Q&A with Josh - April 2025

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In this Q&A session, we dive deep into what's working right now in the web design industry, answering listener questions on topics from SEO to networking strategies, CRM systems, and leveraging AI effectively in your business.

• SEO fundamentals remain largely unchanged despite AI advancements with core principles of good structure and quality content still driving results
• Local networking is most effective when you focus on accessing others' networks rather than directly selling to group members
• CRM systems like 17hats can dramatically improve workflow efficiency through automation of proposals, contracts and client onboarding
• Adding quarterly strategy calls to maintenance plans can generate significant additional revenue while strengthening client relationships
• White label services require consistent value demonstration in communities rather than simply asking for work
• AI is most effectively used beyond just site building – leverage it for business development, finding networking opportunities, and streamlining operations
• The most successful designers focus on helping clients grow their businesses with websites as a tool rather than just delivering websites
• Raising your rates regularly is essential for business sustainability, especially as your skills and results improve

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Welcome in everybody.
Welcome into our special springedition Q&A session here.
Good to have you here.
Live on YouTube, where I willbe down to answer any questions
you have about web design, thebusiness of web design, some
marketing strategies.
We could talk about how theBlue Jackets came this close to
making the playoffs this yearfor fellow NHL fans.

(02:07):
Listen, whatever's on your mind, I will do my best to help you
out.
So really good to see everybody.
We're going to give a coupleminutes for everyone to hop in.
Good to see Alexia here, whojumped right in first today.
I wish you could react to thechat here like in circle.
Yeah, alexia, the chat is verydifferent on YouTube versus

(02:29):
circle, isn't it?
For those who don't know, inWeb Designer Pro, our live chat
is how do we say it, alexia?
It's robust and you can addGIFs.
You can do a lot of differentreactions, so it is awesome.
I totally agree, alexia, butthe one thing that YouTube has
over it is well, there's aspotlight in Circle for

(02:51):
Questions, but they don't havethe little pop-up chat like this
, so I'm hoping they add thatsoon.
Hey, ben, yes, questions in thechat.
So hit me.
Good to have you here, ben.
Any questions you guys have, Iam down to answer anything today
and give some insight where Ican to help you in your web
design businesses.
Exciting times right now.

(03:11):
I know there's always times ofuncertainty and questions, but I
think there's also a lot ofreally, really exciting things
that I see right now in webdesign, with a lot of Web
Designer Pro members and a lotof colleagues who are up to some
really cool things that I'mhappy to help you guys out with.
Is it a leaks?
That's going to be a tough one.
I'm going to call you Alex.

(03:32):
I'm going to pretend that thatY is an E.
I think I'm going to take yourSEO course.
With all the recent Googlechanges what has changed since
you created the course?
So I am going to be updatingthat one.
Um, that is my second coursethat I'm going to be updating.
I'm about to release a new DNScourse, which is the new version
of what was formerly the Cpanel course.
That one's a pretty down anddirty course.

(03:54):
Um, as far as it being justpretty short and sweet, the SEO
course is going to be next, alex.
Now I will say the SEO courseis not out of date in a sense of
like nothing in there is is outof date in the way of like it's
not applicable now.
It's still a great foundationalSEO course and we even get into
pricing strategies and how tosell SEO.

(04:15):
All of those things are stillvalid today.
The one thing that I'm goingthat is going to be updated and
added to are a lot more thingsto do with chat, gpt, ai,
overviews.
Really, that's it.
There's not.
It's funny because SEO guysActually let's start off with
this this idea of SEO right now,with where SEO is in 2025.

(04:36):
A lot of the exact sameprinciples that worked a decade
ago still work today.
Chat GPT, for example, ispulling info based off of really
good OG SEO principles.
Any type of large languagemodel is still using good SEO
principles and I'm gettingpulled up on searches.
I'm finding this all the timeto where web designers are

(04:58):
searching web design tutorialsor web design coaches and it
really it's just basic OG SEOprinciples, which are basically
good best practice, structuredwebsites, good human content
that is getting eyes and peopleare actually engaging with and
staying on websites.

(05:18):
People aren't bouncing off fastor they're secure.
They're not having maliciouscode and hacks in them.
All those OG SEO principles areworking just as good as today
as they ever have been.
Um, yeah, so that's the goodnews.
Uh, again, let me know if, alex, if that's the correct
terminology for you.
But yeah, so you're good to gojump on it.

(05:39):
And since you're interested inthe SEO course, this goes for
everyone.
But, uh, since you are joiningour call live right now, I do
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So jump on in with that, alex.
And then, uh, any questions,let me know, cause I'll be happy
to to with that Alex.
And then any questions, let meknow, because I'll be happy to
answer that for you.
Awesome, awesome, awesome.
And then, yeah, I don't know ifI'll have the new additional
lessons and revised coursewithin the first month.
It'll probably be June.
That's my goal for the SEOcourse, but I'm not going to
waste any time on that becauseagain, there are some new things

(06:43):
that are helpful.
But again there are some newthings that are helpful.
But again, you're totally goodto go.
Everyone's going through thatSEO course and still getting
great results, so all good there.
Alexia would like to know tipsfor in-person networking, please
.
Just visited my old BNI chapterthis morning trying to decide
if I should start localnetworking again.
I would, alexia, for sure thereality is I mean, as far as

(07:04):
tips go, I think there's a fewimportant things to remember
when it comes to localnetworking, which for this case
we'll focus on, like a BNIchapter, which is a referral
group.
There's a big differencebetween a referral group and a
networking event or a networkinggroup.
Sometimes networking eventscould be just almost like a
business event or a businesshangout.

(07:25):
A events could be just almostlike a business event or a
business hangout.
A referral group is differentbecause, number one, you pay to
play.
You're paying to be there,which also means other people
are paying to be there, whichmeans you're getting more
serious business people.
But a referral group is greatbecause I've said this all the
time but I'll say it again thereferral group is not about
getting direct clients from them.
It's about getting access totheir network.

(07:49):
So when you join a BNI chapterand there's 15 people in there,
maybe a few of those will becomeclients of yours.
But you don't want to go inthere and sales, sale hard.
You want to just be helpful andbe a really good resource and
share your knowledge and justgive all of your info for free
to that group, because 15 peopleall have networks of hundreds

(08:12):
of people.
So you immediately especially ifyou're likable like Alexia,
you're very charismatic, you'rea great designer, you're super
professional you will get leadslike crazy, not only from
members directly but from theirnetworks.
So when you know Jim, who is afinancial planner, has a client
who has a terrible website andthey mentioned they need help

(08:33):
with their digital marketing,they're like, oh my gosh, I've
got this gal, alexia.
She's in my networking group,my referral group.
She's amazing.
That's how it happens.
So that's the mindset to haveAlexi and anyone who is doing
in-person networking don't go toevents to try to get jobs.
Let me close up time.
Let's say it again Don't go tonetworking events to try to get

(08:54):
jobs like that.
Just go be very helpful, giveagain all of your value and your
knowledge for free and it willpay off for you big time, very
quickly.
Because, number one, you'll bemore approachable and your
knowledge for free and it willpay off for you big time, very
quickly.
Because, number one, you'll bemore approachable and you'll get
access to the network,especially with referral groups,
because you can say I'm lookingfor clients in the medical

(09:16):
field, or I'm looking forchiropractors, or maybe I've
been doing websites for homeinspectors and these are the
results we're getting.
So if you know a home inspector, hit me up, kind of thing.
Mdh, matt, what's going on?
Matt?
What software do you deal, doyou use to deal with CRM and
lead generation?
I'm wanting to build a databaseof businesses in my local area,

(09:38):
to build a call list and umlook at if I have a listing on
maps et cetera.
So what timing, matt?
What a layup question.
There's a lot of difference.
So there is a bit of adifference between, like pure
well, you can use a variety ofCRMs for lead generation.

(09:59):
I use 17 hats.
If you guys want to check outmy link, joshhallco slash,
17hats is my link for that andactually let me show you because
this is so timely too, becausewe just did a training on this
Hold on one sec guys, let mepull something up for you real
quick Because 17hats justyesterday we got together.

(10:26):
They are a sponsor of ourupcoming Web Designer Pro
in-person event and I'm workingon some partnership stuff with
them.
Just because I love 17 hats.
I've been using them for adecade.
In August I'll be using themfor 10 years.
I'm going to put this link inthe chat for you guys.
This is a brand new offer we puttogether with 17 Hats.

(10:48):
The reason I want to show youthis, matt and anyone else, is
because you can get a seven-dayfree trial of 17 Hats and you
can start to build out your leadgeneration of pipeline.
And what I worked out with 17Hats is when you jump in with a
17-day trial, or if you want tojust purchase an annual plan and
get 50% off with this link,you're going to get as a bonus

(11:13):
my quote, contract and invoicewith a click of a button,
literally ready to go, andthere's a tutorial that comes
with it.
So I would check that out, matt, to see if that's a good fit
for you, because you can manageyour leads, you can set up
pipelines.
It's freaking awesome.
And actually let's jump over toWeb Designer Pro real quick,
because we just did in thetraining library.

(11:33):
For those who don't know, wehave guest trainings almost
every month.
We have a guest expert and verytimely Jeb of 17 Hats hell of a
beard, by the way just did atraining on how to do lead
conversion and how to set up aton of automations with
questionnaires and using 17 Hats.

(11:53):
If you want to use 17 Hats tobuild out your pipeline and your
lead pipeline.
So, yes, 17 Hats, matt, is whatI use, what I highly recommend.
I've been using them for adecade.
They are just a really greatcompany.
They got a ton of functionalityin that platform.
It's something that can bepretty simple if you want to
keep it simple, but it can alsobe extremely robust if you

(12:14):
wanted it to be.
So check that out.
And for those of you who wouldlike to see this training,
you'll get this when you jointhe community tier of Web
Designer Pro.
So I would highly encourage youcheck that out If you're
interested in checking out thattraining.
It goes a lot more into the leadgeneration.
But again, that link I sent inthe chat there for you that has

(12:35):
my special offer with 17 hats towhere you can get my stuff all
wrapped up for you, even with aseven-day free trial.
So awesome, matt, let me knowif that helps.
Um, yeah, cause there's a tonof different ways.
You.
The big thing with real quickwith with leads is you want to
automate the process with themgetting into your world as much

(12:56):
as you can.
That way, you're not havinghour long discovery calls with
bad leads and then your, yourdiscovery questionnaires, your
calls, all those things you wantto try to automate as much as
you can.
So you can do a lot of thatwith 17 ads.
You could do stuff with withother platforms as well.
I just I love 17 ads.
I've used them for a decade.
The team behind that platformis awesome, so I'd highly

(13:18):
recommend it.
Awesome, jennifer said I startedusing 17 ads at the beginning
of the year after doing yourbusiness course.
Uh, struggling to seteverything, everything up and
getting it going.
It's very overwhelming.
Any tips would be great.
So what I would start off with,jennifer, is in the business
course, which is also what'savailable in that free trial, is
just set up.
Your quote, uh, and let me know, jennifer, if did you use my,

(13:42):
my um download for the quotecontract invoice?
Because that's all just oneclick ready to go for you.
That's where I would start isthe quote, the invoice and the
contract.
It's just all buttoned up witha one click option for you.
So, jennifer, let me know if youneed any help with that because
, uh, it's in the businesscourse, it's available for you.

(14:03):
You can literally just that's,plug and play.
I would start there.
The other thing I would do isfor anyone in WebCenter Pro.
I'd actually really recommendgoing through that training that
we just did last week from Jefffrom 17 Hats, because it gives
you a quick walkthrough of howto set up some automations and
pipelines in there.
That's kind of something I'mgoing to look at doing either as

(14:26):
an add-on or the next iterationof the business course is
making that all even morestreamlined and more plug and
play for everybody in pro.
So, yeah, I would start off withwhat I have available for you
now, jennifer, which is just thequote contract invoice plug and
play.
It's a one-click install, goodto go, and then those lessons
will help you out.
Okay, so haven't used that yet.

(14:47):
Purchase some templates as well.
I could use some encouragement,yeah, so that's where I would
start, because that will walkyou through everything I do in
there.
Um, and just for for Jennifer,anyone who doesn't know, uh, let
me make sure there's nothing.
Let me make sure there'snothing.

(15:09):
Okay, I can show this justcause I don't I can't let the
code go public, but here is forJennifer and anyone who is um is
interested.
This is the lesson in thebusiness course.
This is literally my 17 hatstemplate, which is yours, with
one click, which is the proposal, the contract, the invoice.
This will literally walk youthrough.
There's a code in here,jennifer, so just hop into the

(15:31):
business course it's in moduletwo, it's the last lesson of
module two and then you canliterally use this.
It's a one click install.
You will get my template forthe quote, which is the proposal
, my contract, which you canadjust accordingly, and then it
automatically creates theinvoice and this will be backed
with the getting started emailsas well.

(15:52):
So hope that helps, jennifer,and just ping me, email me, josh
, at Josh hallco If you have anyadditional questions on that.
All right, guys, let's get tosome more questions here.
Good to see Mark in the house.
The Web Designer Pro member,mark's got a third website

(16:15):
launch tomorrow.
I wondered, mark, I felt likewe didn't see you this week.
I thought you were busy.
Hey, aj, good to see you so.
Good on you, mark.
Rock and roll man Ben wanted toknow how do you access a wider
network?
Is that advertising to your ownnetwork for them to recommend
you Exactly With networking, ben, that's exactly it, and that's
the beauty of a referral group,because a referral group is just

(16:36):
that you refer people.
To those folks Now I will say,with a networking group or
referral group cheesy as it isthe more you give, the more you
get Meaning.
If you give referrals to people, they will reciprocate it.
I was a referral machineintentionally.
Everyone in my network realtors, we had a chiropractor, we had

(16:59):
a mechanic.
My insurance guy to this day isstill my insurance guy from, uh
, my networking group.
I just talked to him thismorning.
He had a question about ourauto coverage.
Um, those are your professionalnetwork people and, yes, they
some will become clients.
But the real gold is who theyknow, because when you see them

(17:20):
week to week or month to monthand they get to know you and
your business, you guys becomeprofessional friends and
colleagues.
That is how you get thosereferrals.
And the beauty about thosereferrals is they are hot leads,
meaning you don't need to docold DMing or cold emails or
cold calling.
Nothing is cold, everything ishot, very, very warm at best.

(17:42):
Those leads Because, again, jim, the financial planner of he's
like you got to talk to Ben Benis great web designer, super
nice guy.
Um, he, he's who I'd recommendto help you out with your
digital stuff.
You'll get a referral and thenall you have to do is just close
it.
So you just have to have a niceoffer and know your stuff.
So jump on in web designer proif you need to, to brush up on

(18:03):
the courses and let's freakingrock and roll.
Mark said Jeb's beard isglorious.
Going back to 17 hatch Jeb'sbeard.
Yep, good to see Lisa in thehouse.
Lisa's preferred CRM is Moxie,as you can see, and that's all
right.
Whatever works for you, that'swhat I'd recommend.
All right guys.

(18:24):
Hey, sullivan, welcome in.
All I can think of is MonstersUniversity and Monsters Inc,
because my kiddos love themonster movies and I do too.
So, sully, never made it to alive webinar.
I'm still good to have you here.
Well, it's a little bitdifferent than a webinar, just
because I view a webinar as likea training and something like a
Q&A afterwards.
This is just kind of a casualQ&A session.

(18:45):
Ama, ask me anything if youwill.
So good to have you.
If you guys have questions,sullivan or anyone else, jump on
in the chat and hit me, justlike AJ and a few others have
done.
Matt said definitely need to geton your groups and courses.
Love everything you do.
Awesome, matt.
Hey, jump on in, we'd love tohave you Again.

(19:06):
Awesome, matt.
Hey, jump on in, we'd love tohave you again.
For those who just joined us, weright now I've got a special
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Baby 50 off, um, matt.
For you and those of you whowant to get more access to
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(19:28):
can get access to pro, all mycourses, the entire community,
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So it's normally it's 99 amonth, but your first month is
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So that's what I would do, matt, and then I'll follow up with
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Number one everyone who joinsthe community tier gets a
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So I'll follow up with you andgive you some.

(19:48):
I'll give you a coaching boost.
How's that sound?
Anyone who joins at thecommunity tier this month, I'll
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and you can hit me back.
All right, aj wanted to know.
Recently landed a dentist site.
Way to go, aj.
He hired me to redesign hiswebsite and agreed to pay me
$500 bonus for dental implantleads that become paying

(20:12):
patients.
How might you go about this?
So, for dental implant leadsthat become paying patients, oh,
okay, okay, make sure Iunderstand that Right and agreed
to pay me, okay.
So I suppose with any type ofaffiliate or referral bonus, the

(20:33):
real question is, like, how doyou keep track of that?
I will say, deals like thatsound really cool at first, but
implementation of that week toweek, month to month, becomes a
bit of a like who's like.
Is he really going to keeptrack of all those?
Are you really going to keeptrack of all those?
So I mean, I would sure I guessI guess, yeah, like, absolutely

(20:57):
.
Um, or are those through thewebsite?
He agreed to pay me a $500bonus for dental implant leads
that become paying patients.
Yeah, I guess it would just be,depending on how it's tracked.
The only caveat and heads up onthis is you're almost getting
into, like, referral partnerterritory, which can be really

(21:20):
good, but I guess you got tokind of.
I think, aj, you need to askyourself do you trust this
dentist?
Is there a good mutualrelationship on this?
If there is, awesome, but Iwould just make sure that it's
something that is going to bemanaged well, week to week and
month to month.
Um, if anything, I would justsay, like, try it out as a bit

(21:41):
of a sprint, like do it for thefirst couple of months and see
how that goes.
Yeah, so I hope that helps.
I'd say, go for it, but trustyour gut on that one.
Pradeep is in the house.
Welcome, pradeep from India.
I've been following yourcontent and want to learn from
you web design, shine, roll andWordPress and Divi and does that
teach you how to get clientsconsistently?
Yes, yes and yes, pradeep.

(22:03):
So what I would do I wouldrecommend for you, if you're
really just in the learningphase and you just want to learn
, if you're not ready to engagein the community yet but you
want to just learn some of thestuff, use that coupon code I
have below for you.
Again, it's right there.
I would just jump into thecourses Um April 50, we'll give
you your first month at 50% off.
What I would do for you, pradeep, is I would go through the Divi

(22:26):
WordPress course, if you wanthelp with that, and then you can
go through my process course,my design course, my SEO course,
all the best practice courses.
But I would say you couldprobably jump into the business
course to get clients prettyquickly.
For those who don't know, letme just share my screen here for

(22:47):
you real quick.
When you join even just thecourses you will get access to
my recommended course path.
So I have an entire suite ofcourses that guide you from kind
of point A to point B withbuilding your web design
business, and you'll see here,this is the path I recommend.
I recommend if you don't useDivi or WordPress, you can start
right here, and I say that inthis video.

(23:08):
If you use ShowIt orSquarespace or Wix Studio, start
right here, because the processdesign, seo, it's all about the
same, and then I'd probablyjump into the business course
and then in the business courseyou could jump right to the
lessons on getting clients foryou, specifically Pradeep.
So that's probably, yeah,that's what I'd recommend.
So let me know if that helpsyou out.

(23:28):
Excited to help you.
Yeah, hard no, says Lisa.
As far as the referral stuff,yeah, again, it just gets a
little.
I think a lot of times too, Ihad this happen with my old CPA,
because they act very, um, verylike the AJ situation.
They referred me to a dentistand I did a $10,000 proposal.

(23:52):
Uh, I didn't end up landingthat one.
But they heard about the pricepoint and they were like, can we
set up a referral program withyou for like 10% off of all the
leads we send you?
And uh, on that one we didn't,just because it's just a lot to
track.
I've actually found, like your,your best leads and referral
sources generally just do itjust out of the goodness of

(24:13):
their heart and just being afellow business owner, as long
as it's reciprocated.
So, like my SEO guy, myvideographer, we never had an
official affiliate deal, um,mainly because you've got to
manually track it.
It's so different when you're anaffiliate for a product or a
course or a program, like a lotof you here, your affiliates for

(24:33):
web designer pro.
That's something you guys cando.
When you join the community,you can be an affiliate, um,
which is recurring, by the way,20% recurring a month, which is
the beauty about affiliateprograms that are ongoing for
memberships or SaaS products.
But all that to say it'sautomated.
So, like I don't need to trackdown members of pro who are
affiliates and say, hey, howmany people did you send my way?

(24:56):
Did any of them sign up?
No, it's all automated.
So that's the struggle withthat.
I think AJ and anyone who's inthis situation where someone
offers to give you a bonus orreferral or a kickback when you
do that so yeah, yeah, I'd be alittle on the leery side of that
for sure.
Awesome, no problem, ben, gladthat helped.

(25:17):
Oh, thank you, lisa.
Best investment you ever makein your business, says, says
Lisa Been in Josh's world forover four years now Super worth
every penny.
Thank you, lisa.
Yeah, lisa, you're one of ourfirst members in Pro.
Lisa is a OG founding member,even did a training last year
about or was it the year beforeLisa?
About how to do quarterlystrategy calls on your

(25:41):
maintenance plans for clients,which have led to literally tens
of thousands of dollars ofextra revenue for Lisa.
So that's the one cool thingabout what's going on in pro
right now, guys is like I neverpersonally did quarterly
strategy calls, but Lisa starteddoing it and then, when I got
to see her business go up intothe right with those quarterly
strategy calls being a big partof it.

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So instead of me trying to justcome up with some sort of
curriculum, we just did atraining and Lisa shared her
system on exactly how she doesit.
That's available in pro for you.
So come on in, guys, let's helpyou make some money and help
your clients and help yourfamilies and help your community
and all the good things thatcome with a successful business.

(26:23):
Ben would like to know any ideasto promote new recurring
services to existing clients.
Well, the big thing is to justmake the offer, ben.
So there's kind of two thingshere.
One is to have a recurringservice or to add something new,
or to add value to an existingone.
Case in point since we justtalked about Lisa's quarterly

(26:43):
strategy calls, let's use thatas an example, ben, let's say
you're doing monthly maintenanceplans and right now you just
cover basic support maintenance,maybe up to an hour of your
time per month, which is what Iteach in my course.
But let's say you want to add aquarterly strategy calls, either
as a part of the, the packagethat people are enrolled in, or

(27:06):
they could upgrade to get thatlike top tier maintenance
support.
That now comes with a quarterlystrategy call, which positions
you as more like an expert.
That's how I would go about.
That is, I would say hey,you've been on our plan, I'm
gonna let you know we have a newoption now to where you and I
can meet every quarter.
We can review your website, wecan view the stats, we can look

(27:27):
at your bounce rates, yourtraffic, we can look at your
conversions, we can talk aboutyour business and see what we
can do with the website and,additionally, that's where you
can lead into either marketingplans or growth plans or other
recurring services that you have.
So, ben, I don't know what yourcurrent pool of clients looks
like, but I would just startwith a new offer that is almost

(27:50):
like a bit of a no brainerupsell to what they have.
Or the other thing you can dois, if you have really good
clients on maintenance plans,just do a quarterly strategy
call and just offer at one time.
I would say like, hey, for allof our support plan clients
right now we are doing I've gotlike 10 spots this month you

(28:10):
could do a, you could get astrategy call on me limited time
, limited availability.
Add some urgency and scarcityin there which is not fake
because you only have so muchtime during the day for calls
and have them do a littlestrategy call, which could be
really open-ended, really casual, but that will lead to more
work and then you have yourrecurring services ready to go.

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An additional offer for again,this is where it totally depends
on what you want to do and whatyou want to offer with other
additional MRR services monthlyrecurring revenue.
Maybe it's SEO, maybe it'songoing copy, maybe you're doing
blog posts, maybe doing emailmarketing and email lead
generation.
Maybe you're doing CROconversion rate optimization for
existing sites, maybe you'redoing other marketing services

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along the website.
All of those things are thingsthat could be wrapped up in
either a growth plan or somesort of marketing plan that is
monthly recurring that youupsell off of your current
client list.
So let me know if that helps.
Ben, good copy for those leadsAll right.

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Distracted learner I like that.
Ah, that's like I mean.
Could there be a more ideal webdesigner persona?
Awesome, I'm glad that helped.
I'm glad that helped.
Distracted learner All right,sullivan, I've been working
through the courses.
They're super helpful.
What do you suggest for startinga site from a?
Oh, here we go.
Oh, the suspense.

(29:35):
Uh, from a template.
I use the site ground migrator,but it's kind of a process, so
there's a couple of differentways to do that.
If you're going to start from atemplate.
You can absolutely useSiteGround because you can
create staging sites throughSiteGround.
The other thing you could dowhat I did for a long time was I
used ManageWP to managemultiple WordPress sites and I

(29:58):
actually had a few templatesthat were starting templates in
ManageWP.
So all I'd have to do is, ifit's an e-commerce site, we go
to the e-commerce startingtemplate.
You just clone that over towhatever domain it's going to
whether it's a live site orwhether it's a test domain and a
couple of minutes.
But SiteGround staging sites,you could do something similar.

(30:18):
Let me look real quick.
Yeah, yeah, staging copies.
Yeah, so I tell you what.
I'm going to drop this in thechat for you, sullivan, because

(30:38):
here is the the main resourcesfor, like, staging sites in
SiteGround.
So, yeah, there's a fewdifferent ones here.
Again, I use manage WP for this, just because I was just so
used to and I think actually atthat time, I think SiteGround
didn't even have that manycloning or staging options at

(30:58):
that point, but they do now.
So I would try to do it nativelythrough SiteGround, just
because you're probably going tobe able to get them out faster,
managing your staging sites.
So, yeah, here you can deploythem destroy like that, or you
can replicate them.
So yeah, I would shoot for that.
You'll probably replicate itand then go from there.

(31:19):
Um no, sorry, I do not have adiscount or an offer for man's
WP.
I years ago I asked them aboutan affiliate program or
something, but um no, I don'thave anything.
Now I haven't talked to anybodyfrom the team in a long time.
So good point, sullivan, I'mgoing to screenshot this and I'm

(31:41):
going to message them to say,hey, let's partner up.
I've got people literallyasking to get a deal to jump in
to try it out.
So I'm going to send that over.
Awesome, so let me know if thathelps.
Again, I would do it.
The cool thing is a managed WPit's it's dirt cheap for the
functionality you get.
So I would try site groundfirst and then I would not worst

(32:05):
case, but plan B would be to goto um managed WP.
Aj, thank you for everything,josh.
I've been listening to yourpodcast for a few years.
I'll be sure to jump on yourApril 50 deal and join the
community.
All right, aj, pumped to haveyou in pro.
The details are down below foranyone who wants to jump into
pro with the 50 percent off onme on the first month.

(32:26):
So, aj, if you join thecommunity here, I'll follow
right up with you.
I will send you a welcome videopersonally and we'll take a
look at where you're at.
And, um, the goal is to get yousome quick wins, and by quick,
quick wins I mean, um, revenueboosts ASAP as possible.
All right, guys, let me jumpback up to see if I can find

(32:48):
some questions here.
Plenty of questions.
So I'm going to try to answersome of these next questions a
little quicker, just to getcaught up, All right, hey, frank
, speaking of training, wouldyou ever consider doing a live
training, for example, a 12 weekclass one day a week?
Thought about it, frank.
I have thought about it.

(33:08):
Um, it kind of depends on likeI would do.
I'm considering eventuallydoing some sort of like higher
level mastery type program,which would be taking everything
from the courses but just goinga little bit deeper into offers

(33:29):
, marketing, uh, and some of thethings like that.
The only thing about and I lovethe idea of live trainings, but
a 12-week deal is three months.
That's a long deal.
The only problem with that isI'm all about creating content
and investing my time intosomething that's going to last
for years in most cases.
So if I were to do a 12-weekclass, I would want to make sure

(33:51):
it could be really repurposedand tightened up for future
years.
Sure, it could be reallyrepurposed and tightened up for
future years.
But you guys tell me like Idon't love watching live
training replays.
The beauty about doing anintentional course when it's not
recorded live is I can bereally concise and really direct
and a little more not scriptedbut just to the point on things,

(34:12):
whereas live it's easy toramble a little bit.
Scripted, but just to the pointon things, whereas live it's
easy to ramble a little bit.
Now you can edit things, butthe production value on like a
prerecorded course is usuallymore sustainable for years to
come.
That's kind of the the the mainreason I don't do live stuff as
much.
Now this point though, frank,I'm glad you mentioned this
because I am considering doingmore like shorter sprints, like

(34:34):
maybe I'll do a four week livetraining and then the next step
from that is with those livetrainings going back into my
full course or my scaling courseor something like that.
So I'll definitely considersome sort of more live training,
frank, but for those reasons, Iprefer to do just prerecorded

(34:56):
content.
They just seem to last and havemore longevity.
Yep, yep, it's good stuff inthe chat here, guys.
Ah, matt has been well, congratson being a new dad, matt,
congrats, realizing I'mundercharging.
And not raise rates in 10 years.
Woo, yes, uh, dough is right.

(35:17):
And, and Homer Simpsonterminology, yeah, there's
nothing like having a kid tomake you realize you need to
raise your rates.
Right, that's so true.
But also, guys, if you have notraised your rates, and even
less than two years, guess whattime it is raising your rates?
Time.
So you got to raise your rates.
I mean, that's just not like.

(35:38):
Look at every single businessin the world.
They raise their rates to keepup with inflation and costs and
everything else.
Don't feel like you are gougingcustomers and clients by
raising your rates, especiallyif it's in a decade.
So raise those rates, matt forsure.
Good to see Austin in the house.
Awesome.

(36:01):
The dentist is paying me 1500for the website redesign for in
a month for ongoing support ohnice, and 500 for all those
dental implant patients.
So I mean, yeah, aj, thatsounds like a killer deal.
Man, I'll follow up with you inpro, since you're joining and
then we'll talk about that.
I really, I mean, I would say,go for it, there's nothing,
there's no reason not to do that.
So heck, yeah, yeah, sweet,sweet, sweet, oh, lisa, you are

(36:26):
too much Awesome guys.
All right, sweet, aj, I'll seein pro.
Good to see Antoine in thehouse.
Antoine, I'm looking forward tomeeting you next weekend in
person.
For those who don't know, umwith web designer pro, we have
our first in person conferencenext weekend.
I can't believe.
It's next weekend, friday May2nd through Saturday May 3rd.

(36:49):
Antoine's going to be there.
You mentioned using businesses,using Google business profile
set up to get web designcustomers.
Yes, then can the up Sam withthen can was one, but I couldn't
remember.
The second thought it was you,kiki, but I can't find them.
Ah, yes, yes, so it is a hardone to spell, isn't Chris, who

(37:10):
is a founding member, a webdesigner pro?
I will put his, I will put thelink to both Venkan and Yukiki
in the chat.
So, yeah, I will tell you rightnow, chris, over here with
Yukiki.
So I think it was probably justspelled wrong, antoine, which
is easy to do because it's ahard brand name.

(37:31):
But yeah, they do a lot oflocal SEO in and around Google
business service.
That's actually one of his coreservices, one of the big lead
lead in.
So, yeah, og member of webdesigner pro here, chris, um,
he's just a wild man and he'sawesome.
I haven't talked with Chris ina little bit so I got to
reconnect with him, but a greatexample and I'll tell you guys

(37:52):
right now uh, him and his teamare doing very, very, very well,
with the emphasis on local SEO.
So not for everybody.
You got to like it.
He loves SEO.
It's where he started at.
So you know, seo is not foreveryone.
That's the beauty about webdesign.
No, you don't even have totouch SEO If you don't want to.
You could partner up withsomebody who does, but I would

(38:15):
recommend doing that and then,yeah, then can.
Uh, oh, that's his YouTube.
Okay, then can design.
You can check out Sam.
Sam is a um is actually a notonly a member of pro, but a

(38:37):
partner for web designer pro,because he has his own little
SEO Academy, local SEO Academy,so you can check this out too.
Um, how and how he structureshis local SEO services.
Um, I think Sam would becomfortable in me letting you
know that he is on track for aquarter million dollars this

(38:57):
year in revenue after Q1, withlocal SEO as the main service.
So Sam is absolutely killing itwith his local SEO services.
So I highly recommend checkingout as an example.
There's some free stuff thereand if you join pro, there's

(39:17):
actually a discount for you Ifyou would like to check out his
look.
All right, let's get back tosome questions here.
Uh, antoine said you mentioned.
Oh, okay, we got that one.
Awesome, Antoine.
Yeah, looking to see you inperson here.
All right, next weekend Alwaysfelt a strategy call for

(39:39):
existing clients to be free tomaintain that relationship.
Yeah, it absolutely can be, andthat's one thing that Lisa is
continuing to do and kind ofteaches with.
What has worked for Lisa withmore revenue is not to charge
for those, but those strategycalls lead to more work.
So, yeah, in most cases, ben,depending on how many clients
you have.
That's another big question onthis is I would go ahead and do

(40:05):
those for free quarterly if youcan manage it, but then that's
your perfect time to upsell toadditional recurring services
and just one-time services aswell.
So cool, glad that helped Ben.
Services and just one-timeservices as well.
So cool, glad that helped, ben.
And for those of you who areready to jump on in, you can
jump into pro.
The details are below for you.
But when you jump into pro, I'mgoing to show you where you can

(40:25):
access this training.
This is on the community level.
If you go to the traininglibrary which are not courses,
these are guest expert trainingshere is Lisa's training on
quarterly strategy calls, so shewill show you exactly what to
do, and all of our guest experttrainings, like in this case.

(40:45):
Let's look at it real quick.
Lisa's here.
I know, lisa, you're down withme giving everyone some some
tips on this, but there was one.
Yeah, lisa literally outlineshow she structures the strategy
calls based on how her formlooks, the key details of the
call and I mean this isn't evenI don't know what their latest

(41:08):
numbers are, but in 2023, lisahad over 13, almost $14,000
worth of additional revenue justby offering these strategy
calls in Q1 of 2024.
It was over 5,000.
So, lisa, off to get someupdated numbers from 2024 on how
these strategy calls havehelped you, although I know your

(41:28):
focus has been on some Moxiestuff recently.
But yeah, you guys can jumpinto this training and get
everything you need when youjoin the community tier Awesome
guys.
All right, let's jump back intosome more questions.
Um, memorizely has a goodplatform.

(41:50):
Maybe you should consider it.
Not familiar with that?
Good to know, haven't heard.
There's just so many tools outthere.
My goodness.
Yeah, antoine, pumped to seeyou next weekend, man, and
Jason's going to be there too.
I know you're in Jason's world,jason Grascia, with Swift sites.
Who, antoine, I don't know youactually, I think already know
about this.
But, um, this afternoon andjust over an hour, we have a web

(42:13):
designer Pro hangout call withJason Gracia of SwiftSites.
For those who aren't familiarSwiftSites, he has literally the
most productized slick systemfor his clients.
Jason has done literallymulti-seven figures based off of

(42:34):
this done for you model, but hehad a custom system built for
his websites that helps withcontent collection and the whole
deal.
He is considering making afranchise style option based off
of this system.
So today we're going to havehim in pro and just have some
time to ask some questions aboutwhat that would look like.
So yet another reason to jumpinto pro, because you guys could

(42:57):
jump on that call with us todayand we can.
Uh, it's not gonna be foreverybody but anyone interested
in focusing less on the actualdevelopment and design and just
focus on marketing and sales.
That's going to be ideal.
Or you can make a low endproductize offer with with that,
potentially.
Do you have any info on how todo a grand opening with steps to

(43:17):
get ready in Web Designer Pro?
Yeah, I do, I actually.
So when you join, there's arecommended path for you, and if
you just joined the coursestier, there's a path that guides
you through the recommendedcore, like the course path that
I would take.
Um, in the community level.
Let me show you real quick.
I do have success pathways allguided and ready for you.

(43:40):
So, yeah, you're not going tojump in there and be like I
don't, I don't know what to do.
It's all guided for you.
Um, hold on one sec.
Let me show you.
My mouse has stopped working.
Don't tell me this is out ofbatteries.
Hold on, I may need to changemy batteries.
Hold on, let's see.

(44:01):
There we go, it's working.
So what you can do is when youjump on into pro, there's
actually a member guide thatgives you a walkthrough of.
It's the best place to start.
It gives you a walkthrough ofpro and everything.
And then I have these successpathways.
There is a pathway for those ofyou who are in the building

(44:26):
stage of your web designbusiness, with some tips and
resources to help get you going.
Those of you who already have abusiness in place but you're
looking to grow it and get tosix figures there's a pathway
here for you to get started on.
And then those of you who havean established business and
you're actually scaling there isa pathway here to help you get

(44:46):
going with scaling your webdesign business.
So those are all available,ready to go here for you.
Distracted learner Any questions?
Let me know on that.
Otherwise, yep, you jump on inand then I'll guide you with
where you need to go.
Guide you where you need to goin pro, we can start rhyming.
Make it fun.
Uh pretty.
What kind of service I have topackage to get consistent

(45:09):
clients and AI agents are comingto this WordPress.
So Divi relevant.
So there are AI capabilities inDivi.
You can do starter sites withDivi.
Now it's still with Divi 4.
I would probably hold off onthat till Divi 5 is officially
released.
But yeah, I mean honestly, Iwouldn't worry.

(45:30):
The technology.
It's funny because all thosethings can help get sites off
the ground, but really to getclients consistently, you just
need to do good work and bethere for clients to help them
grow their business.
That's the biggest tip for webdesigners in 2025.
I don't want to devalue designand the actual skill set of

(45:52):
building websites, because thatis crucial.
It's super important.
But I'll tell you right nowwhat's working for web designers
who are killing it is they arehelping their clients grow their
business with the website asone of the key aspects of that.
So I would really have thatmindset even starting off.

(46:13):
I know you're a beginner,pradeep, but think about how you
can help clients.
Don't think about just thetechnology of building websites.
When you start to get clients.
I mean know how to buildwebsites.
Good, go through my courses.
You'll be ready, set to go.
After that, it'll give you thefoundation but then immediately

(46:34):
transition to how can I make awebsite, even if it's super
simple, quote, unquote thatactually gets more leads through
the door for my client, becauseif you focus on that, that's
when you won't need to hunt forclients and you'll get referrals
and you'll have a consistentgood offer.
Uh, there is.
I do have a podcast about how tobuild a portfolio with no

(46:56):
clients.
I want to say it was early on.
Is it episode 32?
Let's see if I remember thatcorrectly.
Nope, that's not right.
Let's go.
Let me find that podcast foryou.
Anyone who is interested inknowing how to build a portfolio
, by the way, but you don't haveany paying clients, let's have

(47:24):
a look.
See, give me one sec.
I was going to pull this uphere.
Oh, there's a lot to hold on asec.
Uh, I need to make a betterresource that's searchable on
this.
We're going to do buildportfolio one 32.

(47:51):
That's what it was.
It was one 32.
All right, pretty, here you go.
This is the.
This is a podcast episode, so,totally free, guys.
Here's the recommendations.
It's to build a site for freeIf you feel comfortable with it,
just to have constraints onthat.
By the way, I'll teach youabout that.
Build some mock-ups Uh, there'ssome recommendations here for

(48:12):
you.
The big thing to remember withthis, too, is when you build a
couple sites, don't worry abouthow many sites are in your
portfolio.
Just call it featured work orrecent work, and that would be
the good one.
What's up with your hair?
10, 10, that's the big question.
Uh, well, I'm getting a haircuton monday, if you must know.

(48:34):
So, yeah, we're feeling alittle.
It's just zipping up there.
I can do a lot with my hairpretty quick, so I mean, it can
look, you, we can make it lookwild.
If you want, you want to lookwild.
Would you guys like to do thehawk there?
We go, how's that?
How's that?
Tin, tin, that better, we'regonna go the hawk today.
That's how we're gonna finishthis q.
A best question of the day.

(48:55):
But, yes, I am getting ahaircut on Monday, so, uh, also,
my kiddos are playing outsidetoday, so I think we're going to
do a little playing at somepoint.
And, uh, I have three kids whoI carry on my shoulders and my
hair gets wild.
So that's what was going on.
I have a whole inbox as Sullivandedicated to newsletters for
people that come on the podcastand partners for WebCenter Pro,

(49:17):
just to access all the wisdomy'all share.
That's awesome, sullivan.
What an incredible thing toknow.
Thank you for that.
That is too cool.
Yeah, because I do really tryto make sure I'm vetting guests
to make sure anyone who's on theshow is going to be legit.
Congrats, Lisa.
Strategy calls accounted to anadditional 15 K for Lisa last

(49:38):
year Awesome, awesome, awesome.
And again for you, lisa.
I know that wasn't priority onesince you were so focused on
your kind of side hustle withMoxie, so that makes sense.
Uh, yeah, sullivan, the Swiftsites call is for community
level members.
Yeah, yeah, the courses tierjust gets you access to the
courses and a few additionaltraining resources.
Um, and audio courses.

(49:58):
By the way, I don't know if youguys knew this, but you can
access a handful of my coursesin audio form.
So any tier you join a webdesigner pro you will get.
Like, here you go.
You can listen to the businesscourse, you can listen to the
maintenance plan course on audio.
Ready to go for it?
But, yes, the group calls theweekly coat, the weekly calls

(50:22):
that we do with members.
That is, for community tiermembers.
Yep, all right.
Another good question here I'minterested in providing white
label services for other webdesigners who are overwhelmed
with their workload.
Any tips on where to find thesepeople and how to best
communicate that I can help?
Softball question on this.
One Web designer pro is.

(50:42):
I mean, honestly, the thingabout Facebook groups.
You could do free Facebookgroups, but most of them have a
policy to where you can't offeryour services.
We do have that available inWeb Designer Pro.
But caveat, and what myrecommendation is not and this
is just a general recommendationwhether you join pro or whether
you go elsewhere, don't just goout and say, hey, this is what

(51:05):
I do, I can help you or can youhire me?
What I would do is number onejust be really helpful and
engaged in posts, because if youdo that, you will get leads.
It's exactly how I got clientsthrough Facebook groups and how
a lot of folks I've had on thepodcast who are white label
designers get leads is they joinFacebook groups and they're

(51:27):
just really helpful and theyhave eyes on them.
People notice that stuff.
So I would start there and thenhave a really.
I guess what I would say is bereferable, meaning have a really
clear set of skill sets.
Even if you do a lot more, haveone or two defining things
about you.
That just makes you easilyreferable.

(51:50):
We have some folks in pro whoare easily referable because
they have skill sets in a fewthings and, yes, they do a ton
of other things, but I knowthey're just really dang good at
this and I think they're goingto be a good fit for that.
Case in point Christian, mydeveloper, who's worked with me
for years.
He was originally a student inmy business course and joined my

(52:10):
Divi Facebook group back when,and he was just really great at
WordPress development.
He could figure stuff out.
So anytime there's somethingthat's intricate with WordPress,
he's the guy.
He is the guy.
And then if you would like tojoin the community level, so
have those two things in mind.
But inside of Pro, what you cando is have that in mind, but

(52:34):
then we at the community level,you can join the pros for hire
space.
So we have pros, and this isexactly how I frame it, because
referrals are happening forpeople every day like this and,
by the way, members, when theyneed help.
A lot of members are nowlooking in pro.
First.
They go to the pros for hireand you can see here who does

(52:57):
what.
Barbara does DNS name serversand D domain email.
Um, rebecca is doing socialmedia marketing.
James is doing or looking forgraphic designers.
So I need to actually post thatto you.
You can use this for showingyour stuff off and getting work,
but what I recommend doing issaying your specialty, your
platform of choice, which is abiggie, your builder of choice

(53:19):
If you use WordPress hourly rateor retainer packages and then
recent work.
So these five things are what Iwould recommend that you have
in place to answer this questionof how do you go about that.
Again, you can do it in pro,but I would still recommend you
know.
I mean you could, you couldliterally jump in and post

(53:41):
something in here, but you know,if it's pro is not something to
jump in and jump out of.
Especially the community tier,like people who are seen and
people who you know are going tobe there for a while, are the
people who are getting work.
So I would not recommendjumping into pro just to try to
get quick work.
Um, probably not going tohappen.
I would join pro, be a part ofthe community, be really helpful
in forums, see if it's a goodfit for you and then offer it up

(54:04):
as as need be.
But a lot of times we have thispost, an opportunity thread,
which happens all the time.
Let's see how manyopportunities have happened the
last month alone.
So in the last four weeks we'vehad quote, unquote officially,
because there are a lot of dealsgoing on that I don't even know
about in here, but one, two,three, four, five, six, seven,

(54:27):
eight and just the last monthalone that had been posted in
pro.
So Josh was looking for paidmembership help.
Ben needed help with design.
Wix studio offer help with VAwebsite.
Divi hourly work, in-foldexpert designer help and Rive
designers a Rive designer.
So that's what's going on inpro in the way of like white

(54:48):
labeling and additional help aswell.
So again, there's a deal belowfor you guys which is right here
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So let me know if that helps tothe.
The more important thing is tocome across helpful and honestly
, just consistent, and thatthat's the big one.

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Yeah, cause nobody is going tohire the dip in and outer crowd
and I'm not saying you are, I'mjust saying it's really common
in web design where somebody islike hire me real quick, but as
a serious business owner and aweb designer who is potentially
taking the chance on somebodyyou like, they need to be

(55:32):
cognizant of having help intheir sphere and for their work.
So it's something that's notgoing to be taken lightly.
Is what I'm trying to say.
Wanted to stop by.
Hey, carlos, good to see you,man.
It's been a little while sincewe chatted.
Thanks, josh.
Being a pro has helped me learnso much about business and web
design.
Now I just need to execute.
Yes, carlos, time to execute.

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So, carlos, send me a note inpro.
I'll follow up with you.
I'd love to hear we could comeup with a little bit of an
action plan.
Let's get like a little 90 dayaction plan together, based off
either a revenue target or somethings you want to focus on,
cause, yeah, you've beenlearning a lot and you've been
engaged, but now it's time tohit the pavement and go.
So let's freaking rock and roll.

(56:12):
To hit the pavement and go.
So let's freaking rock and roll.
Oh, thank you, justin.
With Web of Logic pros helpedhim streamline processes, picked
up your fourth SEO client todayon a month retrainer.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Hold on, justin.
That requires a round Round ofapplause.

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Fourth SEO client.
I want to hear about thedetails on that, justin.
Justin's been a member of Profor a long time, so send me a
note on that if you would.
I would love to know.
Obviously, we don't have totalk about this publicly, but I
want to know what that deal isand where your MRR is with your
SEO plan.
I mean, if you're down withsharing it in the chat publicly
so people can see what ispossible, awesome.
But if you want to keep thatprivate, dm me, justin, and I'd

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love to hear about where MRR is.
Hair raising, web design tipsper the uh per the hair stuff
Awesome, well done, great, great, great, great pun, justin.
All right guys.
Russ, wow're almost on an hour.
Gosh, that was fast.
We'll do a final call forquestions.
Guys, pop your questions in thechat.

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Final call here.
Russ, do you feel like you'renot utilizing AI to the best of
your ability for web design?
I feel like I need to improvemy use of it.
So many possibilities and I'mstill using it for basic stuff.
I think that's fine, russ.
I mean, there's a few andactually very timely.
Today on the podcast, I justposted a bonus episode about

(57:40):
some thoughts on where I standon AI and web design.
It's definitely something notto be avoided or feared the big.
I think a lot of peopleinitially think about AI and web
design and think about it increating a template site in like
60 seconds or whatever, andthere may be a time and a place
for that and room for that as astarting place.

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But I've never seen, to thispoint, ai do a great job at
building out a site.
That's like damn, that isabsolutely killer.
No, it's pretty boilerplate,pretty templated.
Now it's going to come alongover the next few years for sure
, maybe sooner than that.
But I would think about AI andweb design outside of just the
design, and I would think aboutit in ways that are going to

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help you with your systems, yourprocesses and even like lead
generation.
Lead generation this week wetalked about the coaching tier
of Web Designer Pro, which isnearing capacity right now.
We had a coaching chat thisweek about networking locally
and figuring out where the bestplaces are and, for example, you

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can use chat GPT and say, likein my area, what are some good
local networking, let's do itlive.
Let's do it live real quick.
So you put your put yourself inthe shoot, like in your
hometown.
But let me say what I'm a webdesigner looking for clients in

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Columbus Ohio Are some goodnetworking events or referral
groups or business meetups thatare available to get Local
clients.
So here we go.

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I mean this is the way you canuse AI.
That's not designing a site butactually helping you.
I mean, obviously this is stuffthat's in my business course
and everything, but this is alittle more like in your city
because I have generalprinciples and stuff, but you
can use AI like this to help youactually build your business.
So here we go In Columbus, ohio, bni Central we talked about

(59:58):
BNI a little bit ago.
It's a global organization.
I've never even heard of CorgCentral Ohio Referral Group.
I have never heard of that.
So that's news to me.
Networking professionals atColumbus Yep, that's a big one.
Amspirit this is actually thenetworking group that I was a
part of.
That was over 50% of my revenue.
Buckeye Referral Club and thenthere's Design and Tech Meetups

(01:00:22):
right here.
Entrepreneurial community so doyou guys see like this is where
AI should not be overlooked orso useful, because you can use
it to so many different ways andof course, we can use it for
code, we can use it for ideastroubleshooting.
One way you can use it I justhad.

(01:00:43):
I had um Kristen, who is a pod,a podcast guest here recently
who serves coaches and speakers,and she actually trains her
chat GPT a special GPT, uh, andshe fields all of her client
questions and information inthere and it's become her like
custom content generator for herniche.

(01:01:06):
So there's just a couple ofdifferent ways you can use AI
Russ, so let me know if you help.
That helps and I hope thatgives everyone some ideas on how
to use chat, gpt and some otheragain whether it's Claude or
Jim and I or whatever it is tohelp you guys with some of the
business side of web designthat's outside of just using a

(01:01:27):
builder.
But again, there's a lot ofdifferent ways that can help you
with the building side ofthings.
Awesome, glad that helped guys.
Yes, alexia says one of myfavorite parts of pro is the
community.
Alexia, I'm so excited to seeyou next weekend at our web
designer pro con event Going tobe freaking awesome.
Yeah, way to go, justin, onyour fourth MRR local SEO client

(01:01:53):
.
Can't wait to hear about that.
The part-time framer, websenderPro has been super helpful,
drinking from a fire hydrant attimes by learning so much.
Six clients now and growing.
Oh, way to go, that's awesome,huge win.
Six clients and growingWonderful, wonderful, wonderful.
I think you're probably.

(01:02:14):
You're probably in the pointright now where you yeah, like I
said, drinking from a fire hose, so much to learn.
But you're probably going toturn the corner here, if you
haven't already, to where it'smore about implementation and
there's a little less like newknowledge constantly and it's a
little more like refining what'sin place.
So I think you're in the nextchapter there.

(01:02:35):
But again, congrats.
Another round of applause.
We can wait to go.
Awesome, awesome, awesome.
All right guys.
Last couple of questions.
We wrap this up.
Yes, jennifer, don't forget thechamber.
Yep, absolutely.
A chamber of commerce is one ofthe first ones I recommend in
the business course when itcomes to networking locally.

(01:02:55):
The cool thing about Chambersis you're like automatically on
a directory with other localbusinesses and it gives you some
cred because you're notsomebody who they're like.
Is this, you know?
Is Jennifer going to be inbusiness next month?
Like, she's still active in thechamber and usually there is
some sort of fee, minimal, butit does show that you're legit.

(01:03:17):
All right guys.
Any final questions?
I can go for a couple moreminutes.
Any final questions.
Top tip from Justin, after Itake a quick drink of water
Build sites for clients thatwork for businesses.
Yes, for example, virtualassistants and accountants Great
source for referral leads.

(01:03:38):
Ah, true, true that Businesscoaches.
Yes, yeah, think about buildinga site for a client who has
access to business people.
That's.
One of my best referralpartners was a business coaching
program that I actually wentthrough, and before I did that
they were a client I met throughmy local networking group, by

(01:03:58):
the way, amspirit, and yeah,they're freaking awesome because
who did they have as customers?
Businesses, small businessesand when small businesses had a
shitty website, they were likeyou got to talk to Josh, he's in
our program Super handsome,great guy, great wild hair.
He'll get you taken care of.
So that's how to go.
That's how to do it.

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If you are too busy, it might betime to raise your rates.
Justin, in with the hits today.
Yes, justin, couldn't agreemore.
It is.
There's two options you canhire out and delegate to get
more help to get more projectsout the door and or raise your
rates.
I would do both.
Last question oh, it's not aquestion, but Pandora says been

(01:04:41):
listening in the backgroundwhile multitasking.
Awesome, pandora, it's good tosee you.
Hope this has helped.
Any final questions guys, russ,appreciate the AI answer.
Great, russ, let me know howthat helps.
Again, for those of you who havebeen on the fence or interested
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That works on both the coursestier or the community tier.
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I'll give you a little bit of acoaching boost to get you going.
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go from there.
All right, guys.
Well, to wrap this up, I wouldlove to know what was one
takeaway from today.
We covered a lot of groundbetween SEO, ai clients, local

(01:05:52):
SEO, marketing.
Let me know if you would.
A takeaway from today.
I would love to know somethingthat stuck with you, just for my
reference.
As far as content movingforward, I want to see what's
helping you guys when what'sresonating with you.
Jeremy says thanks for the Q&Asession.
Heck, yeah, jeremy, good to seeyou.
Hope this was helpful.
Man Jeff says thanks for theinsight and community.

(01:06:14):
You Hope this was helpful.
Man Jeff says thanks for theinsight and community.
Absolutely, jeff.
Uh, the coupon is good through.
I've made it available throughthe end of April.
So as long as you jump on it bythe end of April, you're good
to go.
That is open.
But I would jump in you knownow if you're, if you're ready
to go, especially if you want tojoin our call with Jason in one
hour to talk about that, like I.
Antoine, hopefully we'll.

(01:06:35):
Yeah, good to see Antoine takeaction.
He says all right, guys, I'mgoing to hang around for one
more minute.
Anybody have any takeawaysthey'd like to share from today?
Today was actually a goodreminder and a prompt for me to
use chat GPT for like pertinent,relevant, timely local business

(01:06:56):
networking events.
Again, I'll share my screenreal quick.
This was my chat GPT searchabout local networking events
near me in Columbus, ohio.
And, guys, this I mean again,this is where, like it's, it is
to you like use chat GPT to, orany AI tool for, not just

(01:07:20):
helping out with the build ofwebsites and code, but to help
you get clients.
This literally.
I don't need to like look up andthink about what groups are
going on.
I know now exactly what aresome of the networking referral
groups.
There's some tech and designgroups.
I could even search forWordPress meetups, any web

(01:07:42):
design or WordPress happeningnow through May 2025.
So, uh, whoever I forget whoasked earlier about white
labeling 2025.
So whoever I forget who askedearlier about white labeling?
But you could do this like looklocally, if you're in an area
like that, what events arehappening over the next month or
so?
There's a web design.

(01:08:05):
There's a WordPress Columbusvirtual meetup on May 8th.
There is a in-person meetup onMay 19th, columbus code and
coffee.
I'm in, at least for the coffee.
It's in Columbus all next month.
So here we go, like yeah, guys,this is just another avenue of
AI that I'm certainly embracingand I'd recommend you do it as

(01:08:28):
well.
And here you go.
There's additional tech events.
So I mean, if you're looking toincrease your network and
especially if you're whitelabeling or things like that,
that is one of the beststrategies and ways to go.
Takeaway for Frank was to getmore involved in the pro
community.
Yes, frank, absolutely.

(01:08:49):
That's where the magic'shappening.
I'm not going to lie.
I mean you guys are seeing it.
A lot of pros joined us heretoday.
Some results were shared.
I mean, you know, I share whatI did and what I've done that
works for my business, what isworking for my agency now, but
it's a thousand times morevaluable because everyone is

(01:09:09):
active in sharing what isworking.
By the way, last thing I want tomake note of for those of you
who are going to jump in withyour special offer, let me just
encourage you to do this Headinto pro.
When you join the communitytier, you do have to be in the
community tier for this.
Go to wins and successes.
Why?
Not only because it's awesometo see people succeed, but this

(01:09:33):
is literally what is workingtoday.
You can see how Jason here got,or John got, into the map pack.
You can see how, uh, ben hit ahuge milestone in his business.
How the community is helpingAaron and her stuff, how, uh,

(01:09:54):
yeah, mitch here retained aretainer, secured it All good
stuff, all good stuff.
You literally see what isworking right here in the wins
and successes.
So that's how I would uh,that's the first thing I would
do if I were jumping in today.
And Alexia, final takeaway getmy butt out of the house and

(01:10:15):
network more in person, boom.
So try that out.
Alexia, I know you're in the uh, the Walmart heartland of
America.
So chat, gpt that up.
Look at what business,especially with Alexia I know
you're serving a lot of likefemale owned businesses and
stuff.
I guarantee you could look uplike women's business events and

(01:10:38):
you'd probably you will cleanup in those.
So go for it, alexia.
And it's seasonal too.
It's not all the time.
It's a little bit of hustle fora little season and you're rock
and roll.
I've had white label supportbefore when they have
deprioritized projects with meand direct work came in.
I get it, but I want support Ican rely on to yeah, exactly

(01:11:00):
yeah, as far as the white labelstuff.
Another benefit of being in protoo.
So Pandora, rock and roll, allright guys.
Well, thank you for joining.
Great questions, really reallyenjoyed chatting with you guys
here today.
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But if you want to jump rightin and do what we talked about.
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So sound good, all right, guys.
Hope to see you in pro andwrong buttons wrong buttons
Really enjoyed this one.
Thank you for your engagementin the chat.
Really good stuff.
I will see you on the next Q&Asession.
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I will see you over in Pro.
Cheers guys.