We Saw the Devil: A True Crime Podcast

We Saw the Devil: A True Crime Podcast

From Lori Vallow and Pam Hupp, to cannibals, serial killers and more, We Saw the Devil is a true crime podcast that deep-dives into fascinating criminal cases, both solved and unsolved. Past and present. We discuss both notorious and lesser-known cases, turning over every rock and exploring every nook and cranny of the case. On this show, you don't have to wait 30 minutes through our life story to get into the case. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support.

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October 11, 2025 47 mins
This week was chaos.

Stephen Miller said "plenary authority" on CNN then froze, revealing they want unlimited power. ICE is abducting U.S. citizens. The government took over federal emails to blame Democrats. And MAGA doesn't know Puerto Ricans are Americans. 

Let's talk about it. 

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A short review, because I just watched Netflix's "My Father, the BTK Killer" and I need to talk about it.

This isn't another documentary glorifying a serial killer. This is Kerri Rawson's story. She's the daughter of Dennis Rader, the BTK killer who murdered 10 people over nearly two decades while pretending to be a normal dad.

Imagine finding out your Boy Scout leader father, who danced with you to John Denver and took you on family...
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This is it. The last time we're talking about Chris Chan. Ever.

After 18 years of internet infamy, we're closing the book on one of the most documented...and most disturbing...stories online. This final episode covers 2021-2025: the incest arrest that broke the internet, the charges that mysteriously vanished, and Chris's bizarre new life involving international travel, a mysterious girlfriend named Flutter, and somehow... stability...
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Federal agents rappeling from Black Hawk helicopters onto Chicago apartments. A U.S. citizen shot by Border Patrol. Military brass are humiliated at Quantico while being told to use American cities as "training grounds."

Robin discusses her thoughts Operation Midway Blitz's 800+ arrests, Portland's federal occupation, and the systematic removal of military accountability. Why are veteran lawmakers calling these actions "borderline f...
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What happened after the internet's most documented person got arrested for one of the most disturbing allegations imaginable? This deep-dive covers everything from the July 2021 incest call leak that broke the internet, to the livestreamed arrest that got 3,000 viewers, to 19 months behind bars, and the wild journey that followed.


The sketchy Discord manipulators, the Watchmen "protectors," the psychiatric hospital stay, and how Ch...
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The house is on fire, and too many people are still pretending it’s just a candle burning.

This is the first episode of Red, White & Bruised, a weekly political analysis series. Every Sunday, I’ll discuss the headlines and give my two cents on this current hellscape that we are living through. 

For the debut, we’re walking step by step through Donald Trump’s march toward authoritarianism, a documented trail of power grabs that’s...
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The story continues!

Chris Chan...once a niche internet personality and meme figure, has become one of the most infamous names in online history. In this episode, Robin continues the story and documents Chris Chan’s final descent/break from reality, his spiral into delusion, escalating conflicts, and the disturbing events that turned his story from internet curiosity into criminal infamy...the horrifying revelations about his relat...
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September 24, 2025 39 mins
After a long hiatus, I’m back...and I’m not holding back. In this brutally honest return episode, I talk about why I walked away from the mic: burnout, grief, disillusionment with the true crime space, and a world that feels increasingly unrecognizable. From Charlie Kirk to Chris Chan...we're back. 

Let's talk about what you can expect from WSTD in the future. 

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April 25, 2025 50 mins
Robin and Iris unpack the guilty verdict in the Lori Vallow trial—covering our favorite bits of testimony, our true opinions, and how the case unfolded in court. This podcast has covered the murders of JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan, and the influence of Chad Daybell in the past. Let's talk about Lori's 2nd trial, and what we're looking forward to next. 
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It's been a fascinating week! For this episode, Robin covers some of the current true crime headlines headlines from the week: The trials of Karen Read, Lori Vallow, and Bryan Kohberger...as well as what's going on with the nightmare anesthesiologist husband out of Hawaii, and yesterday's shooting of the wife of Weezer's bassist. It's been quite a few days. 

Next week? Let's talk paraphilias! From eyeballing licking, to amputees, fe...
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Robin is back! For this episode, she gives a life update and then covers some of the current true crime headlines headlines, from the upcoming Karen Read trial (Part 2: Electric Boogaloo), where questions of justice and accountability are at the forefront, to the updates surrounding Bryan Kohberger and the case of the Moscow 4.  She also touches on the tragic case of Kei'Mani Latigue and the unsettling reports of TWO deaths during ...
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⚠️ Warning: This episode gets dark. Real dark. Listen at your own risk.

More than 15 women have now come forward saying that iconic fantasy writer Neil Gaiman (Coraline, The Sandman, Good Omens, American Gods) either blurred the line of consent, or directly and violently assaulted them.

On Monday, New York Magazine and its website Vulture published detailed firsthand accusations from eight women. The explicit details have shocked th...
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As 2025 unfolds, the world seems more unhinged than ever. We're only 12 days in and everything is on fire. It's fine.

In this episode, Robin sits down with friend and author/cultural commentator Jeff X Martin to dive into the madness of the year so far. From the devastating New Orleans New Year's Day Attack to the shocking Tesla Trump Hotel bombing, we get weird with it. 
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In this episode, Robin discusses the heartbreaking story of Mia Zapata, the charismatic lead singer of the punk band The Gits, whose life was tragically cut short in 1993. Mia was a rising star in Seattle’s grunge and punk music scene, known for her raw, emotional vocals and undeniable stage presence. Her shocking and brutal murder not only devastated her bandmates and fans but also sent shockwaves through the global music communit...
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In this episode, Robin talks about what she's been up to, seeing Chelsea Wolfe, and then dives into the latest developments from the UAP sightings around the country. Why are they being covered on NPR and CNN? 

Also discussed is the Congressional hearing on UAPs, the intriguing intersection of psychics and law enforcement, and channeler Darryl Anka. Let's get weird. 
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Two young Mormon missionaries (Sophie Thatcher, Chloe East) become ensnared in a deadly game of cat and mouse when they knock on the door of the diabolical Mr. Reed (Hugh Grant). Trapped in his home, they must turn to their faith if they want to make it out alive. 


For this episode, Robin reviews and discusses the newly-released A24 thriller/horror film HERETIC. Why is it her pick for Best Film of 2024? 

SPOILERS ABOUND. 
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November 4, 2024 37 mins
Robin discusses the Terrifier franchise, as well as what she's been watching during the month of October. Is it time to move on from documentaries that discuss possible identities of unknown killers? Can Ryan Murphy do anything right at all? Let's discuss. 

***This episode is unedited. 
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In this episode, Robin explores the multifaceted role of artificial intelligence in shaping the worlds of entertainment, art, and crime prevention.

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July 27th, 1996. Atlanta, Georgia. During a free concert at Atlanta’s Centennial Olympic Park, security guard Richard Jewell spotted an abandoned backpack. Authorities soon discovered that it contained a live bomb. The bomb detonated minutes later, but Jewell’s actions saved countless lives. Days later, he became the main suspect in the bombing. The public would immediately associate him with the bombing and some would continue to ...
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ONE MORE EPISODE LEFT! Super quick transition episode this week covering just a couple events between 2017-2020, setting the stage for the fallout to come from the leaked incest call with Isabella Janke. The final episode will be coming at the end of the week, and then we are moving forward from Chris Chan! 
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