September 18, 2023 • 37 mins
Ever wondered how to preserve your cherished wedding bouquet for a lifetime? Meet Judi Guevara, a flower preservation expert, who takes us on a journey to explore the captivating world of bouquet preservation. We dive into fascinating techniques, ranging from resin and pressed flowers to freeze-drying and fabric dyeing. Judy shares precious insights on how the bouquet handling process post-wedding can impact the preservation outcome and helps us understand how to choose the perfect preservation method.
We then take a closer look at the intricacies of drying and preserving flowers for resin. How do the colors of flowers change post-drying and how can we safeguard their original beauty? Judy unveils the backstage of her work, revealing how her team ensures the colors match as closely as possible to the original bouquet. We also discuss the price differences between pressed flowers and resin flowers, offering you the complete bouquet preservation guide.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Hello and welcome to this versus that making wedding
decisions with Kelly McWilliams.
This podcast is for you ifyou're making a wedding decision
and want to know what toconsider before saying I do to
all the things that will makeyour wedding experience a great
one.
I'm your host, kelly McWilliams, and I'm so glad to be a part
(00:30):
of your wedding planning journey.
In each episode, you can counton me and my expert wedding
co-hosts to give you everythingit takes to make the best
decisions for the wedding thatyou're dreaming of.
Welcome back season five,episode two.
So today we're talking with.
Judy Guevara.
Guys, my voice is still a mess.
(00:51):
I have this cold that justwon't go away.
Anyway, judy does flowerpreservation, which is kind of
new to me.
The preservation I knew when,from when I got married, was you
hung your bouquet upside downin a closet for like six months
and then that was your preservedflowers.
But now, now there are pressedflowers and flowers preserved in
(01:18):
resin.
There's in all kinds of thingsthat you can do freeze, dried,
just so much.
So I'm so excited that Judy ison this episode with us to talk
about all of the differentthings that you can do with
preserved flowers, and I asked alot of questions because I felt
like I knew some didn't knoweverything, and that's going to
(01:40):
become very clear as you listento this episode.
Let me tell you a little bitabout Judy.
Oh my gosh, and she's thecutest thing, you guys.
She started in the Houstonwedding industry as a manager of
a local bridal boutique.
She loved being a part of somany brides big days and helping
them find the perfect dress,but she began to notice an
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influx of requests regardingwhere to preserve their bouquets
.
So Judy began experimentingwith casting dried flowers from
bouquets in resin.
And as people began to receivetheir creations back, new spread
and Judy's work was quicklygained as quickly gained
popularity as more women beganasking her to preserve their
(02:24):
bouquets.
With her side business booming,she decided to take a bigger
risk and launch a business bloomsake full time creating
customizable keepsakes like oneof a kind trays, coasters, ring
holders and more, each onedesigned to last a lifetime.
You guys, if you haven't seen orheard of preserving bouquets at
(02:49):
this time, you might have beenliving under a rock or a block
of resin, because it's like allthe rage right now and I'm
excited for both kinds ofpreservation types the resin and
the pressed flowers.
So go ahead and listen to thisepisode and see what you think,
which way you might be here, orif you can go the DIY route and
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hang it in your closet like Idid.
I'm going to tell you this,though mine crumbled and fell
apart and turned brown.
I mean, that's just the truth.
So if you want to preserve thatbeautiful bouquet in some
format, this might be the way togo.
So here we go.
Let's invite Judy on.
Hi, judy, thank you for joiningus on this versus that.
(03:35):
I'm so excited for this episode.
I have not done one like thisand it just so happens I've had
a couple clients as a recent askabout flower preservation, so
there could not be a better timefor it.
I'm really, really lookingforward to this conversation in
general, and I think the mostimportant thing that we need to
do from the get go is to explainto you everyone what flower
(04:00):
preservation is, because I feellike it's kind of a newer
service.
I know it's been out thereforever kind of, but I don't
feel like everybody knows aboutit.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yes, well, thank you so much for having me.
I'm so excited to be here andtalk to you more about flower
preservation.
So yeah, so jumping in.
Flower preservation has beenaround for a while, but it's
definitely getting more and morepopular nowadays, especially
with social media.
(04:32):
You know TikTok videos showinghow the process is done, so it's
super exciting.
There's different types offloral preservation.
What we mainly do is resinfloral preservation, and we also
have breast frames as an option.
I would say those are the mostpopular styles of preservation
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that are available.
Other styles that are availableare also freeze drying the
flowers, or a lot of people willalso work with textiles.
Well, dye, the textiles wouldbe flowers and kind of like, do
like cool looking fabric is anoption.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So when I got married 25 years ago very long time ago
the only option that I recallthen was like you took your
bouquet and you hung it upsidedown in a closet or something
like that.
Yes, that is not anything likewhat you're talking about, right
, or is it Correct?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay, so with hanging your bouquet upside down.
There is a beauty in that aswell.
However, with doing that, thecolors and the shape of the
flowers don't retain as well asif we were to take it from you
and dry them with our specialdrying techniques?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay, okay.
So let's talk about the process, and I know that there's many
people that I would like to talkto you.
It's like you're going to beour expert on all things flower
preservation for this episode.
So I am going to ask you abouthow you do things specifically
for resin, and I know that youare now doing pressed flowers,
(06:21):
so maybe you can tell me alittle bit about that.
But I also want to know likethe pricing kind of like, and I
know you have your pricing, butif you know in general what like
across the country, like thedifferences.
But let's start by firstexplaining the process for for
most situations.
Okay, so let's pretend I getmarried yesterday.
(06:45):
What is it that I'm going to doimmediately with my bouquet
before I like?
Am I sending it off tosomewhere?
How does that usually work?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, so there are so many different options.
It depends if you are local.
We are local in Houston, so ifyou're local in Houston, we do
have a drop-off serviceavailable so that you don't
worry about nailing in yourflowers.
However, we work with brides,right US, all the time.
(07:20):
Okay, and so, with that beingsaid, I do offer a packing and
flipping instructions.
We just ask that you overnightyour flowers so that they can
get to us as fresh as possible.
Okay, and once we have yourflowers, we then take care of
them by ryeing them with ourspecial ryeing techniques.
(07:42):
Okay, um, resin pieces versuspress frames have different ways
of drying.
Obviously, with the pressframes, we dry them by pressing
the flowers.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And is it the whole bloom, like including the stem,
or is it just like the bloompart of it when you press?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So, um, it really depends on, you know, the type
of flowers, the size of theflowers.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Um, it definitely can be done with pressing flowers.
We just need to make sure thatthe flowers are not too thick so
that they don't hold themoisture while they're being
pressed.
Okay, because the thicker thatthey are, the more moisture it
holds, and that's how it getsmoldy.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Okay, got it Okay.
So let's talk about, sincethat's your specialty, let's
talk about resin preservationFirst.
So before actually we shouldtake a step back, let me make
sure I've got this straight.
Someone's going to reach out toyou or to a floral preservation
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company and they're going tosay I would like to have my
flowers preserved, and I guessthat's through a link or an
email or website or somethinglike that, and then I imagine
that you send instructions back.
Correct, when flowers go to you, you said they need to be sent
back the next day or overnight.
Do they need to be packagedlike in water, cold, like how?
(09:16):
What should clients do withtheir bouquet to make sure it's
sent to you in the best possiblecondition?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, so great question.
Um, we also teach you how topackage it well, but pretty much
we want to make sure that westemmed our submerge in water
and that's where they're gettinga little bit of water, but the
water is not filling out thepetals of the flowers, because
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we also don't want the flowersto wilt, because if you, you
know, get the petals wet insidea box, the flowers are going to
wilt quickly.
And sometimes that kind of likeenables the molding process to
start happening a little quicker.
Okay, so that's something thatyou know.
We teach you what we do ourperformance review is to wrap
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the bottom of the stem in a wetpaper towel and then, once you
wrap it, we put a Ziploc bagover the paper towel to make
sure that this, that part, iswet, and then, you know, tape it
or use rubber bands to justkind of like secure that bag
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with the paper towel and then,once that's finished, the full
bouquet itself.
They can use this packing paperor newspaper to wrap the entire
bouquet so that the flowerswill contain and they're not
just like possibly been movingaround against the box.
(10:55):
Okay, so everything can besecured.
Play a secure box Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Do most people do just their bouquet or do they
sometimes send, like theboutonniers or any other kinds
of flowers?
What's average or what can bedone?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So really anything that's the beauty of floral
preservation is how customizedit can get.
We need to get room roomsmirrors all the time, actually,
because you know we got to getsomething to our rooms so we
can't forget about them, sure?
So what a lot of our my coupleswill do is they will send both
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the bridal bouquet and theboutonniers and we either make
the room something special justfor himself or, if they are only
one big place, we add thebouquet mirror, maybe a corner
to put its light and everythingto give it.
So it is the bride's bouquet, Ithink, from this bouquet mirror
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.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Okay, with a with resin, is it that you're getting
the whole 3D effect of thebloom and does it keep its
natural colors as you receive it?
Is that kind of the bigdifference between that and a
pressed flower, or is that oneof the differences that's so?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
different.
I will mainly say this you know, with resin because we are we
are able to pour a thicker pourwith a bigger box.
Then we're able to show theflower in its more natural state
.
Okay, so we're looking like anactual flower, because with our
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special drawing technique, weare able to have the flower
retain its shape and color.
Okay, so it's not.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I'm sorry because I have so many questions running
through my head.
Right now, you don't preservethe whole bouquet as a whole,
right, correct?
You're pulling blooms from it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So with drawing the flowers for the resin pieces, we
would have to cut the stems offand dry the the floral bulb
itself.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay, okay.
So, and then do most people isit that you in advance select
like what size block you wouldwant it to be Correct?
Okay, yes, and then thatchanges the pricing.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes.
So with us we have differentstyles available.
We have anywhere from a servingtray and we have several
different shapes and sizes ofthat and floral blocks.
So we always tell our coupleswho order if you go wanting
something more, a little bitmore functional, then I would
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say, go with the tray options.
But if you're wanting somethingmainly just to display, put on
bookshelf, put on, you know,your TV stand, then I would
recommend the block option,because with that you're able to
showcase more of how thebouquet is supposed to be, and
that we're able to, but the fullflower would not have to blend
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them out or kind of like nick ita little.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Has anyone ever asked you to do the whole bouquet as
it is?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes, we actually have requests like that all the time
.
However, it's just we.
We don't have the capacity todo the whole bouquet by itself.
It won't be because with ourmolds they don't really go as
big and with that that wouldsignificantly increase the cost
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of the product, because with thematerial that we use it is not
the most cheapest Economical.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Economical exactly Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What?
Okay, so let's talk about pressflowers.
Like the difference there.
So, with press flowers, is itbetween two pieces of glass?
And so you, Okay, hold on.
Is it that you take the bloomsin both instances and you dry
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them first and then you preservethem?
Is that how that works?
Okay, got it.
Yes, it is Okay.
And then, with pressed flowers,you're pressing them between
two pieces of glass.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Correct.
Okay, so with pressed flowers,we start off by preparing them
to be pressed and dried.
Okay, so that takes like a fewweeks to a month or two.
It really depends on theflowers, the flies and the
thickness of it and the height.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Wow, it takes that long, yes it does Gosh.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I hate knowing this.
Because you want to make surethat the flowers are completely
dry especially when working withresin.
Okay, because resin andmoisture, they are not a good
mix.
Okay, and it starts molding.
It just creates a whole bunchof problems.
Okay, because we want to reallymake sure that the flowers are
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dry.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Okay, and then I imagine what the big difference
is between.
Well, you tell me, is thedifference between the two
really in the color saturation,between the pressed flowers and
the resin flowers?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, so with you know, with drying flowers, even
with the material that we drythe flowers with or the resin
pieces, they still change colorsa little bit.
Okay.
For example, with white roses,we will always dry a little bit
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more cream, okay.
And then also red roses, whichis super common in bridal
bouquets.
They actually dry very dark andgolden instead of that red that
we normally see.
And you know that's just thenature in drying flowers,
whether or not we air dry themor use our special drying
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solution, it's always going tobe that way.
Same with the pressed flowers.
However, we totally understandthat a lot of brides are wanting
more of the exact color oftheir bouquet, so we actually
have an option where we colorand enhance the flowers so that
the flowers will be will matchas closely as possible to their
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original bridal bouquet.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's cool.
So what?
Do they send you a picture ofwhat it looked like in advance.
Okay, exactly, cool, cool.
So you said it takes about amonth or two just to dry the
flowers, and then there's theprocess of actually getting into
the resin or pressing it into aframe.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, yes, and then.
So with us, our production timeis six months and it's a little
longer because it is, becauseyou know, it truly is a labor of
blood.
Every step of the way we wantto make sure that everything is
perfect.
As I said, we're drying theflowers.
(18:22):
We need to make sure all thedrives sorry, all the flowers
are completely dried before andmoving on to the next step.
So the longer it is, the more.
It ensures that we get down tothe center.
It is dried, and then, once thatstep is done, we have to
confirm with our customerswhether or not they're happy
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with the color that we driedinto you and if they're wanting
kind of like what we weretalking about earlier, get them
color in hand.
Also takes a couple of weeks,okay.
And then, moving on to the nextstep, we also offer design
previews so that we want to makesure that our customers love
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the design of the pieces thatthey're receiving, because once
we set it with resin, it'spermanent and we can't really
move any of the designs around.
And so, with talking aboutpouring with resin, we have to
pour in very thin layers, andwith a lot of these blocks they
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can get pretty thick.
And so because we have to pourin thin layers, it does take a
little bit of time to kind oflike add on.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Okay, okay.
So with you said the designthere's, is it okay?
So I'm trying to imagine like ablock.
So is it that from when yousend them a design, it's not
done there already, like you arejust like sending them a sketch
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or you've got some kind of art?
How do you do that?
I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
That's okay.
So for our design previews,what we do is we take the
flowers that we're already driedand we basically kind of just
map it out for our customers andjust put the flowers how they
would be in the block or archyour bookends that they would,
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and so we kind of just map it upand show them hey, this is what
your piece is going to looklike without it fed and rippling
permanently.
And let's say they are lovingthe design or like how this
flower looks left side, andwe'll be able to kind of move
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the rose from the left sidemaybe to the bottom right.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Got it.
So really, if I'm, if they'rejust pulling, if you're just
pulling flowers from the bouquet, they, it could really be.
They could really send you anybouquet from their wedding that
has those blooms in it, is it?
You know?
(21:13):
Like, let's say, the bride'sbouquet just is not looking as
good as maybe one of the bride'smaids, but it has all the same
flowers in it.
Would that be okay to send over, because essentially you're
pulling it all apart anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, absolutely so.
Actually, what we tell a lot ofbrides is to send us a floral
arrangement.
It's a label arrangement.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh, because those are sitting in water.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
They're sitting in floral all day versus and they
have the same flowers versus.
You know the bridal bouquetwhere she's pulling it all day.
It's going to pass around,that's so smart.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's really smart.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So that kind of like gives us no sense of scope.
But, you know, if we can, wealways pick the best looking
flowers to be able to use.
Also, going back to the bride'smaids bouquet, so we actually
have a lot of really fun, youknow, presentation pieces that
all brides will give to theirbridal parties.
(22:18):
Oh, that's good.
So I'm going to go thank youfor, you know, being my bridal
party gift, and so with thosepieces, a lot of times, you know
, the brides will send thebridesmaids bouquet and it's so
fun to have a little piece oftheir wedding with them, since
they were in it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Cool.
Thank you for going through allthose questions.
I just feel like if I have allthese questions, so does
everyone else listening.
So let's talk about this versusthat.
With a few different things,pricing is one more extensive
than the other, typically acrossthe board, whether like resin
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or the pressed yes, absolutelyso.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Resin is definitely more priced than pressed frames
just because, with the material,resin is quite pricey and
there's really a lot more stepsthat goes into it.
First the pressed frames, andalso depends on which piece that
they pick, because the biggerand the thicker the pieces and
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the more material is used, thenof course it's going to be more
expensive versus, let's say, ifsomeone orders a small ring.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Ok, got it.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Thank you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you
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, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Thank you.
Thank you put into a presspiece.
It's flat, Like it's the.
You're pulling the pedals off,am I right?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Exactly, you're exactly, yep.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Okay, good, good, good good.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, see you know you know?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean, I've seen a few pictures.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But yes, that's definitely.
You know, everybody has theirdifferent techniques of pressing
their flowers.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
A lot of press floral or it is.
We'll take the fiddle supportto dry them a little bit better
because that helps moisture.
It helps lessen the moisture.
It just makes faster, Forexample you're doing the whole
big wing of flowers.
Sure, it kind of like.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I have a big question .
Yes, are there certain bloomsthat are almost impossible to do
this to because they're justway too much, because the
majority of the weddings I doare very tropical, tropical
flowers have so much watercontent.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yes, so are there any that are like yeah, this is not
gonna, we can't do this ones,that is so funny that you
brought that up, because I trulyhave a love hate relationship
with tropical flowers becausethey're gorgeous, they're so
beautiful, yeah, but they dry sobadly.
(31:43):
You know, I either run intothis situation with resin drying
flowers for resin pieces Iwould say succulent are the
worst flowers to dry.
Because of that reason, becausethey hold so much moisture and
(32:03):
so when you dry them they're alljust okay.
Yeah, they don't dry, theydon't dry.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So I wouldn't even consider putting a succulent in
with that.
I didn't even think about that.
I forgot people actually usethat.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I actually use them anymore, Actually a lot of
brides have succulents.
Really, I mean a lot of likeblow-dried will have succulents.
Okay, I mean not to the above,but I would say it's like pretty
common.
But yeah, I would saysucculents are probably the ones
.
You think that I'm just notcrazy about drying.
(32:38):
I mean we can make it happen,but it's I don't recommend it,
Okay.
And then, for example, alsoampuriums, which is the A
popular tropical flower, Sure,so they dry with no matter what
color it is, they all dry brown.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Okay, good to know.
Good to know.
Thank you for that tip.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
But Okay, this has been enlightening and I know
that's like a big word to usefor something.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's definitely I know it's.
It's a lot of information andthere's so many things that you
know.
I even myself still learn as Igo.
It was still Sure, sure.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
But I hope that this was you know.
You know answers a lot ofquestions for people who, like,
had never even heard of theprocess before.
Where is the best of our?
Where should everyone reach outto you to learn more about
floral preservation and what youcan do and other
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preservationists do?
I know he says something aboutlike it's really big on TikTok
and to work and people reach youthe most easily.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, so we are available on all social media
platforms.
We are at Woonzake on Instagram, tiktok, facebook, pinterest.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
All devices.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So you can find us on our website.
It's going to be wwwwoonzakecom, and if anyone has any
questions, please feel free toemail or message us or Instagram
.
Whatever is given gifts for youand we're happy to answer at
hand.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Okay, great.
Thank you so much for all ofthe education and I feel so
excited because I know that Ihave some clients are going to
be like, okay, no one know whatI want to do.
So I really, really appreciateit and I'm looking forward to
like looking at some of theseTikToks and do you show behind
the scenes of you making them?
We?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
sometimes do.
I've been kind of work on itmore and more.
It's just sometimes whenever Iget in design mode I'm just so
in the zone with no hard to kindof like.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Design.
At the same time it's kind oflike the time not to continue,
but like from time is kind of anobvious and it's because for
the resin we have a certainamount of time to work with it
before it's hard.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Am I right in thinking that it's not like a
one day like you, just pour itall in at the same time kind of
deal?
Oh, no, no no.
There's many, many steps.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Correct.
Yeah, there's many, which iswhy in the process it's still
long.
I would love it if we couldjust pour ones and be done with
it, but you know that's just nothow resin works, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, and then the reason I wanted to bring that up
, because that kind ofreinforces why the pricing is
what it is, because I feel likea lot of people look at it and
go why is this so expensive?
Well, it's because it is amajor process, from what I
understand, yes, that it is likemany layers, like it doesn't
just all happen at once, it's,and then, like you said, you
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have the process of actuallydesigning it and the proofing
and maybe the recoloring andsaturation and things like that.
So I appreciate this time somuch.
Judy, thank you for educatingus.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Of course, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
All right, we'll come back to you if we want to do
some more education on otherkinds of preservation that you
might be doing Absolutely.
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I am here to help.
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Hello and welcome to this versus that making wedding
decisions with Kelly McWilliams.
This podcast is for you ifyou're making a wedding decision
and want to know what toconsider before saying I do to
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In each episode, you can counton me and my expert wedding
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Welcome back season five,episode two.
So today we're talking with.
Judy Guevara.
Guys, my voice is still a mess.
(00:51):
I have this cold that justwon't go away.
Anyway, judy does flowerpreservation, which is kind of
new to me.
The preservation I knew when,from when I got married, was you
hung your bouquet upside downin a closet for like six months
and then that was your preservedflowers.
But now, now there are pressedflowers and flowers preserved in
(01:18):
resin.
There's in all kinds of thingsthat you can do freeze, dried,
just so much.
So I'm so excited that Judy ison this episode with us to talk
about all of the differentthings that you can do with
preserved flowers, and I asked alot of questions because I felt
like I knew some didn't knoweverything, and that's going to
(01:40):
become very clear as you listento this episode.
Let me tell you a little bitabout Judy.
Oh my gosh, and she's thecutest thing, you guys.
She started in the Houstonwedding industry as a manager of
a local bridal boutique.
She loved being a part of somany brides big days and helping
them find the perfect dress,but she began to notice an
(02:00):
influx of requests regardingwhere to preserve their bouquets
.
So Judy began experimentingwith casting dried flowers from
bouquets in resin.
And as people began to receivetheir creations back, new spread
and Judy's work was quicklygained as quickly gained
popularity as more women beganasking her to preserve their
(02:24):
bouquets.
With her side business booming,she decided to take a bigger
risk and launch a business bloomsake full time creating
customizable keepsakes like oneof a kind trays, coasters, ring
holders and more, each onedesigned to last a lifetime.
You guys, if you haven't seen orheard of preserving bouquets at
(02:49):
this time, you might have beenliving under a rock or a block
of resin, because it's like allthe rage right now and I'm
excited for both kinds ofpreservation types the resin and
the pressed flowers.
So go ahead and listen to thisepisode and see what you think,
which way you might be here, orif you can go the DIY route and
(03:13):
hang it in your closet like Idid.
I'm going to tell you this,though mine crumbled and fell
apart and turned brown.
I mean, that's just the truth.
So if you want to preserve thatbeautiful bouquet in some
format, this might be the way togo.
So here we go.
Let's invite Judy on.
Hi, judy, thank you for joiningus on this versus that.
(03:35):
I'm so excited for this episode.
I have not done one like thisand it just so happens I've had
a couple clients as a recent askabout flower preservation, so
there could not be a better timefor it.
I'm really, really lookingforward to this conversation in
general, and I think the mostimportant thing that we need to
do from the get go is to explainto you everyone what flower
(04:00):
preservation is, because I feellike it's kind of a newer
service.
I know it's been out thereforever kind of, but I don't
feel like everybody knows aboutit.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yes, well, thank you so much for having me.
I'm so excited to be here andtalk to you more about flower
preservation.
So yeah, so jumping in.
Flower preservation has beenaround for a while, but it's
definitely getting more and morepopular nowadays, especially
with social media.
(04:32):
You know TikTok videos showinghow the process is done, so it's
super exciting.
There's different types offloral preservation.
What we mainly do is resinfloral preservation, and we also
have breast frames as an option.
I would say those are the mostpopular styles of preservation
(04:56):
that are available.
Other styles that are availableare also freeze drying the
flowers, or a lot of people willalso work with textiles.
Well, dye, the textiles wouldbe flowers and kind of like, do
like cool looking fabric is anoption.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
So when I got married 25 years ago very long time ago
the only option that I recallthen was like you took your
bouquet and you hung it upsidedown in a closet or something
like that.
Yes, that is not anything likewhat you're talking about, right
, or is it Correct?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay, so with hanging your bouquet upside down.
There is a beauty in that aswell.
However, with doing that, thecolors and the shape of the
flowers don't retain as well asif we were to take it from you
and dry them with our specialdrying techniques?
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Okay, okay.
So let's talk about the process, and I know that there's many
people that I would like to talkto you.
It's like you're going to beour expert on all things flower
preservation for this episode.
So I am going to ask you abouthow you do things specifically
for resin, and I know that youare now doing pressed flowers,
(06:21):
so maybe you can tell me alittle bit about that.
But I also want to know likethe pricing kind of like, and I
know you have your pricing, butif you know in general what like
across the country, like thedifferences.
But let's start by firstexplaining the process for for
most situations.
Okay, so let's pretend I getmarried yesterday.
(06:45):
What is it that I'm going to doimmediately with my bouquet
before I like?
Am I sending it off tosomewhere?
How does that usually work?
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, so there are so many different options.
It depends if you are local.
We are local in Houston, so ifyou're local in Houston, we do
have a drop-off serviceavailable so that you don't
worry about nailing in yourflowers.
However, we work with brides,right US, all the time.
(07:20):
Okay, and so, with that beingsaid, I do offer a packing and
flipping instructions.
We just ask that you overnightyour flowers so that they can
get to us as fresh as possible.
Okay, and once we have yourflowers, we then take care of
them by ryeing them with ourspecial ryeing techniques.
(07:42):
Okay, um, resin pieces versuspress frames have different ways
of drying.
Obviously, with the pressframes, we dry them by pressing
the flowers.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And is it the whole bloom, like including the stem,
or is it just like the bloompart of it when you press?
Speaker 2 (08:03):
So, um, it really depends on, you know, the type
of flowers, the size of theflowers.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Um, it definitely can be done with pressing flowers.
We just need to make sure thatthe flowers are not too thick so
that they don't hold themoisture while they're being
pressed.
Okay, because the thicker thatthey are, the more moisture it
holds, and that's how it getsmoldy.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Okay, got it Okay.
So let's talk about, sincethat's your specialty, let's
talk about resin preservationFirst.
So before actually we shouldtake a step back, let me make
sure I've got this straight.
Someone's going to reach out toyou or to a floral preservation
(08:52):
company and they're going tosay I would like to have my
flowers preserved, and I guessthat's through a link or an
email or website or somethinglike that, and then I imagine
that you send instructions back.
Correct, when flowers go to you, you said they need to be sent
back the next day or overnight.
Do they need to be packagedlike in water, cold, like how?
(09:16):
What should clients do withtheir bouquet to make sure it's
sent to you in the best possiblecondition?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, so great question.
Um, we also teach you how topackage it well, but pretty much
we want to make sure that westemmed our submerge in water
and that's where they're gettinga little bit of water, but the
water is not filling out thepetals of the flowers, because
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we also don't want the flowersto wilt, because if you, you
know, get the petals wet insidea box, the flowers are going to
wilt quickly.
And sometimes that kind of likeenables the molding process to
start happening a little quicker.
Okay, so that's something thatyou know.
We teach you what we do ourperformance review is to wrap
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the bottom of the stem in a wetpaper towel and then, once you
wrap it, we put a Ziploc bagover the paper towel to make
sure that this, that part, iswet, and then, you know, tape it
or use rubber bands to justkind of like secure that bag
(10:32):
with the paper towel and then,once that's finished, the full
bouquet itself.
They can use this packing paperor newspaper to wrap the entire
bouquet so that the flowerswill contain and they're not
just like possibly been movingaround against the box.
(10:55):
Okay, so everything can besecured.
Play a secure box Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Do most people do just their bouquet or do they
sometimes send, like theboutonniers or any other kinds
of flowers?
What's average or what can bedone?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So really anything that's the beauty of floral
preservation is how customizedit can get.
We need to get room roomsmirrors all the time, actually,
because you know we got to getsomething to our rooms so we
can't forget about them, sure?
So what a lot of our my coupleswill do is they will send both
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the bridal bouquet and theboutonniers and we either make
the room something special justfor himself or, if they are only
one big place, we add thebouquet mirror, maybe a corner
to put its light and everythingto give it.
So it is the bride's bouquet, Ithink, from this bouquet mirror
(11:58):
.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Okay, with a with resin, is it that you're getting
the whole 3D effect of thebloom and does it keep its
natural colors as you receive it?
Is that kind of the bigdifference between that and a
pressed flower, or is that oneof the differences that's so?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
different.
I will mainly say this you know, with resin because we are we
are able to pour a thicker pourwith a bigger box.
Then we're able to show theflower in its more natural state
.
Okay, so we're looking like anactual flower, because with our
(12:41):
special drawing technique, weare able to have the flower
retain its shape and color.
Okay, so it's not.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
I'm sorry because I have so many questions running
through my head.
Right now, you don't preservethe whole bouquet as a whole,
right, correct?
You're pulling blooms from it.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
So with drawing the flowers for the resin pieces, we
would have to cut the stems offand dry the the floral bulb
itself.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay, okay.
So, and then do most people isit that you in advance select
like what size block you wouldwant it to be Correct?
Okay, yes, and then thatchanges the pricing.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes.
So with us we have differentstyles available.
We have anywhere from a servingtray and we have several
different shapes and sizes ofthat and floral blocks.
So we always tell our coupleswho order if you go wanting
something more, a little bitmore functional, then I would
(13:51):
say, go with the tray options.
But if you're wanting somethingmainly just to display, put on
bookshelf, put on, you know,your TV stand, then I would
recommend the block option,because with that you're able to
showcase more of how thebouquet is supposed to be, and
that we're able to, but the fullflower would not have to blend
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them out or kind of like nick ita little.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Has anyone ever asked you to do the whole bouquet as
it is?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Yes, we actually have requests like that all the time
.
However, it's just we.
We don't have the capacity todo the whole bouquet by itself.
It won't be because with ourmolds they don't really go as
big and with that that wouldsignificantly increase the cost
(14:41):
of the product, because with thematerial that we use it is not
the most cheapest Economical.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Economical exactly Okay.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay so.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
What?
Okay, so let's talk about pressflowers.
Like the difference there.
So, with press flowers, is itbetween two pieces of glass?
And so you, Okay, hold on.
Is it that you take the bloomsin both instances and you dry
(15:18):
them first and then you preservethem?
Is that how that works?
Okay, got it.
Yes, it is Okay.
And then, with pressed flowers,you're pressing them between
two pieces of glass.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Correct.
Okay, so with pressed flowers,we start off by preparing them
to be pressed and dried.
Okay, so that takes like a fewweeks to a month or two.
It really depends on theflowers, the flies and the
thickness of it and the height.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Wow, it takes that long, yes it does Gosh.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I hate knowing this.
Because you want to make surethat the flowers are completely
dry especially when working withresin.
Okay, because resin andmoisture, they are not a good
mix.
Okay, and it starts molding.
It just creates a whole bunchof problems.
Okay, because we want to reallymake sure that the flowers are
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dry.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Okay, and then I imagine what the big difference
is between.
Well, you tell me, is thedifference between the two
really in the color saturation,between the pressed flowers and
the resin flowers?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, so with you know, with drying flowers, even
with the material that we drythe flowers with or the resin
pieces, they still change colorsa little bit.
Okay.
For example, with white roses,we will always dry a little bit
(16:52):
more cream, okay.
And then also red roses, whichis super common in bridal
bouquets.
They actually dry very dark andgolden instead of that red that
we normally see.
And you know that's just thenature in drying flowers,
whether or not we air dry themor use our special drying
(17:14):
solution, it's always going tobe that way.
Same with the pressed flowers.
However, we totally understandthat a lot of brides are wanting
more of the exact color oftheir bouquet, so we actually
have an option where we colorand enhance the flowers so that
the flowers will be will matchas closely as possible to their
(17:39):
original bridal bouquet.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
That's cool.
So what?
Do they send you a picture ofwhat it looked like in advance.
Okay, exactly, cool, cool.
So you said it takes about amonth or two just to dry the
flowers, and then there's theprocess of actually getting into
the resin or pressing it into aframe.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, yes, and then.
So with us, our production timeis six months and it's a little
longer because it is, becauseyou know, it truly is a labor of
blood.
Every step of the way we wantto make sure that everything is
perfect.
As I said, we're drying theflowers.
(18:22):
We need to make sure all thedrives sorry, all the flowers
are completely dried before andmoving on to the next step.
So the longer it is, the more.
It ensures that we get down tothe center.
It is dried, and then, once thatstep is done, we have to
confirm with our customerswhether or not they're happy
(18:45):
with the color that we driedinto you and if they're wanting
kind of like what we weretalking about earlier, get them
color in hand.
Also takes a couple of weeks,okay.
And then, moving on to the nextstep, we also offer design
previews so that we want to makesure that our customers love
(19:05):
the design of the pieces thatthey're receiving, because once
we set it with resin, it'spermanent and we can't really
move any of the designs around.
And so, with talking aboutpouring with resin, we have to
pour in very thin layers, andwith a lot of these blocks they
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can get pretty thick.
And so because we have to pourin thin layers, it does take a
little bit of time to kind oflike add on.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Okay, okay.
So with you said the designthere's, is it okay?
So I'm trying to imagine like ablock.
So is it that from when yousend them a design, it's not
done there already, like you arejust like sending them a sketch
(19:55):
or you've got some kind of art?
How do you do that?
I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
That's okay.
So for our design previews,what we do is we take the
flowers that we're already driedand we basically kind of just
map it out for our customers andjust put the flowers how they
would be in the block or archyour bookends that they would,
(20:26):
and so we kind of just map it upand show them hey, this is what
your piece is going to looklike without it fed and rippling
permanently.
And let's say they are lovingthe design or like how this
flower looks left side, andwe'll be able to kind of move
(20:49):
the rose from the left sidemaybe to the bottom right.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Got it.
So really, if I'm, if they'rejust pulling, if you're just
pulling flowers from the bouquet, they, it could really be.
They could really send you anybouquet from their wedding that
has those blooms in it, is it?
You know?
(21:13):
Like, let's say, the bride'sbouquet just is not looking as
good as maybe one of the bride'smaids, but it has all the same
flowers in it.
Would that be okay to send over, because essentially you're
pulling it all apart anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, absolutely so.
Actually, what we tell a lot ofbrides is to send us a floral
arrangement.
It's a label arrangement.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Oh, because those are sitting in water.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
They're sitting in floral all day versus and they
have the same flowers versus.
You know the bridal bouquetwhere she's pulling it all day.
It's going to pass around,that's so smart.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's really smart.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So that kind of like gives us no sense of scope.
But, you know, if we can, wealways pick the best looking
flowers to be able to use.
Also, going back to the bride'smaids bouquet, so we actually
have a lot of really fun, youknow, presentation pieces that
all brides will give to theirbridal parties.
(22:18):
Oh, that's good.
So I'm going to go thank youfor, you know, being my bridal
party gift, and so with thosepieces, a lot of times, you know
, the brides will send thebridesmaids bouquet and it's so
fun to have a little piece oftheir wedding with them, since
they were in it.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Cool.
Thank you for going through allthose questions.
I just feel like if I have allthese questions, so does
everyone else listening.
So let's talk about this versusthat.
With a few different things,pricing is one more extensive
than the other, typically acrossthe board, whether like resin
(22:58):
or the pressed yes, absolutelyso.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Resin is definitely more priced than pressed frames
just because, with the material,resin is quite pricey and
there's really a lot more stepsthat goes into it.
First the pressed frames, andalso depends on which piece that
they pick, because the biggerand the thicker the pieces and
(23:25):
the more material is used, thenof course it's going to be more
expensive versus, let's say, ifsomeone orders a small ring.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Ok, got it.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Thank you.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you
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, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Thank you.
Thank you put into a presspiece.
It's flat, Like it's the.
You're pulling the pedals off,am I right?
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Exactly, you're exactly, yep.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Okay, good, good, good good.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, see you know you know?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I mean, I've seen a few pictures.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
But yes, that's definitely.
You know, everybody has theirdifferent techniques of pressing
their flowers.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
A lot of press floral or it is.
We'll take the fiddle supportto dry them a little bit better
because that helps moisture.
It helps lessen the moisture.
It just makes faster, Forexample you're doing the whole
big wing of flowers.
Sure, it kind of like.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
I have a big question .
Yes, are there certain bloomsthat are almost impossible to do
this to because they're justway too much, because the
majority of the weddings I doare very tropical, tropical
flowers have so much watercontent.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yes, so are there any that are like yeah, this is not
gonna, we can't do this ones,that is so funny that you
brought that up, because I trulyhave a love hate relationship
with tropical flowers becausethey're gorgeous, they're so
beautiful, yeah, but they dry sobadly.
(31:43):
You know, I either run intothis situation with resin drying
flowers for resin pieces Iwould say succulent are the
worst flowers to dry.
Because of that reason, becausethey hold so much moisture and
(32:03):
so when you dry them they're alljust okay.
Yeah, they don't dry, theydon't dry.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So I wouldn't even consider putting a succulent in
with that.
I didn't even think about that.
I forgot people actually usethat.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I actually use them anymore, Actually a lot of
brides have succulents.
Really, I mean a lot of likeblow-dried will have succulents.
Okay, I mean not to the above,but I would say it's like pretty
common.
But yeah, I would saysucculents are probably the ones
.
You think that I'm just notcrazy about drying.
(32:38):
I mean we can make it happen,but it's I don't recommend it,
Okay.
And then, for example, alsoampuriums, which is the A
popular tropical flower, Sure,so they dry with no matter what
color it is, they all dry brown.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Okay, good to know.
Good to know.
Thank you for that tip.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
But Okay, this has been enlightening and I know
that's like a big word to usefor something.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It's definitely I know it's.
It's a lot of information andthere's so many things that you
know.
I even myself still learn as Igo.
It was still Sure, sure.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
But I hope that this was you know.
You know answers a lot ofquestions for people who, like,
had never even heard of theprocess before.
Where is the best of our?
Where should everyone reach outto you to learn more about
floral preservation and what youcan do and other
(33:41):
preservationists do?
I know he says something aboutlike it's really big on TikTok
and to work and people reach youthe most easily.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, so we are available on all social media
platforms.
We are at Woonzake on Instagram, tiktok, facebook, pinterest.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
All devices.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So you can find us on our website.
It's going to be wwwwoonzakecom, and if anyone has any
questions, please feel free toemail or message us or Instagram
.
Whatever is given gifts for youand we're happy to answer at
hand.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Okay, great.
Thank you so much for all ofthe education and I feel so
excited because I know that Ihave some clients are going to
be like, okay, no one know whatI want to do.
So I really, really appreciateit and I'm looking forward to
like looking at some of theseTikToks and do you show behind
the scenes of you making them?
We?
Speaker 2 (34:42):
sometimes do.
I've been kind of work on itmore and more.
It's just sometimes whenever Iget in design mode I'm just so
in the zone with no hard to kindof like.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Design.
At the same time it's kind oflike the time not to continue,
but like from time is kind of anobvious and it's because for
the resin we have a certainamount of time to work with it
before it's hard.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Am I right in thinking that it's not like a
one day like you, just pour itall in at the same time kind of
deal?
Oh, no, no no.
There's many, many steps.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Correct.
Yeah, there's many, which iswhy in the process it's still
long.
I would love it if we couldjust pour ones and be done with
it, but you know that's just nothow resin works, unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, and then the reason I wanted to bring that up
, because that kind ofreinforces why the pricing is
what it is, because I feel likea lot of people look at it and
go why is this so expensive?
Well, it's because it is amajor process, from what I
understand, yes, that it is likemany layers, like it doesn't
just all happen at once, it's,and then, like you said, you
(35:53):
have the process of actuallydesigning it and the proofing
and maybe the recoloring andsaturation and things like that.
So I appreciate this time somuch.
Judy, thank you for educatingus.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Of course, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
All right, we'll come back to you if we want to do
some more education on otherkinds of preservation that you
might be doing Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
I am here to help.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
OK, thank you so much .
Bye, thank you.
I'm so glad to be able to sharemy wedding experiences and
expertise with you, and that myco-hosts are so giving it theirs
.
We truly do want you to havethe best time at your wedding,
and our hope is that thispodcast is helping you to make
your engagement time whileplanning your wedding that much
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easier.
May I ask a favor of you?
If this is the case, would youjust take a moment to leave a
review of this podcast on yourlistening platform?
It helps people just like youto find the podcast and to also
find out their answer so theycan make decisions.
I would also absolutely lovefor you to give this versus that
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podcast a shoutout on yoursocial media.
You can find us at this versusthat wedding podcast on
Instagram, and if you would likeme to help you with a specific
question, a wedding decision,please by all means ask, send me
a DM.
I would love to hear from youand maybe, just maybe even have
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you as a wedding cast on afuture episode.
How fun.
Here's to another great wedding.
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