, but and there was funnysomething that I was reading is
that so james cameron is knownfor being uh kind of a dickhead
on set?
Oh, he's like hard to work with, no kidding, but like Linda
Hamilton, I said, I think, cameout.

(04:29):
I was like he's a verydifficult man to work with.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
He's an asshole essentially.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
And then Kyle Reese.
The guy who plays Kyle Reese islike the issue with James
Cameron is that he knows how todo every job on the set and he
can do it better than everybody.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
So it's really frustrating to be on a set.
Well, is this what he says,right, yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Well, it's just because he knows how to do every
job and you know, he's just oneof those people that's very
good at filmmaking and it's likeyou can see it through all his
films and it's just like whatcan you do?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
He's better at it.
Wouldn't it be sort of likebeing a jack of all trades but
master of none, kind of thing?
Well, he's one of those fewpeople, just master of all right
.
He just knows how to doeverything zaps on the set on a
lightning strike.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, naked as the day was born, because it's like,
because he was on this film setof the abyss and like I think
people were like made shirts,like just like calling him an
asshole and stuff he's themonster it's one of those things
it sucks because you're like,ah, be nice to everybody.
But then it's like god dang,dude, he owns like every box

(05:35):
office record ever.
At one point, like every decade, he wins the box office record
and it's like I mean, do youhave to be an asshole to be
great at everything?
Like I don't know.
A little bit, I guess, becauseit's you never really find out
that, like, the people that arethe bestest stuff are normal,
cool people that are easy towork with yeah, it's like never

(05:57):
hear that boy, I really went ona rant there.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
No, I guess if you have a vision, you have to
really force everyone yeah to doit and, and maybe it was just
like hey, yeah, I mean, or isthis like the spawn?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Piranha 2 is so terrible, it's like, well, I
have to be a dictator on everysingle set, otherwise my movie
is not going to get made andit's like maybe that's
nightmares of Piranha, 2.
It's funny that you say that.
So while filming Piranha 2, hehad nightmares and that's how he
came up with this movie Shit.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
He had nightmares about robots in the future
attacking him, and that's how hecame up with Terminator 2.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Oh those drugs, why can't I have?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
cool dreams like that .
I don't know.
I never have fucking cooldreams.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
It's always like I'm late for something I do remember
as a kid like we had this, thislike general store, like gas
station nearby and it was likeit was family run and stuff.
Oh no, and this is where Irented all my like movies and
stuff.
Oh man, I remember that shitand it was great.
I would always get a pizza likeevery Friday night and then I'd

(07:00):
rent a movie.
That's cool.
I watched like mike a lot.
That's where, uh, I can'tremember who the kid is that
plays it, but uh, he gets someshoes, basketball shoes yeah,
that michael jordan wore and helike threw him up on the thing
and they fall down and this guygets it now.
He's like mike michael jordan,but anyways yeah I remember

(07:21):
there was.
It was like me and my mom inthis store.
This was during my dream andthere's like a spider after us
video like shoes on and a cat ina hat.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, man, top hat from the movie.
That's horrifying.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
It was coming at me.
I always remember that dream.
It's really weird.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
It's wearing Nike's, like no.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I just, it's like you know, like the movie Cat in the
Hat like with Mike Myers, thehat like with Mike Myers is like
that, but it was a spiderinstead.
I just remember running throughthe store, hiding because I
love that store.
All the sounds of sneakers,like on a basketball court the
only way to beat him, I had toslam dunk over him you beat him

(07:59):
in a dunk contest it's like man,how did I beat a?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
thing with eight arms , I don't know.
At the end, air Bud just ripshis head off us.
It's like man, how did I beat athing with eight arms?
I don't know.
You and air bud team up at theend.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Air bud just rips his head off then air bud turns to
me.
I'm like shit.
Now it's turning into kujo.
Um, are you a terminator boy?
You big into terminator?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
I do like terminator yeah I really liked.
Um, I like the because I saw.
Have you ever been to see theold like terminator?
Yeah, I really liked.
Uh, I like the because I saw.
Have you ever been to see theold like terminator thing at
universal studios?
No, it's like 3d and it'sreally cheesy like just like the
first terminator, because I Ihaven't seen that I saw that
before I saw the terminator, soI didn't really know what was
going on, or why it was socheesy they didn't freaking have

(08:42):
anything terminator related touniversal.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
It's like I don't know if it's a one.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
It's an older one then it's gone.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Now, yeah, I'm sure something less good took over it
.
Um so alright, since I asked ifyou Terminator boy.
Harry Potter yeah, we do getHarry and ghosts.
I'm a Harry boy, harry boy,hell yeah you know type of hell,
yeah, fucking 80s, 90s stuff.

(09:09):
Yeah, which one do you likeprefer Terminator, predator or
Aliens?
Predator I think Predator Ilove Predator.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, it's like a just cause.
He's like a hunter.
You know he's got all thosecool weapons he rips out spines.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
If it bleeds, you can kill it you know hell, yeah,
we're gonna do Predator.
City, don't worry alright, Iwas just curious.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
I think I'm more of a best handshake in film history
they are totally gay for eachother it's great.
Love it.
Their muscles kiss yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I think out of the three I'd actually probably go
aliens, terminator, thenpredator, oh yeah, but I mean
they're three perfect movies.
So, like, what am I complainingabout?
Is this arnold's best roleplaying terminate, a terminator?
I think so, especially t2.
He, yeah, like you want to crybecause you love him so much
towards the end.

(10:02):
Yeah, that, that's true.
And he's I don't know he's,he's not a human man in like
real life at this point and it'sjust like I don't know dude,
like he's a robot or an alien orsomething.
So it's kind of perfect rolefor him.
Yeah, and you know, you didConan the Barbarian before this.
Yeah, and I know they wantedlike a bunch of other different

(10:29):
actors.
Like they went throughSylvester Stallone, lance
Hendrickson, who's in this movie, and shit, there was Tom
Selleck went out for it, likeeverybody.
And then Tom.
Selleck.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, that would be a terrible, but I told him he had
to shave his mustache.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
He's like I will literally die before I do that.
But then Arnold came in and hedidn't really even want him, but
like he auditioned he's likeshit, hell yeah, and he's got
only took off his pants.
Yeah, you're higher and he'sactually got two more lines in
this movie than he did in conanthe barbarian, which is kind of
crazy well, yeah, what does that, what brings, or what?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
what does that bring the total up to?
For lines like four, let's see14.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
28 lines total in his film career at this point.
Nice, hey, he's killing it, hey,he's making a lot of money for
not saying a lot, and I thinkthe problem with the rest of his
movies is that he talks toomuch.
Just kidding, we all loveArnold's terrible acting in all
his movies.
Yes, predator is probably hissecond best role.
I mean, it's just like themachismo in it.

(11:32):
Yeah, it feels like it shouldpurposely sound terrible, but
you know they weren't going forit.
Something I kind of thoughtabout while watching it this
morning Terminator and MichaelMyers have a lot in common, it's
like the same face yeah,especially when he's like
pulling out the eye.
I'm like man, they should justlike redo Halloween again and

(11:57):
just put the Terminator puppetpulling eye out of face and it's
just like there's a lot ofsimilarities between them, like
just slowly walking's a lot ofsimilarities between them, like
just slowly walking and thenkind of killing everybody except
Terminator's better at it yeah,except, I guess not, because
you know they kill Terminatorand Michael Myers can't die.
But I was just like while I waswatching it, especially when he

(12:17):
like catches on fire and hekind of falls and gets back up,
I'm like he's fucking michaelmyers.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yes, it's great, it's robot.
Michael myers from the futurehow horrifying would that be.
Like an alternate universewhere michael myers got caught
really early on, yeah, and thenso they had to send back a
terminator to serial killeveryone yeah does it change
human history for the worse?

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I'd watch that I do, we should do michael myers
terminator team up.
Yeah, that'd be good and belike well, I guess the world
loses in that case, likesomething that can't die and
another thing that's really hardto kill but also can use guns.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, like when an unstoppable force meets an
immovable object.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, and then you just got.
But Freddy, what's up?
Bitch, oh no, bitch.
Terminator just rips him inhalf, he's like oh damn it.
So, cameron, he based hisfictional universe on real life.
Cameron explores his dystopianfuture via several flash forward
scenes throughout the film.
In the sequences we see societyas we know has crumbled into

(13:19):
civilization.
So he paints a grim picture inthese moments and took
inspiration from real lifeimages of Warsaw ghettos in Nazi
occupied Poland during WorldWar Two.
Damn, I thought I recognizedthose.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
It looks like Wally going through there, evaporating
humans.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, and I love that this movie is going to happen
in.
The robots are going to rise in2029.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
So in Los Angeles.
Hey, I thought it was 2027.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
No, I think it's 2029 , right, I got it wrong.
But you know, so we gotsomething to look forward to
guys.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
There's no Skynet yet , but I'm sure Elon's working on
something.
Well, it was Cyberdyne, yeah,and then, and skynet, yeah, well
I think it's a skynet right no,he said, the cyberdyne made the
defense network sky yeah,that's right.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
You're right.
There's a lot of mumbo jumbo.
You know it's.
As a kid I never paid attentionto what they're really saying.
I just knew they're sayingwords that I liked, and then
there was Starlink, starlink.
That's what.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Elon's doing right For T-Mobile yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
So the original script actually had four time
travelers two Terminators andtwo humans.
Reesa's partners were killedinstantly when he materialized
in a wire fence.
That was the original script.
Nice, yeah, that would havebeen rad, but they didn't have
the budget and apparently thisis where they're going to have
the liquid metal TerminatorEnded up doing Terminator 2.
So, yeah, it's kind of cool.

(14:55):
He had the ideas of Terminator2 also in this movie originally
but didn't have the budget.
So he's like I'm just going tofucking crush this movie and get
a sequel.
Baby.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I want his arms to be liquid metal.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah.
So the studio wanted somechanges.
When the production companyOrion Pictures read the script,
they asked for two changes.
Firstly, they requested that acyborg canine should accompany
Reese.
Hell yeah, an idea Cameronturned down.
The second suggestion was thatOrion wanted there to be a

(15:29):
stronger relationship betweenReese andah.
Cameron took this request onboard and developed the love
story between aspect between thetwo.
So what did you?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
think of the love story.
I think it's so funny.
John connor in the future islike I need someone to volunteer
to go back in time and makelove to my mother.
Someone fuck my mom and make meborn I think, and he's like,
she's like, what happens to myhusband?
He's like, oh, he's dead.
I love you, you're gonna die.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
here's what I love.
It was just like, hey, it wasjust like let's have a really
sad boy moment, and then she hasto make him feel bad, feel
better by sex.
Yeah, in the 80s everybody'sjust like make a's have a really
sad boy moment, and then shehas to make him feel bad, feel
better by sex.
Yeah, in the 80s everybody wasjust like make a girl feel bad
and they have sex with you.
Yep, like does that actuallywork?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I mean you can meet her in one night.
Yeah, Kidnap her and then aslong as you save her life.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
I feel like at that point she's just like I don't
know what is left or rightanymore, so like all I know is I
might die.
Let's have sex with thishandsome man, yeah, and let him
and not use a condom.
No, it's the 80s baby, thingswere different.
So it's true love, baby.
Funny thing Cameron and Arnoldhad a little dispute over a line

(16:42):
and then Arnold choked him out.
Yeah, crushed him with hisbiceps, so everybody loves the
line I'll be back, right.
So in Cameron's first draft thescript of the Terminator
actually said I'll come back.
Cameron later changes this toI'll be back, but not.
Before having a disagreementwith Schwarzenegger.
The actor thought that thismachine shouldn't speak in

(17:03):
contractions and would say Iwill be back.
Cameron ended the conversationby saying to the Austrian I
don't tell you how to act, sodon't tell me how to write.
Damn, that's James Cameron baby.
And you know what.
I would just love to see thathappen.
Just like James Cameron, likelooking up at Arnold hey, buddy,
I don't tell you how to act,sticking his finger.
Arnold's just like eating, like, just like a handful of just

(17:27):
like meat or something like agiant turkey leg from a
renaissance fair.
You're right, it's like eatingwhen one hand lifting like a
barbell with the next other hand, one of those comically huge
barbells from the 30s.
Yeah, I guess that's probablyenough of some of the facts.

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I also love the score.
It's not as heavy in this oneas it ends up being in Judgment
Day, but the do-do-do-do-dogives me going.
When I'm driving on theforklift at work, that's what I
do for my horn.
It just doesn't sound as cooland you can't really tell,
Because I've tried.
I'm like hey, what do?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
you think this sounds like?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
And they're like I don't know, I'm like, well, it's
Terminator.
I also sometimes do the StarWars theme.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I don't think anyone did anything other than
something shaving a haircut twobits yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Uh, people do do that a lot and I'm always like I can
learn a new song dudes like dosomething cool for once in your
life and they're just like I'mjust driving.
I think it's time to hop intothe plot, my guy, let's see how
weird this gets.
There is like one moment whereit was kind of like the Nick

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Cate the face off, when there'sjust like a lot of dialogue and
I'm like what?
Yeah, and that's my favoritetype of movie apparently All
right.
So Terminator 1984.
Oh, I was born then.
Oh, over an apocalypticbattlefield dominated by robotic
war machines.

(19:08):
In the future, humans will wagea long war against an enemy
known as the machines.
The final battle, however, willnot be fought in this future
world, but in the past,specifically our present, but
also now our past.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, it said like the battle's gonna be fought on
our planet tonight.
Yeah, like okay, tonight I mean, that's a cool thing to see in
a movie theater.
I guess what tonight?

Speaker 1 (19:42):
oh man, I shouldn't have smoked weed before I came
here.
I didn't realize I was going tohave to battle.
You should always smoke weed.
Yeah, you should always smokeweed.
Great miniature work, though,and love the Terminator theme.
It's great.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
I love how the robots are paving the streets with
skulls.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Skulls.
Yeah, it's like this will makegreat gravel.
So then the year switches to1984, and an object is
transported through a highintensity and energy field.
The object is a man, adominator, a naked man.
It's played by Arnold.
He's naked, naked ass machines.

(20:16):
Hell yeah, that's a way tointroduce something, though, and
it's like, you know, he's likekind of curled up, it's almost
like a superhero type landing.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, it's great, the cover for the bl's like kind of
curled up, it's almost like asuperhero type landing.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, it's great.
The cover for the Blu-ray thatI have is him naked, just
spreading his cheeks.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
It's great.
Yeah, it's just like dang guysgot hemorrhoids.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I should have took care of that before he put him
on the cover.
So the man ends up just beatingup some punks.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
It's got one.
Do these guys do?
They're just like taking turnslooking through a telescope at
night.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
And it's got our boy in it.
Twisters, aliens, bill Paxton,baby, that was him in the blue
hair.
Yeah, he's like the leader.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
He's got like a tire mark on his face.
It's great.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, this was you know before he was like super
super famous.
Before he became an amazingactor yeah, and he like punches.
One guy, just like straightthrough his body Punches through
his chest, like lifts him up,and it's like, don't you just
wish you could?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
do that a little bit.
Yeah, okay, I thought he wasgoing to rip out his heart.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, it's not a.
It would have been sweet.
It's not a Indiana Jones 2.
Indiana Terminator.
There's one man left alive andhe's terrified enough and gives
the Terminator his clothes.
So now he's running aroundnaked.
Not the same size, definitely,clothes don't fit, but I guess
they're a little baggy on theguy and in downtown alley a

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scarred, naked man, much smallerin size than the other and not
as good at time travel.
Yeah, he arrived in a similarfashion, is forced than the
other and not as good at timetravel.
Yeah, he arrived in a similarfashion, is forced through the
portal and lands in an alley.
Yeah, he falls and he's like inpain he just like falls on his
ass.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
It's Kyle Reese baby, he steals a homeless man's
pants.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Hey, the homeless man had two pairs of pants.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay did he, yeah, he's wearing, yeah, he's wearing
pants.
Still, I guess he got to put onlayers.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
He just stole one of his pairs of pants give me the
pants, old man it's like.
It's like hey, homeless man,give me your pants.
We prefer unhoused now.
So he takes a pair of pantsfrom the homeless drunk in the
alley, just as a police carpulls up and two cops yell at
him to freeze.
It's's like why.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, well, like how do they?
They said is that the guy Like,how do?

Speaker 1 (22:27):
they already know that he's here.
I guess there's this like nakedman running around stealing
people's clothes, so they'relike it must have been this guy.
That was quick man, yeah well,the LA.
Punctual.
Yeah, so the man is able toSurprise and attack One of the
cops Taking his pistol.
The cop becomes puzzled by theman's question Of the date.

(22:48):
What date is it?
May 12th, and the year theguy's like.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
What he says.
It's judgment day, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
It's like Wait, that's not Wrong movie bro.
So the unidentified man Breaksinto a department store the
terminator and steals a coat ohwait, no, this is kyle reese,
sorry and steals a pair of nikesneakers.
These sneakers look right.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, they got the strap going around the top of
them.
What?

Speaker 1 (23:15):
the hell bring that shit back.
Just fashion used to be fun backthen like the fashion of this
movie is so bad and great at thesame time.
It's like we all went wrong.
Fashion went the wrong way, itall went the wrong way.
So, slipping out of the story,steals a shotgun from the police
cruiser finding a phone book ina nearby booth.
Also, he looks up the nameSarah Connor the Terminator

(23:39):
later kills the owner of asports gun store and takes a
small arsenal of weapons, hotwires a station wagon and finds
a phone booth, throwing itsoccupant aside.
It's like, hey, man, stop.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
You got an attitude problem.
That guy looks like he lookedlike that wrestler, that really
huge wrestler with the big hair,like the big beard and triple
not triple H.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Triple H.
Yeah Well, he wasn't reallyaround yet.
Is that triple H?
Triple H?
Triple H yeah, well, he wasn'treally around yet Is that Triple
H?

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Triple H does have a big beard.
He eventually did.
He's got like doctorates andsuper smart guy he writes.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
No, that's not him man, who are you talking about,
I wonder.
I know wrestling, I'll have tothink about it, hmm, um, so he,
uh, he checks the phone book andlooks up a name Sarah Connor
finding three listings.
Damn, sarah Connor is sopopular today.
Elsewhere, a young woman, sarahConnor, lives the life of a
lonely waitress sharing anapartment with her friend ginger
.
Sarah is living out a boringlife that seems to go nowhere.

(24:34):
I love oh, they're just like.
Oh, oh, dang it, my life isjust nothing, I'm just a nobody
dang it.
Oh, I can't even do mywaitressing job, right it's like
this place is like booked withlike this tiny diner like a show
he's booked, like so manypeople's like.
Can I please order?
Over here and it's like booked,like so many people's like can

(24:56):
I please order over here?
And it's like, what are wedoing?
What was it called?
Like Biggie, big Buns orsomething, I don't know.
It's like something weird.
Oh, she's having the worst dayever.
Apparently.
Kid puts ice cream in her apron.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
That was weird.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
What are we doing, kid?
So the thing with like JamesCameron is like he's such a
basic writer, like everything.
All his movies are so basic,story wise and it's great, it's
like how do I show this?
Yeah, it's like, how do I showthat this lady is just kind of
having a just just down on herluck and this is it doesn't know

(25:29):
what she's doing in life?
ice cream in the pocket, yeahlet me put ice cream in a pocket
.
She's having trouble being awaitress oh, she's going it in
life.
Ice cream in his pocket, yeah,let me put ice cream in her
pocket.
She's having trouble being awaitress oh, she's going nowhere
in life.
It's like, oh, I know what willspice up her life A Terminator,
yes, and getting naked, nakedman and having unprotected sex
Yep, guys, you know what?
It's a good time.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
This movie tells you you you should have unprotected
sex because your kid might savethe future To fight the robots?
Yeah, exactly, but in thefuture, if they know that she
lives and that they're going tohave to send another Terminator
back to fight another Terminator, am I just getting lost in the
time continuum?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Well, you shouldn't talk about Terminators 2 yet.
That's when things startgetting a little complicated,
because in this film it's theTerminators are losing.
So they send a Terminator backin time to kill Sarah Connor.
So John Connor doesn't exist.
Therefore, they get to justdestroy the world and become
robot people and they just likeI don't know, beep boop
everywhere.
Yeah, so Beep boop, and in thesecond one, boop boxing.

(26:36):
Yeah.
So, and in the second one I'dhave to watch it before I'd say
damn Kendrick Lamar, big fan ofTerminator, or the version of
Terminator I make up.
So the Terminator goes to theaddress of the first listing of
Sarah Connor.
As he walks into the front door, a small dark box at him.
When Sarah Connor opens thedoor, the man forces his way
inside and brutally murders herwith a pistol he's acquired.
Yay, here's the thing.

(26:57):
Damn, that probably sucks,especially if you live in Los
Angeles watching this, you'relike dude, like this is always
happening here around this timelike 70s and 80s, a lot of
murders going on.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
You know, like all, like the like serial killers
around there the Night Stalkerthat was like the best time of
their lives.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, it's like dang, is someone going to break into
our room, tie up everybody inthere, put plates on them and
then go like have his way withthe other person?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
And then it's like ugh, something you got to worry
about, that was an actual thingthat was happening in California
.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
I don't know if it was during the 80s or 70s, but
it's just like I think it was.
The great 70s, but it's justlike it was the great killer,
and then it ended up being a cop.
Who's it did it and it's likeoh yeah, he's a retired cop.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
They found him through 23 and me yeah, that
place just went out of businessI know, gray, I'm glad I spent
money on that murders anymore,damn it.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
You figured like the government would be like this is
actually kind of helpful.
Let's just keep giving themmoney, you know you'd hope so,
yeah, so not long after Sarah'sco-worker drags her to the
television, where Sarah seesthat a woman sharing her name is
then murdered by anunidentified assailant.
Thanks, friend.
Yeah, that'd be pretty cool,though it's like whoa Jesse

(28:07):
Baker was killed.
No way.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I hope they're not looking for me.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, so I hope they're not looking for me.
Yeah, so we cut to Kyle Reese,who is having a flashback to the
future war.
Hell, yeah, good name for a warZap, zap, zap, where he's
almost killed by the cyborgs.
That was pretty fun.
Yeah, scene, this is great.
Yeah, just like all the lasersand shit.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
The lasers in this movie look so good.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
It's like we watched Star Wars recently and like the
lasers kind of janky, like theway they come out of the guns
and like where they end upshooting.
This is like pinpoint precision.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
And it's like James Cameron baby.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
This is what he's good at it's got like gatling
lasers.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Oh future wars.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
So Sarah and her roommate Ginger prepare for
separate dates.
Ginger's boyfriend, matt, willbe coming over to spend the
night.
Weird sexual phone call Guys,it's a freak.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
I love it about him.
He calls he's.
I feel like he's memorized thescript and he's like she's going
to love this.
And then it fails the firsttime, cause he doesn't even know
who he's talking to.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Cause he immediately does it again and he starts over
.
This is so good over.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
This is so good she has to hear this.
It's like she's gonna be lovingthis.
She's gonna rip my clothes offas soon as I get here.
I can't wait to talk abouttheir weird sex.
So we cut to the cops talkingabout the connor murders got
lance henderson.
Hell yeah, baby pumpkin headhimself or the man in pumpkin
head.
He's also in the most recentseason.
Oh, white lotus, it was veryfun seeing him here.
He was actually the firstperson up for the Terminator.

(29:40):
This is who James Cameronwanted originally.
Terminator A little short.
Yeah not, you know, it's likeit would have been fine probably
if he was small, but like damndude yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Arnold, come on, think about like a robot needs.
If you're going to cover achassis, it's going to have to
be meaty, yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Which I feel like If they made the Terminator now, he
would be someone skinny likeLance Henderson, like if it was
a new idea.
They'd be like you know, it'dbe actually kind of cool if he
was a skinny robot.
So Sarah decides to go outbecause her date canceled.
She's like smooching on herlizard it's not a euphemism for

(30:20):
anything.
When she leaves, we see KyleReese is following her.
Cops try to call Sarah, but herroommate and her BF are having
weird sex and don't answer thephone.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
She's got her headphones in.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Yeah, and he's like the phone's ringing, he's like
under her shirt, it's likearound his neck, it's like okay,
and then he like turns up thevolume so she doesn't hear the
phone, and it's like, and thenshe's just like bopping her head
, like yeah yeah.
Yeah, this is so fun, this isgood music.
And it's like is that like funsex?
Like, is that like a cool wayhave sex?

(30:57):
Like I just feel like it'd belike well, she's not really, is
she into this with me?
Or it's like should I be intothis?
It seems like like I'm justdoing my thing, she's just doing
her thing you're not wearing acondom, right?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
yeah, that's good because, uh, my kid might, might
have to fight robots in thefuture.
So, um, sarah sees a newsreport where the police
announced the death of anotherwoman sharing her name.
Sar Sarah becomes worried andsees Kyle Reese following, so
she's like hmm, well, I mean,it's cool that she's like aware
that someone's following her.
She's aware of her surroundings.
So far, love Sarah, she's doingeverything right.

(31:27):
She tries to call the policebut the lines are busy and she's
like, well, fuck this, I'mhanging up.
And it's like, maybe wait, mattand Ginger, they both get
attacked by the Terminator whomercilessly slays them both,
before hearing Sarah's voice ona messaging machine saying where
she is, and he goes and like,finds her little like book of
phone numbers yeah, a littleblack book.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
He's so smart.
I never did he was supposed tobe like the ultimate
intelligence.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I only needed like three numbers back then, though
Not now where everybody has aphone.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
And you had to memorize your numbers.
Yeah, if you didn't have a coolbook.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I still remember the main ones as a kid.
I don't Anybody else's, I haveno idea.
So Sarah then phones the policedepartment again and is
connected to Lieutenant TraxlerFun name the detective
investigating the Sarah Connorkillings.
He tells Sarah to stay putuntil he can get a squad car out
there.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I feel like they should have stayed on the phone
talking until the squad car gotthere, that's what they usually
do, but she didn't call 911.
Law enforcement's calling.
Yeah, well, yeah, she did.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
She just well, they like, oh yeah, they kept
redirecting her, yeah, and thenit got to her.
So the Terminator arrives atthe club, dispatches a bouncer
okay, buddy, you can't come inhere just squeezes the hand and
breaks his wrist and theneverybody's like I just let him
in, it's just four dollars, yeah, so Sarah is spotted at the
club by the Terminator and it'simmediately targeted.

(32:45):
Kyle Reith, who snuck on intothe club, opens fire on the
Terminator with little effect.
Great slow motion yeah, thesweet ass dance scene.
Yeah, they're all doing the samedance dancing.
He's like slowly walking to hergetting ready to shoot her, and
then car is like it's likeunload, it's like perfect oh

(33:07):
yeah, I love the total disregardfor human life yeah, it's great
, it's amazing because itdoesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
She's the only one that has to live.
Yeah, that's it, everybody elsedie, baby little does he.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
She's the only one that has to live.
Yeah, that's it.
Everybody else die, baby Littledoes he know?
Like the second in command ofJohn Connor's in that room, and
he accidentally kills it.
Everything goes awry, thebutterfly, yeah.
And then, after firing a burstfrom a Hizouzi, the Terminator
advances on Sarah, ready to killher.
Kyle Reese, wielding a shotgun,fire several blasts, throwing
the Terminator through theclub's front window, where he
lands on the street.

(33:36):
Kyle picks up Sarah, sayingcome with me if you want to live
.
Did he?
I missed that?
Yeah, he says that.
And then you know, I thought hejust said it in the second one.
Yeah, well, that's a.
Kyle Reese says it in this nextone and it's like fun, yay, hell
, yeah and it's just like it'sthat thing that it used to be

(33:59):
fun to re-say lines, yeah, fromprevious movies.
Then I feel like all these dumbaction movies just trying to
like, make, uh, make money offbeing like it's the line from
the movie that you know thisperson best in is doing or like
star wars, where they've beensaying the same line from like
12 movies over and over and over.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
But it's like it used to be like yay, he said that
from the other movie we haven'tcompletely went bankrupt yet
it's like when they say the nameof the movie in the movie yeah,
I do love that, though I meanthis movie says it all the time.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Terminator, so Sarah watches horrified as her
would-be.
I do love that, though I meanthis movie says it all the time.
Terminator, so Sarah watcheshorrified as her would-be killer
rises from the street and runsafter them.
Sarah and Kyle escape throughthe back door of the club with
the Terminator chasing them, hisvision revealing that he's not
a human.
Yeah, he's got a really baduser interface.
Yeah, Terminator and Predator.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Sucks for them, man.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
They just just they don't see normal it's like, oh,
it's like could imagine notseeing how I saw right.
It's like when you think howyou learn, like as you grow up
and you learn that like cats anddogs see things differently,
and it's like I feel bad forthem man.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, do we really know what they see?

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I don't know but my cat burt.
He knows what the tv's like, hecan see the tv and he knows
what's going on because heconstantly will be eating now,
so there's a noise on the tv.
He's like staring at it andthen he'll like stand up and
just kind of watch it for alittle bit and it's so cute all
of them.
So sarah's new companion shovesher into the stolen car and
speeds off, while the killersubdues a cop and takes his car.

(35:37):
I love it when they're tryingto speed away from the
Terminator, he jumps on the carand punches through the window.
It's so good.
It's like we've seen that likea thousand times.
But like, why does it feelbetter in this movie?
I feel like it earned it right.
Yeah, I think so.
Where it's just like hell, yeah, of course this guy's going to
do it and it's kind ofterrifying, because those are
like the hardest to break.
Yeah, and I don't know, there'sjust something about it where I

(35:58):
was like, and maybe it's justbecause the way everybody's
dressed is kind of cool,especially the Terminator.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
He's so fucking stylish in this movie.
It's great.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
The studded jacket and the gloves.
Oh, and he's got like an 80sshirt underneath it.
Why did you have to put on thegloves too?
He's got the trench coat.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Really Like the robots really like accessories
that much.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yes, they want to look good.
That was the one thing theyhated in the future wars.
They're like oh man, we're allwearing like hipster stuff, like
you got like robots wearinglike skinny jeans, like sweaters
and like like fedoras orsomething Like some of the like
the most hipster clothes,because that's what you know we

(36:37):
wear now it's fancy, but back atthey're like man.
I wish we could be in the 80s,where we wear like cool trench
coats and then we get to put onour leather jackets yeah, they
didn't have a getting dressedmontage for the Terminator.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
They do that in like T2, just like trying, yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
So during the chase, her rescuer explains that he is
Kyle Reese, a soldier from thefuture sent back through time to
protect her, and that she'sbeen targeted for termination.
He explains that her assassinis actually a cybernetic
organism or cyborg, asophisticated robot covered in
human flesh.
This Terminator is designed toinfiltrate human groups, mostly

(37:13):
undetected, and wipe them out.
Some guys will just sayanything I know for real.
It's like this is all you got tosay to people to get them in
bed Like dang people in the 80swere doing it wrong.
So Sarah doesn't believe himand tries to run.
She bites him and he lets her.
He then gets serious and saysthe Terminator will never stop.
She asks if he can kill it.

(37:33):
He says I don't know.
With these weapons, with theseweapons I don't know, just like
with these weapons, spices hismuscle.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
You fucking know it, and then she runs as fast as she
can.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
It's like dang it.
I gotta find Hulk.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Hogan.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
He's the only person that can fight Arnold.
He's been watching too muchAndrew Tate.
To too much Andrew Tate, yeah.
So Reese further explains thatSarah is destined to give birth
to the humans' future leader,john Connor.
That a nuclear war that killedmost of humanity was initiated
by a new powerful computersystem, referred to as Skynet,
that was tasked with controllingall defense systems.
Reese grew up in the ruins, wasenslaved and marked with a

(38:11):
barcode.
The remainder of the human race, he says, was on the verge of
extinction when Sarah's son,john, was able to organize them
into an effective resistancemovement that, by the time Reese
was sent back to the presentday by Connor himself, had
defeated Skynet.
Desperation, skynet sent theTerminator to the present day to
murder Sarah and eliminate JohnConnor's existence.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
All right, take a breath.
What?
This is a huge lore dump.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
And like at first it was like they're doing the lore
dump with like while during thechase scene I was like yeah,
this is how everything should besaid during a moment of chase.
So it's like interesting, butalso it's just like you really
need to understand thisinformation.
But they have so much lore.
But then they park and they'relike all right, we have to park,
all right let me explain.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
There's a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I know I said a little bit, but now we got to
park and talk to you about this.
Yeah, but you know, I meanpretty straightforward, pretty
understandable, Easy tounderstand in the script, Like I
get it.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
I mean for her.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
There's no way she should believe in you.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Like she was right to try to run away but here's the
thing she also saw him pump likefive rounds of a shotgun pretty
close up to him and it's likehow's he like?
It's like kind of put ittogether like well, maybe,
though, right, he should be dead.
He's either Michael Myers or arobot from the future at this
point, or I don't know.

(39:34):
I guess 50 cent, I guess 50Cent, I guess he could be 50
Cent.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, he got shot a lot.
Yeah, he got shot like 900.
Maybe he's a Terminator.
That's why his music's so hot.
Yeah, it's so hot.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Right now we know who Kendrick Lamar is, so His walk
dance is kind of like theTerminator.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
We.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
We figured it out, guys.
I was watching a reel and itwas just like I think it was at
MetLife Stadium and he's playingthat song and you could hear
the entire audience singing withhim and it's just like remember
when people were like thehalftime show was bad and it's
like you guys are wrong.
Everybody loves Kendrick Lamar.
We all have bad opinions whenthings happen because we're all

(40:12):
so negative.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Maybe the Terminator should get us.
Yes, anyways, man, I'd like tosee a football game where it was
only terminators like just todeath or something man, they
actually have a video game likethat.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
They have like a mutant football game.
Nice, oh dude, it's sick.
I've never played it, but itlooks sick.
So reese hides them temporarilyin a parking garage.
Uh, looking for another vehicle.
The Terminator finds them thereand chase resumes.
Reese has Sarah take overdriving and is able to hit the
Terminator with a few blastsfrom his shotgun.
Sarah stops her car and theTerminator crashes into a wall.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Did she just throw it into park and that's how she
hit the brakes?
I don't think that's how itworks In the 80s.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
that's how cars worked.
It's like we don't think that'show it works In the 80s.
That's how cars worked.
It's like we don't.
Nobody's wearing a seatbelt.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Our cars suck now.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
They stop by themselves because of technology
.
In the future, our cars stopbecause of Terminators.
Yeah man.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
He fucking slams into that wall.
It's great.
You think he would have beenthrown out the front splattered
on the wall.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
He's too heavy, he can't.
So when she and Reese arearrested, she sees the
Terminator has escaped the scene.
So at Traxler's seriously, whata name, man Traxler Like.
I hope I'm saying it right it'sT-R-A-X-L-E.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
ER Traxler Like Trax.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Police at Traxler's police precinct.
Sarah is told that Ginger isdead and that Reese has been
turned over to criminalpsychiatrist Peter Silberman.
I love this guy.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
This guy loves his job yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
And you know what?
He's so fun.
He's kind of a fun character.
You know you should be likeagainst him because he's like
trying to stop the plot.
But it's just like man,everything this guy's doing
seems right and uh also, well,they're just making fun of reese
.
Yeah, it's funny.
It's like I would too.
If I was this guy.
I'd be like guys in loony hedeserves a loony bitch.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
That's a fun.
That's gotta be a fun night forpolice.
Yeah, someone coming andtelling crazy ass stories.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, you want to keep talking as long as you can
yeah, it's like he's like Igoing to make a book deal out of
this guy and it's like, yeah,this is wild.
I really like this guy.
I don't know, he's funny.
He's been in like a bunch ofmovies too that have seen him
and he always kind of plays asimilar type of like.
So his story about theTerminator and the future he'd

(42:34):
come from is treated as babbling, babbling of a psychopath.
During the interview, silvermanasked Reese why he didn't bring
any weaponry from the futurewith him.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Which lasers.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
To which Reese Dropped my ring.
Don't want to lose that.
any weaponry from the futurewith him, to which Reese replies
the only living material gothrough the time portal.
any weaponry from the futurewith him to Reese, to which
Reese replies the only livingmaterial go through the time
portal and it wouldn't fit inhis carry on.
Yeah, it's like dude, I wasnaked.
I didn't have pockets.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I charged an extra $80 to check back.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
It's like everything's such a subscription
in the future like you wouldn'tunderstand.
I already paid for so manysubscriptions I couldn't pay for
the able to take my gun exactlythose commercials.
I feel like if we did a bittime travel.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
That's what they're going to use it for just to send
back advertisements yeah,that's all it is.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Hey, people in the past, in the future.
If you pay money now, we'llbring you back to people in the
past.
In the future.
If you pay money now, we'llbring you back to life in the
future.
Doesn't that sound good For alow payment of $50 a month for
the rest of your life, until youdie?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
and the future happens they send Arnold after
you.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Yeah, it's like pay your $50.
Then it's like you pay it andit's like if you do not pay
again, I'll be back.
I want that movie now.
That'd be a good movie.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
One month $50,.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
One year yeah, of course it's a great deal, or you
can pay a million dollars now,which would only be like
actually $30 a month for therest of your life.
Let's do it.
It's so frustrating how that isactually how it works.
So what have we done withourselves?
Remember when we just used tobuy shit and we just had it
forever because we bought itwith our money?

(44:25):
Yeah, instead of now, we justgive companies money and they're
like we get to do whatever wewant with our services.
Yep, damn, you know what I lovethat physical media.
Kyle reese thinks he has arough future.
He didn't live through thisshit.
I think he did.
Yeah, he did, but it justseemed like their future didn't

(44:46):
make it to this time.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I don't think no yeah , they've aren't like we're.
We're in the time that they'rehaving a nuclear war, maybe in
their time yeah, but you know atleast at least their tvs in
this future war.
Oh yeah, they're watching theyule log channel.
Yeah, yeah, this is not thatmuch different.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Everybody still seems kind of miserable and angry all
the time, you know I saw.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
The witcher has its own christmas like fireplace.
I know it's wild.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
My favorite's the adult swim one.
They should make a terminatorwe've seen the adult swim tv,
the adult swim yule log.
Uh-uh, it just plays out into ahorror movie.
It's great.
That's awesome.
Yeah, you should watch.
It's on max.
It's great.
It like starts off as firstit's just a log for a while and
then people come in.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
They're like on a romantic, like cabin retreat and
stuff, and then it becomes ahorror movie, that's all die.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
That's awesome.
It's beautiful dude.
It's great.
Adult Swim was just doing thebest like late night stuff.
It's great.
What were we talking about?
Frustrated and impatient overSilverman's line of questioning,
reese becomes enraged, shoutingabout how the Terminator is
programmed for the ruthlessefficiency and will not stop its
pursuit until it's destroyed orit can kill Sarah O'Connor,

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sarah.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
O'Connor.
I hate how many close-ups theydo of this guy of Reese.
Yeah, they do a lot of likeface close-ups.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
They really want to show that cut on his lips.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I know it's so weird.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
They're just like dang it.
We got a handsome man, webetter close up on him.
So the Terminator goes back tothe shoddy hotel room where it's
hiding out.
It fixes his hand.
It's right as fuck when he cutsopen his wrist and then you
just see like the mechanics inhis arm.
It's like cinema.
It removes one of its eyes thathad been damaged when it was

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shot by Reese.
Under the eyes a sophisticatedrobot eye that glows red.
It dons a set of sunglasses andmarches out to resume the hunt
for Sarah, taking its shotgunand an AR-15 rifle.
Looks fake as hell the face.
But why?
Is it better than any CGI I'veever seen in my life?
It's not.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
It is, it's not.
I mean it's okay.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
It's so good In like a in like it looks bad, but it's
like.
I think I'd rather that than aCGI version.
Yeah, I think I'd rather thatthan a CGI version.
Yeah, I guess.
It makes me feel like someoneput some damn work into this
movie, but not enough, notenough.
But you can't make someone looklike Arnold, because the man
doesn't look like a real human.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
I know it looks like they pulled off Mike Myers' mask
and put it on.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Arnold.
Yeah, I know, and it's betterthan the rest of the Halloween
masks Like this, and it's betterthan the rest of the Halloween
masks Like this mask.
The Terminator looks betterthan Halloween 2 through the
rest of the movie's mask, whichis wild.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Looks more like Michael Myers.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
But I don't know.
There's such a.
I guess there's just anostalgia for this bootstraps
type of yeah, I guess, so Likepractical effects.
It's just like yes, yes, I knowit's fake, but hey, he's a
robot.
It's supposed to be kind ofweird and jittery.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
He's fixing himself.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
That makes sense.
He just looks like a weirdrubber version of him, like the
Walmart version.
And actually have, so they usemultiple effects to achieve all
the shots they needed.
The eye surgery scene, forinstance, is a blend of Arnold
and a puppet headstand in whicharticulating recessed eyes so it
could move in a socket.
The scene where the Terminatoris sitting on the bed with the

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address book is makeup onArnold's face for the
medium-sized shots, combinedwith shots of a puppet in the
front close-up so that theycould get the shots of the eye
moving while it's readingthrough the book.
Additionally, the script callsfor the terminator skin to look
waxy at this point because itsuffered a hit to the small pump
that supplies the blood to theskin.
It's a uh ganger, like gangrene, yeah, like supposed to type

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get that feel.
Uh, the waxy effect on thepuppet didn't photograph
particularly well, though.
Uh, the makeup in the finalscene where the tanker is simply
um, like, where the tankerblows up Just simple appliance.
Yeah, on top of Arnold's face.
It doesn't have an articulatingeye, nor is the eye recessed.
It actually bulges out a bit sothat it can accommodate the

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light.
They still use the puppet forany articulating eye movement,
so I guess the waxiness of theface it just didn't photograph
well.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
How is anybody supposed to know that his blood
pump stopped working?
I guess because yeah, and whydoes he have blood?
Because he's supposed to befleshy he only has skin, he
doesn't have organs he's got tobe fleshy.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Though he's flesh, he's a cyborg.
They have a little bit of bloodin him, right?
Otherwise he couldn't travel tothe future and pass.
Yeah, yeah, I guess so.
Hey, jason, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
What if only his skin traveled to the past?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Just like a lump of skin.
Some homeless man finds himlike oh my God.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
So soon, Hannibal Fava beans yes.
So it's like, ooh, this willkeep me warm during winter Fava
beans.
Yes, so it's like, ooh, I could.
This will keep me warm duringwinter.
It's ugly.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
So at the police precinct it makes your butt look
amazing.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Yeah, oh man, this guy had hemorrhoids.
So the Terminator arrives atthe police precinct, arrives in
the foyer and asks to see Sarah.
When the desk officer refuseshis entry, it drives the police
cruiser through the lobby,killing the officer I'll be back
with a car, I'll be back.
He just like looks around, I'llhave an idea.
This place seems like it'd be agreat place for a car In the

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future.
We use cars to enter doors.
So it marches through theprecinct, wrinkly, slaughtering
every officer it finds.
In the battle, Traxler and hispartner Volkovich, Lance
Henderson, are both killed andReese escapes confinement.
Great scene, right, yeah, thisis probably like terrifying for
people in the 80s.

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Yeah, just like going throughsystematically killing everybody
, everybody's shooting him andhe's like ow, it's great.
There's something so likebefore Arnold became this like
almost kind of a joke of anactor, right, yeah, Because it's
like he can't act.
Usually people love him becausehe says lines weird and he's

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usually and then like, thinkabout, like, think about, like
in the later 90s he's likeplaying like a family man and
it's just like him.
This guy's not just a familyman, Like Jingle.
All the Way yeah and it's likehuh, I kind of love Jingle All
the Way, though I think thatmovie is a movie.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
That has got.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Sinbad.
I watch it every year.
Yeah, sinbad, the guy who'sgoing postal movie's wild.
But yeah, there's justsomething like because now he
kind of he's like we think ofhim as a joke now, but like back
in the day it's just like a manlike that walking through a
precinct shooting people.
That's terrifying.
Like right, it's like Andy's aforeigner.

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I guess we'll still beterrified of something like that
today.
Right, he's an alien.
Yeah, so he finds Reese, findsSarah, and the two escape the
precinct.
They hide out under a bridge.
Here we go.
More lore Kyle tells Sarahabout John.
She jokes that she knows whatthe names of the kids she's
called are going to be.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I'm so cold.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
And I love that Kyle puts his arm around her.
It's like, hey, you have a coaton, give it to her.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
That's what I thought he was going to do.
He's like no.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
I'm fucking cold too, dude, that was mine.
In the future, you can't giveup your clothes, okay, she, that
was mine.
It's not a general.
In the future, you can't giveup your clothes, okay.
She asks about the father, butwe learn that he dies before the
war and she's like no, no, no,don't tell me anymore.
Actually I don't want to hearabout any of this.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
But which means you're single and I know that.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Tongue rolls out of his mouth like a dog.
So now she's starting torealize Kyle's story might be
true.
She asks him to tell her wherehe is from.
Sarah is told about the futurewhere humans barely survive amid
the wreckage of cities, thedominance of the Terminators
which were produced by Skynetlate in the war to find hidden

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human settlements.
In Kyle's vision of his owntime, he has returned to an
underground bunker.
After finishing a patrol withhis unit, he finds a quiet
corner to rest among thestarving occupants, looking
fondly at an old Polaroid ofSarah herself.
At the door of the bunker aTerminator busts in and begins
to slaughter the occupants.
Reese tries valiantly todestroy the intruder, but an
explosion knocks him to thefloor as the Terminator advances

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.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
It was Arnold that came in in his future dream.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
It doesn't look like him, though it looks similar to
him, but I think maybe it's justlike they all are just big hul,
human, little annoyed lookingcreatures.
I love the red eyes, yeah, whenit's in the dark, and it's
badass gun and it's like themovie sinners kind of does a
similar effect with the eyes andit's like, oh shit, hell yeah,
ladies and gentlemen, we'redoing eye shit.

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It's great.
Give everything red eyes inmovies, it's good um, but I love
that.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
I love this idea that he's got a picture of a dead
woman that he's falling in lovewith.
One day he's like, one day I'llgo back in time and we'll fall
in and I'm gonna bang this lady.
It's so wild it's weird, or isit more like a, like a reverence
thing, like she's the leader ofthe resistance saver of
humanity, and it's like themother having a picture of the

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mother, virgin mary or something.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
You know what I mean yeah, similar right like she's
worship it's like this womangave us john connor.
This is the woman that birthedour jesus.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
She's so hot yeah, she's got a headband on.
Can I have that picture of yourmom?

Speaker 1 (54:32):
yeah, don't worry, I'm only gonna give her a
picture of his mom, john died.
John connor died yeah, I thinkhe's dead at this point in the
timeline.
Oh right, I don't know, I can'tremember.
I just watched it too.
I'm so good at this.
Um, yeah, so uh.
And then she has the dream.
I mean, it feels like she'sremembering this, but it's like

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you weren't alive during this.
But I guess it's just like hereally just like laid out the
story so well she dreamt aboutit.
I don't know, um, but then wecut to the Terminator, using
Sarah's phone book to find hermom's location.
A person goes hey, it smellslike a dead cat in there.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Fuck you asshole so it goes through all the
different answers.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
It's like really, I feel like that's how our brains
work.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Just a little bit faster, though.
It's like one of those old toysthat just has program responses
.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
It's because he learns how to speak after
hearing people.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Say like four things, programmed to say four things
when you pull a string.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah, it's a thing is it's like it's kind of silly in
this movie, but then, like,when you get to Terminator 2,
it's kind of beautiful,especially because he learns how
to talk and it's like he'slearning from this kid.
And when he dies, he puts uphis thumb and it's like oh,
filmmaking.
It's why we have a podcast,this is why I like James

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Cameron's such a good filmmakerman, it's wild.
Good filmmaker man, it's wild.
So, anyways, later the tworeach a roadside motel where
Kyle goes to purchase chemicalsneeded to make explosives.
While he's shopping usingborrowed money, sarah showers
and phones her mother, tellingher the phone number, where she
is unaware that her mother isactually the Terminator.
Recreating the voice of her realand now dead mother.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
It's great, that's terrifying.
Yeah, it's like panning throughthe room where she's obviously
been murdered.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Yeah, it's like oh, poor Sarah Connor, she's not
even going to know.
It's like a talk boy.
Yeah, it's great.
So the two make a stockpile ofexplosives, teaching her how to
make plastique from householditems and small links of steel
pipe.
He could have also bought food.
Yeah, he could have bought alittle bit of food.
It's like so, what's for dinner?
Plastique Mothballs, hope youenjoy mothballs.

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It's like an elf when you'reseeing the cotton balls.
So when Sarah asked Kyle if hehas ever had a lover, he replies
he is not.
In fact that fact touches Sarah.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Kyle then mentions having a photo of Sarah and how
he has fallen in love with her.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Sarah, then has sex with Reese and results in the
conception of Sarah's and Kyle'sson, john Connor.
I put, ok, boys will fall inlove with anything and I love
the sex scene.
It's actually I was thinkingthat the sex scene was super
weird.
It's really like not as weirdas I remember as a kid.
I don't know what sex scene Iwas thinking.

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I thought it was going to belike bluer, like a bluer.
I think I'm thinking of the TomCruise sex scene and, um, uh,
what's it called?
Top gun?
It's a very weird sex scene.
Yeah, um, and it's really bluein there and it's just like
didn't need it, or like it'sreally weird and it might just
be because it's tom cruise, Idon't know, but, um, I love the

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sexy because it's shorter than Iremember.
It is awkward because there's alot of gripping hands.
Yes, it's like just a lot ofclose-ups on hands gripping
because it's so good.
Yeah, but it wasn't as long asI thought, which I was like, oh,
thank god I thought this was afive minute sex scene, like top
gun, but I guess not.
it's very soft core board, um.
And then I love like afterwards, when they're done, uh, she's

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like it's about to throw somepants at him.
He's like think fast, and it'sthe bombs, it's the fucking pipe
bombs.
He's a crazy woman.
Well, I don't think the bombswere in it yet.
I think it was like the bag toput the bombs in.
But there was like whenever shedid it and he, they were in

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there because he got mad andstarted stuffing them in really
angrily.
Before they had sex he wasstuffing the bombs and they're
like yeah, I'm so mad that Isaid I love her, oh, and soon
I'll be stuffing something else.
But there is this one littlething where it's like really
good acting like after she doesthat, and then he like puts on
this most genuine smile and Iwas like shit, they sold me on
the relationship.
This is one little moment.
I was like James Cameron themost basic little shit and it's
just like, oh, I get it.
Little shit, and it's just like, oh, I get it.
It's like no wonder he was ableto get Titanic right with their
love stuff.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
I don't know, draw me like one of your friends, girl.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah that's what Kyle Reese should have done draw me
like one of your Terminators.
Yeah, so the Terminator tracksthem to a hotel on a motorcycle
and the two flee again in astolen pickup truck Terminator
with pipe bombs he and Sarahmade.
However, he is hit by gunfireand Sarah loses control of their
truck, flipping over afterrunning the Terminator off the

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road.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Hey, maybe instead.
Maybe you should put instead ofmaking smoke bombs, you could
actually make them explode andhurt people.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Explode into smoke.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Thing is later.
They work really well.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
I know, and it's just like throwing pipe bombs.
It's like like, ah, you kind ofneed to slow down, wait for the
week it's a little bit closer,and then throw it.
But just like throwing on theground it's gonna fly everywhere
.
We play too many video gamesyeah, that's true, they work in
video games.
So, um yeah, the terminatorrecovers and is immediately
struck by a semi-tanker truck.
After the driver stops, theterminator kills him and takes

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control of the truck, attemptingto run down Sarah.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
That was sweet when he gets run over and he grabs
the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
And he kills one guy and then gets in and he tells
the other get out.
Then you got the rad robot facewhich looks really good in this
scene.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Oh yeah because do you remember when he wrecked off
the motorcycle he just slidesacross the ground that?
Because you remember when hewrecked off the motorcycle he
just slides across the ground.
Yeah, that would have beengreat if there would have been
like a blood smear just on hisface.
Yeah, that'd be so good, justlike grinding and blood Like
sparse coming out of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
So they're near a factory.
Kyle uses one of his last pipebombs to detonate the truck
tanker trailer, which explodes.
Nice, james Cameron knows howto make an explosion.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
We all agree on that one.
I really liked this explosionfor one reason because whenever
Reese jumps into the dumpsterand then the tanker explodes and
then it shoots out liquid fire,I don't think I've ever seen
that in another film, where itkind of like the liquid like
gets on the dumpster and thencatches and starts burning more.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah, it was burning more.
Yeah, that was really cool.
Yeah, it's like, damn, the guyknows how to do explosions, like
that's why he's like such agood practical, that's why all
his movies have such goodpractical effects.
Cause it's like the guy justknows how to do this shit.
He's better at it than anybody.
He knows how to make it lookcool.
But yeah, and then, like yousee the dumpster kind of rolling
a little bit and it's just likewho thinks of that, right, who

(01:01:17):
thinks of the small details likethat?
And I think that's somethingthat CGI has made movies lazy
with that, because they're likethey don't.
I mean James Cameron just likeis working on movies and seeing
explosions.
He's like, oh, I get kind oflike the science behind it and
maybe that's why he's able tomake such good explosions.
Now, like now most filmmakersare doing nothing but CGI.

(01:01:37):
So it's just like I don't knowthe physics of this shit.
I haven't actually seen a realexplosion.
I just see I just make themfake in a computer what is that?
A building?
Make it explode?
Yeah, it's like James Cameron's, like I could do that in real
life, by the way.
So the Terminator walks out ofthe truck but falls to the
ground burning.
All his skin is melting off andit looks beautiful.

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And then he gets up and he'sMichael Myers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Yeah, Well he's.
I love how he looks with noskin.
I wish he would have ripped offhis skin a lot sooner.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yeah, because the Terminator emerges from the
wreckage and it's like let'sfucking go.
He's only got pecs.
Yeah, it's just robots.
And I love how skinny his legsare.
Skinny as little legs and it'slike and he's hurt, he's got
like a limp, yeah, it's great.
And then, like I just loveseeing like the hydraulics like
in, like where his calves andlike stuff is.
It's just like robots, baby,they cool.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I like his jittery walk.
Yeah, jittery walk yeah, itlooks.
It looks like stop motion to me, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Maybe, yeah, there's definitely some stop motion to
it.
Um, and it's great.
Yeah, it's very creepy.
Oh it like the jankiness of itmakes it good it makes it good
because you could.
You could justify with like hejust caught on fire, yeah, and
it's just like now with cgi,they just like move so like
smoothly, and it'd be likejaunting down the road, like,
hey guys, it's like saturdaynight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
they just like move so like smoothly, and be like
jaunting down the road, like heyguys, it's like Saturday Night
Fever, just like Spider-Man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Spider-man 3-ing everybody, hey.
So Reese and Sarah retreat intothe factory, which is automated
.
Reese switches on as many ofthe machines as he can, making
tracking more difficult for theTerminator Machine on machine
crime, baby I see it, the secondone that ends in a factory too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
It's like a lava factory, it's like a smelting
place Metal smelting.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
And it's just like yes, have your robot movies end
in a place of robots.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
These are ancient robot cousins of the Terminator.
Beautiful baby, it's poetry.
The robots are the robots'demise, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
It's like damn it, these Neanderthal robots beat me
.
So they are finally corneredand Reese places his last bomb
in the endoskeleton of theTerminator.
That's fucking cool, but beforehe's like whacking it with a
pole, it's great, but the hedented it.
The Terminator explodes,scattering pieces of the cyborg.
Sarah, nursing a severelyinjured leg, now finds Reese,

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but he's dead.
Rip Reese, it's over, it's overnow Movie end Yep.
She is suddenly attacked by thetop half of the Terminator's
skeleton.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Oh, it's so great.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, Bass is crawling after him and she can't
move and it's just like shouldI yell cinema again Because?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
it's cinema.
She desperately how does sheget through?
She gets under the presser andthen there's a grate, there's a
gate that Terminator can't getthrough.
Yeah, why could she get?

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
through.
I think she like closed itright, oh yeah, something like
that.
Finally, luring the Terminatorto a giant hydraulic press which
she knows about because sheactually touched it earlier.
She traps it there and, as itmindlessly tries to break her
neck, she pushes the buttonactivating the press.
The Terminator is crushed tillit's red, glowing eye fades.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
You're terminated fucker no notes, ladies and
gentlemen, you're terminatedfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
No notes Ladies and gentlemen, you're terminated so
good.
So we see Sarah's taken to anambulance and sees the
paramedics but Kyle's body andput Kyle's body into a body bag.
Good thing, they just had sex.
Yeah, I was like thank God Gotit in before he died.
Yeah, hey, like thank.
God Got it in before he died,hey, and he finally, at least he

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found love.
He did In the 80s.
When you found love you had todie or she had to die.
It just depends which type ofmovie you're watching.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
So do you think she was dead in the future, whenever
he came back?
Yeah, she's dead, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
I'm pretty sure she's dead.
So later she's driving a Jeepinto the desert, seemingly
towards Mexico, stopping at agas station.
She's been recording herselfusing a cassette player.
The tapes are for her son,which is great, because later in
the next movie she does it alot.
One of the questions she posesis whether or not she should
tell John about Reese being hisfather, if that will affect his

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decision to send the warriorback in time to meet and save
Sarah.
While the jeep's tank is filled, a young boy takes a picture
with a Polaroid camera.
It's the same picture as Reeseadmires in Sarah's dream of his
future.
She and the boy bargain overthe price and she buys it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Alright, one second with this guy, this kid.
I love how she's like goodhustle kid, but he's like you
got to give me $5 or my dad willbeat me.
And she's immediately like, howabout $4?
Yeah, so he's still going toget beat, if it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Well, she said it was a hustle, but if it's true,
it's pretty bad.
I like to think that the personpumping the gas was actually
the kid's father, the grandpa,or something.
And was just like after sheleaves like hell, fucking, yeah,
we get every white woman thatcomes through here with this
shit.
And then the boy says somethingin Spanish.

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The gas station owner tells herhe said a storm's coming.
Sarah sees the stormapproaching and says I know Dang
.
And she drives off into anunknown future.
Well, the mountains.
Beautiful baby, I've been downthat road and it's like
something I love about the nextone, so it's like James Cameron

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loves, like strong female leadsright, I do too, and uh,
probably because of JamesCameron, this first one she's
like such a damsel in distresskind of.
And the second one, it's justlike she's a total badass.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
She's fucking got like shotguns all over the place
and it's like, yes, she's got amotorcycle, yeah, it's great
badass.
And this one she's driving amoped.
So I guess they had the morebadass motorcycle.
She's just like you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I wish they started Terminator 2.
It's like she's about to get ona moped.
She's like, no, I'm not a kidanymore, kicks it over Like,
beats up a guy and steals hismotorcycle Throws a guy off his
bike.
It's like what's the movie Shitwith Brie Larson where she's a
superhero.
What's the superhero?
Miss Marvel, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
Where it's like oh she because it's playing off
Terminator.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Captain Marvel yeah, it's playing off Terminator and
she, like, puts a Nine InchNails shirt on, steals the guy's
motorcycle.
That's what Sarah Connor shouldhave done, but that's
Terminator.
Let's hit up our categories thegood, the bad, the ugly, the
fine.
The good we discussed aboutsomething that we like, about
the movie.
The bad something we didn't.
The ugly something that didn'tage well.
The fine something that did agewell.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
My good is 80s action , sci-fi films yeah, this is one
of the better 80s action filmsthat really kind of still holds
up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
And it's just like there's so much cheesiness to it
and there's so much like lowbudget feel to it.
It's not that bad, but it'slike not that cheesy.
It's just because it's likethey filmed it on set.
They filmed it in the streets.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
It's great, it feels real, until they like say
something stupid and cheesy andthen it's just like like it's
still still kind of why I likeit there is one scene where I
think that I don't know ifthey're paid extras or just
people on the street, because helooks at the camera and then he
like sucks in his breath, likeyeah, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
James Cameron's going to beat me up because I looked
at the camera.
Yeah, I love that 80s action.
Anything else you got for thegood?

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
I really like the Terminator robot with no skin.
I thought it was the most bad.
I mean, just this movie, thisis so good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Yeah, robot with no skin.
I thought it was the.
Yes, I mean just, maybe this isso good.
Yeah, it's just like it'ssomething so terrifying about it
, right?
Yeah, it's like they're reallylike we're.
We all have the fear now that,like, as more ai is getting and
you see all these like janky assrobots, these like companies
are trying to make that are justlike when the one making the
pizza yeah and then you got one.
That's just like trying to getup, but someone keeps kicking it

(01:09:37):
down and it's just like stop.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
This is how it starts .
You know, they learn.
They're like they learn things.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah, they're going to learn that.
Robot's like fuck humans, dude.
Once I figure out my body, I'mgoing to kill them all.
It's like, oh, it's like, oh,it's like you know like where
this is going though.
Yeah, I like it.
But yeah, love, just just love80s versions of the future.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
It's great yeah, we're so close to that future
yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Two years and for the bad I put.
The things that are bad arekind of what I love.
Like some of the cheesydialogue, the plot decisions are
like the animatronic.
Yeah, yeah, cheesy dialogue, uh, the plot decisions are like
the animatronic, the yeah, likeyeah, the Arnold face, it's like
I get that.
It's like looks bad, especiallyfor now.
Like you know, we couldprobably do that with, uh,
animatronics a lot better, butthere's something about it that

(01:10:28):
just makes me nostalgic right,yeah, well, I think for these
type of movies for me, the badpart about the Arnold face is
there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
They tried to put them all in the same scene Like
no one was going to notice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Yeah, they kept switching back between them.
It's like I wonder like if,while like filming it, like what
they're seeing like lookspretty decent, and then when
they get back and they have tolook at the dailies, they're
like Because their TV was like13 inches by nine or something.
And like James Cameron's, likeshit.
It's all we got, man.
We ain't got the budget for therest.
But I don't know, hey for an80s movie, yeah it was still

(01:11:06):
cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
I mean, maybe if they put the line maybe if they're
like and also if we shoot himhe'll become waxy, but then that
one just sucked Shut up, nerd,yeah.
But then that just sucked shutup, nerd, yeah.
Um, so uh, for the ugly, uh, Iguess in the 80s, like sad boys
just were getting laid just bytelling them girls how sad they
are.
Girl the the bar for men was setvery low you know what this

(01:11:28):
reminds me of is this like youknow, just like going on
Facebook and like seeing a girlthat you think is like cute and
just being like hey.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Facebook and like seeing a girl that you think is
a cute and it's being like hey,what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Hey, do you know me?
And then this is like it's likehow long have you been looking
at my pictures on Facebook?
It's like this is what KyleReese did, except he was in the
future and he got sent back tothe past.
So it's like I don't know.
I guess that one's better thanthis Facebook.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
that he found a phone book and wasn't like
immediately, like what the hellis this?
Yeah, Right.
This is a murder book witheveryone's address.
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Like because, yeah, I guess, and I guess people
thought in the future there's noway we'd have cell phones, no,
you just have Terminators.
Like like oh, I got to call mybuddy T-800.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Pulls out the huge cell phone with the giant
antenna.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
T-810.
And it's just like flippingthrough the phone book like dang
it keep ripping the pages.
My other ugly is the Terminatorseries in general.
Yeah, there's two great ones,they're two almost masterpieces.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
The second one is a masterpiece.
The rest of them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
They're just like damn, he really ended the series
on two.
Yeah, garbage the rest of them.
They're just like it's like hedamn, he really ended the series
on two.
Yeah, we really have nothingelse to do.
You didn't have to go anyfurther and they just keep
trying and trying and trying tothe point where I just quit
watching them.
I'm done just like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
If james cameron's not coming back, I don't want to
watch it yeah, that is true, Inever really thought about that,
watching him growing up like,yeah, once the third one, I saw
the third one, even though hotterminator is great, yeah, um,
like sexy terminator, but yeah,it's just like did you guys not
watch the other two movies?
These are the wrong vibes.
This is an abomination.

(01:13:06):
This isn't right it's weird,it's like I don't know, it's
weird, but I guess what I meantto say was I didn didn't
recognize that James Cameronwasn't the director.
Yeah, because we're so young,because I didn't really thought
about that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
I didn't know it either.
I just assumed like, oh, theyall do the same movie right Same
movie same director it has tobe and it's like no and it's bad
.
Then what's the one withChristian Bale?
That's where he had his likeout on set.
That kind of came out onYouTube.
No, was that Retaliation,retribution?
I don't know, I saw it once andI was like no don't like it.

(01:13:46):
McG don't make movies, All right.
So the fine, something thataged well.
The Final Fight with the Robot?
Obviously James Cameron,obviously Linda Hamilton.
Yes, Great action star.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58):
I don't think I've seen her in anything recently.
Is she still acting?

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Yeah, she was in like the last Terminator movie,
black, something I forgot whatit's called, okay, but yeah, she
has pretty lips.
It's all great.
What age will Her pretty lips?

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
That's what Jason says luscious lips, her hair,
man that hair.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Put that on Jesus Christ put that on the cover of
the Terminator.
She has pretty lips.
I love seeing like hey tootsmile with those pretty lips.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Okay, god she's when she's driving away on her moped
and she's not wearing a helmet.
I was like, oh no, but she'sgot all that hair, so she'll
probably be okay.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Yeah, oh, great 80s hair.
Come on, fucking goes.
All right, that's that category.
Now we're going to cut to oursecond category, double feature.
It's where we recommend a movieto go alongside this movie.
I'm going to actually say themovie that popped up, saying I
should watch right after this.
I probably already recommendedit once, but, man, this goes

(01:14:53):
great with this movie Robocop,robocop.
It's the same fucking shit, manit's great.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Mine was similar.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
It's a dread yes, like which one?
Like the newest one or the oldone?
Either one, I guess.
Yeah, the old one that'ssylvester stallone.
Uh, yeah, yeah, and it's gotalso a robot fight scene and
it's great.
I love that that movie.
As a kid I better.
I bet I'd hate it now.
Yeah, probably.
When did that?

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
come out.
It has some cool ideas in it,like there's this thing where,
if you get in a car accident,the car will just fill up with
like foam.
So, you don't move and get hurt.
Oh, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Oh, rob Schneider's in that, yeah, max von Sado,
hell yeah.
Oh man, just looking at likethe cover for Judge the old
Judge Dredd so fucking sick babyand his costume, oh so good,
it's so hard.
And the thing is, I mean likeit's very much like 90s idea of

(01:15:50):
what future stuff would looklike.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
And then you look at the other Dredd one and it's
just kind of like darker andless contrasting I think in the
80s and 90s their idea of thefuture was always just hey, put
a bunch of trash everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Yeah exactly 80s and 90s are like hey, everything's a
little bit more colorful aswell, but also trash and weird
fast food.
Yeah, like demolition man,where Taco Bell took over
everything.
Alright, that's our discussionon Terminator.
I hope you enjoyed it.

(01:16:21):
It was very fun to talk about,very fun to watch, and if you're
just listening to this and notre-watching it, go back and
re-watch it, baby.
Do your homework, watch things.
That fucking rule and stopwatching things now.
Just kidding, go see Sinners.
It's amazing, can't wait.
But we're going to discuss alittle movie called Oceans and
Living next.
Hell, yeah, because I loveSteven Soderbergh, baby, and I

(01:16:43):
love all the actors in it.
It's so good.
I love heist movies.
Let's effing go.
So, yeah, join us next week forthat.
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Well?

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
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There's a link at the top thatyou can just click or go down to
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Say, hey, what up, baby, I'llbe back and hey.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I'll look you up in the phone book and I'm coming to
murder you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
We got a couple of new listeners.
Hey, new listeners, give us areview, baby.
Sometimes I think that, likepeople, as soon as we're done
talking about the movie, theyjust switch to a new episode.
So I wonder if anybody actuallylistens to this part.
I don't know.
Should probably start doingthat at the beginning, but I
hate when podcasts do that.
Anyways, I hope you enjoyedthat rant.
I thought it was somewhere inthe middle, yeah.

(01:17:35):
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