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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Wait, we had talked about something on our run,
about something that we weregoing to do.
Remember?
Oh, one of the jokes.
It was a joke from

SPEAKER_03 (00:08):
the Naked Gun, but it's no longer funny.
So this is the intro instead.

SPEAKER_00 (00:13):
No, it's not.

SPEAKER_03 (00:26):
Hey, everybody, and welcome to We Watch TV.
It is the podcast about the TVthat we watch.
I am Daniel.
She is Hope.
This is episode 114.
Now I'm going to read you theMiranda rights.

SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
It's Carrie who writes, Charlotte was an art
dealer, Miranda was a lawyer,and Samantha was the whore.

SPEAKER_03 (00:51):
Wonderful.
We have got a very excitingepisode for you guys today.
We're going to do a little bitof our normal chit-chat, cover a
couple shows, and then we've gotan interview.
A third member will join us fora little bit to talk about the
upcoming college footballseason, so we're very excited
about that.

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But before we get to that,anything exciting going on since
our last podcast episode?

SPEAKER_00 (01:17):
Well, we celebrated.
This is going to show our age.
Although we got married superyoung, our frontal lobes weren't
developed yet.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
You're not making a case for us

SPEAKER_00 (01:26):
here.
18 years of what a bliss.
Guess where we went?

SPEAKER_03 (01:34):
San Diego.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35):
No.
We went to go get coffee at myfavorite place to get coffee
now, which is not Starbucks.
Gideon's Bakehouse in DisneySprings in Walt Disney World.

SPEAKER_03 (01:48):
Oh, that's right.
I was with you

SPEAKER_00 (01:49):
on that.
Florida, yes.
You were with me.
I got pizza Literally, you werelike, I was saying, we never
start with Disney Springs, butI've had a taste of Gideon's
from our July trip, and nowconsider me a fan.
The cookies are good.
They're mid.
Oh my gosh.
You're not a cookie person.

SPEAKER_03 (02:09):
Well, I do like a good cookie, but what they're
serving there is not a cookie.
That's more like a cake, a smallcake.

SPEAKER_00 (02:17):
I like stuff like that, but that's not the draw
for me.
The draw for me is the nitropeanut butter cold brew.
It is like heaven in a cup.
This is what dreams are made of.
It's so good that I now have togo to Disney Springs every time

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I'm at Disney.
It's so good she's made

SPEAKER_03 (02:43):
it my problem.

SPEAKER_00 (02:45):
But you got pizza out of the deal.
At a different place, notGideon's.
But we had always planned, weusually started a tradition
where we've been doing just ashort little weekend going to
Disney and this year we kind ofwaffled if we wanted to do
something different I priced outsome New York City stuff New
York City is very expensive andI think I'm going to need more
time to plan that so weultimately settled down on

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Disney and I just kept talking Iwas like I cannot wait to get
that coffee from Gideon's andDaniel's like are you really
choosing to go not that you knowwe still love Disney he's like
are you are you really reallywanting to go there for the main
draw the coffee yes so Gideon'sGet you guys, ladies and
gentlemen, get somebody wholoves you so much, they'll fly

(03:27):
hundreds of miles with you to goget some coffee.
But Daniel got his pizza.
I don't know what the place is.
Is it Pizza Point?

SPEAKER_02 (03:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (03:37):
So I had my wonderful, amazing peanut butter
nitro cold brew, which is thebest thing ever.
They need a separate windowthere just for the coffee
people.

SPEAKER_03 (03:47):
Because you've got to wait like 30 minutes in line
just to get in that

SPEAKER_00 (03:50):
place.
We only had to wait 15 minutesthis time.
Oh, okay, okay.
That was a really good thing.
The last time we only waited 30minutes, which when I say only,
Daniel, people wait four hoursfor this stuff.

SPEAKER_03 (04:03):
That's too long.

SPEAKER_00 (04:04):
That's what I'm saying.
A lot of people really like thecookies.
The vibe for me is the coffee.

SPEAKER_03 (04:07):
If you had to wait four hours for that place, you'd
need a coffee to wait in line toget your coffee.

SPEAKER_00 (04:12):
I think I probably would do the virtual queue thing
return to get that coffee.
It's that good.
It is that good.
I

SPEAKER_03 (04:18):
will never do a virtual queue to get into a
restaurant.

SPEAKER_00 (04:22):
It is that good.
I do like the vibes in the wayGideon's Bakehouse looks,
though.

SPEAKER_03 (04:27):
No, I do.
I do like that.
It's cool.

SPEAKER_00 (04:29):
It's kind of like Tim Burton.
I know it's not actual TimBurton art, but this reminds me
of kind of spooky vibes.
I like all the stuff on thewalls.
I like their merch.
But that peanut butter nitrocold brew, it's the stuff of
dreams.
So you did get your pizza at adifferent place.
And that's going to be like comeour new thing.
I'm going to get my coffee.

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You're going to get your pizza.
This pizza is so big, you guys,that it doesn't fit on one
plate.
They put it like on two or threepaper plates.
It looks like five pizzas inone.
And

SPEAKER_03 (05:01):
I should have gotten two pieces, two slices.

SPEAKER_00 (05:02):
That would have been, which that would really be
like probably more like fourslices if you got two slices.
Yeah, probably.
But it's

SPEAKER_03 (05:09):
like a real thin New York style.

SPEAKER_00 (05:11):
Is this the best pizza in Disney?

SPEAKER_03 (05:16):
I guess.
I struggle to count it as Disneybecause it's Disney Springs and
it's not necessarily necessarilyDisney but yeah if I like yes

SPEAKER_00 (05:26):
it counts Disney Springs

SPEAKER_03 (05:27):
sure I guess so I don't know I'm not behind a
ticketed wall at that point inDisney Springs so I don't know
that I counted but whatever

SPEAKER_00 (05:38):
you always say different things to me because
you're like this is the bestpizza in Disney that's what you
said like yeah I mean yeah

SPEAKER_03 (05:44):
it is the best pizza in Disney if you count Disney
Springs as part of Disney whichI mean it is in the name of it
right there but at the same timeit's like you don't have to buy
there There would be people thatargue with me that because you
don't have to get tickets,that's not part of the

SPEAKER_00 (05:57):
Disney experience.
Those people are incorrect.
It's called Disney Springs.
It's in the name.
So if you took out that then inthe parks, what would still be
your pick in the parks?

SPEAKER_03 (06:08):
Probably Connections.
I haven't been inside Via Napoliin a long time, so I don't
really know if it still holdsup.
The pizza window, it's fine.
It's not all it's cracked up tobe.

SPEAKER_00 (06:22):
He says it's fine.
yet when he sees that becausethey don't advertise that it's
open on the app they just kindof open as they come and go that
he gets up and sprints andleaves me in Germany with
pretzels and drinks he's like ohmy gosh the pizza window is open
and like power walk hey wewalked right

SPEAKER_03 (06:37):
past it this this year I looked down there and it
was open with no line and Ididn't walk over there and get a
piece of pizza so

SPEAKER_00 (06:43):
all right fair enough we also went on the other
side of it we also went into thepark some we did the parks like
we were in our 20s again but

SPEAKER_03 (06:53):
We are not.

SPEAKER_00 (06:54):
But I think we pulled it off, though.
Yeah, we actually did on thisweekend trip.
We got there on a Friday, flewhome on a Sunday morning.
We did more in basically twodays at the park than we have in
a full week's time.

SPEAKER_03 (07:10):
Well, we did all four parks in two days, two
parks a day, plus DisneySprings, which is way more than
we have done on any of ourvacations

SPEAKER_00 (07:19):
in a long time.
I'm pretty sure for my birthday,we did not go to all the parks.
parks no I think we skipped it'sbeen a long time

SPEAKER_03 (07:26):
since we did when it's hard and it's been a long
time since we were out like thatmuch in the morning and then
back out again in the eveningslike normally it's either a
morning or an evening and

SPEAKER_00 (07:35):
we still weren't even in the park set like no we
used to like we were stillshowered by like 10

SPEAKER_03 (07:40):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (07:41):
we went to Animal Kingdom late that was and by
late I mean like yeah seven

SPEAKER_03 (07:45):
it's still a shame because Pandora is such a cool
place to be in when it's darkdark outside but the time of
year where there was barely juststarting to get dark but you
still couldn't see most of thelights that they had and the
park was closed at 8 so I don'tknow they need to figure
something out with that park

SPEAKER_00 (08:03):
my favorite memory other than celebrating my
anniversary or our anniversarytogether and getting my coffee
was when we were standing inline to get that pretzel in
Pandora and we watched that kidhe goes over there's like all
these it's like a cart like theytry to make it look all themed
so if you've ever seen theAvatar movies just kind of like
industrial I don't know it waslike a cart of like bear This

(08:24):
kid walks over, kicks the barrelas hard as he could, and then
goes, ow, my foot! You

SPEAKER_03 (08:32):
laughed out loud at a child.

SPEAKER_00 (08:34):
You might as well have

SPEAKER_03 (08:36):
pointed at him.

SPEAKER_00 (08:38):
Well, he walked over, no one was paying
attention to him, he just kickedit as hard as he could.
What does he expect?
That's like where kids, theytell your kids, don't touch that
oven, it's hot, and then youhave to let them learn, and they
touch it, and they're like, ow.

SPEAKER_03 (08:49):
Now he knows not to kick trash cans around.

SPEAKER_00 (08:50):
I don't even know where the parents were.
I feel like it's like the homealone thing like all kids no
parents half the time

SPEAKER_03 (08:56):
yeah i mean that's how it is a lot of time how many
times this trip did we have akid standing close to to enough
close enough to us that a cmthought that kid was ours

SPEAKER_00 (09:06):
so many times

SPEAKER_03 (09:07):
it's like no this is not mine get it

SPEAKER_00 (09:09):
away from me i'm just here to get my peanut
butter cold brew coffee andenjoy 18 years of wedded bliss
and daniel didn't have to buyany new shirts this trip so
shirt free you know you know umbut But we also got home from
our anniversary on a Sundayafternoon by the time we got
home.
And instead of being likezombies on Monday, which was our

(09:33):
actual anniversary, August 18th,we like went out and did stuff.

SPEAKER_03 (09:38):
Kind of weird.
Who are we?

SPEAKER_00 (09:40):
I don't know.
I don't know.
What did we do, Daniel?

SPEAKER_03 (09:43):
We went to see a movie.
I'd been wanting to see this onefor a while.
And I can't remember how Iconvinced you to come see

SPEAKER_00 (09:49):
it.
No, you know, I convinced myselfto come see it.
Okay.
I was like oh have you heardthat Liam Neeson and Pamela
Anderson are like an item I'mlike they're in this movie
together and you're like oh Iwant to see that movie I went in
into the movie in question isThe Naked Gun which is not
really a reboot kind of like acontinuation kind of

SPEAKER_03 (10:09):
yeah like a soft reboot like they're rebooting
but they're acknowledging thatthe previous ones

SPEAKER_00 (10:14):
existed well he's like his kid yeah which would
canonically make him born in 94but Liam Neeson is clearly older
than that yeah so there werethree original Naked Guns with
Leslie Nielsen and I have notseen any of those so I went in
completely the only thing youinformed me of you're like by
the way they might make a jokeOJ Simpson was in the first

(10:36):
movie and they made an OJSimpson joke like within five
minutes of the movie startingwhich was hilarious so that's
how it was kind of like and Iwas like oh that's the movie
you've been wanting me to seeand I'm really glad that Pamela
Anderson and Liam Neeson are anitem because they look super
cute because it also got me tosee this movie which i'm gonna

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say it right now of the moviesthat i have seen in 2025 this is
my favorite movie that i've seenso far i'm sure wicked part two
will surpass it but it was juststupid humor that we just
everybody desperately needs inthese dark times that we were
through just to go in we werethe only people in our theaters
which that was great it was justus but just to go in turn your

(11:20):
brain off and just laugh and ihave not not laughed that hard
in a movie specifically a movieat the theater and probably
since like I saw like thehangover movies

SPEAKER_03 (11:31):
it's been a long time but no it was very funny I
was glad I you I feel like youhad a little bit of a culture
shock going into it because themovies opens and it's kind of
being very it's being veryserious at the beginning of the
movie showing a bank robberyright and suddenly like they're
talking and something'shappening and a device gets in

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and you're like a like a likeasking me some questions have
been, I'm like, it's not thatkind of movie.
And I quickly don't, don't readinto it.
And that's when plot device gotpulled out of the, of the safe
deposit box.
And you were like, Oh, I seewhat's happening

SPEAKER_00 (12:04):
here.
I need to calm you up.

SPEAKER_03 (12:08):
Um, I will.
Yeah.
Like, so the moment that wetalked about at the beginning of
the show, um, the, the sex inthe city joke, my wife stood out
of her chair and like drummed onthe front, the seat in front of
her in the theater.
Like that, joke had you going sohard

SPEAKER_00 (12:24):
well it was one of those things where even though
we were the only people in thetheaters I can't promise that I
just I just wasn't expecting thesex in the city joke especially
in light of what we're going totalk about next just happening
in the way because every andit's funny because they say
Miranda writes oh I somehow inmy weird brain I'm like oh
Miranda from sex in the citylike no Carrie writes all the

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joke there was there's a snowmanin the movie it's it just goes
see it Buffy

SPEAKER_03 (12:53):
the Vampire Slayer was referenced

SPEAKER_00 (12:56):
how you need to understand my references when I
speak to

SPEAKER_03 (13:01):
you and now it's gone and the way Liam Neeson
committed he pulled a MichaelCaine from a Muppet Christmas
Carol he played it straight likea car crash but it was so funny
and so good and just such a goodtime and if you haven't seen it
go see

SPEAKER_00 (13:17):
it and the chemistry with him and Pam it's pretty
good

SPEAKER_03 (13:20):
she was excellent too her timing and everything
was really good like just againa perfect little palette
cleanser of a movie for what isout there right now it's like
they just don't make movies likethis anymore and I hope they
make 14 more

SPEAKER_00 (13:33):
same would you say it's the best movie you've seen
so far

SPEAKER_03 (13:36):
100% this year 2025 yes

SPEAKER_00 (13:39):
well I also saw another movie without you once
again I saw two movies in thespan of one week after coming
off of a Disney trip who is thisgirl who is she what is going on
nobody knows Maybe it's becauseI know that pumpkin spice vibes
are in the air.
I took my mom, who never goes tothe movies, by the way.
The last movie my mom saw wasthe Minion movie with one of my

(14:01):
nephews.
I don't know when that came out.

SPEAKER_02 (14:03):
It's been a while.

SPEAKER_00 (14:04):
The last movie she and I saw together at the
theaters, just the two of us,was the Polar Express in 2004.
The movie before that that wehad seen together was Freaky
Friday in 2003.
I'm going to reveal my age.
We saw it right before I leftfor my freshman year of college.
We loved it.
We laughed so much.
and when I refer to when I knowthat the Lindsay Lohan Jamie Lee

(14:26):
Curtis isn't the original FreakyFriday technically it's the one
with like I think Jodie Fosterand then they made another one
in the 90s but when I sayoriginal I'm referring to the
original one with Lindsay andJamie just for the people that
like to be particular out therebut Freaky Friday came out a
couple weeks ago and when we gotword that the sequel was coming

(14:46):
out I told mom that it wascoming out in August her
birthday's in August I was likeI'll have to take you so I
treated my mom She did not getinto buying as much snacks as my
nephews do.
You didn't get

SPEAKER_03 (14:57):
her like the specialty popcorn bucket

SPEAKER_00 (14:59):
or anything?
I offered everything.
I said, do you want this, this,and this?
And I was like, this is mylunch.
And what does she do when we sitdown?
Sticks her hand in my popcorn.
I said, Mom, that's my lunch.
That's why I offered to buyanother one.
She's like, I just want a tinylittle bit.
But Freakier Friday was so good.
I feel like it is one of those.
And I think Disney only spentlike$45 million to make it.

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And they've already crossed the100 mil mark.
so they have definitely madeback what they put into it and
it's one of those movies thatwas made for the fans of that
original movie the joke but itwasn't like it while it had a
lot of that nostalgia feel itdidn't rely on nostalgia I think
it can almost even in a waystand alone Jamie Lee Curtis is

(15:41):
meant to play a teenager I'venow seen her play a teenager
twice I've seen her play like amillennial teenager and now a
Gen Z teenager because I thinkshe'd be Gen Z the girl that she
was playing and And the womanknocked it out of the park.
Lindsay got to play a teenagerthis time because she was an
adult in the first one becausethere's four people that are
switching.
There's Lindsay, who plays Anna,her child, the person that she's

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marrying into their blendedfamily, Jamie Lee Curtis.
So we've got four switcheroosgoing on right now.
And it was all the cast.
And I think the girls thatplayed the actual
stepsister-to-be and Lindsay'sdaughter I think they're only
like 16 and 18 like they arevery young and those girls like

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had me convinced they wereadults so it was it was so good
just like nostalgia jokes therewere so many millennial jokes
there's a one point where itjust shows you how Gen Zers like
see us she's like it's Jamie LeeCurtis who's obviously you know
she has a teenager stuck insideof her and she's like hey in
your face boomers and the onegirl goes I'm an extra the other

(16:49):
girl goes I'm an outermillennial they just all see us
all as old so it just thedelivery of the lines was just
too good they pretty much goteverybody back from the first
one even like the teacher themain teacher came back Chad
Michael Murray was back as Jakeand he looked great and guess
who else was in this movieDaniel

SPEAKER_03 (17:11):
uh is it a Star War person

SPEAKER_00 (17:12):
it is Manny Jacinto from The Acolyte I think a lot
of people know him from The GoodPlace a show we have not seen
was in it he is the loveinterest for Lindsay Lohan's
character and he still looksgood and I got to see him dance
was it as good as that scene inthe lake in the acolyte probably
not but it was great the wholemovie was good there's other

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references if you like theparent trap there's a little
wink to the parent trap thatLindsay was in that movie there
is a wink to mean girls theyplayed the iconic song from the
first movie so that take me awaysong which I've now been playing
on repeat yep it's back again Iwas rolling up to Starbucks
after the movie, blasting it,and the barista handed me my

(17:55):
drink and I could tell shesuddenly smiled when she knew
what I was playing.
I was like, that's right.
And our theater, we had a fungroup.
Our theater was packed.
I was very surprised that thetheater was that busy.
And mom's like, where do youwant to sit?
I'm like, oh my gosh, mom, wehave assigned seats.
Because that's how long it'sbeen since she's seen a movie.
But you know where you're withthe theater and people cheer,
clap, and everything?
Everybody cheered when theyplayed that song at the end.

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Everybody was clapping at theend of the movie.
So if you like freak FreakyFriday.
Go see Freakier Friday.
It's definitely worth the costof your movie ticket.
It's that good, folks.
Go see that.
But you know what's not good?

SPEAKER_03 (18:32):
What's that?

SPEAKER_00 (18:34):
The legacy of And Just Like That.

SPEAKER_03 (18:41):
Do we really have to talk about it?
Can we not just let it go fizzleaway like it already has?
I don't have much to say aboutit.
Leave it in the dust bins ofmedia history.

SPEAKER_00 (18:50):
And just like that, season three, which turned out
to be the final season, you willnever convince me that that was
actually intended to be theseries finale, but I mean...

SPEAKER_03 (19:00):
You know what?
That episode would be terribleif it wasn't as a regular season
finale.
Nothing was resolved.
That just was not a good way toend it.
Honestly, a couple episodes agowhere Carrie's role relationship
with the basement guy DuncanDuncan resolved would have been
such a better way to end theseason let alone the series

SPEAKER_00 (19:21):
I think that scene of her walking after she broke
up with Aiden and she's dressednice and she's walking in to see
the girls and the shot pullsaway with them out to dinner and
she's looking nice and dressedgood like that would have been
like more satisfying basicallywhat happened in this finale
episode episode if you will Ithink is a metaphor for this

(19:43):
entire series it's Thanksgivingand Miranda's hosting and her
toilet overflows and there's Ithink like poop everywhere they
showed it

SPEAKER_03 (19:51):
really showed it like really showed it
graphically for

SPEAKER_00 (19:54):
some reason that's just that's basically the best
description of what this serieswas like it's I would have kept
watching more because I want Icare about these characters
because it's like a

SPEAKER_03 (20:05):
car accident you can't look away

SPEAKER_00 (20:06):
in my brain this is like I'm going to use one of
your favorite references fromStar track this this is like a
Kelvin universe it's notactually connected to the proper
timeline explain to them whatthe Kelvin universe is in a few
minutes

SPEAKER_03 (20:19):
I just say just it's an alternate timeline that was
created when Spock sent someevil Romulans back in time so we
need to what we need to figureout is who J.J.
Abrams did it and so we have tofigure out is who sent who back
in time in the and just in thesex in the city universe and
what did they change to make andjust like that see split off

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from the regular timeline

SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
and like I've always been the type of person that I
didn't even love the movies Ithink that series you remember
the series finale of Sex and theCity I think it ended perfectly
it ended with like I hated thatthe girls weren't even together
at the end of this one I thinkthat it ended perfectly so I'm
going to say the movies are onetimeline I'm going to say the In
Just Like That stuff's anothertimeline and I can see though

(21:06):
why Sarah Jessica Parker issupposedly word on the street
shopping around to get somebodyelse to buy it because I would
be mad too if a legacy characterthat I've been playing like at
this point the woman's probablybeen playing Carrie Bradshaw
almost as long as Kelsey Grammerplayed Frasier Crane yeah like
close to it I mean I think Ithink Frasier I think Kelsey
probably has it because Cheerswas what the 80s yeah so I think

(21:26):
Kelsey has the leg up on thatbut I mean I'm just pretending
that Frasier spinoff is theKelvin you know that's what
we'll do now from now on Kelvinuniverse if I don't like
something that terribleIndependence Day sequel Kelvin
universe I've

SPEAKER_03 (21:39):
wormed Star Trek into your mind and such a way
that you come up with this stuffand I don't even have to like
incept it in there anymore

SPEAKER_00 (21:45):
and I just want to say like Daniel watch this with
me because you actually and Ithink a lot of men have
preconceived notions you likedSex in the City the series

SPEAKER_02 (21:55):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (21:56):
you liked the show enough that you were like fine
I'll watch this with you how doyou feel as a I would consider
you a fan of the original seriesare you just as annoyed as I was

SPEAKER_03 (22:07):
yeah I mean most of the characters are shells of who
they were I felt like thisseason and Carrie when Aiden
when she dumped Aiden Carriekind of got a little bit of her
I could see it I could see whoshe was in the original show for
those couple episodes at the endof this season it felt like she
might be back to that a littlebit and you could even explain

(22:30):
it that she was in a funk fromBig passing away but they never
took the time to try and get tothat explanation they didn't do
it very well but all the otherexterior characters around it
are just not the people theywere in the original show a
little bit but she was reducedjust to comedy and and and all
that stuff and ball jokes likeat the end of it so it's just I

(22:54):
not has no respect for what camebefore it and I'm not sure what
they were trying to do with thisseason I certainly see why HBO
canceled it but and there was noway this was the planned and
intended

SPEAKER_00 (23:06):
no way no way

SPEAKER_03 (23:10):
all right everybody Well, it is that time of year
again.
The leaves are supposedlystarting to turn.
The weather is supposedlystarting to cool off.
And at the end of this week,college football will be back.
And so to celebrate that, webrought in a special guest this
week, John Paul.
Welcome to the podcast.
First guest ever.

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Ever.

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This is fantastic.
The first guest.
I've listened to every episodeand I can vouch.
You guys have never had a guest.

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You're like our number one supporter, number one
fan.
And you and I, we haven't met.
Wait, wait,

SPEAKER_04 (23:50):
wait.
I'm sorry.
Before you go on, I just got tosay, as long as you're talking
about number one.
Oh, gosh.

SPEAKER_00 (23:55):
Oh, gosh.

SPEAKER_04 (23:56):
We do have the top 25 college football poll that
we're going to get

SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
into, right?
Yeah, we're going to get to it.
I promise.
It's in my notes.

SPEAKER_03 (24:04):
Okay, no.

SPEAKER_00 (24:05):
I might actually be on your side for the first game.

SPEAKER_03 (24:08):
Well, I mean, I think we all know from past
episodes who Hope's favoritecollege football team is now.

SPEAKER_00 (24:13):
She said

SPEAKER_03 (24:14):
it on the air.
Insert sounder.

SPEAKER_00 (24:17):
Yeah, they got to come through for me.
Before we get into our favoriteteam, I guess, you and I, we've
known each other from Twitterfor like, I feel like almost
like a decade at this point,right?

SPEAKER_04 (24:33):
It does seem like that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (24:34):
It's been a really long time.
Daniel's not really a foul.
He's like a foul spouse.
Please

SPEAKER_03 (24:43):
explain the foul.
The foul.
Fowls, explain that because Ithink we probably have several
listeners that do not understandwhat that means.

SPEAKER_00 (24:52):
Yeah, do you want to take

SPEAKER_04 (24:54):
it off from here?
Well, yeah, I guess as thehistorian of Fowl Nation, I
should probably be the one.
So Fowls are basically thefriends and listeners of a show
called Morning Men that was onSirius XM, Channel 82, Mad Dogs
Sports Radio.
It was Evan Cohen and MikeBabchak.

(25:15):
it was just something that uhcame out there's a guy chris
russo mad dog he's a crazy crazyradio host and uh he gets
tongue-tied sometimes and he uhhe was introducing uh one of his
guests and he got confusedbetween he wanted to say hey
friend or hey pal and he justsaid hey pal and so uh from that

(25:40):
foul was born and uh 10 yearslater yeah i mean it's been at
least 10 years years

SPEAKER_00 (25:46):
it's been a while and so we would always chat
about stuff and then one time welike i don't know how it
happened i think i was livetweeting during hallmark
christmas movies and i realizedyou were a fellow hallmark
christmas movie watcher so wetalked about that i've gotten
daniel into the hallmark movies

SPEAKER_03 (26:07):
uh i don't know about into uh i enjoy watching
and mocking them

SPEAKER_00 (26:11):
you like the time travel one

SPEAKER_04 (26:13):
i was gonna say i think i actually turned you guys
onto that one one about the timetravel.
The time travel one's a goodone.
Get some sci-fi.

SPEAKER_03 (26:19):
They need more sci-fi in the Hallmark Christmas
movies.

SPEAKER_00 (26:21):
Well, your Star Trek guy showed up in the one with
the Biltmore that went back intime.

SPEAKER_03 (26:25):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
Do you have a favorite Hallmark movie?

SPEAKER_04 (26:33):
I don't have a favorite.
I mean, I enjoy Lacey Chabert,so everything that Lacey does, I
watch right away.

SPEAKER_00 (26:41):
Hers are some of the best ones.
I like hers, too.

SPEAKER_04 (26:45):
Yeah.
The Hallmark Channel is so funnybecause it's all the same
actors.
It's all the same storylines.
And yet we watch them.
There'll be a new one that comesout and it's like, okay, we got
to make sure we watch that.

SPEAKER_00 (27:00):
And they're probably getting ready to roll them out
around Halloween.
I feel like they always do.
My favorite thing about whenthey have the ones that have to
travel, maybe to go to see theirfamily or they go somewhere and
they have a tiny littlesuitcase, but then they'll have
a coat in every scene.
It could be like a drinkinggame.
Drink every time you see a coatin a scene.

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Daniel's gotten into that.
He'd

SPEAKER_04 (27:24):
be obliterated.
I love how Daniel's justprobably shaking his head
saying, what is Hope talkingabout?

SPEAKER_00 (27:31):
Daniel, you know they're making another Wiserman
and a baby.
They're making a third one ofthose.

SPEAKER_03 (27:36):
Yes, I'm aware.
Anyway,

SPEAKER_00 (27:40):
we can get to a topic that you guys are probably
more excited about.
Since we are a TV podcast, wetalk about a major TV event, and
that is college football, whichI think has technically already
started when I was looking at myphone.

SPEAKER_04 (27:53):
Yeah, the first game was yesterday.

SPEAKER_00 (27:55):
Yeah, I think it was like Big 12 teams, right?

SPEAKER_04 (27:57):
Yeah, Iowa State and Kansas.

SPEAKER_00 (27:59):
Because I was like, oh, I didn't pay attention to
this.
And Iowa State beat Kansas, andboth of them are ranked.
Iowa State won 24-21 againstKansas State.
In

SPEAKER_03 (28:10):
Dublin, Ireland.

SPEAKER_00 (28:12):
What?

SPEAKER_03 (28:12):
They played the game in Ireland.
Overseas.

SPEAKER_00 (28:16):
Where have I been?
When I have a migraine, I justforget everything, I guess.
Anyway.
August 23rd, the first game offootball.

UNKNOWN (28:24):
That is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 (28:25):
I know high school football always starts, I feel
like, the week before.
I had no idea that there wasalready a game.
And then I was like, well, theseare two teams I know.
What's going on?
And they're both ranked.
Is that something they've beendoing for a while, playing games
overseas?
I think they've

SPEAKER_03 (28:43):
been doing something in Ireland the last several
seasons, or at least over thatarea, trying to like, I don't
know, they're trying to mirrorwhat the NFL is doing to boost
the international.

SPEAKER_00 (28:52):
We're never going to get invited.
Neil Brown ruined everything.
Anyway, my other supposed numberone team, though, the Texas
Longhorns, that is your footballteam, and you guys are ranked
number one When's the last timeTexas was ranked number one that

(29:13):
you remember?

SPEAKER_04 (29:13):
Oh, that we

SPEAKER_00 (29:15):
were ranked?
Start season.

SPEAKER_04 (29:17):
Oh, we've never been ranked number one to start the
season.
I don't think.
I mean, we were ranked numberone recently.

SPEAKER_00 (29:29):
Yeah.
But you don't remember startingthe season at one?

SPEAKER_04 (29:32):
No.
They didn't.
When Vince Young won He was gonethe next year, so they weren't
ranked number one.
And then 71, I think, was aprevious championship, and I was
barely born yet.

SPEAKER_00 (29:52):
I don't know what championships are,
unfortunately.
It's a sad, sad time.

SPEAKER_04 (29:59):
Yeah, we'll probably get into it because I'm sure
you've got some stats for mebecause I've got some stats for
you.

SPEAKER_00 (30:05):
Oh, I bet you do.
For you

SPEAKER_04 (30:06):
guys as well.

SPEAKER_00 (30:07):
Well, you guys are playing.
the current national champnumber three ranked ohio state
i'm not gonna say the ohio statelike they like to be referred to
i'm just gonna call them ohiostate um i have a theory on that
and a lot of people like to saythat i'm an ohio state hater
fine maybe i am i think thatohio state is intentionally

(30:28):
ranked number i always thinkthey rank them lower and watch
them i bet they were number onelast year i'm just this is gonna
throw this theory out the windowbut i feel like they ranked ohio
state number three so they canbe like look at them clawing
their way to the top againbecause Ohio State fans are so
delusional at times sorry I knowthere's a lot of you guys
listening but they're alwayslike Ohio against the world and

(30:48):
I'm just as a WVU fan it blowsmy mind that Ohio State fans
feel this way about their teamI'm like you guys are now that
it's a 12 team playoff like OhioState's gonna have to lose like
five games I just have

SPEAKER_03 (31:00):
I just have to break in and interrupt you and let you
know that last season Ohio Statewas preseason number one

SPEAKER_00 (31:05):
okay well now they're back there since they
won the championship We've gotto give them like the comeback
kids story.
Who do you think is going to winthat game?

SPEAKER_04 (31:15):
So, I mean, it's crazy that the number one, one
ranked team is not favored inthe first game of the season.
Ohio state.
I think it's

SPEAKER_00 (31:24):
like everyone's against Ohio state.

SPEAKER_04 (31:26):
Where

SPEAKER_03 (31:26):
is that?
Is it in Columbus?
Yeah,

SPEAKER_04 (31:28):
it's in Columbus.

SPEAKER_03 (31:29):
Okay.
That's probably, that'sprobably, that's the reason why
they did that way.

SPEAKER_00 (31:34):
Or they just love Ohio state.

SPEAKER_04 (31:37):
Yeah.
I, So, August 30th, another gamein August.
It's crazy.
I mean, I want to say that Texasis going to win, but Arch
Manning, it's his first realtest.
It's going to be tough.
I think the defense is good.
The offense might struggle alittle bit, especially up there.

SPEAKER_03 (31:58):
Whatever Hope might say about Ohio State, the
horseshoe is a difficultenvironment to play

SPEAKER_00 (32:04):
in.
Yes, it is.
Now, you guys know that if OhioState struggles in that game
even if they win they're goingto want to be tossing that coach
to the I mean I've never seen acollective fan base want to fire
their coach so quickly I'm likeyou guys could have Neil Brown
like the whole thing what's hisname the coach Ryan

SPEAKER_03 (32:23):
Day

SPEAKER_00 (32:23):
Ryan Day like they were all like ready to they were
like to can him last season Ithink they did they lose to
Michigan I don't even remember

SPEAKER_02 (32:31):
yeah

SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
yeah okay they lost to Michigan heaven help us I
know that's a big rivalry and Iremember like the during the
national championship, evenafter Ohio state won, people
were like, well, we won in spiteof him.
So I feel like if Texas makes itclose, the fans are still going
to want to fire him.
And that is another thing thatblows my mind.
I'm like, I just had to sufferthrough like years of the Neil

(32:54):
Brown era and him being soawful.
Does Ohio state even bring it?
Are they bringing people back?
See, I haven't, I don't knowanything.

SPEAKER_04 (33:03):
Yeah.
I think their quarterback playedlast year.
So,

SPEAKER_00 (33:06):
okay.
I know that there, was this wasnot a few years ago it was more
like probably like a decade agoI remember when Ohio State and
Texas played and I think thismight have been in Texas because
we I think I was still incollege and Texas did beat them
when was that was that like 2005Daniel because you and I
remember watching that game withyou

SPEAKER_03 (33:26):
feel like that was Colt McCoy's season as a starter
so it's been a long time

SPEAKER_00 (33:32):
because I remember being in a hotel room with your
family who likes Ohio State andI'm like trying not to smile I
when they were losing.
I was like, ah, because I was soused to, like, they just always
win.
I try not to be a hater on OhioState.
It's the fan base that upsets mebecause they act like they never
win.
So in this case, John Paul, I'mon your side.

SPEAKER_03 (33:53):
The fan base that includes close friends and
family.

SPEAKER_04 (33:56):
Yeah, I was

SPEAKER_00 (33:57):
going to say that.
Hey, your family is not likethat as much as the friends that
are like that in general.

SPEAKER_04 (34:04):
Hope is like, I don't mind the school.
It's really just the fans of theschool that I don't like.

SPEAKER_01 (34:08):
Yeah.
It's like.

SPEAKER_03 (34:11):
Hope grew up in a border town.

SPEAKER_00 (34:13):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (34:13):
With West Virginia, Ohio.
And then, and I do get like, soI've been on both sides of this
argument.
Cause I grew up, you know, Ohiois pretty Ohio state fan, but
now I've been on seeing the WestVirginia side.
And I will say that like on theboard, like if you're in
Columbus, nobody in Ohio statefans, they don't care.
They don't think about WVU.

SPEAKER_00 (34:30):
Why would they?

SPEAKER_03 (34:31):
But for some reason, the border fans, they just, they
have this thing where they, theycannot stand that there are
other fans of other teamsaround.
And so they.
they have to make you feel badabout, about it.
It's like you were WVU fans.
We already feel bad about itenough.
It's not, we don't need yourassistance.

SPEAKER_00 (34:46):
What a way to kick us when we're down.
So I think, yeah, I agree withthat.
Cause when I've been inColumbus, like a lot of times
people are like, Oh, themountain here is like, that's
pretty, they're like a pretty,like back when we were, you
know, people, we had somethingto be respected about as like a
mid tier team before Neil Brownruined it beyond compare, but
they'd be like, Oh, like I'veseen you guys play.

(35:06):
Like, and it was no big deal,but like, we're, i grew up you
would always get like ha youguys root for wvu like and it'd
be somebody for like mariettaohio which is like two seconds
away from my house um that wouldalways like make a comment like
that so i think that's where wehave the beef on it and then i

SPEAKER_03 (35:23):
do have like a large patrons of a bar in columbus
chanting let's go mountaineersat one point

SPEAKER_00 (35:31):
yes i did at a bachelorette party i got
everybody to do that um it was idon't even remember that would
have been like 2012 i just Idon't know.
I was getting free drink spotfor us and I was like, hey guys,
you should do a Let's GoMountain.
I got everybody to do it.
And then what's that streetcalled?
High Street.
I got everybody to do it on HighStreet too.

SPEAKER_04 (35:51):
That's not an easy chant.
Let's go Mountaineers.

SPEAKER_00 (35:54):
Let's go! Then you say Mountaineers.
Here, I'll get you to do it too.
It was real weird for me becausegrowing up when I would go to
WVU games, I was always on theLet's Go side.
And then when I went to a gameas an adult, I had to sit on the
mountaineer side and I didn'tknow what I was doing.

(36:14):
So I can see, I can see that.
All right.
So back to my favorite team,apparently the Longhorns.
How did you're from, are you,you're from Pennsylvania, right?

SPEAKER_04 (36:25):
No, no.
I grew up in Texas.

SPEAKER_00 (36:28):
Okay.
I know you live in Pennsylvania.
So I was going to ask how youbecame a Longhorns fan.
Was it in your DNA?
You grew up watching them.
How did that

SPEAKER_04 (36:37):
happen?
Yes.
So, I mean, I grew up in Texas,grew up in Dallas.
So on top of being a Texas fan,I am a Cowboys fan, too.
Oh, we love them.
Two strikes against me.
But yeah, no.
So I grew up there and kind ofcollege wasn't really like a

(36:57):
thing in our family.
Then my oldest brother actuallywent to college.
He was the first one to go tocollege and he went to Texas.
And I thought that was prettycool.
So I ended up following him downthere.
My sister went as well.
So it became like the familyschool.
And yeah, so I graduated in 95from Texas with a degree in

(37:24):
engineering and then stayed inTexas.
And then we spent a couple ofyears in California with my job,
traveling, my wife, and we'vegot two kids.
And then 20, God, I keep sayingit's like 20 years, but it We
moved here in 2003.
We moved to Pennsylvania outsideof Philadelphia in 2003.
And if you would have told methen that I'd still be here, I

(37:47):
would have called you anabsolute liar.

SPEAKER_01 (37:50):
All right.

SPEAKER_04 (37:51):
The idea of living in Philadelphia, or near
Philadelphia.
I don't live in Philadelphia.
I live near it.
But the idea of that is just soforeign to anyone from like the
South.

SPEAKER_03 (38:01):
She asked that question primarily because we
tend to get on these fans ofteams that they've never been
anywhere near the place thatthey root for.
And I know you're a Cowboys fan,but I grew up in Southeast Ohio
with so many Cowboy fans aroundme.
What are you guys doing?
And I understand.

(38:21):
I grew up in Southeast Ohio, sothe two teams that you had
options to root for were Englandor Cincinnati.
I get it.
I understand.
But to go with Dallas, it's justbecause they were good at the
time.
That just always got under myskin.

SPEAKER_00 (38:34):
See, he has a valid reason then.
And I'm really glad that...
Pennsylvania didn't sway you totheir college teams because both
of those suck.
So sorry.
We have a lot of Penn Statelisteners.
Love you guys.

SPEAKER_04 (38:46):
Oh, yeah.
No, Penn State.
I think maybe like the way youfeel about Ohio State is how I
feel about Penn State now.

SPEAKER_00 (38:53):
I could see that because they're kind of the
same.
Like you're around them more.
You're

SPEAKER_03 (38:57):
really throwing insults out today,

SPEAKER_00 (38:59):
aren't you?
I

SPEAKER_03 (39:00):
am.
Your listenership is going way

SPEAKER_00 (39:02):
up.
I know.
I feel like we have most of ourpeople that listen to us are all
Penn State fans.

SPEAKER_04 (39:08):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (39:08):
You'll be proud of it.
If my team was good, I'd be ajerk about it, too, and I'd be
like, well.

SPEAKER_04 (39:15):
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, Penn State's good.
I mean, they're ranked numbertwo.

SPEAKER_03 (39:19):
Speaking of which, for our listeners, the top five
this preseason is number one isTexas.
Penn State is at number two.
Ohio State at three.
Clemson at four.
And Georgia at five.

SPEAKER_00 (39:32):
And they're really loving that Notre Dame still,
aren't they?
Always wanting to stick them upin there in the top ten.
They really want Notre Dame tobe good.

SPEAKER_03 (39:38):
Well, Notre Dame's got a Nash.
Like again, I, I have thisconversation with hope all the
time.
It's it's a, it's collegefootball so much about TV
rankings at this point.
And Notre Dame has that nationalappeal that most of the, a lot
of other teams don't have justbecause they don't just pull in
Northern Indiana viewership.

(39:59):
They also pull in an entirereligious viewer base.

SPEAKER_01 (40:03):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (40:07):
I mean around here too.
I, The Notre Dame thing isyou're talking about people
being fans of a team that theyhave no affiliation with.
Notre Dame is like the epitomeof that.
I don't have any thoughts aboutNotre Dame.
Tim Brown, who won the Heisman,he actually went to my high
school.

SPEAKER_02 (40:26):
When

SPEAKER_04 (40:27):
I was in high school, he came around and he
had a really fancy car and stuffand he was still going to
school.

SPEAKER_00 (40:35):
That's a pretty Pretty cool.
Like little fact to drop.
I guess I, well, I didn'ttechnically go to school.
I went to school with a famousperson's brother.
And my, I went to school withNick Swisher's brother, you
know, Nick Swisher, likebaseball player guy.

SPEAKER_04 (40:49):
I've heard of him.

SPEAKER_00 (40:51):
Yeah.
You've heard of him.
He's like low key famous.
Yeah.
But like, I would tell peoplethis at work.
And then one day my, one of mycoworkers was like, yeah.
And I told him that you werefriends with Nick and his famous
wife is an actress on like aNetflix show.
I'm like, we're not friendssaying that.
I was like, I would just go withhis brother.

UNKNOWN (41:08):
Oh my God.

SPEAKER_04 (41:08):
That's funny.
Yeah.
I mean, we always talk about it,but we're talking about TV shows
and actors and stuff.
I actually went to high schoolwith Luke Wilson.
Now

SPEAKER_00 (41:19):
that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 (41:20):
Yeah.
And we played football together.
We played soccer.
We ran track.
And he was like just such a coolguy.
And I never met his brother,Owen.
I

SPEAKER_00 (41:31):
like Luke better.
Well, I

SPEAKER_04 (41:34):
think his brother is probably more famous, but his
brother got kicked out of theprivate school that I went to
for a couple of years.
And it was funny because he gotkicked out of that school.
He got kicked out of the publicschool.
And I guess they sent him off tolike a military school and I
never saw him.

SPEAKER_00 (41:50):
Oh, wow.
Well, see, Luke Wilson gets, hegot to be in Legally Blonde with
my favorite actress ReeseWitherspoon.

SPEAKER_04 (41:57):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (41:57):
Automatically.
And he's in another, not aHallmark Christmas movie, but
have you seen The Family Stone?
Oh,

SPEAKER_03 (42:04):
yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (42:04):
He's in that.
He's the better brother.

SPEAKER_03 (42:06):
He's also in the most prophetic film of our time,
as it turns out, Itocracy.
Itocracy, yeah.
I don't think you've seen thatone, Hope.
I don't think I have.
It's scary.
If you watch it now, it's scarywatching that movie back and
seeing how things have turnedout.
Oh,

SPEAKER_04 (42:20):
yeah.
The President.
What was

SPEAKER_03 (42:22):
the

SPEAKER_04 (42:22):
President's name?
He was hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 (42:25):
I heard that movie.
I'll have to add that to mylist.
I can't believe you've seen amovie without me, Daniel.
It's almost like you had a lifebefore me.
That's insulting.
I

SPEAKER_03 (42:36):
don't know.
Okay.
All right.
I'm

SPEAKER_00 (42:38):
A few more college questions for us, and then we'll
go.
Okay, so the first question thatI have for you, because this is
something that I'm having tolearn as a college fan, and I
don't think my team necessarilygets to benefit from it, but
your team might.
The portal.
Do you like the portal?
I don't like the portal.
That's not my favorite.

SPEAKER_04 (42:59):
I don't mind the portal.
So in college, well, you guysknow this, but when you get your
athletic scholarship right it'sa year-to-year thing

SPEAKER_01 (43:11):
yeah

SPEAKER_04 (43:13):
so and and the the school i mean nine out of ten
times they're gonna invite youback but they always have that
option of not inviting you back

SPEAKER_01 (43:20):
yeah

SPEAKER_04 (43:21):
i think the portal kind of evens that out in that
now the player has anopportunity i

SPEAKER_00 (43:27):
see it from both ways like i like that but at the
same time as a wvu fan i lookback on some of our good teams
like from years ago and i'm likelike steve slayton from from
that 2005, 2007 era, I don'tthink he would have stuck with
WVU all four years that theportal exists.
I mean, good for him.
He could have gone and made moremoney at it.
So that's like where it annoysme as a fan, but I also, as a

(43:50):
former college athlete, Iunderstand it from that
perspective.
So I see both sides of it justin different ways.
If that makes sense, Daniel, doyou have an opinion on it?
Cause

SPEAKER_03 (44:02):
I see both points.
I think the problem that I'mhaving is like, how do you
reconcile that?
There are, are the imbalancewhen it comes to teams like
Texas, teams like Ohio State whohave all the money in the world
to tie and lure kids in.
Now you've got guys going tosmaller schools, proving

(44:23):
themselves in their freshmanyear, and then somebody like
Ohio State comes knocking andsays, come on over.
We'll give you XYZ.
Do you blame them for taking themoney?
I don't blame them for jumpingship.
I know some people who back inthe day, they got really mad
when kids would forego theirsenior year to go to the NFL.
Are

SPEAKER_00 (44:42):
you talking about your dad?

SPEAKER_03 (44:43):
I am talking about

SPEAKER_00 (44:44):
my

SPEAKER_03 (44:46):
father.
I never had a problem with thatbecause it's like, hey, I know
as an athlete, you've got yourone chance.
Your career could be overtomorrow, so make the money.
I guess for me, I feel like somesort of cap on the spending
needs to be put in place to stopthe top 10 to 15 team that have

(45:09):
all the money from just suckingup everybody and leaving nothing
for the teams that don't have asmuch money is my concern about
what is what could happeneventually

SPEAKER_01 (45:18):
yeah

SPEAKER_04 (45:19):
yeah no definitely I mean and it's not like West
Virginia is a feeder school orwhatever

SPEAKER_03 (45:25):
no exactly but we're not at the top level either

SPEAKER_04 (45:27):
yeah yeah

SPEAKER_01 (45:29):
but I mean it

SPEAKER_04 (45:31):
gives the I mean to me it gives the athletes just
more options and I think that'slike in important.
It just seems like the schoolshave always had all of the

SPEAKER_03 (45:43):
power.

SPEAKER_00 (45:43):
I totally get that.
That's definitely fair.

SPEAKER_03 (45:46):
I'm on board with the kids having power to move
around, and I'm on board withthe kids getting compensated
because especially in collegefootball, they are producing a
product.
For so long, they were notreaping any of the rewards.
You could have been a kid thatwent to a school, were there for
four years, were great, and inyour senior year game, you get

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hurt, so you can't go to the NFLand you got nothing out of that.
And I understand that you getlike a college degree and
everything, but whatever.

SPEAKER_04 (46:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (46:16):
Well, at least they've expanded the playoffs.
That's my next question.
So I think a team like, let'ssay WVU, for example, I think
we'll still have to catchlightning in a bottle to ever
have to make it.
And we will have to be, what isthe movie?
Remember the Titans?
We will be perfect.
And that's hard to do, but itdoes, the playoffs being
expanded does give more teams ashot, if you will, to show up.

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So that's my next question foryou.
Do you like the expandedplayoffs or you wish it was just
four or would you go back toBCS?

SPEAKER_04 (46:45):
Um,

SPEAKER_00 (46:46):
three parter.

SPEAKER_04 (46:47):
Yeah.
I mean, I, I was looking back atlast year's schedule and I, I
forgot how many games Texasactually played in the playoffs.
Like they beat Clemson and thenthey beat Arizona, Arizona
state, and then they lost Ohiostate and they still didn't even
get to the championship game.
It just seems like a lot ofgames.

SPEAKER_00 (47:08):
It is a lot of games.
Cut some of the early games out.
Maybe.

SPEAKER_04 (47:12):
Yeah.
I don't know.
I, to me, 12 is like too many,maybe eight, maybe, maybe make
it over like just three weeks orsomething, but

SPEAKER_00 (47:22):
that was Daniel's plan and 18 playoff.
That's what you always said.

SPEAKER_03 (47:25):
Yeah.
I can live with 12, but I thinkeight works well.
Like you said, I don't know if Iwere going to cut regular
seasons games, I'd actually gothe opposite direction and just
get rid of these college, theconference championship games.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (47:37):
Yeah, I mean, there's

SPEAKER_03 (47:40):
a lot of money tied into that.
I know.
With a playoff, it just seemslike the whole point of that,
the reason leagues startedputting those in in the first
place was to try and get theirteams another data point in
order to get into the BCS oreventually get into the playoff,
the four-team or the two-team orwhatever it was.
And now that there's a 12-teamand most of those conference
champions are getting in andeven a lot of those big

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conferences, their second-bestteam is getting in.
There's less need for that game.

SPEAKER_04 (48:07):
Yeah, yeah.
And then you got the SEC andthey end up with four teams
complaining that they didn't getfive.

SPEAKER_03 (48:13):
But I guess I also can see why you would want a
championship game because with16 team college football
conferences, you know, noteverybody's playing everybody.

UNKNOWN (48:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (48:25):
You do want to have a situation where if, if it's
two teams that didn't play eachother, but I don't know, has it
even worked out to work thatway?
Or is it most of the time beenteams that already play each
other?
Most of them, it feels like it'salmost been a rematch every time
I look at one.

SPEAKER_04 (48:40):
Yeah.
I don't know.
Last year I know we lost toGeorgia twice.
So

SPEAKER_03 (48:43):
yeah, I have to, I have to fight my urge to be my
father when it comes to talkabout football quite a lot,
because occasionally I'll hearhis voice coming out and I'll be
like, that, that does soundgood.
And I'm like, well, don't justbe opposed to change because
it's changed.
Well,

SPEAKER_00 (48:57):
considering I got the text when he was mad about,
like, Nick Bosa in a game.
I'm still mad at him for leavingOhio State early.
I'm like, what are you talkingabout?
What game?
It must have been, like, wasBosa playing the Browns?
Yeah, it was that

SPEAKER_03 (49:09):
game where Bosa was talking smack on Baker when the
Chargers were playing theBrowns.

SPEAKER_00 (49:16):
Okay.
And I'm like, why am I on thesex thread?
All right.
Now, my next question is alittle more technical.
Very technical, if you will.
So you guys, Texas and OhioState, are kicking off at my
favorite time to play a footballgame at noon.
And I think I'm in a very, veryminority on that.

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And I bet there are probablyfans that are like, why isn't
this game being played at night?
What is your favorite time to doa college football?
Do you like a noon game, a nightgame, that dumb 3.30 time slot
that WVU always gets?
What's your favorite time toplay a game, John Paul?

SPEAKER_04 (49:52):
I'm actually probably going to pick the dumb
3.30 You

SPEAKER_00 (49:57):
have a reason.

SPEAKER_04 (49:58):
Like noon to me, it feels like it's too early.
Like, I don't know.
It just feels too early to beplaying football.
And like the 7.30 or 8 o'clockgame, sometimes it just seems
like they go on forever andever.
And it's like almost midnightbefore they're over.

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And I can't stay up that lateanymore.

SPEAKER_03 (50:21):
I will remind Hope that we are very much our East
Coast bias is showing herebecause

SPEAKER_01 (50:26):
a

SPEAKER_03 (50:27):
noon East Coast game if you're somebody who wants to
watch from the West Coast oryour team is on the West Coast
but you've traveled East to playit's like 9 a.m.

SPEAKER_00 (50:36):
Well I never understood on like sitcoms like
Step by Step where they would beupset about like they're like we
can't go to church because we'regoing to miss football and I'm
like what time is your churchand then I realized oh for other
people in different time zoneslike you would be missing or
your football game for church.
So I can see that.

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I like, I feel like I like anoon game because I like to roll
out of bed, watch game day, getthe day started and get it over
with.
It's probably like my ADHDtalking.
Cause when I have to waitaround, I feel like all I'm
doing is waiting around for thegame.
And yeah, as you get, as we age,a night game is harder.
I think one year WVU was in abowl game that didn't start to
like 10 o'clock or something.

SPEAKER_04 (51:17):
Oh yeah.
Those games, those games lastyear were killing me.
Cause it was like 1130.
Yeah.
And one of the games went to adouble overtime and my, it's my
wife and my son who are here andI'm like, you know, screaming.
And my son keeps coming out ofhis room.
Like, are you okay?
Are you all right?
Is something wrong?

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No, it's just Texas giving me aheart attack, but maybe you
should move to the West coast.
Hope.

SPEAKER_00 (51:45):
Maybe I should.
I think my allergies, myallergies are always better.
Every time I've been on the Westcoast, I don't have terrible
allergies.
I come like when, when we were,I think the last time I was in,
I was in anaheim at disneylandshocker and we came back landed
in columbus my nose instantlygot stuffy i'm like are you
kidding me where it was justfree and clear for a whole

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lovely week in anaheim

SPEAKER_04 (52:08):
yeah i like i said i lived in california for two
years i never got used to thetime zone it was just weird
waking up and there'd befootball on it you know it would
be weird nine o'clock teno'clock it was just and then
like the games are over andyou're like now what do i Yeah,
now what do I do with my

SPEAKER_00 (52:29):
day?
I just have always been a noonfootball game fan, and I think
maybe it's my bias.
I don't know, but I was lookingat WVU's first three games.
They're all at weird times.
No noon.
I'm like, I thought we'd atleast get Robert Morris at noon.
I

SPEAKER_03 (52:45):
will say that I think I like noon, but I'm not
nearly as against all the othertimes as Hope is.
I do think if I'm going to go tothe football game and be in
person I want that noon timeslot because it just for me it
gives me that perfect amount oftime to get there have a nice
afternoon but then I still getout and get back home in a

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reasonable amount of time andit's not like the middle of the
night

SPEAKER_00 (53:08):
well I've seen a lot of kids complain about like kids
but I mean college kids complainabout that and they're like oh
we can't drink properly I'm likeI've been drunk no not drunk I'm
not never get drunk but I haveyou can do it at 7 30 in the
morning with your breakfast kidslike come on they're all so
responsible now what is up withthat i

SPEAKER_04 (53:27):
don't know i don't know about that i live near the
university of delaware and itell you just driving through
there like on some saturdaymornings and these kids are like
staggering home it's uh it's notmuch has changed i don't think

SPEAKER_00 (53:41):
you just have it with your breakfast you have
some water and you're good to golike get out of bed i feel like
that's one thing that the wvustudent section is always late
to the games yeah i've noticedthat because i think one year
they i was like oh don't makewest virginians try to spell
they tried to spell something onthe student section showed up so
late so it's on tv and i'm likeoh great you're making us all
look dumb that was

SPEAKER_04 (54:02):
wasn't that like stew virginia or something like
that

SPEAKER_00 (54:04):
i don't remember they totally spoofed it for like
an all-state commercial thoughrecently about like how we yeah
i'm like oh gosh guys um yeahdaniel do you have any other
football related questions thoseare pretty much my questions the
hard hitting things the

SPEAKER_04 (54:20):
hard hitting college football

SPEAKER_00 (54:22):
oh i do i guess i have one more who do you predict
is going to win the nationalchampionship with your 0-2 early
prediction?
You can say Texas, or if youdon't want to jinx yourself, you
can pick somebody else.

SPEAKER_04 (54:33):
No, I'm going to say Texas.

SPEAKER_00 (54:34):
Okay, that's a dedicated fan.

SPEAKER_04 (54:36):
Well, I think Texas has the best shot because their
schedule is really not that bad,even though looking at the top
five, they play two teams in thetop five, Georgia and Ohio
State.
But other than those two gamesin Florida, they played at
Florida, which is going to betough.
I think all the other games arepretty reasonable.

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They play OU.
They play Texas A&M.
There's three games I think thatthey could lose.
If

SPEAKER_00 (55:08):
you have to drop a game early, it's better to do it

SPEAKER_03 (55:11):
before

SPEAKER_00 (55:12):
the season.
No one's going to care about it.
You're

SPEAKER_03 (55:15):
going to get penalized a lot less for losing
at Ohio State on the first gameof the season than you would if
you lost to an Alabama inNovember or something.

SPEAKER_04 (55:24):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's like the gamesare, the tough games are on the
road.
So yeah, there's a chance wecould win one of them.
And then that's going to give uslike crazy points.
So I think Texas has the, youknow, as good a shot as anyone
else.
So I'm going to go with Texas.

SPEAKER_00 (55:39):
I love the confidence.
I'm always so scared when I dohave something to be confident
for that.
I'll jinx my team.
So I'm always like, no, I'mnever picking them ever.
Daniel, who do you think isgoing to win the national
championship?

SPEAKER_03 (55:52):
Oh, I have not been paying attention at all.

SPEAKER_00 (55:54):
Me.
either.
You have to pick one.

SPEAKER_03 (55:55):
You've got the top 25 right in front of you.

SPEAKER_00 (55:58):
West Virginia Mountaineers.

SPEAKER_03 (56:00):
There

SPEAKER_04 (56:00):
are others receiving votes, hopefully.

SPEAKER_03 (56:02):
I'm going to predict a repeat by Ohio State.

SPEAKER_00 (56:06):
Yeah, I'm going to go with the easy option and pick
Ohio State, but I do hope I amincorrect in that.

SPEAKER_04 (56:15):
Will you watch the game with Daniel's family?

SPEAKER_00 (56:18):
No.
If

SPEAKER_04 (56:19):
Ohio State is in it.

SPEAKER_00 (56:21):
Oh, in the national championship?

SPEAKER_04 (56:22):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (56:23):
No.
we won't, we, I don't thinkwe've watched it.

SPEAKER_03 (56:26):
I don't know that I'll watch it either.

SPEAKER_00 (56:28):
I only really

SPEAKER_03 (56:29):
watch.
I only really watch one Ohiostate game of a season this at
the, these days.
And it's the highest stateMichigan.
So I still tune in for that.

SPEAKER_00 (56:38):
I think the last football game we watched
together was a NFL game.
And your dad, he's a stressfulperson to watch football against
because like, they're up 10points and the other team gets

SPEAKER_03 (56:49):
a field goal and he's goes, Oh, we're going to
lose.

SPEAKER_00 (56:51):
He's like everything.
Like it'll be two seconds.
And he's like, Oh, disaster andI always felt like I was
dramatic about that and then Imet my match and your father and
he'll be like this is awful thisis just terrible it's really
like it makes me very anxiousbecause I think we did watch
didn't we I think we did watchone of the Ohio State Michigan

(57:13):
games with him where Ohio Statelike blew the doors off of him
and he was still acting stressedthe whole time I'm like what are
you doing I'm sure I'm fun towatch football with though oh I

SPEAKER_04 (57:24):
can't imagine That's what I said a long time ago.
I can't remember if it was WestVirginia or maybe it was the
Pirates.
I was like, you need a video.
We need a video of Hope as theteam grabs defeat from the Jaws.

SPEAKER_03 (57:43):
That should be our secondary channel.
I'll just set up a camera thatjust watches Hope the entire
time she watches the footballgame and then edit it down so
you guys can see the bestreactions.

SPEAKER_00 (57:53):
I'm trying to be better, guys, and be chill.
But I can't.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (58:00):
Don't change, Hope.
Don't change.

SPEAKER_00 (58:02):
We got Rich Rod coming back.
It's going to be good.
We got the band back together.
So

SPEAKER_04 (58:08):
you're in a better situation.
I mean, my wife, she hatessports.
And it's like football was onthe other day.
It was like a preseason game.
It's probably like the Eagles orsomething.
And she was like, no.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry.
she was like when does itactually start start and I was
like you know September she waslike late September I was like

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no September 7th

SPEAKER_00 (58:35):
why are you watching now

SPEAKER_04 (58:37):
yeah she was like alright well I'm not changing
dinner so we have dinner at 630every day I love my wife
obviously she's great but wehave Thanksgiving dinner at 630
now the cowboy I always playevery Thanksgiving.
I've never seen a completeCowboys game on Thanksgiving

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because I'm watching.
It's usually like the thirdquarter.
Okay, it's time to eat.
Time to eat.

SPEAKER_00 (59:08):
You guys all plop down in front of the TV with
your food and sit around thetable like civilized people.

SPEAKER_04 (59:13):
Yeah, we sit around a table and we go around.
We do what we're thankful for.

SPEAKER_00 (59:19):
That's nice.
Meanwhile, my family couldn'teven bother to turn off the TV
during the prayer atThanksgiving last year.
I was like, dad, do you want tomute

SPEAKER_01 (59:27):
that?
He's like,

SPEAKER_00 (59:28):
it'll be all right.
I think we were watching likesome kind of WV, like it was in
a basketball tournament orsomething.
And the volume was so loud.
And he's like, let's pray beforewe eat.
And I'm like, do you want tomute the TV?
He's like, it'll be all right.
That's part of

SPEAKER_04 (59:42):
the prayer.

SPEAKER_00 (59:42):
It's part of the experience.
All right.
Well, that pretty much does it.
Unless there's anything you wantto ask us about college
football.

SPEAKER_04 (59:51):
Well, there

SPEAKER_00 (59:52):
were a couple of things for me.

SPEAKER_04 (59:54):
there were a couple of things because i remember
looking up one time the uh thetexas west virginia rivalry oh
boy which you would you wouldthink there would be more of a
rivalry but we've actually onlyplayed each other 12 times and

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:11):
had they played each other before um wb joined the
big 12

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:15):
i think so right i think

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:17):
so

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:17):
i don't have that very many times though

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:19):
no no um but you guys have won six in we've won
six.
So I've got nothing on you forthat.
Even though we did win the lastgame in 2022.
That's

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:34):
not saying much.

SPEAKER_04 (01:00:36):
No.
I thought this was interesting.
The largest margin of victory byboth teams is 18 with the same
exact score, 38 to 20.
And the longest win streak istwo as well.
But I wanted to see if you couldtell me where West Virginia

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ranks in all-time wins?

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:01):
In all-time wins?

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:02):
All-time wins.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:03):
I don't know where they are in all-time wins.
I know where they are inall-time wins without a
championship.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:09):
Wouldn't we be one?

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:10):
Because they're number one on that list.
They have the most wins of anycollege football team that has
not won a championship.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:16):
I know that.
I don't know just wins ingeneral, though, but I think we
are the one that we have themost wins without a
championship.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:22):
Is it top 20?
Yeah.
Yeah, you guys should be proudof that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:26):
Yeah, too bad we had to suffer through an era of a
coach that was all shucks.
We'll have to see what happens.
We have not been ranked since, Ithink, 2018, which it used to be
WVU would always get ranked justat least once per season.
So that's quite a drought, youguys.
That's a long time.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:44):
That is, that is.
So wins, just for thecompleteness, 787 wins you guys
have, which is 15th overall.
I think that's prettyimpressive.

SPEAKER_01 (01:01:54):
That is.

SPEAKER_04 (01:01:54):
Texas is fifth with 961, but we don't need to go
there.
All right.
A couple of other things.
So you said you were justtalking about being ranked.
You guys have been ranked in theAP poll 306 weeks, which is 30th
overall.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:14):
I feel like I'm proud of this.

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:17):
I feel like you guys should be better than that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:19):
Maybe.
They always hate us though, evenwhen we're good.
So

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:22):
it's okay.
They do.
do you guys have gone been to 41bowl games which is 24th overall

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:29):
okay

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:30):
texas has been to 62

SPEAKER_01 (01:02:32):
which

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:34):
is third um you guys have been conference champions
15 times so that's that'simpressive texas has been
conference champion 31 and ofcourse you guys don't have any
national championships

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:49):
no sadly not we do in rifle

SPEAKER_04 (01:02:53):
no but you guys do rank 42nd in the number of weeks
at number one in all of collegefootball.
You guys are ranked 42nd.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:05):
I don't even think, were they ever, would they have
been number one in 2007?
Would that have been the lasttime?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:11):
No, actually, you guys have never been ranked
number one.
Apparently, there's

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:17):
a tie at 42nd.

SPEAKER_04 (01:03:19):
Oh, I see what you're saying.
It's a tie.
There's a tie at 42nd who'snever been ranked.
I can't

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:26):
believe we weren't ranked number one in the 2007
season before the wheels felloff at least once.
That's offensive to me in CAA.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:34):
Well, you guys were, I think you were two or three
going into the pit game and theteam that was up top had already
lost.
So that was like theunderstanding was beat pit.
You'll be in at least the toptwo and that should get you into
the national championship game.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:49):
If we had gone to that national championship game,
we would have beat Ohio stateand I would have been so in for
the rest of my life, so I guessit's good for society that all
this happened.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:02):
I don't know.
Daniel and I have got nothing tosay to that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:06):
You know I would have been.
I'm not going to

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:07):
argue with her.
Let's put it that way.
I'm not going to argue with her.
All right.
Well, it feels like we'renearing the end.
I do want to say thank you guysfor having me on.
Thanks for recommending therehearsal.
I watched that.
That was...
really good.
I'm glad you guys talked aboutthat on the show.

(01:04:28):
I made it through Hope, TheHunting Wives.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:33):
Okay.

SPEAKER_04 (01:04:35):
I got to tell you, Daniel, I started to watch that
with my wife.
I got so embarrassed watchingit.
I'm 53 years old.
My wife is as old as I am.
We were both blushing.
I couldn't watch it.
I told her, I said, we're notgoing to be able to finish this
or whatever and she said okayokay and then um i go on my

(01:04:57):
netflix account like look atfour days later and the hunting
wise is you know it's notshowing up on the continue
watching and turns out shewatched the end she watched all
yeah she binge watched it uhover like four days or whatever
and uh she didn't even tell meso

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:16):
daniel would just walk in and be like what are you
watching and i'm like that showyou told me about and he's like
oh

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:21):
it never fails no matter what um show she's
watching, if it's got any kindof explicit activities going on
on screen, I always just walk inwhen that stuff is on, and it's
like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:32):
Leave me alone.
It's culture.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:35):
Before

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:36):
you go, do you have a favorite, just for the sake of
the TV show podcast, do you havea favorite all-time show and a
favorite current show?
I know that's totally puttingyou on the spot.

SPEAKER_04 (01:05:46):
Yeah, so my favorite current show, we just finished,
actually, I guess season two isstill going on.
It's In the Eye of the Storm.
It's Discovery.
It's on Discovery and it's onMax.
They have all the season one andthe current season on Max.

(01:06:07):
Basically, it's a show.
It's kind of a docuseries aboutextreme weather.
It's from the perspective ofpeople who are filming it.
There's Storm Chasers.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:18):
That's right up my alley.
I was about to

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:20):
say, Hope.
That's right up your alley.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:22):
I love it.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:23):
Yeah, you should check it out.
They've got some really goodstorylines, the way that they do
it.
And the graphics.
I think Daniel would appreciatethe graphics when they show the
storms.
My favorite all-time show isprobably The Wire.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:38):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:41):
I've had that recommended to me on more than
one occasion.
Oh, you've never seen it?
I

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:46):
haven't seen The Wire, no.
Everyone says it's phenomenal.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:50):
Yeah, I mean, you guys appreciate writing and
stuff.
Yeah.
And the writing on that show isgood.
I would recommend watching.
it with subtitles.
It's sometimes difficult tounderstand, but The Wire is
definitely probably my all-timefavorite show.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:07):
All right.
And you have your own podcastthat is usually, is it live each
Saturday?
It tends to be.

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:16):
I do.
I do.
Yeah.
And then we had Hope on a coupleof weeks ago, which was great.
Everyone enjoyed that.
But yeah, it's called The ToiletBowl Club.
It's the Mike Babchick morningafter after show.
We used to do it after Babchek'sshow when it was 7 to 8, but
they've moved the slot to 6 to7, and that's a little too early

(01:07:37):
for us.
So I do it with a friend ofmine.
Her name is Angie.
She's over in Scotland, and wecall it a show.
It's more like just a hang.
It's a live show.
I have had a couple of guestson, so if you search the Toilet
Bowl Club on Spotify, you canfind a couple of episodes out

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:56):
there.
It was a fun time.
I had a lot of fun.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_04 (01:07:59):
no, it's good.
It's, it's, it's fouls.
And then it's people who, youknow, just like listening to
live shows and it's people allover the world, which is, you
know, I think incredible that,which it's technology that we're
able to do that.
Talk to people.
There's people from Iran whohave joined people from

(01:08:19):
Thailand.
There's this one guy who calledin, I forget what country it
might've been like Vietnam orsomething.
Maybe it was Thailand, butsomewhere there.
there's a war going on and wedon't even know about it.
And he's telling us about thiswar that's going on, like the
military and stuff.
It's crazy.
But yeah, no, thanks formentioning the Toilet Bowl Club.

(01:08:41):
And yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:44):
Yeah, thanks for being our first guest.
I am

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:46):
excited.
I know Daniel's very big intothe statistics and the metrics
of the show.
So if viewership goes downbecause of this,

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:55):
don't hold

SPEAKER_04 (01:08:56):
it against me.

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:57):
Daniel.
It was fine.
Now, if we have you on again, Iwant to be prepared.
What do I have to do?
What kind of pitch do I have togive you to get you to stop to
watch some Star Trek and comeback and talk about Star Trek?

SPEAKER_04 (01:09:09):
You know what?
There was one time you and Hopewere doing a show and I felt
like you were talking to mebecause you were saying if
you're going to watch Star Trek,watch this one or start with
this one.
What was that recommendation?

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:24):
So I've changed my recommendation over the past
couple of years because you tobe Next Generation was kind of
the go-to, but I have changedto, I think, given the way
modern television has gone andmodern audiences, the currently
airing Strange New Worlds iswhere I would recommend people
start because it gives you StarTrek, but it's more modern than

(01:09:45):
what Next Gen or certainly theoriginal stuff was.
And so if you can get into thatand like that, I think you can
start into Next Gen and some ofthe deeper stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:56):
I'm going to say it's a lot easier to to watch
Strange New Worlds.
It feels almost like at timesI'm watching the OC with the
love triangles and stuff thatthey've got going on.
So I can vouch for that.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10:06):
All right.
Well, Daniel, I'll commit toafter the Hallmark shows are
over to maybe trying the StarTrek.
I have seen most of the movies,the Star Trek movies.
I like the movies.

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:24):
I came into Star Trek from the movies when I was
a kid in the 90s.
I got I ended up with the VHSset somehow.
And so it just like, that was myconsumption of Star Trek, even
more so than like next gen, eventhough that was airing at the
time as just for some reason, Ireally connected to, I really
connect with the originalcharacters like Kirk Spock and
McCoy.
And so that's kind of how I cameinto Star Trek.

(01:10:46):
And then as the years went on, Ibacked my way into like the
original show and next gen deepspace nine, all that stuff.
So.

SPEAKER_04 (01:10:53):
Yeah.
I could never get the originalshow.
It's

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:57):
a tough, one for it's a tough one for the to
watch these days unless you'rein although i think hope watched
an episode and she she loved itso

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:04):
it was so campy and dumb that it made it good

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:10):
all right well um last thing for me though is um i
did want to mention residentalien i know you guys haven't
seen it i think this daniel youwould really enjoy

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:20):
it i've heard of it yeah is alec alan tudyk is is in
that right he's yeah aliens okay

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:25):
yeah yeah you should uh you should check it it's an
easy one Hope you would enjoy ittoo.
It's actually funny.
I

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:31):
like funny.

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:32):
It's right up your alley.
There's no time travel.
There obviously is aliens.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:40):
That's okay.
If there's time travel but theydo it really poorly, I actually
get really mad about it.
Time travel has to be done rightor I'm not going to be a fan of
it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:50):
We will all hear about it.
Thank you for coming on.
Thank you for having

SPEAKER_04 (01:11:56):
me.
Thank you guys.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:59):
Bye.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:59):
Bye-bye.
All right, folks.
Well, that about does it forthis week.
I got a couple announcementshere.
First of all, Emily in Paris,season five, December 18th.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:10):
I don't like that.
It's coming out in December, butI'm excited for season five.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:13):
Okay.
I also have a note from our,Hope asked me to write down
notes occasionally.
And then I forget what I tellyou to write down.
And then forgets exactly whatI've written down.
So I think I remember this one.
Bathroom versus restroom.
Oh, yeah.
conversation what do you callwhat do you call it

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:30):
okay so a bathroom is a room in your home where
there is a bathtub or even likea half bath and the toilet and
it's one room a restroom is likea public restroom like you're in
a theme park you're at the malland you go in and there's like
stalls that's a restroom at workI would still consider that the

(01:12:51):
restroom now what if you're atone of those gas stations

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:54):
what if you're at one of those gas stations that
technically has a shower got

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:00):
what

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:02):
you can go to certain truck stops in the
bathrooms have

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:05):
showers please wear shower shoes and don't touch
anything okay all

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:13):
right let us know folks what you where you draw
the line between bathroom orrestroom

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:17):
where they give you the the key the big key on the
stick i had to do that onecoming back from my bachelorette
party by the way that's a storyfor another day

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:25):
yeah so uh if you tuned in wanting to to hear more
about The Summer I TurnedVulcan, whether you're Team
Conrad or Team Spock.
We will be back to that nextweek.
We didn't have a ton to sayabout what's been going on with
either of those shows lately.
And

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:40):
what he means is The Summer I Turned Pretty and Star
Trek Strange New Worlds.
And we are Team Conrad and we'reTeam Spock with everybody.
Everyone.
I feel like everyone's intoSpock.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:53):
everybody.
Everybody's into Spock.
So anything else, Hope?

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:58):
Well, I know some people are missing our
tantalating.
Is that the right word?
Tantalating?
Is that a word?

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:04):
Titalating?

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:05):
I said tantalating.
I said titilating.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:08):
Tantalizing?

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:09):
Tantalizing.
Maybe we're just making upwords.
If anybody is missing ourwonderful commentary on Bachelor
in Paradise, we are stillwatching that train wreck of a
show.
And we will also be back withour thoughts on that later in
the future.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:24):
But until then, we'll see you next time.

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