We Saw the Devil: A True Crime Podcast

We Saw the Devil: A True Crime Podcast

From Lori Vallow and Pam Hupp, to cannibals, serial killers and more, We Saw the Devil is a true crime podcast that deep-dives into fascinating criminal cases, both solved and unsolved. Past and present. We discuss both notorious and lesser-known cases, turning over every rock and exploring every nook and cranny of the case. On this show, you don't have to wait 30 minutes through our life story to get into the case. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.

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November 15, 2025 33 mins
Over 20,000 documents related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein were just released by Congress, and they paint a damning picture of Donald Trump's relationship with the convicted sex trafficker. From the 2011 "dog that hasn't barked" email to the 2019 bombshell where Epstein wrote "of course he knew about the girls," let's walk through the complete chronological timeline of what Epstein said about Trump, who stayed connecte...
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It's been a wild week in American politics.

The Supreme Court declined to overturn marriage equality, leaving Kim Davis (the Kentucky clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples) stuck with a $360,000 bill and zero sympathy. Meanwhile, after 43 days of chaos, the government shutdown is finally ending, but Democrats caved without securing protections for the 20+ million Americans about to lose their health insurance s...
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THE CIRCLEVILLE LETTERS: AMERICA'S MOST DISTURBING ANONYMOUS THREAT CAMPAIGN


For over two decades, someone in Circleville, Ohio waged one of the most extensive campaigns of psychological terror in American history. Thousands of letters. Hundreds of victims. Secrets, accusations, and threats that knew too much about people's private lives.


In 1976, school bus driver Mary Gillispie started receiving letters accusing her of having an af...
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Day 39 of the longest government shutdown in history. This isn't dysfunction...it's weaponized cruelty.

I just got married. Now the Supreme Court is considering whether to erase marriage equality. The Trump administration hijacked federal employees' emails for partisan propaganda. They manufactured a crisis to justify deploying troops to Portland. 40 million Americans didn't receive SNAP benefits for the first time ever. But here's ...
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Dive into late 2025's cultural and political chaos. Robind discusses Lily Allen's scorched-earth divorce album West End Girl and why it's resonating with women, dissects the viral JD Vance-Erika Kirk hug conspiracy theories, and explores the month-long government shutdown leaving millions hungry while red states cry about "big government" despite being the biggest welfare recipients.

Topics:
  • Lily Allen's musical revenge against D...
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November 2, 2025 57 mins
Robin welcomes back returning guest Iris for a deep dive into the twisted mind of filmmaker Zach Cregger. Fresh off a belated Halloween celebration,  we discuss two very different entries in Cregger's filmography: the surprise horror hit Barbarian (2022) and his latest offering Weapons (2025). From underground lairs to interconnected narratives, Robin and Iris explore what makes Cregger's approach to horror so uniquely unsettling a...
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MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Red, White & Bruised now has its own podcast feed! Subscribe here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/red-white-bruised/id1848143946 Starting next week, Red, White & Bruised will ONLY be available on the new feed. We Saw the Devil will return to true crime content. Follow the new show NOW so you don't miss an episode!

This week: The government shutdown hits day 24, air traffic controllers are driving f...
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CASE 1: WHERE IS MELODEE BUZZARD?
Nine-year-old Melodee Buzzard vanished from Vandenberg Village, California, and her mother refuses to tell investigators where she is. We explore the troubling circumstances surrounding her disappearance, including a mysterious 1,500-mile road trip to Nebraska, years of systematic family isolation, and the lack of educational oversight. Evidence suggests Melodee was last seen on October 7th, 2025. ...
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On August 23, 2010, police discovered the body of MI6 spy Gareth Williams locked inside a gym bag in his London flat. The brilliant mathematician and GCHQ codebreaker was found naked, decomposing, padlocked from the outside in a red North Face holdall. The key was inside the bag, under his body.



Two forensic experts attempted to replicate the scenario 400 times. They failed every single time.

Was it murder? An accident? Russian intel...
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On October 18th, over 2,500 No Kings protests are planned across all 50 states.

For this episode, Robin analyzes the documented evidence and calculates the probability that the Trump administration uses these demonstrations as justification to invoke the Insurrection Act. From NSPM-7, National Guard deployments, and historical precedent, we're looking at a potential powder keg.

Topics covered: protest safety guidance, ICE detention...
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IRIS IS BACK, BABY!

October means horror movies (it's the only time of year I can get away with it) and questionable life choices, so naturally she picked Immaculate, starring Sydney Sweeney, a convent, and vibes that are NOT Christ-like. Robin countered with The Dark and the Wicked, a film so psychologically deranged it makes Hereditary look like a Hallmark movie.

Saturday: Robin's back to doing true crime, and this one's WILD. Inv...
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This week was chaos.

Stephen Miller said "plenary authority" on CNN then froze, revealing they want unlimited power. ICE is abducting U.S. citizens. The government took over federal emails to blame Democrats. And MAGA doesn't know Puerto Ricans are Americans. 

Let's talk about it. 

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A short review, because I just watched Netflix's "My Father, the BTK Killer" and I need to talk about it.

This isn't another documentary glorifying a serial killer. This is Kerri Rawson's story. She's the daughter of Dennis Rader, the BTK killer who murdered 10 people over nearly two decades while pretending to be a normal dad.

Imagine finding out your Boy Scout leader father, who danced with you to John Denver and took you on family...
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This is it. The last time we're talking about Chris Chan. Ever.

After 18 years of internet infamy, we're closing the book on one of the most documented...and most disturbing...stories online. This final episode covers 2021-2025: the incest arrest that broke the internet, the charges that mysteriously vanished, and Chris's bizarre new life involving international travel, a mysterious girlfriend named Flutter, and somehow... stability...
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Federal agents rappeling from Black Hawk helicopters onto Chicago apartments. A U.S. citizen shot by Border Patrol. Military brass are humiliated at Quantico while being told to use American cities as "training grounds."

Robin discusses her thoughts Operation Midway Blitz's 800+ arrests, Portland's federal occupation, and the systematic removal of military accountability. Why are veteran lawmakers calling these actions "borderline f...
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What happened after the internet's most documented person got arrested for one of the most disturbing allegations imaginable? This deep-dive covers everything from the July 2021 incest call leak that broke the internet, to the livestreamed arrest that got 3,000 viewers, to 19 months behind bars, and the wild journey that followed.


The sketchy Discord manipulators, the Watchmen "protectors," the psychiatric hospital stay, and how Ch...
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The house is on fire, and too many people are still pretending it’s just a candle burning.

This is the first episode of Red, White & Bruised, a weekly political analysis series. Every Sunday, I’ll discuss the headlines and give my two cents on this current hellscape that we are living through. 

For the debut, we’re walking step by step through Donald Trump’s march toward authoritarianism, a documented trail of power grabs that’s...
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The story continues!

Chris Chan...once a niche internet personality and meme figure, has become one of the most infamous names in online history. In this episode, Robin continues the story and documents Chris Chan’s final descent/break from reality, his spiral into delusion, escalating conflicts, and the disturbing events that turned his story from internet curiosity into criminal infamy...the horrifying revelations about his relat...
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September 24, 2025 39 mins
After a long hiatus, I’m back...and I’m not holding back. In this brutally honest return episode, I talk about why I walked away from the mic: burnout, grief, disillusionment with the true crime space, and a world that feels increasingly unrecognizable. From Charlie Kirk to Chris Chan...we're back. 

Let's talk about what you can expect from WSTD in the future. 

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April 25, 2025 50 mins
Robin and Iris unpack the guilty verdict in the Lori Vallow trial—covering our favorite bits of testimony, our true opinions, and how the case unfolded in court. This podcast has covered the murders of JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan, and the influence of Chad Daybell in the past. Let's talk about Lori's 2nd trial, and what we're looking forward to next. 
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