True Prosperity for High Performers: Redefining Success Beyond Financial Goals with Keveney Avila

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello wellness friends.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Wellness Inspired
Podcast, a place where you canfind inspiration, motivation and
empowerment in the pursuit of awellness lifestyle.
I'm your host, sherri Davidson.
I'm a wellness coach,acupuncturist, trail runner and
former interior designer inHouston, texas, and I am deeply
passionate about health andwellbeing.

(00:41):
And, as always, I'm here withmy co-host, finn, and if you're
new to the podcast, finn is myTerrier, mixed Rescue Dog, trail
runner and loyal companion.
He is also a therapy dog andgreeter at Element 5,
acupuncture and Wellness.
In this episode, I sit down withKeveni Avila, a former attorney
who traded courtroom wins forsoulful alignment.

(01:02):
After building a successfulcareer, keveny hit a breaking
point that led her to walk awayfrom the shoulds and follow
something deeper.
Now a prosperity mentor andspiritual director, she blends
ancient energy practices, modernscience and intuitive wisdom to
help high achievers redefinesuccess on their own terms.

(01:23):
In this episode, we'll explorethe wake-up call that shifted
everything, what prosperityreally means, and I'll give you
a little hint.
It's not just about money herP-suite mentorship and how it
helps ambitious minds findclarity, creativity and flow.
Also, we'll talk about howmastering your energy changes

(01:44):
everything from your health toyour relationships.
I'm excited to share thisconversation with you.
This one is for anyone ready totune out the noise and live
from a place of grounded purpose.
Let's dive in.

(02:05):
Hi Keveny, welcome to thepodcast again.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I'm glad to be here again.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
You know I went back and checked last time we talked
I said you were my secondepisode because you've been on
the podcast before and I wentback and checked you were my
first.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh fun.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
So my first episode, and it's been a while since I've
interviewed people and you'remy first person to start
interviewing again- Okay, well,there's a pattern here.
There's a pattern.
There's a pattern.
Well, I'd like to.
What's up?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
It's exciting.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It is exciting.
So thank you for coming back on.
You're a friend and I guess Imet you four years ago.
Five years ago, I think, I metyou in 2020.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Because I think it was BNI and I started that in
the beginning of 2020.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, 2020 was the BNI year.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, and then we shut down.
Well, I just want to give you abrief introduction.
You are a spiritual directorand animal communicator.
You are a mentor for highperformers who are outwardly
successful but quietly stuck.
Your work is rooted in clarity,energy and aligned prosperity.
Without the hustle or fluff,and with the upcoming launch of

(03:31):
your nine-month mentorshipprogram, the P-Suite, I think
this episode is a great space toexplore what real prosperity
looks like and why so manydriven people still feel like
there's something missing.
So if you'd like to introduceyourself, yeah, just tell people
who you are.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, so my background I practiced law for
10 years and I created a lot ofsuccess.
Outwardly, I had a greathusband, a great house, I had a
great job.
Internally, I was angry, I wasmiserable, I was a lot of things
that were not great and anincident with my dog happened

(04:12):
and I had sort of this mysticalexperience and I knew that I
needed to go back to what I knewas a kid, which was you know, I
say energy is my first language.
I remember seeing energy,moving energy before.
I remember walking, talking,and so I brought my dog home
from the vet against the orders.
I spent nine days playing withenergy.
She recovered miraculously andI left corporate.

(04:34):
And so for the last well, since2016, so for the last however
many years that is, nine yearsmaybe I have been doing
prosperity mentoring for highperformers who have created
success in their job or theircareer.
However, other things havebecome fractured, broken, so

(04:55):
they've sacrificed their health,their relationships, mental
health, physical health, theirfamily, and I also help
entrepreneurs who have a greatservice, have a great product,
but they need more clients orthey need to create a different
level of success and scale, andthere are some things holding
them back.
So I work with high performersto either create harmony in

(05:19):
their J-O-B and keep that J-O-B,or to kick the J-O-B and
monetize their passion.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, so how did you know in that moment?
So I know you had this mysticalexperience with your dog and
then how did you bridge that gapbetween that moment and then
knowing that you wanted to be amentor, like a spiritual mentor,
for high driven entrepreneurs?

Speaker 2 (05:48):
So it kind of happened for me.
I left corporate thinking I'mgoing to work with animals, I'm
going to do animal healing,energy healing.
What I learned was animals are?
They're just energetic sponges,they're like kiddos, right,
they take on our stuff.
And so I realized prettyquickly that people would come

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to me for their animals.
And when I started to work withthe humans, the animals
behavioral issues, physicalsickness, whatever it was
started to disappear, and so theanimals were sort of the
conduit into the healing withthe humans.
And then what happened was, youknow, I created more.
I mean, I was happier, I washealthier, I was in a much

(06:29):
better place, but I also createdmore money, success my first
year as an entrepreneur than Iever did in all of the various
corporate jobs I had, and so,you know, most of my friends
were attorneys, still areattorneys, and my husband's in
corporate finance.
So he had a lot of friends thatwere CPAs.
You know, most of my friendswere attorneys, still are
attorneys, and my husband's incorporate finance.
So he had a lot of friends thatwere CPAs you know, and people

(06:50):
who had MBAs, and so everyone inmy kind of inner circle started
asking wait a minute, you mademore money doing this thing you
do with animals that they allkind of laughed about than you
did working with us, right, andI said yes, and so they wanted
to know how.
So that's how it evolved intohelping other initial.
I mean, I have a lot ofattorney clients, but helping

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other professionals to figureout how, to teach them what I
learned on my journey and tohelp them live, like you
mentioned, true prosperity.
My last six months of corporate,when I knew I was going to be
transitioning.
At the months of corporate,when I knew I was going to be
transitioning at the end of theyear, I knew I was not going to
go back.
After the holidays I startedreading.
I mean, I've always been a nerdand read a lot, but I really I

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read, I started diving into allof the major religions, right,
all of the major prophets,whether you follow Jesus or
Krishna or Muhammad or Buddha,right or Vedanta philosophy or
ancient philosophy, there's agolden thread that weaves
through everything of the reallyhigh teachings.
And so I started to, you know,learn that and work to embody it

(07:58):
.
And I, you know, I did aretreat in Santa Fe with some
shamans and I went to a yogaretreat for two weeks in Costa
Rica and I just startedsearching the globe for the
highest teachings on prosperity,on, you know, how to live a
full, prosperous, abundant lifeand happy life.
And you know, I've always, inlaw school, I worked at a think

(08:23):
tank on the Newport Navy base inRhode Island and I studied peak
performance.
So how do you, if you have anelite team like the SEALs, how
do you drop them into flow ifthey aren't?
You know marching or doingsomething for a long time.
So I mean, I was 20 years ago,I was studying, you know,
everything from microdosing,psychedelics to marching, to,

(08:44):
you know, going to Burning manall of the things to drop you
into flow.
And so I've always been geekingout on that.
Research and then universal lawhas always been a passion, so
kind of weaving all of thosethings together which brings us
to the P-suite.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, yeah Sounds like a great awesome evolution.
It sounds like it started withburnout evolution.
It sounds like it started withburnout and then you had the
mystical experience with yourdog and then you made the
decision to get out and doanimal communication, but then
you realized really quickly thatif you worked on the humans,
that that process was a loteasier and you had a bigger,

(09:20):
better results with the animals.
Is that, is that what I heard?
Yeah, and then you just hadthis evolution of you know into
where you are now, into P Suiteand helping high exec or not
high executive, but highperformers.
That's awesome, that's abeautiful evolution.
So, speaking about prosperity,I want to go beyond the bank
account.
You define prosperity assomething that includes finances

(09:41):
.
Something that includes finance, finances, yes, but it also is
relationships, health andspiritual alignment, and that is
not what most of us are taught.
So how do you define trueprosperity and what does it
shift when you stop chasingsomeone else's version of
success?
Oh, and how does it shift?

Speaker 2 (10:01):
yeah, I think I mean.
For me, true is having I mean,it's kind of my catchphrase
right, but having your soulsettled every single day, right?
So, no matter what happens inyour, in your personal world, in
the collective world, we livein some crazy times that, no
matter what at any moment, right, we all, we all have moments of

(10:25):
, you know, chaos, but even amidthat chaos, we still our soul
is settled, we know who we are,we know what we're about, we
know how we want to live and wehave the tools and the, I guess,
soul container to, and thewisdom to be able to control our

(10:46):
reaction most of the time,right, no one's perfect, but we
have the tools to really livewith joy and with success and
with harmony, no matter what ishappening in our personal, our
collective world.
And then what did you ask me?

(11:07):
The shift.
Where does that shift?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Yeah, how does the shift?
Yeah, yeah, how does this?
How does it shift when we stop?

Speaker 2 (11:16):
chasing someone else's version of our of of
success.
Yeah, I, I think you know, Iwas just recently at a resort
for a few days with my husband.
He was doing some work at aconference and I was resorting,
and so I was at the spa and Iwas in the pool and I was doing
all these things and, granted, Ihad planted the seeds, but I
came out of my massage and I hada new.
You know, once someone from mywishlist had stepped into the

(11:37):
prosperity suite, I had a bunchof new calls booked and I was
like, oh, this is what happenswhen you're in flow.
Right, for me water is flow,and I'd been at the pool and the
spa.
And so I think that shift iswhen we learn that our business
model, right, or our life or ourrelationships don't have to
look like what we've been taught, what we've learned, what we

(11:59):
think you know somebody elsewhat we think is the definition
of perfect based on what we see,when we can truly define our
life for ourself and build thesoul, confidence, right.
Like you know, I talk aboutmiracles.
You know, why do we think thatmiracles are so miraculous?
Right, they don't happen allthe time, they're extraordinary.
I believe that miracles happenevery day, but we don't not a

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lot of us, you know.
We have to build the soulcontainer to be able to sustain
the energy of somethinghappening for us that nobody
else can understand.
And so I think that shift oftrue prosperity happens when we
can, you know we are, we havethat soul esteem, soul esteem,
and when I talk about it inretreats, like there's a piece
where we, I think humans, welike to acquire things, we like

(12:48):
to acquire stuff, wisdom, books,people, all the things, and
then at some point, you know,they make it into our, our mind.
We logically can understand theconcepts, but the more when I
work with clients I'm like belowthe neck, below the neck, below
the neck, like bring it in.
So there's that there's thefirst, there's the understanding
, and then there's okay, let'sget in alignment.

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And then at some point there'sa shift.
That's a visceral embodiment,and that's that kind of from a
mysticism point of I can nevergo back to what was before, or I
can, but it's going to cost meright.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
And so I think it's an internal shift that happens,
that we all have to kind ofexperience in our own way.
However, you know, I have sometools and some hacks to help
people, to set them up for thatshift.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I love that.
I love that.
I think you called it soulesteem shift.
I love that.
I love that.
I think you called it soulesteem One.
You have to have the awarenessto start breaking down that old
self too.
I think that's interesting whenyou talk about the, for some
reason the self-esteem or that'snot self-esteem, but soul
esteem is almost that true self.

(14:03):
Would you say that?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, I think there's an essence about all of us,
right?
And whatever mask we've put on,whatever we've learned,
whatever we've been taught it'sa lot of excavating.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, I'm just, I'm just thinking.
I've been reading and watchinga lot of the and I know we
talked about this before, butthat shadow work and I've just
been doing my own research on itwith Carl Jung and it's super,
it's super intriguing, and I'mstill trying to.

(14:42):
It's like I get it conceptuallybut in application it's it's a
lot more difficult.
Um, but it does remind me ofyou know, kind of bringing that,
because his idea.
It sounds dark, but it was.
It's actually very positive,you know where.
Yeah, like you like it's, it'sbecoming whole, right, like and

(15:05):
uncovering those parts of youthat you've repressed because of
your parenting or yourenvironment or your culture or
your you know, and so it'sreally about digging deep and
seeing that and being aware andmindful of when those things pop
up, right, yeah, so it soundsvery similar and and that word I

(15:27):
don't know, I really like thatword soul esteem.
It sounds just, it soundsreally great.
So I want to go into workingwith the, the group of people
that you've decided to work with, which are the high performers,
and I think you mentionedearlier that that's just who
you're around because of yoursocial circle and what you did

(15:49):
for a living.
You're an attorney, so you workwith driven, capable people and
from the outside they look likewe're thriving, but underneath
they're navigating stress, lackof clarity and scarcity patterns
.
Why do you think this happens,especially with people who seem
to have it all, especially onthe outside?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, I think we all, you know, develop.
We all achieve certainaccolades for different reasons,
right, whether it's that youknow, I didn't have lawyers for
parents.
My mom was a professor, my dadwas a CPA.
They were really not a fan ofthe idea of law school, but I
had my own idea of what I wantedto do with that, and so we all
kind of set out on our journey,for maybe part of it is our

(16:32):
choice right, and part of it iswhat we've seen or been taught
or think we need to do to provesomething.
I have this theory right Ihaven't tested it but the more
initials we have behind our name, the more schooling we have the
higher our need to be right isand the bigger fear we have of

(16:54):
being found out.
Or it's why you see so muchimposter syndrome, because,
especially if you're in a jobwhere you have to perform at a
high level and you have to havethe answers whether you're a
doctor or a lawyer or you knowsome type of fiduciary it's it
can be fearful to not have theanswers and we're not taught to
say oh, you know what?

(17:14):
I don't, I don't have thatanswer right now, but let me go
research it and come back Right.
So we sort of put on thesemasks and we build up this
persona and it can, you know, itcan show up in different,
different ways.
Some of us I always talk aboutthe need to be right and the
need to make other people wrong,because we all have some
variation of it.
And it's a big thing that keepsus stuck, you know, and our

(17:36):
shadows are often where ourgreatest wisdom lies, like when
I talk about shadow work, whichI think is the most essential
work for anyone on the planetright now to do.
About shadow work, which Ithink is the most essential work
for anyone on the planet rightnow to do.
To me, shadow work is it'sreally the parts of yourself
that are going out and creatingthe stuff that you don't want,
right, because they're whetherit's a pattern or you know, it's

(17:58):
like I'll have people come tome and they'll say I'm doing all
the things, I'm, I'm thinkingpositive and I'm lighting the
candle and I'm, I'm doing all ofthe manifesting Um, and it's
not working.
And the truth is it's working.
Right, the, the universal laws,are infallible truth principles
.
They are always working.
You might be manifesting stuffyou don't want right, because of
the energy that you'reradiating or the frequency that

(18:19):
you're vibing at Um, but I, Iyou know, but I think about
myself, and it wasn't until Iwas in my late 30s, early 40s,
the last five, six, seven years,where I really realized that
the things that I absolutelywould not claim as a kid, the

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things that people would tell meoh, you're too sensitive.
You, you know, you feel thingstoo deeply, you're too much,
right?
So, instead of being thatsensitive, I developed this
attorney, aggressive, tough girllike persona right, we're great
in the courtroom, not so greatin life, right.

(19:06):
And it wasn't until, like, Idid so much work and I do work
every day right, I think it's ajourney we're on forever, uh
that I realized, oh, my gosh,like my power, my wisdom, like
my greatest gifts and the waythat I can serve people is in
all of those things that I wastold were too much.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, yeah, and so you suppressed all those things.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, or I.
Yeah, I I suppressed them, or Iwould only show them to certain
people, or I, I mean, I stillfelt them, but I the the.
The external reaction was angerversus you know, tears or
sadness or you know, justletting, letting myself feel
that, the things that I felt sodeeply.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, I, I I've done some self uh reflection on on
those things and I very, verymuch, like you, uh, I was told
to be strong, you know.
And, um, if I go through my, myhistory, I can see like I was a
competitive kickboxer for 16.

(20:09):
Well, I was a competitive.
I trained competitively for 16years in kickboxing.
I actually fought for threeyears so but that was my, you
know.
That was me trying to be strong, you know, and fiercely
independent.
You know, like I had all ofthese things instead of really,

(20:30):
and those are very in Chinesemedicine.
They're very young, it's the,it's the masculine side, it's
the young side, right when I'vebut I have this very soft, like
you know, feminine side that Ifeel like needs to come out more
and I want it to come out andit's starting to come out more
than my kind of the stoic, likeI can take anything on and I can

(20:51):
conquer anything.
But that was also how I wasloved.
Too right was to be strong.
So I've done a lot ofself-reflection.
So I find it super.
It's not always things that youexactly want to see, but
sometimes it's good to see themand when you see the good in

(21:13):
them, it's it's actually, yeah,like you said, like you there's,
it's life changing and it'ssubtle.
You know it's not like this biggrand finale of fireworks, but
it's just this subtle thing likewow, and then you don't want to
go back, right.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, there's a lot of wisdom in the work.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, I was just listening to again Carl Jung and
he was talking aboutperfectionism.
And again, going back to that,some of his work sounds very
dark.
But that perfectionism isreally about this potential,
this repressed potential ofcreativity that wants to come
out right.

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And so there's really this likeif you can let that out, you
can see your full potentialright, but in that it's scary.
Anyways, I think it'sfascinating.
I love this kind of work.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, and I think you know, if you think about like,
like, letting that creativityout, right, that's where you
find your flow is, in that deepcreativity.
And you know, when I work withpeople, whether it's tweaking an
offer or, you know, leaving ajob and doing the thing that
they've always been passionateabout and figuring out how to

(22:25):
monetize that when we can stepinto you know, we might hear it
called like the zone of genius,but when we can step into that
space, that's our, you know, Iwould say, unique gift, or just
that zone of genius, and we canreally use our innate talents to
create.
That's when, when all of theyou know, all of the prosperity

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wheels start to turn and thingsstart to really flow together.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, that's really beautiful.
So how do you handle?
Because if you're scared ofthat potential and what comes
along with that potential, whichis more visibility and judgment
and all of those things Like,how do you coach somebody
through the fears of of seeingtheir full potential?

Speaker 2 (23:14):
So I play in the energy space.
So I mean, we talk about mindset, we talk about positive
thinking, all those things, butthe truth is we have, you know,
we have three brains.
We have the head brain, theheart brain, the gut brain and
we can never out think theenergy in our heart and our gut.
So you can listen to positiveaffirmations, put you know, put

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post-its on your mirror, thinkhappy thoughts, write yourself
the million dollar, check allthe things, and if the energy in
your gut is, I'm not goodenough, I'm not smart enough, I
don't know enough, I'm afraid tobe seen.
Who am I to do this?
Whatever our version of that is, we can never outthink that

(23:58):
energy.
So what I do is I help peopleidentify the energy and clear
the energy.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And we.
I mean, I've studied and beencertified in several different
energy modalities, but I alsohave created my own that I use.
That I've used since I waslittle and, I think, a big
difference.
You know, I, I, I have neverbeen in therapy, but I have many
clients who have, and myunderstanding is there's a lot

(24:26):
of looking at the past intherapy.
In mysticism.
It's very forward looking,right, it's future looking, and
it's a similar thing in socialpsychology, right, the
aspirational self.
Like who do we have to be todayto be that person we want to be
in two weeks, two years,whatever.
And so when we can, I don'tneed to.
When I work with peopleone-on-one or like in the

(24:48):
prosperity suite, I don't needto know every trauma and drama
that happened to you in the pastto have that energy in your gut
.
You know I might scan the bodyand say I'm seeing a lot of
energy around your pancreasthat's associated with defeat.
Have you felt defeated?
Yes, do you want to let go ofthat?
Yes, right or no?
Sometimes we don't.

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Sometimes, you know, there'swoundology is real right.
People identify with theirwounds.
But if we do want to let it go,then I.
Then I help clear the energyand then we also replace with
higher thought, because if wedon't replace with higher
thought we go back and create atthe same frequency.
So the biggest, I would say,differentiator right between me

(25:31):
and a lot of coaches is I playin the energy and I say play,
not in a playful way but I, thatis, my, my zone of genius is in
clearing the energy.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, yeah, I like, I like that, and your, your, your
program is nine, nine months.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
It is yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
And what's at the end ?
Well, let me ask you this firstin working with P suites, what
kinds of resistance or stucknessshow up the most?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I think I wouldn't.
I don't know if I would sayresistance or stuckness.
I think surprises happen a lot,right?
So people come in wanting toscale their business, create
more money or let go of sometype of you know, maybe they
have rheumatoid arthritis, youknow some type of physical thing

(26:21):
.
What happens is what we work onto get that resolved is not
anything that they would expect.
Right, if you want to scaleyour business and create more
money and have higher levelclients or whatever the thing is
like, we might spend the firstcouple times together talking
about your relationship withyour mom or dad or a hurt that
you had in the past, becausethat might be the energy that

(26:44):
needs to transmute to open thespace for you to hold the
container for the bigger clientsor the higher dollar ticket.
And so I think there's a lot ofsurprises.
I think in terms of resistanceright, you know when I talk
about everybody has a need to beright and it's not that you
know I like this particularperson and you have to like this

(27:05):
person, or my favorite favoritemeal is X and you need to have
this be your favorite meal.
It's really what they need tobe.
Right is at some point in ourlife usually before age seven or
10, we have made unconsciouslycertain decisions about ourself
I'm not smart enough, I'm notpretty enough, I'm not good
enough, whatever the thing is,I'm too much.
And then what we do is becauseour ego, our little self right

(27:29):
the job is to protect and keepus safe and small we will go out
and create and pull in more ofthose same situations that prove
, yep, I'm too much.
You know, it's like you dateone person and they cheat on you
, and then you're like, oh, all,all people are all people cheat

(27:54):
.
And then we date five morecheaters, right, and so it's
really this like we're creating,we're pulling in situations and
circumstances that prove thebelief that we have about
ourself.
And so when we can say, like, isit true that I'm too much?
Is it true that I'm not smartenough?
No, it's not like we have.
Is it true that I'm not smartenough?
No, it's not like we have?
You know, I've had people whohave.
I had a client who had a JD, aPhD, an MBA, an engineering

(28:15):
undergrad.
He was a patent attorney, Imean, and I'm like, is it true
that you're not smart enough?
Right, like on paper, you'repretty smart.
Right, you have a lot ofaccolades.
But it was just like always I'mnever smart enough.
So I have to keep getting moreand more and more and more and
more.
And so I think those are that'sthe resistance, is the is.

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I mean, it takes radicalresponsibility and really,
really, really hard truth withourself, hard truth with ourself
, honesty with ourself, to lookat, you know, everything we've
created up until now, the good,bad and the ugly we are the
common denominator, right, andwe are the one that holds the

(28:57):
key to change.
And I think you know it'sreally it's not to say you can't
do that work on your own.
You know, I certainly have donesome of it on my own.
I also have an amazingspiritual director that I've
worked with for a few years andI've worked with coaches in the
past and mentors.
But you know, when you, when youdo something like the P suite,
you're getting.
You're getting a guide like me,who's been through it right,

(29:19):
who've walked, who's walkedthrough the journey to walk
beside you like I'm a companion.
I'm not a guru, but I'm thereto walk beside you Like I'm a
companion.
I'm not a guru, but I'm thereto walk beside you.
And you're getting the speed,like, can you figure it out
yourself?
Sure, can you do it faster witha guide?
Absolutely Right.
So you're, you're joining thatgroup of like-minded people to
have the guide, to have theclarity and to have the speed of

(29:39):
transformation.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, I agree with that.
You can do it a lot faster whenyou have somebody in your
corner helping you.
That's been there before.
Yeah, absolutely.
So I'm curious how you?
What do you think about thenervous system?
I know a lot gets stored in thenervous system.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I mean, I think what's the book?
The Body Keeps the Score, the.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Body Keeps the Score.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Absolutely.
And I have a friend who herwhole practice she's a
functional medicine doctor andher whole practice is on like
what you know what emotions arerestoring and what energy center
.
So I think, absolutely.
How did you phrase your initialquestion?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I was just curious about the nervous system because
I know the nervous system holdsthe score and I was curious
about your thoughts on it.
And how does that play intowhat you do?

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, I think.
I mean, I absolutely think thenervous system is huge and I
think the way, the way it playsin is when we can clear the
energy right and sometimes thereare other tools that we pull in
.
But you know, I know, like I, Ihelp people to to really get to

(30:50):
know their body right, their,their, their visceral reactions,
because I think the nervoussystem tells us right, we either
our heart rate goes up or wefeel heat, or we feel and we can
really start to get below theneck and like I know, you know,
when I'm going into ego or I'mgoing up on my soapbox which I
still do, I'm human, right, butI feel it coming up, like

(31:13):
through my whole system as heatand you know my face looks
sometimes get hot.
But I think if we can tune intothose physiological, I guess it
would be like clues.
And then when we start to clearthe energy, you know, I have
people tell me like, oh, I don't, I don't get when I get up to

(31:35):
speak in front of a group, Idon't get those butterflies in
my tummy or I don't get thatlike trauma response that I used
to have when I was so triggered.
So I think it, I think that howit plays with the nervous
system is very much, you know,similar to how we work with the
energy body, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I was curious to how youwent about doing that, because I
know there are TRE like traumareleasing exercises.
Some yogis have the same youknow have different exercises.
I know that sound bowl therapyis a great way to release some,
release the nervous system.
Acupuncture is great forregulating the nervous system.

(32:13):
So, yeah, I was just curious,like how you it's been popping
up a lot lately is just thisnervous system and as an
acupuncturist I'm curious aboutincorporating.
Even though I do treat, Iregulate the nervous system.
I've never actually told peoplewhat I was doing Right and and
actually educated people on howacupuncture can help regulate

(32:37):
the nervous system.
So it's just been coming up alot for me and then it also has
been coming up in the more kindof spiritual area where if you
want to grow, in the more kindof spiritual area where if you
want to grow, then you have to,you know, regulate the nervous
system, because when you'realways in that fight or flight,

(32:59):
then it's hard to be creative orsee those opportunities right
when you, because you'rebasically running from a tiger
the whole time.
So why would you be open tosolutions and creativity?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Yeah, Well, and it's interesting because I've never
really thought of it in this wayuntil now and you know what,
what we do, what I do to helppeople find their personal flow
hacks is very similar to what Iwould say is how I have
regulated my nervous systemRight.
So when you're in flow, you knowthe space and time disappears

(33:27):
and you're in deep creativityand you're it's.
It's a very like peaceful spacebut also high productivity.
But I know, when I were likefor me chanting right, I have
learned that if I am just like,sometimes I need to get the
noise out Right, and so I think,like with clients, I do

(33:50):
sometimes it's things that I dodirectly with them.
Sometimes it might be theymight be doing acupuncture, they
might be doing you know, I havesome some sort of like very
simple exercises for people thathave been through trauma right
To kind of like bring them backand help to self-regulate.
So I think it's a combinationof things and sometimes it's.
It really is helping people tolearn their body and find what

(34:13):
works for them.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that Cause we're all so
different, right, and there's somany, there are so many choices
out there that you have to findwhat works for for you the best
.
I've been playing around withthose trauma-releasing exercises
and they're interesting, butI'm an athlete and the exercises
you're supposed to do toexhaustion and I'm thinking I

(34:38):
could do this all day long.
So it's I mean not really, butit takes me a lot longer than
somebody else.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
But I do love sound bowls and I, so I'm I want to go
to a sound bowl studio overhere.
But anyway, back to one thingfor you, like I'll just add on
to I think, like we, a lot ofthings we can do, and I don't
know if this is resonant for you, but a lot of things we can do
until we're exhausted,especially when we're doing from

(35:07):
a mental space, if we can dropin even more and just, you know,
I always say like if we're, ifwe, if we hear ourselves saying
I think, or I think, drop into,I feel.
Because if we can, if we're, ifwe're embodied and we're
feeling like we tend to get moreexhausted more quickly with
some of that stuff.
So it could just check in andbe like am I in head or am I in

(35:29):
heart, kind of thing.
Oh, I like that.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Okay, I'll, I'll.
I'll try that.
Yeah, that's what happens.
I'll let you know.
Okay, can you share?
I want to talk a little bitmore about P-Suite, but can you
share a shift you witnessed thatreally surprised you, something
that changed for someone, notjust professionally but
personally and energetically?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yeah, I think I.
Actually.
I had a conversation with aclient and colleague, catherine,
just we were recording anotherepisode yesterday or the day
before recently, and she startedworking with me gosh, initially
, maybe almost seven years ago,and I have always seen her as a

(36:11):
visionary, right.
I've seen her as somebody whosees the big picture, who's
there to create and connect and,as you know, a leader, and she
shared which I didn't know thatprior to her working with me she
saw herself as an individualcontributor, but not as a

(36:32):
visionary at all and not assomebody that would go out and
create to the level that she'screating in the world now.
She's, you know, has ainternational networking group,
she holds conferences in Londonand in the US and she's just
building a lot of differentthings, and that was a shift

(36:54):
that I mean I have seen theshift in the physical world of
what she was creating thenversus what she's creating now
and how her vision has expanded.
But I think it speaks to.
Yes, I saw the outward shift,but there was an internal shift
that she had that I didn't evenknow about until like two days
ago and I've been working on andoff with her and we do, we

(37:16):
co-create together and do thingstogether, and so that was
really cool to see that she wentfrom thinking of herself as an
individual contributor, kind oflike helping to contribute to
maybe someone else's vision to.
I'm a visionary.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
And I can, and I can bring people along in my vision,
which is really cool.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, that's going to be rewarding to to see that.
Yeah, I think I love seeingpeople make those shifts, those
small little shifts that turninto something big, yeah, okay,
so you've already mentioned whatmakes P Suite or your coaching
and mentorship a little bitdifferent, but I want to dig

(37:58):
into it a little bit more.
So you described the P Suite asa space where high performers
move from confusion to clarityand burnout to flow.
What makes this mentorshipdifferent from other coaching
containers or programs?

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, I think a lot of things Tell us.
So I mean one I am carefullycurating the group.
You can't just go and click alink and buy and sign up.
You know we have to make sureyou're a good fit for me, I'm a
good fit for you and you're agood fit for this cohort.

(38:34):
So I think the intentionalitythat's going into the group is
and I believe souls cometogether for a reason right.
So we end up with people thatare going to be great fits.
So I think just theintentionality that I'm putting
into the cohort is a big one.

(39:07):
I also I don't know of any otherprograms that are extremely
tactical, in the sense of youknow what are the actions that I
need to take today to becomethis, tomorrow, whatever, and
also very, I would say, tactical, visceral and energetic, right.
So we're going to be getting inthe nitty gritties of what is
your zone of genius.
Are you creating within that?
Are you selling within that?
Maybe you don't want to, butmaybe there's something that is

(39:29):
in your zone of genius that youcan incorporate to get you that
flow that's going to show up inyour law practice, right.
Um, so I think the uniquenessof having the tactical.
I love creating offers.
I love helping people scalewith the energetic and intuitive
and the deep, deep, deep,internal and soul work, combined

(39:52):
with teaching people.
Hey, here are 10 to 12infallible truth, principles,
universal law, whatever word youwant to put to them.
That, when you really reallylearn them and learn, what does
it look like for when you reallyreally learn them and learn,
what does it look like for me tolive in alignment with them and
start to embody them?
You know they're infallible,right?

(40:14):
So once you can step into that,you can create whatever you
want, right?
And also that piece of you knowin real time you're stepping in
and, oh, this fear is coming up, oh, this doubt is coming up,
oh, this scarcity mentality, andthen we're clearing in real
time.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, and creating a safe space.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Absolutely yeah, number one, I mean I, I am a
very, you know, it is a veryinclusive space.
It is a very sacred space.
I believe it's a space whereall religions, and no religion,
are welcome.
Right, we talk aboutspirituality, but that doesn't
mean that you worship a certainGod or you're a certain religion

(40:59):
.
It's, you know, your higherpower, should you have one, is
your.
It's between you and yourhigher power, right?
And so it's a very inclusivespace and I'm you know, that's
one thing that I am very peoplethat have worked with me, you
know I'm very adamant at holdingthat space.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
And I have a pretty big container to hold the space.
So it tends to work out andit's a combination of a little
bit of private coaching ormentoring, you know, monthly,
twice a month, group calls thatwill also conclude, hot seats
and laser mentoring and thenthree in-person intensives.

(41:40):
If you can't come to Houstonthen you can join virtually.
But it's a combination of, youknow, virtual in-person
community, one-on-one kind ofall of my favorite ingredients
and all of the things for me,kind of behind the scenes.
It's the bridge to birth a new.
You right, it's the bridge tobirth a new human.
Because I think the ways thatwe as a society, as humans,

(42:05):
civilization, the ways we'vebeen going for the last couple
hundred years, like not all ofthat is sustainable.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
And so we've got to birth new humans.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Yeah, Are you still on?
Have you gotten off all socialmedia except for LinkedIn?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yes, yeah, yes, I was off everything, but now I am on
LinkedIn.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, I remember you've gone back and forth
throughout the years and I have.
Obviously I need to be on, Ineed to grow my business that
way.
I know we talked about hey, canI, can I possibly grow my
business without being on socialmedia?
And I don't remember if Italked to you about this last
time we spoke.
But a guy, his name is ChaseHughes, did I, did I?

(42:49):
I don't think so.
He is a, uh, former military guyand he is a behavior profiler
and he specializes and he forthe military.
He did brainwashing andinterrogations and he's super
interesting.
He's out of the service andhe's entered the public realm

(43:10):
and he's entered this spacewhere this kind of personal
growth, evolution, spiritualplace, and he's super
interesting because he will notget on social media at all.
He thinks that social media anykind of TV, like marketing
social media, all of it isbasically brainwashing you, so

(43:35):
he will not get on it.
He tells everyone he works withto get off social media and he
is all about coming back toyourself.
You know what we've beentalking about finding yourself
taking off that mask and youknow who you think you are is
not who you really are and it'sso interesting.
But he, his, his work is.

(43:55):
It's interesting and I listenedto him all the time, but it's
also a little scary because hetalks a lot about the world
itself, right, but you shouldlook him up.
He's, he's, he's an interestingguy, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, and I think all the more important.
I mean, I I went back onLinkedIn.
I had been off everything forabout five years and I went back
on, partially because, you know, the P suite is something that
it's not.
I mean, I think it's.
I think the value is more thanthere for the cost and it is

(44:29):
something that I I designed forpeople who.
My goal, my intention for it,was to have new people, people
that hadn't worked with me inthe past, and so far everyone
that stepped in has never workedwith me before.
So I'm really excited aboutthat.
But I knew I needed to reachmore people than just in person,
and so I'm kind of doing theexperiment with LinkedIn and
it's been really fun, but I I'mvery I go on for a half hour in

(44:53):
the morning and then that's it,you know, and I think all the
more there is so much noisecoming at us and programming and
all of the things that like,all the more reason to like do
the internal work and settleyour soul and know who you are
at your essence, amid all thenoise.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, and I'm on the
I'm on that journey as well, youknow minimal use because I
think it is useful, uh, and Iget a lot of educational stuff
from it as well, uh, so I'mdefinitely watching it for that.
But, um, yeah, I, I, I'm, I'mall for pulling back the mask

(45:33):
and getting to to know yourself.
So, talking about the peoplethat have entered P Suite right
now, you said are people thathave never worked with you
before how do you blend thatmindset, energy, work and
practical systems inside P Suitewithout it feeling overwhelming
or too much for people,especially if they're not new to

(45:53):
this space?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
So I meet people where they are.
I will say that the people thatare stepping in are I mean,
everyone has a different depthof experience in the energy
space or the intuitive space, oryou know they're at least open
and curious to things likeuniversal law.
So I wouldn't say they're notcomplete novices to some of the

(46:18):
topics and they've done somework on their own.
It's interesting.
It just so happens that rightnow everyone who stepped in is a
coach, some type of anexecutive coach or mentor, and
some people are wanting to scaletheir business, some people

(46:39):
there's one gal who's wanting tocomplete.
She has an amazing, successfulbusiness and she's wanting to
completely pivot to sort of adifferent model.
I have somebody stepping in who,like, really could care less
about talking about her lawpractice, right, she just wants
to work on this old stuff.
Law practice, right, she justwants to work on this old stuff.

(47:01):
And so the way that I navigatethat is, you know, I I meet
everyone where they are and Itry to use one, especially in
one on ones.
I use language that iscomfortable for them, that
resonates with them, and andreally just trying to meet
people where they are and get toknow people really well and I

(47:22):
encourage, you know we have aprivate community on Kajabi, so
I encourage you know the membersto get to know each other and
really just you know showing upwith an open heart and open mind
and and just you know, being inthat sacred witnessing of
others and sacred space withothers.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Nice, I love that.
So for someone listening who iscurious but skeptical, what
would you want them to knowabout stepping into this kind of
space?

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Well, I'd say, if you're curious, just let's get
on a call.
Um, no harm, no foul, right?
We can just see if we thinkyou're a good fit, if I'm a good
fit for you, um, and I wouldsay, you know my philosophy and
what I've learned in my own workand coaching hundreds of other
people the soul knows right.

(48:13):
So if in your gut and if you'rein your heart, you're, you're
feeling like I think this is Idon't want to say I think, but I
feel like this is my next stepI feel like this is the thing
that's going to propel me to thenext space.
I want to go to Trust your gut,go with your soul, the human

(48:34):
will catch up.
So, you know, I I would muchrather work with someone who,
who is like I know, this is thething.
I don't know how I'm going topay for it.
We can get on a call, we canget creative.
I'm really great at helpinglike, let's create some offers,
let's do some things, you know,and versus the person who is,

(48:58):
who has all the money in theworld and is just doing it.
You know as, oh, this might befun, right?
So go with your gut and thehuman will catch up, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, I like that too .
Do you have any rituals orgrounding practices that help
you stay rooted while navigatingsuccess?

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I, I have a pretty extensive contemplative practice
, so I tend to start eachmorning, you know, with
contemplative silence.
I also I'm not Catholic, but Ilearned to pray the rosary as a
meditative practice, so I'll dothat sometimes.
Sacred dance is really good forme.
I mean, sometimes it's Bikramyoga in the backyard, but also

(49:40):
there's a woman that I followwho does some sacred dance, just
kind of getting the body moving, reading some, whether it's
mystical Kabir or Rumi, mysticalpoetry or high text.
Those are kind of my start, myday things, and sometimes it's
an hour, sometimes it's three,right, and then I also, for me,

(50:02):
I try to get in, you know, getin some kind of water.
Most days, whether it's take aswim in the pool, you know my
SOS is go take a shower.
If I start to go into, like howam I going to figure this out,
take shower, because water forme is a flow hack and I think
and I help everyone, you knowall of my clients that I work
with, I help, I help you come upwith your own.

(50:24):
What is your routine, right?
What is it?
What is what helps you toground, what helps you not just
flow, but just starting yourmorning with whatever routine is
going to set you up for themost success that day, whether
it's a gratitude, practice orexercise or silence, we figure

(50:45):
out what works for you.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Yeah, I love that.
Well, can you talk a little bitabout P Suite itself?
As far as, like I know, it'snine months the cost.
You said a little bit like itwas some community, but can you
give us a little bit more aboutwhat that setup is like with the
structures?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, so it's a nine month program.
And right now I've actuallyopened up.
I initially had five foundingmember seats.
I've opened up an additionalfive, so we have a few founding
seats left, which with that youget an additional three hours of
one-on-one companionship, sothat can be used as a mini VIP
day.
It can be used throughout theprogram.
You can start immediately withsome mentoring.

(51:27):
So we have some private andthen we everyone starts with a
kickoff call because I want toknow, I want to know what, if
you could wave a wand and have,nine months from now, anything
change like what transformationwould make it successful for you
?
And that's what we want tocreate and that's what I'm
creating the program around.
It's each of those individualtransformations.

(51:49):
There are tools.
There are tools that I use,like the universal law and
energy clearing, but there isnot a week by week program
design until we know who thefinal cohort is, because that is
all custom to the cohort.
And then the structure is.
So you have your individual,your kickoff call, and then we

(52:12):
have two two hour calls everymonth that that are group calls.
That'll be a combination ofsome high teachings and some
laser mentoring, coaching, hotseating, energy clearing, and
then we have three intensivesthroughout the nine months that
are at the Houstonian Club inHouston Texas, or virtual.

(52:32):
If you need to join virtually,you can.
And then we have a privatecommunity on Kajabi where we can
interact in between.
I'm sure I'm forgettingsomething, but those are the big
ones.
And then you know, within thatthere's like a space for people
to ask me questions in between,and then there's going to be a
monthly office hours for youknow questions and the cost is

(52:57):
the pay in full is $12,555.
And you can do just a depositand then pay the difference
before we launch on September 1.
So doors are going to close onAugust 20.
So we're in the middle oflaunch right now and there's
also a payment plan.
So that's a deposit and then Ithink it's $13.95 for the nine

(53:19):
months $13.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Okay, yeah, nice.
Well, one last question beforewe wrap things up.
You talk about universal lawand mysticism, but also lead in
business and entrepreneurshipspaces.
So how do you personally bridgethe mystical with the practical
?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
So for me it's all one in the same.
I just get creative with mylanguage.
So if I, you know, I might nottalk about mysticism, so to
speak, or spirituality,obviously in corporate or I mean
I might, instead of sayinguniversal law, I still will say
truth principle and I still willbring universal law in Um.

(54:03):
But a lot of it is when I docorporate workshops.
It's very, it's very um peakperformance, flow science, sort
of that mod.
I lean into the modern scienceand just kind of sneak the
ancient wisdom in there.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
So it comes down to language, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Yeah, pretty Cause, to me it's, it's one in the same
.
And I, you know, I've hadclients that have come to me
that the same guy that Imentioned, that had all the
million degrees, he came to meand he said I don't believe in
God.
I don't believe in any, anyhigher power no-transcript.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
What did you say?
You said you act as you want toact and you let your gut or you
let your gut catch up later,which?
What did you say?
You?

Speaker 2 (55:14):
said you like, make the decision from the soul and
the human will catch up.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, the human will catch up.
Yes, yes, yes, it reminds mevery much of quantum physics,
especially in that space whereyou have this vision of who it
is that you want to be, that you, you focus on that vision and
then you'll catch up, right Like, the human will catch up to
that vision.
But you have to focus on thatvision.
That came to mind when you saidthat earlier.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah, yeah, and I think you know you asked earlier
about what is some of theresistance you know we might get
and I think a lot of that isaround time, right, it's still a
lack energy.
But you know, if you look atthe research around, you know
I'm thinking of the book 10X iseasier than 2X and the idea of
impossible goals, like we humanswill fill whatever time we have

(56:03):
, right.
And so part of you know thenine months and I would say I
would say a theme that isemerging for this cohort is
mastery.
So looking at what does it takeand everyone might be mastering
something different and wemight master five things during
the cohort.
Like research shows it takesabout I think it's like 61 or 66

(56:24):
days to truly master.
So we're going to play withsome of those time frames in the
cohort or in the p-suite.
But I think you know it is true,some of the resistance comes
when people might say, okay,nine months from now, I want to
do this and I'm like, well, whynot three months?
Right, because it's that ideaof the impossible goal and we

(56:46):
are, and you know in my wordsit's going quantum right.
How do we go quantum?
Whether it's healing orcreating or success.
A lot of times it's.
It's really going up againstsome of our resistance around
the beliefs we have about time.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Interesting yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I'm on a year right now.
I'm, I'm, I'm visioning in ayear right now, so maybe I need
to back it up to six months.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yeah, just, it's like cause, if you, you know, if you
give it was.
I was a talk, or maybe it wasin the book the Science of
Scaling.
I recently read it and I havethoughts.
But, um, you know, it was this,this guy who wanted to buy a.
I think it was wanting to buy aprofessional sports team by the
time he was 50 or something.
And and Ben Hardy said, well,what if you did it by the time

(57:35):
you were 35?
And I think he was in his 20sand one of the things he wanted
to do was to pursue a PhD.
And you know why are we?
And so the idea is and I thinkit's a Ben Hardy concept, I
think is you know, what are weoptimizing that shouldn't exist?
That shouldn't exist Right,because how many times, you know

(57:59):
, we're so busy making thisbetter when, if we actually
looked at our 10 year goal, it'slike, does this even matter to
that goal?
Maybe we should just let it gonow.
But we, we have a hard timeletting things go sometimes.
Yeah, yes, yes, that's a wholenother conversation but it's,
it's a place that we we we dealwith the resistance of it in the
P-suite, so it's relevant right.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Yeah, letting go.
When I was in Austin, I don'tknow, I think that kept coming
up for me Let go, let go, let go.
And I was trying to feel likewhat that felt like in my body,
you know, to let go.
And so I took a quarter and Iput it in my hand and I dropped
it and I was trying to get thatfeeling in my body to to like

(58:47):
how does that?
I didn't know how it felt tolet go, you know, but it's hard,
it's it's hard to embody.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
That, you know Well and I think just the reframe for
me, like reframing let go torelease helps a lot, because
letting go feels like I think oflike the scene in Twister,
where they're holding on and thetornado's coming and if you let
go you're going to be swept up,whereas if you can just like
release it, then it's okay.
It's kind of like the idea whenyou're you're trying to release

(59:16):
weight.
I always say release weightversus lose weight, because
what's lost must be found andyou don't want to find the
weight again.
So I'm like how can we reframethe word?
Because words have energy.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
So if we can say like , okay, let go release it to me,
to me it helps.
I don't know, it's a hack formy brain.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Well, I think those hacks are important and I think
this is really awesome.
I think you're doing somereally great work, so I'm super
excited for you.
Is there anything else you wantto?
You want to add?

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I think, if you I think we'll have the in the show
notes we'll have all this stuffright?
Yeah, if you go, if you, ifyou're curious and you want to
have a conversation, even if youdon't think you want to join
the P suite, if you go to thewebsite, there's a place to sign
up for a clarity call and ifyou're curious, I'm I love
talking to people, so feel freeto book a discovery call or a
clarity call and I'm happy tochat, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Were you going to do an offer?
Did we talk about that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Oh, yes, we have it, so we'll put a link.
So I recently created a we callit.
We're calling it the zone ofgenius quiz, but it's really the
like what is your mysticalarchetype?
Zone of genius?
But it's a super quick quiz andthen you'll get in like 30
seconds, you'll get your resultsand it's it's really fun.

(01:00:35):
So I've gotten a lot of greatfeedback, so we'll include the
link for that too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Okay, yeah, I'll be happy to put that in the show
notes, all right, well, this hasbeen awesome.
And again, thank you for comingback to the podcast.
For your second, your second,uh, I guess, uh for your second
episode.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Thanks for having me, and I love what you're up to in
the world too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Thank you Well, best to you and I'm sure we'll talk
soon.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Sounds great Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
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