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Speaker 1 (00:00):
These three gentlemen
take mental well-being
seriously but are not serious.
They'd rather swear and makeirreverent jokes.
Now that you know the HealyMacon Mints.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hello and welcome to
another episode of we're
Probably Not Okay, the podcastthat makes fun of mental
well-being.
See, no one told you life wasgoing to be this way.
I'm your host for this episode,brandon Full, and with me and
with all of us is Point.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I think that's me.
Is that me, Brandon?
Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I pointed to the
other guy.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Your very best friend
Ryan Brown.
It's funny because we're in adifferent order on every screen.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, yeah, we really
got to figure it out for each
other.
Like I'm going to put a stickerlike this says Brandon's Ryan
and Ryan's Brandon on mycomputer.
Oh my gosh.
So I know Getting into somesuper string theory.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Wait wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Am I below each of
you?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yes, you're below me.
You're this way.
Yeah, you're down here.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Okay, so I'm always
down.
So if you ever, if either ofyou point in a direction that's
not down, you're pointing ateach other.
Yeah, so now I know it's easyfor me.
I'm the basement boy.
So I'm down here and I hashtagbasement boy and I am the
basement boy, aka David Musgrave, your co-host for the show.
(01:29):
We're probably not okay,basement boy.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I was just thinking
if I could switch bodies with
Brian for one day.
Like Brian, if you and I switchbodies like our brains were in
in each other's bodies, I thinkI would do 20 push-ups.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Just to see what
that's like.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, just to see
what doing 20 push-ups Without
getting winded would be like.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, I'd pick up
something real heavy, just so I
felt Fuck.
Yeah, just so I felt cool.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I'd pick up a big,
heavy rock and just hurl it into
the water off a bridge.
Oh yeah, that would feelawesome, wouldn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And then just look
around and be like did you see
that?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
But no one ever does.
Yeah, too old to be a prowrestler?
Just the right age to help youmove.
That's how I look at it.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
So it's been a while,
guys, we haven't recorded and I
mean we did the episode, david,you did the episode where you
kind of had to do it by yourselfthat came out.
What was that like a week ago,week and a half ago now?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, it was probably
about a week and a half to two
weeks ago.
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
And before that it
was a couple of weeks.
That it was a couple weeks.
So, anyway, it's been a while.
I'm glad to be back and I thinkyou guys are glad to be back as
well, right, yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I love podcasting
very much.
Absolutely, I missed you both.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Me too so let's do
our patented mental wealth,
hellness, no, no hold on hold onhold on brandon.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Did you say mental?
Did you say mental wealth?
Hellness, I sure did.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, that's what
it's called now, right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Our mental wealth.
Hellness check-in.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I just pictured a
bunch of gold treasure in hell
yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I like that, though
it's very Tolkien-esque.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Welcome to MWH.
I like it.
It works.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Who wants to give us
their MWH first?
Who wants to skeet their dayonto us?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I am ready to skeet,
Brandon, if I may Skeet skeet,
which is the polite thing to doonce skeets is ask permission.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, you need the
consent first, of course.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Absolutely.
My mental health has beenpretty decent.
I have found myself in a prettygood place again I think I
talked about this last timewhere you know, job's doing
pretty well.
It's been.
It's been very stressful andvery busy, but it is like, oh
(04:06):
yeah, I keep remembering I workfor a decent company and decent
people and they're not out toget me at least not yet.
And so that you know, findingsome security in that, I still,
every single day, I get amessage like hey, david, I need
to talk to you real quick.
Oh, shoot, I'm getting fired.
Still have that thought everyday, but it doesn't happen.
(04:26):
And, uh, you know, things aregood there.
So, as we all know, a lot of mymental wellbeing is uh, uh.
My mental wealth is tied to um,is tied to my job, so things
are going well there.
I've picked up my side gig withum, with the Portugal.
Uh, real estate, real estateagain.
Um, that's going a little bitbetter than it did the first
(04:47):
time.
Still, we'll see if anythingcomes from that, but kind of
doing that some and that feelsgood to be trying to, you know,
push something forward with that, uh, and other than that, uh,
everything's pretty good.
We just went to, um, we justwent to louville, uh, kentucky,
to do parents weekend at mystepson's college, uh,
(05:08):
university of Louisville, goCardinals and that was fun.
Uh, we hung out with him, uh,went to some interesting
restaurants and, and, uh, youknow, just had a good time and
got him some supplies and madesure he's good and doing his
thing and he is, he seems to bedoing decently well and yeah.
(05:28):
So the weird thing about that is, as you all probably know,
hurricane Helen hit the NorthCarolina not just North Carolina
, but in particular, for thisstory hit North Carolina
mountains pretty hard andTennessee border pretty hard.
Story hit North Carolinamountains pretty hard, uh, and
Tennessee border pretty hard, um, and the route that we would
normally take to to get there,uh, does not exist literally
(05:51):
right now.
The roads don't exist, a lot ofthe towns along the way no
longer exist.
Um, they all got flooded andtrashed and it's really kind of
sad.
There's some special places toto care and it's really kind of
sad.
There's some special places tocure and I like Lake Lure and a
(06:11):
couple other places up therethat just got trashed.
It's just weird to think thatthey're not there, at least not
it may never be again, at leastnot in the way that we knew them
.
So that's kind of weird.
We had to drive.
Instead of going that way, wehad to drive all the way up into
Charleston, west Virginia, anddo the whole turnpike and then
go west through Huntington andthen into Kentucky that way.
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So luckily it didn't add a tonof time to the trip, but was
definitely weird.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
You said you went to
some interesting restaurants.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, we went to a
place called hammerheads which,
um, it's basically like thislittle basement Literally it's
like in the basement of a house,um and that was interesting.
It was great food.
Um, we had an elk burger, um,with Brie on it.
Um, got a cooked medium rareand it was rare rare, so got to
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just gnaw on some.
It's like going out in thewoods and biting an elk.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Uh, in a good way,
something we've all dreamed of
and now, I know the sensation Ilove elk burgers, though, so
freaking good.
Heck yeah, you've had it before.
I've never had this before.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Elk is delicious man.
Have you had venison?
What does?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
it taste like?
No, I am possessed ofexclusively pedestrian tastes.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
We need to fix this.
This is why we need to liveclose to each other, because I
would cook you up an elk burgertomorrow.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
David will choke out
an elk with his hands.
Hell yeah, just to the ground.
And then lightly with its eyesand then it'll make you a
delicious burger out of it, andrend its flesh with my hands and
it'll be like the opening scenefrom return of the king.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
When it's like that,
particularly visceral, like like
choking scene, only with Davidand an elk, yeah, give us the
meats, precious See.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
This is why I wish we
had more fans, Because you know
there'd be some fan art of thatshit after this episode and I
want to see that and becausewe're empirically hilarious and
do good work.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well, that as well.
Also another reason yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, that too.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
At the base of the
comment, but I mean yes, I also
would like some weird fan art.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But for the fan arts,
if I'm being honest, that's
really yeah, yeah can one of ourlisteners draw our fursonas?
That'd be great yeah, I wouldlove that.
Um, you don't even have to draw.
Well, it does not have to begood, in fact, if it's not,
sometimes that's better.
Um, sometimes that's better,yeah, so, yeah, some I don't
think I'd have a fursona.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I think I'd be a
scaly, I'd be a dragon.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Oh, is that not, I
guess?
So I assume there's probably.
I know nothing about furryculture.
I assume there's somedelineation between.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
You got the furries
and you got the scalies.
The scalies live at the top ofthe mountains and the furries
and you got the scalies.
The scalies live at the top ofthe mountains and the furries
live in the forest down in thewoods and sometimes in the caves
they're all part of the samesubculture right yeah they are
okay.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
I don't know much
about that yeah, I don't either.
Yeah me, neither do you yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I don't either.
Yeah me neither.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Do you or do you not
have a furry tail in your behind
currently?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's a damning
non-answer.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So anything else with
your mental wealth.
Hellness David, my good friend.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I was trying to think
if I went to any other
interesting restaurants that arenotable.
Oh, we also had Duck Tacos thatwere at Hammerheads, where?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
else did we go?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Kira, what other
restaurants did we go Live in?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
your best culinary
life.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, oh, and then we
went to an Irish pub, not as
notable, but we went to thisplace called Sergio World Beers.
That was a trip.
I'm going to put together alittle video.
We tried to record in there butthey kept coming and
(10:29):
interrupting us.
So I'm going to try to puttogether a video montage of what
we did and maybe I'll post thatto our channel or something.
But, dude, this place, it lookedlike an abandoned building.
In the front of it, a verysmall abandoned building.
You go in, there's a bigbuilding in the front of it very
small abandoned building.
You go in, there's like a bigbar in the front that looked
like it was built in somebody'sden and there's like some beer
(10:50):
cases and then there's like aflag that's like covering a back
room.
I'll keep this story short, butyou would think that that was
it.
But then the lady was like theyhad 50 beers on tap, which is
kind of crazy in and of itself,really good, like belgian style
beers and stouts, which thoseare like our favorite beers.
And then the lady's like can Ishow you around?
I'm like I can see, thanks.
(11:12):
But then we're like sure,whatever.
So she takes us to this backroom where there's just like
somebody's fridge full of allthese latin american beers.
And then we go back and likethis place used to be a
restaurant so there's all thesebooths and like more coolers,
and then like a walking coolerwith all these belgian beers,
and then like another hallwaywith beer coolers on both sides
(11:34):
and you think that'd be it.
No, behind another flag isanother hallway full of like
coolers of beer.
Beer was tucked everywhere inthis place.
It's like this dark, dingy oldhouse.
It felt like a haunted house,but instead of ghosts it was
beer.
It was weird man.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Like a beer labyrinth
.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
It was a beer
labyrinth.
It was very much like Beerlabyrinth meets homespun, a
haunted house, your neighbors,you go to trick-or-treat at your
neighbors.
Beer Labyrinth meets homespunHaunted House, your neighbors,
you go to trick-or-treat at yourneighbors.
Yeah, exactly it happened.
There's flags covering eachsection, so you think you're
(12:19):
done.
It's almost like walkingthrough a haunted house and you
have to push your way throughplastic sheets and shit.
It's like beer.
There's so much beer.
It was terrifying.
I loved it.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Hey guys, you guys
hang on just one second.
Yeah, give me one second.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
We'll talk about
haunted beer.
Some more.
Take your time, man.
Yeah, boo.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Ooh, haunted beer,
haunted beer.
Are you going to go into anyhaunted houses this holiday?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
We don't have any
plans for haunted houses this
year, which is kind of sad.
I'd love to go to a goodhaunted house.
We're going to go to the RinFair, hopefully in a week or so.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You bastard, I want
to go to a Rin Fair.
Come to North Carolina, you'rewelcome to go to the Wren Fair.
Hopefully in a week or so, youbastard, I want to go to a Wren
Fair.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Come to North
Carolina.
You're welcome to tag along.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Come to the coast,
have a few laughs.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
We're not on the
coast, but hey.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I was trying to do a
diehard thing.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, yeah, come to
Charlotte.
They said Come to 100, elsethey said Come to a haunted
house.
They said that's my BruceWillis, I guess.
Yeah, I've seen worse.
Welcome back.
We're talking about BruceWillis, thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
That's fun.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Going to a haunted
house, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
So tell me, Ryan.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
How are you?
How have you been buddy?
Uh, not great, but I have afunny story that I want to tell
you guys.
Yes, so get, okay.
So, um, I wanted to tell youthis in person, because telling
it via text would have been Ifeel like it would have made it
less funny.
Um, okay, so my youngest willowis in the color guard and in, uh
(14:12):
, in high school, and the colorguard is like the people who go
out with the band at footballgames and they tore all the
flags around.
They do like these elaborateroutines and stuff like that and
um, and they're basically likelumped in with the band as far
as like organization stuff goes.
So, uh, the other day and so,and so I have to go to like all
the football games which, by theway, guys I don't know if you
(14:34):
guys know this football isfucking boring.
I can't believe like people sitand watch this and prefer it to
pro wrestling because likenobody comes back from the dead,
nobody's got powers, nobody cantime travel, nobody like runs
in at the last minute to stealthe football.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Like this is bullshit
wait anyway before you continue
.
I'm so sorry.
I think you may have justcreated something, though you
know how they tried to do that,like x football league or
whatever the thing is.
They took it too seriously.
They should have made it alittle more like pro wrestling,
where all of the things you justdescribed happen.
Instead, they they would havebeen billionaires.
(15:14):
That sounds like the cool Iwould watch like some kind of
like future, post-apocalypticsports, like they actually did
that there was a thing that wascalled mutant league football.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
You remember this,
Brandon?
It was like a game series.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Wasn't that a Sega
game?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
It was.
It was a Sega game and it wasalso an animated series about
monsters that play football.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
And then it kind of
turned into that board game that
you can play.
Now I can't remember what it'scalled.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That's right.
I actually have seen that.
I think it's just called MutantLeague Football.
But they need to do alive-action version of that
where they try to pretend it'sreal.
That would be amazing.
Yeah, like with national teamsand shit Go ahead.
Can I pitch?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
something real quick.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes, and then let's
let Ryan get back to his funny
story.
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Okay, sorry, ryan.
Football game Guy dies on thefield.
Football game guy dies on thefield.
Everybody mourns it and thenthe camera is there to like show
after the funeral, the lightsgo down and then you see the
guy's hand reach up and grab afootball yes, yes, and it's a
football that was fumbled intothe end zone, so it scores a
(16:20):
touchdown.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yay, you think, you
know.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's it, yeah.
And then he and then he.
They go to do the extra pointand he pushes the kicker aside
and kicks it and his foot fliesoff with the football.
Both go over.
They give him extra points forthe foot as well.
Writes itself.
Writes itself yeah, I mean thisis all great.
(16:49):
It's all great, ryan, you had afunny story you were telling.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I think it's.
I think the moment has passedno, no, we need it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Please don't I.
I really want to hear this.
I feel so rude and bad.
If you don't tell the story, Iwill quit the podcast because I
I have done you dirty.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
If that's the case,
Um, okay, so we were, uh, the
game was over and I, or no, itwas like halftime or something.
And um, I go down and I see, uh, I go down and see willow like
between there after their setand stuff like that or whatever
it's called I don't know whatit's called, it might be called
the set um, and I'm just liketalking like hey, how you doing
(17:28):
is you think it's going well outthere, blah, blah, just like
you know being supportive dad.
And then this little guy walksup.
He like a little he wasprobably like yeah, he was
probably younger than willowlike a, a like prototypical band
.
He was like this short, skinny,like braces, a little a little
(17:49):
dollop of acne and glasses andlike the tall hat and everything
.
And he comes over and is likehey, willow, and Willow just
fixes him with a patented Willowhard stare, like a like no, no
emotion, and then just goesbeans and the guy then walks
(18:11):
away.
And so after that I'm like Ilike look back to Willow and I'm
as though to be like you needto explain what just happened.
And so Willow, and Willow waslike oh, everybody, that kid's
beans because he's reallyannoying.
And I was like does he want tobe called beans and she was like
he's fine with it.
And I was like, okay, if he'sfine with it.
(18:32):
Like don't be calling peoplestuff they don't want to be
called.
And Willow was like nah, he'sfine with it.
And I said, do you know hisreal name?
And Willow was like yeah, I waslike yeah.
I was like okay, what's his realname?
And, guys, I swear to God myhand to Superman, willow says,
without missing a beat, His realname is Blade.
And I was like hold on what.
(18:56):
I was like what, okay, he doesnot want to be Beans.
Then, like so many jokes justflooded my brain.
Like not, one couldn't get out.
And so I was like like thekickboxing vampire.
And Willow was like yeah, yeah,like Blade from Marvel.
And I was like does he knowabout Blade from Marvel?
Like does he know?
Like the kickboxing vampire?
And Willow was like yeah, yeah,like Blade from Marvel.
And I was like does he knowabout Blade from Marvel?
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Like does he know about thekickboxing vampire?
And Willow was like I don'tthink he does and I was like
wait, does he choose to becalled Beans?
And Willow was like no, I mean,everybody just calls him Beans
and he just kind of rolls withit and I'm like, yeah, no, what
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
his parents named him
Blade, I assume ironically,
like as a bit.
Because they knew what hell hewas going to go through in high
school.
So they were trying to at leastgive him Blade Just like
fucking like genetically.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Like you know, one of
them has to at least look a
little bit like him right, yeah,yeah yeah, because they had to
know what they were going to get.
Yeah, and they were like youknow what this kid needs.
We need to reverse boy name,Sue him.
We need to give him the hardest, most badass name possible
after a kickboxing vampire.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And I was like so I
gave you that name so people
would shit when they heard yourname.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So vampires would be
afraid of you.
What's your name?
Oh, my name's storm runner,storm runner blade master, but
it was bled blade, that's.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
That's badass, yeah
and yeah, and so I was like uh,
I was like well, but will evensaid like dad, if you saw that
kid and I said his name iseither beans or blade, like
which one would you think it was?
I was like no, I mean yeah,obviously.
Yeah, I mean he looks like abeans blade.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Don't want to be
blade don't want to be beans,
baby.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Well, I think he kind
of did like it's.
It's kind of a situation where,like if I I don't know maybe he
resents his badass name, whichI can't imagine.
I can't imagine that no, and yetthere it was like right, and I
just sort of stood there like inawe of this entire exchange
(21:04):
that just took place and thenalso the one that I had too, and
I was like I just, and I was,you know, there's there's been
on more than one occasion Ithought to myself like and then
I do my kids dirty by likegiving them, giving them kind of
like a little bit weird names,but then I was like nah, nah.
No, my kids are not named Blade.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
No, your kids have
perfectly awesome names.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, other than that
, I did get into a fist fight
with my clothes dryer the otherday.
Oh dude About it.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I definitely thought
that sentence was going to end a
little earlier than it did, andI thought we were in for an
even better story than the beanstory.
That was going to be tough todo.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
No, I know my, my, my
, my was doing laundry and my
clothes dryer was doing thisthing.
There's.
There's obviously somethingfucking wrong with it.
What it is don't know, but it'sbeen beeping just randomly like
as the clothes are drying.
But here's the thing that sucksshit for real.
It's beeping arrhythmicallylike it's not like beep, beep,
(22:08):
beep.
It's like beep, beep beep, beep.
Beep and I was like oh my God,and I couldn't figure out what
was causing it.
And it was like a straw thatbroke the camel's back kind of
situation.
Sure, I just fucking decked it,I just hauled off and just
smashed it with my fist and I'mpretty sure I did some damage to
(22:31):
myself, but it stopped me.
It stopped me, that's what Iwas hoping for.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I did some damage to
myself, but it stopped me.
That's what I did, that's whatI said.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I was telling that
story to my coworkers this
morning and I so I said Fonzie,did you know?
But Fonzie was.
It was more of like a precise,a controlled explosion, you know
not not an act of fury, but anact of assertion, an assertion
of dominance.
Mine was just like you andpunch yeah but it worked, it's
(23:02):
funny, let that be a lessonlisteners.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
It's funny when in
doubt hit it yeah, absolutely,
when that applies to a lot ofsituations.
It's kind of funny that yousaid that too, because, um, or
it's kind of funny that you saidthat too, because or it's kind
of funny when you lean back andI saw a Vault Boy on your shirt,
because I was about to say thatsounds kind of like an
(23:25):
experiment that Vault-Tec woulddo, like make appliances that
make arrhythmic beeping.
Just to see how long it took todrive the uh occupants of the
vault insane.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
So turns out not long
yeah, yeah, uh, but that was
just the other day.
Um, other than that, I feellike there was something else I
wanted to tell you guys, but Ican't remember what it was.
Um, do you guys see this?
Like, look at this, I got thisextra line of black here, you
(23:58):
see?
This is that new I've nevernoticed it before.
See this, it's like I got myusual thing going on, but it's
like this extra?
Speaker 1 (24:08):
that would be weird
if you like, went like reverse
gray, like that was gray, andthen it decided to go back to
north because I don't know thatI've noticed that either not to
go back to north because I don'tknow that I've noticed that
either not me either, and it'sjust.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
I don't know if it's
just the light in here or what
you know what?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
something I have
noticed on my beard, though,
lately is that my mustache isseems like it's getting darker
and that like gets darker downinto here, like you see how this
part is like goes down furtherdarker.
I've never noticed that aboutmyself and I just know.
Maybe there's like some kind ofnatural phenomenon happening to
to men's facial hair across theworld I don't know, some sort
(24:43):
of facial hair cryptid yes,brandon, have you noticed
anything unusual about?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
your facial hair
weird not particularly now that
is weird.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Now that you
mentioned it, right, I don't
know that I remember what Iwanted to tell you guys.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
This is great.
So, uh, over the weekend, um, Ihad nobody here with me, like
my uh kids were off doing stuffand uh, my wife had some
conversation she was speaking at, and so I was by myself and hey
, that's not great, that's notgreat for me mentally speaking.
(25:23):
It's like, hey, there's nothingto do, there's nothing for you
to do, and you're just going tobe alone and stare into the
middle distance.
So that was bad.
So my coworkers were like, comehang out with us.
And I was like, well, I guess Idon't have a reason not to.
(25:44):
And so I did.
And I don't know if you've everhung out with drunk therapists.
I can't say that, no, but theytried to do drunk therapy to you
this sounds right yeah, no, itwas great because, I mean, the
(26:07):
majority of the people I workwith are therapists.
And so, like they were all,like you know, going out and
they had some uh, they had, theyimbibed some spirits, as
Dickens might say and then Iguess it dawned on at least one
of them like hey, we don't knowanything about you, like you're
super mysterious and don't tellanybody anything, and I was like
(26:28):
yep.
And so then they were like well, let's try and therapize him.
And I was like ha ha, ha ha,I've destroyed therapists.
I made my last therapist cry.
I'm so close to winning therapy.
I'm so close.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
You're always there,
yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
I have a question.
I'm assuming they didn't peerpressure you into imbibing
yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Oh, no, Okay, Fun
fact for our listeners if I
haven't mentioned it before Idrank alcohol before.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Right, which is why I
made that assumption.
It would have been buck wild ifthat was the first night you
chose to try, like you know,getting a little loose, because
then you would have told themmore than you would have wanted
to, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Or my greatest fear I
would have like, because the
reason I've never drank isbecause pretty much everybody in
my family who drinks they flipout and turn into a rage monster
and I was like, oh, thatdoesn't sound fun at all.
Yeah, that would not be good,so more statistically likely, I
(27:32):
would have gotten drunk and,like, flipped over a table and,
you know, challenged someone toa fight.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, genetically
speaking probably smart not to.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
So, but anyway, what
about you, Brandon?
How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Well, let me look at
my notes here.
I started a new job.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Are we supposed to
take notes?
Yeah, are we supposed to betaking notes?
I haven't been taking notes.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
No, these are my
notes for my mental check-in,
right, but that's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Are we supposed to
come prepared for their mental?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yeah, because I
basically am just like.
I'm going to remember to tell afunny story later.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I do it because I
won't remember the specific
things I want to talk about, andthen afterwards because I have
that habit of just like when Igo to therapy.
When somebody asks me how I'mdoing, I'm like I'm fine, even
if I'm not fine and things havebeen going crazy.
So I write it down, so Iremember to talk about it.
That's awesome.
But yeah, you guys do need tobring notes next time and I'm
(28:35):
disappointed that you didn'tshit.
Okay, so you're gonna have todo 10 hail marys and slap
yourself with a ruler a coupletimes I mean the ruler part.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Consider that done.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I that's punishment
fits the crime pretty, pretty
par for the course.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But I don't know how
to hail Mary, take the ring.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Sorry, All right.
So I started a new job and Ileft the job already because the
job sucked and it was difficultto do, because I really was
getting paid very well for thisjob and it was something in my
field of interest.
I don't want to get into itjust because it's a pretty
(29:20):
well-known big company in thislocal area so I'm not trying to.
It's amazon, whatever it'samazon I was working for jeff
bezos fuck you bezos, hey bezos,get fucked I don't think.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I don't think enough
is made of the fact that his
last name is Bezos, which isSpanish for kisses, Like why
aren't we calling him Jeffy?
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Kisses or something.
Jeff Smooch, so cute, jeffSmooch, yeah, mr.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Smoochie, I love it.
Old Jeffrey Smooch.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Old Jeffrey Smooch is
pretty great.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So, yeah, I haven't
found a new job in the meantime
I did since we recorded last.
I also had a birthday, I turned40, so I I rolled into turning
40, unemployed and single,living with a cat brain, it just
don't look at it I'm trying notto.
I'm trying to bring someoptimism to my life, but it's
difficult.
It's just like a big black holestaring me in the face just
(30:22):
don't look at it.
I'm slowly getting pulledtowards it.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I'm like, oh no, oh
no just don't look, yeah yeah, I
think you're awesome if ithelps, and I'm being sincere as
hell I'm glad I made it to 40.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm relatively happy
with what I'm doing, outside of
the fact that I don't have a jobright now.
That sucks, but like I like myapartment, I like living with my
cat.
I don't have my daughter asmuch as I'd like because of some
behind the scenes stuff, but Istill see her pretty regularly.
So like I like my life for themost part.
But there are certain things Iwould like to change, certain
(31:03):
things I would like fixed.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah Well and you've
got time to fix it, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
I will say that's
that is very true.
You do have time to fix it, andthe fact that you can say all
of that stuff leading up to itis really what's fucking
important anyway.
Yeah, that's the hard part, inmy opinion.
You can get a job that isrelatively easy and pays really
super well, and you could stillbe fucking miserable.
(31:31):
That's the story of a lot ofpeople.
So if you could just get thatlast little piece of security,
then you're you half thebattle's already won, man that's
how this job was it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
It was good money,
but, man, I just could not
fucking do it.
I was so unhappy.
Every day like it's.
It had been years and yearssince I've had a job where,
literally, I would be driving towork, thinking I wonder how
hurt I would be if I justcrashed my car so I didn't have
to go to work.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know
so again, we we had that exact
same conversation when I was atmy last job, with old johnny
duck quack um, making memiserable every single day, and
not to mention other people.
The more hindsight I have ofthat place and I I've actually
made a I've made a new friend atmy work now who I have a lot of
(32:18):
things in common with and has avery similar background, has
worked at similar companies towhat I have, and the more I talk
to him and reflect on what wasbad about my last job dude, that
place was sucking my soul.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
So you don't want
that.
I'm glad that you, I'm gonna behonest and this is just me.
You know me being a true friendwho will speak the truth to
your face.
I was sad.
I was sad that you had to quitbecause, you know, I felt like
really good for you and therewere a couple times where, like
hey, you know, just use them,get the money, do what you gotta
(32:54):
do, do, do what you got to do.
Yeah, but it was obviouslygetting to the point where that
was going to be a toxicsituation and you, your mental
health was definitely going todecline over time with that
place.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
So I'm glad I was
trying to, I really was trying
to just stick it out yeah likethere's a lot of bullshit I can
deal with, but whenever I'mtalked down to like yeah like I
I'm hired to do a job, I'm paidwell to do a job, and then I'm
talked down to like I've neverfucking touched a keyboard
before.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, I would punch a
motherfucker Like you're
probably.
They're lucky you didn't dothat.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah, I
actually had an experience
(33:52):
similar to that.
Well, I just found out aboutthis today.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
In fact, a manager
got shitty with me for a minute
and I was diplomatic about itand then went about my business
and then one of my coworkers waslike to our manager was like we
don't talk to Ryan that way.
Nice, yeah, that's awesome, Ilike that.
But yeah, that's all I've gotas far as my mental wealth
hellness check-in.
Let's get into the.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Can we just call it
hellness?
Hellness is good too.
Hellness is cool, let's getinto some hellness it does kind
of sound like.
Hellman's, though.
Sorry, I'm stepping all overyour transition.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Just fucking Winnie
the Pooh in a jar of mayonnaise.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Oh, I do like some
mayo.
What the fuck was that?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Is this a new
character?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Winnie the Pooh, but
he's with mayonnaise instead of
honey.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
The jar is misspelled
like the honey jar.
Yes that's correct I panicked.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
I actually do a
decent Winnie the Pooh when I
don't try, but when I try it'snot good.
So that was Schminnie the Pee.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
It was like pee with
your brain off.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Schminnie the P, that
was like two of his brainwaves,
schminney the P, when he eatsjars of mayo.
He loves it, can't get enoughof it.
Yeah, I'm done.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Am I okay to
introduce the topic now?
Yeah, I know All right, thetopic this time is failure, and
I want to start with this.
I sent you guys the questionsahead of time so you had a
little bit of time to think onthem, because I know sometimes
at least for me I get a question, I'm like shit, I don't know.
So here's the big question.
(35:28):
First, what is something youfeel like you have failed at?
It's a tough one.
It might get serious.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Oh no, you pointed at
basement, boy, basement boy.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Hashtag B-boy.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, you pointed at
the old B-boy.
What is something that I failedat?
Creative endeavors, making thata living in my, in my life, uh,
instead of just a pastime orhobby, uh, is one big thing that
(36:07):
I failed at.
It could be said that I failedat two marriages, but, um, I
really like to.
I was joking earlier, thinkingabout these questions.
I was joking with Kira and Iwould rather pose that as I
failed at marrying the rightwoman, because it took me a
(36:29):
couple times to do that and inthe end I didn't fail at that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
So that's, I guess
maybe we can't even claim that,
uh well, that's going to leadinto some one of my questions
later.
Oh my god, as far as like, uh,if you feel like you've improved
on something, like you failedbut then succeeded later on with
something.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
But anyway, we'll get
it then I'll save that um and
say that following my dreams.
I failed at following my dreams.
99.9% of humans fail at this,but I am one of them, and that's
the biggest thing that you know.
I kind of thought maybe Iwouldn't.
I'd be one of the 0.1 peoplethat didn't, so we'll roll with
(37:12):
that and kick it over to Ryan.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Oh, 0.1 people that
didn't, so we'll, we'll, just
we'll roll with that and kick itover to Ryan.
Oh, um, well, um, I feel likeI've failed at most thing in my
life honestly, like I considermyself largely a failure.
Um, I mean pretty mucheverything I've ever really
attempted to do, or whether it'syou know, relationships or,
(37:40):
like you were saying, david,with marriages, or anything
really Like I, I don't think I,yeah, I think I, I largely think
, think about it in thatcapacity, yeah, uh, you, just
you.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
You feel like you've
just kind of failed at most
things at life, more or lessyeah so what is why?
Why do you think you've failedlike what is?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
what about?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
it is screams failure
to you or says failure to you.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Oh, I mean just
mostly, and I recognize some
things are in control.
You know like, obviously, likewe're stuck in the, you know,
the terminal stages ofcapitalism and whatnot and that
tends to limit people's abilityto be upwardly mobile or have
(38:35):
fulfilling lives and stuff likethat.
So I recognize some things areoutside of my control, but I
don't know.
Just kind of like what Davidwas was kind of saying a little
bit too about, like you know,being in bad relationships, but
then also too, it's likewhenever you've had so many bad
(39:00):
relationships in a row, you knowwhat I mean.
It's like, okay, there is acommon thread here and
unfortunately it's me.
Um, and then you know, I mean Ididn't, uh, you know, I mean I
didn't, I don't know like I, Ihaven't been able to provide the
life that I wanted to be ableto provide for my kids.
(39:22):
Yeah, and that sucks, shit.
Like my son grew to adulthoodwithout ever having a bedroom at
my house, so that sucks and I,I mean that's just an example
yeah, I know, I know and like it, I, I, I have no security or
(39:46):
stability in my life, like I'malways one bad day away from
complete and utter like ruin andcollapse.
Yeah, so you know, like it's awhat it's a flat tire away from
utter destruction.
You know, then, that and that'snot like that's not, that's not
(40:06):
necessarily success.
And and as far as, like youmentioned, like dreams and stuff
like that, like my dreams, ifyou can call them, that are so
like mundane right now, likesurvival is a dream, you know
what I mean and that's likeanything beyond that is like oh,
(40:27):
holy shit, look at, look, who'seating little caesar's pizza
today oh yeah you know,apparently there's something
called Walk-In Wednesdays.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Have you heard of
this?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
You get the pizza a
lot cheaper on Wednesdays if you
walk in and get it, I guess.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
What Really?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, wednesdays,
walk-in Wednesdays Damn,
Remember that.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
I will remember that.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
How do you feel about
your creative endeavors like
podcasting and stuff?
Do you view that as largely afailure?
Do you view that as relativelysuccessful, considering we still
do it.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Well, for me, no, I
don't view it as a failure
because I think the point wasn'tlike fame and monetary success,
it was to make a podcast for meanyway.
Anyway, and there's no like.
I don't think that they're awrong answer per se, um, but for
me, I just wanted to, I justlike making podcasts.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
I've been doing it
for so long now that it's its
own reason you know, yeah, yeah,I can piggyback on that and say
the exact same thing.
Um, I think it's neat, uh,whenever something kind of cool
happens on even a small scale,where it's like, oh, this, this
episode, we did got double theviews that we normally get, for
(41:43):
some reason, and that's coolthat's awesome.
Yeah, it is, it's really neat,um, but to that point, there,
there are videos we've put out,there are podcasts we've put out
, there are podcasts we've putout where, like if a dozen
people consumed it, yeah and Idon't care.
And another reason I don't careis because I also see this as
(42:04):
an analog of this time in ourlives.
It's almost kind of like athree-way diary of just where we
are in life and even when we'renot talking about like
ourselves, we're not doing ourmental wealth hellness check-in,
we are kind of just exhibitingourselves in this moment, even
(42:28):
through the stupid jokes that wemake and just observations we
make, make and um, and justobservations we make.
So there could be a time, ifI'm lucky enough to live to, you
know, 85 and I'm just sittingaround and be like remember the
days and I go back and listen toit, just for the hell of it.
You know that hopefully thatwill exist as a time capsule.
(42:50):
Um, across I I hope, many, manyyears of us doing this, even if
it's, you know, just for uslater and not for anyone else.
That is success to me, becausethat was the whole point.
And um, and if nothing else,even though it's hard for us
sometimes to to make the time toget together, um, or there are
(43:10):
some times when I'm also justbeing honest that I don't want
to do it.
I'm like we're going to recordtonight.
I don't really feel like I wantto, but then we start and I'm
like it's my buddies, I justlike talking to you guys, and so
even if it's just an excuse forus to get on and do that, it's
a success for me.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah, see, I consider
like I thought about this
question a lot whenever I wroteit and you know I could choose
relationships.
I have a string of failedrelationships.
Uh, talking about ryan, whenyou look at the common
denominator, I actually had thatconversation with one of my
exes whenever we were in a fight.
(43:52):
I was like it was towards theend of the relationship and I I
could tell, and she could tell,and I was like I don't
understand why all myrelationships in this way?
And she goes what's the commonfucking factor, brandon?
And like that stuck with mewhere I was like oh, it's, it is
me, you know.
And there's a uh kind of folkparody singer named tom larer
(44:12):
larer, I think, is how youpronounce it and he has a quote
where he says I'm not a bachelor, I've just skipped a few
divorces and I feel like that'swhere I'm at.
So I don't consider my stringof relationships failure,
because I've reached a point nowwhere I feel like I don't need
to be with somebody.
I would like to be withsomebody, but I don't need to be
with somebody like I didthroughout my 20s and early 30s,
(44:35):
you know.
Yeah, so the thing that I pickedthat I failed at is also kind
of what you suggested, david,the creative endeavors.
You know I started a podcastbefore this one 12 years ago now
, dueling Ogres my old podcastand I tried so fucking hard to
get that thing off the groundand you know, we got we would
(44:56):
have viewers and we had fans andwe reached out and we made
connections and stuff.
Some people I connected throughthe podcast there who listen to
this podcast now.
You know, yeah, um, but it justit didn't go anywhere and then
the whole thing just justfizzled out at the end.
That's what gets me the most,so that's why I consider it a
failure.
It was two people involved inthis.
(45:18):
I'm trying not to get tooincendiary.
There were two people that didthe podcast myself and my friend
.
I wanted the podcast tocontinue and he seemed to not
want the podcast to continue andit fizzled without any
discussion at all.
So I consider that a failure onmy part that I wasn't able to
advocate for it more to continuein some capacity and we do.
(45:41):
We stream on Twitch and stuffnow you can watch that still
where we do D&D.
But I don't know.
That's one of the things that Iconsider to be one of the
biggest failures.
And I mean again, I could alsopick, like what you suggested as
being a parent, ryan, mydaughter I mentioned earlier.
(46:01):
She doesn't come here becauseshe saw a flea on my cat.
I've treated my cat multipletimes for fleas.
I've cleaned everything.
I don't see fucking fleas here.
But she thinks there's fleashere here, so she doesn't want
to come.
So I see her when I go visither, you know, and it sucks.
I don't consider that a failure.
I mean I can't control ifthere's a flea in here or not.
(46:22):
You know I can clean everything.
I can do the best I can.
I keep my apartment as clean aspossible yeah so I don't.
I kind of went off on a tangentthere.
I apologize.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
No, no I think that's
what we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
It's absolutely
relevant to to what we're
talking about, and you know itis funny because I think this is
in particular with Ryan, butalso with kind of what you just
said to Brandon.
I think that, um, the view offailure for both of you is
definitely a self-consciousnessthing, because I look at both of
(46:58):
you and I see a lot of success,like I I am, the aspects of
each of your life.
Um, Brian, I see you as umfunny, kind, helpful person, and
(47:18):
living a day in your life whereI could be as good as you are
in many of those ways is veryattractive to me.
Brandon, similar to you, um,there there are things that you
do and say and, um, the way youlive your life and the way that
you, you project yourself.
(47:38):
That I find to be, you know,very appealing as well.
So are you?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
referring?
Are you referring to my freewheel and razzmatazz?
Speaker 1 (47:47):
Mostly Um, that's
about 95, 95 of about what I'm
talking about.
The other five percent is yoursweet ass cat.
So yeah yeah, no, but yourcat's razzmatazz, I mean yeah
yeah, well, his cat's razzmatazzhas a lot to do with his
razzmatazz.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
There's some
crossover in those percentages
she brings the razzmatazz, Ibring the tazima yeah yeah, yeah
, I agree, but no seriously likeI.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
so I understand
definitely the money thing like
that that I I certainly get.
But I'd also say you've had alot of bad days I know you have
because we talk about them andyou haven't spiraled, you
haven't broken, and there'ssomething to be said about the
(48:39):
success of your spirit eventhrough indomitable times.
So I don't think either of youare failures.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
You just get sick of
like bad shit happening all the
time.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Of course, Of course
that's I.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
every time something
goes wrong like my, my constant
refrain is I just need shit tostop happening yeah, well, like,
and for me, I want to talkabout it, but I feel like so
much bad shit happens at oncethat if I talk about it, as it
happens, I'm just constantlydiscussing.
(49:08):
You just're just constantly asad sack right and I don't want
to do that, like I actively tryto not be a sad sack.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
But you're not a sad
sack.
You are a happy sack and justbecause you talk about things
that are happening in your lifeand if they are bad, it doesn't
make you a sad sack Like it'sthe way you handle sad sack like
it's it's it's the way youhandle it on the other side of
it.
So you know it may seem likecomplaining, but you you can
also talk about bad shit thathappens to you.
(49:39):
If it just so happens to happento you 10 days in a row, then
that's what happened to you.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
I don't yeah, but I
mean you also have to be
realistic that everybody hastheir own shit going on in their
life.
True.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
I guess who's the
audience here.
Like everyone you meet, yeah,ok.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I thought you meant
more like to us in this
environment.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I thought you meant
more like to us and in this
environment, because obviouslywe've kind of set aside a, an
environment for all of us to beable to do this and oh yeah, of
course, which is kind of aspecial and different thing that
probably a lot of people don'thave.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
Absolutely yeah.
So I want to go to the nextquestion then, because I know
we're we've been going for awhile already.
Let's flip it over to what issomething you have succeeded at,
what is something you wouldconsider you have success in
your life about.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I'll go again, since
it's hard to say this because
I'm not where I want to be, butI do feel like I have been
successful in changing my life,uh, for the better, and maybe
(51:02):
this goes along with your otherquestion.
But I I was successful inrealizing that my life was not
what I wanted it to be, both inthe person that I was spending
it with, um, and in my career ormy current job, and so I
decided to make some tough calls, uh, and basically, in a lot of
(51:24):
ways, put myself through a lotof.
It got a lot worse before itgot a lot better, but in doing
that, I realized that I cancontinue to make changes, even
when they suck and they're hard,and so thus I've been through
(51:47):
two divorces.
Thus I've changed jobs a decentamount in the last five years,
but it has gotten me to thepoint where I'm in a
relationship where I'mcompletely happy and supported
and in a job where I amcompletely happy and supported
and it is providing me aplatform to hopefully which is
going to be hard, it's going totake a lot of time, more time
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than I expected, but hopefullyfind a dream life or at least
like living in a place that alsogives me happiness and support
and a lifestyle that isdifferent than the hectic,
bullshit life that we all livein.
Yeah, without you know sayingtoo much.
You know bullshit life that weall live in.
(52:29):
Yeah, without you know sayingtoo much.
You know I want to live.
I want to live a life where I'mmaking enough, can feel like
I'm moving toward a day that,you know, if it's not retirement
, it's at least like slowingdown even more at some point in
my life and just enjoy the yearsthat I have with my family and
(52:53):
my friends and not think about alot of the things we've been
talking about all the time, likeI mean, look at me, if you knew
me over the last 20 years, atdifferent stages in my life I
(53:14):
was broke as fuck.
I was miserable within myrelationship.
I was miserable in my jobs,didn't feel like I had any
prospects, felt completely outof control, and I was successful
in taking some of that controland changing my life to where I
find incremental levels of peace.
Am I at peace all the time?
(53:36):
Do I have no worries?
Of course not, but I'm findingthose incremental steps and now,
finally, for the first time, Ifeel like I have a platform and
honestly I feel like if LP uhBob duck, quack uh job that I
work at now went away tomorrow,it would fucking suck.
(53:57):
But I feel supported enough nowto know that I would find the
next thing that I needed to do,or I could work, or I could work
at Walmart and flip burgers,and go work at my my friend's uh
business and do that for acouple of months until I found a
job and make sure that we'regetting by like I.
I don't feel as desperate andscared of the little losses or
(54:20):
even the big losses as much as Iused to.
So that's I've.
I've given myself that muchsuccess.
Um, and yeah, that's the answer.
I guess that was long-winded,I'm sorry no, you're fine, fuck
yeah, successful david yeah Iwould consider you a successful
(54:40):
person I appreciate like fromthe outside.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
I would consider you
a successful person, ryan.
What's something you've beensuccessful with and you better
give me an answer, bub um, well,I, I have, I okay.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Well, one thing that
I did that I succeeded at was,
um, I actually achieved, uh,black belt status, and that was
great answer I mean that wasvery difficult and yeah, not, it
was so wild to me and this sayssomething a lot about, like um,
(55:24):
my personal flavor of traumawhere I had um, because usually,
like what, what happens is youtake the test and then, like it
takes them a few days to liketabulate your performance score
and all that other stuff, solike you don't know right away
(55:45):
if you have succeeded.
Yeah, and so I took the test andI very obviously succeeded and
I was sitting there like on, Iremember, sitting on the edge of
my bed, but now now comes theworst part the, the waiting, and
then my then at the timegirlfriend comes in and she was
(56:06):
like hey, you did such a goodjob, you totally did it, you
passed you, you, mr tough guy,mr black belt, and I was like I
don, you did such a good job,you totally did it, you passed
you, mr Tough guy, mr Black belt, and I was like I don't know
that, I don't know that I passed.
Yet she was like you didperfectly, you did everything
perfectly, like you woulddefinitely did.
But my brain was still like youdon't know that, of course.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (56:31):
It doesn't matter
that you'll, they'll find a way,
yeah, and by they I mean, likethe universe, I don't know.
Yeah, um, but I mean, obviously, like I said, I ultimately I
was successful and, you know,went on to teach for many years
and do all kinds of fun stuffwith that aspect of my life
before, uh, that imploded.
But, um, because I don't knowif you guys know this or not,
(56:54):
but one of the hardest thingsabout having a long martial arts
career is dojos are not a verylucrative business, so sometimes
they just shut down, yeah, yeah, or or they fall victim to um,
(57:14):
a lot of drama because you ain'tabout that dojo life until
you've had a talk, sensei, justsaying so it's ego.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Is there ego involved
then?
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Yeah, big time In my
sensei, who is the best sensei
in the world and also the bestsensei that I've personally ever
had, is listening right now.
So she knows that that is avery real problem, not with her,
obviously, but with other uhsenseis that exist.
so, yeah, yeah it's so whatyou're saying is cobra kai is a
(57:49):
documentary I mean okay, so yesbut, instead of instead of
solving their problems throughfighting, which would be a lot
easier, and I have advocated forin the past just let people
fight.
Just let people fight.
Let's solve all kinds of shit.
You know someone's beingshitted to you.
You can, you can get fought, sobe nice, you know anyway um
(58:15):
Ryan would you do that.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Go ahead what Nope?
Finish the thoughts.
Speaker 3 (58:19):
Instead of doing that
shit, they just get catty and
shitty with each other.
Yeah, uh, what were?
Speaker 1 (58:23):
you going to say I
was going to.
I made you a t-shirt that saidlet's karate about it.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
I like that phrase,
that's for sure.
Yes, absolutely I like that.
But yeah, in that area I wasultimately and I kept like my
brain kept looking for reasonswhy I couldn't date this, where
I was like, well, you know,everybody makes you, so they
(58:51):
probably took it easy on youlike no yeah you did all the
things you were supposed to do,and um, and did them
successfully.
And then it's like, well, didsomeone help you?
It's like no, it was literallyjust me out there, like I was
(59:11):
the only person out there,except for the other people that
I had to fight, and uh, so no,but my brain kept like trying to
like cycle through all thesethings where it's like how can
we invalidate this, this successof yours?
Speaker 2 (59:24):
yeah, yeah so I want
to, oh, with me.
I would consider myselfsuccessful at being a parent.
There's stuff that I've done asa father, like I joke with my
kid and I'm like you know.
There's stuff that I'veprobably done or said that
you're gonna file away in yourbrain and be like, well, that's
(59:45):
gonna be therapy someday.
Dad and I was like you know,just by the nature of being a
parent.
There's stuff that I'm going tosay that's probably hurt your
feelings, that you're going tobe therapy someday.
Dad and I was like you know,just by the nature of being a
parent.
There's stuff that I'm going tosay that's probably hurt your
feelings, that you're going toconfront me on, but overall,
like I feel like I'm a goodparent.
She's taken care of.
I've got a two bedroom placespecifically so she has a place
now, uh, when she needs to stay,you know everything I do as far
as planning for the futurerevolves around having a place
(01:00:08):
that can support having her foras long as she needed or wanted
to stay with me.
You know I never think aboutmoving and getting a one bedroom
somewhere.
It's always a father and, ryan,I would say that you are
successful as a father as well,I think you're way too hard on
yourself.
That's part of the nature ofthis podcast.
Is telling you you're too hardon yourself and I know that it
(01:00:28):
comes up of this podcast istelling you you're too hard on
yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
And I know that it
comes up a lot, doesn't it?
It does it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
it doesn't really
affect you, probably as far as
hearing that, but you're a gooddad, you know you think of some
of the shit, that some of thepeople that we saw in junior
high, the kids- like how theylived and their parents lived.
Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Yeah, you're a good
parent, I agree.
Well, thanks, hands down.
Um, I mean, I consider, as faras like, like my, my kids are
good people and, uh, they arefulfilled and interesting and
morally upright and care aboutothers.
So so, in that regard, Iconsider I have been a
successful parent to them, asfar as like the element of
(01:01:17):
teaching them how to human.
Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
That alone is a lot
more than most people do, or not
most people?
But, a lot of people do withtheir kids.
Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
And my final question
do you feel like your failures
have made you more resilient?
Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
In a weird way.
I think so Because it's clicheto be like.
Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
Well, you know, the
failures will make you stronger.
I feel like that's very clicheto say, and it's kind of I kind
of get sick of it when peoplesay that shit to me.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because I'd rather not dealwith it and be weak, I guess.
Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
Well, it's not even
it's not even that, it's like
for.
For me anyway, it's like oh, Iguess this didn't kill me.
I guess I'll learn to live withthis, because yeah and that was
like a weird lesson for me,because I I went through a
horrific uh divorce twice and itI remember the first time it
(01:02:21):
happened I was like like I'll, Idon't know that I can go
through this, like I don't knowthat I can survive this.
And then then I fucking didyeah.
And then when it happened againI was like this sucks, but I
know it's not enough to fuckingkill me, so I guess we'll just
keep going.
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Yeah, I agree with
that.
I don't know that it made memore resilient.
I think it made me wiser, um,maybe know what to avoid or how
to live my life in a way where Iwouldn't have to repeat, um,
the the bigger failures.
Uh, you know, the relationshipthing keeps coming up.
Uh, you know, I don't reallyhave the fear of that happening,
(01:03:02):
um, again.
But I also knew that if I wasgoing to enter in to a marriage
again, you know that it I wouldonly do it if it was with the
right person and there was onlyone right person and there was a
right choice and it was an easyand obvious choice.
But I don't think if it was, ifI didn't have that right choice
(01:03:27):
person, I'm pretty sure I'dnever get married again.
Yeah, so I don't think thatmakes me person.
Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
I'm pretty sure I'd
never get married again.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
So I don't think that
makes me resilient, I think
that makes me wise and, ifanything, makes me more afraid
to go through the pain andsuffering of certain situations
again, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Yeah, it does.
I was trying to think of ananalogy, but I couldn't think of
anything that didn't sound likean early 2000s emo song.
Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Well then, say
something that sounds like an
early 2000s emo song.
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
So your back is just
covered in scars, right?
Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
I don't know this
reference.
Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
It's not a reference,
I'm just saying it sounds like
something that would be.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
It does very much so,
because I thought it was real.
Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
Now I can reference
all kinds of stuff though, if
you want some Taking Back Sunday, some Brand Now, that would be
great.
I only know that one song thatwas on the Spider-Man sound, I
don't remember what it wascalled.
Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
So I have.
I'm bringing back a thing thatwe haven't done in a while and
it was a fan favorite feature.
And I say it's a fan favoritefeature because it was my
feature, so I want to pretendthat it's a fan favorite.
So do we want to do this firstor do we want to wrap up the
failure topic first?
Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Can I?
Interject with something justreal quick, sweetly, ryan, I'm
gonna look at you specificallyfor this one, because you're up
here for me, ryan I was gonnasay that's brandon I want to let
you too.
I want to let you know that I'mgonna look at dave I want to
let you know this hasn'tactually been a podcast.
You've been set up from thestart.
You're actually on.
Dave wears douchey sunglassesuntil ryan says something, and
(01:05:14):
you never said something.
You've been douched.
You've been douched by dave I.
Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
I want you to know.
Obviously I recognized youwearing aviator sun.
I assumed my first thought washonest to god the truth.
My first thought was heprobably has something on his
computer screen and that he'sgonna read later, and so he
doesn't want us because I knowthat a lot of times people who
(01:05:42):
do like youtube videos.
They'll wear sunglasses sopeople can't see their eyes like
trace across the screen.
So that's what I honestlyassumed.
I assumed you were beingprofessional.
Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Oh, and then I did
that to you instead.
Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I got to say you can
really pull off the sunglasses
while you record.
Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Yeah, they matched
your overall vibe, I feel right,
that's what I was saying.
Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
He looks like a
cooler Jimmy Buffett.
Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Well, maybe I should
start.
Maybe I should start wearingthem while we record.
I'll just wear a differentHawaiian shirt and those
sunglasses, or a different pairof aviators every time we record
from now on, you can, I mean Iwear.
Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
You want me to call
you?
Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Iceman, you may call
me Iceman.
Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
If you go back and
look at all our videos, I'm
literally wearing the same thingin all of them, because I
largely wear the same thing.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Every day, my
co-worker informs me that this
is because I'm autistic as hell.
Wow, Thank you, co-worker.
It's true, but you've got agood outfit, though.
It's definitely your costume.
It's like the Ryan.
Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Yeah, what are you
doing over there?
You doing something weird.
I'm laughing at you, oh, um.
So yeah, uh, let's wrap up thetopic and then do your thingy.
Do you agree, ryan?
Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Yeah, sure Go.
All right, that's good, causeRyan's the one that wraps it up.
So, ryan, fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Fuck, I thought, for
sure, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
Fuck so wrap up
failure.
Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Explain to us not
just failure but the plot of
Treasure Island.
Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Well, it's kind of
funny you mention that because
Treasure.
Speaker 3 (01:07:29):
Island is actually
kind of about failure if you
think about it.
Like long gone silverultimately fails in that movie,
in the, the, or the movie inthat book, and fuck, what's the
name of the?
What was the name of the piratefrom the beginning?
Billy bones, I can't remember,but that whole thing hinges on
the fact that he fucking failed.
But I mean, if you think aboutlike like I don't know, like all
(01:07:53):
great, you know mythologicalfigures have some element of
them.
You can even look at like KingArthur, or even Luke Skywalker
or Neo, you know failure is justit's inevitable, isn't it?
(01:08:13):
And I don't mean that in like anihilistic term, I just mean
that, like Bruce Lee said, likenobody wins every fight.
You know what I mean.
So like I think, if you neverfail, you never know how to deal
with failure.
It's the Kobayashi Maru.
Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Yep, for our
listeners who aren't fucking
dorks.
In Star Trek there's this testcalled the Kobayashi Maru, which
is a completely unwinnablescenario, and the test is
designed to be unwinnable andyou cannot pass it, and it's
designed specifically to teachyou how to handle failure, and
(01:08:58):
it's something that I think,like a lot of people just don't
do because we were.
You know, we're a success basedLike failure is punished in our
society.
Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
I think that's fair
to say, like, if you fail, like,
oh well, you're fucked, yourbusiness is you're done, or your
, you know, circumstances arebeyond repair.
So, whatever, like failure, isultimately punished in our
society Rather than, like youknow, learned from ultimately
Right, rather than, like youknow, learned from ultimately
(01:09:36):
right.
And I think, like that's the,the, the, as, as yoda put it in
the last jedi, failure is theultimate teacher.
And you know, as long as youallow yourself to like, actually
learn the lesson from yourfailure, then then it wasn't
really wasted, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
And the the old adage
.
In there's an old, I think it's, I think it's a samurai proverb
.
It's like if you fall downseven times, stand up eight.
And and so like when you, whenyou you don't in that capacity
like you don't fail until youstop standing up.
(01:10:16):
You know what I mean.
It's like you can keep gettingknocked down, but as long as you
, like I said, you learn.
You take that lesson and getback up again.
Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Chumbalumba style
yeah exactly, Brandon.
Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
thank you for that,
Although you know what's funny
is.
When you said that, in my mindI pictured Smash Mouth.
Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
No, because you get
back down, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
You fall back down,
but you get back up again
Pissing the night away, right.
Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Yeah, or is it
pissing his life away, pissing
the night?
Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
away, night away.
Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Pissing the night
away.
Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Anyway, yeah, okay,
I'm going to stop now.
You don't fail until you stoptrying, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Exactly, and even
then you can still learn from it
.
Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
So, yeah, and I think
that's ultimately like with
this episode.
What I wanted to do I know justus focusing on things that we
think we failed at isn't thecheeriest episode, but I kind of
hoped and I feel like we didsort of go through and view our
(01:11:30):
failures from another angle.
You know, I agree View ourperceived failures from another
angle.
Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
And I think that's
important, for if we're bringing
a little bit of mental hellnessto our listeners, I think
that's something that you shoulddo occasionally is try to look
at your failures from adifferent aspect and think know,
even though I failed at thisthing, how can I not only learn
from it but try to spin it intoa success next time?
(01:11:58):
Because, at least for me, it'seasy for me to be like well, I
failed.
I think it's a gifted kid thing.
Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
You know, I failed,
so obviously I'm never going to
succeed at it, fuck it yeah soit's hard to do I understand
like you want to be good atstuff and and it.
We and I don't know if it's agenerational thing or if, like
you said, it's a gifted kidthing or whatever, but there's
this, this element of like.
If, if I can't instantly begood at this thing, out the gate
(01:12:26):
, then I have clearly I'm, Ihave already failed, I have, I'm
humiliated, obviously, and soyeah yeah, I own four stringed
instruments that I don't knowhow to play, four separate types
of stringed instruments thatI've intended to try to learn
and I haven't guitar banjo,ukulele, mandolin no, mandolin,
(01:12:52):
bass, bass guitar is my otherone, uh, but anyway, let's bring
back this topic or this uhsegment thing I segment.
Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
thank you for the hey
, now you gotta stop.
Hey, would you eat it?
And the thing is, this timecaffeinated ramen noodles.
They're called boost noodles.
(01:13:23):
Oh my god, they come in a.
Have you ever seen theapplesauce?
You can get in a squeezecontainer and and slurp it on
the go.
Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
I hate what I'm
hearing.
Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
Yeah, it's like that,
but they're caffeinated ramen
noodles.
They're made for gamers, so youcan game with one hand while
you slurp with the other.
Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Okay, I hate the
premise.
They're called Boost Noodles,boost Noodles.
Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Now if they were
called Noodle Boosters?
Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I'd be boosters, then
I'd eat them nudes noodle
booster sounds like somethingyou'd call like a cute little
like oh, you love noodle booster, brandon brandon, it's
obviously like street viagra.
Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Yeah, exactly what I
was like.
Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
that's exactly what I
was thinking.
Exactly, ryan got it.
Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
I guess I'm too
innocent for my own good.
Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
I guess you made it
cute.
I liked it.
I need 20 of noodle boosters.
Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Can you ask the guy
behind the 7-Eleven 21 now?
What did you say?
Say it louder.
You think 21?
Noodle boosters.
Noodle boosters.
Noodle boosters I know youheard me.
Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
So caffeinated ramen,
you think you'd try it for a
quick boost of energy on the go.
Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
No, I'm not going to
eat noodles out of a pouch,
really Okay.
That's where you draw the linewith noodles?
Yeah, I don't think.
I mean, I don't think it wouldtaste good in this particular
instance, oh no.
Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
It would be like a
slurry, a sluice of noodles.
Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
So are they?
I have a lot of questions aboutthis without looking at the
product.
Are they long?
Are they long?
Are they like in there?
Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
long and you just
hope that they kind of like line
up with the end and get it like.
It looks like they are sosoaked.
Okay, so you know like, imaginechicken noodle soup like
Campbell's chicken noodle soup.
You know how the noodles are sosoft that they might as well
not even have texture at all.
They just like smush it lookslike that.
Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
So you kind of
swallow them more than you do
chew them.
Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Oh yeah, there's no
chewing involved.
Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Here's the thing I am
not a fan of this.
Here's the thing I have noproblem with noodles being in a
pouch, that doesn't bother me.
I have no problem with thembeing caffeinated that's cool.
That doesn't bother me.
I have no problem with thembeing caffeinated, that's cool.
Where I'm drawing the line isdefinitely going to be the
texture thing, because I dothink.
And also, do you heat these upor do you drink them cold?
Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
Room temperature.
Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
No, yeah.
So I would want some heat tothem.
If they had at least a littlebit of texture and they had a
little bit of heat to them, I'dbe fine with it.
But the texture and the roomtemperature aspect of it is not.
What flavor are they?
Are they like chicken and beef,I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Pork, I don't think
there's multiple flavors, I
think it's just one flavor it'sjust noodle.
Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
It's just noodle
flavored.
What flavor is this vegetable?
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
any specific one, or
just no.
Just the idea of vegetables iswhat it tastes like that's the
concept of vegetables yeah,that's actually a real life
scenario.
Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
We got a bunch of
food donated into our uh, into
our program and one was just acan that said vegetable.
And I was like what the fuck isthis?
And so ultimately I someonepointed out, dude, it's
vegetable soup.
And I was like, oh, I thoughtthis was just a can of vegetable
that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
It was like some kind
of government created vegetable
, vegetable 43 are we gonna do agray matter, munchies, david or
?
Uh, we've been going long.
We might as well do a quick one, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
So I'm feeling mighty
peckish.
Sometimes you need to watchstuff for your brain.
I don't have it memorized and Idon't have it in front of me.
So you know, go back and listento one where I was prepared.
And now let's talk about whatwe've been consuming for our
mental hellness.
Ryan, what have you beenconsuming for your mental
(01:17:51):
hellness?
Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Okay, have you been
consuming for your mental
illness?
Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
uh, okay, so I just
uh plowed through the uh two
seasons of the ring of rings ofpower oh yeah, uh, which was
fucking awesome dude, I've heardso many people be like rings of
power and shitting on tolkien'sgrave those people don't know
tolkien.
Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
This is the amazon
one right.
Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Yeah, the new amazon
show okay, yeah, those people
don't know, tolkien, this is theamazon one, right, yeah, the
new amazon show.
Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Okay, yeah, those
people don't know tolkien for
one thing and for another thing.
They're actually just madbecause black and elves and they
don't want to say that right,yeah, yeah, I could see that so
mad about there being blackdwarves and I was like, well,
all their fucking dwarves andelves, they're magical creatures
.
They can look like whatever thefuck.
We want them to look like dog,yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Also, there's lots of
media where there are actually
specific races of elves that aredark-skinned.
So come on.
Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
They've been around
forever, it's not weird?
And then the same thing withdwarves.
Same thing with dwarves infantasy, yeah, exactly, but the
show is.
I recommend it.
It's fucking awesome.
It's metal as hell as lord ofthe rings often is um, it is
good and, yeah, I, I thoroughlyenjoyed it yeah and actually I.
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Some characterizations arecloser to the the book versions,
like elrond half elvin, forexample, is uh much closer to
his characterization in thebooks than he is in Peter
Jackson's Lord of the Ringstrilogy, and that's not.
That's not a criticism, it'sjust an observation.
Speaker 1 (01:19:23):
Yeah, I and I've been
watching this and I've been
watching, like there's a, aYouTube channel that I I trust
the research and background ofquite a bit.
It's called new rock stars.
I don't know if you've everheard of it or watched it.
Well, we've been watching it,along with their take on it, and
there definitely are somethings that have been changed in
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the show.
Of course, that happens all thetime and some of the things
kind of big changes, but I don'tthink it's enough to where it's
detracting from the history andand lore of tolkien or anything
.
So are you current on it?
Yeah, I've seen.
I've seen it all.
Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
so you've seen the
season finale, okay?
So some people were bent out ofshape about that particular
character showing up, becausecanonically he's not supposed to
show up for like until thethird age, and I was like, oh
okay, well, have you consideredit's Awesome?
Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Yeah, it is awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Was it Boba Fett?
Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
It was Boba Fett, it
was.
Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Yeah, sorry to spoil
Jack Sparrow, jack Packhead.
Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Yeah, sorry to spoil,
it actually was Iron man, oh
yeah, yeah.
Same thing.
Um, it actually was iron man,but oh, yeah, yeah, same thing.
Really, I'd love.
I'd love a good crossover.
Yeah, well, disney's good forart.
This wasn't a disney production, but I feel like you know those
characters we just mentionedwere so, um, yeah, yeah, what
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have you been?
What have you been?
What are you munching on overthere, a little muncher I've
been playing no man's sky.
Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
Still a bunch, an
insane amount really.
Um, when you don't work and youhave nothing else to do besides
for jobs, I mean, how long doesapplying for jobs really take?
You know, everything's fuckingdone online anymore.
I can spend hours putting inonline applications but at the
end of the day, I still havehours free to myself and that's
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being taken up with no man's skyright on.
Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Yeah, um, a big
expansion just came out for no
man's sky a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Yeah, yeah they added
they're working on a new game
called light no fire and they'relike backwards.
They're taking the tech fromlight no Fire and putting it
into no Man's Sky Like the water.
They just had a huge waterupdate so the water looks crazy.
Now it looks really good.
So they added fishing.
It sounds boring as shit, butit's actually pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
I mean, there's a lot
of people that love the game.
Speaker 3 (01:21:50):
That's not boring.
That's not boring, that'ssoothing.
Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Yeah, it's a cozy
game, as they like to call it.
Now it is, and you can stillfly around your spaceship and
shoot pirates too, if you wantto.
Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
So I just decorated
my camp in fallout 70s hollow
nice, nice hell yeah, all right,so that's all I've been
consuming.
Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
David, have you been
consuming anything?
Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
uh, yeah, so we
watched uh the rest of the um um
rings of power series, like,like I said, uh, we're watching
uh agatha all along right now,which I need to watch that yeah,
you do, it's pretty good.
I've actually enjoyed it morethan I thought I would.
It's it's very hokey, um, asthey kind of made agatha's
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character in wandavision.
You know that definitely thatvibe carries over um and there's
a lot of musical numbers in itand stuff like that.
Uh, but I think they did it ina really, really entertaining
and good way, so far at least.
Um, and there's some goodlittle mysteries in there and
Aubrey Plath's character.
At first I was like I don'tknow if I'm going to like this,
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but they're actually what theydo with her and I think where
it's headed is going to bereally, really interesting and
cool.
So I highly recommend that.
Show-wise, I can't think ofanything else of note.
I've been playing a lot of videogames.
Beat the Hell Out of AnimalWell, which I could do an entire
episode on Just that.
(01:23:24):
That is an amazing, beautifulpixel art puzzle, side-scrolling
, platforming puzzle game thatjust has so many depths and
layers of puzzles.
It's a little tiny metroidvaniaon the surface and then there's
another crazy level that beyondthat there's another crazy
level and there's still probablya lot of stuff that people
haven't even discovered yet.
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And I heard a podcast calledthe besties that's got the
malkaroy brothers in it, um, um.
And one of the things they saidwhere they weren't trying to
give away any secrets about thisgame.
They said it actually entersinto your world, and I thought
what they meant by that was thatyou would think about it a lot
or there'd be some ARG type ofshit.
(01:24:07):
But there's a moment, if you dosomething in the game, where it
affects your world without youexpecting it, and it was the
most buck, wild thing, um, thatI've ever seen a video game do,
and I still think about it tothis to this day.
And I actually have something.
I always, always want to pullsomething off of my shelf,
(01:24:29):
that's like right up here, andshow it to you.
But again, I don't want to ruinit for anyone, just in case it
ever, um, yeah, in case you guyswant to play it, because that
is, that is.
I don't want to spoil thatmoment, because that's one of
those like what the fuck justhappened?
What did you just do, are you?
are you serious game, uh kind ofthing, and there's lots of
those moments, but that one inparticular was just kind of buck
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wild, um, so that kind of gotus on a puzzle game trip.
Uh, so been playing um, thewitness a lot, um, and that's
really good in different ways,like that's one of those games
where just it's it'smind-bending and then you solve
a puzzle or you finally think,oh, I know what the game wants
me to do here and you do it andit works, and you're like what
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the fuck?
Um?
And been playing inscription.
I've been playing uh, noita, um, what else I need to?
I need to go and beat baldur'sgate 3.
Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I haven't played that
for a while, but you know a
game you need to check out.
I know I always makesuggestions, but this is one
that's been getting a lot ofpress.
You might have even heard aboutit already.
It it's called UFO 50.
Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Yeah, I've been
thinking about picking it up.
Yeah, 50 different small gamesthat kind of tell one big story
and have puzzles and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Like a fake
production company that made
these games.
Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
It does sound cool.
I do think I want to pick thatup actually.
And then there's a game thatRyan needs to get so that we can
all play together, becauseBrandon and I played it the
other night, and that game iscalled Para.
What's it called?
Phasmophobia?
Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Phasmophobia.
Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
It is a terrible game
and an awesome game all at the
same time.
You want to describe it realquick, Brandon.
Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
So you're basically
ghost hunters.
You show up in a truck and youhave a bunch of ghost hunting
tools that you can take and youequip them on your person and
you go into a house and turn onthe lights and you have black
lights to see if there's ghosthandprints and you find all
kinds of weird stuff and thenthe house perpetually gets more
haunted.
Like you have a ghost journalthat you look at to be like okay
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, uh, the ghost is doing x, yand z, so obviously we're
dealing with an angry jinn,stuff like that.
Um, that's all stuff that wedidn't figure out, david, I know
no, we were just in the housedying over and over.
But yeah, it's a fun game and ifyou got it, Ryan, I don't know
if you'd be able to run it, butI don't think it's very
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intensive.
Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
So what is it on?
Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
PC.
I thought it was cross-platform.
Did we just go through that?
Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
It is coming out at
the end of this month on ps5.
Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Well, yeah, I'll look
into it.
I might be able to play withyou guys on.
If it's cross platform, thenyes, okay, cool, or if your
system could run it, becauseit's not too intense, I think.
I mean, it's like very notintense actually, like as far as
like a performance standpointis concerned, but, um, in
in-game lore, brandon and I aretwin brothers and uh, so we
think that we should, in-gamelore discover that we have a
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triplet, and that would be you,of course, and oh, we can, we
can make that work for sure, andmaybe we could even record a
special little episode for ourviewers and listeners as well.
Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
I would love to do
that.
Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
I would absolutely
love to do that.
That would be fun, all right,well, this is an hour and a half
long episode.
Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
All right, well, do
you guys have anything else you
want to say?
Anything, you need to get offyour big muscly chest before we
finish this episode.
Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
No, that I know of.
Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
All right, Well,
until we record again.
I've been your host for thisepisode, Brandon Fulch, Shepherd
of the Forest.
Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
And I have been your
very best friend, Ryan Brown.
Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
And I'm the man
kissed by all angels, david
Musgrave, and we're probably notokay.