Luann and Deborah discussed various urban legends and haunted places around Plano, Texas. They talked about the allegedly haunted Masonic Lodge in Plano and Deborah shared her experience using dowsing rods during a recent ghost investigation at a Masonic lodge. They also discussed the Ranch 111 urban legend and the Lady of the Lake legend at Flat Rock Lake. Deborah expressed her interest in Bigfoot stories from her hometown of Texarkana. They speculated about the potential influence of government mind control experiments, like the CIA's MK Ultra program, on individuals like Charles Manson. The conversation ended with a philosophical discussion about the nature of reality and whether it is created by our minds.
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