September 28, 2021 • 44 mins
On this episode of ‘We’re Not Blowing Hot Air,’ we bring you Part 2 of our interview with Dr. Patrick K. Porter. If you missed Part 1, be sure to go back and listen right now so you don’t miss any of Dr. Porter’s incredible insights into the human brain. We talk about meditation, gurus, meditation hacks, and gurus who might be hacks! Dr. Porter shares more about BrainTap’s use of light and sound , "frequency following response," stress, how the brain needs to be in a better mental state, stigmas, addictions, and how to find our perfect high through positive thinking. Plus, learn about rewiring your brain, hypnosis, and how to take action that will help you destress, get motivated and stay on a healthy path. And once again, stick around after the interview to rock out to post-hardcore band, Lost in Prague.
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with post hardcore band lost in.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay.
So how does the, you candownload the brain tap app now
and listen to the sessions, butisn't there a headset and I
Googled toggles.
You wear on your face.
Like it looks so Saifai, we'll,we'll share, uh, an image of it,
but
Speaker 4 (04:45):
So what's happening there is.
Yep.
Yeah.
So what's happening that thelights in the eyes, people
always ask us that, why do youhave lights in the eyes?
Well, the eyes are just attachedto the brain.
They are brain matter.
So when you tell somebody youhave beautiful eyes, you're
really saying, Hey, I gotbeautiful brain.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah.
It used to feed the primordialbrain, the eyeballs, where is
the brain?
It's the only exposed area ofthe brain in our current state.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
So if we want to bring energy into the brain
because we need ATP production.
So that's what light does.
So the body absorbs the light inthrough photo.
Biomodulation it circulates tothe brain and helps to heal.
We also do that through thelights in the ears, but the
lights in the ears are actually,they're both flashing.
They both have there's twofunctions to light.
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One is the nanometers, whichmeans the link, the, the unit of
light that how far can penetratewith the body, for instance,
blue is very minimal.
Red is much further.
Infrared can go right throughthe body.
So the body goat absorbs thesewomen.
The cell is full of energy.
It just basically reflects thatlight back.
You don't get any more and youjust absorb it.
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So what we're doing with thelight is we're broadcasting
frequency with light.
So in the ears broadcast, evenNojay frequency to turn off
sympathetic overload and turn onup FedEx.
And we did this first withautistic children that couldn't
understand, or we didn't thinkthey could understand what we're
saying.
We found out later, they didunderstand.
They just couldn't communicateit back to us.
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But what we did was we weretraining their brains only by
lights out of vibration, notwords.
And 90% of these children in thestudy were speaking within 30
days because our vocal cordsonly think of every brainwave,
like a wifi network for thebody.
That's healthy.
If we don't have alpha, one ofthe things that it controls
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among the many other things, itcontrols speech.
So autistic children don't havea lot of alpha.
That's why they stem, whichmeans they're when they're
quaking, their body startsquaking they're at high beta, or
when they become disassociated.
That's when they're in high beta, they're just totally unplugged
in the world because data's avery small bandwidth just before
sleep.
So you don't really operate inthat zone very often, but these
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kids would flip the switch.
They'd either be in high beta orhigh beta, and they had no alpha
, but as soon as we've got analpha, they could then mitigate
that energy flow through thebody.
So think of brainwaves as a waythat we create flow through the
body, as far as energy and inAfrica.
And that light, the big reasonwe started using light before
all this that we learned isNora, which is a group called
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neural ophthalmology researchassociation.
I started working with thembecause they, some of their
research I read hearing is 30%with your eyes.
So if you've ever been to alecture, you couldn't hear the
lecture, but then you moved yourawareness.
So you could see the lecture.
Then you could hear them that'sbecause that's what triggers the
receptors that are ears to thatpiece of information is
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important because our eyes areseeing it.
And it's just the same thing.
If you're ever doing now that wehave all these online meetings,
when somebody turns off thevideo and you're listening, it's
this whole different experiencethat seeing them, then, you know
what I mean?
So when you see them, you'reengaging more of the brain.
That's why people find it sohard to meditate on their own.
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Because as soon as you closeyour eyes, you've just shut down
30% of your brain function.
So the brain thinks it's time togo to sleep, but that's not
meditation.
Meditation is actually keepingyour frontal lobe active, alert,
and awake.
And that's why it takes so longfor people to learn, to do it on
their own and do it effectively.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And BrainTap does that offer a hack into
meditation?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Oh yeah.
I mean, we can take, I I'vebeen, I've had the privilege of
being in India, actually havinggurus use BrainTap in measuring
their brains.
Pre-imposed we were able to movethe brains of gurus because not
that they couldn't do it ontheir own, but they were part of
the experiment and we showedthem just by letting go
relaxing.
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We could have some of that,never meditated get the same
brain scan as a girl who's beenmeditating for 40 years and it
didn't take a week.
It took 20 minutes of during abreakout session.
Now
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You measured heart rate variability again, before
and after.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Sure.
The HRV, we also measured ECG.
We also measured EEG.
So there's three differentmeasurements that they all
correlate together to say, Hey,what is the state of this
person's nervous system?
And that's where we're figuringit out.
Now I can tell you right nowthat some gurus didn't even test
very well.
So we could kind of figure outwhose system was working for the
nervous system who wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So they're really not a guru.
They're the hack of a guru.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There, they found a way to getpaid, to do what they love,
which is do nothing.
So, you know, but those are theones that are really in a state
of bliss and harmony.
One of the best scans we everdid was actually a follower of a
guru that was in such bliss.
I mean, this guy is just runningaround so happy.
He'd been with his guru all day.
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We measured him.
He just knocked the charts.
I mean, he was just incredible.
We usually don't see that.
Usually when we measure, we'vemeasured about 30,000 brains
over the last 10 years.
And I would say that primarilymost brains are tired,
exhausted.
And they're primarily in thestate of Delta, which tells us
they have a lot of inflammationor they've had a brain injury.
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So that's what we're seeing.
I mean, in fact, at trade shows,we did an average, the average
brain scan is 70% Delta at atrade show, which is not good.
You're supposed to be awake,alert and learning at a trade
show.
But these guys, they want theirbrain to go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah.
It explains a lot about us, ourbot, our world right now, you
know, I mean, um, so the sleep,so the app, you download it and
you can, you don't wear thegoggles or the headset for
sleep.
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You can, if you want.
But 20% of the people will have20% of the people might have a
problem.
Like even my wife, who's beendoing this since the eighties.
Uh, she can't do a light sessionafter six o'clock.
She can't drink coffee after twoo'clock or she'll be up all
night.
So if you have a nervous systemthat can handle caffeine, that's
usually a good sign that youshouldn't use the lights at
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night because your nervoussystem is so full of energy.
It's like having a company can'tput any more water into it, you
know, because we're giving youenergy and we want the body to
slow down and basically be tiredwhen you go to sleep.
Right.
You want to be able to slip intothat Delta state in and go
through those cycles withoutwaking up.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So.
Sure.
So then you, when do you putthe, I want to know about the
helmet, how does it cause you, Ijust want our listeners to know
you can download the free appand use the, the different
sleep.
There's a relaxation.
Um, and then all different sortof benefits.
And then you can also get bypurchase the equipment and then
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the helmet and the goggles.
And then it enhances us as this.
Am I understanding that
Speaker 4 (11:48):
The differences that light will get you there faster?
One of the studies we just didwith, uh, these were coal miners
that spend their whole life inthe dark.
They go to sleep.
When they go to work, when it'sdark, they leave.
When it's dark, there were 12hours in the mind.
So we thought these would be theperfect people to do a brain tap
study for sleep.
And we, we, when that studycomes out, we're just
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formulating all of the data.
But the preliminary results showabout 80% improvement in sleep
scores by using the breakoutduring the day and at night,
before they go to sleep.
And the first thing we had to doby the way, this was Australia.
So we had to get them to stopdrinking in the morning because
they were drinking before theywere going to work.
And of course that influenceseverything.
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But in the process of all this,what we found was that when they
use the headset, it happened,actually you let, they only,
they only had to listen aminimum of one time, a day to
get the same results that peoplethat we had in the study that
we're listening to the audioonly, they, they all got to the
same place after six weeks, butthe people in the audio only had
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to listen to it three times aday to get the same results as
the headset.
So you can do it without theheadset.
It just takes a little bitlonger cause sound again, we're
not engaging as much of thenervous system in the training.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Got it.
Got it.
Okay.
Well, you know, we we've, we'vetalked about, we've talked about
sleep, we've talked about, um,you know, meditation and, and
those types of things.
And, and so we know that, youknow, we're, we're talking about
, uh, the, you know, moving yourbody, getting good sleep, all of
those things, we know thatthere's, um, you know, most,
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most people that stay in age,they don't get the adequate
amount of those things.
And it causes people to be justkind of relatively unhealthy.
It causes us to, to, um, bestressed, stressed out and, you
know, mental illnesses is such athing right now.
And so like, uh, let's talkabout the other ways that the
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brain tap can, can help.
I mean, if we talk about like,you know, quitting habits like
smoking and things like that,um, can you, can you give a
little insight into how thatworks?
Like how the therapy works and
Speaker 4 (14:01):
There's a really good book out called finding your
perfect hi, it's by JohnMarshall.
And he talks about the reasonpeople get addicted is because
their is not balanced.
And I have to agree with them onthat.
So the first thing is mostpeople don't get high to get
high.
They get high to get normal, youknow, especially the addicts.
They think that's the normalstate.
(14:23):
So what we do first of all, iswe need to, we need to take away
the stigma that people have.
Like if you stand up at ameeting and say, I'm an
alcoholic, that's an affirmationof truth.
So your body has to prove thatyou're an alcoholic.
What is an alcoholic?
He basically gets drunk shirts,his responsibilities, and does
all these other things.
And not that people arepredisposed to that.
(14:45):
But the reality is that no,one's a behavior.
That's the number one law ofpsychology.
So you can't be a behavior.
So you can't be a smoker.
You can't be overweight.
Your body can be overweight, butyou can.
So the first thing is we do iswe have to change the way they
frame themselves.
We are infinite beings with thepotential that is unlimited.
The only limits we have are whatwe hold in consciousness.
(15:06):
So, but if we believe that whenwe walked by the candy bars,
just looking at them, regainweight, guess what the stress
from one event is this fatteningas a, as a candy bar, you heard
me, right?
Your liver produces as muchsugar as a candy bar from one
stressfully bed.
So if you talk your, if you, ifyou get stressed out because you
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didn't meet the candy bar, andyou're worried about a bottle
book, you're actually creatingmore sugar.
And if you would've just takethe candy bar, you know, the, so
the thing is that it's abalance.
So we also find that the brainneeds to be in these alpha beta
states, more to problem solve.
And when you're addicted, you'rean adult limine state or a beta
state.
So when you're driven by youraddiction, you have to stay on
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red alert.
You have to stay on vigilant.
And basically it locks you outof your solution.
So an addiction is having onesolution for an infinite number
of problems, you know, in thatmeans the only thing you can do
is have a cigarette let's say,or the only thing you can do is
go get sugar.
The only thing you can do is goget alcohol, because that's your
only solution.
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If we can give them more thanone solution, they'll never
choose the other woman.
We always make the number onebest solutions.
What I'm trying to say, but ifwe only have one solution, and
that's the only one that weknow, then we have to change.
That's why you NAA.
They have a saying, you have tohave a change of the mind.
They call it a psychic change,but it means changing your mind.
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You have to change the way youthink about yourself.
Um, and that's why, you know, I,I'm not a big believer in people
being alcoholics.
I'm a big believer that peoplecan't handle alcohol.
I mean, nobody can, so you justhave to figure out, I mean, when
they could take professionaldrivers and give them three
drinks and they just can't makeit through a obstacle course
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that tells me that nobody canhandle alcohol.
But if you do, you've gotta besafe.
You gotta be, you know, yougotta be home.
Maybe you gotta do something toslow down that sugar effect.
There's a lot of ways you canhack to drink alcohol, but it's
just playing games withyourself.
You know, the easiest thing isjust say, no, but that's what
people don't do.
So what we do with, with theaddiction programs is we give
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them alternatives becausethere's a saying, if you do
something, once that's anaddiction, you know, if you do,
if you have two choices, youhave a dilemma.
So it's either this or that.
But if you have three, now youhave choices.
So we need to give them choices.
Like when they come up againstthe wall or they get stressed,
mostly these things aretriggered or brought to the
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surface because of somephysiological event that either
they made up or they allowed tohappen from the outside.
You know, the old saying thatlife begins when the egg is
cracked from the inside, butlife is destroyed when it's
cracked from the outside.
So these people are living theirlife in the outside in they're
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letting the world dictate howthey should be or what they
should look like, how they dothings.
And an externally motivatedperson is never very successful,
but an internally motivatedperson will become highly
motivated because it's theirchoice and they're doing it
because of their own volition.
So we try to get people tobecome, basically I tell people
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we're a gateway drug to theself-help industry because
people will come to us with aproblem.
Once they solve it, they go,wow, I've got this powerful
brain.
What else can I change about mylife?
What else can I improve?
And can I go help other peopleimprove?
Because it's a better world wheneverybody's getting better,
rather than wallowing in theirpity, you know, having a pity
party and all of that,
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Not only does it, does it help them with whatever
they're trying to overcome, butthen it, it then motivates them
to go even farther than that.
And, and also to help others.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And it gives the physiologically, it gives you an
advantage at fighting chance,right?
Like addicts, it's aphysiological addiction.
Um, it's also a mental.
So w when, when they're at aplace where, Hey, I want to make
a change.
I want to beat this, whetherit's smoking, or you're saying
from your experience as wellwith, even with the app, like
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it's, it's for alcohol.
Um, and then, and then you getyour body in a place where it
can overcome and change andrewire, rewire the neural
pathways, because we know the,the, the plasticity of the
brain, right.
And, and how we have thatability.
Um, have you had some severecases of, of addictions that
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you, that you've seen that maybethey thought would never, they'd
never kick the habit, but it
Speaker 4 (19:33):
There's a group in Provo, Utah, that's doing some
really fantastic work withaddictions, and they do a amino
acid therapy for the brain.
And what we found out was whensomebody is doing this IB
therapy, looking at their phoneor doing the brain cap session,
did they actually absorb 30%more of the nutrients while
they're doing brain tap, ratherthan looking at their phone
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because their phone causes themdistress out while there the
brain causes them to turn onparasympathetics.
And we see every day, I mean,we've had, I wrote the program
actually for DUIs, for the stateof Arizona back in the eighties,
and for three years, because heused my program for second time
offenders in what we were tryingto show them was we call it
hidden solutions because thesolutions inside you, you know,
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if we can, if we can unlock thatsolution, you know, in give you
choices.
So we've had, I mean, we've had,there was just a person I met in
Phoenix, actually at an eventwho came to the event and wanted
to thank me.
It was, he did it, but he saidthat he was on the streets and
somebody had invited the manthere to clinic and said, Hey,
we're doing these sessions ofBrainTap.
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And he came in and he liked himand said, can I come back?
He went from being on thestreets to getting a job.
He's now he went back to sellingRDS.
And now he's one of the topsalesman of RVs in Tucson,
Arizona.
And this is a guy that couldhardly walk before because of
his addictions and things likethat.
I mean, he would just pass outand, and then his body was going
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to hell fast because the bodydoesn't function well, and all
you're digesting is alcohol.
So you got to get the body backgoing, but we've had, I think
our most, uh, I mean, we've hadsuch fantastic results over the
time.
One of my favorite storiesactually was a woman who came to
see us.
Her doctor told her she had sixweeks to live.
And so I did the intake, whetherit, I said, well, you need to
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get your doctor to approve youto do this therapy, because he's
telling you only have six weeksto live.
I don't want your family oranybody to think I'm just taking
money from you.
She went back to the doctor andthe doctor said, she thought, he
thought it was a waste of timethat she shouldn't do it, but
she decided to do it anyway.
So I said, well, it's yourchoice.
You know, you can do it, but Ijust want to make sure we
document that we had to go toyour doctor.
And I said, the first thing Iwant you to do is set up
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appointments for the next nineweeks.
She said, what do you mean?
I said, I said the next nineweeks, but it set up
appointments.
She goes, well, I'm onlysupposed to live for six weeks.
I said, no, that was hisdiagnosis.
You get a whole new body withinnine weeks.
Pretty much.
I mean, about 80% of your bodyis rebuilt.
I said, nobody knows who you'regoing to be in nine weeks.
So let's plan on you beinghealthy in magazines.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You'd think that alone, just that, that hearing
that and that mental shift thatcould happen just in that
message could do a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah.
We're used to be pigeonholed inour, you know, medical and
another, since institutions andpeople think you can't change.
And I just love that you weretaking a stance against that.
We are allowed to grow and makemistakes as human beings.
And
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, I mean, there's been studies that show different
personalities in the same body.
One personality has a sugar, youknow, has diabetes and the other
personality.
It doesn't.
So just the rewiring of thebrain at that level, they say
one new thought gets into thebrain.
The whole brain has to rewire aconstellation of events around
that one new thought.
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So that's what we callneuroplasticity, right?
So if we can get those newideas, those new concepts in
there, the brain will rewirearound your new opportunities.
And just so the listeners knowthat we'll live in which you
went back to the Mayo clinic,which he was going to, he said
they misdiagnosed
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And we believe in, you gotta be your own best
doctor,
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Your own, your advocate.
You gotta be your own
Speaker 2 (23:25):
And use all the resources, use all of them,
including I think brain tap.
And this isn't a winding uparound winding down.
I want to keep going a littlebit.
I'd love.
I'd love to understand, youknow, I am familiar with
hypnosis, not just as thesideshow, like, Hey, it's
entertainment.
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Um, I'm familiar with hypnosisas a way to help relax and calm
down.
Just like thinking, okay, myhands are heavy.
And then I think, and then theystart relaxing and then they
feel relaxed.
And
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I also used it to try and, you know, kick habits and,
you know, like with smoking,like they'd been.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yep.
And so exactly my, my questionis how it is, how is BrainTap
using hypnosis in, in the moretreatment focused way?
Not the, not the sideshow way,but which I guess has value too,
but I'm trying to be morehelpful here, right?
How does it,
Speaker 4 (24:18):
We call it, we call it positive psychology, but it's
using the fundamentalsuggestions like hypnosis.
My franchise was actually, I hada franchise with 108 locations
around America was like a gnosisfranchise.
We were the world's largestself-help franchise before I
sold it in 2002.
And we had offices all over.
(24:40):
It was called positive changes.
And the, um, we had, um, we werefeatured in people magazine.
We had to, we had sent them overa hundred people.
We could have sent them athousand that had lost half
their way to cap it off for morethan five years.
Because I believe that everybodyit's not about hypnotizing them.
It's about D advertising.
Everyone has their, they're alladvertised into believing
(25:03):
certain things about themselves.
And really if we take away allof those misconceptions and we
reveal to them that they are aninfinite being with potential
beyond their wildest dreams,that they can do things that
others only imagined.
And they're here by divineappointment.
Then life starts to get reallygood.
But if they believe this is achance universe that I was born
(25:26):
in the wrong family, I was takenhome from, with the wrong
family, from birth.
I was supposed to be born with asilver spoon in my mouth.
I wasn't supposed to have towork or anything.
You know, the reality is that welearn outside of our comfort
zone, not inside of it.
And if people start to realizethat, but hypnosis gives us a
way.
I kind of think about it likenine Stein's famous quote, where
(25:46):
he said you can't solve aproblem on the same level that
it was created.
You have to go to the problemstate and then return to the
problem with the solution inmind.
That's really my definition ofhypnosis because in that world,
between what I like to saybetween the tick and the talk of
the clock in that world, we callthe quantum void where
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everything is still a wave andnot this particle reality that
we live in.
All things are possible.
And that's why I teach hypnosisactually in NLP at quantum
university, because we takequantum physics and we make it
about psychology.
It's quantum positivepsychology, but part of those
courses are learning languagepatterns, learning the power of
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hypnosis.
And one thing for the listenersthat are kind of confused about
what hypnosis is hypnosis hasgot a lot of misconceptions
because it's, it's reallydependent upon the therapist,
right?
So the therapist is good thatthe hypnosis is good at the
therapist.
Isn't good.
So, but the reality is like anytherapy.
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But when we, if we took thebrain state of somebody in
hypnosis, somebody in prayer,somebody doing brain tap, there
probably wouldn't be very muchdifference.
The only difference would bewith the brain jet user, we'd
have a full spectrum.
Brainwave.
The others would be in aspecific beta or alpha
brainwave.
It'd be singular.
So the biggest thing we're doingis we're expanding the brain's
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capacity to handle information,but the brain states the
relaxation in the body.
I Al I always tell people, Isaid, you are probably
hypnotized if your body wasasleep, but your mind stayed
awake.
Most people think the mind'sasleep with the body, but it
isn't under hypnosis.
Your mind should be awake andalert and your body is asleep.
So you get more acts.
We call discretionary access tothe subconscious.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah, I mean, so you're saying in brain app
BrainTap app, we use hypnosis,hypnosis is used, but it's not,
it's, it's just a part of it.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
We don't use the formula deductions.
Like you would see in hypnosis.
I know how to do those, butthat's not because the machine
does it.
The light and sound is doing thealtered state.
It's creating a state ofchanging brainwave states.
So, and it's training the brainto do it.
Where in hypnosis, we'redependent, we're depending upon
either our own self hypnosis, ifwe're doing that really all
(28:09):
hypnosis is self-hypnosis, but,or somebody else's guiding us
through that process, you know,that in itself using language to
do that is very similar to whatright.
Have.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So it's not as hard brain taps, not as hard, but you
get the benefits of hypnosis andjust like meditation, you get
the benefits since now.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah.
And is it, is it, is it, I dunno, maybe this makes sense or it
doesn't, but is it more precisein terms of getting you into the
right brain states, Then like atypical hypnosis session with a,
Speaker 4 (28:40):
If you came to our grain cap lab in new Bern, North
Carolina, which you're bothinvited to, um, you would see a
classroom where we have 10chairs.
We know that when some, whenthat class is going through a
break session, everybody's brainis at the same frequency at the
same time, going down and comingback up.
So when we do like creativitysessions and everybody's problem
(29:03):
solving at the same level of themind, they come back, we get
some really creative thingshappen.
So we use it for all sorts ofthings, but we can synchronize
the brains of everybody in theroom, because they're all
experiencing the same stimulusat the same time.
And we could measure them all.
We've done it before.
They're all going through thatsame physiological effect at the
same time.
And I know that it works forevery person every time after
(29:26):
the third visit.
Now, sometimes it won't happenat the first time.
It might not happen with thesecond time, but by the time
you're listening to the thirdtime the brain learns the
method.
It starts to follow.
That's the frequency followresponse I was talking about.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Wow.
Okay.
So it, so it gets used to, it,it, it kind of acclimates to,
oh, I know what this is.
I'm familiar with it.
I'll go along.
I'll play along.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
How does somebody know what programs they need to
start using when they downloadthe brain tap app?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, we have to get started first.
They can start with that.
But then there, we have amsessions or wake up sessions and
we have sleep sessions.
So those are prettyself-explanatory.
The other is symptom specific.
So you can type in any thingthat's going on with you and the
brain tap app will bring up, uh,suggestions for you to get that
outcome.
So if you put in stress, forinstance, or you put in pain, or
(30:21):
you put in worry, uh, those arethere.
But if you want to follow someof our protocols, you can see
like, worry me.
It's designed to help you toeliminate stress, frustration,
anxiety, depression, those kindsof things, because that's the
sequence it's going to train thebrain to get you out of those
states.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And w what point would I order the, the headset
and goggles?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Well, most people after they do the, if you find
results with the audio lonely,you'll be blown away with what
happens when you use the lightheadset, because it's going to
put, it's going to up, it'sgoing to upgrade what you were
experiencing, because you'regoing to get the same thing the
sound is doing, but now thelight's doing it as well.
So you're going to get more ofan immersion experience where
(31:04):
you basically, it feels like, uh, we, we call it, uh, island
time experience like you hear,hello.
This is Dr.
Patrick Porter.
And then you hear eyes open,wide awake, and you don't know
what happened in between there,but if we were measuring your
brain activity, you wereactually training your brain
during that time.
But you were able to disengageall that stress offloaded and
wake up almost as if you had anight's sleep.
(31:27):
That's typically, if you can getthat kind of experience with
just the sound, you'll evenmaximize that with the lights,
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Because the light is a, it's a, it's a different type
of frequency or a differentfrequency than, than the audio.
And just say,
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Well, that's, what's happening in the right ear.
What's happening at the rightear is happening in the left eye
and vice versa.
So we're balancing thehemisphere using light and
sound.
And pretty soon the brainactually creates a field that
you, it, it creates its ownfield of energy.
If you will, that you occupy,that's kind of, for lack of a
better word.
(32:01):
It feels like you're in anotherdimension, but you're still
here.
You can, you still know you'resitting in the seat or whatever,
but you're like, because yourbody creates the, all these
neuro-transmitters when that'shappening, you get, you get high
on your own supply, just likeyou would, if you're doing
breathing exercises, you know,you're, you're triggering those
neuro-transmitters and things ofthat nature.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Got it.
Got it.
So, because I'm a dad, I gottaask this question.
Have you any experience withthese types of treatments or the
app or the headset with kids?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Oh yeah.
If you go on social media andjust put in hashtag brain cap,
you'll see many babies using it.
My favorite is one where she hascolic.
And every time she puts thebrakes on it, stop, the baby
stops crying when she takes itoff, the baby cries puts it back
on snaps, crying because thealgorithm is causing her to get
the bright brain frequency.
Even at that age,
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Does it do it on every crime baby?
I'm going to bring one.
When I travel.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Nope.
In Berkeley, every frame, maybeI never saw it before that we
usually recommend about fouryears old to start because the
brain really isn't, the brain isfully wired when we're born and
unwired as we age.
So they don't really need anytraining of the brain.
But if somebody has a disorderearly and you know that you can
start training their brain toget more of those brainwaves,
(33:15):
even at a banana, you can evenjust play the BrainTap app in
the room where they're sleepingin, they'll get a response.
We have a whole, we have 47different children's series
sessions that teach them thingslike honesty, teamwork, uh,
forgiveness.
There's one.
You might like, it's yourparents that magically know
best.
You know, these are the kinds ofthings where we're teaching them
(33:37):
because we're teaching themthrough stories too.
So I tell metaphoric stories tochildren, but they're getting to
brainwave and coding at the sametime.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh, that is amazing.
The types of groups of peoplethat you're working with.
I mean, what's been mostrewarding for you.
Um, w like, is it likealcoholics?
Is it the children?
What sort of,
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I think seeing autistic children speak is one
of the biggest.
And then We did an experimentand we measured the results of
40 children that were notqualified to do magnetic
resident therapy.
Their parents had already paid$5,000 and they weren't
qualified to do a magneticresident therapy, which cost
(34:19):
about$40,000.
And we, we took a group and wejust did brain tech with them.
At the end of the six week study, the magnetic resident therapy
people had 23% alpha, which isreally good.
We had 21% at the end of sixweeks, we did a wash out at the
end of six weeks.
(34:39):
Our kids still had 21% of alpha.
Every one of the kids that didmega resident therapy were right
back to where they were.
It didn't stick because theydidn't train their brain to do
anything.
All they did was they had, theyhad exposed them to a magnetic
radiation, which caused thebrain to produce more alcohol.
But once they heal that part ofthe brain, it just went back.
(35:02):
And so what we found in, ifsomebody out there has an
autistic child, it's not justbrain tap.
So they were doing things withthe metronome they were doing.
They were doing infrared saunas.
Um, they were doing, they werewith a speech coach that we work
with, Dr.
Joe Quita handy.
She's out of orange county,California, and she's probably
(35:22):
done the most research we'veever seen with autism.
And we found out about itbecause she was a student of
mine at quantum university.
And she started ordering a lotof BrainTap.
And so our shipping departmentsaid, do you need to call this
doctor?
She's ordering a lot ofBrainTap.
So I called her up and she says,oh yeah.
She says, at first, I didn'tthink this thing was worth
anything.
I didn't even use it, but my, myown sons was having trouble in
(35:46):
school.
So I had him start using theBrainTap.
It changed his whole outlook onschool.
He started accelerating doingreally well.
So I thought, why can't I usethis on the kids?
So she started experimentingwith the kids that were
autistic, and she said, theparents wouldn't leave until
they got to buy one to take homebecause the kids were just pass
out, you know, for 10 minutesand they couldn't get them to
calm down.
(36:06):
And then afterwards, for therest of the day, we call it
brain prep.
Now.
So what they do is they use itin the morning to get their
brain ready to learn.
And that's how it all started.
And we have a school in Indiait's called the creative school.
They actually have a brain capin every classroom, and they
have a 12 station, brain tappingroom for their soccer team.
That way, if the kids have anyissues in the classroom, any
(36:27):
stress they can choose to goback and pick out any session
they want.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Are you working with other school systems?
I mean, I'm just like, I want toget this in Scott's kids school.
I want to know.
I mean, I want to get it, butyeah.
What are you doing with this?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, we do.
We do a lot with schools.
We just hired a researchassistant who was helping us
with the school in Craven countyhere in, uh, Newburgh.
But we have three schools.
We're doing research projectswith here at the high school
level, but we're open to workingwith them.
So find out what you can, we'lltalk and see if we can do
something with them and get themstarted.
We usually start with a littlepilot program and then we go
(37:03):
from there.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
So autism, anything, any other kind of impact that
you've seen in a certain segmentof our population?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
We get a dementia study, um, that we did with
women, 55, 65.
And they were all documenteddementia cases from the MDs that
they went to six weeks afterusing brain cat three times a
day, they had a 49%neuroplasticity score increased.
They had 58% reorganizationskill increase.
(37:33):
They no longer took theCambridge science testing.
They're no longer the dementiascale.
This pilot program is so amazingthat now, uh, a college in
Florida has taken it up.
We're getting 50 people into astudy so that we can get it
published five people in thepreliminary study.
Weren't good enough.
Although we did havesignificance, I mean, duke
(37:55):
university, which is a partnerof ours, looked over the data
and said, this is fantastic.
Let's do a bigger study so wecan show the world.
But when the brain gets lightsound and vibration, and it gets
more blood clots, circulation,memory improves, concentration,
cognitive thought, these are allthe things that can happen
because the brain is the centralcontroller of all things.
So in the body.
So we work with that.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So you have used technology as a way to heal many
people in our world and in apositive and productive way
towards change.
You're a healer, you know, that,what has it been like for you to
touch so many people?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Well, for me, anytime I've tried to get out of this
business, it's never worked forme and I've tried twice because
I've sold off a business or donesomething else.
And I just found that when I'mof service to people and you
know, it's not just a cliche forme, I love this.
This is what I used to do and Ididn't get paid.
So it's something I love to do.
And I find that when I'm doingit, I'm more of who I am.
(38:54):
Um, you know, that's the way Ifeel.
And I feel that energy is freelygiven and there's an infinite
flow of it.
So the more energy I can give,the more I actually get, because
life happens through me, not tome.
You know?
So the, in that keeps me goingin, of course, I'm not going to
help everybody because everybodyhas their own free will, but if
you're willing to come along inthe ride, at least for now, I
(39:16):
think I have a solution that canhelp you de-stress and get
motivated in your life and getyour, your health back to the
place you want it to be.
As far as your nervous system isconcerned.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
That's, that's awesome.
Uh, that it's a great work thatyou're doing, and it's very cool
technology and really greatinsight that you've given us
into the human brain and whatthe possibilities are.
So Patrick, would, we just wantto say, thank you for being on
the podcast.
This was so much fun and, uh,good luck in everything that
you're doing.
Could you just let us know wherepeople can find out about brain
(39:49):
tap, um, find out about you,maybe a website, social media,
anything like that?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
If they can, they can find out what I'm up to and what
grade gets up to.
We have a lot of, I share a lotof knowledge on my site at Dr.
Patrick Porter.
So at Dr.
Patrick Porter is my socialmedia handles, or they can go to
Dr.
Patrick porter.com to mywebsite.
And there they'll find linkswhere they can get the app for
free for a trial.
If they want to try it there,they can find out all the
(40:16):
research that's there.
There's also a page that showswhere I'm going to be at around
the country, because now we'reback traveling.
Hopefully that will continue.
I'm going to be in Florida quitea bit.
I was just in California forthree weeks, so they can find
out where we're going to be atand come out and see us.
We can even measure theirnervous system that they show up
so we can show them what's goingon.
All right.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Fantastic.
Thank you again.
We appreciate it.
Thank
Speaker 4 (40:37):
You.
All right.
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Speaker 2 (04:28):
Okay.
So how does the, you candownload the brain tap app now
and listen to the sessions, butisn't there a headset and I
Googled toggles.
You wear on your face.
Like it looks so Saifai, we'll,we'll share, uh, an image of it,
but
Speaker 4 (04:45):
So what's happening there is.
Yep.
Yeah.
So what's happening that thelights in the eyes, people
always ask us that, why do youhave lights in the eyes?
Well, the eyes are just attachedto the brain.
They are brain matter.
So when you tell somebody youhave beautiful eyes, you're
really saying, Hey, I gotbeautiful brain.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah.
It used to feed the primordialbrain, the eyeballs, where is
the brain?
It's the only exposed area ofthe brain in our current state.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
So if we want to bring energy into the brain
because we need ATP production.
So that's what light does.
So the body absorbs the light inthrough photo.
Biomodulation it circulates tothe brain and helps to heal.
We also do that through thelights in the ears, but the
lights in the ears are actually,they're both flashing.
They both have there's twofunctions to light.
(05:29):
One is the nanometers, whichmeans the link, the, the unit of
light that how far can penetratewith the body, for instance,
blue is very minimal.
Red is much further.
Infrared can go right throughthe body.
So the body goat absorbs thesewomen.
The cell is full of energy.
It just basically reflects thatlight back.
You don't get any more and youjust absorb it.
(05:51):
So what we're doing with thelight is we're broadcasting
frequency with light.
So in the ears broadcast, evenNojay frequency to turn off
sympathetic overload and turn onup FedEx.
And we did this first withautistic children that couldn't
understand, or we didn't thinkthey could understand what we're
saying.
We found out later, they didunderstand.
They just couldn't communicateit back to us.
(06:12):
But what we did was we weretraining their brains only by
lights out of vibration, notwords.
And 90% of these children in thestudy were speaking within 30
days because our vocal cordsonly think of every brainwave,
like a wifi network for thebody.
That's healthy.
If we don't have alpha, one ofthe things that it controls
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among the many other things, itcontrols speech.
So autistic children don't havea lot of alpha.
That's why they stem, whichmeans they're when they're
quaking, their body startsquaking they're at high beta, or
when they become disassociated.
That's when they're in high beta, they're just totally unplugged
in the world because data's avery small bandwidth just before
sleep.
So you don't really operate inthat zone very often, but these
(06:59):
kids would flip the switch.
They'd either be in high beta orhigh beta, and they had no alpha
, but as soon as we've got analpha, they could then mitigate
that energy flow through thebody.
So think of brainwaves as a waythat we create flow through the
body, as far as energy and inAfrica.
And that light, the big reasonwe started using light before
all this that we learned isNora, which is a group called
(07:22):
neural ophthalmology researchassociation.
I started working with thembecause they, some of their
research I read hearing is 30%with your eyes.
So if you've ever been to alecture, you couldn't hear the
lecture, but then you moved yourawareness.
So you could see the lecture.
Then you could hear them that'sbecause that's what triggers the
receptors that are ears to thatpiece of information is
(07:45):
important because our eyes areseeing it.
And it's just the same thing.
If you're ever doing now that wehave all these online meetings,
when somebody turns off thevideo and you're listening, it's
this whole different experiencethat seeing them, then, you know
what I mean?
So when you see them, you'reengaging more of the brain.
That's why people find it sohard to meditate on their own.
(08:05):
Because as soon as you closeyour eyes, you've just shut down
30% of your brain function.
So the brain thinks it's time togo to sleep, but that's not
meditation.
Meditation is actually keepingyour frontal lobe active, alert,
and awake.
And that's why it takes so longfor people to learn, to do it on
their own and do it effectively.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And BrainTap does that offer a hack into
meditation?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Oh yeah.
I mean, we can take, I I'vebeen, I've had the privilege of
being in India, actually havinggurus use BrainTap in measuring
their brains.
Pre-imposed we were able to movethe brains of gurus because not
that they couldn't do it ontheir own, but they were part of
the experiment and we showedthem just by letting go
relaxing.
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We could have some of that,never meditated get the same
brain scan as a girl who's beenmeditating for 40 years and it
didn't take a week.
It took 20 minutes of during abreakout session.
Now
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You measured heart rate variability again, before
and after.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Sure.
The HRV, we also measured ECG.
We also measured EEG.
So there's three differentmeasurements that they all
correlate together to say, Hey,what is the state of this
person's nervous system?
And that's where we're figuringit out.
Now I can tell you right nowthat some gurus didn't even test
very well.
So we could kind of figure outwhose system was working for the
nervous system who wasn't.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
So they're really not a guru.
They're the hack of a guru.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There, they found a way to getpaid, to do what they love,
which is do nothing.
So, you know, but those are theones that are really in a state
of bliss and harmony.
One of the best scans we everdid was actually a follower of a
guru that was in such bliss.
I mean, this guy is just runningaround so happy.
He'd been with his guru all day.
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We measured him.
He just knocked the charts.
I mean, he was just incredible.
We usually don't see that.
Usually when we measure, we'vemeasured about 30,000 brains
over the last 10 years.
And I would say that primarilymost brains are tired,
exhausted.
And they're primarily in thestate of Delta, which tells us
they have a lot of inflammationor they've had a brain injury.
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So that's what we're seeing.
I mean, in fact, at trade shows,we did an average, the average
brain scan is 70% Delta at atrade show, which is not good.
You're supposed to be awake,alert and learning at a trade
show.
But these guys, they want theirbrain to go to sleep.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Yeah.
It explains a lot about us, ourbot, our world right now, you
know, I mean, um, so the sleep,so the app, you download it and
you can, you don't wear thegoggles or the headset for
sleep.
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
You can, if you want.
But 20% of the people will have20% of the people might have a
problem.
Like even my wife, who's beendoing this since the eighties.
Uh, she can't do a light sessionafter six o'clock.
She can't drink coffee after twoo'clock or she'll be up all
night.
So if you have a nervous systemthat can handle caffeine, that's
usually a good sign that youshouldn't use the lights at
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night because your nervoussystem is so full of energy.
It's like having a company can'tput any more water into it, you
know, because we're giving youenergy and we want the body to
slow down and basically be tiredwhen you go to sleep.
Right.
You want to be able to slip intothat Delta state in and go
through those cycles withoutwaking up.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So.
Sure.
So then you, when do you putthe, I want to know about the
helmet, how does it cause you, Ijust want our listeners to know
you can download the free appand use the, the different
sleep.
There's a relaxation.
Um, and then all different sortof benefits.
And then you can also get bypurchase the equipment and then
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the helmet and the goggles.
And then it enhances us as this.
Am I understanding that
Speaker 4 (11:48):
The differences that light will get you there faster?
One of the studies we just didwith, uh, these were coal miners
that spend their whole life inthe dark.
They go to sleep.
When they go to work, when it'sdark, they leave.
When it's dark, there were 12hours in the mind.
So we thought these would be theperfect people to do a brain tap
study for sleep.
And we, we, when that studycomes out, we're just
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formulating all of the data.
But the preliminary results showabout 80% improvement in sleep
scores by using the breakoutduring the day and at night,
before they go to sleep.
And the first thing we had to doby the way, this was Australia.
So we had to get them to stopdrinking in the morning because
they were drinking before theywere going to work.
And of course that influenceseverything.
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But in the process of all this,what we found was that when they
use the headset, it happened,actually you let, they only,
they only had to listen aminimum of one time, a day to
get the same results that peoplethat we had in the study that
we're listening to the audioonly, they, they all got to the
same place after six weeks, butthe people in the audio only had
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to listen to it three times aday to get the same results as
the headset.
So you can do it without theheadset.
It just takes a little bitlonger cause sound again, we're
not engaging as much of thenervous system in the training.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Got it.
Got it.
Okay.
Well, you know, we we've, we'vetalked about, we've talked about
sleep, we've talked about, um,you know, meditation and, and
those types of things.
And, and so we know that, youknow, we're, we're talking about
, uh, the, you know, moving yourbody, getting good sleep, all of
those things, we know thatthere's, um, you know, most,
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most people that stay in age,they don't get the adequate
amount of those things.
And it causes people to be justkind of relatively unhealthy.
It causes us to, to, um, bestressed, stressed out and, you
know, mental illnesses is such athing right now.
And so like, uh, let's talkabout the other ways that the
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brain tap can, can help.
I mean, if we talk about like,you know, quitting habits like
smoking and things like that,um, can you, can you give a
little insight into how thatworks?
Like how the therapy works and
Speaker 4 (14:01):
There's a really good book out called finding your
perfect hi, it's by JohnMarshall.
And he talks about the reasonpeople get addicted is because
their is not balanced.
And I have to agree with them onthat.
So the first thing is mostpeople don't get high to get
high.
They get high to get normal, youknow, especially the addicts.
They think that's the normalstate.
(14:23):
So what we do first of all, iswe need to, we need to take away
the stigma that people have.
Like if you stand up at ameeting and say, I'm an
alcoholic, that's an affirmationof truth.
So your body has to prove thatyou're an alcoholic.
What is an alcoholic?
He basically gets drunk shirts,his responsibilities, and does
all these other things.
And not that people arepredisposed to that.
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But the reality is that no,one's a behavior.
That's the number one law ofpsychology.
So you can't be a behavior.
So you can't be a smoker.
You can't be overweight.
Your body can be overweight, butyou can.
So the first thing is we do iswe have to change the way they
frame themselves.
We are infinite beings with thepotential that is unlimited.
The only limits we have are whatwe hold in consciousness.
(15:06):
So, but if we believe that whenwe walked by the candy bars,
just looking at them, regainweight, guess what the stress
from one event is this fatteningas a, as a candy bar, you heard
me, right?
Your liver produces as muchsugar as a candy bar from one
stressfully bed.
So if you talk your, if you, ifyou get stressed out because you
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didn't meet the candy bar, andyou're worried about a bottle
book, you're actually creatingmore sugar.
And if you would've just takethe candy bar, you know, the, so
the thing is that it's abalance.
So we also find that the brainneeds to be in these alpha beta
states, more to problem solve.
And when you're addicted, you'rean adult limine state or a beta
state.
So when you're driven by youraddiction, you have to stay on
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red alert.
You have to stay on vigilant.
And basically it locks you outof your solution.
So an addiction is having onesolution for an infinite number
of problems, you know, in thatmeans the only thing you can do
is have a cigarette let's say,or the only thing you can do is
go get sugar.
The only thing you can do is goget alcohol, because that's your
only solution.
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If we can give them more thanone solution, they'll never
choose the other woman.
We always make the number onebest solutions.
What I'm trying to say, but ifwe only have one solution, and
that's the only one that weknow, then we have to change.
That's why you NAA.
They have a saying, you have tohave a change of the mind.
They call it a psychic change,but it means changing your mind.
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You have to change the way youthink about yourself.
Um, and that's why, you know, I,I'm not a big believer in people
being alcoholics.
I'm a big believer that peoplecan't handle alcohol.
I mean, nobody can, so you justhave to figure out, I mean, when
they could take professionaldrivers and give them three
drinks and they just can't makeit through a obstacle course
(16:53):
that tells me that nobody canhandle alcohol.
But if you do, you've gotta besafe.
You gotta be, you know, yougotta be home.
Maybe you gotta do something toslow down that sugar effect.
There's a lot of ways you canhack to drink alcohol, but it's
just playing games withyourself.
You know, the easiest thing isjust say, no, but that's what
people don't do.
So what we do with, with theaddiction programs is we give
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them alternatives becausethere's a saying, if you do
something, once that's anaddiction, you know, if you do,
if you have two choices, youhave a dilemma.
So it's either this or that.
But if you have three, now youhave choices.
So we need to give them choices.
Like when they come up againstthe wall or they get stressed,
mostly these things aretriggered or brought to the
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surface because of somephysiological event that either
they made up or they allowed tohappen from the outside.
You know, the old saying thatlife begins when the egg is
cracked from the inside, butlife is destroyed when it's
cracked from the outside.
So these people are living theirlife in the outside in they're
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letting the world dictate howthey should be or what they
should look like, how they dothings.
And an externally motivatedperson is never very successful,
but an internally motivatedperson will become highly
motivated because it's theirchoice and they're doing it
because of their own volition.
So we try to get people tobecome, basically I tell people
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we're a gateway drug to theself-help industry because
people will come to us with aproblem.
Once they solve it, they go,wow, I've got this powerful
brain.
What else can I change about mylife?
What else can I improve?
And can I go help other peopleimprove?
Because it's a better world wheneverybody's getting better,
rather than wallowing in theirpity, you know, having a pity
party and all of that,
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Not only does it, does it help them with whatever
they're trying to overcome, butthen it, it then motivates them
to go even farther than that.
And, and also to help others.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
And it gives the physiologically, it gives you an
advantage at fighting chance,right?
Like addicts, it's aphysiological addiction.
Um, it's also a mental.
So w when, when they're at aplace where, Hey, I want to make
a change.
I want to beat this, whetherit's smoking, or you're saying
from your experience as wellwith, even with the app, like
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it's, it's for alcohol.
Um, and then, and then you getyour body in a place where it
can overcome and change andrewire, rewire the neural
pathways, because we know the,the, the plasticity of the
brain, right.
And, and how we have thatability.
Um, have you had some severecases of, of addictions that
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you, that you've seen that maybethey thought would never, they'd
never kick the habit, but it
Speaker 4 (19:33):
There's a group in Provo, Utah, that's doing some
really fantastic work withaddictions, and they do a amino
acid therapy for the brain.
And what we found out was whensomebody is doing this IB
therapy, looking at their phoneor doing the brain cap session,
did they actually absorb 30%more of the nutrients while
they're doing brain tap, ratherthan looking at their phone
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because their phone causes themdistress out while there the
brain causes them to turn onparasympathetics.
And we see every day, I mean,we've had, I wrote the program
actually for DUIs, for the stateof Arizona back in the eighties,
and for three years, because heused my program for second time
offenders in what we were tryingto show them was we call it
hidden solutions because thesolutions inside you, you know,
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if we can, if we can unlock thatsolution, you know, in give you
choices.
So we've had, I mean, we've had,there was just a person I met in
Phoenix, actually at an eventwho came to the event and wanted
to thank me.
It was, he did it, but he saidthat he was on the streets and
somebody had invited the manthere to clinic and said, Hey,
we're doing these sessions ofBrainTap.
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And he came in and he liked himand said, can I come back?
He went from being on thestreets to getting a job.
He's now he went back to sellingRDS.
And now he's one of the topsalesman of RVs in Tucson,
Arizona.
And this is a guy that couldhardly walk before because of
his addictions and things likethat.
I mean, he would just pass outand, and then his body was going
(21:03):
to hell fast because the bodydoesn't function well, and all
you're digesting is alcohol.
So you got to get the body backgoing, but we've had, I think
our most, uh, I mean, we've hadsuch fantastic results over the
time.
One of my favorite storiesactually was a woman who came to
see us.
Her doctor told her she had sixweeks to live.
And so I did the intake, whetherit, I said, well, you need to
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get your doctor to approve youto do this therapy, because he's
telling you only have six weeksto live.
I don't want your family oranybody to think I'm just taking
money from you.
She went back to the doctor andthe doctor said, she thought, he
thought it was a waste of timethat she shouldn't do it, but
she decided to do it anyway.
So I said, well, it's yourchoice.
You know, you can do it, but Ijust want to make sure we
document that we had to go toyour doctor.
And I said, the first thing Iwant you to do is set up
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appointments for the next nineweeks.
She said, what do you mean?
I said, I said the next nineweeks, but it set up
appointments.
She goes, well, I'm onlysupposed to live for six weeks.
I said, no, that was hisdiagnosis.
You get a whole new body withinnine weeks.
Pretty much.
I mean, about 80% of your bodyis rebuilt.
I said, nobody knows who you'regoing to be in nine weeks.
So let's plan on you beinghealthy in magazines.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You'd think that alone, just that, that hearing
that and that mental shift thatcould happen just in that
message could do a lot.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah.
We're used to be pigeonholed inour, you know, medical and
another, since institutions andpeople think you can't change.
And I just love that you weretaking a stance against that.
We are allowed to grow and makemistakes as human beings.
And
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, I mean, there's been studies that show different
personalities in the same body.
One personality has a sugar, youknow, has diabetes and the other
personality.
It doesn't.
So just the rewiring of thebrain at that level, they say
one new thought gets into thebrain.
The whole brain has to rewire aconstellation of events around
that one new thought.
(22:58):
So that's what we callneuroplasticity, right?
So if we can get those newideas, those new concepts in
there, the brain will rewirearound your new opportunities.
And just so the listeners knowthat we'll live in which you
went back to the Mayo clinic,which he was going to, he said
they misdiagnosed
Speaker 2 (23:18):
And we believe in, you gotta be your own best
doctor,
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Your own, your advocate.
You gotta be your own
Speaker 2 (23:25):
And use all the resources, use all of them,
including I think brain tap.
And this isn't a winding uparound winding down.
I want to keep going a littlebit.
I'd love.
I'd love to understand, youknow, I am familiar with
hypnosis, not just as thesideshow, like, Hey, it's
entertainment.
(23:45):
Um, I'm familiar with hypnosisas a way to help relax and calm
down.
Just like thinking, okay, myhands are heavy.
And then I think, and then theystart relaxing and then they
feel relaxed.
And
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I also used it to try and, you know, kick habits and,
you know, like with smoking,like they'd been.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yep.
And so exactly my, my questionis how it is, how is BrainTap
using hypnosis in, in the moretreatment focused way?
Not the, not the sideshow way,but which I guess has value too,
but I'm trying to be morehelpful here, right?
How does it,
Speaker 4 (24:18):
We call it, we call it positive psychology, but it's
using the fundamentalsuggestions like hypnosis.
My franchise was actually, I hada franchise with 108 locations
around America was like a gnosisfranchise.
We were the world's largestself-help franchise before I
sold it in 2002.
And we had offices all over.
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It was called positive changes.
And the, um, we had, um, we werefeatured in people magazine.
We had to, we had sent them overa hundred people.
We could have sent them athousand that had lost half
their way to cap it off for morethan five years.
Because I believe that everybodyit's not about hypnotizing them.
It's about D advertising.
Everyone has their, they're alladvertised into believing
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certain things about themselves.
And really if we take away allof those misconceptions and we
reveal to them that they are aninfinite being with potential
beyond their wildest dreams,that they can do things that
others only imagined.
And they're here by divineappointment.
Then life starts to get reallygood.
But if they believe this is achance universe that I was born
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in the wrong family, I was takenhome from, with the wrong
family, from birth.
I was supposed to be born with asilver spoon in my mouth.
I wasn't supposed to have towork or anything.
You know, the reality is that welearn outside of our comfort
zone, not inside of it.
And if people start to realizethat, but hypnosis gives us a
way.
I kind of think about it likenine Stein's famous quote, where
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he said you can't solve aproblem on the same level that
it was created.
You have to go to the problemstate and then return to the
problem with the solution inmind.
That's really my definition ofhypnosis because in that world,
between what I like to saybetween the tick and the talk of
the clock in that world, we callthe quantum void where
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everything is still a wave andnot this particle reality that
we live in.
All things are possible.
And that's why I teach hypnosisactually in NLP at quantum
university, because we takequantum physics and we make it
about psychology.
It's quantum positivepsychology, but part of those
courses are learning languagepatterns, learning the power of
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hypnosis.
And one thing for the listenersthat are kind of confused about
what hypnosis is hypnosis hasgot a lot of misconceptions
because it's, it's reallydependent upon the therapist,
right?
So the therapist is good thatthe hypnosis is good at the
therapist.
Isn't good.
So, but the reality is like anytherapy.
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But when we, if we took thebrain state of somebody in
hypnosis, somebody in prayer,somebody doing brain tap, there
probably wouldn't be very muchdifference.
The only difference would bewith the brain jet user, we'd
have a full spectrum.
Brainwave.
The others would be in aspecific beta or alpha
brainwave.
It'd be singular.
So the biggest thing we're doingis we're expanding the brain's
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capacity to handle information,but the brain states the
relaxation in the body.
I Al I always tell people, Isaid, you are probably
hypnotized if your body wasasleep, but your mind stayed
awake.
Most people think the mind'sasleep with the body, but it
isn't under hypnosis.
Your mind should be awake andalert and your body is asleep.
So you get more acts.
We call discretionary access tothe subconscious.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Yeah, I mean, so you're saying in brain app
BrainTap app, we use hypnosis,hypnosis is used, but it's not,
it's, it's just a part of it.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
We don't use the formula deductions.
Like you would see in hypnosis.
I know how to do those, butthat's not because the machine
does it.
The light and sound is doing thealtered state.
It's creating a state ofchanging brainwave states.
So, and it's training the brainto do it.
Where in hypnosis, we'redependent, we're depending upon
either our own self hypnosis, ifwe're doing that really all
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hypnosis is self-hypnosis, but,or somebody else's guiding us
through that process, you know,that in itself using language to
do that is very similar to whatright.
Have.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
So it's not as hard brain taps, not as hard, but you
get the benefits of hypnosis andjust like meditation, you get
the benefits since now.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah.
And is it, is it, is it, I dunno, maybe this makes sense or it
doesn't, but is it more precisein terms of getting you into the
right brain states, Then like atypical hypnosis session with a,
Speaker 4 (28:40):
If you came to our grain cap lab in new Bern, North
Carolina, which you're bothinvited to, um, you would see a
classroom where we have 10chairs.
We know that when some, whenthat class is going through a
break session, everybody's brainis at the same frequency at the
same time, going down and comingback up.
So when we do like creativitysessions and everybody's problem
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solving at the same level of themind, they come back, we get
some really creative thingshappen.
So we use it for all sorts ofthings, but we can synchronize
the brains of everybody in theroom, because they're all
experiencing the same stimulusat the same time.
And we could measure them all.
We've done it before.
They're all going through thatsame physiological effect at the
same time.
And I know that it works forevery person every time after
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the third visit.
Now, sometimes it won't happenat the first time.
It might not happen with thesecond time, but by the time
you're listening to the thirdtime the brain learns the
method.
It starts to follow.
That's the frequency followresponse I was talking about.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Wow.
Okay.
So it, so it gets used to, it,it, it kind of acclimates to,
oh, I know what this is.
I'm familiar with it.
I'll go along.
I'll play along.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
How does somebody know what programs they need to
start using when they downloadthe brain tap app?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Well, we have to get started first.
They can start with that.
But then there, we have amsessions or wake up sessions and
we have sleep sessions.
So those are prettyself-explanatory.
The other is symptom specific.
So you can type in any thingthat's going on with you and the
brain tap app will bring up, uh,suggestions for you to get that
outcome.
So if you put in stress, forinstance, or you put in pain, or
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you put in worry, uh, those arethere.
But if you want to follow someof our protocols, you can see
like, worry me.
It's designed to help you toeliminate stress, frustration,
anxiety, depression, those kindsof things, because that's the
sequence it's going to train thebrain to get you out of those
states.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
And w what point would I order the, the headset
and goggles?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Well, most people after they do the, if you find
results with the audio lonely,you'll be blown away with what
happens when you use the lightheadset, because it's going to
put, it's going to up, it'sgoing to upgrade what you were
experiencing, because you'regoing to get the same thing the
sound is doing, but now thelight's doing it as well.
So you're going to get more ofan immersion experience where
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you basically, it feels like, uh, we, we call it, uh, island
time experience like you hear,hello.
This is Dr.
Patrick Porter.
And then you hear eyes open,wide awake, and you don't know
what happened in between there,but if we were measuring your
brain activity, you wereactually training your brain
during that time.
But you were able to disengageall that stress offloaded and
wake up almost as if you had anight's sleep.
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That's typically, if you can getthat kind of experience with
just the sound, you'll evenmaximize that with the lights,
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Because the light is a, it's a, it's a different type
of frequency or a differentfrequency than, than the audio.
And just say,
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Well, that's, what's happening in the right ear.
What's happening at the rightear is happening in the left eye
and vice versa.
So we're balancing thehemisphere using light and
sound.
And pretty soon the brainactually creates a field that
you, it, it creates its ownfield of energy.
If you will, that you occupy,that's kind of, for lack of a
better word.
(32:01):
It feels like you're in anotherdimension, but you're still
here.
You can, you still know you'resitting in the seat or whatever,
but you're like, because yourbody creates the, all these
neuro-transmitters when that'shappening, you get, you get high
on your own supply, just likeyou would, if you're doing
breathing exercises, you know,you're, you're triggering those
neuro-transmitters and things ofthat nature.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Got it.
Got it.
So, because I'm a dad, I gottaask this question.
Have you any experience withthese types of treatments or the
app or the headset with kids?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Oh yeah.
If you go on social media andjust put in hashtag brain cap,
you'll see many babies using it.
My favorite is one where she hascolic.
And every time she puts thebrakes on it, stop, the baby
stops crying when she takes itoff, the baby cries puts it back
on snaps, crying because thealgorithm is causing her to get
the bright brain frequency.
Even at that age,
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Does it do it on every crime baby?
I'm going to bring one.
When I travel.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Nope.
In Berkeley, every frame, maybeI never saw it before that we
usually recommend about fouryears old to start because the
brain really isn't, the brain isfully wired when we're born and
unwired as we age.
So they don't really need anytraining of the brain.
But if somebody has a disorderearly and you know that you can
start training their brain toget more of those brainwaves,
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even at a banana, you can evenjust play the BrainTap app in
the room where they're sleepingin, they'll get a response.
We have a whole, we have 47different children's series
sessions that teach them thingslike honesty, teamwork, uh,
forgiveness.
There's one.
You might like, it's yourparents that magically know
best.
You know, these are the kinds ofthings where we're teaching them
(33:37):
because we're teaching themthrough stories too.
So I tell metaphoric stories tochildren, but they're getting to
brainwave and coding at the sametime.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh, that is amazing.
The types of groups of peoplethat you're working with.
I mean, what's been mostrewarding for you.
Um, w like, is it likealcoholics?
Is it the children?
What sort of,
Speaker 4 (33:59):
I think seeing autistic children speak is one
of the biggest.
And then We did an experimentand we measured the results of
40 children that were notqualified to do magnetic
resident therapy.
Their parents had already paid$5,000 and they weren't
qualified to do a magneticresident therapy, which cost
(34:19):
about$40,000.
And we, we took a group and wejust did brain tech with them.
At the end of the six week study, the magnetic resident therapy
people had 23% alpha, which isreally good.
We had 21% at the end of sixweeks, we did a wash out at the
end of six weeks.
(34:39):
Our kids still had 21% of alpha.
Every one of the kids that didmega resident therapy were right
back to where they were.
It didn't stick because theydidn't train their brain to do
anything.
All they did was they had, theyhad exposed them to a magnetic
radiation, which caused thebrain to produce more alcohol.
But once they heal that part ofthe brain, it just went back.
(35:02):
And so what we found in, ifsomebody out there has an
autistic child, it's not justbrain tap.
So they were doing things withthe metronome they were doing.
They were doing infrared saunas.
Um, they were doing, they werewith a speech coach that we work
with, Dr.
Joe Quita handy.
She's out of orange county,California, and she's probably
(35:22):
done the most research we'veever seen with autism.
And we found out about itbecause she was a student of
mine at quantum university.
And she started ordering a lotof BrainTap.
And so our shipping departmentsaid, do you need to call this
doctor?
She's ordering a lot ofBrainTap.
So I called her up and she says,oh yeah.
She says, at first, I didn'tthink this thing was worth
anything.
I didn't even use it, but my, myown sons was having trouble in
(35:46):
school.
So I had him start using theBrainTap.
It changed his whole outlook onschool.
He started accelerating doingreally well.
So I thought, why can't I usethis on the kids?
So she started experimentingwith the kids that were
autistic, and she said, theparents wouldn't leave until
they got to buy one to take homebecause the kids were just pass
out, you know, for 10 minutesand they couldn't get them to
calm down.
(36:06):
And then afterwards, for therest of the day, we call it
brain prep.
Now.
So what they do is they use itin the morning to get their
brain ready to learn.
And that's how it all started.
And we have a school in Indiait's called the creative school.
They actually have a brain capin every classroom, and they
have a 12 station, brain tappingroom for their soccer team.
That way, if the kids have anyissues in the classroom, any
(36:27):
stress they can choose to goback and pick out any session
they want.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Are you working with other school systems?
I mean, I'm just like, I want toget this in Scott's kids school.
I want to know.
I mean, I want to get it, butyeah.
What are you doing with this?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Yeah, we do.
We do a lot with schools.
We just hired a researchassistant who was helping us
with the school in Craven countyhere in, uh, Newburgh.
But we have three schools.
We're doing research projectswith here at the high school
level, but we're open to workingwith them.
So find out what you can, we'lltalk and see if we can do
something with them and get themstarted.
We usually start with a littlepilot program and then we go
(37:03):
from there.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
So autism, anything, any other kind of impact that
you've seen in a certain segmentof our population?
Speaker 4 (37:11):
We get a dementia study, um, that we did with
women, 55, 65.
And they were all documenteddementia cases from the MDs that
they went to six weeks afterusing brain cat three times a
day, they had a 49%neuroplasticity score increased.
They had 58% reorganizationskill increase.
(37:33):
They no longer took theCambridge science testing.
They're no longer the dementiascale.
This pilot program is so amazingthat now, uh, a college in
Florida has taken it up.
We're getting 50 people into astudy so that we can get it
published five people in thepreliminary study.
Weren't good enough.
Although we did havesignificance, I mean, duke
(37:55):
university, which is a partnerof ours, looked over the data
and said, this is fantastic.
Let's do a bigger study so wecan show the world.
But when the brain gets lightsound and vibration, and it gets
more blood clots, circulation,memory improves, concentration,
cognitive thought, these are allthe things that can happen
because the brain is the centralcontroller of all things.
So in the body.
So we work with that.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
So you have used technology as a way to heal many
people in our world and in apositive and productive way
towards change.
You're a healer, you know, that,what has it been like for you to
touch so many people?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Well, for me, anytime I've tried to get out of this
business, it's never worked forme and I've tried twice because
I've sold off a business or donesomething else.
And I just found that when I'mof service to people and you
know, it's not just a cliche forme, I love this.
This is what I used to do and Ididn't get paid.
So it's something I love to do.
And I find that when I'm doingit, I'm more of who I am.
(38:54):
Um, you know, that's the way Ifeel.
And I feel that energy is freelygiven and there's an infinite
flow of it.
So the more energy I can give,the more I actually get, because
life happens through me, not tome.
You know?
So the, in that keeps me goingin, of course, I'm not going to
help everybody because everybodyhas their own free will, but if
you're willing to come along inthe ride, at least for now, I
(39:16):
think I have a solution that canhelp you de-stress and get
motivated in your life and getyour, your health back to the
place you want it to be.
As far as your nervous system isconcerned.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
That's, that's awesome.
Uh, that it's a great work thatyou're doing, and it's very cool
technology and really greatinsight that you've given us
into the human brain and whatthe possibilities are.
So Patrick, would, we just wantto say, thank you for being on
the podcast.
This was so much fun and, uh,good luck in everything that
you're doing.
Could you just let us know wherepeople can find out about brain
(39:49):
tap, um, find out about you,maybe a website, social media,
anything like that?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
If they can, they can find out what I'm up to and what
grade gets up to.
We have a lot of, I share a lotof knowledge on my site at Dr.
Patrick Porter.
So at Dr.
Patrick Porter is my socialmedia handles, or they can go to
Dr.
Patrick porter.com to mywebsite.
And there they'll find linkswhere they can get the app for
free for a trial.
If they want to try it there,they can find out all the
(40:16):
research that's there.
There's also a page that showswhere I'm going to be at around
the country, because now we'reback traveling.
Hopefully that will continue.
I'm going to be in Florida quitea bit.
I was just in California forthree weeks, so they can find
out where we're going to be atand come out and see us.
We can even measure theirnervous system that they show up
so we can show them what's goingon.
All right.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Fantastic.
Thank you again.
We appreciate it.
Thank
Speaker 4 (40:37):
You.
All right.
Thank you.
Both
Speaker 2 (40:42):
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Speaker 1 (40:53):
We hope you enjoyed our interview with Dr.
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