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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Hello and welcome to
a bonus episode of We Recommend
a movie podcast where every weekwe recommend a movie for you to
watch and then come back hereand listen to us discuss.
I'm Jesse.
I'm Jason.
I don't know what I did todeserve someone.
You're so good to me.
Oh because this week werecommend VHS segment The Sick
Thing That Happened to Emilywhen she was younger.
(00:26):
Great title.
I love the title.
Alright, Jason.
So on the last episode.
Yeah, right.
So on the last episode, you saidthis was kind of similar to
Tuesday the 17th for you.
But with more breasts.
Discuss.
Yes.
Two four total breasts.
Um yeah, so uh what'd you likeand uh what'd you not like on
(00:49):
it?
SPEAKER_01 (00:49):
Uh I don't know.
It's just kind of like I I dolike FMV.
Like um especially video games,whenever you're they're just
kind of out of pocket.
And that's what kinda I kindaliked about this one.
SPEAKER_00 (01:03):
At the same time,
it's kind of What do you mean
FMV?
I don't know video games.
SPEAKER_01 (01:09):
It's like the whole
video game is you watching
recordings of people talking onthe camera.
Yeah, yeah, gotcha.
You have to investigate usinglike what's things they say and
like to figure out what happenedto the people.
SPEAKER_00 (01:24):
I gotcha.
SPEAKER_01 (01:25):
And that's I kind of
like that about this.
SPEAKER_00 (01:27):
Yeah.
Yeah, and I I I understand Ihave my issues with this one
too.
And it's mainly deals with likethe creatures that are just
children.
Children.
SPEAKER_01 (01:37):
Yeah, it's kind of
like it's kind of but they're
supposed to be aliens, right?
SPEAKER_00 (01:41):
Yeah.
It's creepy at first, you know,when you don't see them, but
then when you see them justsitting on the floor, it's like
they're just fucking kids.
Oh, there's a bunch of assholes.
There's some kids.
Um, but so this one is the onedirected by Joe Swanberg.
He's actually a pretty gooddirector.
He's done so him and like JakeJohnson from New Girl, Nick, he
like they're I think they'rebuds.
They've done a lot of, they'vedone a few things together.
Um, it's also written by SimonBarrett, who also did w wrote
(02:04):
the uh tape 56 wraparound thing.
SPEAKER_01 (02:07):
Yeah, it's it did
give me the the best jump scare,
I think, out of all of them.
SPEAKER_00 (02:11):
No, no, see, so this
is what I want to talk about.
Like, uh part like in my notes,I put walking around the house
is spooky.
Yeah.
With like low um bad lighting,like bad lighting, bad video.
And then like you're just kindof seeing the guy and he kind of
looks interested.
And then whenever, you know,this is the fourth or fifth time
I've seen this whole movie.
So like it's also funre-watching it with him in the
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corner because you know he'strying not to let her see it
because she doesn't he doesn'the doesn't want her to know
what's going on at the sametime.
So that kind of adds an extraelement of probably why I like
it a little bit more than maybeyou might.
Um, but yeah, just I like I lovethe twist.
It was pretty cool.
It's a good twist, and it likedo you just think it's a ghost,
(02:54):
and then it's like, oh no, it'salien shit.
Um it's just like body farm.
I wish the kids maybe looked alittle cooler or something, you
know.
SPEAKER_01 (03:01):
Yeah, or just like
have real aliens.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (03:04):
Yeah, but it was uh
it was a cool idea.
That was fun.
It was um just it's it's prettyslow, but I kind of like that
about it.
It made it feel real.
And this was kind of the firsttime I saw they and them people
doing like a Skype type moviebecause they've done it now
multiple times.
There's uh Unfriended andUnfriended 2.
(03:24):
You got the movies or like someuh I think it's called like
missing or whatever, and it'sjust it all takes place on a
screen and someone's trying tofigure out where someone's been
kidnapped and they're trying tofigure out where they're at and
stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Oh, like the guys
dying like in the chair, get
about to be killed by people whoare watching.
SPEAKER_00 (03:40):
It's just like um
his like daughter or wife or
someone got kidnapped, and heuses like Facebook and stuff to
try to find them and uses likephone locators and things like
that.
And it's really they're reallyfun to fight all the trolls,
yeah.
Um but then there's also thebest one I've seen, it's called
Host.
It's only like 64 minutes, it'son chutter.
Um, it's like these people arelike doing a you know, like a
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ritual over Skype and stuffbecause it's it they filmed it
during uh COVID, so this is away to make a movie during
COVID, and it fucking rolls.
Nice, like the ghosts are reallygood.
It's like 20 times better thanthis, though I do like a lot a
lot of portions of it.
That's cool.
But it's just like, hey, theyhad a really good idea and they
had plenty of time and duringCOVID to work on it.
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Um but yeah.
Um, so one of the things I have,Daniel Kaufman, who played
James, he directed a documentarycalled Can't Can't Stop, Won't
Stop, a Bad Boy Story.
SPEAKER_01 (04:37):
It sounds like that
one.
SPEAKER_00 (04:40):
It's about the uh
Don't Stop Ever Stop It.
It's about the pr uh the rapcompany that makes music.
Uh the lead in that is P.
Diddy.
Oh, good.
Good, good, good.
That was the most interestingfact I heard.
SPEAKER_01 (04:54):
No problem about it
with that guy.
SPEAKER_00 (04:56):
So maybe we should
figure out how if Daniel
Kaufman's been to any parties,find that guy.
He's been because he, you know,might rip an alien out of a
lady.
Maybe that's what P.
Diddy was doing.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_01 (05:08):
Yeah, he's saving
those people.
SPEAKER_00 (05:12):
But anyways, uh the
stuff where um also an element
of this that is really good.
Whenever he tells Emily comes upwith the idea that she's gonna
close her eyes so she doesn'tget scared, and James has to
watch what's going on around.
Good.
That was pretty funny.
Great.
Because if you watch it atnight, completely dark room by
yourself, which is how I watchedthe first one, it got me, man.
(05:35):
This is what we did at theHollywood horror night?
SPEAKER_01 (05:39):
Yeah.
Just walk close your eyes.
No, like so.
We went through a haunted house.
Ashley held up her phone andshe's like, You guide me.
I want to get video of thehaunted house, but I'm gonna
close my eyes and hold up myphone and you guide me through
the house.
SPEAKER_00 (05:50):
And I'll watch it
later.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
And nothing got
killed.
Just the roof.
Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_00 (05:58):
Well, this is an
interesting corner you filmed
for two hours.
SPEAKER_01 (06:02):
Um she was pushing
me, so we were going so fast.
Yeah.
Um ran into a blue a glass wallbecause it was like there's a
monster behind it.
Yeah.
And I just bumped into itbecause I couldn't see anything
because it was bright outsideand dark inside.
Yeah.
My eyes hadn't adjusted.
SPEAKER_00 (06:19):
When you went to
Universal, did uh and did the
horror nights, um, did you getto walk in as a group or did you
all like go in like single file?
It was kind of single file.
Yeah.
It's just people, some peopletake too long to go through.
It's like, hurry up.
Ain't that scary.
Damn, I ain't real.
SPEAKER_01 (06:34):
We were zooming.
SPEAKER_00 (06:35):
Yeah.
But yeah, that's pretty mucheverything I got.
Um, the general discussion ofthe sick thing that happened to
Emily when she was younger.
Oh, it's such a fucking radtitle.
I love it.
It's my favorite title at all.
SPEAKER_01 (06:46):
So, what happened to
her when she was younger?
Her leg thing?
Oh, right, because he's beenYeah, they've been friends since
12 years old.
And he's been doing this.
SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
She was in a car
crash when she was 12 years old.
And that's how he constantly islike, hey, you were in a car
crash.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um, and so we'll hop into theplot.
Or was she in a car crash?
Well, but she wasn't probablyokay.
So, tape 56 continued.
Back in this VCR room, the oldman is back, but the guy
watching the tape is gone.
(07:15):
Where did this guy go?
The two from the basement.
Yeah.
The two from the basement comeback to the room.
They think their friends left,and one guy is gonna go look
while the other guy watches thetape.
Guy sets up the camera like allthe other guys and puts in the
tape.
Segment four.
Yeah.
(07:35):
The sick thing that happened toEmily when she was younger, I
will once again say hell of aguitar.
Um, so a woman named Emily andher boyfriend James video chat.
Emily starts talking about abump on her arm that she has.
She asks James about a doctor.
Um Isn't he a doctor?
Yeah, he's gonna be a doctor.
She asked James about a doctorhe has her go to.
(07:57):
She jokingly asks when Jamesbecomes a doctor if he can
support her so she doesn't haveto work.
Hey.
SPEAKER_01 (08:02):
Did she ever think
that maybe I shouldn't just go
to the doctor to check out thislump on it?
SPEAKER_00 (08:07):
Well, I think she
has, but she's going to like his
doctor, and I'm assuming it'sprobably part of it.
I'm assuming this is a whole bigscam.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah.
Um, and she tries to convincehim by showing her a boobs.
He's like, Well, would thishelp?
SPEAKER_01 (08:19):
Very much so.
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (08:20):
It's like, wow.
SPEAKER_01 (08:22):
Yes.
I forgot what you were helping,but it helps.
SPEAKER_00 (08:25):
Like, I will do it.
So they talk about her apartmentbeing haunted.
James does not believe this, butum recorded scares around their
apartment.
But he ends up recording some ofthe scares around the apartment
that occur.
She walks around saying shehears footsteps in certain
areas.
James tries to explain it away.
She says, Next time it happens,call on.
SPEAKER_01 (08:44):
No, my neighbor
upstairs is a horse.
I know what it sounds like.
SPEAKER_00 (08:48):
Duh.
Mr.
Ed or whatever it is.
So the next night she hearssomething at her door and calls
James.
She goes out to check with Jameswatching, who tells her not to
do it.
He's like, Hey, what are youdoing, dude?
Stay in your room, lady.
What if it's someone in yourhouse?
(09:08):
So while explaining that afteran accident, uh and James moving
away when she was 12, thingsstarted getting weird.
While telling the story,suddenly we see a small figure
in the background.
Then suddenly, what looks liketo be a child comes into the
room and slams the door.
SPEAKER_01 (09:24):
Yeah, that scared
the shit out of me.
SPEAKER_00 (09:25):
And they're freaked.
Great scare.
Wonderful.
Watching this in college, as achild, not a child.
I was in college.
As an adult in my room, in atiny ass room, because you know,
apartment.
And I went, oh.
Yeah, got me too.
I was like, oh, that was good.
Because you see it and you'relike, oh, it's just gonna be one
(09:45):
of those things where it's inthe background and it's scary.
That's a punch the closest childto me.
And then it's just gonna, ohokay.
I'm calling social servicesbecause I have a beard kid.
But you just think like thekid's gonna like eventually walk
away, right?
And it's gonna be like, James,it's gonna be like there's
something behind you, but hedoesn't.
And um, so yeah, James is like,it could have just been the
breeze.
(10:06):
What are you talking about?
And it's like, and that's whenyou're gotta think, I don't
what's up with James?
Why would he say it?
There's obviously a child there.
SPEAKER_01 (10:14):
Like, yeah, and do
you see a breeze?
Yeah, it's like I saw something,but it could have been a breeze.
SPEAKER_00 (10:19):
Maybe your window
was open.
SPEAKER_01 (10:20):
Maybe I maybe I saw
the wind.
SPEAKER_00 (10:22):
I saw the breeze.
She tell uh he tells Emily hedidn't record.
She's like, Of course you did.
The one time you're notrecording.
I bet you got my boobs, though.
Yeah, oh, totally.
Uh, she keeps itching the lumpon her arm as well.
That night she hears a noiseagain and calls him.
She gets scissors and goes tocheck out what's happening and
showing James at the same time.
(10:44):
She goes to look in the livingroom and uses camera for light.
Uh so she like grabs the like uhjust you know, video camera or
no uh picture camera and likestarts taking big pictures and
she eventually sees what lookslike a child and it starts to
glow.
And James says he wasn'trecording again when she runs
back into her bedroom.
It's like I was I just woke up,I was busy.
(11:06):
It's like, man, it's a button onyour button on the screen, man.
What's this what when was thismade?
Uh this was 2012.
I don't know when it's supposedto take place.
I'm assuming around the sametime.
Um, but yeah, a great littlething, except for the can the
the little when it starts toglowing, I was like, eh, it's a
little too much.
But yeah, no, uh, and it kind ofreminds me of Saul.
(11:26):
Yeah, scene in Saul where hetakes a picture and the pig mask
comes out.
Always effective, always works.
Taking pictures in dark room,something jumps out, scelly.
Strobe lights.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
And because it was kind ofbecause it's you're seeing it
through like a shitty webcam, soit looks even glitchier.
So it's kind of like it, it'slike you're trying to look even
harder to see if you seesomething, then you see it, and
(11:48):
it's like, ah.
So she tries to ask her landlordif anyone has ever died in the
apartment thinking it's a child,the spirit is a child.
Uh the landlord denies.
Emily shows James that she is,she's like, Yeah, so you know,
the thing in my arm, I thoughtit might be a bug bite.
So uh I cut a hole in my arm andI'm digging around.
SPEAKER_01 (12:07):
She's lost her
fucking mind.
I mean, at this point, EmilyMaybe she really does have to
watch a call.
SPEAKER_00 (12:14):
She's like a day
with somebody or something.
You gotta have a friend.
Are you just like a lonelyperson hanging out with this
guy?
Like is this her only friend?
SPEAKER_01 (12:22):
Like she has no
other contacts, people that
check up on her every once in awhile.
SPEAKER_00 (12:26):
It definitely seemed
like it.
She's just like go to ahospital.
I don't know.
I mean, it is rough.
And Jesus, go to the doctorgirl.
Yeah, she's really digging inthere.
And then like James is like,hey, stop.
Put some dirt on that.
Why?
What are you doing?
It's like, even though I'm justhere to take an alien baby out
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of you, it's like, I don't wantyou to, I don't want to see this
shit.
You're grossing me out.
Like, sheesh.
But really, he's doing itbecause he doesn't want
whatever's, I'm assuming that'sa tracker.
Tracking device is what he says.
The tracker, yeah, I'd assume.
So one day, Emily wants to gointo a room and search with her
eyes closed so she doesn't getscared, and James can tell her
what's there.
James guides her.
Uh, she soon faces two children,a boy and a girl.
(13:10):
They attack her.
Emily appears unconscious, andJames quickly enters the room
with the children, and it isshown that they are working
together as James has alwaysbeen with her in the apartment,
and he extracts a strangefetus-like thing from her back.
Where was James?
Was he like in an apartment nextdoor?
It had to be.
Yeah, I'm assuming.
He's just in the bathroom.
Yeah.
(13:31):
Soul time.
It's like, oh, this was a lockeddoor.
You didn't know it's here.
Um, I do like the scene.
I mean, the kids is sittingthere, it's kind of like, eh,
whatever.
But um, yeah, when he like pullsthe fetus thing out of the back,
I was like, Yeah, that wasweird.
It's pretty sick.
What are they pulling out ofthere?
And then I was thinking, I waslike, how are you gonna explain
this?
How do you explain your backbeing cut open like that?
SPEAKER_01 (13:51):
Um car crash?
SPEAKER_00 (13:52):
Yeah.
And uh with some concern for heruh life, he asks them how many
times they're gonna need him toremove it before any more grow
inside her, as well as thetracking device implanted in her
arm.
Uh, they respond with inaudiblewhispers and he prepares to
break her arm and bruise her eyeto make it look like a car
accident again before noticingthat her webcam is still on.
(14:13):
Uh, he turns it off, and thescene jumps forward to Emily
talking to James with a blackeye and her arm in a splint.
It's like, yeah, girl, you justfucked, dude.
You got scared, you ran out intothe road and you got hit by a
car.
SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
And it's like, dang,
I wish I'd be like, 'Most gaslit
girl on the planet.' That's whatI put at the end of my notes.
SPEAKER_00 (14:30):
It should have been
like that one time Emily was
gaslit.
But everyone she knew.
Wild, man.
It's like, oh, you want to callthe police?
I'm sure like the police havesome thing for this.
Or did he just throw her out inthe road and was like, Yeah, she
got hit?
I don't know.
Wild, man.
Wild.
(14:51):
It is scary.
Um, but yeah, and then we alsoget like some information.
It's like, you know, like howmany more times are we gonna
have to do this?
So it's like he's been doing itall a lot of different times,
I'm assuming.
He's also talking about like,look, I'm supposed to be in
Michigan.
That's a long way away fromhere.
I can't just keep saying I'm inMichigan when I'm writing in her
house.
Um, which I think is actuallypretty interesting, the whole
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him being in the house the wholetime or at least next door or
something.
That was fun, I thought.
Or and maybe he does live adistance away, and like whenever
it's like, oh, it's getting timeto rip out a fetus of your back.
SPEAKER_01 (15:24):
One of them back
fetuses.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (15:26):
So she tells James
how she went to see the doctor
he recommended who diagnosed heras having a mild form of
schizophrenia, making herbelieve that the ghosts were all
in her head and that she ran infront of a car and does not
remember.
Always trust your doctor.
It's like you should um we getthe line, uh, kind of
heartbreaking, actually.
Yeah.
It's kind of what makes me likeit more.
(15:46):
It's like, you should be withsomeone, you know, someone that
deserves you.
And he's like, No, I love you,baby.
You're the only one for me.
And then they hung up, and avideo cuts to James talking to a
different lady and it's shown heis going to repeat the same
process.
More boobs.
Also dating him and also showsher boobs.
Yay.
The end.
The end.
Yeah.
Um, I like all the walkingthrough the house.
(16:07):
That was pretty cool.
That was great.
I it's fun.
I like the twist.
Um, but yeah, it just doesn'tfully work.
And I I don't know why.
It works better the more timesyou see it, actually.
That having James at the corneris very interesting.
SPEAKER_01 (16:21):
Like, there was a
lot of stuff that did work, and
yeah, like definitely having himin the corner when you get to
the end, you realize that he'sdoing this to all these people.
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
Another bad boy.
So many bad boys.
Bad.
It's just weird.
Like, I want to know, did theyall come up like is there was
there a theme like shitty assboys?
But then like it's not itdoesn't fully work because the
next one, the last one, and theone before this, it was a girl
doing it, and the last one was aguy doing uh and nice guys,
(16:51):
yeah.
So it just seemed like and maybethey're just kind of going for
like the old, you know, a lot ofthese people are probably Gen
Xers or something directingthese, and you know, they
probably grew up on 70s and 80shorror, which was mostly, hey,
it's people taking advantage ofwomen, and then the women like
kill men.
SPEAKER_01 (17:07):
That's a scary
thing.
Uh for me, that's a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (17:11):
I feel afraid for
women all the time.
Yeah, and they they you knowgrew up in the era where like
every movie has to show boobs,you know.
SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
Yeah, they do
though.
It's contractual.
SPEAKER_00 (17:20):
Yeah.
So like I I'm assuming that'swhy there's so much like men
manipulating women in these, butI don't know.
This one is fun.
I like this one.
SPEAKER_01 (17:30):
Maybe they're just
not creative enough to scare
women.
Yeah.
So you have to show them gettingassaulted.
SPEAKER_00 (17:35):
It's like, yeah,
this is what I want to.
If I ever got a woman, this iswhat I would want to do to her.
I'm gonna put a bump on her armand she's dig through her arm.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
Crazy.
Like, I wonder how manydifferent girls like he has set
up doing this with.
Probably a bunch.
I would assume.
And like, what are the aliens?
Like, what are you?
What is he getting out of this?
Just boobs?
(17:56):
Uh maybe money.
Maybe money.
Alien money?
SPEAKER_01 (18:00):
Space books.
I have five zips.
Um not dying, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:07):
Possibly.
Maybe like they can manipulatestuff and they like give them
better jobs or make themsmarter.
I don't know.
But yeah, that's pretty much itI got for this one.
You got anything else for thissegment?
No, it was pretty cool though.
Yeah, so that's the end of thissegment.
We only have one more bonusepisode.
Wah, wah, wah.
But it's a fun one because nextweek we're doing 103198.
(18:28):
I love this one.
It's great.
It was, it was I think the firsttime I watched it was my
favorite.
The hands and stuff.
Yeah, the hands.
Uh, but yeah, join us next weekfor that.
Like, follow, subscribe, leaveus a message, review us.
Thank you, Joey Prosser.
Guys, we're gonna see you nexttime on the Flippity Flop.
This has been the We Wicked Menpodcast.
I'm Jesse.
(18:49):
Jason.
Uh um, and you guys, you guysdeserve to be listening to you
guys, uh, you guys should belistening to uh podcasts that
you know that you deserve.
Bye.