We Watch TV Episode 124 – Stranger Things Season Five So Far! - We Watch TV

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SPEAKER_02 (00:00):
Do you know why I want to rant about about it?

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Because I saw some headlinesomebody put on the internet
that was like, Stranger Things,the greatest television show
ever.
Are you kidding me?
With that, I don't have it a bigenough, I don't have a long
enough bleep, but are youkidding me?
Q mead leading out hope'segregious burp in response to my

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commentary.
Hey everybody amount the TV thatwe want.

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This is episode 124.

SPEAKER_00 (00:46):
Why do you keep doing this?

SPEAKER_02 (00:50):
This is episode 124.
And as you can tell from Hope'sum burp there, Thanksgiving's
over.

SPEAKER_00 (00:57):
I don't normally eat.
We ate our fill like that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00):
And then it's just been that's all I've been I've
been living with that for thepast couple days.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
Oh, and you're that's how it is every day of
the year with me with you.
I'm sorry that I've been alittle burpee.
You also had we also had to eatlittle Caesars for your
birthday, which is good, but italways it always gives it gives
the burpees.
I don't I'm sorry everybody forthat you guys had to hear me
burp, but as the great buddyelse said, did you hear that?

SPEAKER_02 (01:30):
It was quite possibly the best accidental
timing we've ever had on thispodcast.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
You like a lot of sugar, don't you?

SPEAKER_02 (01:36):
Is there um sugar and syrup?

SPEAKER_00 (01:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:40):
Then yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:43):
Alright, so Daniel's not a total hater of Stranger
Things, but we'll get into thatin a little bit.
So back to back to Thanksgiving.
I have to say this.
This okay, okay, let's justrewind back in time.
One of my favorite Thanksgivingtraditions, even dating before
the turkey tribe.

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Since I was a child, I'm aboutto start burping now.
This is not the burp podcast.
I'm sure there's I bet there's apodcast out there that exists
where people just burp.
Burp like the Toots podcast.

SPEAKER_02 (02:18):
Don't don't give trademark, trademark, trademark,
don't give it away.

SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
Okay, anyway, I I can't even concentrate now.
Uh one of my longest rememberedThanksgiving traditions is
watching the Macy's ThanksgivingDay Parade.
I love seeing Tom the Turkey.
That's where you were like,who's this?
What's this stupid float?
And I was like, that's Tom theTurkey.
You put some respect on hisname.
I love watching that.

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I don't care that it's a giantcommercial.
I don't care that they are forthe most part poorly
lip-syncing.
I've always loved it.
I love it so much that when I,you know, got older and we had
to be traveling and going placesand we were turkey trotting for
Thanksgiving, that I DVR it oradd it now to my YouTube library

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because I'm one of those reallycool adults.
That so I will watch it in theevening of Thanksgiving when I
return home.
And this was the best Macy'sThanksgiving Day parade since I
was like a kid.
I feel whoever millennial, andyou were probably an elder
millennial that put this paradetogether, you deserve your

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flowers.
What did you think about it?
Do you I mean, come on, BustaRhymes on the Teenage Mutant
Ninja Turtles float with Raphaelvibing in the back time.

SPEAKER_02 (03:38):
Yeah, it was pretty that was pretty good.
Uh the Toys R Us float waspretty good.

SPEAKER_00 (03:41):
I'm sorry to say, does it get any better than Lil
John on the Toys R Us float withJeffrey being the DJ in the
background singing turned downfor what?
Then we had Shaggy singing allhis hits, it wasn't me, and then
girl, you're my angel, you're mydarling angel.
Uh Jewel showed up.

(04:02):
Yeah, yeah, and saying you wentfor me.
Like all the hits.
And you know what?
The older people still got theircool in the gang.
They were there singingcelebration.
All I can ever think of is whereRoss plays the bagpipes to
celebration on friends.
Um, but then I was like, wow,these are hit after hit after
hit.
And I've been hearing all dayabout how the parade was weird

(04:23):
this year and how it was reallybad.
And I'm like, y'all are hatersbecause this was great.
And then I realized, oh my gosh,I am now the target age
demographic.
They put the stuff in for kids,but if you notice, a lot of
times like the singers and stuffare for the you know, the

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elders.
Parents we we that is us now.
You know what?
I loved it.
I like it was just it was sogood.
I knew we were in for it whenthey o like Cynthia Arrivo um
from Wicked like opened it withlike a special song, but when
they actually like cut theribbon and started the parade,
they were playing, Where's myhusband?
I was like, why are we startingwith this song?

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Um, but I also liked K-pop DemonHunters brought down the house.
You know, that was for the kidsand probably the adults that
have also had to watch that.
Amazing, perfect performance.
And then Taylor Mommsen, CindyLouhu, performed, she scenes
with The Pretty Reckless now.
A lot of people know her asLittle J from Gossip Girl, but

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she got her start, like herfirst big role was Cindy Louhu
in The Grinch, which I can'tbelieve uh that that movie's
celebrating its 25thanniversary, which by the way, I
told my nephew, I'm like, we gotwe got a preview for it, they're
bringing it back to theaters.
And uh, he's like, Oh, we shouldgo see that.
That'd be really cool.
And I said, you know.
I was like, I saw that intheaters when it came out, and
he looked at me as if I, youknow, like grew up in black and

(05:49):
white times.

SPEAKER_02 (05:49):
I'm always amazed by the I think some of that is
because like they don't yournephews don't necessarily see
you as an older person.
I mean, who wouldn't?
Like a very young person.
It's just always amazed anytimeyou're like, yeah, I saw I saw
that in theaters, and people andyounger people are like struggle
to imagine like things happenedbefore they existed.

SPEAKER_00 (06:11):
It's just so like Because for them that's always
been like a movie.
Like, we're gonna talk about amovie that I watched with you
for your birthday, where my dadwas like, I saw that in theaters
the day, like the day it cameout.
And I'm like, Oh well, that'scool.

SPEAKER_02 (06:24):
He makes good life choices.

SPEAKER_00 (06:26):
I guess he does.
I mean hello, number one ishope.
Uh but yeah, like I really oneof my favorite trends is when I
guess not really a trend, Iguess moments in life is where
people embrace like theirchildhood and kind of the thing
that made them famous.
And she never had a badexperience on the Grinch set.
It's just she's like clearlytrying to be like a rock star.

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Like, and I think she didn'thave the greatest time on Gossip
Girl, I'm not too sure aboutthat.
But like you would ask her aboutit and she'd be like, Yeah, I
was in that movie, but like nowshe's re-recorded, which I'm
sure it was part of it is forthe 25th anniversary.
So she also was at the parade,and I I like it.
I've made you listen to thecards though, and you watched it
when you watched the parade withme, like kind of like punk punk
rock version of Where Are YouChristmas?

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I think it's good, I love it.
And there were people like, Whois this girl singing that song?
And that's like that's Cindy LouHu.
I'm trying to think, was thereanybody else in the parade that
was like amazing?
I know, okay, so Shaggy was onthe golden turkey float when he
was singing.
Let's talk about the floats.
I I can't think of any other.
We covered Jewel, we coveredLittle John, we covered Busta

(07:30):
Rhymes.

SPEAKER_02 (07:31):
I can't think of anybody.

SPEAKER_00 (07:32):
Um and you pointed out with the turtles that they
played the like OG.

SPEAKER_02 (07:36):
Yeah, they were playing the old turtles song,
not not the any of the new themesongs that they've had in the
recent years.
They were playing the 1980s, youknow, Ninja Turtles theme, which
yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 (07:45):
Like I can't really remember.

SPEAKER_02 (07:47):
It's still the most iconic one.
Like, I'm sorry.
If you're thinking NinjaTurtles, you're going teenage
mutant, ninja turtles, teenagemutant, ninja turtles, teenage
mutant, ninja turtles, turtlesin a half show.

SPEAKER_00 (08:00):
Turtle power.
There we go.
I thought it was Heroes in aHalf Show.

SPEAKER_02 (08:04):
Probably is.

SPEAKER_00 (08:05):
Maybe somebody's like.

SPEAKER_02 (08:06):
I know I struggle with lyrics, right?

SPEAKER_00 (08:08):
And your guy from Hot Ones was also randomly at
the parade, like when an apartit looked like he was like in
not an apartment, but like theledge of like a building.
And literally was it just hisdream to like get to be featured
on the parade.
I thought he was gonna likeco-host more stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (08:24):
Maybe he was doing something online or something
that we didn't see, but becausehe just was there at the
beginning and never showed up.

SPEAKER_00 (08:28):
All he did was like spout out facts, and I was like,
Yep, knew that, knew that, knewthat, because I'm a Macy's Day
Parade dork.
So that was like really ahighlight of Thanksgiving.
Let's see, the food was awesomeas usual.

SPEAKER_02 (08:39):
What was your favorite thing to eat?

SPEAKER_00 (08:41):
Um, obviously the sweet potato casserole that we
made.
My 99 years young grandma toldall the people at her assisted
living that her granddaughter'ssweet potato casserole was
amazing.
So, of course that.
Always love a good sweet potatocasserole.
And then the stuffing or thedressing, as we say.
Apparently, people, this is likea new thing.
I don't think it's a new thing,but like this technically

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stuffing is like this when youadd like giblets and you like
put it in your bird.
And like what we do down here inlike Appalachia are probably
like the south, is it's more oflike cuddressing, but I mean
everybody cuts stuffing.

SPEAKER_02 (09:16):
You know, everybody cut talks about West Virginia
like it's the South.
Um I said Appalachia first.
I know.
I don't feel like the Southright now.
It's like 20 degrees outside.
It's gonna we're not supposed tohave a snowstorm tomorrow.
We're I've always thought likeAppalachia, yeah, you're right.
I think Appalachia is a betterway to describe the region.

SPEAKER_00 (09:32):
Not Appalachia.

SPEAKER_02 (09:34):
The South, because I just don't West Virginia is not
so we're our own thing.
We are our own thing.

SPEAKER_00 (09:41):
But I would say, like, when it comes to
regionally, though, like morepeople call like eat the
dressing style, like what we do.
But that would be my obviouslymy second favorite.
Um, we had quite a bit ofleftovers.
Mom's like, take the rest ofthis, and dad's like, they're
never gonna eat all that.
We ate it in like two days.
So what what was your favoritepart of the?

(10:02):
I mean, you always like theturkey, but I mean I like the
turkey.
Turkey would be first to go for.

SPEAKER_02 (10:06):
Yeah, the turkey is like, it's whatever.
I like the turkey.
I like the sides.
But um I think the stuffing forme.
I this sounds so bizarre to say,but the pea salad.

SPEAKER_00 (10:18):
The pea salad.
The pea salad is really good.
Or is that other people call apea salad like seven layer
salad?
I don't know why my family callspea salad because peas are just
a tiny little ingredient.

SPEAKER_02 (10:28):
Well, the special ingredient.

SPEAKER_00 (10:29):
I guess pea.
I can't believe I like didn'teat that for so many years of my
life when it's like the perfect.

SPEAKER_02 (10:34):
She says so many years of her life, folks, she
didn't eat it until like 2023.

SPEAKER_00 (10:38):
No, I it was oh yeah, I was saying, I feel like
it was around like a pandemicera, but so that would have been
I don't know why being just persnickety, I guess.
Just I was just pulling it in,y'all.
You being like, no, no.
It's it's really refreshing.
Yeah.
There was this I listened tothis podcast the other day where
they had a whole debate on likesalads or not, and I'm like, I

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don't want like a plain salad,but something like that to take
away like the kind of just thehotness of the other food is
really good.

SPEAKER_02 (11:07):
Yeah, that or the cranberry sauce.
I do, I do enjoy the cranberrysauce.
I know I'm I feel like I'm in aminority lately because like
nobody else eats it.

SPEAKER_00 (11:14):
Um well mom made well the boys because they were
my sister had her thing for uhmy brother-in-law's side of the
family.
They like that the like well, atleast one of them, like the
jello style, but she made it twodifferent ways, right?
So which way do you like?
I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 (11:28):
I like the traditional cranberry sauce.

SPEAKER_00 (11:30):
And every year mom's like, Don't you want to eat this
cranberry sauce?
And like, no.

SPEAKER_02 (11:34):
Well, jello stuff is fine, but I like to take a
little bit of cranberry, get iton the fork, then get a piece of
chick a turkey or get a piece ofstuffing, and it helps break up
that dryness of the So you likea sweet and salty thing
sometimes.
I guess some of it iscranberries.
It's not like it's that thatsweet.

SPEAKER_00 (11:49):
Yeah, you might be able to get it.

SPEAKER_02 (11:50):
But the actual the actual favorite answer here for
both of us is the stuffing thatI made for out of the leftovers.
Yes.
Where you patty them up intolittle hamburger style patties
and you fry them in a little bitof olive oil on each side until
they're nice and crispy.

SPEAKER_00 (12:07):
So good.
Nothing like eating leftoverstuffing done that way, watching
little John singown for what onthe Toys R Us float to make my
life complete.
But it was a great, it was agood Thanksgiving.
Like I've said in recent years,Thanksgiving for me, like is

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elevated for when it comes tothe day.
I like Thanksgiving better thanChristmas because Christmas is
depressing because that meansit's sad.
Christmas is about the season,it's uh Christmas, the fun of
it, is about the buildup.
And Thanksgiving, you're kind oflike in that peak of buildup.
And yes, guys, I've alreadycried on December or November
30th.
I was like, oh my gosh, it's noteven December yet.

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And I'm already sad thatChristmas is almost over.
That's my toxic trait.
But if I had to like pickbetween the two of them, like I
would pick Thanksgiving overChristmas, just the day.
The season is different.
It's a season with Christmas.
Does that make sense to you?

SPEAKER_03 (13:02):
I get it.

SPEAKER_00 (13:02):
That Christmas is more the season, Thanksgiving's
been more the day.
And I feel like just you know,Thanksgiving's just about like
eating and you know, beingthankful and whatever.
Um, we also had another specialholiday over the weekend, and
that was Daniel's birthday.
Happy birthday, Daniel.

(13:23):
Um, did you have a goodbirthday?

SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (13:26):
I was gonna say, if you say it was fine when I
watched Star Trek with you andate Little Caesar's pizza when I
was already burping up a storm.
So was it good?

SPEAKER_02 (13:34):
It was good, yes, it was very good.
And I feel like I'm not gonnahave I'm not gonna defend myself
with my little Caesars pickbecause I feel like I've
discussed my pizza preferences.
On this podcast multiple times,and I think everybody listening,
if you've been listening for awhile, you know why I picked
Little Caesars over some of theother options that we have
around.

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But the pepperoni cups that theysell, I didn't have any of them.
I don't get them every time, butthey are divine and they were
very good yet again.

SPEAKER_00 (14:05):
Yeah.
I I'm glad that I remember you Iwas like, you that's what you
want, and you were like, Yeah.
I'm like, what do you want?
A cake?
And you're like, I don't want acake.
I want my pizza.
Well, like I want you to watchStar Trek.
And I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_02 (14:18):
If I had chosen a pizza place, like let's get
let's like an actual place Iwould choose would be like pies
and pines.

SPEAKER_00 (14:25):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (14:25):
But pies and pints is in Charleston.
That is an hour drive down andan hour drive back.

SPEAKER_00 (14:30):
And we were like whales on a couch, yeah, beached
all day on Friday.
I took like a three-hour nap.
Speaking of whales, we'll talkabout that later.

SPEAKER_02 (14:40):
Even even my grease ball local pizza from Gal from
the town I'm from originally,because of the holiday
festivities going on over there,would have taken forever to go
and get and come back.
Because there are two locationsof that pizza place, La Robee's
and Galapalis.
Shout out if you know you know.
One of them is just real rightacross the bridge, but that's
not the one that's good.

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I like downtown.

SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
Makes no sense to me.

SPEAKER_02 (15:02):
They're different, they're different, they're
different.
Every Hannah, if you'relistening, you know Silver
Bridge is different thandowntown.
You gotta get downtown.

SPEAKER_00 (15:09):
Are they owned by the same people?

SPEAKER_02 (15:11):
Probably.

SPEAKER_00 (15:11):
Because I always thought that all the pizza
places in the mid-Ohio Valleyarea were owned.
It's called that's what it'scalled, the pizza place.
Very creative, was owned by thesame people, and then I learned
like really only in the lastyear or so, that the people, the
one um across from the highschool has a different owner
than the one inside the mall,but they I think are related.
And I'm like, what's the storybehind this?

(15:33):
I I would really likeParkersburg people weigh in.
Fill me in, let me know.
I want to know what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 (15:38):
We want, we want to know We want to know the lore.
We want to know the pizza lore.

SPEAKER_00 (15:43):
And I've never been, I'm this is gonna make all the
Parkersburg people mad at me.
The pizza place has never beenmy favorite.
Like we they were we weretalking about at Thanksgiving,
were you already like in a foodcoma?

SPEAKER_03 (15:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:53):
And I was like, yeah, I don't like it.
It's so greasy.
And everyone was like, That'swhy you blood out with a napkin.
And I'm like, Yeah, I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 (15:59):
That's not the place I went to right next to your
high school after your reunionthat one night.

SPEAKER_00 (16:05):
Let's not talk about that.
I I was back in the turn room.

SPEAKER_02 (16:09):
Okay, maybe I need to retry that place.

SPEAKER_00 (16:12):
You've had it at the mall, too, but again, they're
two different owners,apparently, so they probably
taste different.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (16:16):
Yeah, maybe I need to retry that place because I
did not enjoy my time, but I hadhad a Okay, next.

SPEAKER_00 (16:23):
Never mind.
That was that was that was areally oh.

SPEAKER_02 (16:25):
I was hungover.

SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
You were way younger then though.

SPEAKER_02 (16:32):
All right, listen up, everybody.
Um we've talked long enoughabout Thanksgiving.
Thinking speaking of time,speaking of like long gaps in
between things.
Believe it or not, we are almostthree years into this podcast,
and we have never talked aboutour new season of Stranger
Things.

SPEAKER_00 (16:50):
Because they take forever to film this show.
I think somebody said we hadthree seasons of the summer I
turned pretty, and one with abreak in between because we
didn't get a new season lastsummer.
Then we in during all that time,we never got another season of
Stranger Things.
But finally, at long last,Stranger Things dropped their

(17:13):
episodes on Thanksgiving Eve at8 p.m., which I think was the
right move.
People were complaining aboutthat, but I'm like, that makes
it it seems like it's almost acontest these days.
And speak uh speaking of,remember, we are a spoiler
podcast.
So if you have not watched thesefirst batch of Stranger Things,
you're gonna want to look intothose handy dandy chapter

(17:34):
markers and go ahead and skip tothe next one.
You have been warned.
But another one.

SPEAKER_02 (17:39):
Go listen to the section about Star Trek, you're
gonna love it.

SPEAKER_00 (17:43):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (17:44):
Anyways, Stranger Things, season five, part one,
first four episodes.

SPEAKER_00 (17:48):
First four, and like I said, I think it was the right
decision to drop it at eighto'clock.
And honestly, I really complaina lot about these split seasons,
but for this show, and with itbeing the last, I think it makes
sense to split it.
And on it, like it just becauseit's so hard to just go
completely.
Like, you can try to getknocking on TikTok, on

(18:10):
Instagram, and then you couldopen your phone on Facebook and
there could be a headline and belike, oh, this is twist on
Stranger Things.
And then you like, unless youjust go compl and if you're you
know a working human being, likeit's gonna be really hard for
you to avoid that.
I think it makes it easier.
So this is the one time where Iwill support the split decision,
and I will actually support themwaiting to make us watch the

(18:32):
finale on New Year's Eve,because that way, you know, not
everybody is gonna have time onChristmas the night of Christmas
to just fly through it all.
So I think spreading it out thatway kind of like I I think it's
good for people that are fans ofthe show and want to watch and
don't want it ruined, and italso generates excitement.
So that's the one time where Iwill commend Netflix on that

(18:53):
choice.
How do you feel about that?
The internet is mixed.

SPEAKER_02 (18:57):
No, I'm I'm I'm uh if if every if every episode of
Stranger Things had dropped onWednesday af before
Thanksgiving, we would alreadyknow what the ending is right
now, even if we hadn't watchedall of it.
Because we did get through thesefour episodes and I would say it
didn't feel like a chore.

SPEAKER_00 (19:16):
Yeah, it didn't.

SPEAKER_02 (19:18):
But no, no, no.
I get what you're saying.
If we had if it had all dropped,if it was what eight, nine
episodes had dropped, I wouldhave felt really pressured to
watch it all.
I was really pressured to watchit all because I because you're
right.
Like I don't want to be spoiledfor what's gonna happen at the
end.
And and I but still like itenough.
Don't want to put blinders onand have to ignore the internet

(19:40):
for however many days I have toignore it until I can get
through it all.
Because uh, you know, mythoughts aside, the episodes are
longer than they've ever been.

SPEAKER_00 (19:51):
And this is like I'm not gonna agree with whatever
article you read that said itwas the best show ever, but I
would say I didn't read thatarticle, I just saw the
headlines.
Okay, nice.
Ooh, what every journalist lovesto hear.
Um I will say that it is in pulpculture phenomenon, it is like a
staple show.

(20:11):
A lot of people have been, Ithink one of the things that
hurt them was the gaps.
But news good news is they dogive you quite a significant,
like previously on StrangerThings, um, to fill you in on
what's happened.
Because I was like, I don't Ibarely remembered how season
other than the Vecna one stuff,I was like, I don't even
remember how season four ended.
Like it was so long ago that wewatched that.

(20:35):
Um, but yeah, it's it's one ofthose shows that like it's gonna
get it's gonna get ruinedsomehow because everybody's
talking about it.
Like I feel like we had it'sbeen just a whirlwind of pop
culture, wicked, strangerthings, like all my
personalities, like the holidaysare just like in an argument
with each other.

SPEAKER_02 (20:52):
Um not to mention now you saw you finally saw the
trailer for Frankenstein and youwant to watch that.
I wonder Knives Out is out.

SPEAKER_00 (21:00):
Oh my gosh, Knives Out, that's right, it is out.
Yeah, it's already out.

SPEAKER_02 (21:04):
Yeah, it's already out.

SPEAKER_00 (21:05):
It's just like content overload.

SPEAKER_02 (21:07):
And then like Fallout's coming soon, and Percy
Jackson is coming soon.
Emily in Paris.
Emily in Paris is coming soon.

SPEAKER_00 (21:12):
And it's like it's a lot.
It's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 (21:16):
Anyways, okay, we got the first four episodes of
season five of Strange StrangerThings.
I keep wanting to do it.
I wish.

SPEAKER_00 (21:27):
What'd you think?
Sorry, everybody can probablyhear my water bottle.
Um, I I I'm not gonna be likeyou and be like, but like I I I
liked it.
I thought they were goodepisodes.
I was entertained by you becausesometimes I feel like when I
watch a show, a longer episode,I'm not locked in.
I was very locked in andentertained.

(21:48):
It's a bit of a slower startthan I thought they were gonna
do.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I thought they were gonna bemore like guns blazon, and I
think that might be the backhalf.
Um they kind of had to show whateverybody was doing, which, you
know, I'm I'm glad they didthat.
I just I guess it it's like it'sslower pace, but we're having
right now, I feel like onlywhat, like a day of time has

(22:10):
passed.
And I'm like, is this gonna belike, are we gonna get like any
breaks in between, or is thisall like all these events and
then the finale is gonna be likeanother time jump?
Like, are we basically havingall the events of these next,
you know, four or five, six,seven episodes in like the span
of like a 24, 48 hour period?
I wasn't sure if they would golike that.
Um, but yeah, I thought thateach like you can tell when I am

(22:32):
the type of person that even ifI'm enjoying a show when it's a
drama, I do need to take breaks.
And we were able to watch, Ithink like I think we watched
the one Wednesday night, andthen we watched the rest on
Friday evening.
Um we didn't watch any Saturday,we were done with it.
And I was able to watch three ina row.
So that that tells you right nowthat I was entertained and

(22:54):
locked in enough if I was ableto sit on the couch and finish
it all the way through.
Cause like I said, it could beone of my favorite shows of all
time, and I still sometimes needto just take a breather, and we
really didn't need to do that.
Uh, the one like possiblespoiler, but really not that I
had seen, and like you got y'allhad me stressed about this, was
everyone's like, Steve is a jerkthis season.

(23:14):
You guys are stupid.
You are so incorrect and sowrong for so many reasons.
What does Michael Scott say?
Ryan is like a son to me.
I'm like, Steve was like, Ididn't think he was a jerk at
all.
Like, I think he was rightfullyfrustrated, which we'll get
into.
But basically, it the seasonopens.
Um, there's been, I think theysaid not quite a year, but like

(23:35):
about seven, eight months timejump since the events of season
four.
And they are essentially inquarantine.
They are locked.
The government is not lettingpeople leave Hawkins, but yet
we're all spected to go to workand to school, as one does.

SPEAKER_02 (23:49):
Yeah, I that broke me a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 (23:52):
I I you went real dark.
I was like, this is how it wouldreally be.
The government probably wouldlike lock us in there, and
you're like, I think they put usin camps.
And I was like, ah! I just I youdon't think that's probably
their next move, what they'rethinking on Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_02 (24:05):
I don't know.
I just there was something aboutlike the way I've had this vivid
image of how they ended seasonfour with them all kind of
standing on that hill lookingout over Hawkins with that
giant, like upside-down, youknow, fissure that had broken
out of the town.
And then they did it, they kindof undid all that, and like, oh,
we put the metal grates on andwe're let's see here.

(24:26):
And it's like, I guess for me.

SPEAKER_00 (24:29):
Okay, can I just say something?
Let's see here.
This we don't live in the socialmedia internet-filled world with
you.
They're gonna be able to keepthat lockdown.
A lot of people aren't gonna beposting pictures on Twitter,
Instagram, Snapchat, finding outwhat's going on.
The government could get inthere, they already have
operations in there.
I think that's fairly realistic.
That they probably had thattime, they were at the school,
and they're like, Okay, it'ssafe enough to go back to your

(24:50):
homes, but we don't know whatyou guys have been exposed to.
So you guys aren't gonna beallowed to leave, but you're you
can go to work, you can go toschool, you can carry on like
normal.
You just can't leave Hawkinsyet.
And they probably have beenmoving the goalposts like that,
and that's how I feel like theywere handling it.
I we have to think of ourselvesin the time frame, what is it,
like 1986?
Yeah, 87.
We have to think of ourselves inthat time, not 2025.

SPEAKER_02 (25:13):
But the thing is, I don't the realism isn't the
problem for me.
I don't care about the realism.
I'm watching Stranger Things.

SPEAKER_00 (25:20):
You almost said Stranger Worlds.
I'm gonna do it every singletime.

SPEAKER_02 (25:23):
I'm not here for the realism because that's not what
this show is about.
What the problem is for me, Ithink, is that like it's just
they basically what they did wasthey reset it so they could
start this season the same wayevery season has started.
Oh, we're just going to school.
And like Yeah, but you don'tthink that they would look what

(25:45):
happened with like the pandemic.
The Wheeler parents are justdoing their thing.
They don't know any better aboutwhat's going on.
They don't they have no ideathat their children have been
fighting an interdimensional warfor the last five years or some
shit.
And it's like, I just it's justso like they they and I know
they um they almost immediatelypivoted out of it.
So I get it, I get it, I get it.

(26:05):
But it's just like every singleseason of Stranger Things has
started the exact same way, andit's like we you we you and I
even had a conversation earlierwhere they were talking about
something and they were likethat just doesn't seem
realistic.
The characters, I can't rememberwho it was.
I think it was Robin and andmaybe um what's her name?

SPEAKER_00 (26:24):
Nancy.

SPEAKER_02 (26:24):
Not Nancy, the the I can't remember the actress's
name, I can't remember thecharacter's name.
Uh Will's mother.

SPEAKER_00 (26:31):
Joyce.

SPEAKER_02 (26:32):
Joyce.
And and somebody was like, Well,that's not very realistic.
And you paused it and was like,how can she possibly say this
isn't realistic considering thethings they've gone through in
the past five seasons?
And I agree with you.
It's like just it's just sobroke me that they had to do it.
They had to even I I understandand I understand that like
within the school.
Things are clearly differentthis season, but they were going

(26:54):
to school still, like withinthe.

SPEAKER_00 (26:55):
You don't think they'd still okay.
I know in the pandemic they hadin the early days, they had
people like virtual school, butyou don't think they'd be like,
like, like hell's freezing over.
You have to go to work.
You don't think they'd be likethat, because I do.
I think that that people andnobody and a lot of people would
are probably burying their headin the sand.
They don't want to wake their tobe aware of what's going on.

(27:16):
A lot of people probably wouldbehave like Ted Wheeler.
The man just wants his bacon andto get his house guest out of
his home and then work to workon his golf swing blissfully
unaware.
And I think that's the way a lotof people would deal with a
situation like this because theywouldn't want to accept reality
or facts.
And I think that people would beexpected to just the world's

(27:36):
ending, carry on, go to school,go to work.
Like, I I think that's like Ithink I don't know what I was
talking about that's notrealistic, but in terms of this,
like, yeah, I think that'sunless they went super dark like
what you were saying, I I thinkthat's how this would be
handled, especially back inthose days.

SPEAKER_02 (27:50):
Okay.
That just that just broke it,that just broke a little bit of
my not real not realism, but itbroke me out.
That that kind of restartbecause I love because like I
kind of liked the end of seasonfour specifically because I was
like, oh, they things have nowchanged to the point where this
is way more public than it hasever been before.
They can't go back to the sameold, same old, and then here we

(28:11):
are.

SPEAKER_00 (28:11):
But they did it.
It's not the same old same.

SPEAKER_02 (28:13):
It isn't, but it is at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 (28:15):
I will argue with you this.
It's not the same old, same old.
They are clearly, and you'reonly seeing it a lot of it from
the perspective of our coregroup.

SPEAKER_02 (28:22):
I understand that.

SPEAKER_00 (28:23):
Ted Wheeler, I feel like, is almost a representation
of probably how most people arejust going about their days.
Like he just wants his bacon.
That's all he wants.
And then he doesn't get anybecause he has all these house
guests.
And I think that I still I'mthinking the internet's wrong
about the Karen Wheeler theoriesthat she's Henry Vecna's sister.

SPEAKER_02 (28:42):
You must be like way more online about all this stuff
than I've never heard that.
I've but then again, I'm youhave heard it.
That's because you're well, I'veheard it from you, but then
again, I'm not online lookingfor spoilers from Stranger
Things because I know.

SPEAKER_00 (28:55):
I just I mean I'm chronically online and into the
content.
But taking that out aside, um, Ifeel like again, like you were
entertained, you would havewanted to stop too if you were
in entertainment with the othersix.

SPEAKER_02 (29:07):
Listen, sim I again, I don't want everybody to think
I'm like some big downer onStranger Things.
Every time I watch it, I'mentertained from time to time.
My problem is they the they theyare very capable of making
incredibly compelling,entertaining television and and
set pieces and all this stuff.

(29:28):
The problem I had with seasonfour, and I think I'm gonna have
it again here, is all thewaiting I have to do in between.

SPEAKER_00 (29:36):
And I the But you just said that you liked it,
that it's gonna be split tillChristmas.

SPEAKER_02 (29:41):
No, no, no, not no, no, not the waiting in the in
the episode.
Oh, okay.
Like these episodes, like theyhad they'll they'll be having
this like Sadie Sinck's aperfect example for me of this.
Um if you find it later in thein the in the back was like the
second one.
Like she yeah, she's she's Shewe find out what she's been up

(30:01):
to, and then and like betweenher and then the Wheeler's
sister, the getting all thisscreen time that just like C's
always had a lot of time.

SPEAKER_00 (30:10):
Oh, you're talking about Holly.
Holly.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (30:12):
Like, what are we doing?
Well, Holly's the catalyst.
Introduce a brand new characterin the final season of your
show.

SPEAKER_00 (30:19):
You know Holly.

SPEAKER_02 (30:20):
What has she ever had a line?

SPEAKER_00 (30:22):
No, but she's the she's they needed a driving
force to get everybody in thereand go off the plan.
Yeah, and I feel like I see whatyou're saying with like some of
Max's lines, but at the sametime, like I liked having the
explanation of because she uhwhy she's still in that coma,
that basically she's trapped inlike the whole like Vecna world,
and that's why she can't getout.

(30:43):
I totally agree.

SPEAKER_02 (30:46):
I totally agree.
But she was Exposition City.
All of her scenes, all that'sall that was.

SPEAKER_00 (30:51):
I mean, because when she feels like she is the best
actress on the show, though.

SPEAKER_02 (30:54):
Because we okay, but that doesn't need to give her a
bunch of bland lines to say, oh,here's what I've been doing.

SPEAKER_00 (30:59):
I'm gonna disagree with you again.
I don't find that a lot of thatis bland because I like that
character, the characterizationpart, and I feel like Holly
needed to be filled in becauseas you said, she was she's a
lump, like she barely didanything, and they did cast a
new actress for Holly.

SPEAKER_02 (31:14):
And again, I do I want to point out that's the
one.
When we found out that it wasMax, yeah, I was excited because
I wanted to see how Max's storywas going to resolve.
Yeah.
So I really do think part ofthat is the Holly of the
situation and her the focus onher in these four first four
four episodes just seems likeone, it's coming out of nowhere
because this is not a characterwe were ever given any focus on.

SPEAKER_00 (31:37):
And like But it's the catalyst.

SPEAKER_02 (31:40):
Also, the you know, her and the Vecna thing, and it
just like I'll I'll say it rightnow.
Vecna was a great villain lastseason.
They're just doing the samething with him again this
season.

SPEAKER_00 (31:51):
See, I think the main villain hasn't while Vecna
is the villain, I think the mainvillain is like the government,
that what they did to Elle andwhat they're doing to the kids,
and what they're were I thinkthat is the actual villain
because Vecna, Henry, went to goin that same place and like they
kind of made him to what he whathe became.
Like I think that that like Ithink it's almost like a Game of

(32:13):
Thrones thing.

SPEAKER_02 (32:14):
You have the existential threat, and I was
thinking Game of Thrones at thisvery moment, and I'm gonna tell
you right now that I will if theending of this show ends like
Game of Thrones did, where theydefeat Vecna, like in the next
in the third episode of thesecond set, and then the
government is who they deal withfor the finale, that is gonna be
a big wet fart for me.

SPEAKER_00 (32:32):
I'm not sure though that'll go as quickly, but I
think that ultimately, if you'vebeen watching and paying
attention, that wouldn't you notagree?
Like Henry wouldn't be Vecna ifit wasn't for the stuff that the
government had been doing tothose kids.
I agree with that.
They are that like that is thevillain.

SPEAKER_02 (32:48):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (32:48):
Linda Hamilton, though, good casting.

SPEAKER_02 (32:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (32:51):
I expect her to you can't bring in the city.

SPEAKER_02 (32:53):
Do we expect Linda Hamilton's character to be and
remain bad?

SPEAKER_00 (32:57):
I have no idea.
I just know that you're bringingin a heavy hitter like that.
I think she's gonna whatevershe's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 (33:02):
She's gonna have a big role, yes.

SPEAKER_00 (33:04):
But do we think she's well they called her Dr.
K, and at first I was like, ohmy gosh.
I was like Henry Creel, but itit's Creel with a C, the last
name, because I was like, maybethat's the sister.

SPEAKER_02 (33:13):
Yeah, you guys were all crashing out over that.
I'm I'm like, it was right thereon the piece of paper.
It was Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (33:18):
I'm sure it's gonna matter.
Um, for everybody that hated onthe season two episode with
Eleven Sister, that everyonelike, what became of that?
Well, guess what?
The Deafer brothers just said,and here you go.
Because it turns out a lot ofthere was a where they were
thinking that they had maybe hadVecna trapped and that he was
controlling things in there.
It turns out it's 11 sisters.
So that episode, the Defferbrothers are like, here, we're

(33:40):
gonna make it relevant.
I don't know if that was alwaystheir plan, but I feel like they
wouldn't have done that withouthaving a plan.
Just throwing that out there.
Like I know plans change andevolve, but I I always thought
that that episode held moremeaning than what people gave it
to.
It just you had to wait, like,you know, a decade to to find
out what happened to the sister.
I don't know when season twoaired, but had to be a long time

(34:02):
ago, right?

SPEAKER_02 (34:04):
Yeah, yeah, a while ago.

SPEAKER_00 (34:05):
Quite a while ago.
And I'm kind of like theopposite of you.
Like, I wouldn't I don't know ifthis is what you meant by how
things started.
I was concerned that theyweren't going to be allowed back
into Hawkins.
And I was like, no, I want thelast season to be in Hawkins
because one of the things I didnot like about season four was
that we had half the cast inCalifornia and have, and I liked

(34:26):
that they are back where it alllike began.
So let's get let's touch on someof the character stuff then.
Uh Steve, not a jerk, afrustrated man.
Now, could you some of hisactions like trying to impress
Nancy be interpreted as maybebeing, you know, a bit like
chauvinistic, I guess.
But like everyone said he waslike mean to Dustin.

(34:46):
I don't think he's being it'sclear mean to Dustin.
It's clear that Dustin is stillvery much grieving Eddie's
death.
And the as the other charactershave pointed out, Dustin is
really not making good choices.
He's like, yeah, those guys,those comically awful.
What is up with all these moviesand shows?
I know that bullying happens inschools, but these they these

(35:07):
are like like serial killer likevillains.

SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
The bullying, and this isn't, and and this isn't
just season five.
This has been Stranger Things.
I think since season two.
Season one was Steve, and he wasnot crazy and insane.

SPEAKER_00 (35:20):
And guess what?
I'll defend Steve again.
That camera that he broke ofJonathan's Jonathan was taking
pictures of Nancy and her bra.
Without her consent, my man'sbroke the camera and it was
deserved.

SPEAKER_02 (35:33):
Ever since the since then, since season two, the
bullying in this show has beenjust like off the chart.
Like these people should becommitted.

SPEAKER_00 (35:40):
Do you not agree though that Steve had every
right to break that camera?

SPEAKER_02 (35:42):
Yeah, we're not talking about season one here,
Hope.
Well, you were.
We can't.
You were.
I no, I was referring back.

SPEAKER_00 (35:48):
Okay.
I will defend it.

SPEAKER_02 (35:50):
I agree with you.
It's just like it's just it'sover the top at this point.

SPEAKER_00 (35:55):
Like anyway, so moving on from that, he is
making bad choices.
He's getting beat up by thesevillains because everybody
thinks that Eddie is the onethat killed Chrissy.
Wake up.
I don't like this.
Hey, hello.
How to get out there.
Everyone thinks that they allstill think that Eddie killed
Chrissy.
And clearly this whole show isabout like the 80s, where people

(36:16):
they thought that people thatplayed what's it, what's the
game called?
That there were Dungeons andDragons.
They thought they were like,because this is like a real
thing that happened, right?
Like in the 80s.
They thought it was like demonicand like terrible and like all
these horrible things.
So I think they they all likeassociate that.
But um Dustin, our little DustyBun, is like, I'm gonna keep
Addy's memory alive.
So he's wearing like theirlittle, like I think they're

(36:37):
called like Hellfire Clubshirts, and he is he's poking
the bear.
The villains aren't thevillains, the bullies aren't
just coming after him.
Like he's putting snakes intheir lockers.
He's he's making it.
And it's clear that he's beendoing this for a little bit.
And you know, we have all theseother threats going on around
us, and the guys are like, like,Dustin, you gotta, you gotta
stop doing that.

(36:57):
And to me, a lot of Steve'sfrustrations come from a place
of love.
Like, like he he knows, he knewthat Dustin got beat up, and
that's why he was late.
And it's not that Steve wasbeing callous and uncaring, he
was just like, dude, come on.
Like, we've talked about this,and then we're and also let's I
know that Dustin is grieving andhe's capable of doing that, but

(37:18):
I really didn't appreciate theway he was speaking to Steve.
He kept calling Steve an idiot,a moron, and that's hurtful.
And Steve's just like, I havebeen doing everything I can, and
I think it hurts Steve'sfeelings, and I think they're
gonna be okay.
There's a hug in the trailer forthe next part that we haven't
seen, but I felt like that wasjust frustrations of two
characters who love each other.
I didn't feel like Steve wasreverting back to because yes,

(37:40):
while I do think he deserved tobreak that camera, I mean he was
kind of your your classicarrogant jerk in the beginning
of the series.
Um, I don't think he's revertingback to that.
I think, yeah, he clearly has itbad down for Nancy.
And I don't think he would bethis way for Nancy if she hadn't
indicated in season four thatshe might be into it because
let's just Nancy at Nancy couldtell them to stop at any moment.

(38:05):
And you know what if Jonathanwas secure in their
relationship, he wouldn't engagehe would just kind of laugh
while Steve tries to show off.
But Jonathan gets right into itas well.
And Nancy, I think part of Nancyis like she's kind of like, we
have so many more things to dealwith, and it's just I think she
just doesn't I think she doesn'twant to recognize that she might
have feelings for Steve again.
I don't know if she does or not.

(38:25):
I think she's definitelyattracted to him.
We had that scene where he likereached over and she kind of
like looked, but I don't know ifStancy's in-game.
I would like it if it was.
And you know what though?
For me, I wasn't always a stancyshipper until really season four
put that in the universe.
And I'm like, this would makesense because it would be earned
for these characters, but at thesame time, I'm fine if they

(38:47):
don't end up together.
I do think Jancy's cooked.
I don't know if Jonathan's gonnabite it, but he was already
wanting to soft break up withher last season.
I don't think I just don't thinkthey like each other.
I think they they have afondness for each other.
They're trauma bonded, and Iwould really like this show to
explore that sometimes traumabonding isn't the best thing.
And I think they've grown apart,and I think right now they're

(39:09):
just desperately hanging on, andthere's so many other things
going on.
But what do you think of thesechipboards?
Like, I think Nancy's eithergonna be single, she's gonna
croak, or maybe we will getStancy.
I don't know.
I like I just don't think thatJonathan and Nancy are in-game,
period.

SPEAKER_02 (39:25):
I forget Jonathan exists every single time we are
in between seasons of this show.
Yeah.
He for me is such a blandnothing of a character.
Yeah.
That I just like he is nothingto me.
I like I don't like I agree withyou.
I don't think he and I think heand Nancy are certainly on a

(39:46):
path towards n breaking up.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I would be fine if Nancy don'tdon't need no man.
Yeah, I would be fine withNancy.
And her resolution is withnobody.
I don't think that's going to gohow it's gonna play out.
She's gonna be with somebody bythe end.
And I if I had to choose, Iguess I would say I wish it was,
I was hope it's Steve, notJonathan, because I he's just so

(40:09):
meh.
Like again, I f I legitimately.

SPEAKER_00 (40:12):
I don't even think he I think he's hanging on to
something like they because Ijust think they're and I think
she is too.
Like she again, I know there'sother stuff going on, but she
could shut that down, and thiswas all before her parents got
attacked.
She could, and she I think she'sjust confused, and I think she
doesn't want to come off likethe bad guy either.

(40:32):
I'm not like I said, I'm notsure if Stancy is in-game, but I
think in I think if it would be,I think it would be very much
earned because they actually,and that is what case where I
will say that the writing hasbeen good for Stranger Things.
Because even when I we startedliking Steve in the second
season with his character arc,like I still wasn't like, oh,
they need to get back together.

(40:53):
Like I I was like, you know, I Iwasn't even thinking about it.
But then with his characterevolving, Nancy changing, like,
no, that is I I'm serious,Daniel.
That is a case where I feel likeif they put them together, it
would be earned and it wouldmake sense that two people that
have grown are now, you know howlike Rory and Jess never got

(41:14):
together on Gilmore Girls, wrongplace, right person, wrong time,
all this stuff.
We could have a situation likethat here, and I think it's been
built built up well.
That being said, I just don'tknow if that's Nancy's arc, but
I definitely think that she andJonathan aren't gonna be a
thing.
Um, Robin and Vicky, they kindof had a little spark at the
beginning of last season.
They're together.
We didn't get as as much ofthat.

(41:35):
I do would like to see some moreof her, Robin.
I fear, I fear though, thatwe've had a lot of focus on
Robin, and now I'm afraid thatshe might die.

SPEAKER_02 (41:43):
Yeah, she also just seemed really out of place.

SPEAKER_00 (41:46):
I don't see okay, someone fight you on this too.
Are you talking about Vicky orRobin?

SPEAKER_02 (41:51):
Robin.

SPEAKER_00 (41:52):
Okay, you want to know why Robin seemed different?
She's finally unmasked.

SPEAKER_02 (41:56):
Sure, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 (41:57):
She's not trying to be someone she's not, she's
comfortable around all thesepeople, and we're getting to see
her actual personality.
You had to have liked hersweatshirt she had on the whole
time, right?

SPEAKER_02 (42:06):
Yeah, I sent you a TikTok about how to buy.

SPEAKER_00 (42:08):
I know.
Be me.
What does it say?
Be me up, Scotty.
This place sucks.
Yeah.
So I've seen a lot of discourseabout Robin feeling weird, and I
do think that a lot of I I agreethat like she's more
comfortable, like she'scomfortable with these people.

SPEAKER_02 (42:20):
Again, I'm not saying she felt weird.
I think her as a character feltfine.
I just think that the thegravity of the situation of
which they are in, and she'sstill just over there quipping
away like it ain't nothing, umwas odd.

SPEAKER_00 (42:33):
I mean, Maya Hawk is delivering the lines that is
given to the colour.
But then again, yeah, no, no,no.

SPEAKER_02 (42:37):
Believe me, I know all of them are, because then
there's the whole like um uh,you know, the conversation when
they're in the tunnels with in,you know, uh they weren't
referring to anything bad, so Ican say the word, but the the
dick joke, yeah, like that wasjust was like, what are we doing
with this?
Like, guys, this is like itagain, you you're right.

(42:58):
They have some writing thatwe're relationship-wise, some
stuff that if it happens will bevery earned and well done.
And then on the other side,they've got this Marvel-esque
almost kind of like quippyconversation they're trying to
do, and it's coming off reallyflat and weird.

SPEAKER_00 (43:13):
It's not as funny as the turn round.
Is that season three?
Were they saying?

SPEAKER_02 (43:19):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know where somebody is.

SPEAKER_00 (43:22):
That's who needs to help Dustin out of his grief
period.
So back to the Wheeler parents.
Um, they get attacked byDemogorgon, so now they
definitely know.
No one checks in on Mr.
Ted Wheeler, he's in a coma.
Karen Wheeler, can we just talkabout what a baddie Karen
Wheeler is?
She's irritated with herhusband.
My girl's trying to take a bathand listen to some ABBA and
drink some wine.

(43:42):
Fernando.
She can't hear Holly screaming.
Finally does.
And what does Karen do when shesees the Demogorgon?
She doesn't run away like thegovernment people.
My baddie takes her wine bottleand posts up while Abba's
playing in the background andtakes one out.
Obviously, Karen's very injured.
Uh, but well done, Karen.

(44:05):
We we gotta we gotta give ourKaren Wheeler our flowers too.
That was a funny scene.

SPEAKER_02 (44:09):
Yeah, I agree.
That was a good scene.
Um again, like I said, they'reable the Duffer brothers put
together some really like veryentertaining and captivating
moments.
Yeah.
My problem is the things thatstitch those moments together
don't they just they seemsometimes flat to me.
Um I guess that brings us aroundto Will, who kind of had the

(44:32):
final arc of this first coupleset of episodes.
Um he's trying to find himself,he's had some thoughts about
himself and and who he might be,and then he's kind of observed
um what's her what's my hawk'scharacter's name again?
Robin Robin with Vicky, and sonow he's really starting to ask

(44:52):
some questions about himself.

SPEAKER_00 (44:54):
Well, we already know he liked Mike from season
four, he kind of came out withit.

SPEAKER_02 (44:58):
I mean, not to Mike, but but I think him having Robin
is a good to kind of help himwalk through some of that stuff.
Because, like you said, Robin,who is a person who's kind of
unmasked themselves and and isalmost living, she's still not
quite there because she's not.

SPEAKER_00 (45:11):
Yeah, well, you again we have to we have to take
ourselves back to that timeperiod.
It's not now, it's the 80s.

SPEAKER_02 (45:16):
Um but that brings us to the last episode and the
end of the last episode when youknow uh Hopper and Elle are in
the upside down and they thinkVecna is inside the government
compound.
They break in, they get all theway in there, they find out it's
actually not Vecna, it's hersister, and then we go to the
regular world, and and herecomes Vecna marching.

SPEAKER_00 (45:40):
Snatched by the way.
Did you see that waist?
Vecna's like, I want to on aZampeg.
I took over a year off and cameback looking good, boy.

SPEAKER_02 (45:48):
She comes out and and is starts, you know,
wrecking stuff and um really,really down, talks bad down on
Will, like in a bad way.
And that kind of gets Will, Ican't tell if it was angry, I
can't tell if it was focused,but it gives him the ability to
unlock his uh powers, and thelast shot you see is him wiping
that blood off his face the samecringy way that 11 has done it

(46:13):
to indicate that he has powers.

SPEAKER_00 (46:15):
You just don't like that they're so obvious with
stuff that they don't rely onmedia literacy, but guess as
we've learned the one to get inthis season.
We did.

SPEAKER_02 (46:23):
Because there's this whole mystery guy with Holly,
who again, I Holly goes to thebook.
I don't want to talk about Hollyfor this entire episode, but I
guess we have to becausebasically the entire first four
episodes were just Holly-focusedepisodes.

SPEAKER_00 (46:34):
But it's like who's buying that Holly 7, that
actress is 13.

SPEAKER_02 (46:38):
Who's the mystery guy talking to Holly?
The very first time that weheard that, we were like, it's
Vecna, right?

SPEAKER_00 (46:43):
We were like, it's Vecna as his Henry Form.

SPEAKER_02 (46:45):
And then they had to do this whole like five-minute
like reveal thing.

SPEAKER_00 (46:48):
And you and I were like, wait a minute, was this
supposed to be a shock?
We clocked that in two seconds.
That's what I think a lot ofpeople on the line were like
that wasn't shocking.
I don't know if they intended itto be a shock.
If you were shocked by that, letme know.
Because we were like, wait, wewere shocked that it was
supposed to be shocking.
Yeah, we were like, wait aminute, what is this the big big
reveal?

SPEAKER_02 (47:08):
Again, Vecna's back, they've established that.

SPEAKER_00 (47:11):
The bigger shock was Max showing up in the upside
down, like that she still has tobe able to do it.
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (47:17):
Right.
So it's just, I don't know.
That was like, what?
You're trying to because theyreally spent enough time on that
reveal that it that it felt tome like they were trying to say,
look how shocking this is thatthis secret person is Vecna.

SPEAKER_00 (47:30):
That all goes back to what like Vecna Henry's doing
though, and what he's talkedabout.
Well, he's like, I go after aweek, people you're a week, and
he's been rounding up kids orthe government.

SPEAKER_02 (47:41):
We don't know what he's doing with them yet.

SPEAKER_00 (47:42):
Because they thought the government was rounding up
kids, he's rounding up kids, wedon't know.
Um, so that's why there's beenthe focus on Holly as well, with
the whole like, and he c heappears to them as like Mr.
What's it?

SPEAKER_02 (47:52):
The thing is, like, this show it's so frustrating
because yes, the Holly istechnically a character that has
been around forever, but this isreally the first time she's
getting anything to do.
And then they show us that theycan write characters that
actually are interesting becauseDerek comes in.

SPEAKER_00 (48:10):
Delightful Derek and immediately favorite new
characters.

SPEAKER_02 (48:13):
He's like, Oh, this kid is like entertaining and
very good, and I'm happy he'shere.

SPEAKER_00 (48:18):
Well, at first we were like, uh, this kid is
cringe, and then when you whenhe slams that walkie with the
lunchbox, and he's like,remember, what are you now?
Delightful Derek.

SPEAKER_02 (48:26):
Well, it's like it's a lish any emotion.

SPEAKER_00 (48:29):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (48:30):
You feel emotion about a character, that means
they've written it well,whatever that emotion may be,
whether it's positive ornegative.

SPEAKER_00 (48:35):
We need him to survive.

SPEAKER_02 (48:36):
Yeah, and it's like Holly is just not looking good.

SPEAKER_00 (48:38):
Wasn't Vecna dragging him away?

SPEAKER_02 (48:40):
Yeah, yeah.
He he got them all, so we don'tknow what he's gonna do with
them.

SPEAKER_00 (48:43):
Um Did we talk about I think we're alone now?
Where Holly, everyone's lookingfor Holly, and she's just
vibing, making cakes and theupside down, listening.
I think you're alone now.

SPEAKER_02 (48:51):
I mean, they always do well with the music.
I I I kind of thought the thethe the scenes with Max where
they were kind of flashbackingand they were like, we really
gotta get that song back inthere because it was such a and
it's like just just move on fromit.
It was great in season four.
We all loved it.
Move on and do something new andmemorable.
And I think that to me, thebiggest thing about these first

(49:13):
four episodes, and again, thesame it's the same with season
four because the the stuff thatreally has the juice is yet to
come.
This was all set up.
There's nothing from this firstfour episodes outside of when
Vecna comes out and and revealshimself finally there at the
end, and then Will gets hispowers that sticks out to me and
that is gonna be memorable.

SPEAKER_00 (49:32):
I know I said they're putting their foot on
the gas, or I was one I thoughtthey'd put their foot more on
the gas than what they're doing,and they're taking their time
even though everything's goingdown at once, which it's almost
like I'm not making sense when Isay that, but you know what I
mean, right?

SPEAKER_03 (49:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (49:44):
You understand where I thought there would be guns
blazing.
Like I thought Will with thepowers would be revealed in like
the first episode.
But at the same time, I feellike if they had only done like
that, and then the next episodewould be the end of it, it would
almost feel like whiplash forme.
So I like that it's drawn out ina bit.
Um, another thing that I we needto talk about Will.

(50:07):
Um, I always thought Will hadpowers, they just hadn't been
untapped.
I'm like, have people not beenlike he's had he's this is a
Harry Potter situation, guys.
We've seen The Order of thePhoenix, we've seen this film
before.
Um he and Vecna are connected,just like Harry and Voldemort
were connected.
Even when it comes to, werealize like how Harry could
see, like, he saw Mr.
Weasley being attacked by thesnake.

(50:28):
He's even seen like the samevisions.
That's how we know aboutdelightful Derek.
And I'm like, I've alwaysthought that that was gonna be
Will's ultimate arc, that he andVecna are connected and that he
can harness those powers.
I didn't think it would becomelike suddenly, I mean, we got
poor Eleven working out tryingto make hers better, and Will
just is like, you know what?
I'm gonna take a boo.

SPEAKER_02 (50:47):
And then that's the you know, as we kind of come
close this conversation down,Hopper and Eleven are kind of
the two we haven't really talkedabout.
They didn't do much.

SPEAKER_00 (50:57):
Like they went to the they they're having the same
argument they always do.

SPEAKER_02 (51:00):
They both had the same argument they always do.
Same resolution they always dowith the same resolution.
They found their they both wentfound their way into the upside
down because Hopper was going into scout and 11 ends up going in
trying to get Holly.
They they find each other, theyget together, they go to the
camp to try and get Vecna.
It's not Vecna, and that's it.
And it's like they're having thesame argument they've had for
four for five years.

SPEAKER_00 (51:20):
We know Hopper's trauma.
We already know this.
We know why he's so protective.
It's just so theirs was verymuch repetitive.
That's why we haven't talkedabout them very much.
I think she's gonna now thatshe's found her sister again.
I think Eleven's big arc iscoming in the back half.

SPEAKER_02 (51:32):
And I thought that, you know, yeah, like you said,
we know the trauma with Hopper,so I thought that the all the
flash to it once, but they didso much flashback stuff with his
daughter.
And it's like, and I get it.
Do you want us to remember?
Because the first season waslike 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_00 (51:46):
Even longer than that.

SPEAKER_02 (51:47):
But it's like, uh guys, there's there's just too
much fluff here.

SPEAKER_00 (51:51):
Okay, so talking about shipping, I feel like, and
this would be where I would say,then why did you write the scene
that way?
I think, and I want it to be outhere too, because I've seen
people that are like, if youdon't support this ship, that
you're like against likesame-sex romances, uh, couldn't
be further from the truth.
I'm one of the biggest Loki,what's his name?
Who I ship on the Loki show.

(52:11):
Mobius, yes, Mobius, Mobius,Mobius.
Loki and Mobius.
Yeah.
I am totally fine with same-sexparents when it's written
properly.
We know that Will is into Mike.
I have never been given anyindication that Mike is into
Will at all, other than afriendship way.
And I felt like the conversationthat Will and Robin had was

(52:34):
very, I feel like it shut itdown.

SPEAKER_02 (52:36):
I do too.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (52:37):
Because she was like, she talked about how the
Tammy girl she liked, but thenhe what she went out with.
Tammy ended up going out withSteve, and she realized, you
know, that that's I think Ithink that Mike might be his
Tammy.
You know, other people are like,well, when he was all sad with
Vecna, he was thinking about hismemories with Mike, and that's
when he got better.
I I disagree.
I'm gonna have to, they're gonnahave to do a lot in the next

(52:58):
three episodes before the finaleof showing that Mike thinks of
Will in that way.
Because right now, Mike is stilltotally into 11 and he's never
showed anything other than aeven interacted this season?
They have a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 (53:10):
I think they still like that's been also a weird
thing, is we never got the corekid group together.

SPEAKER_00 (53:15):
Yeah, they they hunt out a little.
I think they talked a little bitbefore because she was like,
I'll go in and get Holly.
I will say this Mike is finally,I finally like Mike again.
He's been, and I get it, he's alittle kid and he's going
through issues, but Mike has notbeen a pleasant character, in my
opinion, since season one, and Ifeel like Mike is showing
leadership.
He's like back to being theleader of the group again.
Yeah, he's much better.

SPEAKER_02 (53:36):
He's much better.
You can tell he's grown up, youcan tell he's kind of like
taking the reins.
And I don't want them tobacktrack on it.
I really don't.
I really I I think he's onecharacter who has gone through
it and is coming, and I'm whatI'm hoping is we're seeing him
coming out the other side to bethe better person that he has
that he's become.
Yeah.
And like you said, I don't wantto see backsliding in this
network.
Not that Tyler would bebacksliding, that's not a

(53:57):
attitude and no, thatrelationship just simply is if
it they're gonna have to do workon Mike's side to make it
believable.

SPEAKER_00 (54:05):
I think that Mike is being a good brother, a good
friend, and he's just thecharacter, and I think for your
full circle, like he was theleader, quote unquote, like I
would say he was like kind ofthe main character, if you will,
in the beginning.
So I I like what they're doingwith him.
Um I do think from an actingperspective it's clear these
kids are done with this show.

SPEAKER_03 (54:24):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (54:25):
Like Sadie Sink, uh, I think she is the best actor
and she did what she could withher lines.
I hate that they made us wait towhat, like episode three to get
Erica back.
You can't smell America withoutErica.
Um, so what are you?

SPEAKER_02 (54:39):
It just feels so like it feels so slow yet so
fast all at the same time.
Yeah, that's what I've beentrying to say.
Really strange these first fourepisodes.
It is strange, if you will.

SPEAKER_00 (54:55):
Stranger things.
I already new world.
I keep wanting to say that.
So what are your predictions?
How do you I don't know how it'sgonna be?

SPEAKER_02 (55:02):
Um I think they're going to beat the bad guy and
win the day.

SPEAKER_00 (55:06):
Well, me too.
Do what casualties?
Who's not making it out of thisseason?

SPEAKER_02 (55:11):
Oh, I don't think Hopper's making it out.

SPEAKER_00 (55:13):
I'm worried about Hopper.
I'm very worried about Stevestill.
Even though Steve is a fanfavorite, I'm worried.
Honestly, though, I'm startingto think that I'm starting to my
odds of Steve biting it arebecoming lower, and I think
Jonathan might be the one now.
I d if Jonathan dies, Will's notgoing to die though, because
they're not gonna make Joycelose two of her sons.

(55:34):
Yeah, and I'm gonna do it.
I do think there's someone'slike, because then I don't think
you've watched it yet.
They've released the trailersfor the back half, and like
Will's head is on Vecna's bodyat some point.
So I don't know if it's gonnawhat's going on.
Something's going on.

SPEAKER_02 (55:50):
Do you think a core kid dies?

SPEAKER_00 (55:53):
So 11 would be if I had to pick, you know what?
I would lean towards 11.

SPEAKER_02 (55:58):
Eleven's sister showing up dropped the odds for
me of her dying.
Because now that she that'sthere, she's gonna I think
Hopper is cooked.

SPEAKER_00 (56:07):
And I know the actor who plays um Lucas said that his
ending is a little differentthan the others.
I don't know what that means.
So I'm a little worried forthat.
Somebody was like, how sad wouldit be if Max wakes up because
Lucas makes a sacrifice?
I'm like, that would behorrible.
I don't want to see that, youknow.
I don't like that.

SPEAKER_02 (56:27):
Maybe they both just get stuck in the dream world and
they live out forever.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
That seems strange to me.

SPEAKER_00 (56:32):
It would be strange, stranger things.
I don't know.
I think that if I I I'm hopingthey all survive, but I would
say Eleven or Will would be likethe ones.
What what what do you think?

SPEAKER_02 (56:44):
Like if you're I mean above the of the original,
like if we don't count Steve, wedon't count Jonathan, we talk
about the kids, right?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (56:51):
Yeah, you just talk about those first season one
kids.

SPEAKER_02 (56:53):
I think Eleven and Will are the most obvious
choices.
Yeah.
I could also say, I could alsoget into the meta commentary a
little bit and say that of allof the child actors, they're not
children actors anymore.
Yeah, they're like adults.
Who are done with this?
Um the actress that plays Elevenis super duper done with this,
and I can see her being likecontractually like, you gotta

(57:14):
kill me, so it can so I cannever be brought back into this
in any way.

SPEAKER_00 (57:18):
Yeah.
I I feel like they know thatlike even though he's being a
little bit of a pill becausehe's grieving, but Dusty Bun,
Dustin, I think they know he'slike the favorite.
I don't think I don't think.

SPEAKER_02 (57:29):
I hadn't thought about Lucas.
Um I I I yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (57:34):
But I I am looking forward to seeing how they wrap
this up.
It's really hard to write afinale to satisfy everyone.
People will complain as usual.
Writing a finale is one of thehardest things.

SPEAKER_02 (57:46):
Oh, it's I don't envy anyone who has to write a
finale.

SPEAKER_00 (57:49):
I think the mark of being a good writer and like
doing justice for your show isto come up with a finale that
people are going to like.
And I think they have a lot, alot on their plate because so
many people watch StrangerThings and people are people are
gonna have feelings whateverthey do.

SPEAKER_02 (58:04):
And I won't even say come up with an ending that
people like.
I want to make sense, yeah.
I might not be happy thatcertain characters end in
certain ways or in other ways.

(58:25):
As long as it makes sense and itmakes and it and I understand
why they made the decisions, Ican live with it.

SPEAKER_00 (58:31):
I don't think they're gonna do what they what
people have been saying, wherethey're gonna like roll in a sob
in a game and in somebody'shead.
I don't think that that'sinfuriating, and everyone would
have a right to be angry.
I can see somebody said this.
This is a theory I read.
They're like, what if we get ridof the upside down and it and by
getting rid of the upside down,all of their memories about the

(58:53):
upside down are gone.
I could see them pulling somecrap like that, and that would
irritate me.
Because I feel like it shapedthem as characters.

SPEAKER_02 (59:01):
Yeah, that seems very fanficy, and it's like,
okay, well then explain 11.
Yeah, like she is so tied in.
I think they wouldn't rememberher, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 (59:09):
And I think that would I think that would do
would not be justice to thosecharacters.
So I do believe, I don't know ifwe're getting four or if it's
the three, and then the fourthis the last one.
I think it might be the threeepisodes.
We will be getting those, and Ibelieve they're gonna drop at
the same time.
I think they're gonna do like 8p.m.
on Christmas, which I think isthe right move.
Yeah, I agree.
And then we'll get that finalone on New Year's Eve, and we

(59:30):
will probably not talk to youguys about Stranger Things until
the year 2026, God willing.

SPEAKER_02 (59:37):
Okay, so Stranger New World's Things out of the
way.
Uh we did watch well, we kindof.
Hallmarks and Netflix have been,or just Hallmarks, I guess.
Yeah, just Hallmarks itself.
Have been consumed.
Um, one I did not partake in.

SPEAKER_00 (59:52):
Only two because of the aforementioned holiday.

SPEAKER_02 (59:55):
One I did.
Uh you want to start with theone you watched by ourselves by
yourself?

SPEAKER_00 (59:58):
I watched an Alpin.
Holiday, and it stars AshleyWilliams, who is Brad Paisley's
sister-in-law.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:06):
Oh, you're gonna rant about this, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:08):
And then it's I'm not gonna rant.
I like the movie, but I am gonnatalk about age description.
And then it starred anotheractress, so I don't know her
name, but it's about twosisters, and they had lived and
grew up with their grandparentsbecause their their mom passed
away when they were very young.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:23):
Deadparent drink.

SPEAKER_00 (01:00:24):
And the dad is out of the picture because he
couldn't handle it.
So they've always had a specialspecial connection to Christmas
to their grandparents in thecity.
They would take pictures everyyear.
It's clear at some point as thegirls age, because we get these
flashback scenes in thebeginning that grandpa's passed
away, and then it is just themwith grandma.
And then to our present day, itis clear that grandma probably

(01:00:45):
passed away maybe a year or twoago.
And grandma has left some sageadvice in the future.
And she once she felt like sheand her husband, they really
started truly living and findingthemselves after they took a
trip to like I'm guessing theAlps, because it's called an
Alpine Hallley.
They were somewhere withmountains in outside of Paris.

(01:01:05):
Is that the Alps?

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:07):
Um yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_00 (01:01:08):
Don't tell who who took French.
Don't talk to me about geographywhen people don't know West
where West Virginia is, justwhatever.
Anyway, um, so she uh let setthis all up for them, had the
whole trip, worked with lawyers,left clues along the way.
She clearly knew she was gonnadie at some point.
So she set all this up becauseshe knew that her granddaughters
needed to like find themselves.

(01:01:28):
So I will get to the thing thatirritated me the most is that
our first flashback starts inthe year like 2002, and I'm
like, Ashley Williams is likeolder than me.
I was like, well, maybe she's atleast my age.
She is 47.
So in one of the flashbackswhere there are still children
is 2008, and I'm like, you weremaking out with Ted Mosby in
2008, probably terrible show,How I Met Your Mother, by the

(01:01:48):
way.
So I'm like, okay, I knowactresses play younger, but that
is significantly younger.
And just and I'm irritated bythis because the whole, you
know, all the drama withHallmark earlier back, you know,
several months.
I try not to.
Well, basically they were whichI'm glad they didn't boot the
old act, because I like AshleyWilliams.
That's why I wanted to watchthat movie about like wanting

(01:02:09):
like younger actresses.
So instead they're like, we'regonna make you play.
Like, I was it's one thing toplay somebody in like TV when
you're like five, ten yearsyounger.
Like she was playing someonelike almost not quite 20 years
younger, but significantlyyounger, like 17 or so years
younger.
And it's just insulting to me.
That's all.
That's all.
That's all.
What is Miranda Pritzley?
That's all.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:29):
I think you were just triggered by the flashback
to being young, young people in2002.

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:34):
Yeah, but she's not younger than me.
You were not a young person.
She's quite older than me,Daniel.
Oh my gosh.
Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 (01:02:41):
Did they find themselves in the Alps?

SPEAKER_00 (01:02:43):
They did.
They end up going, we had onesister, like Ashley Williams is
more like the laid-back, likebut sister.
She has a significant other whoproposed, we find out, but she's
like afraid of commitment.
So she hadn't said yes yet, butshe had lied to the other sister
about like, oh, like Benproposed.
Um, and then the other one'smore like the uptight, the
anxious one, probably the one Iwould be like that's always has

(01:03:05):
anxiety about everything.
It's like, I can't last minutego on a trip that leaves
Christmas Eve.
Um I think they left on did theyleave on Christmas Eve?
I don't know.
I didn't watch the movie.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:14):
I did not watch the movie.
I can't ask me questions.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:17):
Sometime around the holidays, and then like she ends
up hooking up with their guidewho like hit on her.
Uh John Paul, who has not saidhe was was distracted and
couldn't finish the moviebecause he thought it was really
weird how like the guide washitting on her.
Um, but he did not.
I need to point this out to you,John Paul.
He he had looked up the other,so he says this, because they're

(01:03:37):
meeting the guide at this cafe.
He didn't know at that pointthat the blonde sister was
coming.
He only knew because she decidedlast minute.
So he didn't even realize thatwas one of his clients.
So he just thought she was somerandom blonde American pretty
girl in a cafe.
So he was hitting on her.
And she's like, he's like, Oh,well, you don't look like you
did in the my in your Instagram.

(01:03:58):
So I didn't know you were myclient.
I'm sorry, because he had lookedup what the other girl looked
like.
So I guess he was still lookingup to see what it was, but
probably not to see what theylook like, to see you know which
which woman he needs to be likethis is the woman I'm meeting in
the cafe.
So I don't think he wasintending to hit on the client.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:13):
John Paul, I haven't watched this movie, but just
from everything I've heard righthere, he sounds creepy.
I'm on your side.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:18):
No, he's cute.
It works hot people can get bywith a lot of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:22):
We'll talk about that and then when we talk about
Star Trek.

SPEAKER_00 (01:04:24):
I guess so.
But they had a lot, they hadthey had some good chemistry,
and then it turns out, you know,she ends up the other one, does
end up with her like her bin.
She doesn't at first I was like,oh, are they gonna make her go
after this the ex-boy or theex-girlfriend of the other love
interest, and we're gonna have alittle thigh-no, no, it's fine.
Her whole arc was like learningto commit to things, and the

(01:04:46):
other one was learning tocommitment, was loosening up,
and I just I thought thebackdrop of the movie was very
nice, and it was Christmassy,and I liked it that the sisters
were the focus more so than justthe romance, and I can I see why
they bring in Ashley Williams toplay the younger one because it
was good.
She was the one in like theamazing race type one we watched
last year that you said wasbetter than fine.

(01:05:08):
Um but yeah, this one was good,and then the next one we watched
together called The Snow Must GoOn, and I know the lead male's
wife.
I went to high school with her.
We ran track together.
Um, she would often be on myfour by four hundred team.
So flex, he um his name is CoreyCott.
He's probably more famous in theBroadway circles because he was

(01:05:31):
the lead on newsies for a year.
So I feel like in that type ofindustry, that's a bigger deal,
being the lead on a Broadwayshow.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:37):
Did you play Christian Bale's character?

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:39):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:40):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:41):
Being the lead on a Broadway show is probably more
important than being a lead in aHallmark movie, but it's still
pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:48):
Do they listen to the podcast?

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:50):
I don't think they do.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:51):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (01:05:52):
It was uh Should I try to get him on?

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:54):
It was it was uh it was also you're gonna say if
they listen to the podcast andbe like, oh man, this is great.
I loved it.
It was excellent.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:02):
Okay.
The plot and the overarchingwasn't great, but I thought he
did do a good job for what it'sclear because he that it was
about a Broadway person.

SPEAKER_01 (01:06:12):
He needed a song and dance man, and they brought on a
song and dance man.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:15):
So he did a good job.
Go ahead, is speaking of theplot and give us give us the
rundown.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:19):
Uh the snow must go on.
Main male actor, failed Broadwayuh guy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:26):
No one came to his off off Broadway team.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:31):
He had at one point had one shining moment where he
was like the lead on an actualBroadway show and hasn't had
anything yet.
Um trying to get auditions forstuff, but it's not working out.
So he ends up going home forChristmas to Hancock! The City
of Hancock.

SPEAKER_00 (01:06:48):
We're both children.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:50):
The City of Hancock, which the name of the city,
Hancock, did not come up in anypoint in the show as a place of
comedy, and yet every time theysaid it, you and I laughed like
12-year-old boys.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:01):
I mean, I burped at the beginning of the podcast.
I don't know what you peoplewant from me, and we thought
that was hilarious.
Burping, farting, funny.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:08):
Um He stays at his sister's house.
Um the first time we meet thesister, she has a daughter, and
we both are like We thought theywere wives.
They were yeah, we both thoughtthey were wives.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:21):
The girl looked much older than a high school kid.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:24):
Especially in that first scene.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:25):
But then when they had her like in her school
clothes and her pigtails, shedid look younger, but in that
scene it was I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:30):
Anyways, he makes it back to Hancock to stay in his
sister's house, and he ends uphaving to go pick up his niece
from school.
The drama director is stormingout of the school, and it ends
up he he ends up um now incharge of directing the school
program, which is on ChristmasEve, by the way.

(01:07:52):
Well, it's clear to me it was aprivate school.
Um it was clear to me it was aprivate school, so maybe you
also thought the love interestin this was a math, a math
teacher.
A science teacher.
A science teacher.
She's a guidance counselor,guidance counselor.
I was like, I didn't know whatshe was, but I I clocked it like
probably assistant by assistantprincipal or something.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:09):
And then you're like, Do you not pay attention?
I was like, not they're I guessmy assistant principal is vice
principal.
They're getting closer andcloser in these movies to like
the job titles that you made upthat time when you thought when
I thought something was like,Where are the lamps?
One time we were watching thatone, you guys have heard the
story, and I'm Daniel's likethat's right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:24):
His sister makes candles in cups.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:27):
Daniel was like, he's a lampshade artisan, and
like halfway through the movie,I'm like, Where I'm the lamp.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:31):
That's half a step from lampshade.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:33):
Yeah, it really is.
Like you could go in and likewrite the script.
This one was still better thanthat stupid Bills movie.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:39):
Uh he's doing the play.
He finds out that one of thepeople who one of the kids who
is uh in the play um is thedaughter of a big time producer
on Broadway.
So he concocts this plan to gethimself an audition via being
the lead character in the typeof play.

SPEAKER_00 (01:08:56):
He pulls a baby Billy.
I'm gonna make myself tingless.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:00):
Um no one seems to find this super odd.
They push back ever so slightly,and then they're like, fine, it
we're fine with it.
And they go on and do that.
He makes the daughter hisunderstudy so that he can get
close to her and learn things.
As the show goes on, he figuresout that she has major problems
with mom.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:20):
But he also finds out that he's a passionate
teacher and he likes teachingthe kids and he really likes
doing this.
And because they're likely aprivate school, he does get
offered a job without aneducation degree.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:29):
He gets he so for for dress rehearsal night.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:33):
And he's booing up the not science teacher.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:36):
Dress rehearsal night, the mom producer is
there, he sings his thing.
She comes back and is like, thatwas really good.
Gonna do a um And we're alllike, was it though?
Do you want to do a, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:47):
He's a good singer.
An audition.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:49):
Audition.
Um Christmas Eve.
On Christmas Eve.
This is like the the the theboard at company and elf.
They're like doing stuff onChristmas Eve.

SPEAKER_00 (01:09:59):
She was coming to the dress rehearsal because she
didn't want to come to the mainplay.
She doesn't make schoolfunction.
She's a very absent person.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:05):
So the his his girlfriend, quasi girlfriend,
hears this, gets all mad at him,makes him tell all the kids.
He tells all the kids he's notgoing to be there.
He goes to New York to do theaudition, and then he can't do
it, and he convinces the mom tocome back to the play in time to
see the daughter sing and towatch the kids.
And then the snow machinefinally works, and then he

(01:10:26):
kisses.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:27):
Not the daughter, he kisses this the not science
teacher, the guidance counselorlady.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:31):
The guidance counselor lady.

SPEAKER_00 (01:10:33):
Um, I thought this one was I thought it was a cute
plot, the but plot wise, likeI've seen better.
You would have liked the Alpineone better.
But I did think that he, andit's not just because I know his
wife, but I thought like he likehe they they they hired a real
Broadway person, so he was thereto sing and dance and whatever.
I think that did he dance?
I don't know if he danced.
He did, I feel like in his oneman show, right?

(01:10:54):
I don't know.
Maybe I don't know.
It was weird.
Um Yeah, I you're missing you'remissing a lot that happened, but
with like the love story, but Ifelt like again the the love
story was not quite at the itwas more about him finding his
love for that music, and then hejust got a hot teacher lady, or
excuse me, guidance counselorlady along the way who had her
whole other side plot that shewas gonna start a creative

(01:11:15):
writing group for adults.
Didn't you go to a creativewriting group for adults once?

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:20):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:20):
I thought you did.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:22):
No.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:22):
No, that was a beer group you went to beer group
adults.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:24):
Come on, give me a little bit of credit.

SPEAKER_00 (01:11:27):
Alright, but yeah, so no Netflix ones this week.
There's some stuff we want towatch.
We'll probably do one moreregular episode of the podcast
before we get into our holidaycontent.
So I'm sure you'll have more ofthis to um reflect on.
Also, last week was the Dancingwith the Stars finale, to the
shock of no one except for theAlex Earl fan army on TikTok

(01:11:47):
that does not live in the realworld.
Uh Robert Irwin won.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:51):
I was sweating for half a second.
Half a second.
Because they didn't.
And they got it down to thefinal two, and they said it was
the closest they'd had in a longtime, and it was Alex and it was
Rob or Robert.
But at the end of the day, I wasabsolutely right.
There was just no defeating ourman, Robert Irwin.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:08):
And I thought what was funny was I I saw this
TikTok, and this girl was like,You wanting to tell me that Alex
Earl, who's so popular on thisapp, like gets beat by some guy
from Australia, and we're alllike, Yeah, my parents know who
Robert Irwin is.
My nephew who knows who RobertIrwin is.
If you're a millennial, you knowwho Steve Irwin was.
He's very known.
And when I can tell you when forthe not the chronically online

(01:12:30):
people, and I bear and I'm onTikTok all the time, and I
barely knew who Alex Earl was.
People were like, Who is AlexEarl?

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:36):
She's not as never heard of her.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:38):
I became a fan of her dancing, but her fan army
was insane.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:41):
Surprisingly, I'm not on Get Ready With Me TikTok.

SPEAKER_00 (01:12:45):
Her the army, and it's been uh across the board,
fan base is being bad, but herswas terrible.
I ranted about it last week, andthat's why I was totally fine
with Robert winning.
I did not do their littletactic.
I still voted.
I voted for Elaine.
That's you.
Elaine got fifth, notsurprising.
But Jordan beating Dylan.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:04):
That was good.
But you're not gonna do yourwho?
Oh, yeah, who.
Um, I voted for Elaine for tworeasons.
Jordan got third.
One, because uh, you know, likeat that point, that was I knew
Robert did not need my vote.
Yeah, he doesn't need her.
And two, Elaine had the bestfreestyle.
I think I was so her Jordan'swas Jordan's was very good, but

(01:13:24):
I I the concept of of Elaine's,I just really liked it for my
taste.
I thought I liked how shebrought in other people, like
Andy was in there at one point.
I thought that was really cool.
It was like her story, anaudition, getting back in
theater.
It was a Broadway, it wastheater, it was great.
It will go down for me as one ofmy favorites.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:43):
All of the freestyles were very different.
Honestly, I don't I know Robertswas emotional, but I don't
really remember his very much.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:49):
It was fine.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:50):
Alex's Alex again.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:52):
It was a really good passo.

SPEAKER_00 (01:13:53):
She yeah, she is the best dancer of the season.
Not of the season of that wasleft of the finals.
The best dancer of the seasonwent home because y'all booted
her off.
Whatever, whatever.
Whitney Levitt would say who I'dsay was the best dancer of the
season.
But Alex, I don't really, andVal's always struggled to
produce a memorable freestyle.
I love Val.
I think he's a great teacher.
I think he comes up withincredible dances, but I don't
really remember that.

(01:14:14):
Dylan, Danny, Danny, greatchoreographer, but it just
seemed like another it justseemed like another
contemporary.
But Elaine and Jordan, and Ithink Jordan's freestyle being
so good, because I kind of agreewith Carrie Ann.
It was, I think Carrie Ann saidthe best ever, but I don't know
if it was the best.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:28):
Yeah, I don't want to under, I don't want to.
But it was really good.
I don't want to undercut orundersell what Jordan's did
because it was also excellent.
For your style.
For my personal style and taste,I liked Elaine's, but I can
recognize that Jordan's wasoutstanding as well.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:41):
Those were two incredible freestyles, so
different.
I feel like Elaine's definitely,I love the theatrical.
It reminded me of like WhiteChristmas, where they do all the
the like that's what it remindedme of.
And then Jordan, Ezra let Jordanshine in that freestyle, and it
didn't rely on gymnastics likethe whole time.
Like everybody was worried aboutthat.
But I feel like after the weekone, Ezra stopped doing that.

(01:15:02):
It was excellent.
And I think that that by I feellike that helped Jordan get to
third place.
So I'm and that that to me waslike the real contest of the
season because we all knew thatRobert was winning.
Um I think that the onlinediscourse is still crazy.
The fact that now the same armyof fans that when Whitney was
voted off was like, well, oh, sonow it's a popularity contest.

(01:15:23):
I'm like, yeah, like we told youguys last week, the best the
best dancer doesn't always win,and they need to touch grass.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:30):
Um the good news is that they've all said they're
not gonna watch next season, sowe don't have to deal with them.

SPEAKER_00 (01:15:39):
I was so upset that I was not gonna get a Mark
Ballast freestyle, but I did, wedid get one because Call Her
Daddy, which by the way, CallHer Daddy, ABC and Dancing with
the Stars sponsored thisappearance.
Whitney and Mark went on there.
It's a really good episode.
I finally had time to listen tothe whole thing.
They did talk about the insanesocial media bullying and how
crazy it was.
And I think that I even lookback at some of the stuff I

(01:16:02):
might have joked about HilariaBaldwin.
Do I think that Hilaria having,because I think having, you
know, ballroom dance isdifferent than dance experience
should have been on there?
No, but I am I the castingdirector?
No, I'm not.
She was on there.
She probably got it like lookingback, yeah, I think that they
were a little hard on her, and Ithink this season um went a
little off the rails with that.
And I think we could all dobetter as people when it comes

(01:16:24):
to these parasocialrelationships to realize these
are just people.
Even when we rip on Carrie Ann,Carrie Ann doesn't deserve some
of the comments that she notfrom us, but like nobody
deserves death.
No one deserves that, and itreally touches on that, and then
obviously a freestyle that Markand Whitney could have done
would have looked different onlive TV, but they weren't on
live TV.
So Mark was able to create adance, give us something,

(01:16:46):
another I've watched it like somany times.
You watched it, it was prettygood.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:49):
It was very good, yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:50):
And I I was just I was real pleased with that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:53):
The only thing I miss is again, like you said,
seeing it in front of the livecrowd, yeah, in how they would
have produced it on the show.
It would have been different,but I think it would have been I
think it would have been good.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:01):
And I'm glad they got the chance to do that
because and it's not the firsttime that we've seen like Val
and Olivia J did their freestyleonce when they were eliminated.
So it's not the first time thathas happened, but as somebody
who's a big Mark fan, I waspleased with that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:14):
Before we move on, yes, Emma Slater put out the
call on TikTok.
Yes, and this has to be whathappens.
She wants our man, NathanFielder.
Nathan Fielder to be her dancingpartner next season, and it
needs to happen.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:30):
It needs I think that he should be able to do
that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:32):
It needs to be the rehearsal season three, needs to
be about him doing dancing withthe stars.
Oh my god, I just cannot imaginewhat he would do with that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:39):
And then I also think Mr.
Fantasy, aka who we all know, KJAppa, who was the first time.
We're trying to make this Mr.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:44):
Fantasy thing happen and nobody cares.

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:46):
Everybody cares.
He the mate he got he was in theMacy's parade.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:50):
Um, okay, so So we're random high school kids in
band can't like what what's thatmean?

SPEAKER_00 (01:17:56):
Oh my gosh, did you see though, on the downside of
the parade that, like, I guessyou know how the horse is crap?
Yeah, like the person that wassupposed to clean it up in it,
so like the high schoolcheerleaders had to like, and
they just the show must go on.
I can't even they're likeperforming in like the feces.
I'm not kidding.
What what what is this?

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:14):
Okay, well, speaking of animals crapping in the
street, you watched Zootopia 2.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:19):
I did.
Now they're more civilized.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:21):
A little bit more, yeah.
They do wear pants and that.

SPEAKER_00 (01:18:23):
Yes.
I um took my nephew, the sameone I took to see what kid is
becoming my um movie buddy, togo see Zootopia 2.
You like Zootopia 1, so you Iknow you'll want to watch
Zootopia 2 when it comes out onprobably Disney Plus.
Um, this was a good it was agood movie.
It was super cute.
I think it's one of those moviesthat Disney does a good job with

(01:18:43):
that.
Adults, you're gonna like it ifyou're an adult and you're
taking your kids there, oryou're just an adult going like
me, hello.
Um, or little kids are gonna beentertained as well.
It was definitely packed.
We went on Wednesday in the day.
I had the day off, so we wentlike midday.
Every like all the kids were outof school for Thanksgiving
break.
Like, that was the movie to see,and it had just come out that

(01:19:04):
day.
Like Wicked was obviouslycrowded, and there was multiple
theaters, but like our theaterwas a packed and like it was a
line, and you could tell thatpeople that don't often go to
the movies were there that werewaiting in that line.
First day on earth kind ofthing.
Um, but when it comes to themovie, it was I don't want to
say too much what's going on,but Nick and Judy are Nick um
wild and Judy Hops.

(01:19:26):
They have been made partnersfrom the events of the first
Zootopia, which obviously I'mnot gonna explain the plot of
that, so go watch that.
And it's just you know, they'rethey're still good partners,
they're a good team, but likewith any partnership, there's
issues to work through.
Um stacked cast, by the way.
So we have like a whole othervillain, basically the whole
plot is um the snakes aren'tyou've never seen snakes in

(01:19:48):
Zootopia, and there's a reasonwhy.
And they kind of talk about likethe story about how Zootopia was
created, and um, it kind of isagain like the first one kind of
reflected real life, real worldhistoric events.
This one sort of does the samething.
Um it's another metaphor onthat, which again a child is
probably gonna go over their achild's head, but I think the

(01:20:10):
message hopefully the kids willstill get the good message of
how it resolves itself.
I think it's probably a sequelthat didn't need to be made.
Um but it's not a bad sequeleither, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:21):
Add it to the pile.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:22):
Um I definitely think, you know, if you're
wanting to save money, like youcould probably wait to go see
this one on Disney Plus.
Um it's set it does set up forthe stay all the way through,
just like a Marvel movie.
Stay clear through those creditsbecause it does set up Zootopia
3.
But it was cute, it was fun, Iliked it.
Um so if you do want to go takeyour kids and do something on

(01:20:42):
Christmas break and you can'tstand having them in the house
with you, this would be a goodmovie to see.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:46):
But if you're stuck in the house with them and you
have to watch one thing, I thinkI highly recommend you watch
Star Trek 4.
Even with the profanity DoubleDumbass on you.
Um yeah.

(01:21:07):
Alright, we watched Star TrekFour.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:08):
I still don't know the name of this movie because
The Voyage Home, the one withthe whales.
Okay, because even my dad waslike, I was telling dad that
every year on Daniel's birthdayI agree to watch a Star Trek
movie.
So this year was Star Trek 4,and my dad's a big trekie, and I
was telling him about it.
He's like, the one with thewhales.
So even the trekys call this theone with the whales.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:26):
Yeah, that is not we do that is not said with any
like it's not meant meant to bemean.
It's it is endearment.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:33):
Um dad was like, yeah, I saw that in theaters.
So this would have been thefirst one that we were alive
for.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:39):
Yeah, 1986.

SPEAKER_00 (01:21:40):
We just aged ourselves, cool.
Um this of all the Star Trekmovies you've had me watch, this
was the best one so far.
I thought that might be thecase.
A lot more lighthearted, it wasfunny.
I felt like I could really seeKirk's Riz on display.
Kirk is like such a characterthat it's he's like probably

(01:22:02):
like the definition of Rizbecause he's not trying to
that's what I my wholeperception of Captain Kirk was
based on those stupid KelvinUniverse movies, and maybe it
was different because he didn'thave a daddy in those, but like
because I do think Chris Pine'sa decent actor.
I see that is a JJ Abramsproblem.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:20):
I think that's a good way to rationalize it, but
what I really think happened wasJJ wrote Kirk in those movies
based off the stereotypical Kirkin media that doesn't actually
exist if you watch the sourcematerial.

SPEAKER_00 (01:22:32):
He's just you either have it or you don't, and he has
it.
And we get to see that more.
We get to see it was more oflike a mess around with the
three friends.
I thought it was gonna bebecause Spock's once again like
coming to turn he's getting hismemories back from the events of
the last movie.
And I thought it was gonna besuper annoying as Spock tried to
figure out his human side, and Iwas like, oh my gosh, how many
times do I have to see Spock dothis?
But it was actually done reallywell.

(01:22:55):
Uh this was clearly, I don'tknow what else you want me to
say about it.
It was the best one that I'veseen.
And like canonically with theother movies, like the full
circle moment, they did tie thatin about like Kirk's journey of
of the of how he's aged and notfeeling useful and finding this
place in the world.
They actually nicely circle backto that.
So I'll say good things aboutit.

(01:23:16):
It was and it was it was a lotmore funny than like the
seriousness of the other ones.
And I think I really like what'shis name, Chekhov, what he was
like, I need plans to the likeOh when they're trying to find
the the the nuclear Yeah, thenuclear vessel wessels.
Wessels?
Yeah, just like randomly askingjust for the time period.

(01:23:36):
Annie Camden from I think hername's Catherine Hicks from
Seventh Heaven.
This must have been probably herfirst role.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:43):
She's like, I know we're deep into the podcast
here, and we probably got likethree people still hanging on to
listen to this, but we addedanother uneaten food to the list
of uneaten of movie uneatenfoods.
Remember, we've got Kevin's macand cheese, and now we've got
the pizza.

SPEAKER_00 (01:23:58):
The pizza at the restaurant.
I like how she just decides,yeah, I'm done, dumb done with
this timeline.
I'm looking into the future, andI'm gonna not.
I mean, she does mention at theend that she's gonna take
classes to try to get caught upto their tech.
They like bring the I stilldon't really understand why the
whales were the catalyst of it,but I don't think that's the
point.
It's not so I like Fox women inthe Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:21):
Uh it's one of my favorites, it's not my top
favorite, it's probably my thirdfavorite.
Um Dr.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:26):
McCoy once again delivering with some fantastic
one-liners.
Of course, always.
What's your favorite again?

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:31):
The sixth one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:33):
I thought you said nobody liked the sixth one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:35):
Nobody likes the fifth one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:24:36):
Oh, the fifth one.
This is not I keep gettingconfused.
This is the fourth one.
Why do I feel like I would likethe fifth one if you said it's
just a big message?

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:43):
I watched the fifth one um a couple of years ago,
and it had been the first timeI'd watched it in a while, and I
honestly I didn't I like it alot more than I think most
people do, because while thestory is if you had a problem
with the weirdness of this storyin four, just pr just don't go
into the fifth one evenpretending like there's a story

(01:25:04):
because it's so is it like theSex in the City movies where at
one point it was just themhanging out?
But this movie Is that is thatkind of how it is?
Like the plot goes away.
Is is particularly Spock andKirk and McCoy getting into
shenanigans.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:18):
Oh, and I see it now.
It's the love story is Spock andKirk.
The way Kirk looks at Spock withsuch admiration, and I think
like McCoy is just like thefriend, the best friend.
But yeah, that's you guys areright on that.
That is the that's the lovestory.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:36):
I will say, you know, she did say to me after
the fourth one was over.
Oh my gosh.
I could probably watch the fifthone sooner than a year.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25:43):
I'll watch it on November 28th.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:46):
2026.
Okay.
Alright, everybody, that's aboutall we've got for you this week.
I know that we last week and theweek before that said, hey, we
were getting ready to watchSpecial Forces finale.
We have We did not.
A lot of stuff has been goingon.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:00):
We have been We had to watch Little John on that
float, guys.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:04):
We had to watch Little John.
Stranger Things took up a lot ofour time.
We had to watch a Star Trek.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:10):
So we'll get around to it.
Like I said, we probably got onemore regular episode this year,
next week, before we kind of gooff on a little bit of a break
with throwing some super cuts upthere.
Um, you said you've got a notehere, Slomwam.
What's that in that?

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:24):
Lives of Mormon Wives season three reunion is
airing this Thursday, so I'llhave that to talk about next
week.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:30):
Uh speaking of dirty soda, I have discovered a dirty
soda I am going to try.
It's the opposite direction,though, is I'm gonna take um I
like how you're like, we gottastart wrapping this up.
Zero and some espresso.
Espresso.
Espresso and a little bit ofcream and see what that does.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:50):
Okay, well you can drink it while we watch the
reunion episode.
I'm not watching that.
Several uh listeners, by theway, I think we talked about
this a little bit last week,recommended that I watch that
tell me lie show on Hulu.
Y'all must know me because uh Idid finish season one.
Uh diabolical, so good.
I will talk to you guys allabout my thoughts on this

(01:27:11):
incredible show when Iultimately finish season two,
because I know we got seasonthree coming in January, but you
you guys were right.
I don't know why I didn't listenearlier.
Uh this show, it's it's a you uhyou probably hear me screaming
when I'm like, What?
It's it's that good.
I haven't I was like, oh, I feelsomething again with the show.
Like, I don't really like any ofthe characters, I'll tell you

(01:27:34):
that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:34):
But uh speaking of feeling something, you did feel
something.
I know it because I was lookingright at you when it happened in
Star Trek 4, when he's gettinghis demotion, and they go, We're
demoting you down to CaptainKirk.
You got a smile on your face,and you got excited hearing
Captain Kirk.

SPEAKER_00 (01:27:49):
Because it bugged me, them calling him Admiral.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:52):
And that moment, what but more important, with
your point about that fullcircle moment, it paid off the
trilogy of movies that you hadseen and brought it back to what
Kirk was with.
He needs to be on the ship,doing his thing, out there doing
missions and saving the galaxy.

SPEAKER_00 (01:28:08):
All right, with that note, live on and prosper.

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