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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the
Deep Dive.
Today we're tackling somethingpretty fundamental.
It affects every decision youmake, whether you realize it or
not.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Those sneaky mental
shortcuts called cognitive
biases.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh, this is one of my
favorite topics.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
We've got an awesome
YouTube video from Escaping
Ordinary breaking down 21 commonthinking errors Wow, 21.
Think of this Deep Dive asgetting a backstage pass to your
own brain.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We're going to see
the machinery that drives our
choices.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
And maybe learn how
to tweak it for the better.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I love that analogy.
It's like it's like becomingaware of the code running in the
background.
Right, so you're not justblindly following instructions.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Exactly so to kick
things off, let's talk about a
classic cognitive dissonance.
Okay, cognitive dissonance isthat feeling of mental
discomfort you get when you holdtwo conflicting beliefs.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It's like that
Aesop's fable with the fox and
the sour grapes.
Right, the fox can't reach thegrapes, uh-huh.
So to resolve that mentaltension, he decides they were
sour anyway.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Instead of admitting
defeat, he shifts his belief to
feel better about it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's like when you
don't get that job you really
wanted.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
It's easier to tell
yourself the company wasn't a
good fit.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Then to face the
possibility you weren't the best
candidate.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah.
Or think about people whocriticize wealth but secretly
desire it themselves.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Ooh, interesting.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Talk about a mental
tug of war.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
The key takeaway here
is that dissonance creates
anxiety.
Yes, and we instinctively tryto reduce that anxiety Right,
even if it means distorting ourperception.
Exactly, it affects everythingfrom our personal relationships
to our views on social issues.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's wild how much
our brains try to protect our
egos, even if it means bendingreality a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Absolutely.
Speaking of skewed perceptions,let's move on to the spotlight
effect.
Okay, you know that feeling ofbeing constantly observed and
judged.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Like when you're late
for a meeting and convinced
everyone's staring at you.
Oh yeah, or when you trip andspill your coffee in a crowded
place.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
We tend to
overestimate how much attention
others are paying to us.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
In reality, people
are usually too wrapped up in
their own lives.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
To notice our every
move.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But understanding.
This can be so freeing.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It can help you feel
less self-conscious in social
situations.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So that time I
completely flubbed my lines in
school play Probably not as manypeople noticed as I thought.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Right Now, buckle up
for a sneaky one.
The anchoring effect.
This is where that first pieceof information you get, even if
it's totally random, becomesyour anchor for making judgments
.
Video gives a great example.
Imagine being asked if thetallest redwood tree is taller
or shorter than 1,200 feet.
Even though that number mightbe totally arbitrary, it becomes
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your anchor and your subsequentguess about the tree's actual
height will be influenced by it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
It's like those sales
tactics where they show you an
inflated original price to makea discount seem more appealing.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh, totally.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Or when a car
salesperson starts negotiations
with a high number, anchoringyou to that price point.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
This is happening all
the time.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
In stores online,
even during salary negotiations.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
The key is to be
aware of those anchors and to
set your own whenever possible,exactly so.
Don't be afraid to challengethose initial numbers and come
in with your own realisticassessment.
I like that.
Speaking of how firstimpressions can be deceiving,
let's talk about the halo effect.
Okay, this is where yourinitial impression of someone,
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based on just a few traits,creates a halo that can obscure
their other qualities.
The video used the example oftwo people, alan and Ben, with
identical traits.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But listed in
different orders.
Okay, people consistently ratedAlan as more favorable because
his positive traits were listedfirst.
It's amazing how quickly ourminds create narratives.
We form an overall impressionbased on limited information.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And that initial halo
can color how we see everything
else.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's like when you
start dating someone new and
they seem perfect, thoserose-colored glasses where even
their flaws seem endearing.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Exactly.
Or think about Bernie Madoff,oh yeah, who had a stellar
reputation.
That halo of success blindedpeople to the warning signs of
his massive Ponzi scheme.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So, whether it's a
new relationship or a business
deal, it's crucial to lookbeyond those surface impressions
.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Don't let that
initial sparkle blind you to
potential red flags.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah and remember.
This works both ways.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Oh right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
A negative first
impression can be just as
powerful.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Even if it's based on
a misunderstanding or just one
negative trait.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So those first few
minutes of a job interview
really can make or break things.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
It's a good reminder
to be mindful of how those first
impressions might beinfluencing your judgments.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Both for yourself,
yes, and the people you
encounter.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Now let's flip a coin
and explore the gambler's
fallacy.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
This is the belief
that past events can influence
the outcome.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Right.
Of random independent events,Like if you flip a coin and get
heads three times in a row, youmight think tails is due next.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
It feels like there
should be some cosmic balancing
force at play.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
But the truth is,
each coin flip is a completely
independent event.
The coin has no memory.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I've totally fallen
for this one, like when I'm
playing roulette and see astreak of red.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I start thinking
black is bound to come up soon.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Casinos exploit this
fallacy all the time.
They even display recent spinsto create that illusion of
predictability.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
But it's not just
casinos.
Think about multiple choicetests.
Oh yeah, if you've answered Cfor the last three questions,
you might hesitate to choose Cagain, even though each question
is independent.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Or imagine a judge
granting asylum.
If they've approved the lasttwo applications, they might be
subconsciously less likely toapprove the next one, as if they
need to balance their decisions.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
The key is to
remember that past outcomes have
zero bearing.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
On the probability of
independent events.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Focus on the
probabilities at hand.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And don't get caught
up in those tempting illusions
of patterns.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Now are you ready for
a bias that explains why we
sometimes make those impulsebuys?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Hit me with it.
I have a feeling I'm verysusceptible to this one.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, let's see.
It's called the contrast effectand it highlights how our
perceptions are relative.
Okay, something could seem moreor less appealing, depending on
what it's compared to.
The video uses the example ofthose fancy leather car seats.
If you're already spending$80,000 on a car, an extra
$3,000 for the upgrade mightseem like a drop in the bucket.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
But if you saw those
same seats on their own with a
$3,000 price tag, you'd probablythink twice.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It's all about
context.
We judge value based oncomparisons which can lead to
some questionable purchases.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's like those
walking 10 minutes to save $10.
Scenarios.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
We're more likely to
walk for a discount on groceries
than on a $1,000 suit, eventhough it's the same amount of
money saved.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's so true.
I've definitely done thatbefore.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
So the next time
you're tempted by a deal, take a
step back and consider theabsolute value, not just how it
compares to something else.
That's a good point.
Now let's talk about a biasthat's especially relevant in
today's world Confirmation bias.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
This is our tendency
to seek out information that
confirms what we already believe, even if those beliefs are
flawed.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's comfortable to
stick with what we know.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It's easier.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
We're wired to
protect our existing beliefs.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
It's like creating an
echo chamber online.
Oh yeah, you see the sameopinions repeated over and over.
Right, reinforcing yourviewpoint.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
While shutting out
opposing perspectives.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And with personalized
content and social media
algorithms.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
It's easier than ever
to curate a world that caters
to our existing biases.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
This makes it so
important to actively seek out
diverse viewpoints.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
And challenge our own
assumptions.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We need to be willing
to think gray, recognizing that
truth is often nuanced andcomplex.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Confirmation.
Bias is a powerful force, butwith conscious effort we can
mitigate its influence.
It's about stepping outside ourcomfort zones and engaging with
ideas that challenge ourbeliefs.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Even if it makes us a
little uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Speaking of
encountering new ideas, have you
ever heard of theButter-Meinhof phenomenon?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
It sounds kind of
familiar, but I can't quite
place it.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's that weird
experience where you learn about
something new.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And then suddenly you
start seeing it everywhere.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Like when you buy a
new car and suddenly notice the
same model all over town.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Or you learn a new
word and it starts popping up in
every book you read.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It feels like the
universe is conspiring to make
you notice this thing.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Right.
Our brains are constantlyfiltering and prioritizing
information based on what'srelevant to us at any given
moment.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Now let's shift gears
to something that might keep
you up at night.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
The Zeigarnik effect.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh, this one rings a
bell.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's that nagging
feeling of unfinished business
right.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Exactly.
It's the tendency to rememberincomplete tasks more vividly
than completed ones.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's like our brains
are constantly reminding us to
finish what we started.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I totally get this.
I replay unfinished tasks in myhead, especially before bed.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's like my mind
won't let me rest until I've
checked everything off my list.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
The fascinating thing
is it's not just about
completion Right, it's alsoabout having a plan.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Simply writing down a
plan to complete a task can
alleviate that mental burden.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So those to-do lists
aren't just for organization,
they're also a mental healthtool.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
They help externalize
those nagging thoughts and give
you a sense of control overyour tasks.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's a powerful
strategy for reducing stress and
improving focus.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Speaking of feeling
overwhelmed, let's dive into the
paradox of choice.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
The idea that more
options aren't always a good
thing.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Especially when it
comes to decision making.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
The video highlights
an experiment where a
supermarket offered 24 types ofjam one day and only six the
next.
People were actually 10 timesmore likely to buy jam when
faced with fewer options.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Too many choices can
be paralyzing.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Exactly, it leads to
decision fatigue.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Analysis, paralysis.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And less satisfaction
with our choices.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
We second guess
ourselves, worry about making
the wrong decision and getcaught up in the opportunity
cost of what we might be missingout on.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I've definitely
experienced this with online
dating.
Swiping through endlessprofiles can be exhausting.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's like the more
choices we have, the harder it
is to commit to one.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
The key takeaway is
that limiting our options can
actually lead to betterdecisions.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And greater
satisfaction.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's about being
intentional with our choices and
focusing on what truly matters.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
So maybe less is more
after all.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
We've only scratched
the surface of these 21 mind
traps, but it's already clearhow much they influence our
everyday thinking.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Stay tuned for part
two of this deep dive.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
We'll explore even
more of these fascinating
cognitive biases.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
I'm ready.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
We're just getting
started.
Welcome back to the Deep Dive.
We're continuing our journeyinto the fascinating world of
mind traps.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
We've already
uncovered some pretty sneaky
biases.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Like how a simple
first impression can create a
halo Right that colors ourperception of someone.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
It's powerful.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Or how that nagging
feeling of unfinished business,
the Zeigarnik effect, can beeased just by writing down a
plan.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It really can.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
And who knew that
having too many choices could
actually make us less happy?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Sometimes yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Today we're diving
into even more of these
cognitive quirks Using thatawesome YouTube video from
Escaping Ordinary is our guide.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Are you ready to see
what other mental shortcuts our
brains are taking?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Absolutely.
Let's jump right in with theavailability heuristic.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
The availability
heuristic okay.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
This one's all about
how easily we can recall
something, which then influenceshow likely we think it is to
occur.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
So it's kind of like
if it's easy to imagine it must
be common.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Right the
availability heuristic can make
us overestimate the likelihoodof vivid or memorable events,
while underestimating the risksof less dramatic but potentially
more frequent occurrences.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
So like plane crashes
right.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Exactly.
If you just saw a news reportabout a plane crash, you might
suddenly feel anxious aboutflying.
Oh yeah, even thoughstatistically it's still
incredibly safe.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's a good reminder
to look at the actual data and
statistics.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Rather than relying
on gut feelings or anecdotal
evidence.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Absolutely,
especially in today's world
where we're bombarded withsensationalized news stories.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Speaking of skewed
perceptions, let's talk about
the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh, this one's a
classic.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Isn't it about people
overestimating their abilities?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
The less you know,
the more confident you are.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You nailed it.
It's that cognitive bias wherepeople with low competence in a
particular area tend tooverestimate their skills, while
those with high competenceoften underestimate themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's like that saying
a little knowledge is a
dangerous thing.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Exactly.
You know just enough to bedangerous, but not enough to
recognize your own limitations.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I remember in college
there's this guy in my
philosophy class.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Who thought he had
all the answers.
No, I had a guy in myphilosophy class who thought he
had all the answers.
He'd dominate every discussion,but his arguments were often
shallow and riddled with logicalfallacies.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He was so confident
in his limited knowledge that he
couldn't see the flaws in hisreasoning.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
The Dunning-Kruger
effect can be tough to spot in
ourselves.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It can.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Because it requires a
level of self-awareness that's
true that we might not have inthat particular area.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, it's a good
reminder to be open to feedback.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
To seek out mentors
and experts and to continuously
challenge our own assumptions.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
There's always more
to learn, no matter how much we
think we know.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And on the flip side,
if you're struggling with
something new, don't be too hardon yourself.
Everyone starts somewhere.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Now get ready for a
bias that sounds a bit
paradoxical, it's a backfireeffect.
Backfire effect.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
This is when
presenting someone with evidence
that contradicts their beliefsactually strengthens their
original belief.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh no.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Even if it's
demonstrably false.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's like the more
you try to reason with someone,
the more entrenched they becomein their position.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It's incredibly
frustrating.
Have you ever experienced this?
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Oh, absolutely.
I remember trying to have aconversation with a relative
about climate change.
I presented scientific data,expert opinions, everything.
But the more evidence I shared,the more resistant they became.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
It's like their
beliefs were part of their
identity.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And challenging those
beliefs felt like a personal
attack.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
The backfire effect
highlights how deeply our
beliefs can be intertwined withour sense of self.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
So how do you
approach these conversations?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's a great
question.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Without triggering
the backfire effect.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's definitely a
delicate balance.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
The video suggests
that directly attacking
someone's beliefs.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, can make them
defensive, yeah, and less
receptive to new information.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
So what do you do?
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Instead, try to find
common ground.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Build rapport Uh-huh
and present information in a way
that doesn't feel threatening.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It's also crucial to
be patient.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And to understand
that changing deeply held
beliefs takes time.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
It's about planting
seeds of doubt.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Rather than trying to
force a complete shift in
perspective.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
That's a great point.
It's about meeting people wherethey are and nudging them
towards critical thinking ratherthan trying to bulldoze their
existing beliefs.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, now let's talk
about a bias that can lead to
some serious spending regrets.
Oh the sunk cost fallacy.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh, I have a feeling
I'm very susceptible to this one
.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Isn't it about
holding on to something, yeah,
even when it's no longer servingus, just because we've already
invested so much?
Speaker 2 (16:04):
You got it.
It's that tendency to continueinvesting in something.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Time, money, effort.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Based on the
resources we've already put in.
Yeah, even if it's no longerrational or beneficial.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's like staying in
a dead end job Right or a toxic
relationship, just becauseyou've already invested so many
years.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Or continuing to pour
money into fixing a car that's
constantly breaking down.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
You feel this need to
justify our past investments.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Even if it means
throwing good money after bad.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
It's hard to admit we
made a mistake Right, or that
things aren't working out theway we hoped.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I totally get that.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
I've definitely been
there.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
The key is to
recognize the sunk cost fallacy.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And to shift your
focus from the past to the
future.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Ask yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
If I were starting
from scratch today, would I
still make this decision.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's such a
powerful question.
It helps detach from theemotional baggage.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It does.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And make a more
objective assessment.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Now let's move on to
a bias that's often used in
marketing.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, the decoy
effect, decoy effect this one
sounds intriguing.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
It's a tactic where a
third, less appealing option is
introduced to make one of theoriginal options seem more
attractive.
It's like a strategicdistraction to nudge you towards
a specific choice.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The video gives a
great example.
Imagine you're at the movietheater, okay, and there are two
sizes of popcorn small for $5and large for $8.
Many people might choose thesmall, but if they introduce a
medium size for $7.50, suddenlythe large seems like a much
better deal.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It makes the large
popcorn look like a bargain
Right, even though it's stillthe most expensive option.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's incredible how
easily our perceptions of value
can be manipulated.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
It is, this is
happening all the time.
With subscription plans.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Product bundles, you
name it.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Once you're aware of
the decoy effect, you can start
to spot it everywhere.
That's true.
Speaking of how things arepresented, let's talk about the
framing effect.
Okay, this one highlights howthe way information is presented
.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right Framed yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Can influence our
choices.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Even if the
underlying facts are the same.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
For example, imagine
you're told a medical procedure
has a 90% survival rate.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
That sounds pretty
reassuring, right?
But if you're told, the sameprocedure has a 10 percent
mortality rate.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
It suddenly feels
much riskier.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Even though it's the
same information.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Wow, that's a
powerful example.
Just changing a few words cancompletely shift our perspective
.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
The framing effect is
used everywhere, from
advertising to politicalcampaigns.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Being aware of it
helps you see through the spin
Absolutely and make decisionsbased on the actual facts, not
just how they're presented.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Now let's explore a
bias that can make communication
tricky.
Okay, the curse of knowledge.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Curse of knowledge
this one sounds a bit ominous.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
It's about the
difficulty of remembering what
it was like not to knowsomething.
Oh yeah, Once we have knowledge, it's hard to imagine what it
was like not to know something.
Once we have knowledge, it'shard to imagine what it was like
before we knew it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Which can make it
tough to explain things to
others who don't share thatknowledge.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's like trying to
teach someone to ride a bike,
right.
It seems so simple to you now,yeah, but you forget how
confusing and challenging it waswhen you were first learning.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
This bias can lead to
frustration in teaching,
mentoring and even everydayconversations.
We might overestimate how muchothers know or assume they
understand concepts that areactually quite complex.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It's a good reminder
to be patient, to break down
information into smaller chunksand to check for understanding
along the way.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's about putting
yourself in the other person's
shoes Right and remembering whatit was like to be a beginner.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Now let's get a
little gloomy with the
negativity bias Right Ourtendency to pay more attention
to, and remember more vividly,negative experiences and
information than positive ones.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It's like that.
One bad review on Yelp.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That sticks with you
more than all the positive ones.
It's like that one bad reviewon Yelp.
Oh yeah, that sticks with youmore than all the positive ones.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Or dwelling on a
critical comment from your boss
Right, even though you'vereceived tons of praise.
Our brains are wired to bevigilant for threats and dangers
.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
So we naturally
prioritize negative information.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It's an evolutionary
adaptation that helped us
survive in the past, but intoday's world it can lead to
unnecessary stress and anxiety.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So how do we combat
this negativity bias?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
It's about actively
seeking out positive experiences
and information.
It's about savoring the goodmoments, practicing gratitude
and consciously focusing onwhat's going well in our lives.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's about choosing
to see the glass half full.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Even when it feels
like the world is throwing
negativity our way.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
That's a great point.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
It's about being
mindful of our mental diet.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
And making sure we're
not over consuming negativity.
Exactly Now, let's explore howour memories can be a bit
selective.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
With the peak end
rule the peak end rule.
This one's all about how wetend to judge an experience Okay
, Based on how we felt at itspeak, the most intense moment
and at its end, rather thanconsidering the entire
experience as a whole.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So it's not about the
average level of enjoyment,
right, but those specificmoments, yes, of peak intensity
and the final impression.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
The video uses the
example of a vacation.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
If you had an amazing
meal on the last night of your
trip, even if the rest of thevacation was just average,
you're more likely to rememberthe entire trip favorably.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Or think about a
concert.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
If the last song was
a showstopper.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Even if some of the
earlier songs weren't as good,
you'll probably walk awayfeeling like the whole concert
was amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's fascinating how
our memories can be so selective
.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
It's like our brains
create a highlight reel of
experiences.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Focusing on those
peak moments and the ending.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
And this has
implications for how we design
experiences.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Whether it's a
product, a service or even
presentation.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
We should aim to
create those memorable peak
moments and ensure a positiveending.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That's a great
insight.
Yeah, it's about understandingthe power of those key moments.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And using them to
shape the overall experience.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Now get ready for a
bias that might sound a bit too
optimistic.
Okay, the optimism bias.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Optimism bias Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
This is our tendency
to overestimate the likelihood
of positive events happening tous Right, while underestimating
the likelihood of negativeevents.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
It's like thinking it
won't happen to me.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Even when the odds
are stacked against us.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
We see this all the
time.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
People who
underestimate their risk of
getting sick Right, having anaccident or even going bankrupt.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
While a certain level
of optimism can be beneficial,
yeah.
An excessive optimism bias canlead to risky behavior.
It can and poor planning.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It's like not saving
enough for retirement Right it
can and poor planning.
It's like not saving enough forretirement.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Right.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Because we think
we'll always be healthy and
employed, or not takingnecessary precautions?
Yeah, because we believe we'reinvincible.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's a good reminder
to balance our optimism with a
dose of realism.
It is we need to acknowledgepotential challenges.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And plan accordingly.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
It's not about being
pessimistic, but about being
prepared.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
It's about finding
that sweet spot between hoping
for the best and planning forthe worst.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Now let's dive into a
bias that's particularly
relevant in our digital age theGoogle effect, also known as
digital amnesia.
This one's all about how we'reless likely to remember
information that we know we caneasily access online.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
It's like outsourcing
our memories to Google.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
We've become so
reliant on search engines as an
external memory bank that it canimpact our ability to recall
information on our own.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I'm definitely guilty
of this.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I used to know so
many phone numbers by heart.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
But now I can barely
remember my own.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It makes you wonder
how this constant reliance on
technology is affecting ourbrains in the long run.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
It's an area of
ongoing research.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It is.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
But it definitely
raises some important questions.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Like, are we losing
our ability to retain
information?
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Are we becoming too
dependent on external sources?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
It highlights the
importance of engaging in
activities that strengthen ourcognitive abilities, like
reading, learning new skills andhaving meaningful conversations
.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
We shouldn't let our
reliance on technology atrophy
our own mental capacities.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
It's about finding a
balance between using technology
as a tool and maintaining ourown cognitive fitness.
That's about finding a balance,yes, between using technology
as a tool.
Right and maintaining our owncognitive fitness, that's a
great point.
It's like with any muscle.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
We need to exercise
our brains to keep them sharp.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Now let's get a
little rebellious with reactance
theory.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Reactance theory.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
This one's about how
we react Right when we feel our
freedom or autonomy is beingthreatened.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
We tend to push back
against perceived restrictions.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Even if those
restrictions are in our best
interest.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
It's like the
forbidden fruit effect.
Okay, the more you tell someonethey can't do something Right,
the more they want to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
We see this all the
time with kids.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
But adults are
susceptible to it too, right,
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think about those limited timeoffer for exclusive access
promotions.
Oh yeah, theory can help us bemore mindful of how we respond
to rules and restrictions.
It can also help us be morepersuasive by framing
suggestions in a way thatempowers rather than restricts.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
That's a great
insight.
It's about understanding thepsychology of persuasion Right
and using it ethically.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Now let's talk about
a bias that can make it hard to
discern truth from falsehood.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
The illusory truth
effect.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Illusory truth effect
.
Illusory truth effect.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
This one's about how
repeating a statement, even if
it's false, makes it seem morebelievable over time.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So if you hear
something enough times, you
start to believe it Right, evenif there's no evidence to
support it.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
It's like
brainwashing.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It is a powerful
phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
And it's often
exploited.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
And propaganda and
misinformation campaigns.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
The more we're
exposed to a claim, the more
familiar it becomes.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
And our brains tend
to equate familiarity with truth
.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
This makes it crucial
to be critical of the
information we consume.
Yes, to check sources Right andto be wary of claims that are
repeated without evidence.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Just because you hear
something, a lot doesn't make
it true.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Now more than ever,
it's important to develop strong
media literacy skills.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And to be discerning
consumers of information.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
We can't just
passively absorb everything we
see and hear.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Right.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
We need to actively
engage with information and
evaluate its credibility.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Now let's wrap up
this part of our deep dive with
the clustering illusion.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
This one's about our
tendency to see patterns in
random events, even when no realpattern exists.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
It's like seeing
faces in clouds or finding
meaning in coincidences.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Our brains are wired
to seek patterns.
It's how we make sense of theworld.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Our brains are wired
to seek patterns.
Uh-huh, it's how we make senseof the world, but sometimes we
see them where they don't existRight, leading to superstitious
beliefs or conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I've definitely
fallen for this one.
I remember once I flipped acoin 10 times and got heads
eight times in a row.
Oh wow, I started to think thecoin was rigged.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
But statistically it
was just a random fluctuation.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's a good reminder
that randomness is a natural
part of life.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
And to avoid jumping
to conclusions Right Based on
perceived patterns.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Just because things
happen in a certain sequence
doesn't mean there's a deepermeaning or a hidden hand at play
.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
We've covered so much
ground today.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
A lot of information.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
From the availability
heuristic to the clustering
illusion.
Yes, and it's clear that ourbrains are constantly taking
these mental shortcuts.
It's incredible how many waysour thinking can be subtly
influenced by these biases.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
We've got a few more
mind traps to explore in part
three.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So stay tuned for the
final leg of our deep dive.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Sounds good.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
We'll uncover even
more fascinating insights.
I'm ready and discuss how wecan use this knowledge to make
more informed decisions.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Welcome back to our
final deep dive into the world
of mind traps.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We've uncovered so
many fascinating biases already,
from the availability heuristicto the clustering illusion.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It's amazing how
these subtle mental shortcuts
can shape our perceptions anddecisions Without us even
realizing it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It really is, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Today we're using
that awesome YouTube video from
Escaping Ordinary to explore thelast few mind traps on our list
and discuss how we can use thisknowledge to become more
mindful thinkers.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Are you ready to wrap
up this mental adventure?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Absolutely.
Let's jump right in with theauthority bias.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Authority bias, all
right.
This one highlights ourtendency to give more weight to
the opinions and actions ofauthority figures, even when
those opinions might be flawed.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
So like just because
someone's in a position of power
doesn't necessarily meanthey're right.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Exactly.
It's like the famous Milgramexperiment, where participants
were willing to administerelectric shocks just because a
person in a lab coat told themto.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
We're conditioned
from a young age to respect and
obey authority Right, which canbe beneficial in many situations
, right.
But it can also make us blindto potential problems.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Or unethical behavior
.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I've definitely
experienced this in the
workplace.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Sometimes it's hard
to speak up or challenge a
decision, even when you knowit's not the best course of
action.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Especially when it
comes from someone in a position
of power.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So it's almost like
we need to be aware of that bias
and be willing to questionauthority.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Absolutely.
The authority bias reminds usto question authority, to think
critically and to trust our ownjudgment, even when it goes
against the grain.
It's not about beingdisrespectful, but about being
discerning and using our ownreasoning abilities.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
That's a great point.
It's about finding that balancebetween respecting authority
and thinking for ourselves.
Now let's talk about a biasthat demonstrates the incredible
power of belief the placeboeffect.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Oh, the placebo
effect.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I love this one, this
is all about how our
expectations and beliefs caninfluence our physical and
mental experiences, even in theabsence of any real treatment.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Right, like those
studies where people report
feeling better after taking asugar pill simply because they
believe it's a real medication.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, the power of
the mind is incredible, so it's
like our thoughts and beliefscan actually impact our health.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yes, the placebo
effect shows us the power of the
mind-body connection.
Our thoughts and beliefs canhave a profound impact on our
health and well-being.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
It's almost like, if
you believe you can, you're
halfway there.
Exactly, it's almost like ifyou believe you can, you're
halfway there.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Exactly Our mindset
can make a huge difference in
how we experience the world andhow we respond to challenges.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
That's a powerful
insight.
It highlights the importance ofcultivating a positive mindset
and harnessing the power ofbelief.
Now let's move on to a biasthat can make us cling to things
a little too tightly theendowment effect.
Endowment effect Okay, thisone's all about how we tend to
overvalue things we own simplybecause we own them.
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We place a higher value onsomething once it becomes ours.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It's like that old
coffee mug you never use but
can't bear to part with oh yeah,Because it's been sitting in
your cupboard for years Totally.
Or holding on to clothes thatdon't fit anymore just because
you spent a lot of money on them.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, I'm totally
guilty of that.
It's like those items becomeinfused with sentimental value,
even if they're not actuallythat useful or valuable.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So how do we overcome
that?
How do we make more rationaldecisions about the things we
own?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, the endowment
effect can make us irrational
decision makers, clinging tothings we don't need or
overpricing items we're tryingto sell Right.
It's a good reminder to beobjective about the value of
things, both what we own andwhat we're considering acquiring
.
It's about detaching from thatsense of ownership and making
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decisions based on logic andpracticality.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's a great point.
It's about separating ouremotions from the equation.
Now for our final mind trap.
We have the hyperbolicdiscounting bias.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Hyperbolic
discounting.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
This one's about our
tendency to prefer smaller
immediate rewards over largerdelayed rewards.
We tend to discount the valueof future rewards, even if
they're objectively better.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Right.
It's like choosing to watch TVnow instead of studying for that
exam next week, even thoughstudying will lead to a better
grade in the long run.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Or indulging in that
delicious dessert today, knowing
it might set us back on ourfitness goals tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Exactly.
We're wired for instantgratification, which can make it
hard to delay gratification andmake choices that benefit our
future selves.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
It's a constant
battle between our present and
future selves.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Right, it really is,
and understanding the hyperbolic
discounting bias can help usmake more mindful choices that
align with our long-term goals.
It's about finding strategiesto bridge that gap between what
we want now and what we know isbest for us in the future.
It's like developing thosemental muscles that allow us to
delay gratification and makechoices that serve our higher
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selves.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
So we've reached the
end of our deep dive into the
world of mind traps.
What an incredible journey it'sbeen.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
It really has yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It's amazing how
these subtle biases can shape
our thoughts, decisions and evenour perceptions of reality.
Absolutely, it's like we'vebeen given a behind the scenes
tour of our own minds.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
The key takeaway is
awareness.
By understanding these mentalshortcuts, we can start to
recognize them in ourselves andothers.
It's not about eliminatingthese biases entirely.
They're a part of what makes ushuman.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
It's about
understanding their influence
and making conscious choices tomitigate their negative effects.
It's about becoming moremindful thinkers, more aware of
the hidden forces that shape ourperceptions and decisions.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Exactly, and remember
this is an ongoing journey.
The more we learn about thesebiases, the more equipped we are
to navigate the world withgreater clarity and intention.
So here's a final thought toponder.
If our brains are constantlylooking for patterns and meaning
even where they don't exist,what does that tell us about the
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stories we create about theworld and the power of our own
perceptions?
Speaker 2 (34:56):
That's a great
question.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's a great
question.
To leave our listeners withThanks for joining us on this
deep dive into the fascinatingworld of mind traps.
We that's a great question.
That's a great question toleave our listeners with Thanks
for joining us on this deep diveinto the fascinating world of
mind traps.
We'll be back next time withanother exploration of
intriguing ideas and insights.
Until then, keep those brainsbuzzing.