July 15, 2025 • 27 mins
For over a century, hunters, loggers, and hikers have reported a massive, ghostly-white moose—eight feet tall at the shoulder, with antlers like tree limbs and eyes that seem… not quite alive. Is it a spirit? A cryptid? A warning?
This week, Sean takes the gang deep into the haunted woods to uncover the eerie history of the Specter Moose. From 19th-century newspapers to modern-day sightings, we follow the legend through snow, superstition, and moose-related mayhem.
Let’s just say… if you see this moose in the wild? Don’t follow it. Run.
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Imagine standing alone in the dense forest of northern Maine.
The sun's gone down, the Sky's turning black, and all you can
hear in the distance is the snapof the branch.
And then just silence. And in that moment, you see it.
A creature taller than your car,antlers as wide as your garage
door. It's coat pure white, glowing
faintly in the moonlight. And then suddenly, as it
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appears, it's gone. No sound, no trail, no
explanations. The locals call it the Spectre
Moose. And tonight we're diving head
first into one of New England's weirdest crypted legends.
I'm Sean. I'm Kathy.
And I'm Chris. And this is weirder after dark.
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Are there any animals out there that scare either of you?
Like, terrify you? Like you won't go near them?
Like you're just like, that's going to fuck me up.
I don't want. That I'm not afraid that it's
going to fuck me up, but I really, really don't like
spiders. OK.
All right. Like.
I'm terrified of spiders. Like, how do you get rid of
them? So there's a spider on the wall
right now. Oh my God, are you freaking out?
Just. Try panic.
I learned yes, yes. And then I asked someone to help
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me or I don't go back in that room until Chris gets them.
All right, Chris, so you've cleaned up many of spiders for
Kathy is what I'm taking away. 2:00 in the morning.
That was a lizard. In the bathroom, I think I saw a
spider. Nobody's going to bed until you
find that spider. I think I saw, I don't know
what. He's talking about.
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All right, all right, spiders, I'm saying that's kind of basic.
But I know, I know, but I don't.I don't think that there's
really an animal that I'm afraidof all.
Right, Chris? Wolves are fucking terrifying.
We saw wolves. I've seen them, yeah, but I saw
one out in the woods alone. I'd be scared.
Yeah, I'd be pretty scared too. I want to say sharks, but I've
been scuba diving or snorkeling with sharks and it's actually
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not that bad. Yeah, not a great white though,
right? No, nothing that big.
No sand sharks. No sharks, Hammerhead.
Hammerhead, yeah. That's a big shark.
Sharks are good though, because like, you're in their home.
Like, yeah, we don't belong there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like they're going to fuck
you up if they choose to. But where else are you going to
see an animal that you'd be afraid of other?
I mean if you go to a zoo. I mean, I got 1.
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I'm fucking terrified of geese. Those things are straight
killers, man. I challenge anyone right now
that thinks this is fucking funny to go ahead and Google a
image of a goose's mouth. They got teeth on their fucking
tongues, which is some demonic shit, First off.
And then second, they've got some of them got those, like,
weird colored eyes that they're like, looking at you.
You ever walk by a goose? You ever walk by one?
Yeah. What do they do?
They turn and look at you. Yeah, and then what?
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They hiss. They hiss and they kiss.
You, they hiss, they got teeth on their tongues.
They're fucking devil shit. I've, I've been chased by a
group of geese when I was little.
Yeah, like little little. I went with my mom to go feed
the ducks. And I had some bag of bread and
I was, like, all cute with pigtails.
And I thought it was adorable tofeed it.
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But they got pissed and I dropped the bag of bread and I
was running and their wingspans are huge.
They'll fuck you up. And they were like, chasing me,
like flapping their wings. And I was crying.
Trying to suck your soul? That's it.
It was scary if they really wanted to get you though, they
cruise missile at people. Have you ever seen videos?
No, OK, I'd kick a fucking goose.
I love animals. I would kick a fucking goose.
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Very Christmas. I would kick any animal that
came after me. Yeah, that was trying to, like,
hurt me. Yeah, I.
Was a little stood up here todaybecause I'm going to be sharing
a story about a creature that, in my opinion, is more
terrifying than any of the ghoststories that we've shared on
this podcast. And it's a story about a moose.
The intro, I'm like, I've never heard this.
Yeah, this sounds like it could be real, and I'm a little
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nervous. Well, I say let's set the whole
ghost thing aside for a second and let's just like unpack moose
in general real quick before we actually dive into this story
because I think moose personallyare scary as fuck.
Some people call them forest cows.
Into that I say fuck that. They're not forest cows because
if you've ever seen one of thosevideos on YouTube with them
running through snow or inside of a river at like 35 fucking
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miles an hour, that's Fact Check. 35 miles an hour.
Don't check my facts, but I think more people have been
killed by moose than bear. I believe it.
I believe it hands down. And the reason it is because if
when you're watching those videos in water running 25 to 35
miles an hour, think of their hooves, they're hitting rocks,
they're hitting this crazy terrain and they're able to
maintain that speed. And to me, I'm just like, that's
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some gnarly fucking shit. I honestly don't think most can
feel pain when I watch those videos.
Like they're numb. Like some full on Hawthorne
Heights shit. I don't know if you know that
reference, but they're the people to do the.
So cut my wrist and black my eyes like like they're on that.
Yeah. And if it's not emotionally numb
that moose are. That's not what it is.
I think they've got like a oxy hookup from a local dealer
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because they have no regard for their bodies.
And and I don't know I I didn't Fact Check that but.
We've got a bunch of meth out, Moose, yeah.
Something. That's like cocaine there.
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
So my first lesson for tonight'spodcast is let it be known that
if a moose is charging at you, you're not going to outrun it.
It's about to take 15 years of repressed teenage angst out on
your rib cage. So let's all agree right now, do
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not become target because they're fucking terrifying and
for me it's the speed and the size of them because take a
guess. How much do you think an adult
moose weighs? I'm.
Going to say a ton. 1200 lbs. Chris.
Go with £800. Actually, I'm going to say it's
probably like more like 2 1/2 because we had that baby moose,
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remember that was watching the Celtics Finals with you.
That's a surprise story, yeah. And that thing was huge two
years ago. Celtics are in the finals,
they're in the NBA playoffs. Chris is watching it.
All of a sudden we get a text message from his parents who are
in the in law apartment next to our house.
And it says lookout the window. So I go out to the living room
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and I look and there is a giant ass fucking moose like chillin
looking in our big Bay window. Like 8 feet from the actual
window. Huge.
And he's just looking, looking inside the living room.
And I'm like, Oh my God, like this, this thing is huge.
And I'm looking at it through the glass.
And then all of a sudden I have the realization that if this
thing wants to come into my house, it's just going to like
shatter the glass. It's going to kill us all and
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destroy my house. And I was like Chris, Chris.
And as soon as he like stood up from the couch, it it backed
away. It got scared and it left.
Tatum was working on triple double, just hanging out
watching a game with us. Honestly, that kind of takes the
edge off a little bit for me it.Really was like just.
Staring in the window, man. Like looking at the TV, it was
the weirdest thing. Oh wow that is nuts.
They can have to 1500 lbs and just to the shoulders 6 1/2 feet
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tall. Damn to their shoulder there's
still more to their body that's their shoulder, which is insane
and I'd also say don't let them catch you staring at their huge
rack, even if it is up to six feet wide, because they are real
4 stakes. So seriously Yang, don't fuck
with moose. Observe them from far away, very
fucking far away and just let them vibe.
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But this episode today, this isn't about just any moose.
This is about the spectre moose.And witnesses say it's
unnatural. They say that the IT stands some
between 10 and 15 feet tall to the shoulder, far bigger than
any known moose out there and their estimated weight around
£2500. That's nearly double the size of
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the largest documented moose specimen on earth.
And it's antlers absolutely massive.
Some claim they stretch 12 feet across and I just want to put
that in context. That is 26 foot dudes side by
side across. And I want to start by sharing
some stories about some of the sightings of the Spectrum moose.
One, Gilman Brown of West Newbury, MA, claimed that in
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1899 that he actually counted that it had 22 antler points on
one side. Now, you probably need some
context. The largest moose on record only
have 10 antler points on one side.
So again, more than double as far as the size goes.
But the Spectre moose's attributes, it gets even
weirder. Instead of the usual dark brown
coat, it's ghostly white. Some say it's frostnip.
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Fur even glows. And when I say white, I don't
albino, we're talking fairy dustwhite like earth reel.
But separating even further fromyour standard albino animal are
the eyes. According to most of the
accounts, the eyes are brown, not pink or reddish hue that
you'd expect from an albino animal.
So what we've got here when we put all these descriptions
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together is 1 massive brown eyedforce fucking demon.
And what makes it even stranger is despite more than 100 years
of sightings, no one's ever killed one.
No one's ever caught one, no one's ever successfully tracked
it because the second they see it, it vanishes.
Oh, like almost paranormal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So not only is this beast enormous and elusive,
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potentially paranormal, in some way, it sounds made-up, right?
It does like, straight off, right?
Like the Spectre Moose was padding its Tinder profile to
impress the ladies. Like, it's like height 15 feet.
And there's record-breaking vibes.
Absolutely haunted. Like.
Anyways, now that we were able to talk a little bit about this
mystical giant, I want to talk about some of its first actual
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sightings. And let's walk through the
documentation that we actually have on this animal.
Now there's. Other animals that are albino,
like I've seen an albino alligator that's all white.
That must look pretty fucking cool, yeah?
It's pretty fucking cool, but apparently the other alligators
try to kill it because it's different.
Oh, that's. Sad.
Yeah, and there's an albino Buffalo.
When we went to Montana, one wasactually born in Yellowstone.
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A lot of yeah. And a lot of times the albino
animals, they don't survive. So if this was an albino moose,
which is immediately the first thing I'm thinking for it to
have that many antler points, that is representation of like
how old it is, right? Like the more points it is like
is the older No, I think that's how it works for tears.
That's how it. Shedded ever.
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Oh, it just goes back. Bigger.
I think it just grows back bigger because that that's how
like you can tell like a young buck by like the size of the
antlers or is that they're small.
Well, we're actually going to get into the albino theory
towards the Ant here too, so that will come in.
The earliest sighting occurred in 1891, when a seasoned hunting
guide named Clarence Duffy was working out of Old Town, Maine.
Duffy claimed to have seen an enormous ghost white moose near
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Lobster Lake. According to his account, the
creature was unlike anything he had ever encountered in the
woods. He described it as larger than
any bull moose in the territory,with antlers that looked like
they could uproot a fucking tree.
Now, when Duffy saw this majestical creature, he had his
rifle, but he didn't take a shot.
He said something about it made him hesitate.
Maybe it was he was in awe, maybe it was fear, right?
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But whatever it was, he said that the animal moved slow,
soundless through the trees. And whatever it was, it was
enough to make an avid hunter completely stop in his tracks
and resist the urge to take homea one-of-a-kind trophy.
I mean, I could see that, right?That this is this mystical,
one-of-a-kind type creature, andit's like, I could take it home.
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No, it needs to live. Yes, hopefully that's what
someone's thinking, but. He has a lot of hope in
humanity. But I'm thinking probably he's
just probably staying there stupefied, right?
Like, you're just kind of frozen.
Yeah, in that moment. Well, just three days later,
adding to the lore, a second man, John Ross, a Bangor
lumberman, reported seeing the same beast.
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He claimed he saw the exact samecreature while working along the
same stretch of forest. What stood out to Ross wasn't
just the size, it was the way itmoved.
He described the moose as unnaturally quiet, just like our
first sighting, saying it made no sound despite its massive
frame. Ross reportedly froze where he
stood, overwhelmed by a wave of dread he couldn't explain.
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The creature locked eyes with him, just for a second, and then
vanished into the trees. No rustling, no tracks, just
completely gone. So you get the sense that these
two men were fearful because it was a big moose or something
else causing them fear here, because it sounds like they both
had this weird experience of it.Yeah, it sounds kind of
supernatural. Yeah.
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But like, to your point of awe, like, could it have just been
like, it's so majestic and big looking and like, I've never
seen anything like this in my life.
Like, I think to when we first saw the size of the Rocky
Mountains, like I couldn't stop staring at it, Right.
Like, you're taking it in. I just wonder if it's something
like that. I mean, it could be.
Well, when Ross got back to his fellow lumbermen, he shared his
story, and the story spread fast.
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But maybe more telling is that some say Ross refused to return
to that job site he was working on afterwards.
Others claimed he entirely left the logging industry that year.
O, that tells me. Either way, whatever version of
that story is true, there was fear there of running into this
beast again. As Ross and Duffy's story spread
throughout Maine, newspapers picked it up.
A white moose that could vanish without a trace.
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That was enough for a killer headline, and more than enough
to spark a legend. But what did Duffy and Rose see?
Did they really see some real creature?
Because if so, there has to be more sightings.
Well, there were. In 1892, about a year after the
first sightings by Duffy and Ross, a New York sportsman named
Howard Van Ness claimed he encountered the creature in
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Norcross, Maine. But Van Ness didn't just see the
moose, he became the first person to shoot at it.
According to the reports published in main newspapers,
Van Ness had been tracking a large animal when the woods went
dead silent. Then, almost as if it
materialized out of nowhere, thetowering tale and utterly silent
beast emerged from the trees. Unlike Ross, Van Ness didn't
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hesitate. He raised his rifles and fired
once, twice, and then a third time.
The moose was so close, too close to miss.
I imagine in that moment, Van Ness was already deciding which
wall back in New York was going to get the brand new trophy now.
But instead of staggering and bleeding and even finching, the
creature just turned and looked at him and locked eyes directly
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with Van Ness for a few fleetingmoments, which probably felt
like a few hours when a beast isstaring you in the eyes, he
stood frozen. Then the creature charged at
him. Then nest dove behind a fallen
tree to brace for impact, probably starting to wonder if
he was about to end up mounted on the Spectre moose's walls.
But at the last possible second,the moose swerved, vanishing
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into the thick woods like mist. Does he think he missed the
moose, or does he think the bullets just didn't affect him
at all? From what I picked up, it
sounded like it hit just did nothing.
It absorbed the bullet in a way.I've never been hunting.
I don't know many hunters, but admitting that you missed a
shot, I think it's a big deal inthat community.
So I hit him three times and he'd go down.
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Our story's about to get weirder, so don't you worry.
All right? When Van Ness crept back to
where the Spectre moose had stood, there were no tracks, no
blood, just broken Bush and a smell in the air that he later
described as snow and sulfur. No.
And sulfur, yeah. Woof.
And I think it's interesting that this one guy, he's the one
that shot at the moose and the moose charged them as the other
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two just stalked what they were doing and it left them alone.
Leave the evil moose alone. That's that's the moral of
story. I don't think, I don't think the
moose is evil. Oh, we're torn.
I like this. Well, Van Ness returned to New
York shortly after, and according to legend, he never
haunted in Maine again. From there, the accounts just
kept stacking up, but every timesomeone tried to bring the
Spectre moose down, it either survived or vanished.
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Let's talk about some more of these sightings.
Talked away in Maine's old newspapers, field journals and
hunting logs are continued references to something too
large, too real, too pale to be natural.
In an 1892 letter to the banger Wiggin Courier, a lumberman
described to the creature he called the Snow Horn a white
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beast that just vanished into thin air and moments.
Another man named George Nealon was so frightened by a giant
white moose in 1900 that he abandoned his bicycle that he
was on and climbed up a tree forsafety.
The moose came over, inspected and investigated his bicycle,
and then again vanished off intothe forest, never to be seen
again. Despite all of these warnings
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and eerie encounters, the legends continued to stack up
and if anything, they started togrow bolder.
And I assume probably because these legends pulled in more
hunters, more skeptics, more believers trying to ultimately
see this animal. I want to throw a quick aside
and I'm vegan. I think hunting is cruel.
But back in the 1800s, I give these people a pass because I
think the world was pretty different then, right?
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People needed to hunt to survive.
So if you're a hungry hunter andyou spot a moose this big, or
here a rumor of a moose this big, you're thinking legacy
headlines. And would you have any guess to
how long 2500 lbs of meat would last a family?
12 years, no. I don't know.
That was a little overshot. How much meat can you eat in a
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year? Yeah, I don't know.
Well, if you're feeding a familyof four and that's your primary
source of your meal. And you're eating meat a day.
Three meals a day have a. Moose for every meal.
I mean, if you've got 1200 fucking pounds of moose, yeah,
you're eating moose probably every day.
Yeah, I'd probably say like maybe like a year or two years.
Yeah, it's about a year. It's a little over a year.
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That 2500 lbs based off a familyof four and mind boggling.
But this isn't just any oversized animal.
It's the Spectre fucking moose, and it doesn't even play by our
rules because some claim it has supernatural abilities like the
ability to rise from the dead. One of the strangest modern
legends come from a hunting party camped near Mollanuskas
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stream. They claim to have shot and
killed a giant white moose, strung its body up from a tree
to drain its blood, only to findit missing by morning.
But it didn't stay missing that night.
The creature returned, its throat still caught, bullet
wounds visible and yet somehow completely alive.
The team at the river fired at the animal again, and they
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claimed to have killed it a second time.
But then, as they stood there, stunned, rifles still hot, the
moose stirred, stood up, and calmly walked off into the
forest. All right, That yeah, that's
something paranormal. That's not normal.
Yeah, I don't believe that story.
Well, it's not done, Kathy. Petrified, the crew didn't dare
to try to kill the animal 1/3 time.
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Now to your point into Christmaspoint.
At this point I don't know if this is a ghost moose, if it
made a deal with the devil, if this is Jesus pet, or if it
drinks from the fountain of youth.
But things are about to take a fucking weirder turn because on
that same fucking day, apparently right after the
scepter, moose stumbled into thefucking woods after being killed
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twice. Bert Beggings of Ashland, ME in
the same woods but not with the molluscas stream party claimed
to see a giant creature walking around with its throat still cut
open. Scared Pagans grabbed his rifle
and shot at the moose, but the gunfire had no effect.
After his fight response failing, flight took over.
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Pagans dropped his rifle and raninto his home.
From inside, he peered out the windows, where he watched the
moose pick up his rifle with histeeth, fire it off several
times, and then walk away into the woods.
My God. I love this story.
I love it too. It's so good.
It's so. Good.
How much did the man have to drink that day?
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Oh. My God, I had a lot.
A lot. But but two separate parties
claiming one to kill the moose multiple times sliced his
throat. A completely different person
saying, yeah, I saw this, it hada slit throat.
OK, you're losing me with it thinking of.
The cottage shooting with. A seat, but I don't know, it's a
little credibility when you got people in different areas
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seeing. I mean, like an animal picking
up a shotgun, right? I mean like grabs it and it's
like one of those like pump it, pump it like maybe.
But then I'm like shaking his head like.
How's it doing? Like how does?
It get triggered to tongue like.I was trying thinking like that
maybe, but no, no, none of none of.
That story upside, you had a bunch of people claiming to see
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this very strange moose. Yeah, but that part was
interesting. Did anybody in the party take a
picture of this very strange moose that no ones ever seen
before? The 1800s you needed like 25
minutes. To set up a.
Camera. Camera, Yeah.
We had cameras. Yeah, they had cameras, yeah,
but it took like 5 minutes to set one up.
Yeah. Yeah, but the moose would be
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hanging from the tree. He like gunpowdered.
I also wonder though, was it black and white photos?
Like what did it look like? But.
If it was black and white, it would still be white.
Yeah, these are good points. No, there are no photos.
No photos. Stop it.
But as weird as these stories are, and admittedly they're
fucking strange, there are more.The sightings just continue to
pile up. And the sightings start to
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create a case for some other strange attributes for the
scepter Moose, because our next sighting came in.
Allegedly, the beasts had been seen standing directly in front
of a restaurant and then hours later the restaurant burned to
the ground. This LED some to start
theorizing that the Spectre Moose is some kind of harbinger
or bad omen of something is going to ultimately be coming.
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Personally, it just led me to think that maybe the Spectre
Moose likes to play a fire, but I.
Mean it's shooting guns. It could light a match.
Sounds like a good time, but jokes aside, some native
traditions hold white animals inextremely high regardless.
In fact, the Wabanaki believe white animals are sacred.
In fact, I want to share a quotefrom a Wabanaki elder with you.
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His name was Tama Joseph, and this was recorded in the early
1900s. And he said a white animal is
not just a sign, it is a voice. It speaks for the spirits and we
must listen to it. So it sounds as though the
Wabanaki in some ways see these animals as spiritual messengers,
some type of link between the physical world and the spirit
world. Further, the Wabanaki, a white
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moose in particular, is believedto be a sign of the spirit realm
and specifically a warning or a blessing, depending on the
context. In a 1987 interview preserved in
the Wabanaki Center's cultural archives, a Penn Bosca
storyteller recounted how when the great white moose comes,
something is about to change. It is not to be hunted.
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It chooses when it wants to be seen.
And it was also said that killing one was said to bring
sickness and tragedy among thosewho killed it.
And maybe that's why it always just disappears.
Maybe it's not meant to be seen.Maybe it chooses who it
encounters and when. Maybe it's not walking on our
kind of ground if it is some type of divine spiritual animal.
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It's interesting because I couldsee there being an albino moose,
like a one off and a couple of people seeing it and legend
growing. Yeah, but now you're adding this
whole Native American spiritual twist to it.
And I did have a Native Americanmedicine man once called me the
Great White Moose. Is this real?
No what? Well, I just want to know this
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cool story that was going. To go with that, that was it.
To round this out with a little modern skepticism, I found a
2019 interview with Maine wildlife biologist Dr. Sheila
Corbett, and she said that thereare white moose.
They do in fact exist. They are extremely rare, but
they are absolutely not supernatural.
What people see out there is usually a big animal that might
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be white in bad light and a little bit of wild imagination.
So that's what she said. And then there's always the most
likely explanation. Tall tales, media hype,
isolation, a little too much whiskey, A combination of all
the above. So where does this leave us with
this story? Well, believe it or not, people
still claim to see the Spectre Moose today on hunting forums
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and local Facebook groups, especially in the dead of
winter. Some say it's not just real,
it's something that is refusing to die.
Because the Spectre Moose, in myopinion, isn't just a Cryptid.
It might be a mirror, a reflection of wilderness itself.
Massive, unknowable, maybe a little haunted.
So if you ever find yourself deep in the woods of Maine and
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hear a rumble behind you, don't assume it's Thunder.
Play it smart. Get the fuck out of there.
Because if you do see a moose, especially a giant Snow White
antler moose with Tinder worthy stats, don't fuck with the
moose. Because some things fuck back.
And that's my story on the Spectre Moose.
I love the Spectre Moose story. It's wild.
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I don't know if it's crypted, ifit is just an albino moose that
people are are, you know, dolling up some fancy stories
with it because the white moose would be real.
It would make a white moose cooler, giving it some fucking a
huge rack and fucking, you know,making it bulletproof.
Yeah. But just seeing a white moose
would be cool enough to get the fact that super size the thing
and make it supernatural. Right, right.
We might have talked about this in the pod before.
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I'm not sure. But like, I've lived in New
England my entire life. Do you know how many moose I've
seen in New England? How many?
Zero. Really.
Yeah. Do you know how many moose I've
seen in Alaska? I was there for 12 hours.
I saw four of them. Yeah.
Yeah. So I've seen like 0 in New
England. So I just say that's put in
context that like, yeah, there'sa lot here, but it's still rare
to run into one. I've seen 2/2.
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One, watch the Celtics game withme.
Yeah, sick. The other time we were driving,
you know, we saw it off in a field.
It had 300 yards away. It was a way off in the
distance. Yeah, it had it, baby with it.
Yeah, all cute. Yeah, that's why they stay
though. Like when you see those signs on
the road when you're up in like mountainous areas where moose
live. That's probably why moose are
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kill more people than bears because of car.
Accidents. Oh, maybe.
Because if you hit a moose it will total your I feel.
Like hitting a barrel, fuck yourcar up too pretty.
Good. But a moose like you started
like collar. Yeah.
Well, yeah. And they're just.
They're solid. Yeah.
So yeah, on 101, right before you get into Manchester, there's
a moose crossing sign. There ain't no moose there.
Come on. I've never seen a moose.
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I've done 101 there. Has to have been sightings of
moose for them. Do you think so?
They don't. Just put the sign.
Up, I think they put it up for the people from Massachusetts to
be like, oh, we could see moose.Honey, this is exciting.
Let's go. No, in downtown Manchester.
I think that's how street signs work.
Chris and our big man episode, they saw a Bigfoot in in fucking
Detroit, MI. So if they can see Bigfoot in
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Detroit, we got moose here. Manchester.
The Manchester Moose. Manchester Moose Well, Chris,
Kathy, I hope you enjoyed the story of the Spectre Moose and
gang. I hope you enjoyed it as well.
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Thank you guys. Specter moves, Specter moves,
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does, whatever the. Specter moves does.
Imagine standing alone in the dense forest of northern Maine.
The sun's gone down, the Sky's turning black, and all you can
hear in the distance is the snapof the branch.
And then just silence. And in that moment, you see it.
A creature taller than your car,antlers as wide as your garage
door. It's coat pure white, glowing
faintly in the moonlight. And then suddenly, as it
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appears, it's gone. No sound, no trail, no
explanations. The locals call it the Spectre
Moose. And tonight we're diving head
first into one of New England's weirdest crypted legends.
I'm Sean. I'm Kathy.
And I'm Chris. And this is weirder after dark.
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Are there any animals out there that scare either of you?
Like, terrify you? Like you won't go near them?
Like you're just like, that's going to fuck me up.
I don't want. That I'm not afraid that it's
going to fuck me up, but I really, really don't like
spiders. OK.
All right. Like.
I'm terrified of spiders. Like, how do you get rid of
them? So there's a spider on the wall
right now. Oh my God, are you freaking out?
Just. Try panic.
I learned yes, yes. And then I asked someone to help
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me or I don't go back in that room until Chris gets them.
All right, Chris, so you've cleaned up many of spiders for
Kathy is what I'm taking away. 2:00 in the morning.
That was a lizard. In the bathroom, I think I saw a
spider. Nobody's going to bed until you
find that spider. I think I saw, I don't know
what. He's talking about.
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All right, all right, spiders, I'm saying that's kind of basic.
But I know, I know, but I don't.I don't think that there's
really an animal that I'm afraidof all.
Right, Chris? Wolves are fucking terrifying.
We saw wolves. I've seen them, yeah, but I saw
one out in the woods alone. I'd be scared.
Yeah, I'd be pretty scared too. I want to say sharks, but I've
been scuba diving or snorkeling with sharks and it's actually
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not that bad. Yeah, not a great white though,
right? No, nothing that big.
No sand sharks. No sharks, Hammerhead.
Hammerhead, yeah. That's a big shark.
Sharks are good though, because like, you're in their home.
Like, yeah, we don't belong there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like they're going to fuck
you up if they choose to. But where else are you going to
see an animal that you'd be afraid of other?
I mean if you go to a zoo. I mean, I got 1.
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I'm fucking terrified of geese. Those things are straight
killers, man. I challenge anyone right now
that thinks this is fucking funny to go ahead and Google a
image of a goose's mouth. They got teeth on their fucking
tongues, which is some demonic shit, First off.
And then second, they've got some of them got those, like,
weird colored eyes that they're like, looking at you.
You ever walk by a goose? You ever walk by one?
Yeah. What do they do?
They turn and look at you. Yeah, and then what?
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They hiss. They hiss and they kiss.
You, they hiss, they got teeth on their tongues.
They're fucking devil shit. I've, I've been chased by a
group of geese when I was little.
Yeah, like little little. I went with my mom to go feed
the ducks. And I had some bag of bread and
I was, like, all cute with pigtails.
And I thought it was adorable tofeed it.
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But they got pissed and I dropped the bag of bread and I
was running and their wingspans are huge.
They'll fuck you up. And they were like, chasing me,
like flapping their wings. And I was crying.
Trying to suck your soul? That's it.
It was scary if they really wanted to get you though, they
cruise missile at people. Have you ever seen videos?
No, OK, I'd kick a fucking goose.
I love animals. I would kick a fucking goose.
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Very Christmas. I would kick any animal that
came after me. Yeah, that was trying to, like,
hurt me. Yeah, I.
Was a little stood up here todaybecause I'm going to be sharing
a story about a creature that, in my opinion, is more
terrifying than any of the ghoststories that we've shared on
this podcast. And it's a story about a moose.
The intro, I'm like, I've never heard this.
Yeah, this sounds like it could be real, and I'm a little
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nervous. Well, I say let's set the whole
ghost thing aside for a second and let's just like unpack moose
in general real quick before we actually dive into this story
because I think moose personallyare scary as fuck.
Some people call them forest cows.
Into that I say fuck that. They're not forest cows because
if you've ever seen one of thosevideos on YouTube with them
running through snow or inside of a river at like 35 fucking
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miles an hour, that's Fact Check. 35 miles an hour.
Don't check my facts, but I think more people have been
killed by moose than bear. I believe it.
I believe it hands down. And the reason it is because if
when you're watching those videos in water running 25 to 35
miles an hour, think of their hooves, they're hitting rocks,
they're hitting this crazy terrain and they're able to
maintain that speed. And to me, I'm just like, that's
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some gnarly fucking shit. I honestly don't think most can
feel pain when I watch those videos.
Like they're numb. Like some full on Hawthorne
Heights shit. I don't know if you know that
reference, but they're the people to do the.
So cut my wrist and black my eyes like like they're on that.
Yeah. And if it's not emotionally numb
that moose are. That's not what it is.
I think they've got like a oxy hookup from a local dealer
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because they have no regard for their bodies.
And and I don't know I I didn't Fact Check that but.
We've got a bunch of meth out, Moose, yeah.
Something. That's like cocaine there.
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
So my first lesson for tonight'spodcast is let it be known that
if a moose is charging at you, you're not going to outrun it.
It's about to take 15 years of repressed teenage angst out on
your rib cage. So let's all agree right now, do
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not become target because they're fucking terrifying and
for me it's the speed and the size of them because take a
guess. How much do you think an adult
moose weighs? I'm.
Going to say a ton. 1200 lbs. Chris.
Go with £800. Actually, I'm going to say it's
probably like more like 2 1/2 because we had that baby moose,
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remember that was watching the Celtics Finals with you.
That's a surprise story, yeah. And that thing was huge two
years ago. Celtics are in the finals,
they're in the NBA playoffs. Chris is watching it.
All of a sudden we get a text message from his parents who are
in the in law apartment next to our house.
And it says lookout the window. So I go out to the living room
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and I look and there is a giant ass fucking moose like chillin
looking in our big Bay window. Like 8 feet from the actual
window. Huge.
And he's just looking, looking inside the living room.
And I'm like, Oh my God, like this, this thing is huge.
And I'm looking at it through the glass.
And then all of a sudden I have the realization that if this
thing wants to come into my house, it's just going to like
shatter the glass. It's going to kill us all and
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destroy my house. And I was like Chris, Chris.
And as soon as he like stood up from the couch, it it backed
away. It got scared and it left.
Tatum was working on triple double, just hanging out
watching a game with us. Honestly, that kind of takes the
edge off a little bit for me it.Really was like just.
Staring in the window, man. Like looking at the TV, it was
the weirdest thing. Oh wow that is nuts.
They can have to 1500 lbs and just to the shoulders 6 1/2 feet
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tall. Damn to their shoulder there's
still more to their body that's their shoulder, which is insane
and I'd also say don't let them catch you staring at their huge
rack, even if it is up to six feet wide, because they are real
4 stakes. So seriously Yang, don't fuck
with moose. Observe them from far away, very
fucking far away and just let them vibe.
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But this episode today, this isn't about just any moose.
This is about the spectre moose.And witnesses say it's
unnatural. They say that the IT stands some
between 10 and 15 feet tall to the shoulder, far bigger than
any known moose out there and their estimated weight around
£2500. That's nearly double the size of
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the largest documented moose specimen on earth.
And it's antlers absolutely massive.
Some claim they stretch 12 feet across and I just want to put
that in context. That is 26 foot dudes side by
side across. And I want to start by sharing
some stories about some of the sightings of the Spectrum moose.
One, Gilman Brown of West Newbury, MA, claimed that in
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1899 that he actually counted that it had 22 antler points on
one side. Now, you probably need some
context. The largest moose on record only
have 10 antler points on one side.
So again, more than double as far as the size goes.
But the Spectre moose's attributes, it gets even
weirder. Instead of the usual dark brown
coat, it's ghostly white. Some say it's frostnip.
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Fur even glows. And when I say white, I don't
albino, we're talking fairy dustwhite like earth reel.
But separating even further fromyour standard albino animal are
the eyes. According to most of the
accounts, the eyes are brown, not pink or reddish hue that
you'd expect from an albino animal.
So what we've got here when we put all these descriptions
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together is 1 massive brown eyedforce fucking demon.
And what makes it even stranger is despite more than 100 years
of sightings, no one's ever killed one.
No one's ever caught one, no one's ever successfully tracked
it because the second they see it, it vanishes.
Oh, like almost paranormal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So not only is this beast enormous and elusive,
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potentially paranormal, in some way, it sounds made-up, right?
It does like, straight off, right?
Like the Spectre Moose was padding its Tinder profile to
impress the ladies. Like, it's like height 15 feet.
And there's record-breaking vibes.
Absolutely haunted. Like.
Anyways, now that we were able to talk a little bit about this
mystical giant, I want to talk about some of its first actual
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sightings. And let's walk through the
documentation that we actually have on this animal.
Now there's. Other animals that are albino,
like I've seen an albino alligator that's all white.
That must look pretty fucking cool, yeah?
It's pretty fucking cool, but apparently the other alligators
try to kill it because it's different.
Oh, that's. Sad.
Yeah, and there's an albino Buffalo.
When we went to Montana, one wasactually born in Yellowstone.
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A lot of yeah. And a lot of times the albino
animals, they don't survive. So if this was an albino moose,
which is immediately the first thing I'm thinking for it to
have that many antler points, that is representation of like
how old it is, right? Like the more points it is like
is the older No, I think that's how it works for tears.
That's how it. Shedded ever.
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Oh, it just goes back. Bigger.
I think it just grows back bigger because that that's how
like you can tell like a young buck by like the size of the
antlers or is that they're small.
Well, we're actually going to get into the albino theory
towards the Ant here too, so that will come in.
The earliest sighting occurred in 1891, when a seasoned hunting
guide named Clarence Duffy was working out of Old Town, Maine.
Duffy claimed to have seen an enormous ghost white moose near
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Lobster Lake. According to his account, the
creature was unlike anything he had ever encountered in the
woods. He described it as larger than
any bull moose in the territory,with antlers that looked like
they could uproot a fucking tree.
Now, when Duffy saw this majestical creature, he had his
rifle, but he didn't take a shot.
He said something about it made him hesitate.
Maybe it was he was in awe, maybe it was fear, right?
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But whatever it was, he said that the animal moved slow,
soundless through the trees. And whatever it was, it was
enough to make an avid hunter completely stop in his tracks
and resist the urge to take homea one-of-a-kind trophy.
I mean, I could see that, right?That this is this mystical,
one-of-a-kind type creature, andit's like, I could take it home.
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No, it needs to live. Yes, hopefully that's what
someone's thinking, but. He has a lot of hope in
humanity. But I'm thinking probably he's
just probably staying there stupefied, right?
Like, you're just kind of frozen.
Yeah, in that moment. Well, just three days later,
adding to the lore, a second man, John Ross, a Bangor
lumberman, reported seeing the same beast.
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He claimed he saw the exact samecreature while working along the
same stretch of forest. What stood out to Ross wasn't
just the size, it was the way itmoved.
He described the moose as unnaturally quiet, just like our
first sighting, saying it made no sound despite its massive
frame. Ross reportedly froze where he
stood, overwhelmed by a wave of dread he couldn't explain.
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The creature locked eyes with him, just for a second, and then
vanished into the trees. No rustling, no tracks, just
completely gone. So you get the sense that these
two men were fearful because it was a big moose or something
else causing them fear here, because it sounds like they both
had this weird experience of it.Yeah, it sounds kind of
supernatural. Yeah.
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But like, to your point of awe, like, could it have just been
like, it's so majestic and big looking and like, I've never
seen anything like this in my life.
Like, I think to when we first saw the size of the Rocky
Mountains, like I couldn't stop staring at it, Right.
Like, you're taking it in. I just wonder if it's something
like that. I mean, it could be.
Well, when Ross got back to his fellow lumbermen, he shared his
story, and the story spread fast.
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But maybe more telling is that some say Ross refused to return
to that job site he was working on afterwards.
Others claimed he entirely left the logging industry that year.
O, that tells me. Either way, whatever version of
that story is true, there was fear there of running into this
beast again. As Ross and Duffy's story spread
throughout Maine, newspapers picked it up.
A white moose that could vanish without a trace.
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That was enough for a killer headline, and more than enough
to spark a legend. But what did Duffy and Rose see?
Did they really see some real creature?
Because if so, there has to be more sightings.
Well, there were. In 1892, about a year after the
first sightings by Duffy and Ross, a New York sportsman named
Howard Van Ness claimed he encountered the creature in
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Norcross, Maine. But Van Ness didn't just see the
moose, he became the first person to shoot at it.
According to the reports published in main newspapers,
Van Ness had been tracking a large animal when the woods went
dead silent. Then, almost as if it
materialized out of nowhere, thetowering tale and utterly silent
beast emerged from the trees. Unlike Ross, Van Ness didn't
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hesitate. He raised his rifles and fired
once, twice, and then a third time.
The moose was so close, too close to miss.
I imagine in that moment, Van Ness was already deciding which
wall back in New York was going to get the brand new trophy now.
But instead of staggering and bleeding and even finching, the
creature just turned and looked at him and locked eyes directly
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with Van Ness for a few fleetingmoments, which probably felt
like a few hours when a beast isstaring you in the eyes, he
stood frozen. Then the creature charged at
him. Then nest dove behind a fallen
tree to brace for impact, probably starting to wonder if
he was about to end up mounted on the Spectre moose's walls.
But at the last possible second,the moose swerved, vanishing
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into the thick woods like mist. Does he think he missed the
moose, or does he think the bullets just didn't affect him
at all? From what I picked up, it
sounded like it hit just did nothing.
It absorbed the bullet in a way.I've never been hunting.
I don't know many hunters, but admitting that you missed a
shot, I think it's a big deal inthat community.
So I hit him three times and he'd go down.
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Our story's about to get weirder, so don't you worry.
All right? When Van Ness crept back to
where the Spectre moose had stood, there were no tracks, no
blood, just broken Bush and a smell in the air that he later
described as snow and sulfur. No.
And sulfur, yeah. Woof.
And I think it's interesting that this one guy, he's the one
that shot at the moose and the moose charged them as the other
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two just stalked what they were doing and it left them alone.
Leave the evil moose alone. That's that's the moral of
story. I don't think, I don't think the
moose is evil. Oh, we're torn.
I like this. Well, Van Ness returned to New
York shortly after, and according to legend, he never
haunted in Maine again. From there, the accounts just
kept stacking up, but every timesomeone tried to bring the
Spectre moose down, it either survived or vanished.
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Let's talk about some more of these sightings.
Talked away in Maine's old newspapers, field journals and
hunting logs are continued references to something too
large, too real, too pale to be natural.
In an 1892 letter to the banger Wiggin Courier, a lumberman
described to the creature he called the Snow Horn a white
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beast that just vanished into thin air and moments.
Another man named George Nealon was so frightened by a giant
white moose in 1900 that he abandoned his bicycle that he
was on and climbed up a tree forsafety.
The moose came over, inspected and investigated his bicycle,
and then again vanished off intothe forest, never to be seen
again. Despite all of these warnings
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and eerie encounters, the legends continued to stack up
and if anything, they started togrow bolder.
And I assume probably because these legends pulled in more
hunters, more skeptics, more believers trying to ultimately
see this animal. I want to throw a quick aside
and I'm vegan. I think hunting is cruel.
But back in the 1800s, I give these people a pass because I
think the world was pretty different then, right?
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People needed to hunt to survive.
So if you're a hungry hunter andyou spot a moose this big, or
here a rumor of a moose this big, you're thinking legacy
headlines. And would you have any guess to
how long 2500 lbs of meat would last a family?
12 years, no. I don't know.
That was a little overshot. How much meat can you eat in a
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year? Yeah, I don't know.
Well, if you're feeding a familyof four and that's your primary
source of your meal. And you're eating meat a day.
Three meals a day have a. Moose for every meal.
I mean, if you've got 1200 fucking pounds of moose, yeah,
you're eating moose probably every day.
Yeah, I'd probably say like maybe like a year or two years.
Yeah, it's about a year. It's a little over a year.
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That 2500 lbs based off a familyof four and mind boggling.
But this isn't just any oversized animal.
It's the Spectre fucking moose, and it doesn't even play by our
rules because some claim it has supernatural abilities like the
ability to rise from the dead. One of the strangest modern
legends come from a hunting party camped near Mollanuskas
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stream. They claim to have shot and
killed a giant white moose, strung its body up from a tree
to drain its blood, only to findit missing by morning.
But it didn't stay missing that night.
The creature returned, its throat still caught, bullet
wounds visible and yet somehow completely alive.
The team at the river fired at the animal again, and they
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claimed to have killed it a second time.
But then, as they stood there, stunned, rifles still hot, the
moose stirred, stood up, and calmly walked off into the
forest. All right, That yeah, that's
something paranormal. That's not normal.
Yeah, I don't believe that story.
Well, it's not done, Kathy. Petrified, the crew didn't dare
to try to kill the animal 1/3 time.
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Now to your point into Christmaspoint.
At this point I don't know if this is a ghost moose, if it
made a deal with the devil, if this is Jesus pet, or if it
drinks from the fountain of youth.
But things are about to take a fucking weirder turn because on
that same fucking day, apparently right after the
scepter, moose stumbled into thefucking woods after being killed
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twice. Bert Beggings of Ashland, ME in
the same woods but not with the molluscas stream party claimed
to see a giant creature walking around with its throat still cut
open. Scared Pagans grabbed his rifle
and shot at the moose, but the gunfire had no effect.
After his fight response failing, flight took over.
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Pagans dropped his rifle and raninto his home.
From inside, he peered out the windows, where he watched the
moose pick up his rifle with histeeth, fire it off several
times, and then walk away into the woods.
My God. I love this story.
I love it too. It's so good.
It's so. Good.
How much did the man have to drink that day?
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Oh. My God, I had a lot.
A lot. But but two separate parties
claiming one to kill the moose multiple times sliced his
throat. A completely different person
saying, yeah, I saw this, it hada slit throat.
OK, you're losing me with it thinking of.
The cottage shooting with. A seat, but I don't know, it's a
little credibility when you got people in different areas
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seeing. I mean, like an animal picking
up a shotgun, right? I mean like grabs it and it's
like one of those like pump it, pump it like maybe.
But then I'm like shaking his head like.
How's it doing? Like how does?
It get triggered to tongue like.I was trying thinking like that
maybe, but no, no, none of none of.
That story upside, you had a bunch of people claiming to see
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this very strange moose. Yeah, but that part was
interesting. Did anybody in the party take a
picture of this very strange moose that no ones ever seen
before? The 1800s you needed like 25
minutes. To set up a.
Camera. Camera, Yeah.
We had cameras. Yeah, they had cameras, yeah,
but it took like 5 minutes to set one up.
Yeah. Yeah, but the moose would be
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hanging from the tree. He like gunpowdered.
I also wonder though, was it black and white photos?
Like what did it look like? But.
If it was black and white, it would still be white.
Yeah, these are good points. No, there are no photos.
No photos. Stop it.
But as weird as these stories are, and admittedly they're
fucking strange, there are more.The sightings just continue to
pile up. And the sightings start to
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create a case for some other strange attributes for the
scepter Moose, because our next sighting came in.
Allegedly, the beasts had been seen standing directly in front
of a restaurant and then hours later the restaurant burned to
the ground. This LED some to start
theorizing that the Spectre Moose is some kind of harbinger
or bad omen of something is going to ultimately be coming.
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Personally, it just led me to think that maybe the Spectre
Moose likes to play a fire, but I.
Mean it's shooting guns. It could light a match.
Sounds like a good time, but jokes aside, some native
traditions hold white animals inextremely high regardless.
In fact, the Wabanaki believe white animals are sacred.
In fact, I want to share a quotefrom a Wabanaki elder with you.
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His name was Tama Joseph, and this was recorded in the early
1900s. And he said a white animal is
not just a sign, it is a voice. It speaks for the spirits and we
must listen to it. So it sounds as though the
Wabanaki in some ways see these animals as spiritual messengers,
some type of link between the physical world and the spirit
world. Further, the Wabanaki, a white
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moose in particular, is believedto be a sign of the spirit realm
and specifically a warning or a blessing, depending on the
context. In a 1987 interview preserved in
the Wabanaki Center's cultural archives, a Penn Bosca
storyteller recounted how when the great white moose comes,
something is about to change. It is not to be hunted.
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It chooses when it wants to be seen.
And it was also said that killing one was said to bring
sickness and tragedy among thosewho killed it.
And maybe that's why it always just disappears.
Maybe it's not meant to be seen.Maybe it chooses who it
encounters and when. Maybe it's not walking on our
kind of ground if it is some type of divine spiritual animal.
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It's interesting because I couldsee there being an albino moose,
like a one off and a couple of people seeing it and legend
growing. Yeah, but now you're adding this
whole Native American spiritual twist to it.
And I did have a Native Americanmedicine man once called me the
Great White Moose. Is this real?
No what? Well, I just want to know this
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cool story that was going. To go with that, that was it.
To round this out with a little modern skepticism, I found a
2019 interview with Maine wildlife biologist Dr. Sheila
Corbett, and she said that thereare white moose.
They do in fact exist. They are extremely rare, but
they are absolutely not supernatural.
What people see out there is usually a big animal that might
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be white in bad light and a little bit of wild imagination.
So that's what she said. And then there's always the most
likely explanation. Tall tales, media hype,
isolation, a little too much whiskey, A combination of all
the above. So where does this leave us with
this story? Well, believe it or not, people
still claim to see the Spectre Moose today on hunting forums
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and local Facebook groups, especially in the dead of
winter. Some say it's not just real,
it's something that is refusing to die.
Because the Spectre Moose, in myopinion, isn't just a Cryptid.
It might be a mirror, a reflection of wilderness itself.
Massive, unknowable, maybe a little haunted.
So if you ever find yourself deep in the woods of Maine and
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hear a rumble behind you, don't assume it's Thunder.
Play it smart. Get the fuck out of there.
Because if you do see a moose, especially a giant Snow White
antler moose with Tinder worthy stats, don't fuck with the
moose. Because some things fuck back.
And that's my story on the Spectre Moose.
I love the Spectre Moose story. It's wild.
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I don't know if it's crypted, ifit is just an albino moose that
people are are, you know, dolling up some fancy stories
with it because the white moose would be real.
It would make a white moose cooler, giving it some fucking a
huge rack and fucking, you know,making it bulletproof.
Yeah. But just seeing a white moose
would be cool enough to get the fact that super size the thing
and make it supernatural. Right, right.
We might have talked about this in the pod before.
(24:37):
I'm not sure. But like, I've lived in New
England my entire life. Do you know how many moose I've
seen in New England? How many?
Zero. Really.
Yeah. Do you know how many moose I've
seen in Alaska? I was there for 12 hours.
I saw four of them. Yeah.
Yeah. So I've seen like 0 in New
England. So I just say that's put in
context that like, yeah, there'sa lot here, but it's still rare
to run into one. I've seen 2/2.
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One, watch the Celtics game withme.
Yeah, sick. The other time we were driving,
you know, we saw it off in a field.
It had 300 yards away. It was a way off in the
distance. Yeah, it had it, baby with it.
Yeah, all cute. Yeah, that's why they stay
though. Like when you see those signs on
the road when you're up in like mountainous areas where moose
live. That's probably why moose are
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kill more people than bears because of car.
Accidents. Oh, maybe.
Because if you hit a moose it will total your I feel.
Like hitting a barrel, fuck yourcar up too pretty.
Good. But a moose like you started
like collar. Yeah.
Well, yeah. And they're just.
They're solid. Yeah.
So yeah, on 101, right before you get into Manchester, there's
a moose crossing sign. There ain't no moose there.
Come on. I've never seen a moose.
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I've done 101 there. Has to have been sightings of
moose for them. Do you think so?
They don't. Just put the sign.
Up, I think they put it up for the people from Massachusetts to
be like, oh, we could see moose.Honey, this is exciting.
Let's go. No, in downtown Manchester.
I think that's how street signs work.
Chris and our big man episode, they saw a Bigfoot in in fucking
Detroit, MI. So if they can see Bigfoot in
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Detroit, we got moose here. Manchester.
The Manchester Moose. Manchester Moose Well, Chris,
Kathy, I hope you enjoyed the story of the Spectre Moose and
gang. I hope you enjoyed it as well.
If you did, feel free to go ahead and check out our
Instagram at waiter after Dark, where I'll post some follow up
and supporting evidence and images for this story here
today. And don't forget it's not just
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Instagram where we're building communities.
You can also find over on Redditand on Facebook again at weirder
after dark and that will give you the opportunity to connect
not just with me, Chris and Kathy, but for other listeners
and other members of our gang just like you who are loving
this shit. And Speaking of loving this
shit. If you're loving this shit and
you want more of this shit, the best thing that you can do to
help us continue moving forward and putting out some great
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fucking rock star episodes aboutfucking legendary moose.
Wherever you're listening to this, whether it is Apple
podcast or Spotify, go ahead, drop a five star review, drop a
little comment on that. We'd appreciate that for ever.
And no, we're always on the huntfor your stories.
Have you seen the spectrum, miss?
Have you shot it, killed it? It came back to life, killed it
again, it came back to life. And then it like got your
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neighbor. And so we want to share those
stories. So go ahead and you can send
your weird New England stories to us.
And you can send that to the gang at Weirder After dark.com.
And if you do, we'll share one of your stories in an upcoming
Listener Tales episode. And remember, it always gets a
little weirder after dark. Bye.
Thank you guys. Specter moves, Specter moves,
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does, whatever the. Specter moves does.
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