October 21, 2025 • 28 mins
In the 1600s, Harry Main was a fisherman in Ipswich, Massachusetts, and he was a man consumed by greed and cruelty. But when he finally died, the townspeople buried him close to the tide line so the Devil, or the sea, could claim him.
Centuries later, locals still swear that during coastal storms, they can hear his screams.
Join us as we unravel one of New England’s oldest maritime legends: the curse of Harry Mai: Buried by the Sea.
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Ipswich, Massachusetts in the mid 1600s was the backdrop of
the darkest story I have ever shared with you guys.
Betrayal, murder, a treasure hunt, a cursed house, demons,
angels, a restless ghosts all come together to tell this tale.
So jump in the car. We're going on a road trip.
We're going down route one to Route 133 and then back in time
to explore Ipswich and the curseof Harry Mane.
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I'm Chris. I'm Kathy.
I'm Sean. And this is weirder after dark.
Darkest story you've ever told us?
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Chris told us a lot of weird shit, bro.
Yeah, no, this one gets pretty dark.
Darker than dark entry forest. That was pretty fucked up.
Creatures in the woods suicides.It's close, Yeah.
I don't know this this one mightbe a little more fucked up.
I. Don't know.
I like dark stories. And this one is probably mostly
true. Oh, or at least parts of it.
OK, I don't know if we're mentally ready for that.
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Yeah. Darkest story ever.
Friday evening when we're a little sleepy.
Yeah. Little little sleepy, It's been
a long week. We're about to wake the fuck up.
It's going to scare the shit outof us.
Guys been to Ipswich, MA. I think we have.
I know you have. Yeah.
You ever been shown? I don't know.
I don't. I'm not sure it's it wasn't
memorable. If I have, sorry Ipswich, we
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love you. It kind of looks like time
itself stopped centuries ago. It's got plenty of historical
buildings, cobblestone roads or sidewalks, fishing boats more
than the harbour, so it's a quintessential New England
coastal town. You can stop and get some of
their famous fried clams and yearly they have a chowder
festival which cool. Have y'all, but y'all like New
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England Chowder? Are you chowder people?
I'm not. Eating.
No, it's just gross, like the texture of the whole experience.
It's just not OK. Born and raised in New England.
Do not get clam shatter. Don't get it, sorry.
I used to deliver to a lot of restaurants in Ipswich when I
worked in Haverhill at Lionel Valleys and a bunch of different
restaurants so it was one place to clam box and it was all out
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of state license plates and sometimes it would take hours in
line to get some shitty fried clams.
I highly recommend you don't go.How come?
They're always called like Clam Haven, Clam Box.
They sell clams. All right, got her.
Got her. I am not awakened.
That's Damon. So Ipswich was founded in 1634,
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so it has as much history as you're going to find anywhere in
the United States today. I want to tell you guys about
one of its darkest tales. So one day in 1671, a man by the
name of Henry Maine and his friend Andrew Diamond landed
their boat in Ipswich Harbour. They claimed they were fishermen
from the Isles of Shoals, a small group of islands from
about 6 miles off the coast of New Hampshire.
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Sean, you had an episode about what he knows.
Yeah, a lot of stuff is going ondown over there A.
Lot of crazy shit going on the Isles of Shoals back in the day.
Yeah. So they decided they were going
to move to Ipswich and they bought a four bedroom house at
32 Water St. in cash. Now, while Water St. was not the
most prominent neighborhood in Ipswich at the time for those
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two quote UN quote fishermen to be able to buy a house cash, it
raised some eyebrows. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are they doing? They bootlegging some.
Some liquor? What the Hell's going?
On Oh, we'll get into that. There's all kinds of dark shit
going on in the story. The two men continued to claim
to fish off the Isles of Shoal and while earning A respectable
living, by no means should have been able to get rich off of
selling the daily catch. This being said, Andrew and
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Henry over the next few years bought a Wharf in Ipswich and
rented the boat slips and sold supplies to locals fishermen.
A whole fucking Wharf. A whole Wharf.
Where they making their money from?
Yeah, they're doing something sketch.
Yeah, they're doing something that you're supposed to be
doing. Oh, take your guess.
What are they doing? I'm going to say selling people.
Oh, that's dark. Yeah, so I was trying to think
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like, what's like super dark andfucked up?
I think they're hitman. They're on the aisle of shows.
People go out fishing and they push them to the ocean dead.
One of us is right, right? No, no.
Continue on. So they also bought rental
properties across the Ipswich area.
Then they built a second Wharf catering to large merchant
ships. Over time, they also bought a
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fleet of merchant ships, so for two fishermen, they made some
very sizable investments. And they didn't have, like they
didn't, I mean, I guess they're fishermen, but they didn't,
like, come from money. Name 1.
Person. Who's come from money is like,
I'm going to be a fisherman, youknow?
Sorry my money, but I. Don't know even from the 1600s.
Times were fucked up back then. I don't know.
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People didn't make great choices.
So the money was welcomed by thepeople in town.
It brought jobs and merchant ships to Ipswich.
However, the question whispered in Taverns amongst the locals
was how did Andrew and Henry, Mayor fisherman, afford to make
such sizable investments? That's my question we're.
Going to find out. Lobster.
They're lobster fisherman. Yeah, lobster back in the 1600s
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was like, kind of. That was like the.
Poor man's food. Well, fuck that.
Yeah, they were considered like the like a rodent of the sea.
Let's. Find out I.
Guess we're going to find out. We're going to find out.
So Andrew eventually ended his business partnership with Harry
and found a new partner, a wealthy ship owner by the name
of Francis Wainwright. Andrew became a wealthy and well
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established businessman in Ipswich.
Harry, who was cut out of the business, was broke again and he
went back to fishing. Wait, wait, wait.
What? Brooks?
That means one of them clearly has all the money.
I think Andrew fucked them, Yeah, Andrew fucked them over on
the entire business and he endedup getting nothing out of the
whole deal. Damn, so whatever it is that
they're doing, Henry can't continue or do other connections
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like he can't continue doing whatever it is that they were
doing together. Yeah.
I think Andrew just kind of screwed him out of the entire
business. And I don't know what that looks
like, but. You know what they were doing.
Oh, I'm not telling you until the end.
Oh, God. So he was back to fishing, but
he was also rumored to scavenge shipwrecks.
Now this was not an uncommon practice at the time.
People would go out to shipwrecks that wrecked on the
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rocks of the sandbar and salvagewhat they could and then sell
the cargo they collected. This line of work was known as
being a wrecker. Records could bring in some
money if they found the right ship, but it was not nearly as
prominent a job as his previous title of Wharf owner or
landlord. It was considered by many to be
one step above a common thief. So Andrew seen the fuck Henry
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over at the business dealer. Henry fell on really hard times.
Henry made poor and lower class for the rest of his life.
At one point he had to rent A room from his old business
partner in the Ship Wharf area. Oh, he made him pay for the room
after he fucked him over. Yeah.
Could you imagine Henry sitting in this poorly kept one room
rental and house that he used toown overlooking a Wharf he used
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to own? That kind of ego hit that kind
of defeat in life. It kind of make a man desperate.
Does he kill him? You going to find out.
It definitely wasn't fishing it.Definitely was not fishing.
Didn't get their money fishing. In fact, from lobsters.
In fact, this desperation was a fact that was later used in his
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trial when trying to show a jurythe motive for his horrific
crimes. Crimes are also plural, yeah.
Yeah, lots of crimes. He kills Andrew.
I mean, I would too. Yeah, yeah, fuck he deserves it.
Fuck you and. Probably deserves it.
We're so bad we haven't even figured out like what like has
happened. Like the whole story.
We're already like, fuck you, Andrew.
I mean, if you think back to theWitch of Salem, I, we totally
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called that one from the beginning.
Yeah, no, we didn't. We got that completely fucking
wrong. Yeah, I also remember the
gentleman robbers. Shut up.
I know what happened. Oh, shit.
I had no idea what happened. Yeah, that's true.
So Harry was accused by the Ipswich courts of not just being
a wrecker, but causing the wrecks.
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He was accused of going out to asandbar roughly 1/2 mile off of
Plum Island late at night and lighting fires.
A ship navigating the tricky waters would mistake the fires
for a lighthouse or some light coming from land and steer the
ships into the shallows of the sandbar.
Once the unexpected ship correct, Harry would climb on
board, pistol in hand, sword drawn, and he would finish off
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the survivors on the ship. Holy fuck he is a bad.
Man loot the wreck and then throw the bodies overboard to be
washed out to sea. Looting the boat that was
wrecked and abandoned was frowned upon but legal.
However, causing the wreck and then killing off the survivors
was a crime punishable by death.Harry was also accused in court
of walking a few donkeys with lanterns attached to the necks
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with ropes and down the sandbar late at night.
Now from a merchant ship trying to find land, these lights would
look like boats bobbing up and down in the water.
The ship would then steer towards the lights and wreck on
the sandbar about a half a mile from their actual destination.
It's actually. Genius.
Yeah, Harry would then climb on board and finish off with the
sandbar, didn't, and loot the ship.
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How many men are on a ship though?
But that's a good question, right?
Because I'm picturing like, you know, 10 to 12 people and yeah,
he's going on and killing all ofthem.
He must have been really strong.Or a good shot.
Oh, do they have guns back? Then I mean, it's 1600s yeah,
but I think single shots, right?Not like he could reload they.
Have like the little like round bullets.
Yeah, he wasn't like John Wick going in and dropping an entire
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clip. Wicks bad all right movie idea.
John Wick in the 1600s. So at trial, they claimed that
these methods were used successfully over a dozen times.
However, Harry and his defense had nothing of real value to
show. For all his apparent success as
his day as a pirate, he offered up this meek existence as
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defense, asking the jury if he was so successful as a pirate as
he was being accused of, then why was he living so poorly?
He went as far as to use the prosecution's line.
He had to rent A room from his old business partner in a
building he used to own, overlooking a Wharf he used to
own as proof of his poverty and then his innocence.
So the court, for one reason or another, wasn't buying it.
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Harry was sentenced to be chained to a stake at the Plum
Island sandbar, doomed to shovelSam for eternity, or at least
until he died of dehydration or drowning in a storm.
Palm Island in Newburyport. Yeah, Sandbar just off of Palm
Island. It's actually a long engaged,
yes, that's part of it. And the other part of it, the
other sudden end of it, is in Ipswich.
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Hold up, what? But that that's how they used to
do justice back in the day. That that was justice.
That was, that's like the sixth layer of hell.
That's some evil shit. They're just like, yeah, I was
going to stake you to the groundand I'll figure it out.
They chained him to a stake, Yes, and he had a shovel.
Sand. Well, that's what was said in
the court orders, going to shovel sand for eternity, but
they were really just waiting for him to around or die of
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dehydration, whichever one came first.
Could you imagine if he lived like years?
Shoveling sand. Like I'm just shoveling sand and
eating raw fish. Go without water, because that's
basically how long he's got, yeah.
In the salty air. The salty air and the song.
You can dehydrate quick. Yeah, maybe a week if he's
lucky, but that's gonna be a long, painful death.
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And I gave him a shovel. I'm so confused by the.
Shoveling sand. I don't.
Think he was actually shoveling sand it.
Was someone was there watching him?
It was poetic justice, yeah. I don't understand it.
The 1600s of courts were more poetic.
Right, Yes, he's like analogies they don't make.
Sense Shovel. So whether he was staked to the
ground or not, if he was chained, he can't swim.
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He's on this little Sam that goes underwater.
High tide. Yeah, he's fucked.
But he's got a shovel. So from the court's point of
view, this was a fitting sentence considering the amount
of innocent merchants he was accused of killing, then leaving
to the ocean to wash away the evidence.
His sentence was carried out. He was chained to a stake at the
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sandbar. 1/2 mile for sure, and left to die.
Locals to this day save the windhowling during a storm.
The devil is rising, old Harry or Harry.
Maine is grumbling at his work today.
OK, I don't. I don't know if locals in
Ipswich still say this, I'm not sure but I read somewhere I'm
leaving them because it's so fucking good.
It is so good. Yeah.
I feel like we need to go to Ipswich on a stormy day.
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They just yell it in the streets.
If I'm ever in the gas station at Ipswich one day and the
wind's blowing outside and the cashier looks up to me and says
are the devil's raising old Harry, I'll be so fucking happy.
I might cry how happy I am. We're going to a bar in Ipswich.
Give me a new Ipswich IPA. The devil's our eyes in old
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Harry. That would make a great IPA,
Yeah. Or an Ipswich.
The devil's Raising Harry, yeah?Create a beer.
I think we did. Fuck yeah.
Oh, is that credit for that? Is that what we're going to
sell? As merchandising.
As merchandise. Yeah, first we got to get
famous, then we got to get a beer company to sponsor.
Just saying I'm always looking for.
Make an IPA. I think we could sell Ipas named
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after. Stories, coffee and Ipas.
Yeah, I'm down. South Harry died on the sandbar
that day. Poor Harry.
Remember, Harry died poor, so ifthe loot existed, he never
cashed it in. If any loot was stolen from
these merchant ships that Harry tricked into wrecking, the
loot's location died with Harry on the sandbar.
This, however, did not stop locals from looking.
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The then abandoned property at 32 Water St. was ransacked and
searched late night by candlelight out of the view of
neighbors in the law on several occasions.
Fuck yes. Now this is what I'm about man.
We're going on a fucking treasure hunt.
We are ransacking this how we'refinding this fucking map and
we're in the fucking streets. Are you in?
Are you in? A series of random holes were
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dug up on the property for months after the trial, more and
more showing up in the morning light from unnamed treasure
hunters who used the cover of night to cloak their identity.
One story of this ongoing treasure hunt is just so fucking
good. I mean, it is weirder after
dark. Tailor made.
Fuck yeah, let's go national treasure shit.
So this is of a man, man who dreamed for three successive
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nights about the location of thetreasure.
Convinced his dream was a divinepremonition under the cover of
night, he set out with a shovel in hand to find the area in the
woods that came to him in his dream.
Under the pale moonlight. Walking through the woods near
town, he recognized the spot from his dream.
He quickly began digging. A few feet down he found an iron
bar next to a large Flat Rock. Convinced an Angel or spirit
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guide of some kind that came to him in his dream to lead him to
this fortune, he fell to his knees and began to pray.
But as he began to pray, dozens of Black Cats began to circle
him, hissing and swiping out hislegs.
What the? Fuck yeah.
What? The fuck is right now?
Afraid that it was not an Angel,but rather a demon who came to
him in the dream, he grabbed thethe shovel, started swinging it
wildly at the demonic cats. The cats disappeared almost like
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ghosts, just as suddenly as theyhad appeared.
He went back to digging, but nowthe hole is filling it with icy
cold water. What?
He tried to bail the water out with his shovel and then with
his hands, but the water kept rising.
The man, terrified he had summoned something evil, grabbed
the iron bar he had found in thehole and ran home.
He refused to tell anybody of the location of the hidden
treasure and fear their demonic presence that had lured him into
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the woods could corrupt somebodyelse.
What was the metal bar? Ah.
He later turned the iron bar into a door latch and sold it to
an undisclosed family building anew house in town.
Storytellers and local historians are still trying to
track down this latch to add to or disprove the story as told.
Now for me, I don't need to knowif the story is true or not, I
just know I want it to be true. That is so cool.
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That is a wild story. Yeah, but a latch, huh?
Yeah, so then a random latch somewhere on a historical house
in town that belongs to the story.
That's pretty cool. So he thinks it's demonic
because like all this weird shithappens and then he's just like,
I'm just going to turn it into adoor latch and then just sell it
to some family. Imagine if you really didn't
like that family though, Cathy. Oh yeah.
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You should be like, yo, take these demonics.
I got you a gift. House warming.
No. Opted for life.
Welcome to our little. Village.
So this next part's actually a little bit weirder.
OK, so after Harry's death, the property at 32 Water St. changed
hands a lot. A series of renters and owners
of the property seemed to end infinancial ruins.
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The property was foreclosed on or evicted renters so often that
the local started to believe it was cursed by Harry Main.
In fact, at one point nobody dare rent or buy the property,
and for years it was left vacantand in ruins.
To intervene and end this curse,in 1934, the ministers in
priests from town and neighboring towns assembled the
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house and prayed for an entire day.
Apparently, this worked. After the prayerful
intervention, the House stopped causing financial ruin that.
Bullshit. I'm sorry.
So this part of the story was recorded in local papers and is
true. I personally don't care if it
was true, I was putting it in either way because it's so
fucking good. But as it turns out, that shit
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actually happened. That's like your darkest day.
Everyone stopped what they were doing and just went and prayed.
Yeah, well, it worked. Guess that's what you do back
then when you don't know what todo.
We just. Pray I'm going to go Max out my
credit cards and say a couple Amen.
And then? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how
it works. Yeah, yeah.
I'll let you know how that worksout.
I hope you have an extra bedroom.
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So the house was eventually torndown, some say in fear of the
curse returning. Some say due to it being in such
disrepair just wasn't worth rehabbing.
So the day of prayer seemed to end the hearse of Harry Maine.
However, this is not the end of the story.
Residents of Plum Island claimedthat the ghost of Harry Maine
returned to Plum Island to look for his body.
There are claims of sightings ofa ghost of a man walking the
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shoreline looking for his body washed up right after a bad
storm. Locals also claimed at times you
can hear the painful cries mixedin with the howling wind during
late night summer storms. So his legend continues to move.
You know what I just realized? Hairy mane.
Terrible name. His parents ate him.
He'd had zero body hair. He just got haggled his whole
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life did. He have long like hair.
I hope so. I hope so.
Yeah, hairy mane. So I want to throw my personal
theory in because I didn't read this or find this, but it makes
so much sense to me. Andrew Diamond.
He was not just the shrewd and stand up businessman he claimed
to be. Andrew and Harry were just local
poor fishermen trying to make a living selling the daily catch.
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Then they were somehow able to buy a Wharf in property in town
and suddenly become some of the richest men in town.
Misleads me to believe Andrew could have been a partner in
causing the shipwrecks murder and selling the cargo.
You know this never really felt like a one man job to me right?
First you got to go kill everybody, then you got to dump
their bodies and load the cargo means.
Something so much work. So much work, so much easier on
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the partner. So Andrew after breaking off the
business partnership and Harry knowing the secret to where they
got their startup money from, then uses influence in town to
make Harry the fall guy in the shared capital crimes pushing
the trial conviction an execution of Harry made.
Harry started to do it on his own.
Andrew. Andrew saw a chance to get out
from underneath it. And set up Harry to get caught.
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That's my theory. Makes sense?
So are there any historical documents to back this story up?
Not too many, but that kind of makes sense as we delve into
them. I have another theory.
Sure, they could have just prayed for a lot of money.
No, it does get rid of ghosts. And demons.
I don't know if it makes money, just a bit.
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So. It's so weird because I have
prayed for my bank account to get fatter.
Yeah, it didn't. It didn't.
It's weird. It's weird.
God's not listening. Try again.
Yeah. So in the historical references,
there's a lot of different references to Andrew Diamond and
his businesses and his history in the town, but there are very
few records of Harry Main. Harry's name was not attached to
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any of Andrew's businesses, nor is his file found in any
historical records. This being said, a fire in
Ipswich in 1894 completely destroyed Central St. and the
surrounding buildings. This included the town's court,
so the records of the trial likely would have been destroyed
in the fire and lost forever. Also, if Andrew was planning to
screw Harry out of his end of the business, he might not have
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put his name on any of the paperwork.
He could have just said like, ohit's easier if it's only one
name on the. Yeah, I don't know if Harry
could even read. I mean, back in the 1600s, a lot
of fishermen couldn't read well.So if Andrew could read, I would
leave him in charge of all the paperwork.
Not only that, like it's so easyback in those days because there
are no electronic records to just change your name or, you
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know, read a fake document. Oh, my God, it's gone.
Look at this new stuff happens alot in the Ath homes, stuff that
we're gonna talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So adding credence to the story,though, archives do show the
sale of a property of a house, OnStar Island in the Isles of
Shoals to Andrew Diamond and Harry Maine.
So we can say that Harry was a real person and was connected to
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Andrew Diamond at one point. There is also a coroner's log
from the Funeral Home in Exeter,NH, listing 16 men in 1686 with
the cause of death of drowning. Harry Maine Senior, possibly the
dad of Harry, was one of the menlisted on the Ledger.
It goes on to say Harry Senior, survived by his wife and son,
Harry Maine Junior. That seems like too much of a
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coincidence. Yes, seeming to confirm that he
was from this area now. The last name in the Corners
report was spelled MAIN and on the sale of the house on Star
Island it was spelled Maine likethe state, and didn't have the
prefects of Junior. However, I could see names being
misspelled in the 1600s as not being caught or mattering that
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much. That happened a lot because a
lot of people, like you were saying earlier about Harry not
being able to read, Yeah, like alot of people, they just spelt
it as it sounded like what they thought or they had seen it
before, so. Yeah, and remember, Harry's a
fisherman, not a lawyer, so yeah, this could go unnoticed.
Yeah, yeah. Not only that, right.
You walk up to a counter and they're like, what's your name?
Harry Mane. You write it down to what I
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write it down. You don't have ID.
You don't need show ID. So just like so many other
legends and stories from our NewEngland roots, we're left with
more questions and answers. Did Harry cause ship the wreck
and then loot them off of Plum Island?
Was he sentenced to shovel sand for eternity?
No, because he didn't give him ashovel.
Does this curse or ghost continue to haunt us?
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Did Andrew set Harry up as a fall guy?
We might never know. But if you're on Palmer Island
during a storm and the wind comes off the ocean sounding
like the tortured cries of a man, maybe you're hearing Harry
Mane carrying out his sentence and shoveling sand for eternity.
So this is one of the darkest, most twisted stories I have
shared with you guys. I don't know if I agree with
that. No, no, I don't know if this is
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your darkest one. The fucking forest one.
Oh, the dark entry forest. Yeah, that one was dark.
But I I feel bad for this guy, right?
He sounds like he was screwed over and you shut up.
Can you feel bad for someone whoshipwrecked 12 ships and
murdered everyone on it? Like can you feel bad?
I don't know. I don't know it's he got
screwed. No.
That was an interesting story though, and I love that there's
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some documentation to prove that, like it's likely true to
like, he said. Parts of it, you know, it seemed
like Andrew and Harry were actual people that did in fact
go to Ipswich and have a historythere.
I was talking about the demons and the Black Cats.
Well, the demons that parts, definitely.
Definitely. So real.
I really think that if we ever find ourselves an Ipswich, we
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have to do that whole yell out about the devil come for old
Harry and we gotta go to every knocker on everyone's door.
Would you get this? Yeah.
We need to do a New England weirder after dark road trip.
We need to put together, literally map it out and have
our stories pinpoint to like thelocations and drive out to them
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and. Oh, you want to send listeners
on a road trip? Yeah.
But also I think like, us too should do it too.
Yeah. And then like, talk about it.
All right, we bury some treasure.
We make a map book. Like that book?
You know the book I'm talking about.
Yeah. I can't think of the.
Name. I can't think of the name and
one of the pieces where one of the jewels was found in Boston.
Yeah. I know what you're talking.
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About, oh, this is so bad that we can't remember that it's so
good. Yeah, that book.
We all know the book. I literally have it in the
basement. Somebody have the Google
machine? The Google machine get.
This on Josh Gates. Yeah, I know the cover's like a
womany witch thing, like holdingsomething in her hands.
Yeah, I just, I can envision it.The secret?
A treasure hunt? Yes, by Brian Recess.
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The fact we couldn't get a secret.
And a treasure hunt, yeah. There's three of us.
Yeah, that's embarrassing. But instead of making, like,
complex pictures, though, yeah, it's just like a treasure hunt.
That's a map of our stories. And there's some couple clue
system. And I find the haunted door
latch in English. So we've got listeners driving
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all over New England, taking pictures and sending them to us.
Yeah, like they can post it on Instagram.
What are we going to do for themfor doing this service?
No, they get to post it on Instagram and be like, hey.
Also, they're just going to do it just to do it.
Fuck yeah if I had. Like like a free sweatshirt or.
I would just do it just. We don't, we don't have schwag,
right y'all? But one day, one day in the
future, we're gonna make this come around.
I would. Do it if I had like a what is it
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like mile higher? Like I mean, they're out in
Where the fuck are they from? They are from Colorado.
Colorado. Thank you.
It's a secret. Yeah, But yeah, if they like if
they were closer, if they had something like that'd be fun.
Like you take like a day. All of our stuff's in New
England. Nothing's more than a day's
drive away. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You could go to Maine and hit two or three places.
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Vermont hit two or three. Or you do like a weekend and you
stay at one of these haunted Inns or haunted houses, places
to get some serious business marketing going on.
I. Think we have like 30 something
episodes. First person to send us a
picture from all 30 places gets to say they win.
You're going to own 5% of Chris's company, Peter, after
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Derek. I'm just saying this might be a
good might be a good marketing idea.
The. First person that does is one
day gets 50% of what we made so far.
Yes, as of today, yeah. So they they are two also in the
hole. You owe us.
Some podcasting equipment. And.
They get some of our debt. Thank you.
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Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Thanks for.
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Ipswich, Massachusetts in the mid 1600s was the backdrop of
the darkest story I have ever shared with you guys.
Betrayal, murder, a treasure hunt, a cursed house, demons,
angels, a restless ghosts all come together to tell this tale.
So jump in the car. We're going on a road trip.
We're going down route one to Route 133 and then back in time
to explore Ipswich and the curseof Harry Mane.
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I'm Chris. I'm Kathy.
I'm Sean. And this is weirder after dark.
Darkest story you've ever told us?
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Chris told us a lot of weird shit, bro.
Yeah, no, this one gets pretty dark.
Darker than dark entry forest. That was pretty fucked up.
Creatures in the woods suicides.It's close, Yeah.
I don't know this this one mightbe a little more fucked up.
I. Don't know.
I like dark stories. And this one is probably mostly
true. Oh, or at least parts of it.
OK, I don't know if we're mentally ready for that.
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Yeah. Darkest story ever.
Friday evening when we're a little sleepy.
Yeah. Little little sleepy, It's been
a long week. We're about to wake the fuck up.
It's going to scare the shit outof us.
Guys been to Ipswich, MA. I think we have.
I know you have. Yeah.
You ever been shown? I don't know.
I don't. I'm not sure it's it wasn't
memorable. If I have, sorry Ipswich, we
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love you. It kind of looks like time
itself stopped centuries ago. It's got plenty of historical
buildings, cobblestone roads or sidewalks, fishing boats more
than the harbour, so it's a quintessential New England
coastal town. You can stop and get some of
their famous fried clams and yearly they have a chowder
festival which cool. Have y'all, but y'all like New
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England Chowder? Are you chowder people?
I'm not. Eating.
No, it's just gross, like the texture of the whole experience.
It's just not OK. Born and raised in New England.
Do not get clam shatter. Don't get it, sorry.
I used to deliver to a lot of restaurants in Ipswich when I
worked in Haverhill at Lionel Valleys and a bunch of different
restaurants so it was one place to clam box and it was all out
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of state license plates and sometimes it would take hours in
line to get some shitty fried clams.
I highly recommend you don't go.How come?
They're always called like Clam Haven, Clam Box.
They sell clams. All right, got her.
Got her. I am not awakened.
That's Damon. So Ipswich was founded in 1634,
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so it has as much history as you're going to find anywhere in
the United States today. I want to tell you guys about
one of its darkest tales. So one day in 1671, a man by the
name of Henry Maine and his friend Andrew Diamond landed
their boat in Ipswich Harbour. They claimed they were fishermen
from the Isles of Shoals, a small group of islands from
about 6 miles off the coast of New Hampshire.
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Sean, you had an episode about what he knows.
Yeah, a lot of stuff is going ondown over there A.
Lot of crazy shit going on the Isles of Shoals back in the day.
Yeah. So they decided they were going
to move to Ipswich and they bought a four bedroom house at
32 Water St. in cash. Now, while Water St. was not the
most prominent neighborhood in Ipswich at the time for those
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two quote UN quote fishermen to be able to buy a house cash, it
raised some eyebrows. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What are they doing? They bootlegging some.
Some liquor? What the Hell's going?
On Oh, we'll get into that. There's all kinds of dark shit
going on in the story. The two men continued to claim
to fish off the Isles of Shoal and while earning A respectable
living, by no means should have been able to get rich off of
selling the daily catch. This being said, Andrew and
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Henry over the next few years bought a Wharf in Ipswich and
rented the boat slips and sold supplies to locals fishermen.
A whole fucking Wharf. A whole Wharf.
Where they making their money from?
Yeah, they're doing something sketch.
Yeah, they're doing something that you're supposed to be
doing. Oh, take your guess.
What are they doing? I'm going to say selling people.
Oh, that's dark. Yeah, so I was trying to think
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like, what's like super dark andfucked up?
I think they're hitman. They're on the aisle of shows.
People go out fishing and they push them to the ocean dead.
One of us is right, right? No, no.
Continue on. So they also bought rental
properties across the Ipswich area.
Then they built a second Wharf catering to large merchant
ships. Over time, they also bought a
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fleet of merchant ships, so for two fishermen, they made some
very sizable investments. And they didn't have, like they
didn't, I mean, I guess they're fishermen, but they didn't,
like, come from money. Name 1.
Person. Who's come from money is like,
I'm going to be a fisherman, youknow?
Sorry my money, but I. Don't know even from the 1600s.
Times were fucked up back then. I don't know.
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People didn't make great choices.
So the money was welcomed by thepeople in town.
It brought jobs and merchant ships to Ipswich.
However, the question whispered in Taverns amongst the locals
was how did Andrew and Henry, Mayor fisherman, afford to make
such sizable investments? That's my question we're.
Going to find out. Lobster.
They're lobster fisherman. Yeah, lobster back in the 1600s
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was like, kind of. That was like the.
Poor man's food. Well, fuck that.
Yeah, they were considered like the like a rodent of the sea.
Let's. Find out I.
Guess we're going to find out. We're going to find out.
So Andrew eventually ended his business partnership with Harry
and found a new partner, a wealthy ship owner by the name
of Francis Wainwright. Andrew became a wealthy and well
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established businessman in Ipswich.
Harry, who was cut out of the business, was broke again and he
went back to fishing. Wait, wait, wait.
What? Brooks?
That means one of them clearly has all the money.
I think Andrew fucked them, Yeah, Andrew fucked them over on
the entire business and he endedup getting nothing out of the
whole deal. Damn, so whatever it is that
they're doing, Henry can't continue or do other connections
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like he can't continue doing whatever it is that they were
doing together. Yeah.
I think Andrew just kind of screwed him out of the entire
business. And I don't know what that looks
like, but. You know what they were doing.
Oh, I'm not telling you until the end.
Oh, God. So he was back to fishing, but
he was also rumored to scavenge shipwrecks.
Now this was not an uncommon practice at the time.
People would go out to shipwrecks that wrecked on the
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rocks of the sandbar and salvagewhat they could and then sell
the cargo they collected. This line of work was known as
being a wrecker. Records could bring in some
money if they found the right ship, but it was not nearly as
prominent a job as his previous title of Wharf owner or
landlord. It was considered by many to be
one step above a common thief. So Andrew seen the fuck Henry
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over at the business dealer. Henry fell on really hard times.
Henry made poor and lower class for the rest of his life.
At one point he had to rent A room from his old business
partner in the Ship Wharf area. Oh, he made him pay for the room
after he fucked him over. Yeah.
Could you imagine Henry sitting in this poorly kept one room
rental and house that he used toown overlooking a Wharf he used
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to own? That kind of ego hit that kind
of defeat in life. It kind of make a man desperate.
Does he kill him? You going to find out.
It definitely wasn't fishing it.Definitely was not fishing.
Didn't get their money fishing. In fact, from lobsters.
In fact, this desperation was a fact that was later used in his
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trial when trying to show a jurythe motive for his horrific
crimes. Crimes are also plural, yeah.
Yeah, lots of crimes. He kills Andrew.
I mean, I would too. Yeah, yeah, fuck he deserves it.
Fuck you and. Probably deserves it.
We're so bad we haven't even figured out like what like has
happened. Like the whole story.
We're already like, fuck you, Andrew.
I mean, if you think back to theWitch of Salem, I, we totally
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called that one from the beginning.
Yeah, no, we didn't. We got that completely fucking
wrong. Yeah, I also remember the
gentleman robbers. Shut up.
I know what happened. Oh, shit.
I had no idea what happened. Yeah, that's true.
So Harry was accused by the Ipswich courts of not just being
a wrecker, but causing the wrecks.
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He was accused of going out to asandbar roughly 1/2 mile off of
Plum Island late at night and lighting fires.
A ship navigating the tricky waters would mistake the fires
for a lighthouse or some light coming from land and steer the
ships into the shallows of the sandbar.
Once the unexpected ship correct, Harry would climb on
board, pistol in hand, sword drawn, and he would finish off
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the survivors on the ship. Holy fuck he is a bad.
Man loot the wreck and then throw the bodies overboard to be
washed out to sea. Looting the boat that was
wrecked and abandoned was frowned upon but legal.
However, causing the wreck and then killing off the survivors
was a crime punishable by death.Harry was also accused in court
of walking a few donkeys with lanterns attached to the necks
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with ropes and down the sandbar late at night.
Now from a merchant ship trying to find land, these lights would
look like boats bobbing up and down in the water.
The ship would then steer towards the lights and wreck on
the sandbar about a half a mile from their actual destination.
It's actually. Genius.
Yeah, Harry would then climb on board and finish off with the
sandbar, didn't, and loot the ship.
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How many men are on a ship though?
But that's a good question, right?
Because I'm picturing like, you know, 10 to 12 people and yeah,
he's going on and killing all ofthem.
He must have been really strong.Or a good shot.
Oh, do they have guns back? Then I mean, it's 1600s yeah,
but I think single shots, right?Not like he could reload they.
Have like the little like round bullets.
Yeah, he wasn't like John Wick going in and dropping an entire
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clip. Wicks bad all right movie idea.
John Wick in the 1600s. So at trial, they claimed that
these methods were used successfully over a dozen times.
However, Harry and his defense had nothing of real value to
show. For all his apparent success as
his day as a pirate, he offered up this meek existence as
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defense, asking the jury if he was so successful as a pirate as
he was being accused of, then why was he living so poorly?
He went as far as to use the prosecution's line.
He had to rent A room from his old business partner in a
building he used to own, overlooking a Wharf he used to
own as proof of his poverty and then his innocence.
So the court, for one reason or another, wasn't buying it.
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Harry was sentenced to be chained to a stake at the Plum
Island sandbar, doomed to shovelSam for eternity, or at least
until he died of dehydration or drowning in a storm.
Palm Island in Newburyport. Yeah, Sandbar just off of Palm
Island. It's actually a long engaged,
yes, that's part of it. And the other part of it, the
other sudden end of it, is in Ipswich.
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Hold up, what? But that that's how they used to
do justice back in the day. That that was justice.
That was, that's like the sixth layer of hell.
That's some evil shit. They're just like, yeah, I was
going to stake you to the groundand I'll figure it out.
They chained him to a stake, Yes, and he had a shovel.
Sand. Well, that's what was said in
the court orders, going to shovel sand for eternity, but
they were really just waiting for him to around or die of
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dehydration, whichever one came first.
Could you imagine if he lived like years?
Shoveling sand. Like I'm just shoveling sand and
eating raw fish. Go without water, because that's
basically how long he's got, yeah.
In the salty air. The salty air and the song.
You can dehydrate quick. Yeah, maybe a week if he's
lucky, but that's gonna be a long, painful death.
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And I gave him a shovel. I'm so confused by the.
Shoveling sand. I don't.
Think he was actually shoveling sand it.
Was someone was there watching him?
It was poetic justice, yeah. I don't understand it.
The 1600s of courts were more poetic.
Right, Yes, he's like analogies they don't make.
Sense Shovel. So whether he was staked to the
ground or not, if he was chained, he can't swim.
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He's on this little Sam that goes underwater.
High tide. Yeah, he's fucked.
But he's got a shovel. So from the court's point of
view, this was a fitting sentence considering the amount
of innocent merchants he was accused of killing, then leaving
to the ocean to wash away the evidence.
His sentence was carried out. He was chained to a stake at the
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sandbar. 1/2 mile for sure, and left to die.
Locals to this day save the windhowling during a storm.
The devil is rising, old Harry or Harry.
Maine is grumbling at his work today.
OK, I don't. I don't know if locals in
Ipswich still say this, I'm not sure but I read somewhere I'm
leaving them because it's so fucking good.
It is so good. Yeah.
I feel like we need to go to Ipswich on a stormy day.
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They just yell it in the streets.
If I'm ever in the gas station at Ipswich one day and the
wind's blowing outside and the cashier looks up to me and says
are the devil's raising old Harry, I'll be so fucking happy.
I might cry how happy I am. We're going to a bar in Ipswich.
Give me a new Ipswich IPA. The devil's our eyes in old
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Harry. That would make a great IPA,
Yeah. Or an Ipswich.
The devil's Raising Harry, yeah?Create a beer.
I think we did. Fuck yeah.
Oh, is that credit for that? Is that what we're going to
sell? As merchandising.
As merchandise. Yeah, first we got to get
famous, then we got to get a beer company to sponsor.
Just saying I'm always looking for.
Make an IPA. I think we could sell Ipas named
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after. Stories, coffee and Ipas.
Yeah, I'm down. South Harry died on the sandbar
that day. Poor Harry.
Remember, Harry died poor, so ifthe loot existed, he never
cashed it in. If any loot was stolen from
these merchant ships that Harry tricked into wrecking, the
loot's location died with Harry on the sandbar.
This, however, did not stop locals from looking.
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The then abandoned property at 32 Water St. was ransacked and
searched late night by candlelight out of the view of
neighbors in the law on several occasions.
Fuck yes. Now this is what I'm about man.
We're going on a fucking treasure hunt.
We are ransacking this how we'refinding this fucking map and
we're in the fucking streets. Are you in?
Are you in? A series of random holes were
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dug up on the property for months after the trial, more and
more showing up in the morning light from unnamed treasure
hunters who used the cover of night to cloak their identity.
One story of this ongoing treasure hunt is just so fucking
good. I mean, it is weirder after
dark. Tailor made.
Fuck yeah, let's go national treasure shit.
So this is of a man, man who dreamed for three successive
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nights about the location of thetreasure.
Convinced his dream was a divinepremonition under the cover of
night, he set out with a shovel in hand to find the area in the
woods that came to him in his dream.
Under the pale moonlight. Walking through the woods near
town, he recognized the spot from his dream.
He quickly began digging. A few feet down he found an iron
bar next to a large Flat Rock. Convinced an Angel or spirit
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guide of some kind that came to him in his dream to lead him to
this fortune, he fell to his knees and began to pray.
But as he began to pray, dozens of Black Cats began to circle
him, hissing and swiping out hislegs.
What the? Fuck yeah.
What? The fuck is right now?
Afraid that it was not an Angel,but rather a demon who came to
him in the dream, he grabbed thethe shovel, started swinging it
wildly at the demonic cats. The cats disappeared almost like
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ghosts, just as suddenly as theyhad appeared.
He went back to digging, but nowthe hole is filling it with icy
cold water. What?
He tried to bail the water out with his shovel and then with
his hands, but the water kept rising.
The man, terrified he had summoned something evil, grabbed
the iron bar he had found in thehole and ran home.
He refused to tell anybody of the location of the hidden
treasure and fear their demonic presence that had lured him into
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the woods could corrupt somebodyelse.
What was the metal bar? Ah.
He later turned the iron bar into a door latch and sold it to
an undisclosed family building anew house in town.
Storytellers and local historians are still trying to
track down this latch to add to or disprove the story as told.
Now for me, I don't need to knowif the story is true or not, I
just know I want it to be true. That is so cool.
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That is a wild story. Yeah, but a latch, huh?
Yeah, so then a random latch somewhere on a historical house
in town that belongs to the story.
That's pretty cool. So he thinks it's demonic
because like all this weird shithappens and then he's just like,
I'm just going to turn it into adoor latch and then just sell it
to some family. Imagine if you really didn't
like that family though, Cathy. Oh yeah.
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You should be like, yo, take these demonics.
I got you a gift. House warming.
No. Opted for life.
Welcome to our little. Village.
So this next part's actually a little bit weirder.
OK, so after Harry's death, the property at 32 Water St. changed
hands a lot. A series of renters and owners
of the property seemed to end infinancial ruins.
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The property was foreclosed on or evicted renters so often that
the local started to believe it was cursed by Harry Main.
In fact, at one point nobody dare rent or buy the property,
and for years it was left vacantand in ruins.
To intervene and end this curse,in 1934, the ministers in
priests from town and neighboring towns assembled the
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house and prayed for an entire day.
Apparently, this worked. After the prayerful
intervention, the House stopped causing financial ruin that.
Bullshit. I'm sorry.
So this part of the story was recorded in local papers and is
true. I personally don't care if it
was true, I was putting it in either way because it's so
fucking good. But as it turns out, that shit
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actually happened. That's like your darkest day.
Everyone stopped what they were doing and just went and prayed.
Yeah, well, it worked. Guess that's what you do back
then when you don't know what todo.
We just. Pray I'm going to go Max out my
credit cards and say a couple Amen.
And then? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how
it works. Yeah, yeah.
I'll let you know how that worksout.
I hope you have an extra bedroom.
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So the house was eventually torndown, some say in fear of the
curse returning. Some say due to it being in such
disrepair just wasn't worth rehabbing.
So the day of prayer seemed to end the hearse of Harry Maine.
However, this is not the end of the story.
Residents of Plum Island claimedthat the ghost of Harry Maine
returned to Plum Island to look for his body.
There are claims of sightings ofa ghost of a man walking the
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shoreline looking for his body washed up right after a bad
storm. Locals also claimed at times you
can hear the painful cries mixedin with the howling wind during
late night summer storms. So his legend continues to move.
You know what I just realized? Hairy mane.
Terrible name. His parents ate him.
He'd had zero body hair. He just got haggled his whole
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life did. He have long like hair.
I hope so. I hope so.
Yeah, hairy mane. So I want to throw my personal
theory in because I didn't read this or find this, but it makes
so much sense to me. Andrew Diamond.
He was not just the shrewd and stand up businessman he claimed
to be. Andrew and Harry were just local
poor fishermen trying to make a living selling the daily catch.
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Then they were somehow able to buy a Wharf in property in town
and suddenly become some of the richest men in town.
Misleads me to believe Andrew could have been a partner in
causing the shipwrecks murder and selling the cargo.
You know this never really felt like a one man job to me right?
First you got to go kill everybody, then you got to dump
their bodies and load the cargo means.
Something so much work. So much work, so much easier on
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the partner. So Andrew after breaking off the
business partnership and Harry knowing the secret to where they
got their startup money from, then uses influence in town to
make Harry the fall guy in the shared capital crimes pushing
the trial conviction an execution of Harry made.
Harry started to do it on his own.
Andrew. Andrew saw a chance to get out
from underneath it. And set up Harry to get caught.
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That's my theory. Makes sense?
So are there any historical documents to back this story up?
Not too many, but that kind of makes sense as we delve into
them. I have another theory.
Sure, they could have just prayed for a lot of money.
No, it does get rid of ghosts. And demons.
I don't know if it makes money, just a bit.
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So. It's so weird because I have
prayed for my bank account to get fatter.
Yeah, it didn't. It didn't.
It's weird. It's weird.
God's not listening. Try again.
Yeah. So in the historical references,
there's a lot of different references to Andrew Diamond and
his businesses and his history in the town, but there are very
few records of Harry Main. Harry's name was not attached to
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any of Andrew's businesses, nor is his file found in any
historical records. This being said, a fire in
Ipswich in 1894 completely destroyed Central St. and the
surrounding buildings. This included the town's court,
so the records of the trial likely would have been destroyed
in the fire and lost forever. Also, if Andrew was planning to
screw Harry out of his end of the business, he might not have
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put his name on any of the paperwork.
He could have just said like, ohit's easier if it's only one
name on the. Yeah, I don't know if Harry
could even read. I mean, back in the 1600s, a lot
of fishermen couldn't read well.So if Andrew could read, I would
leave him in charge of all the paperwork.
Not only that, like it's so easyback in those days because there
are no electronic records to just change your name or, you
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know, read a fake document. Oh, my God, it's gone.
Look at this new stuff happens alot in the Ath homes, stuff that
we're gonna talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So adding credence to the story,though, archives do show the
sale of a property of a house, OnStar Island in the Isles of
Shoals to Andrew Diamond and Harry Maine.
So we can say that Harry was a real person and was connected to
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Andrew Diamond at one point. There is also a coroner's log
from the Funeral Home in Exeter,NH, listing 16 men in 1686 with
the cause of death of drowning. Harry Maine Senior, possibly the
dad of Harry, was one of the menlisted on the Ledger.
It goes on to say Harry Senior, survived by his wife and son,
Harry Maine Junior. That seems like too much of a
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coincidence. Yes, seeming to confirm that he
was from this area now. The last name in the Corners
report was spelled MAIN and on the sale of the house on Star
Island it was spelled Maine likethe state, and didn't have the
prefects of Junior. However, I could see names being
misspelled in the 1600s as not being caught or mattering that
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much. That happened a lot because a
lot of people, like you were saying earlier about Harry not
being able to read, Yeah, like alot of people, they just spelt
it as it sounded like what they thought or they had seen it
before, so. Yeah, and remember, Harry's a
fisherman, not a lawyer, so yeah, this could go unnoticed.
Yeah, yeah. Not only that, right.
You walk up to a counter and they're like, what's your name?
Harry Mane. You write it down to what I
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write it down. You don't have ID.
You don't need show ID. So just like so many other
legends and stories from our NewEngland roots, we're left with
more questions and answers. Did Harry cause ship the wreck
and then loot them off of Plum Island?
Was he sentenced to shovel sand for eternity?
No, because he didn't give him ashovel.
Does this curse or ghost continue to haunt us?
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Did Andrew set Harry up as a fall guy?
We might never know. But if you're on Palmer Island
during a storm and the wind comes off the ocean sounding
like the tortured cries of a man, maybe you're hearing Harry
Mane carrying out his sentence and shoveling sand for eternity.
So this is one of the darkest, most twisted stories I have
shared with you guys. I don't know if I agree with
that. No, no, I don't know if this is
(22:35):
your darkest one. The fucking forest one.
Oh, the dark entry forest. Yeah, that one was dark.
But I I feel bad for this guy, right?
He sounds like he was screwed over and you shut up.
Can you feel bad for someone whoshipwrecked 12 ships and
murdered everyone on it? Like can you feel bad?
I don't know. I don't know it's he got
screwed. No.
That was an interesting story though, and I love that there's
(22:57):
some documentation to prove that, like it's likely true to
like, he said. Parts of it, you know, it seemed
like Andrew and Harry were actual people that did in fact
go to Ipswich and have a historythere.
I was talking about the demons and the Black Cats.
Well, the demons that parts, definitely.
Definitely. So real.
I really think that if we ever find ourselves an Ipswich, we
(23:18):
have to do that whole yell out about the devil come for old
Harry and we gotta go to every knocker on everyone's door.
Would you get this? Yeah.
We need to do a New England weirder after dark road trip.
We need to put together, literally map it out and have
our stories pinpoint to like thelocations and drive out to them
(23:39):
and. Oh, you want to send listeners
on a road trip? Yeah.
But also I think like, us too should do it too.
Yeah. And then like, talk about it.
All right, we bury some treasure.
We make a map book. Like that book?
You know the book I'm talking about.
Yeah. I can't think of the.
Name. I can't think of the name and
one of the pieces where one of the jewels was found in Boston.
Yeah. I know what you're talking.
(23:59):
About, oh, this is so bad that we can't remember that it's so
good. Yeah, that book.
We all know the book. I literally have it in the
basement. Somebody have the Google
machine? The Google machine get.
This on Josh Gates. Yeah, I know the cover's like a
womany witch thing, like holdingsomething in her hands.
Yeah, I just, I can envision it.The secret?
A treasure hunt? Yes, by Brian Recess.
(24:21):
The fact we couldn't get a secret.
And a treasure hunt, yeah. There's three of us.
Yeah, that's embarrassing. But instead of making, like,
complex pictures, though, yeah, it's just like a treasure hunt.
That's a map of our stories. And there's some couple clue
system. And I find the haunted door
latch in English. So we've got listeners driving
(24:45):
all over New England, taking pictures and sending them to us.
Yeah, like they can post it on Instagram.
What are we going to do for themfor doing this service?
No, they get to post it on Instagram and be like, hey.
Also, they're just going to do it just to do it.
Fuck yeah if I had. Like like a free sweatshirt or.
I would just do it just. We don't, we don't have schwag,
right y'all? But one day, one day in the
future, we're gonna make this come around.
I would. Do it if I had like a what is it
(25:05):
like mile higher? Like I mean, they're out in
Where the fuck are they from? They are from Colorado.
Colorado. Thank you.
It's a secret. Yeah, But yeah, if they like if
they were closer, if they had something like that'd be fun.
Like you take like a day. All of our stuff's in New
England. Nothing's more than a day's
drive away. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You could go to Maine and hit two or three places.
(25:28):
Vermont hit two or three. Or you do like a weekend and you
stay at one of these haunted Inns or haunted houses, places
to get some serious business marketing going on.
I. Think we have like 30 something
episodes. First person to send us a
picture from all 30 places gets to say they win.
You're going to own 5% of Chris's company, Peter, after
(25:52):
Derek. I'm just saying this might be a
good might be a good marketing idea.
The. First person that does is one
day gets 50% of what we made so far.
Yes, as of today, yeah. So they they are two also in the
hole. You owe us.
Some podcasting equipment. And.
They get some of our debt. Thank you.
(26:15):
Well, that was a cool story, Chris.
Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Thanks for.
Thanks for sharing. And gang, we hope you enjoyed it
as well, too. If you did, you know where
you're going. You're headed to Instagram
because we're going to go ahead and post some images there of
Chris's episode that are going to support some of the facts,
the details. There might be 13 black kittens,
I don't know. You'll check it out.
You tell me. A lot of pictures of the climb
box, yes. 19 climb box that sounds naughty.
(26:39):
It's such a bad. Name Yeah they didn't do well
there no, but don't forget it's not just Instagram.
You can also find us over on Reddit and on Facebook because
we're out here trying to build some community So if you're
looking to interact with us or other people like you or
enjoying this shit, make sure tocheck us out there.
And if you've ever benched the clam box, if you have a haunted
door latch, if you've got a shovel and you stood outside of
(27:02):
Plum Island and you dug for a couple weeks, we're looking for
your weird stories. So go ahead and you can send
that to the gang at weirderafterdark.com.
And remember, if you were likingthis shit, if you're absolutely
loving this shit, the best thingyou can do for us is to go ahead
with wherever you're listening. Drop a five star review if we're
deserving. And if we're not, we will, you
know, take down your ship and not like get in, kill everyone,
(27:22):
I guess. I don't know, just kidding.
We won't do that. But if you could leave a five
star review and a little commenttelling what you are enjoying
about this would mean the absolute world.
And don't forget, it always getsa little weirder after dark.
Bye. Thank you guys.
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