We Watch TV Episode 107 – Stranger Things is ENDING

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 In this episode of We Watch TV, Hope and Daniel discuss the latest announcements for shows returning in the back half of 2025. The hosts also react to season 1 of Apple TV+’s The Studio as well as season 1 of Netflix’s The Four Seasons.

(00:00:00) Intro
(00:01:58) Second Half 2025 Shows and Dates
(00:27:53) The Studio
(00:42:58) The Four Seasons

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Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
I have nothing funny in my mind whatsoever to say to

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start this podcast.
I am completely blank andbroken.

SPEAKER_01 (00:06):
Okay, I'll do it.
I hope you know what the bit is.
Okay.
If not, it's going to fail.

SPEAKER_00 (00:27):
Hey everybody and welcome to We Watch TV.
It is the podcast about the TVthat we watch.
I am Daniel.
She is Hope.
This is episode 107.
We're coming to you live,pre-recorded from the internet.

SPEAKER_02 (00:42):
We always pre-record though.

SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
That was a joke.

SPEAKER_02 (00:45):
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (00:52):
Now you said you had something.

SPEAKER_01 (00:54):
I guess.
how to open it.
So anytime my mind space goes tolike, what do I think about?
I always go back to thisparticular scene from a very
popular show.
Give me a break.
Give me a break.
Break me off a piece of that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10):
Fancy feast.

SPEAKER_01 (01:13):
Yay, you got it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14):
I knew that one.

SPEAKER_01 (01:15):
And that show is The Office.

SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
Which we are not going to talk about anymore
today.

SPEAKER_01 (01:21):
But we're going to talk

SPEAKER_00 (01:22):
about Steve Carell.
That is true.
That is true.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
But not right now.
It's time

SPEAKER_00 (01:32):
to talk.
Not to go behind the curtain oranything, but we're recording
this episode and the lastepisode consecutively on the
same day, and it was reallydifficult for us to figure out
how to change energy and go intoa new episode and make it seem
like it's a new episode, so...

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Here we are.
I think we pulled it off until Ijust now revealed it.

SPEAKER_01 (01:59):
Maybe.
Anyway, speaking of new, we havesome new release dates
officially out.
We have some dates that we kindof already known about.
So usually about twice a year welike to talk about what we're
looking forward to.
So I have compiled a list ofthe...
We'll be right back.

SPEAKER_00 (02:41):
What's the 23 even for?
What does that

SPEAKER_01 (02:43):
mean?
D23 is always called D23.
I

SPEAKER_00 (02:45):
thought D23, that was because they had it in 2023.
But what's the 23 mean?

SPEAKER_01 (02:51):
Michael Jordan's number?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (02:53):
I don't think Disney named their conference D23.
I don't know.
Anyway.
Michael Jordan's number.

SPEAKER_01 (03:03):
Great idea to record two podcasts in a row.
One of our better ideas.

SPEAKER_00 (03:09):
It's a double feature that you guys are going
to have to listen to inconsecutive weeks.
Just

SPEAKER_01 (03:13):
like how Netflix keeps doing part one and part
two of their shows.
It's

SPEAKER_00 (03:17):
frustrating, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 (03:18):
Shall I get into it?
I should

SPEAKER_00 (03:21):
calm down.

SPEAKER_01 (03:23):
The article I pulled up did not put these in order of
release date, so I wasn't goingto go back through and order
them even though my OCD brainwanted to, but...
Yeah, we're going to talk aboutall the stuff coming to Netflix
now.
All right.
So I hope you do want this.
Nobody wants this.
October 23rd.

SPEAKER_00 (03:43):
California.
That is the show.
Sorry.
Mr.
Adam Brody.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (03:49):
Seth Cohen from the OC and Dave Rogowski from
Gilmore Girls.
And Kristen.
It's not Kristen Bell.
I almost said Kristen Stewart.
No.
Kristen Bell from Veronica Mars.
The voice of Gossip Girl.
XOXO.

SPEAKER_00 (04:05):
I like season one of this show.
I'm looking forward to more.
I

SPEAKER_01 (04:08):
loved season one.
I thought it was great.
It's a show that anytimesomebody's like, I need
something to watch.
I'm like, please watch.
Nobody wants this.
It was really well written.
The characters were very fleshedout, but they were characters
that you want to root for, butthey're still flawed.

SPEAKER_00 (04:22):
Do you remember that the week we talked about this
show, you mistakenly let me bein charge of social medias?

UNKNOWN (04:30):
I don't want to talk about this.

SPEAKER_00 (04:33):
talked about it on that later anyways

SPEAKER_01 (04:36):
normally I put together the social post or if
I'm not if I'm not able to postI send Daniel the photos but I
was like can you find a photo so

SPEAKER_00 (04:46):
I found a photo and put it up it had the two main
characters in it and Icompletely missed the fact that
it was a picture a picture fromthe scene where they're in the
sex shop and it had all the toyson the wall behind

SPEAKER_01 (04:58):
the wall of like can I say the whole wall of dildos
it was awful and I So I'mlooking at it in horror, and I'm
like, I'm going to change thispost and put something new.
I didn't even see them.
I don't want that.

SPEAKER_00 (05:11):
I'm blind.
I'm dildo blind.

SPEAKER_01 (05:12):
Oh, no.
We can't traumatize ourlisteners.
Anyway, I'm excited for thatshow.
Me too.
All right, now I know you.
Oh, I'm already fired up, readyto fight.
So Daniel always acts like ahater, but this is one of your
first favorite shows that youhad on Netflix.

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You will still watch it.
You're still excited to see itend.
We finally have a date, guys,for Stranger Things Season 5.
They're going to do a three-partrelease.
We've got Part 1, HappyThanksgiving.
I don't think Thanksgiving's onNovember 26th, but it'll be
around Thanksgiving, November26th.
Part two, Merry Christmas,Christmas Day.

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And then with the part three,which will be the finale, which
I assume is probably going to bea movie length episode, will air
on New Year's Eve.
Now, while I hate the twoparters, I actually don't mind
it that they're going to make uswait to watch the finale.

SPEAKER_00 (06:08):
Because it's going to take you that long to watch
them all.
No.
Because it's like a week longepisode at this point.
Can I have the floor,

SPEAKER_01 (06:15):
please?
Can I have the floor?
Fine.
Anyway, the internet has nochill.
There will be some people thatdon't have, you know, life
responsibilities, et cetera,that will sit there and watch
the whole thing and then make ittheir life's goal to ruin it for
everybody by putting the endingon the internet.
I know that I'll be able to kickback on New Year's Eve and watch
the finale and I won't have torisk that part being spoiled for

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me because if they dropped allof part two on Christmas day, on
Christmas day, I'm watching likeHome Alone again.
I'm watching like Muppets.
I'm watching my Christmasfavorites.
I probably will in the eveningwhen I start getting that, you
know, I always get real sad andbummed out on Christmas Day.
The build-up to Christmas, whichis why I celebrate all of
November and December, is betterthan the actual day.

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Christmas Eve is better thanChristmas Day.
Do you agree with me?
Or do you like sitting aroundeating Chinese food doing
nothing?
I

SPEAKER_00 (07:06):
don't think you can overrate Christmas.
Sitting around eating Chinesefood doing nothing.
I mean, the fact that we havenot

SPEAKER_01 (07:13):
had Chinese food since the amount we consumed on
December 25th speaks volumes.
I'll be ready for it again atChristmas.
We like to order a mess ofChinese food that we eat between
the two of us, and they give usutensils to feed a family of 20.
So that's, yeah.
It's

SPEAKER_00 (07:27):
just us, though.

SPEAKER_01 (07:28):
But anyway, we'll be eating our Chinese food and
watching part

SPEAKER_00 (07:30):
two of Stranger Things.
You're right.
I am excited for season five ofStranger Things so that it will
be over.

SPEAKER_01 (07:36):
It's crazy what they say.
We've been through four.

SPEAKER_00 (07:38):
Four presidential administrations.
Believe it or not, season onecame out under the Obama
administration.
That's insane.
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 (07:45):
So we've had Obama, Trump won, Biden, and now Trump
too.

SPEAKER_00 (07:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (07:50):
That is insane.
These kids, I really think theyneed to do a time jump because
it's just getting laughable.
I mean, Joe Keery at this pointis like in his 30s, plays Steve
Harrington.
Better not lay a finger on mybaby's head because he better
survive.
If Steve dies, I'm going to beso mad.
I've accepted the fact that Imight not get Steve and Nancy in
game, that they might give usJancy, Jonathan and Nancy.

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But I just want Steve tosurvive.
And I'm real worried about Steveand I'm worried about Dustin.
Gotta say.
You don't think that they'regoing to kill

SPEAKER_00 (08:23):
off any of these people?
I'm not stressed out about it atall.

SPEAKER_01 (08:25):
You're on the other side of it?

SPEAKER_00 (08:26):
I am well on the other side of Stranger Things.
But

SPEAKER_01 (08:29):
you do like Stranger Things.
It's one of the very firstshows.

SPEAKER_00 (08:33):
They've gotten too indulgent.
They've gotten too over theirown heads.

SPEAKER_01 (08:36):
You already said the episodes

SPEAKER_00 (08:37):
are going to be super long.
I don't need an episode that'stwo hours long.
No.
That's no.
No.

SPEAKER_01 (08:43):
Well, I'm looking forward to it, to seeing how it
all wraps up.
I've invested a lot of time andenergy into this.
We've essentially seen these...
kids grabbing millie bobby brownis a married woman now that's
insane to me when she was like alittle girl in the first season
i do i did see a comment and ireally think i agreed with the
commenter on the video but thegirl was like is stranger things

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to blame for these glacial pacesbetween shows and then only
giving us like a few episodes Ithink yes it's definitely one of
the ones that really it was oneof the most popular streaming
shows when streaming was reallytaking off and like Netflix
originals I know it's not thefirst Netflix original but it's
definitely one of those but Iagree with the commenter that
was like no Game of Thrones didit first I was like yes

SPEAKER_00 (09:25):
Game of Thrones Game of Thrones did the like episode
only like eight episodes nineepisodes a season and they make
you wait

SPEAKER_01 (09:31):
forever at

SPEAKER_00 (09:32):
the beginning they didn't like at the beginning of
Game of Thrones I think that thefirst four seasons.
They were like annual, likeevery year they came out.
It was only at the end when theyhad to start making it up

SPEAKER_01 (09:42):
forever.

SPEAKER_00 (09:43):
Yeah.
But we didn't start watchinguntil like season four was
already out.

SPEAKER_01 (09:47):
Yeah.
I think Game of Thrones reallystarted the trend, though, of
that.
But Stranger Things definitelyhas taken its good old-fashioned
time way too slow, in myopinion.
So they better bring it for thefinale.
This show better be wrapped upwell.
And I think the Duffer Brothershave already confirmed they're
not going to do a cop-outending.
But if they would, and with theboys as little kids again

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playing a D&D game, being like,well, that was crazy, I will
flip tables.

SPEAKER_00 (10:14):
Listen, okay.
I think that would be afrustrating ending.
I will

SPEAKER_01 (10:17):
throw Throw my Christmas tree out the window.

SPEAKER_00 (10:19):
I think that would be a frustrating ending and I am
not for it.
However, if they knew that wasthe ending all along and they
recorded it back in season oneand it was those kids like then,
I would at least respect it.

SPEAKER_01 (10:32):
You know what though?
We've already seen a show thathad the worst finale of all time
do that.
How I Met Your Mother recordedthe kids' reactions in season
one and I do not respect it.
I hate it.
It's because I hate him.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (10:46):
June 27th, Squid Game Season 3.

SPEAKER_01 (10:50):
I am very excited, and it's going to be stressful
for us because we're going to beon vacation and not able to
watch it, and I'm going to haveto not watch TikToks to get
Squid Game ruined for me becauseI just can't see us kicking back
watching Squid Game.
I don't know, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
No, I don't think so.
At

SPEAKER_01 (11:07):
least we'll have plenty of time.
I think we'll fly through it.

SPEAKER_00 (11:09):
Oh, we always do.

SPEAKER_01 (11:11):
Do we think he's going to make it out of the
games?

SPEAKER_00 (11:14):
I don't know.
I'm not sure how this is goingto end.
Four,

SPEAKER_01 (11:17):
six, two.
Is that his name?
The name of the player?

SPEAKER_00 (11:20):
No, I don't remember at this point.
This is a great

SPEAKER_01 (11:23):
idea.
Recording two podcasts in a row.
We're

SPEAKER_00 (11:25):
talking about shows.
We can't remember.
I honestly don't know wherethey're going to go with it
because I didn't know.
I was shocked by the end ofseason one.

SPEAKER_01 (11:33):
Well, his friend died, but he still doesn't know
that player one was the guythat's in charge of it.

SPEAKER_00 (11:39):
And I was really surprised that season two, like,
and I knew this, but halfwaythrough season two, I was like,
oh, they're not finishing thesegames in this season.

SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
Season two is going to pick up.
And I read that it was seasontwo and three was actually made
to be one season and Netflixmade them separate it.
But he doesn't know that, like,he just knows that, like, I
think he's going to assume thatplayer one was killed along with
his friend.
So he still doesn't know thathe's kind of like the...
The guy that's, what do theycall him?
That's like in charge ofeverything.
I don't even remember.

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I know.
I feel like we were really intoSquid Game.
Loved it.
Flew through two seasons and nowwe're just kind of biding our
time.
Until season three, but yeah,that'll be good, June 27th.
So Wednesday, we already knewthat Wednesday was coming back,
but we get season two, part one,August 6th, part two, September
3rd, but the big thing at theNetflix event was that they did

(12:29):
drop the first five minutes,which I have watched.
Have you watched it yet?
No.
So it's really funny because wegot Wednesday.
talking about what she did onher break and she references how
she was always obsessed withsolving one of these serial
killer mysteries.
So we have her at TSA goingthrough and she's taking out
each of the weapons and then youknow what I know what they

(12:50):
yelled at her for?
Her sunblock.
It was a good bit.
And then they have her using herpsychotic or psychotic?

SPEAKER_00 (13:00):
Psychic.

SPEAKER_01 (13:01):
Psychic.
We should not have recorded thetwo episodes in a row.
Her psychic abilities.
Just a little bit psychoticflare because they are at the
Addis family.

SPEAKER_00 (13:10):
Psychotic ability is what you use on me when I snore
too loud.

SPEAKER_01 (13:13):
Okay.
So you admit you snore?

SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
No.
Okay.
I admit nothing.
Allegedly.
When I allegedly snore too loud.

SPEAKER_01 (13:21):
I have videoed you before.
I

SPEAKER_00 (13:24):
did not consent to that.
So you cannot use it on

SPEAKER_01 (13:27):
social media.
Anyway, Haley Joel Osment isgoing to be in it, the little
creepy boy from The Sixth Sensewho's now an adult man now.

SPEAKER_00 (13:32):
I think he's like a normal adult man

SPEAKER_01 (13:34):
now.
He's grown up.
He's been like 25 years sincethat movie.
Got it, got it.
He's playing the serial killerand he makes little dolls of his
victims.
So we did get the first fiveminutes.
It looks good.
I'm excited to have content inAugust and September, but I
don't understand why Netflixwon't drop this in October for

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Halloween Like, I would ratherhave gotten Nobody Wants This in
August, which they didn't sayanything about parts on that
one.
So, but then they're like, whyare you giving me, which I
guess, you know, technically Ido start decorating for
Halloween in August.
So now more of a reason to doso.
It just seems like it would havebeen more fitting.

SPEAKER_00 (14:11):
I can accept this show as like an August,
September drop because by thetime.
I mean, my skeleton will be out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The skeleton will be out.
And a lot of people aren't likeus.
Sitting there just watching fromthe moment that it drops.
There will probably be plenty ofpeople that will be like, oh,
I'll watch that later.

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Unless

SPEAKER_01 (14:32):
it suits LA.
We're usually right on it rightaway.
All right.
You want to check out the nextone?
See you tomorrow.
Never again.

SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
Another item announced at BADUM was the third
Knives Out film, Wake Up theDead.

SPEAKER_01 (14:52):
Wake up, dead man, a Knives Out mystery.

SPEAKER_00 (14:54):
Wake up, dead man, a Knives Out mystery.

SPEAKER_01 (14:56):
And it comes out...

SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
December 12th.

SPEAKER_01 (14:59):
December 12th.
What's up with all thisDecember?
That's when I'm watchingHallmarks.
And then you want to put amystery thing in there?
Come on, guys.
I like

SPEAKER_00 (15:06):
the Knives Out movies.
I do.
I love them.
They've been very good.

SPEAKER_01 (15:09):
But I need my December.
There's so much coming out inDecember.
That's my holiday time.
That's where I watch I'm Up atChristmas Carol and Home Alone
and Christmas Vacation like 50times in a row and all our
wonderful Hallmark movies.
And we did get a Diva ChristmasCarol or something that you
ordered me with VanessaWilliams.
And I'm really looking forwardto debuting that one for

SPEAKER_00 (15:27):
you.
Yeah, I'm looking forward tothat as well.
Her name

SPEAKER_01 (15:30):
is Ebony Scrooge.

SPEAKER_00 (15:32):
Everybody and look forward to my review on that
this coming December.

SPEAKER_01 (15:36):
That's what we should kick off our holiday
things with this time.
We should introduce you to thatclassic.
Speaking of classics, do youhave anything else to say?

SPEAKER_00 (15:46):
No, I don't.

SPEAKER_01 (15:48):
I don't know.
I think I have a typo here.
Buy a Happy Gilmore.
I think it should be HappyGilmore Season 2.

SPEAKER_00 (15:55):
Happy Gilmore 2?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (15:57):
She

SPEAKER_00 (15:58):
said season 2.

SPEAKER_01 (16:01):
Happy Gilmore 2, a movie.

SPEAKER_00 (16:03):
The sequel to Happy Gilmore.

SPEAKER_01 (16:06):
With Adam Sandler, July 25th.
And they did drop the fulltrailer for that.
It looks like Carl Weathersobviously can't be in it, but
they have somebody playing hisson.
And you remember how he alwayshad the wooden hand?
Yes.
They're doing that bit again.
You know what?
I think Adam Sandler has a dealwith Netflix to do a bunch of
movies.
You better be glad, Daniel, thatthis was on Netflix because I

(16:26):
would have made you go to thetheaters

SPEAKER_00 (16:28):
to see it with me.
I am anticipating...
Shooter McGavin's going to showup.
I'm anticipating a stinker.

SPEAKER_01 (16:34):
Julie Bowen from Modern, who now I just see as
Claire from Modern Family, isreprising her role.

SPEAKER_00 (16:38):
Two thumbs down.
You

SPEAKER_01 (16:40):
haven't even seen it

SPEAKER_00 (16:41):
yet.
I don't think it's a win.
The price

SPEAKER_01 (16:42):
is wrong.

SPEAKER_00 (16:43):
It looks to me like they're just repeating all the
jokes from the first one.

SPEAKER_01 (16:47):
And you know what?
I couldn't be happier.

SPEAKER_00 (16:49):
Just watch the first.
No, no, no.
Just watch the first one.
If you want the jokes from thefirst one, watch the first one.
On

SPEAKER_01 (16:56):
July 25th, consider me set.
It's

SPEAKER_00 (16:57):
going to be a happy Gilmore Day.
Don't make another one with thesame jokes.

SPEAKER_01 (17:03):
Quiet.

SPEAKER_00 (17:06):
The Bear, everyone on this podcast's favorite show.

SPEAKER_01 (17:10):
Now we're out of the Netflix to dumb.

SPEAKER_00 (17:13):
Is on June 25th, the full season.
Somebody, somebody has somesanity and just gives us
everything we want.

SPEAKER_01 (17:20):
The full drop.
Season four.
Do we know if it's the lastseason or not?
I

SPEAKER_00 (17:25):
don't know.
It hasn't been announced.

SPEAKER_01 (17:27):
June 25th.
I feel like it should be.
I'm going to need some carmycharacter growth because he's
the only one that I feel like isbeing stagnant.
We know they're going to havemoney issues.
Did you watch the trailer forthat?

SPEAKER_00 (17:37):
No.

SPEAKER_01 (17:38):
You are very prepared for this podcast.
I

SPEAKER_00 (17:41):
don't need to watch the trailer.
I know what's going to happen.
They're going to yell in thekitchen.

SPEAKER_01 (17:44):
I need to see Richie singing to Taylor Swift again.
Oh.
Because that was my favorite.
That wasn't last season.
That was season two.
Yeah, I don't know why y'all aresleeping on the bear, but you
need to go watch the bear.
Come on.
Watch the bear.
Or we'll give you a haunt.
That's a haunt.
The bear?

SPEAKER_00 (18:03):
I know.

UNKNOWN (18:04):
Oh.

SPEAKER_01 (18:04):
You just feel confused.

SPEAKER_00 (18:07):
I'm just anticipating the next one.
Go ahead and read it.

SPEAKER_01 (18:10):
Oh, I get to read it?
Sure.
I guess that's the order we'rein, right?
No.
All right.
At long last, we finally have adate.
And we might have already talkedabout the date for this.
I don't know.
We can't remember anything.
But just for the sake oftalking, Star Trek Strange New
Worlds, Season 3, July 17th onthe world's worst app,

(18:30):
Paramount+.
And we ended season two on quitethe cliffhanger.
Yeah, for sure.
Now we've been sitting on forover a year.
Do you think Pike's girlfriendlives or dies?

SPEAKER_00 (18:41):
She hasn't shown up in any of the trailers.

SPEAKER_01 (18:43):
That's probably intentional.

SPEAKER_00 (18:44):
Yeah, I think it is.

SPEAKER_01 (18:45):
I want another musical episode.

SPEAKER_00 (18:47):
I don't think they're going to do that.
But I think they've got somefrom the trailer.
I have watched the trailer forthis one.
They've got some veryinteresting things going on.
I think we're going to haveanother fun season with some
creative stuff.
And it's going to be a good...

SPEAKER_01 (18:59):
Paul Wesley is returning as Captain

SPEAKER_00 (19:01):
Kirk.
Yes, yes.
All right, real quick before wego.
Strange New World Season 2introduced us to Scotty.
So if they introduce another OGcharacter, who you got?
Who you got money?
Not who do you want?
I'm not asking you who you want.

SPEAKER_01 (19:18):
Well,

SPEAKER_00 (19:18):
I'm going to say who I think and who I want.
I'm asking you who you thinkwill be.
I

SPEAKER_01 (19:21):
want McCoy, and I think they have to at some point
bring in McCoy.

SPEAKER_00 (19:26):
I do actually think McCoy, of the ones that aren't
on yet, probably makes the most

SPEAKER_01 (19:32):
sense.

SPEAKER_00 (19:33):
Because Sulu and Chekhov are both younger.

SPEAKER_01 (19:35):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (19:36):
So I don't think they would like...
Chekhov in particular may noteven be in Starfleet yet.

SPEAKER_01 (19:40):
It's got to be McCoy.

SPEAKER_00 (19:42):
Yeah, I think McCoy...
Because it's my understanding ofthe canonical lore of Star Trek
that McCoy and Kirk...
know each other before they areon the Enterprise together.
So I would like to think if weget a Kirk episode where he's
dealing with Carol Marcus beingpregnant with David, maybe McCoy
is thrown into that story.

(20:02):
And he doesn't even join theEnterprise yet, but he's just
there because let's have anotherfriendly face and a member,
Barry.

SPEAKER_01 (20:08):
I've seen two very good people, obviously the
original McCoy, and then in theKelvin universe, Carl

SPEAKER_00 (20:16):
Urban.

SPEAKER_01 (20:17):
They both did the role very well.
I'm a McCoy.
You're always like, who's yourfavorite character?
Honestly, McCoy.
He's so sassy and funny andgrouchy.
He's just everything that Ienjoy in a character.
Grumpy, kind of rude, but in agood way.
In

SPEAKER_00 (20:37):
an endearing way.
He's nice once you get to knowhim.

SPEAKER_01 (20:41):
Yeah.
You're always asking me who youthink you have the energy.
You're a McCoy energy,ultimately, Daniel.
Thank you.
Minus the medicine skills.
You're not really much of aKirk.
You're not really a Spock.

SPEAKER_00 (20:52):
You're not a Picard.
Minus the whole being a doctor.

SPEAKER_01 (20:55):
You've got that McCoy, grumpy, sarcastic energy
to you.
I should book a therapy sessionsoon.
Start the next one.
Your turn.

SPEAKER_00 (21:09):
December 2nd.
No, wait.
Sorry, I can't read.
I

SPEAKER_03 (21:13):
actually did the notes on this one right.
This is my fault.

SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
At some nebulous point in December that we have
not been made aware of yet,Percy Jackson Season 2 will be
dropping.

SPEAKER_01 (21:23):
I need to read those books so I can be like, that's
not how it was in the book.
That's how it was in the book.
I feel like they're going tolook a lot older.

SPEAKER_00 (21:30):
Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_01 (21:33):
I liked the first season of Percy Jackson.
It was a solid show.
I enjoyed it.
It was fun.
I liked it.
Was it like the best show ever?
No, but it was good.

SPEAKER_00 (21:45):
It seemed like the people who liked the book liked
the show better than the movie.
So I'm happy for them.
Whenever I see book people happyabout something, I'm like, oh,
good, good.
Because I've been a book personunhappy about things before.
Same,

SPEAKER_01 (21:58):
same.
All right, so we have, we'vealready talked about this, but
for the sake of, you know, theshows, I'm very much looking
forward to The Summer I TurnedPretty, season three, final
season, July 16th on AmazonPrime.
I don't love it that they'redoing the weekly release for
this because that means with theamount of episodes we're
getting, we're going to go intolike September.
I'm like, I see a bunch of,because this is a very youthful

(22:19):
show.
They're like, we're going to bein school when it comes, when
the last episodes drop.
And I'm like, that is rude.
And so that was rude.
Apparently, they're saying thatJenny, they changed, and I have
read the books for these.
And this is an example where Ithink the show elevated the
books in many ways.
But they're saying that JennyHan, who works on the show, but
also did the books, that she'schanged the ending.

(22:40):
If she changed it, the ending Idon't think it's gonna be she
changed who uh belly ends upwith I don't think sorry how
could anybody ship Jeremiah andbelly jelly if no Conrad Bonrad
that is the proper ship but Ithink if they do it they're
gonna pull some BS Kelly TaylorI choose me saying and no I

(23:01):
don't want that I want her andConrad to have their happy
ending give it to me please or Iwill complain next I'm

SPEAKER_00 (23:10):
just reading it twice to make sure I actually
don't screw it up.
The Morning Show, season four,September 17th.
Did you even finish season threeof The Morning Show?

SPEAKER_01 (23:19):
No.
But I would like to go back andfinish it.
My problem with The Morning Showis it's always so like...
spot one about like previousevents that we lived through
like the pandemic thing and thenlike all the January 6th stuff
they've addressed that it wasreally hard to have to relive
those moments and they do it sorealistically because they are

(23:40):
mimicking like I think they'rekind of supposed to be like sort
of like a Today Show GoodMorning America type vibe and
it's so real it's almost likebringing up like past trauma but
I do really like ReeseWitherspoon and Jennifer Aniston
so I want to try to get throughit So I included it on there.
I could see myself going finallysettling in and making myself

(24:02):
catch up.
But at the end of the day,should I force myself to watch
something?
Probably not.
Now, I didn't put this on thelist because we don't have an
official date, but we know thatMeryl Streep is coming back for
it.
One of our other shows that'soften in our conversations for
Best Thing Going is Only Murdersin the Building.
They are filming.
Meryl's supposed to be comingback.
Not Jordan, but the other guyfrom Key& Peele.

(24:24):
So be Key, right?
Michael Key.
He's going to be one of thepeople that's showing up a lot
of people think we're probablygonna get that late August like
normal but they haven'tofficially said anything So I
had to mention that.
I was like, ooh, I need toremember this.
All right, you want to say thelast thing?

SPEAKER_00 (24:40):
Well, I hope you weren't thinking, I hope you
weren't waiting for us and ourthoughts on Suits LA because
Suits LA has been canceled andwe canceled it weeks ago.
We

SPEAKER_01 (24:50):
didn't even get to like, we got the flashback
Harvey episode, but we didn'teven get to Harvey in present
day.
It was just, it just wasn'tgreat.
Like when I was watching it,though I wasn't bored, it didn't
have the hook.
It didn't have that Mike Ross asmuch, whatever you think about,
him Daniel the Mike Ross's storywas what kept suits going you
know oh

SPEAKER_00 (25:11):
I don't disagree at all it just didn't

SPEAKER_01 (25:13):
have it just wasn't special And it just felt like
they were really trying.
Just like in Just Like That,overly tries with a wild
fashion.
This show just really tried sohard to capture that magic.
And I feel like the only reasonwhy Suits got that re-emergence
in popularity was because,again, people are craving longer
seasons.

(25:33):
It was on Netflix.
There was so much that peoplecould watch.
And they wanted to cap.
I don't blame them.
They're like, you know what?
Let's capitalize on thispopularity.
We can't do a reboot or asequel.
Let's try to make something new.
different and it just failedmiserably.

SPEAKER_00 (25:47):
What Hollywood and what television needs right now
is my vampire lawyer show.

SPEAKER_01 (25:55):
Did we talk about this before?

SPEAKER_00 (25:57):
I said it one time and then never brought it up
again.
But they need my vampire lawyershow.
I feel like that already exists.
The vampires are the lawyers.

SPEAKER_03 (26:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (26:06):
But every couple decades they've got to like duck
out of town and go to anothertown and start up a new law
firm.
Because, you know, they'revampires and they can't let
people know they're...
Yeah, but a lot of the

SPEAKER_01 (26:16):
vampires, like on the Vampire Diaries, they can
kind of hypnotize people.
A

SPEAKER_00 (26:22):
whole town?
Yes, they did that.
Because in my show, they've gotthose annoying...
Unless you drank Vervain.
Because in my show, they've gotthose annoying local TV
commercials with a funny jingle.
So everybody knows who they are.

SPEAKER_01 (26:35):
There's

SPEAKER_00 (26:35):
this one.
Okay, wait a second.
Hold on.
This might break my show,actually.
Vampires are invisible tomirrors, but can they be seen on
camera?

SPEAKER_01 (26:45):
Well, Caroline in the Vampire Diaries was a news
reporter.
So, yes.
And they wear...
Technically, they can't be inthe daylight, but the Vampire
Diaries ones wear daylightrings.

SPEAKER_00 (26:55):
I'm not doing that in my vampire lawyer show.
Other than that, they

SPEAKER_01 (26:57):
can only be out at night, then.
If you go by traditional

SPEAKER_00 (27:01):
vampire lore.
They can be inside theirbuilding.

SPEAKER_01 (27:03):
And then they have to be invited into places, too.

SPEAKER_00 (27:05):
You remember that old mansion in Charleston where
we went to college?
Up on the hill?
Where we used to run up the hillto it?
I

SPEAKER_01 (27:15):
was always about

SPEAKER_00 (27:16):
trying not to throw up on this.
And the law firm took it

SPEAKER_01 (27:18):
over?
I don't remember

SPEAKER_00 (27:18):
any of this.
An old, creepy mansion on top ofa hill where the vampire lawyers
hang out.
And they've got all the windowsshut, obviously.
We'll make

SPEAKER_01 (27:28):
sure if you...
Let us take you on as a clientthat will suck them dry so you
can get your money.

SPEAKER_00 (27:36):
Exactly.
Because they can turn into batsand infiltrate stuff, they can
get evidence that they wouldn'totherwise have.
Oh,

SPEAKER_01 (27:45):
you just made me miss what we do in the shadows.

SPEAKER_00 (27:48):
And they could be on TV, too, in that show.

SPEAKER_01 (27:50):
I miss that show.

SPEAKER_00 (27:51):
Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_01 (27:55):
Okay.
Shall we move on?

SPEAKER_00 (27:59):
We watched some television.
Yeah.
Surprising as that might be forour listeners, but we did watch

SPEAKER_01 (28:06):
it.
For our podcast called We Watch

SPEAKER_00 (28:08):
TV.
We watched some television.
First up, and these are both ofthe things we're about to talk
about.
We watched the full season.
It wasn't difficult to dobecause they were fairly short,
as everything is these days.
But these ones weren't evenprobably 40-minute episodes,
most of them.
But we started out with Apple TVPlus...
Minus whatever that app iscalled.

(28:29):
The Studio.

SPEAKER_01 (28:30):
We actually got Apple TV.
No, I got a new phone.

SPEAKER_00 (28:34):
You got a new phone.
So we got three free months.
But what was funny about

SPEAKER_01 (28:38):
this show was that I guess I didn't really know what

SPEAKER_00 (28:40):
you were talking about.
I had been asking you for like amonth ahead of time.
Like, we should watch TheStudio.
And I was

SPEAKER_01 (28:44):
like, no.

SPEAKER_00 (28:45):
So I canceled Apple TV Plus Minus because...

SPEAKER_01 (28:48):
Wait, but we got it for free.
We have like three months free.

SPEAKER_00 (28:51):
Well, I canceled it because I was like, well, she's
not going to watch it.
And then like three days after Icanceled it...
Well, no, it was three daysafter the cancellation period
ended, so we actually couldn'taccess it.
You were like, hey, this show,The Studio, we should watch
that.
I

SPEAKER_01 (29:03):
was like, it has Katherine Hahn, Seth Rogen in
it, and you were like, are youserious?

SPEAKER_00 (29:10):
Well, you were.

SPEAKER_01 (29:12):
I was.
And you know what?
Forgive my scrambled eggs brainbecause we're both tired.
It's 2025.
It's exhausting, people.
So just cut me a break.
A little cut me a

SPEAKER_00 (29:24):
break.
Okay.
I'll cut you a break.
I'll remind you about the show,too.
So, the studio.
Seth Rogen, in the firstepisode, becomes the new head of
Continental Studios.
His previous boss, the...

SPEAKER_01 (29:39):
Katherine Heigl.
Or not Katherine Heigl.

UNKNOWN (29:41):
Katherine.

SPEAKER_00 (29:41):
I couldn't remember her name and I was hoping you
could come up with it.
And there we are.
Katherine Heigl.

SPEAKER_01 (29:45):
Katherine O'Hara, right?

SPEAKER_00 (29:47):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (29:48):
I just know her as Kevin's mom and Moira Rose.
That is her name, right?
Katherine O'Hara.
Now you have me

SPEAKER_00 (29:54):
confused.
Yes.
So Katherine O'Hara's characteris fired as the studio head.
Not

SPEAKER_01 (29:58):
Katherine Heigl.

SPEAKER_00 (29:59):
Seth Rogen.
She's

SPEAKER_01 (30:00):
in another.
Katherine Heigl is in a moviefrom 2007 with Seth Rogen.
Knocked Up.

SPEAKER_00 (30:06):
Catherine O'Hara.
The demographics we're talkingto are familiar with Knocked Up.
You do not need to explain thatmovie to them.
Okay.
So anyways, the studio head isfired.
Seth Rogen's character...
What's his name?
I don't know.
Seth Rogen.
He's Seth Rogen.

SPEAKER_01 (30:25):
I think his name's Matt.

SPEAKER_00 (30:27):
Matt becomes the studio head and...
He was previously like acreative executive.
Yeah, he's Matt Remick.
So he was like involved withmaking the movies.
And now as the studio head, thebasic, the gist of the show is
he has to kind of wrestle withchanging becoming the studio
head who people don't tend tolike

SPEAKER_01 (30:48):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (30:49):
versus more of the creative side and he has to
manage the business and thecreative side now the real
sticker to the show and thething that makes me like it
quite a lot

SPEAKER_01 (30:57):
i love the opening credits

SPEAKER_00 (30:59):
is the camera work it's a one camera show

SPEAKER_01 (31:02):
oh i thought you're gonna talk about how we because
every time we start it we alwaystalk about the the credits how
it looks that old timey like

SPEAKER_00 (31:08):
i mean i like that part but that's not like the
all-encompassing thing thatmakes the show unique from
everything else it's just

SPEAKER_01 (31:14):
cool

SPEAKER_00 (31:14):
it's a one camera I love that it's on an actual
studio lot, too.
Yes, I do!

SPEAKER_01 (31:40):
from Desperate Housewives.
And then they actually likeshowed it.
I was like, there's Susan'shouse.
I was like, there's Gabby'shouse.
There's Bree's house.
It was super cool.
I think I will say this, though,about your camera style comment.
Not a great show to watch,though, for the first show that
I watched with my new glasses onbecause I had a new
prescription.
And I was trying to get used toit.

(32:00):
And I was like, oh, my gosh,this is giving me a headache.
Because anytime you get a newprescription, it's just, you
know, it's hard.
Well, you don't.
But other people out there knowwhat it's like to adjust to it.
So my eyes were like, what,what, what, what?

SPEAKER_00 (32:15):
But I have a couple notes here that I wrote down.
So they took some shots atDisney and the volume.

SPEAKER_01 (32:22):
Did they make the Mandalorian joke?

SPEAKER_00 (32:24):
Yeah.
And honestly, this show took ashot at a lot of Hollywood.
They took

SPEAKER_01 (32:28):
shots at everybody.
Netflix, even though the actualCEO of Netflix shows up in an
episode.

SPEAKER_00 (32:33):
Yeah, and takes a shot at himself.

SPEAKER_01 (32:34):
They took shots at Ron Howard basically comes on
and made fun of himself in away.
They took shots at everybody.
Olivia Wilde came on and madefun of herself.
Yeah.
Because she's been known to bereally intense to work with and
difficult.
I think, I don't remember, itwas the one with Harry Styles
and Florence Pugh that shedirected or something, that

(32:55):
movie, and she was known ascausing a lot of problems.
And I feel like they almostleaned into that incident.
I felt like, personally, that'swhat they were going for on the
show.
Matt Remick, Seth Rogen'scharacter, let's just address
him real quick, can we?
Sure, yeah.
So annoying.
I don't think I've ever been soannoyed with the character.
Yeah, very annoying.
He's like that classicartsy-fartsy type, but now he

(33:17):
has himself in this position.
Where

SPEAKER_00 (33:19):
he has to make money, too.
Where he has

SPEAKER_01 (33:20):
to make money.
And I'm the type of person thatI think all movies are great.
I think there's a place for theOscar-type serious movies that
make you think, but I also thinkthere's a place for your Marvel
superhero movies, just youraction-packed movies like
Twisters, for example.
Or.
I think there's a place for yourrom-coms.

SPEAKER_00 (33:38):
Or the Kool-Aid Man movie.
Or

SPEAKER_01 (33:40):
the Kool-Aid Man.
I would have totally watchedthat.
Martin Scorsese showed up in anepisode.
He was

SPEAKER_00 (33:46):
good, too.
He was good as an actor.

SPEAKER_01 (33:48):
He was pitching a movie that was going to be about
a cult.
And what do you think?
Drink the Kool-Aid.
So Seth Rogen tries to be like,that's how we could do it.
And then they're like, you can'tdo that.
So they had to buy the rights toScorsese's movie.
But now he can never make it.
And that was supposedly going tobe the last movie ever made.
And

SPEAKER_03 (34:04):
then

SPEAKER_01 (34:05):
he got killed.
I don't know.
Adam Scott came on and playedhimself.
Speaking of Hacks, we had, Ithink we talked about Hacks in
the last episode.

SPEAKER_00 (34:24):
Not speaking of Hacks this episode, but last
episode, which for us was onlylike an hour ago.

SPEAKER_01 (34:28):
Aaron from The Boys and Anthony Starr showed up.
Was it the Golden Globes?
Yeah, the Golden Globes.
I'd like to thank SalSaperstein.
And that's the guy that workswith Seth's character, who was
also up for the job but didn'tget it.
And Adam Scott, I guess he usedto live on South couch and made
this whole like joke so theyleaned in the whole bit

SPEAKER_00 (34:50):
I have one other cameo for you that person
playing their self in my notesSarah Polly

SPEAKER_01 (34:55):
Yeah, talk about a deep dive for that.

(35:25):
the rich niece that came to livewith Aunt Hedy and had to live
on Avonlea and farm stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (35:31):
Do I recall Hedy being

SPEAKER_01 (35:33):
kind of mean?
Yeah, Hedy was mean.
Because your mom watchedAvonlea, right?
Yeah.
Do you remember Gus when Guslost his memory?
I don't

SPEAKER_00 (35:43):
remember that, no.
The only thing that sticks outto me is the other...
It wasn't Hedy.
Anna Green Gables.
No, no, no.
This was Avonlea.
It wasn't Hedy, but it was acouple that had kids, and there
was a bathtub scene.
I remember that scene.
That was traumatizing.
This is how they bathed backthen, and I'm like, this looks
awful.
You're just bathing in your ownfilth.

SPEAKER_01 (36:03):
Oh, no.
I thought you were talking aboutwhen Hedy fell in the shower or
fell in the bath or something.
I think she fell.
No.
Maybe I'm making

SPEAKER_00 (36:09):
that up.
She was like, well, the wife waslike scrubbing the guy down.
I was like, I don't need to seethis.

SPEAKER_01 (36:13):
Is it Olivia and Jasper?
Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 (36:15):
I don't

SPEAKER_01 (36:15):
know.
I don't know.
Anyway.
Anyway.
I was like, and I didn't evenhear them say Sarah.
I'm like, this looks a lot likeSarah Pauly who was on Avonlea.
Turns out it was Sarah Paulyplaying Sarah Pauly.
That scene was

SPEAKER_00 (36:33):
awful.
That episode.
I think that was the secondepisode.
That episode was so good.
It was so good.
Because they were trying to timetheir shot with the sun.
Well, when I

SPEAKER_01 (36:42):
say it was awful, I don't mean the episode was
awful.
I meant like the feelings, theemotions that made me so mad at
Matt because they didn't likethat he was on set.
And they're like, well, maybe hecan get us some more money to
use rights.
So what is it?
You can't always get what youwant.

SPEAKER_03 (36:53):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (36:55):
And then it turns out he kept ruining the scene.
And then the whole bit, it wasalmost like a Curb Your
Enthusiasm thing where theyalways circle back to the
beginning.
And they arrived on set.
And Sal was like, well, we needto park over here.
And he's like, no, it's fine.
I'm the studio head.
I can park right here.
They

SPEAKER_00 (37:10):
ended up ruining the shot because their car was in
the way.
It was great.
It was

SPEAKER_01 (37:13):
great.
Katherine Hahn plays themarketing PR person.
You always lock the camera shotsand stuff, and we both like the
way the credits are.
But one of the things that Ialways like when I watch shows
is the fashion.
They have her in each episode.
head to toe in some type ofdesigner whether it's like
adidas or like burberry like tothe point where it's not subtle

(37:36):
like she's wearing all theaccessories and it's just it's
so funny what the one theepisode that sticks out to me
was the one where they werecasting the kool-aid movie and
then they oh

SPEAKER_03 (37:47):
yeah

SPEAKER_01 (37:48):
all the let's just call it what is all the white
people working way overthoughtit they're like what's gonna be
oh this could be offensive theywere basically but being
offensive by thinking somethingcould be offensive so then they
changed the cast and one of thegirls that worked for them um
she was like okay now this isoffensive so it was just like oh
and you i i guarantee you thatconversations like that and how

(38:11):
to balance that probably do goon in Hollywood.

SPEAKER_00 (38:14):
The thing that I liked about this show so much is
because, you know, Seth has beenin Hollywood for so long, and
the guy that plays Sal, I think,is a writer on the show.
I

SPEAKER_01 (38:23):
think Sal was on MADtv.
That's how he

SPEAKER_00 (38:25):
started his own comedy.
They've been around Hollywood,and you know a lot of this comes
from real places.

SPEAKER_01 (38:33):
Well, the fact that they got the actual head of
Netflix, you confirmed

SPEAKER_00 (38:38):
this, right?
Yes, I did.
That was the head of Netflixsaid...
So what happens is they're atthe Golden Globes and Matt is
obsessed with getting ZoeKravitz to thank him.
To play herself.
To thank him if she wins.
Because then he sees a coupleNetflix shows are winning and
they are thanking the studiohead.
And he's upset because thestudio head, his name is not in

(38:59):
the credits.

SPEAKER_01 (39:00):
And they're already taking shots at Netflix.
A set of movies that are done bystudios that are going to the
big screen.
Because one of their plot pointsis they might get bought by
Amazon.
I love how they're just namedropping

SPEAKER_00 (39:11):
I know it's great yeah but so so so anyways Seth
Rogen ends up in the bathroomwith the head of Netflix and
he's like how do you get youractors and actresses to like
thank you and like you and likeyou so much that they thank you
in your speech and he's like ohyou put that in the contract you
don't leave that up to chanceand this walks out I was just

(39:34):
You know, I'm not going to glazea CEO of any company, but I have
to have respect for that becausethat was– and he also actually
was pretty good in the role hehad.
If you put me in front of moviecameras, I'm going to look like
a deer in headlights.
So it takes a certain type ofperson to be able to stand in
front of those scenes and do thelines.

SPEAKER_01 (39:56):
So here's a question.
It's got to be true.
I always thought that theyprepared their remarks.
They either memorized them orthey brought– because you do
sometimes see some of them bringup– Notepads of paper.
But Zoe Kravitz was acting likethe whole time.
She's like, oh, I'm not going towin.
She's like, oh, I know I'm goingto win.
I submitted my speech.
I know where

SPEAKER_00 (40:12):
to act.
It's going to be on theteleprompter.

SPEAKER_01 (40:13):
Is that a thing they do?
Of

SPEAKER_00 (40:15):
course.
When they're giving a speech.
Listen, everybody.
Inside baseball here.
If you're watching an award showand the actor or actress or
musician or whoever that justwon is looking right at the
camera.
They're reading offteleprompter.

SPEAKER_01 (40:31):
I'm here to accept this award on Jessica Ashley's
behalf.
I'd like to thank my friends.
There's Rachel.
The prestigious Sophie's.
If you know, you know.
I

SPEAKER_00 (40:45):
love this show.
You know, it's not up there forme in like any kind of.
conversation about Best Thinggoing.
But it was a good show.
I think

SPEAKER_01 (40:56):
it's going to win some awards.

SPEAKER_00 (40:57):
It was funny in all the ways you want it to be
funny.
Just shenanigans.
They need more seasons and ifyou have Apple TV Plus Minus go
watch the studio.
You will not be

SPEAKER_01 (41:10):
disappointed.
I almost forgot about that.
That was really nice getting tosee Mysterio Lane.

SPEAKER_00 (41:14):
They ran through Mysterio Lane and all the back
lots there.
It was just a really good time.
Sometimes you just need a showthat's a good time.
And it was.
Oh, and Bryan Cranston comes inand...

SPEAKER_01 (41:24):
What's his role?

SPEAKER_00 (41:26):
So he owns the studio as the CEO.

SPEAKER_01 (41:28):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (41:29):
Okay.

UNKNOWN (41:30):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (41:30):
Seth Rogen is the

SPEAKER_01 (41:32):
head

SPEAKER_00 (41:33):
of the studio who runs it.
So he runs all that creativepart.
And you still get

SPEAKER_01 (41:37):
Catherine O'Hara because she's a producer now.
So she still has connections.
She produced Zoe's movie.
I'd say that's probably the mostnormal character she's ever
played.
Well, except for KateMcAllister.

SPEAKER_00 (41:47):
Well, except for at the end there when she almost
hangs them out to dry.

SPEAKER_01 (41:55):
They had him coming, though.

SPEAKER_00 (41:57):
Yeah, they did.

SPEAKER_01 (41:58):
They had to pull...
They had to pretend...
Well, he wasn't dead.
They weakened and burned him.
They weakened and burned him.
He wasn't dead, but he wastotally really...
Because they had an old-school

SPEAKER_00 (42:09):
Hollywood buffet.
Old-school Hollywood buffet.

SPEAKER_01 (42:11):
Which no one

SPEAKER_00 (42:12):
actually knew what that meant.
Just go watch the show andyou'll know.
We won't spoil that.
It's too good.
It's too good.
It really is good.
I can't recommend it enough.
It's just fun.

SPEAKER_01 (42:19):
Like I said, I think it's going to win some awards.

SPEAKER_00 (42:22):
Yeah.
Well, the camera work alone isimpressive.
Like that's the technical thingthat I really enjoyed about the
show.
And the actors work dealing withthat.
I can't imagine how many shoot,how many shots they have to like
redo.

SPEAKER_01 (42:34):
How

SPEAKER_00 (42:35):
many shoots they got to redo on that thing.
Oh, and

SPEAKER_01 (42:40):
his mom, Seth Rogen's mom, Matt's mom is
played by.

SPEAKER_03 (42:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (42:45):
Yeah.
We were like, because you don'tsee her until later, but he
called her a couple times, andyou and I were like, who is that
voice?
We have heard this voice.
All

SPEAKER_00 (42:57):
right.
Well, after that, now we'regoing to switch over to Badum
Network, also known as Netflix.
Netflix.

SPEAKER_01 (43:05):
And this is where our Steve Carell reference comes
in.
Circling back, if you're stilllistening.

SPEAKER_00 (43:09):
We're circling back.
We're circling back.
And then The Office will come upbecause I can't not have
commented.
The Four Seasons, a show onNetflix.

SPEAKER_01 (43:19):
Now, we started watching this show because I was
like, okay, Tina Fey did thisshow.
And we were trying to find, wehad drained the content dry,
basically.
And we were trying to choose.
And Daniel was like, let's justdo that one.
We need something funny.
It started off funny, and I'mnot saying it was bad, but it
really did take a turn.
So basically the four seasons.

SPEAKER_00 (43:41):
By the way, people know this, but let's say it
again for this show inparticular because I think this
show really needs it.
Spoiler city.
We're going to spoil the endingof this show.
I

SPEAKER_01 (43:52):
think we said the spoiler thing on the last
podcast.

SPEAKER_00 (43:55):
We didn't say it on this one yet.

SPEAKER_01 (43:56):
We do chapter markers.

SPEAKER_00 (43:58):
In this particular show, if you haven't watched it
and you want to,

SPEAKER_01 (44:02):
Exit out.
Spoiler

SPEAKER_00 (44:04):
city ahead.
Spoiler city ahead.
There's a twist.

SPEAKER_01 (44:09):
And it's not about the four seasons as in the band.
It's about the four seasons asin spring, summer,

SPEAKER_00 (44:18):
fall, winter.
I think most people, when theyhear the four seasons, they
think of the seasons of theyear.

SPEAKER_01 (44:25):
You don't think of the

SPEAKER_00 (44:26):
four seasons?
No, not once.
Jersey Boys?
Nope.
All right.

SPEAKER_01 (44:30):
Anyway, it's about probably a group, I'd say Gen X.
Yeah.
Our age, a little older.
Friend group.
I think they mostly met incollege, three of them.
And then they have their spousesand they go on vacation like
once a season with each other.
We open up in spring.
And it's at a lake house, whichI believe is Steve Carell's
characters, Nick and Anne, hiswife.

(44:52):
I just remember her as Joshuafrom Glenn's Wife from
Superstore.
She's been in a bunch of stuff.
She does a lot of comedic work.
We're at their house.
And we've got Tina Fey, herhusband.
I think he was on SNL.
Yes, he was.
I just know.
He was MacGruber.
I think of him as his cameo onParks and Rec.
Not cameo, but his appearance onParks and Rec where he was

(45:13):
obsessed with putting theTwilight books in time capsule
and he like locked himself inleslie's office so i always
think of that because he hasjust and he has a very distinct
vocal fry yeah and then we'vegot colton coleman is it coleman
domingo yep um and then hishusband the italian guy claude

SPEAKER_00 (45:32):
claude

SPEAKER_01 (45:32):
claude

SPEAKER_00 (45:33):
you

SPEAKER_01 (45:34):
know this guy's italian which i love claude no
no

SPEAKER_00 (45:38):
no

SPEAKER_01 (45:39):
so they all meet up and they're at they're in spring
they're at the Slake house theyall get there and Nick Steve
Carell basically opens up to theguys that he's gonna leave Ann
he's he's bored he says he builther this pottery kiln and she
never she just plays a game onher iPad the whole time and
that'll that'll come up laterthe whole iPad thing and he's

(46:01):
just he's he's never he hasn'tbeen happy in years he wants
excitement and now that Lily hisdaughter's in college she thinks
it's the perfect time to blow uphis family Meanwhile, we've got
Anne who's like, I'm planningour vow renewal as a surprise
when he gets back from the bagelstore.
So she's setting up everythingand they're like, we got

SPEAKER_00 (46:19):
to tell Anne.
She kind of alluded to the factthat she is doing that
specifically because she thinksmaybe it'll get him to hold on
for a little bit.
Yeah, she did allude

SPEAKER_01 (46:27):
that there is trouble in paradise.
So he gets there.
It looks like he's going to gothrough with the vow renewal to
keep the peace.

UNKNOWN (46:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (46:35):
And then the pottery shed blows up, just like the
symbolism of their marriage.
So enter part two.
We are now in fall.
It's family weekend.

SPEAKER_03 (46:43):
Spring.

SPEAKER_01 (46:44):
Spring.
It's fall.
Summer.
Summer.
Oh, yeah.
It is summer.
Summer.
I forgot about summer.
I've always wanted to gostraight to fall.

SPEAKER_00 (46:55):
Sorry.
In summer.
You kept saying

SPEAKER_01 (46:58):
spring, spring.
I was like, I just talked aboutspring.
So I clearly jumped aheadbecause I was probably very
triggered in the summer episode.
So we go to the summer vacationspot.
And they're at some beach.
Not a nice resort.
A place that has yurts that looklike they smell like the inside
of a gym sock.
And the resort is...
powered by poop and that's howthe uh the melons are grown or

(47:23):
something yeah

SPEAKER_00 (47:24):
they're compost they're using their compost to
grow melons yes that's how allyour food is grown by the way
you

SPEAKER_01 (47:29):
have all the couples there and you see a blonde lady
because anna's blonde hair inthe waves turns around it's some
and it's not even showing thatyoung but still 30 which is way
younger 32 32 i think theactress is 32 we don't know how
old

SPEAKER_00 (47:42):
they said 32 in the show

SPEAKER_01 (47:44):
Well, dude, I've skipped a whole season, so I
don't know, dude.
I don't know.
So, yeah, Anne.
Anne's history.
He went through with thedivorce.
Now he's hooking up.
Like, wasted no time.
You know what?
I'm glad you reminded me of thisbecause now I'm getting ragey.
Like...
That's what I'm here for.
It could have only been just acouple months.

SPEAKER_00 (48:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (48:04):
At most.
And he literally said, he'slike, it's not about another
woman.
But is it?
This woman, he's known her for awhile.
She was his hygienist.
And while I definitely blame himmore for it, Jenny is not.
That's his new girlfriend.
She knew what she was gettinginto.
Older and probably the money'snice.
Recently divorced man and youchoose to put yourself in that

(48:24):
position and hop into that.
That's partly on you, girl.
Girl.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
But Nick is the main villain.

SPEAKER_00 (48:30):
Right.
And I agree with what you'resaying.
However, the friend group wasreally mean to her.

SPEAKER_01 (48:36):
I don't think I would have been nice either.
So I can't really...
I think I would have beenvery...
I'd probably been

SPEAKER_00 (48:40):
very nice.
Did you learn anything throughthe course of this show?
Because I think they were tryingto teach you something.

SPEAKER_01 (48:46):
I mean, I would have been polite.
I would have been more like fakenice to her probably.

SPEAKER_00 (48:50):
Anyways, and...

SPEAKER_01 (48:52):
You would...
I would be Team Anne.
Sorry.
Anyway, they see Anne isactually because Steve Carell in
his old age didn't change theiriCloud password.
So all his photos that he'staking, Anne still sees.
All of the photos that he'staking.
So she knows they're onvacation.
She goes over to this resort andthey find out because Claude and

(49:14):
I forget his name now.
They're like, we got to peaceout of this terrible

SPEAKER_00 (49:18):
Europe.
So they sneak into the niceresort and they find Anne.
And they see him.
And she's there.
And Anne was originally there toblow it up.
And like, ah, I see you guys areall out here.
But then she decides, no, I'mjust going to hunker down and be
sad.
Which is really sad.
Yeah.
What a bummer.
Yeah.
Well, it's one of those thingswhere you forget.
And I think this is kind of toSteve Carell's character.

(49:40):
He forgets that, you know.
when you blow something like amarriage up, it's not just you
and your wife, kids, it's yourfriends, it's your family, all
that stuff is involved with it.
And I think, you know, I'm notsaying stay in a relationship
that you're not happy in, but Idon't think he really thought it

(50:00):
doesn't get the impression thathe thought about it as much.
We later find out some morestuff from his character as

SPEAKER_01 (50:05):
well.
So now we can go to fall.

SPEAKER_00 (50:08):
Now we can go to fall.
Which

SPEAKER_01 (50:09):
comes after summer, I've been told.
And it's family weekend at thekids' school.
Tina Fey, I think her name'sKate in the show, their daughter
goes to this college, and thenNick and Anne's daughter goes to
this college.
It looks to me like they'reprobably in a New England area,
but it gave me Athens vibes,like Athens, Ohio, not Georgia.

SPEAKER_00 (50:29):
Yeah, yeah,

SPEAKER_01 (50:31):
for sure.
Reminded me of OU area, if youguys are familiar with Ohio
University, not Ohio State.
Ohio University in a very smalltown of Athens, Ohio.
Really much the streets, some ofthe shops, the restaurants they
went to, you and I were bothlike positive.
We're like, doesn't this looklike Athens?
So I know that's not where theywere, but that's what it
reminded us of.
And Anne is there as well,obviously, because she is Lily's

(50:53):
mother.
And Nick, Steve Carell'scharacter, thought it was cool
to bring Jenny along.
This is where I definitely blamehim.
Because Jenny was like, are yousure I should come to this
family thing?
He's like, oh yeah, it's fine.
It was not fine.

SPEAKER_00 (51:09):
By the way, so this is where I first noticed it.
So I'm going to go ahead andjust say it right here.
So Steve Carell's daughter is intheater classes.
She puts on a play that isbasically...
Dragging her father.

SPEAKER_01 (51:24):
Dad ruined our lives.

SPEAKER_00 (51:26):
For divorcing mom and getting with a young hussy.
Whose

SPEAKER_01 (51:29):
personality is squats.

SPEAKER_00 (51:31):
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And he gets mad at her.
Every time Steve Carell in thisshow talks to somebody in the
manner in which he's scolding orblah, blah, blah, he gets that
high-pitched voice.
The way he talks to Jenny?
Yeah.
His girlfriend?
He gets that high-pitched voiceand Michael Scott.
It's like he infantilizespeople.
He sounds exactly like MichaelScott.

SPEAKER_01 (51:50):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's

SPEAKER_00 (51:52):
your office reference.
The office people.
I

SPEAKER_01 (51:56):
feel like we would hate way more if it was played
by somebody other than SteveCarell.

SPEAKER_00 (52:01):
Yeah, he has a way to be charming even when he's
being a real POS.

SPEAKER_01 (52:06):
So they've got their...
He does have a talk with thedaughter and she's like, fine,
I'll try.
And it takes Anne stepping in tobe like, even though she hates
Jenny in the situation,obviously, she's just kind of
like, hey, Jenny's a person.
And you can tell how hard thatwas for Ann.
And we've got all this time, allthe couples are having their own
problems, even if they're notdivorced.

(52:28):
Yeah.
Which is a really good look atmarriage, honestly, because I
watched a TikTok a couple weeksago, and it said no matter who
you're married to, you– As yougrow in a marriage, you're not
the person you were when you gotmarried, especially if you got
married younger.
Everybody changes.

(52:48):
You evolve.
That's just the way everybodychanges over time.
And it's about adapting to thosechanges.
So it does address it in a funnyway, but then sometimes it's a
little

SPEAKER_00 (52:58):
real.
I think any married couplethat's been together for a
sufficient amount of time willfind some relating issues here.
And I thought those things, howthey did them and how they
displayed them and how theyresolved them or how they didn't
resolve them I think they did areally really good job on it so
like even though this was acomedy show it hit home and it

(53:22):
got deep of course when we getto winter we'll see how deep it
goes but I thought it did areally good job there and I do
have to like applaud it for thatlike it tackled those issues
head on

SPEAKER_01 (53:31):
and also like we have one character that's
stressed out about like aging

SPEAKER_00 (53:34):
yeah

SPEAKER_01 (53:35):
exactly as you know so okay anything else you want
to say about well i like thisthe scene where uh tina fey
brings her husband a sandwichbut she got the wrong one and
he's like picking off thetomatoes and i'm like and he's
trying to be nice about it yeahbecause they had been kind of
fighting and i'm like you knowthough i'm gonna say this he

(53:56):
picked it off and he didn'tcomplain i would have complained

SPEAKER_00 (53:58):
oh yeah you would

SPEAKER_01 (53:59):
have complained okay people

SPEAKER_00 (54:02):
Oh, boy.

SPEAKER_01 (54:02):
Picking off a tomato, this coming from the guy
that freaks out if you putcheese on his burger.
Give me a break, Daniel.
A tomato, it ruins everything.
It's an immediate vibe killerbecause it makes your bread
soggy, so then your bread iscompromised.
It's never as easy as justpicking it off.
And being somebody who isabsolutely repulsed by tomatoes,

(54:23):
especially on a sandwich...
I completely understand thatscene.
I remember one time my dad beinglike, just pick it off when we
were at a restaurant and wastelling me I couldn't order
another sandwich.
And I'm like, I specificallyasked for no tomatoes.
It's one of those things thatI'm very triggered when people
act so casual about it.

SPEAKER_00 (54:41):
You done?

SPEAKER_01 (54:42):
Yes, I am.

SPEAKER_00 (54:43):
So winter.

SPEAKER_01 (54:44):
Winter.
Winter hit hard, man.

SPEAKER_00 (54:46):
Winter hit hard.
The worst season.
The friend groups are allgetting together for their
vacation.
New Year's Eve.
New Year's Eve.
Skip Christmas.
They give you a little bit of atease.
But what ends up happening isSteve Carell's character has
gone.
Nick has gone with Jenny'sfriend group this year.
And all the other ones aretogether with Anne and her guy.

(55:06):
Her new beau who plays

SPEAKER_01 (55:07):
guitar.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (55:08):
Yeah, he doesn't last.
He doesn't last.

SPEAKER_01 (55:11):
I really like that scene where they all notice he
brings the guitar and they'reall like, oh, gosh.
Because we've all been therewhere somebody brings a guitar
and you're just like, please,no.

SPEAKER_00 (55:19):
And you know what?
They do try and pay that jokeoff later.
Oh, they did.
They played it off well, eventhough it was so bad and sad.
Okay.
So, I mean, there's no, like,listen.
Steve Carell struggles with thefact that Jenny's friend group
is her age, which is 32.

SPEAKER_01 (55:36):
You see him, you really see, it emphasizes how
selfish he can be.
Jenny really put an effort inwith his friends who, like you
said, and that's like herfriends aren't exactly being
nice to him either.
It's awkward and weird.
But, like, she did try.
And you can just tell that he'sjust, like, bumming out, not
trying.
He feels so old.
And what is he doing in bed whenthey have a fight?

(55:57):
Playing games.
on an iPad just like Ann didthat would make him mad.
So that's your full circlemoment there.
He did FaceTime the othersbecause they were telling this
funny story.
Every friend group has a storythat other people might listen
and be like, that's not funny.
So her friend group was like,okay.
So he ends up FaceTiming.

(56:19):
They call him and they're like,what was that guy's name that
was here?
So he's talking to them, missingthem.
So that's kind of their story.
I guess last interaction withNick.

SPEAKER_00 (56:29):
Spoiler alert.
Nick dies.

SPEAKER_01 (56:32):
And it is.
It really, I did

SPEAKER_00 (56:34):
not.
As it turned out, Nick is dead.

SPEAKER_01 (56:37):
The big dead.
For sure.

SPEAKER_00 (56:39):
Car accident.
Goner.
Goner.
I

SPEAKER_01 (56:42):
really did

SPEAKER_00 (56:42):
not see that coming.
Six feet deep.

SPEAKER_01 (56:45):
Did you see that

SPEAKER_00 (56:45):
coming?
Dirt nap.
I did not.

SPEAKER_01 (56:55):
It's not funny.

SPEAKER_00 (56:59):
I did not see that coming.

SPEAKER_01 (57:01):
Well, he's in the grocery store because he and
Jenny have a fight.

SPEAKER_00 (57:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (57:05):
And he's trying to make it up.
She's like, you only broughtgroceries for yourself.
You don't respect my gluten-freevegan friends.
So he's trying to buy products.
And he even makes a reference tothe inside joke her friend group
had.

SPEAKER_00 (57:18):
Yeah.
And that's the last thing youhear from him.

SPEAKER_01 (57:20):
And then Tina Fey's phone, she had dropped it in the
hot tub.
So she has it in a rice bag.
And suddenly, her phone's blownup.
And I was like, oh, didsomething happen?
And it's Jenny calling her, andyeah, he's dead.
And

SPEAKER_00 (57:35):
the last episode is his funeral.

SPEAKER_01 (57:37):
So we also find out during this time from Anne,
Anne's basically like, cause shestill feels very, all the
emotions, all the complications.
That's somebody she knew for,you know, was, was married and
with for over 20 years.
And she's like, yeah, he cheatedon me like a couple of times in
our marriage and I just, I justlet it go.
So we find out that this is not,this was not the first time,

(57:58):
this time he just chose to blowup his life entirely.
Yeah.
And it was really sad.
And then we've got, obviously,the awkwardness of Jenny at the
funeral.
And then they did make thefuneral funny.
It took me back to that episodeof Golden Girls with Mr.
Pfeiffer funeral home.
Like, basically, Tina Fey, Kate,and her husband, they are
fighting...

(58:19):
still about like their lack ofcommunication they've been
trying to go to therapy andshe's like you need to you need
to actually go in there and tellthis funeral guy we're not
paying for these services and helike comes back he's like i
tried but you know marty thefuneral director said that like
this is stuff we need well katewho's been known to be kind of
bossy in the whole friend group

SPEAKER_00 (58:39):
kind of

SPEAKER_01 (58:39):
yeah she like takes it over basically and they get
there and funeral guy's gone andit's just dumb sons running the
show and like basically theyneeded this to pay for

SPEAKER_00 (58:52):
they needed the stuff yeah they

SPEAKER_01 (58:53):
have like a room that's not even set up and they
bring out like folding chairsand it's not funny the urn was
like a stripper shoe becauseshe's like

SPEAKER_00 (59:02):
it was a little funny it was a little funny

SPEAKER_01 (59:04):
yeah they had to make such a dark moment that i
feel like is going to be verylike i did not expect like death

SPEAKER_00 (59:10):
it was it was um it was shocking like it Truly,
like, shocking.
Like, that was just not a twist.
We

SPEAKER_01 (59:16):
didn't believe it.

SPEAKER_00 (59:17):
Yeah, that was not a twist I saw coming.

SPEAKER_01 (59:19):
At all.
It was very sad.
And then the whole thing, like,the conflict of, like, can Jenny
speak?
Can she be at the funeral?
And Kate's character also tellsJenny, no, you can't put these
pictures in the slideshow.
So then she decides she wants totalk.
Anne's like, you're not gettingto talk.
So we have all that.
Now, Claude did speak.

(59:41):
He had a dream that Nick was abutterfly, but they actually
sweetly referenced

SPEAKER_00 (59:45):
that.
They paid that off in a way thatwas actually quite touching,
yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (59:48):
Because, yeah, they opened the cabinet and there's a
drawing that Lily had done forher dad of a butterfly.
So I thought that was reallywell done from a writing
perspective.
Funny, yet still that sad andbittersweet emotions when you
see like, oh, maybe he wasn'tfull of it.
Maybe Claude was right.
Maybe Nick is a butterfly.
Yeah.
But then we've got Ann superstill obviously upset, feeling

(01:00:09):
all the feelings.
And they think Jenny's missing,but she's really just out back.
And she shows– or did Ann seethe pictures first or something?
Yeah.
Yeah, she found the pictures.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:20):
She found the pictures in the trash can of the
computer.
And

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:23):
they really should have used the pictures because
Ann started smiling.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:27):
Because it was him happy.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:29):
And how she remembered him being happy.
And then our big– our sizzler,because we are getting a season
two of the four seasons, is thatJenny is pregnant.
So I think that's how you'regoing to keep Jenny in the
friend group since now they feellike they need to– that's a
piece of their friend thatthey're going to need to
support.
So it was not the slapstick,ha-ha, 30 Rock style funny

(01:00:50):
rom-com comedy that I thought Iwas going to get.
It's almost more in line of anobody wants this type of
comedy,

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:56):
a little serious comedy.
Yeah, I'd say that's apt.

SPEAKER_01 (01:00:58):
I'm not saying it's– Any conversation were best thing
going, but I do think it wasreally well written.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:03):
Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:05):
And we breezed through it.
Oh,

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:07):
easily.
It was like 30 to 45 minuteepisodes.
There's only eight episodes.
It went very quickly.
But

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:13):
if anybody other than Steve Carell had played
Nick, it would have just...
Not been great.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:18):
Yeah, he has that ability.
I really didn't like hischaracter.
Yeah, his character was notlikable, especially the more
information you learn about him.
And that last episode that he'sin, he's very mean.
You see

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:29):
this as a pattern in his life.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:30):
Yes, yes.
And you see maybe a little bitof hope at the end that he's
trying to turn around when heuses that.
Yeah, then he dies.
Then he's gone.
And that's kind of how lifegoes.
It was sombering.
but it

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wasn't good I felt like it was one of the shows
that's really honestly gotten agood depiction of marriage and
like the conflicts and the workand the work that you can do in
yourself like they they actuallyit's still they struck the
balance of still being funny butactually being like oh yeah like
that is a conflict for a lot ofcouples like communication
issues I

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would like to communicate to you that this
episode should be about over

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:10):
same i'm not the one that was like six feet under all
the way down gone gone gone it

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:16):
was dirt nap was the last one thank you is

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there anything

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:20):
else you want to say i think we've said it all and
with that thank you all forlistening and we will see you
next time bye