What if your deepest calling isn't a clear, singular path, but a journey shaped by your life's defining moments? Join us as we promise to unravel the surprising truths about discovering your purpose, inspired by Jeff Goins' "The Art of Work." Through captivating stories of unexpected turns and transformations, like Garrett Rushmiller's triumph over adversity and Ginny Fang's journey from sewing to success, we challenge the conventional wisdom that callings are straightforward or exclusive. Reflect on your own experiences as we explore the concept of "accidental apprenticeships," where seemingly unrelated events reveal hidden passions and strengths.
Listen to the inspiring persistence of Stephanie, an American Idol hopeful who refused to give up, and learn how resilience, deliberate practice, and embracing uncertainty can unlock your true potential. We'll tell you about the bold moves of Hilary Scott, Colby Caillat, and the Carlsons, who dared to venture beyond secure careers to forge new paths. Discover the value of "pivot points" in shaping a fulfilling life, and hear about Charles Handy's "portfolio life" concept, where diverse activities lead to a more authentic existence. Together, we'll explore how each twist and turn in your life can bring you closer to a calling that's uniquely yours.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to our deep dive.
We're going to be uncoveringsome surprising insights about
you know, finding your calling.
Yes, we're going way deeperthan all those you know.
Like the typical, follow yourpassion, advice Right.
We're using the art of work byJeff Goins as our guide for this
one.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We're going to be exploring those unexpected parts
of the journey.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Like setbacks and you know those skills we just kind
of pick up by accident along theway and yeah, even you know
when things get a little bittough.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, you know, it's so interesting how I think we
tend to think about a calling aslike this straight, clear path,
just like illuminated bypassion.
Yeah, but in reality it'srarely that neat and tidy.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I see it, life throws all those curveballs and
detours and sometimes sends uson those adventures that we like
.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Never expected Totally.
One of the stories that reallystruck me from the book is about
Garrett Rushmiller.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So imagine this You're 10 years old.
You're a promising young golfer.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And suddenly you're diagnosed with a brain tumor.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's exactly what happened to Garrett.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Now.
The treatment saved his life,but it left him blind.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And with limited mobility.
That's odd.
It's a parent's worst nightmare.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But here's where the story takes this really powerful
turn.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Instead of, you know, being consumed by what could
have been Garrett and his father, Eric.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
They chose to focus on what they could do.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
They turned this tragedy into a springboard.
Wow, they started competing intriathlons together.
Yeah, with Eric guiding Garrettevery step of the way.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, and so Garrett's story isn't just about
like overcoming obstacles.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It actually reveals this powerful truth about
callings.
Sometimes they emerge from ourlimitations.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They push us to tap into these strengths that we
didn't even know we had.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So think about it for a second.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What challenges in your life might be nudging you
toward a hidden strength or anundiscovered passion?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
That's a question worth pondering.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It is.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And you know it gets me thinking about another common
myth about callings.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's how people sometimes act, like they're
reserved for this, like selectfew.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Like this exclusive club that you have to be invited
to.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, the idea that callings are only for the
chosen one Right Exactly.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But Goins challenges this directly.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Good.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
He argues that everyone has a calling.
Yeah, it's just often hidden.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Beneath these layers of expectations and self-doubt,
or even just the busyness ofeveryday life.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it just gets buried.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
He compares it to a seed Okay, buried within us,
just waiting for the rightconditions to sprout.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I like that analogy, yeah.
So how do we unearth that seed?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, how do we unearth that seed?
It starts with paying attentionto our lives.
Yes, tuning into those subtlesignals, those recurring themes,
those things that spark yourcuriosity, you know the things
that make you feel truly alive.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That's where Larry Elliott's story comes in.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Larry was a successful businessman living
what looked like the perfectlife on the outside.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But have you ever felt that feeling like when
something's missing, likethere's this deeper purpose that
you haven't quite found yet?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's exactly how Larry felt.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And then he faced a life-threatening surgery.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And this brush with mortality.
It forced Larry to confrontwhat truly mattered to him.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He wrote these heartfelt letters to his
children, just pouring out hislove, highlighting their unique
qualities.
And in that act of expressinglove, their unique qualities,
and in that act of expressinglove, something shifted within
him.
It wasn't like this dramaticepiphany, but it was this quiet,
(03:54):
deep realization that emergedfrom listening to his heart and
Larry's story.
It teaches us to pay attentionto those defining moments in our
lives, the ones that shake usawake.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And reveal what truly matters.
So think about the experiencesthat have shaped you.
What are they trying to tellyou about your own path?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Sometimes those whispers, they come through
experiences that seem totallyunrelated to our ultimate
calling Totally.
And that's where accidentalapprenticeships come into play.
It's about recognizing thevalue in those detours.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The skills we pick up along the way.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Even if they seem random at the time, it's like
Goings says, you can't connectthe dots.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
looking forward, only looking backwards, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Take Ginny Fang's story, for instance.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
She became a single mother at 23.
Wow, and found solace in sewing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Now you might be wondering what does sewing have
to do with finding your calling?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, seems a little random, Right.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, well for Ginny it became the foundation for a
successful fashion business.
Wow, I love that she startedsewing to cope and create.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But it unexpectedly blossomed into a career.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And you know this idea of accidental
apprenticeships.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It doesn't just apply to creative feel.
You know this idea ofaccidental apprenticeships.
Yeah, it doesn't just apply tocreative field, right, remember
when Steve Jobs dropped out ofcollege but kept auditing
classes?
Oh yeah, including that one oncalligraphy.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Years later, jobs reflected on how that seemingly
random class Right Deeplyinfluenced Apple's design
aesthetic.
Interesting Like.
If he hadn't taken thatcalligraphy class, our computers
might not have the beautifultypography Wow that we take for
granted today.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's like those little things that you don't
think are going to amount toanything, right, that really end
up shaping things in a big way.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Exactly, so think about the skills you've picked
up accidentally, whatexperiences, hobbies or like
random bits of knowledge mightactually be relevant to your
calling.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Even if you can't see the connection just yet.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's all about embracing the unexpected,
trusting that those seeminglyinsignificant moments can hold
clues to your purpose.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Absolutely, but remember your calling.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It isn't always going to be easy or comfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Sometimes it requires a bit of grit, a willingness to
push through challenges.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And that's where the idea of painful practice comes
in.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Ooh, I like that.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's what we're going to be diving into next.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Awesome, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Stay with us.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
All right, so we're diving into this idea of painful
practice.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It might seem a little counterintuitive,
especially when we're told tojust follow our passion, right.
But what if that passionrequires you to push through
some discomfort, to embracethose moments when you kind of
just want to give up?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
That's what I find so intriguing about this whole
idea.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It really challenges the notion that following your
calling should always be easyand enjoyable.
Sometimes it takes grit awillingness to persevere even
when things get tough.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Absolutely, and Goines introduces this concept
with the story of StephanieFisher.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
She was an American Idol hopeful who auditioned
seven times.
Seven times, yes, wow, you haveto admire her persistence.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay, she was an American Idol hopeful who
auditioned seven times Seventimes yeah.
Wow, you have to admire herpersistence.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Even if the judges weren't exactly impressed.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, I mean.
Simon Cowell even told herhonestly you can't sing
Sweetheart, that's gotta hurt.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, you'd think that would be enough to
discourage anyone.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
But Stephanie kept coming back Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Con kept coming back, wow, convinced that American
Idol was like her path tostardom so.
Stephanie's story raises animportant question.
Okay, is it just?
About talent, or is theresomething more to achieving
success?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Goins compares her experience to you know the
stories of successful musicianswho were initially rejected by
the show.
Interesting, like Hilary Scottfrom Lady Antebellum, oh, wow
yeah.
And Colby Coyote.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Both of them.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, they were both told they weren't good enough.
Wow.
Yet they went on to have theseincredible careers in music.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So what sets them apart from someone like
Stephanie?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's the question.
Right, Right and Goins suggeststhat true mastery requires more
than just passion.
Okay suggests that true masteryrequires more than just passion
.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It demands what he calls deliberate practice.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, what does that mean?
It's a focused and intentionaleffort to push yourself beyond
your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So it's not just about enjoying the activity.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's about actively seeking ways to improve, yeah,
even if it means, you know,facing your weaknesses head on.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Exactly, and he suggests breaking down the skill
you want to develop intosmaller components.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Setting specific goals for improvement and
constantly seeking feedback.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So it's like you know , it's about pushing yourself
beyond what feels comfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Knowing that growth happens outside of that comfort
zone.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That was so powerful.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So think about it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Is there something you love enough to do, even when
it's hard, even when you facesetbacks, even when the results
aren't immediate?
Yeah, that willingness topersist through those painful
practice moments might be whatunlocks your potential.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So you know, so far we've explored the power of
reframing setbacks.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Listening to our lives, embracing those
accidental apprenticeships, yes,and even facing those, you know
, painful practice moments headon.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But how do we actually take action?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, how do we move from like preparation to
actually building a life that'saligned with our calling?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's the big question right.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, it's like we've gathered all the ingredients,
but we haven't actually startedcooking yet.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's a great analogy.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Goins talks about the importance of building bridges.
Okay, Taking those first stepseven when the path isn't crystal
clear.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And he shares this incredible story of Ben and
Christy Carlson.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
They left stable careers, yeah to.
And Christy Carlson Okay, theyleft stable careers to start a
coffee company in Burundi.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Burundi.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Which is one of the poorest countries in the world.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Wow.
So they were driven by a desireto make a difference.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, they wanted to use their skills and their
passion to create somethingmeaningful.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Not just for themselves, but for, like, an
entire community.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I love that.
And here's the thing theydidn't have all the answers.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Right, they didn't have like this perfect plan link
out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They took a leap of faith.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Trusting that they would figure things out as they
went along.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That takes a lot of courage.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It does.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
To embrace that uncertainty.
Yeah, knowing that flexibilityand adaptability would be so
crucial to their success.
So their story reminds us thatsometimes the most fulfilling
paths are the ones that wecreate, not the ones that are
just like laid out for us.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Right.
It's about finding the courageto say I don't know exactly
where this will lead, but I'mtaking that next step.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's a powerful statement.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It is.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
But what about those of us who, you know, feel like
we've already taken a few steps?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Maybe you've made some wrong turns.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Goines offers this concept of pivot points for
those situations.
Okay, and he introduces us toMatt McWilliams, whose career
journey was anything but linear.
He went from golf instructor toonline marketer, to
entrepreneur, to consultant,constantly adapting and evolving
along the way.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So it sounds like each experience, even the ones
that might have felt likefailures at the time, ultimately
contributed to his growth.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And led him closer to where he was meant to be.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Exactly.
It's like those detours wereactually redirections
Interesting A chance to hone hisskills, gain new experiences
and ultimately refine hisunderstanding of what he was
meant to do.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's like life is saying, hey, this isn't quite it
, but keep exploring, keeplearning, keep refining your
path.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So, with all these insights in mind, how do we
start piecing together a lifethat feels authentic and
fulfilling, a life that trulyreflects our unique calling?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
One of the most practical and liberating
takeaways from the art of workis Charles Handy's concept of
the portfolio life.
Portfolio life, yeah, and it'sa way of looking at work that
breaks free from thattraditional idea of a single job
defining your entire identity.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So, instead of being tied to one single job title,
you're building this diversecollection of activities that
bring you purpose and meaning.
It's like creating your idealwork day Right.
You're building this diversecollection of activities that
bring you purpose and meaning.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's like creating your ideal work day.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But instead of just tasks, you're choosing
activities that bring you energyand purpose.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And Handy breaks down the portfolio life into five
categories.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
OK, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So there's fee work, which is your typical freelance
or contract work.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
OK, so trading time for money.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Exactly.
Then there's salary work,that's your traditional nine to
five job.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Got it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Then we move into the unpaid but equally valuable
work.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So homework includes those essential tasks like
taking care of family ormanaging your household.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right the things that we have to do.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Exactly.
Then there's study work.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Which is about continuous learning and skill
development.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
So like reading books , taking courses or just, you
know, pursuing your curiosity.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Exactly.
And finally there's gift work.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay, gift work.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Which includes volunteering, mentoring or just
using your skills and talents tohelp others.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It expands our definition of work to include
all the different ways wecontribute and create value in
the world.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's about recognizing that your calling
can express itself in so manydifferent ways.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes, both paid and unpaid, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And sometimes the most fulfilling work is the work
we do simply because it bringsus joy and allows us to make a
positive impact.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Absolutely.
But Goines doesn't stop there.
He challenges us to thinkbeyond ourselves, to consider
the legacy we want to leavebehind.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Now, that's a question worth exploring.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It is a big one.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So we're back and I think this idea of legacy, it
can feel a bit intimidating,yeah Right, like something that
only famous people need to worryabout, right?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We tend to associate legacy with, like these, grand
accomplishments, you know.
Yeah, like making somegroundbreaking discovery or
writing a best-selling novel,but Goins encourages us to
embrace a more personal, a moregrounded understanding of legacy
.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He shares a story about Sam, a farmer in Uganda,
and despite living in poverty,sam works tirelessly to provide
for his family and build abetter future for his children.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And it's a story that I think really challenges our
preconceived notions TotallyAbout wealth and success.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, because Sam's story reminds us that legacy
isn't about material possessions.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's about the impact we have on the lives of those
around us.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's about you know the values we embody, the love
we share, the contributions wemake to our families, our
communities in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Absolutely.
It's about those everyday actsof kindness you know, those
moments of connection, thoseways in which we make the world
a little bit brighter.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, those are the things that truly matter.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yes, and that's something that each of us can
cultivate, regardless of ourcircumstances.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I love that it shifts the focus from you know,
achieving greatness to embodyinggoodness.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yes, and Goins also emphasizes that legacy isn't
just about what we do, but whatwe pass on.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So like mentoring.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yes, mentoring.
Mentoring Sharing our knowledge, our skills, our experiences
with others.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Recognizing that our life's work.
It isn't meant to be a soloperformance.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Exactly, and he uses the example of Mr Holland.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh yeah, from Mr Holland's opus.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, the music teacher.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Remember how he initially dreamt of composing
this grand symphony, but hislife took an unexpected turn
when he became a high schoolmusic teacher.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, at first he felt like a failure Right, like
he'd abandoned his true calling.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But at his retirement party he realizes that he had
touched the lives of countlessstudents, inspiring so many to
pursue music and make it theirlife's work.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
That scene gets me every time.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's so powerful.
It really is that reminder thatour greatest impact often comes
from those seemingly smalleveryday acts yes, Of teaching,
guiding and encouraging others?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's about leaving that ripple effect.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And that's a legacy that I think we can all create.
We can, Whether it's within ourfamilies, our workplaces, our
communities or even online.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's about finding those ways to share our passions
and our knowledge.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
To help others discover their own potential.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's about recognizing that we all have
something valuable to offer, yes, something that can make a
difference in the lives ofothers.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And so, as we wrap up this deep dive into the art of
work, yes, let's remember thosekey takeaways.
Okay, callings are for everyone.
The path is rarely linear, andembracing the unexpected is so
crucial I think that's one ofthe biggest things.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It is, but I think, the most important takeaway.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Is this.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Your life's work isn't meant to be a solo
performance.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's about connection , collaboration and contribution
.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Think about it.
Who are you collaborating with?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
How can you pass on your knowledge, your skills,
your passions to make a lastingimpact?
It might be closer than youthink.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It probably is.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Maybe it's mentoring a colleague.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Volunteering in your community or simply sharing your
unique talents with the world.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The possibilities are endless.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
They are.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So keep exploring, keep learning, keep growing and
remember your calling is ajourney, not a destination.
Love it, and it's a journeybest shared.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Thank you for joining us on this deep dive.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We hope it sparked some new ideas and inspired you
to continue exploring your ownunique path.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Until next time, keep diving deep.
Welcome to our deep dive.
We're going to be uncoveringsome surprising insights about
you know, finding your calling.
Yes, we're going way deeperthan all those you know.
Like the typical, follow yourpassion, advice Right.
We're using the art of work byJeff Goins as our guide for this
one.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We're going to be exploring those unexpected parts
of the journey.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Like setbacks and you know those skills we just kind
of pick up by accident along theway and yeah, even you know
when things get a little bittough.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, you know, it's so interesting how I think we
tend to think about a calling aslike this straight, clear path,
just like illuminated bypassion.
Yeah, but in reality it'srarely that neat and tidy.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I see it, life throws all those curveballs and
detours and sometimes sends uson those adventures that we like
.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Never expected Totally.
One of the stories that reallystruck me from the book is about
Garrett Rushmiller.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So imagine this You're 10 years old.
You're a promising young golfer.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And suddenly you're diagnosed with a brain tumor.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
That's exactly what happened to Garrett.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Now.
The treatment saved his life,but it left him blind.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And with limited mobility.
That's odd.
It's a parent's worst nightmare.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But here's where the story takes this really powerful
turn.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Instead of, you know, being consumed by what could
have been Garrett and his father, Eric.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
They chose to focus on what they could do.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
They turned this tragedy into a springboard.
Wow, they started competing intriathlons together.
Yeah, with Eric guiding Garrettevery step of the way.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
That's incredible.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, and so Garrett's story isn't just about
like overcoming obstacles.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
It actually reveals this powerful truth about
callings.
Sometimes they emerge from ourlimitations.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
They push us to tap into these strengths that we
didn't even know we had.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
So think about it for a second.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
What challenges in your life might be nudging you
toward a hidden strength or anundiscovered passion?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
That's a question worth pondering.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It is.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And you know it gets me thinking about another common
myth about callings.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
It's how people sometimes act, like they're
reserved for this, like selectfew.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Like this exclusive club that you have to be invited
to.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, the idea that callings are only for the
chosen one Right Exactly.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
But Goins challenges this directly.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Good.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
He argues that everyone has a calling.
Yeah, it's just often hidden.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Beneath these layers of expectations and self-doubt,
or even just the busyness ofeveryday life.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah, it just gets buried.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
He compares it to a seed Okay, buried within us,
just waiting for the rightconditions to sprout.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I like that analogy, yeah.
So how do we unearth that seed?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, how do we unearth that seed?
It starts with paying attentionto our lives.
Yes, tuning into those subtlesignals, those recurring themes,
those things that spark yourcuriosity, you know the things
that make you feel truly alive.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
That's where Larry Elliott's story comes in.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Larry was a successful businessman living
what looked like the perfectlife on the outside.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
But have you ever felt that feeling like when
something's missing, likethere's this deeper purpose that
you haven't quite found yet?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That's exactly how Larry felt.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And then he faced a life-threatening surgery.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And this brush with mortality.
It forced Larry to confrontwhat truly mattered to him.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He wrote these heartfelt letters to his
children, just pouring out hislove, highlighting their unique
qualities.
And in that act of expressinglove, their unique qualities,
and in that act of expressinglove, something shifted within
him.
It wasn't like this dramaticepiphany, but it was this quiet,
(03:54):
deep realization that emergedfrom listening to his heart and
Larry's story.
It teaches us to pay attentionto those defining moments in our
lives, the ones that shake usawake.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And reveal what truly matters.
So think about the experiencesthat have shaped you.
What are they trying to tellyou about your own path?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Sometimes those whispers, they come through
experiences that seem totallyunrelated to our ultimate
calling Totally.
And that's where accidentalapprenticeships come into play.
It's about recognizing thevalue in those detours.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The skills we pick up along the way.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Even if they seem random at the time, it's like
Goings says, you can't connectthe dots.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
looking forward, only looking backwards, exactly.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Take Ginny Fang's story, for instance.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
She became a single mother at 23.
Wow, and found solace in sewing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Now you might be wondering what does sewing have
to do with finding your calling?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, seems a little random, Right.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Okay, well for Ginny it became the foundation for a
successful fashion business.
Wow, I love that she startedsewing to cope and create.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But it unexpectedly blossomed into a career.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And you know this idea of accidental
apprenticeships.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It doesn't just apply to creative feel.
You know this idea ofaccidental apprenticeships.
Yeah, it doesn't just apply tocreative field, right, remember
when Steve Jobs dropped out ofcollege but kept auditing
classes?
Oh yeah, including that one oncalligraphy.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Years later, jobs reflected on how that seemingly
random class Right Deeplyinfluenced Apple's design
aesthetic.
Interesting Like.
If he hadn't taken thatcalligraphy class, our computers
might not have the beautifultypography Wow that we take for
granted today.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's like those little things that you don't
think are going to amount toanything, right, that really end
up shaping things in a big way.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Exactly, so think about the skills you've picked
up accidentally, whatexperiences, hobbies or like
random bits of knowledge mightactually be relevant to your
calling.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Even if you can't see the connection just yet.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's all about embracing the unexpected,
trusting that those seeminglyinsignificant moments can hold
clues to your purpose.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Absolutely, but remember your calling.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It isn't always going to be easy or comfortable.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Sometimes it requires a bit of grit, a willingness to
push through challenges.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And that's where the idea of painful practice comes
in.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Ooh, I like that.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
That's what we're going to be diving into next.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Awesome, can't wait.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Stay with us.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
All right, so we're diving into this idea of painful
practice.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It might seem a little counterintuitive,
especially when we're told tojust follow our passion, right.
But what if that passionrequires you to push through
some discomfort, to embracethose moments when you kind of
just want to give up?
Speaker 1 (06:37):
That's what I find so intriguing about this whole
idea.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It really challenges the notion that following your
calling should always be easyand enjoyable.
Sometimes it takes grit awillingness to persevere even
when things get tough.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Absolutely, and Goines introduces this concept
with the story of StephanieFisher.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
She was an American Idol hopeful who auditioned
seven times.
Seven times, yes, wow, you haveto admire her persistence.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Okay, she was an American Idol hopeful who
auditioned seven times Seventimes yeah.
Wow, you have to admire herpersistence.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Even if the judges weren't exactly impressed.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, I mean.
Simon Cowell even told herhonestly you can't sing
Sweetheart, that's gotta hurt.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, you'd think that would be enough to
discourage anyone.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
But Stephanie kept coming back Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Con kept coming back, wow, convinced that American
Idol was like her path tostardom so.
Stephanie's story raises animportant question.
Okay, is it just?
About talent, or is theresomething more to achieving
success?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Goins compares her experience to you know the
stories of successful musicianswho were initially rejected by
the show.
Interesting, like Hilary Scottfrom Lady Antebellum, oh, wow
yeah.
And Colby Coyote.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Both of them.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, they were both told they weren't good enough.
Wow.
Yet they went on to have theseincredible careers in music.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
So what sets them apart from someone like
Stephanie?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That's the question.
Right, Right and Goins suggeststhat true mastery requires more
than just passion.
Okay suggests that true masteryrequires more than just passion
.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It demands what he calls deliberate practice.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, what does that mean?
It's a focused and intentionaleffort to push yourself beyond
your comfort zone.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
So it's not just about enjoying the activity.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's about actively seeking ways to improve, yeah,
even if it means, you know,facing your weaknesses head on.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Exactly, and he suggests breaking down the skill
you want to develop intosmaller components.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Setting specific goals for improvement and
constantly seeking feedback.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So it's like you know , it's about pushing yourself
beyond what feels comfortable.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Knowing that growth happens outside of that comfort
zone.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
That was so powerful.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
So think about it.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Is there something you love enough to do, even when
it's hard, even when you facesetbacks, even when the results
aren't immediate?
Yeah, that willingness topersist through those painful
practice moments might be whatunlocks your potential.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So you know, so far we've explored the power of
reframing setbacks.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Listening to our lives, embracing those
accidental apprenticeships, yes,and even facing those, you know
, painful practice moments headon.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
But how do we actually take action?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, how do we move from like preparation to
actually building a life that'saligned with our calling?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's the big question right.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, it's like we've gathered all the ingredients,
but we haven't actually startedcooking yet.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's a great analogy.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Goins talks about the importance of building bridges.
Okay, Taking those first stepseven when the path isn't crystal
clear.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And he shares this incredible story of Ben and
Christy Carlson.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
They left stable careers, yeah to.
And Christy Carlson Okay, theyleft stable careers to start a
coffee company in Burundi.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Burundi.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Which is one of the poorest countries in the world.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Wow.
So they were driven by a desireto make a difference.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, they wanted to use their skills and their
passion to create somethingmeaningful.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Not just for themselves, but for, like, an
entire community.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I love that.
And here's the thing theydidn't have all the answers.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Right, they didn't have like this perfect plan link
out.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
They took a leap of faith.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Trusting that they would figure things out as they
went along.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That takes a lot of courage.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
It does.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
To embrace that uncertainty.
Yeah, knowing that flexibilityand adaptability would be so
crucial to their success.
So their story reminds us thatsometimes the most fulfilling
paths are the ones that wecreate, not the ones that are
just like laid out for us.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Right.
It's about finding the courageto say I don't know exactly
where this will lead, but I'mtaking that next step.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That's a powerful statement.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
It is.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
But what about those of us who, you know, feel like
we've already taken a few steps?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Maybe you've made some wrong turns.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Goines offers this concept of pivot points for
those situations.
Okay, and he introduces us toMatt McWilliams, whose career
journey was anything but linear.
He went from golf instructor toonline marketer, to
entrepreneur, to consultant,constantly adapting and evolving
along the way.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So it sounds like each experience, even the ones
that might have felt likefailures at the time, ultimately
contributed to his growth.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
And led him closer to where he was meant to be.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Exactly.
It's like those detours wereactually redirections
Interesting A chance to hone hisskills, gain new experiences
and ultimately refine hisunderstanding of what he was
meant to do.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's like life is saying, hey, this isn't quite it
, but keep exploring, keeplearning, keep refining your
path.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So, with all these insights in mind, how do we
start piecing together a lifethat feels authentic and
fulfilling, a life that trulyreflects our unique calling?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
One of the most practical and liberating
takeaways from the art of workis Charles Handy's concept of
the portfolio life.
Portfolio life, yeah, and it'sa way of looking at work that
breaks free from thattraditional idea of a single job
defining your entire identity.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So, instead of being tied to one single job title,
you're building this diversecollection of activities that
bring you purpose and meaning.
It's like creating your idealwork day Right.
You're building this diversecollection of activities that
bring you purpose and meaning.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's like creating your ideal work day.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But instead of just tasks, you're choosing
activities that bring you energyand purpose.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And Handy breaks down the portfolio life into five
categories.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
OK, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
So there's fee work, which is your typical freelance
or contract work.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
OK, so trading time for money.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Exactly.
Then there's salary work,that's your traditional nine to
five job.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Got it.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Then we move into the unpaid but equally valuable
work.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So homework includes those essential tasks like
taking care of family ormanaging your household.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right the things that we have to do.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Exactly.
Then there's study work.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Which is about continuous learning and skill
development.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
So like reading books , taking courses or just, you
know, pursuing your curiosity.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Exactly.
And finally there's gift work.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Okay, gift work.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Which includes volunteering, mentoring or just
using your skills and talents tohelp others.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
It expands our definition of work to include
all the different ways wecontribute and create value in
the world.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
It's about recognizing that your calling
can express itself in so manydifferent ways.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes, both paid and unpaid, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And sometimes the most fulfilling work is the work
we do simply because it bringsus joy and allows us to make a
positive impact.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Absolutely.
But Goines doesn't stop there.
He challenges us to thinkbeyond ourselves, to consider
the legacy we want to leavebehind.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Now, that's a question worth exploring.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
It is a big one.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
So we're back and I think this idea of legacy, it
can feel a bit intimidating,yeah Right, like something that
only famous people need to worryabout, right?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
We tend to associate legacy with, like these, grand
accomplishments, you know.
Yeah, like making somegroundbreaking discovery or
writing a best-selling novel,but Goins encourages us to
embrace a more personal, a moregrounded understanding of legacy
.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
He shares a story about Sam, a farmer in Uganda,
and despite living in poverty,sam works tirelessly to provide
for his family and build abetter future for his children.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And it's a story that I think really challenges our
preconceived notions TotallyAbout wealth and success.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, because Sam's story reminds us that legacy
isn't about material possessions.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's about the impact we have on the lives of those
around us.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's about you know the values we embody, the love
we share, the contributions wemake to our families, our
communities in the world.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Absolutely.
It's about those everyday actsof kindness you know, those
moments of connection, thoseways in which we make the world
a little bit brighter.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, those are the things that truly matter.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yes, and that's something that each of us can
cultivate, regardless of ourcircumstances.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I love that it shifts the focus from you know,
achieving greatness to embodyinggoodness.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yes, and Goins also emphasizes that legacy isn't
just about what we do, but whatwe pass on.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
So like mentoring.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yes, mentoring.
Mentoring Sharing our knowledge, our skills, our experiences
with others.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Recognizing that our life's work.
It isn't meant to be a soloperformance.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Exactly, and he uses the example of Mr Holland.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Oh yeah, from Mr Holland's opus.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, the music teacher.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Remember how he initially dreamt of composing
this grand symphony, but hislife took an unexpected turn
when he became a high schoolmusic teacher.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, at first he felt like a failure Right, like
he'd abandoned his true calling.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But at his retirement party he realizes that he had
touched the lives of countlessstudents, inspiring so many to
pursue music and make it theirlife's work.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
That scene gets me every time.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's so powerful.
It really is that reminder thatour greatest impact often comes
from those seemingly smalleveryday acts yes, Of teaching,
guiding and encouraging others?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It's about leaving that ripple effect.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
And that's a legacy that I think we can all create.
We can, Whether it's within ourfamilies, our workplaces, our
communities or even online.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's about finding those ways to share our passions
and our knowledge.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
To help others discover their own potential.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's about recognizing that we all have
something valuable to offer, yes, something that can make a
difference in the lives ofothers.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And so, as we wrap up this deep dive into the art of
work, yes, let's remember thosekey takeaways.
Okay, callings are for everyone.
The path is rarely linear, andembracing the unexpected is so
crucial I think that's one ofthe biggest things.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
It is, but I think, the most important takeaway.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Is this.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Your life's work isn't meant to be a solo
performance.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's about connection , collaboration and contribution
.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Think about it.
Who are you collaborating with?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
How can you pass on your knowledge, your skills,
your passions to make a lastingimpact?
It might be closer than youthink.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It probably is.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Maybe it's mentoring a colleague.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Volunteering in your community or simply sharing your
unique talents with the world.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The possibilities are endless.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
They are.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So keep exploring, keep learning, keep growing and
remember your calling is ajourney, not a destination.
Love it, and it's a journeybest shared.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Thank you for joining us on this deep dive.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
We hope it sparked some new ideas and inspired you
to continue exploring your ownunique path.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Until next time, keep diving deep.
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.