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November 8, 2025 47 mins

Donald Trump fired him on national television, but he still went on to build Nevada’s second-largest real estate brokerage with 585 agents. In this episode, John Gafford shows us how to escape the drift, turn pressure into fuel, and build a business that compounds. We go from his wild story appearing on the hit show, The Apprentice, to the systems he uses today to flip luxury homes, recruit at scale, and own every piece of the real estate transaction so profit doesn’t leak. John explains why emotional intelligence beats raw intelligence in sales, how to evaluate risk so bold doesn’t become reckless, and the leadership mindset that makes top talent want to run with you. We also unpack his book Escaping the Drift and the tough love framework that pulls you out of autopilot and back into intentional growth. If you feel like you’re moving but not advancing, overwhelmed by hustle with no clear plan, or stuck in the same cycle year after year, this conversation hands you the roadmap forward. You can pick up a copy of John's book by clicking the link in the show notes. https://www.amazon.com/Escaping-Drift-Make-World-Happen/dp/B0F7GGQ8V4


 

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