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Douglas Maida (00:12):
Good afternoon
and welcome to our show. We're
talking golf. My name is Douglasmaida and I'm your host.
Well, it has been another greatweek in golf. We had a fantastic
PGA Championship wrap up lastweekend with Phil Mickelson
becoming the oldest player towin a major championship.
This week, we watched theCharles Schwab challenge held at
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Colonial club in Fort Worth,Texas, where Jordan spieth had
another good showing in his homestate. But his final round 73
allowed Jason kolcraft to sneakby and claim the win after
shooting an even par 70 for atwo shot victory.
We also have the first matchplay event on the LPGA since the
Lorena Ochoa Invitational in2018. The women gathered this
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past week in Las Vegas to playshadow Creek, and after three
days of round robin group play,yesterday was the start of the
knockout rounds, with playersbeing eliminated until we
reached today's final match.
Today's final match was betweenAli Ewing and Sophia pop off.
valuing defeated Sophia pop offtwo in one to take the match
play championship. With AllieEwing's win today, another spot
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was opened up for this week's usWomen's Open. That last spot was
filled by Brittany Jada, ofHawaii, which brings the total
field to 155 players for SanFrancisco. Now our guest today
first joined us last year as oneof our very first guests on the
show. Amy Cho will be here todiscuss the 76th us Women's Open
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Championship that is coming upthis week from San Francisco at
the Olympic club.
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Now, back to our show. Here isyour host Douglas Maida.
Douglas Maida (03:08):
Welcome back to
the show, and thank you for
staying with us. Now let's getstraight to our guest. Joining
us today is Amy Jo. Amy is anLPGA Class A instructor. She's a
former professional playerhaving played on both a
symmetric tour and having earnedstatus on the LPGA.
She is also a TPI, certifiedgolf fitness instructor. With
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their knowledge and experience.
Amy is easily one of the mostpopular instructors on YouTube.
With over 300,000 subscribers onher golf with Amy channel. Amy
has an extremely easy tounderstand way of teaching golf.
Or as many of her followersknow. It's called Amy fine.
Making golf simple, fun andeffective. Welcome back to the
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show, Amy.
Aimee Cho (04:01):
Thanks for having me.
How are you Doug Douglas.
Douglas Maida (04:04):
I'm doing well.
I'm doing well. And we're so, sopleased to have you join us.
Thank you. So how have you beendoing since we last saw you Amy?
You're very busy.
Aimee Cho (04:19):
Yeah, I've been I've
been very busy this year, been
working a lot with the PGA Tourdirectly. They've been hiring me
as a Korean Korean reporter. SoI worked with them for the
Players Championship and theat&t Byron Nelson. So I've been
working really closely with theKorean guys on tour. And also I
was you know, at the LPGAtournament a couple times this
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year. So as an influencer, sothat was one as well. So yeah,
I've been very busy.
Douglas Maida (04:48):
Yeah, it's
terrific. It's always nice to
see you. Tell us a little bitabout this past week for you.
Oh, yes. You were guest spot asa guest analyst with CBS LA.
Yes. So what was that like? Howwas it experience.
Aimee Cho (05:00):
Yeah, I mean, it was
my first time being on like a
CBS live TV. I was on bothSaturday and Sunday for the PGA
Championship. And it was liveand I had a lot of fun. You
know, I love talking about golf.
I'm very passionate about golf.
So Jim Hill for CBS, LA. He'sbeen doing it for, like 20 years
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or something. So he was great.
He was basically just runningthe whole show. And I was just
kind of hanging out with him. Soit was it was a ton of fun. And
of course, you were therecovering the providing some
analysis on the PGAChampionship. Yes, yes. So what
are your thoughts? I mean, howexciting was it to have Phil,
when, you know, he made historyof like the oldest person ever
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to be in a major, it is almostage 51. Right. It was such an
exciting weekend, although otherthan the fact that I was on live
TV.
Douglas Maida (05:54):
We think about
Phil in his TPI background,
because that was something thatcame up a fair bit, particularly
after he won. And I noticedthere was a few posts about
that. And Phil himself putsomething out on social media
about how he's been working veryhard with his physical
conditioning, that it was nicefor it to pay off.
Aimee Cho (06:11):
Yeah. I mean, I mean,
you look at these guys, young
guys are on the PGA Tour,they're getting stronger,
they're getting fitter, they'rehitting it farther. And you
know, so they're, they're reallyprobably hard to keep up with,
especially when, you know, Philis 50, almost 51 years old. And
so I can see how he's beenworking really hard to keep up
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and it's paid off. And it wasquite amazing to really see him
kind of never finish in the top20. This any of this year, he
was well outside 100 on therankings. And then he just when
we thought he was going away,fading away, Phil goes, Hey, I'm
still here. Let me show you howit's done.
Douglas Maida (06:54):
So I guess the
part about Phil was that kind of
made the PGA Championshipsomething like not having to
worry about Tiger no TigerWoods, no problem. It was a
fantastic story to follow andget involved with and, and more
history was, it was an excitingweekend really was. What did you
think about Brooks Koepka theway he played with regards to
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his knee and managing to stay init so much. Right till the end?
Aimee Cho (07:19):
Yeah, I mean, you
know, he had his knee surgery in
March. And you know, he didn'tdo so well at the Masters,
obviously, because he didn'thave enough time to recover. I
was guessing. So I didn't thinkhe was going to show up for this
time, either. And I don't knowhow he does it, he always turns
it on for the majors. And therereally no other players that can
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do that. And I think he justgets a kick out of you know, you
know, playing the majors. That'swhy he kind of goes, Oh, it's go
time. So, you know, it was justreally amazing to, you know,
have them show up again and puton his a game and give Phil a
really good run at the end.
Douglas Maida (07:55):
Yeah, he does
seem to have that ability.
doesn't he? Amazing? Crazy. Anyother thoughts about the PGA
Championship PGA Championship?
Aimee Cho (08:03):
Um, I, honestly, you
know, with Phil winning, I think
everybody were like, so excited,because, you know, he, he has
the best interaction with thefans. I think I've whenever I'm
at golf tournaments, I alwayssee him stopped by juniors and
he always hands over his glovesand golf balls. And you know,
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everybody loves him for thepersonality he has. So have him
like set a history like this.
And when was amazing. I mean, Imentioned this during the live
TV, but you know how long we'vewaited for him to win a major
right?
Like they said, 12 years, wewere waiting and waiting. We
didn't think you're gonna do it.
And in 2004 masters, you wantit. And that was a super special
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day. And I thought this time wasjust as special for him to show
up at 50 and just win a major.
And it was it was an amazingweekend because Didn't he start
leading from like, round two orsomething? So it was a tougher
win because it's hard to winlike so many rounds. Do all that
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so many rounds in a row. Yeah.
And he was he was still near thetop of the leaderboard on after
round one. But yeah, by roundtwo, three and four. He was
Yeah, he was there. And the onethat counts the most is after
round four. Yes. I mean, I sawhim up there after round two. I
was like, he's probably gonna,you know, lose them and I and
then kind of falter, but he wasright up there.
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And then what was moreimpressive about his rounds, the
last round is that so after 10you know, the crowd started
getting really loud after hemade that birdie putt on 10th.
So we thought Game Over keptgoing never came back from that
10th you know when the roarstarted happening, so I was in
celebration mode with Phil forthe back nine but you know how
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tough that back nine was playingright? So you could see Phil
really sticking with his preshot routine, really trying to
not lose his focus and alwaysregroup before he hits and
thought that was very impressivefor Phil,
Douglas Maida (10:02):
Did you find some
good examples there that you
could use with some of thestudents that you work with?
Aimee Cho (10:06):
Yes, I always
emphasize pre shot routine,
especially if you've kind oflost your you know, you're calm
and you have to regroup. Philalways kind of takes a deep
breath. And then he really makessure he calms everything down
before he walks into the shop.
And I think that's somethingevery one of us can learn from.
Douglas Maida (10:27):
I was gonna say,
I noticed the PGA has a lot of
those Whoop bands for I imaginethat's probably a pretty good
way for the players to monitortheir body vitals and whatnot as
well.
Aimee Cho (10:37):
Yes, I guess so.
Yeah, doesn't hurt, right.
Douglas Maida (10:42):
All right, we're
gonna take a short commercial
break. And when we come back,we're gonna start chatting about
the 76th. U.S. Women's Open.
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Douglas Maida (11:53):
And we're back.
Thank you for staying with us.
Now we're going to move into thenext segment of our show, which
is drug addressing the 76th usWomen's Open, which will be held
at Olympic club in SanFrancisco, the historic venue is
going to be the first time hostfor the Women's Championship.
So Amy, you I see you have hadthe opportunity to play Olympic
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club. Yes. Why don't you sharewhat your thoughts are about the
course and what you thought ofit the elevated greens and
something from a player'sperspective that you noticed?
Aimee Cho (12:27):
Yeah, you know, I was
at the Media Day, which is held
about a month ago. So Media Day,just to explain briefly, they
invited the USGA invites peoplethat are involved in the media
category, and they have a pressconference, they usually have a
player too. They're doing thepress conference, and Michelle
Wie was there, because she livesfairly close to the course. And
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that was one I went up to askthe question as well. I asked
her, you know, other than beinga mom, and a golfer, for what
part of the game she's workingon. And then she said, putting
and everyone that laughed,including herself.
That was fun. And then I got toplay the 18 after the press
conference, it was a tough,tough Of course, it was in great
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shape. It was absolutelybeautiful out there, it was
super green, super blue hugetrees. The the undulation on the
golf course, is a lot biggerthan I thought it's it's
honestly felt like uphill onevery single hole. I don't know
exactly how long they're playingat this year. But I think I
played it close to 6700. And Iwas hitting rewards into just
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about every part for I mean,these girls on tour hit it
farther than me. So you know,they're they should have shorter
clubs into it. But appeal istough. The rough was only about
two or three inches long at thetime. You know, it's very short
for us open course they'reprobably have grown it out to
super deep rough. And it wasonly two to three inches, but I
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couldn't get the club throughit. It was very thick.
So I was just like, I hope noneof the girls ever get in the
rough during the U.S. Open,though. So the course was really
hilly kind of looked reallylong. But the greens were very
tiny guarded by a lot ofbunkers, deep bunkers. So the
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course looked even longerbecause the small greens and
then the bunkers. Oh my therehad so much sand in there. I
couldn't get out of it. I mean,I barely got out, didn't even
have chance to like put spin onit or control distance was very
tough.
Douglas Maida (14:36):
I was just
chatting with a player yesterday
who just finished the practiceround. And she was telling me
that the rough is now up toabout 12 inches. It's a good
foot.
So Exactly. And so I asked her Isaid Is there a Is there even an
intermediate cut between thefairway cut and then you get to
that one foot? She said no, Idon't remember.
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Exactly. And she said no. It'sfairway, or else you're in
trouble. She said that grass isso thick that don't even. I
mean, first of all, if you findyour ball, you're lucky. And
then don't even think abouttrying to advance it going
forward, you're just coming outsideways, get that ball back on
the fairway and get yourselfback into play to try and set up
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the next shot.
Aimee Cho (15:20):
Yeah, for how sticky
it was. If it's 12 inches, good
luck getting you know your clubon that ball, right? I actually
I did I filmed while I wasthere. So my vlog about the
Media Day is uploading Wednesdayon my YouTube channel.
Douglas Maida (15:35):
Oh, terrific,
terrific. So we can have our
listeners and readers, directthem to that video of yours and
your experience on the course.
Well, it's a great way ofshowing some insight into the
way Olympic's being played or isgoing to play and having it from
a player perspective. Instead ofa, as lovely as the flyovers
are. It's nice to see it fromthe perspective that you filmed.
Aimee Cho (15:57):
I hope so it was it
was really tough. But honestly,
it's so hard to see the hills,you know, through a TV, and I
just couldn't believe how hillyit was.
Douglas Maida (16:08):
Yeah, yeah, I
understand that. I mean, I've
seen photographs of it. I'veread a lot about it,
particularly from the 1955 usopen and the 65 us opens. I've
always understood it to beincredibly deceiving in its
locks. Because of the slopes andthings of that nature that the
fairways slope, like for exampleon 18 slopes from left to right.
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So you have to know which wayyou're going to take your line
off the tee and dependingwhether or not you hit your
drawing or, or fade and we'regoing to try and land it so it
doesn't roll all the way out theother end of the fairway.
Aimee Cho (16:43):
Yeah, I mean, when
you're on that hill, it doesn't
look very hilly either. It'svery deceiving when you're on
it, but then you realize you'reon a really big slope when you
see the ball start rolling tothe side. But yeah, you know,
you remember in 2012 when WebbSimpson won the men's Yes, open
there. He is total was plus one.
That's how topically?
Douglas Maida (17:04):
Exactly, exactly.
Yeah. Do you think on nearlyevery shot out of the fairway?
Do you think players are gonnahave to play the ball below
their feet or above their feet?
Aimee Cho (17:15):
I don't think
there'll be that many flat lies.
Yeah, I really don't think so.
Douglas Maida (17:22):
So there'll be
one or the other. Yeah, a little
bit below their feet or a littlebit above
Aimee Cho (17:26):
Or left foot high,
left foot low. Everything
really.
Douglas Maida (17:30):
And the greens
Now, you mentioned they're
small. What did you think abouttheir undulation? Because I, you
know, I understand that. They'realso very deceiving in that
respect that they look generallyflat, but they're far from flat.
Aimee Cho (17:45):
Yeah, I couldn't
figure out a pattern. It was I
took note down a where the lakeis where the high point of the
courses, and then it didn't goalong those notes. So I felt
like every square feet havedifferent undulation. And I
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couldn't catch all of that. AndI really struggled reading the
greens under elevated too. Soit's going to be at small. Yes.
And it was like over a monthago. So they weren't you know,
they didn't have them fast. Butit was still very fast.
Douglas Maida (18:20):
Yeah. The player
I spoke with yesterday said the
greens were fast. But sheexpected them to be faster by
Thursday come Thursday, becausethey had been looking after them
and watering them and I thinktrying to get them in prime
condition for for the four daysof the
Aimee Cho (18:36):
Yeah, they usually do
that. So they don't the greens
don't die too early in theround. I remember whenever I
played us opens I always had towork on flop shots for at least
two months prior to thetournament. Because that's all
you use on the greens.
Douglas Maida (18:53):
Yeah, why don't
you explain that to our people
at home listening? Why the flopshot. And why was that such an
important shot for you to havein the bag when you were playing
at a US Open.
Aimee Cho (19:03):
they usually keep the
greens really firm and really
fast, super slippery, the balldoesn't even roll it kind of
slide skids. So it's really fastand I'm used to using 58 degree
law pledge and I'm verycomfortable spending that but 58
degrees do not work for us opensso I'd have to get a 60 degree
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and get accustomed to the newloft and plus on a lot of flop
shots because the rough aroundthe greens are very thick and
also because when you're hittingout of the world you don't get
much spin anyways. So you'rebasically using flop shots for
even those very simple shotsyou'd never use block shots on
so yeah, US opens are verytough.
Douglas Maida (19:45):
So basically
you're using the flop shot and
the trajectory to land at softlybut is your in your ability to
put spin on the ball iscompromised?
Aimee Cho (19:52):
Yes. Even off like
tight, nice. You You see that
your balls not getting thebackspin that you always get a
just runs, and it will keeprunning until it gets off the
ground.
Douglas Maida (20:03):
It's a typical US
Open set up where even par is
going to be a really good scoreon any given round.
Aimee Cho (20:08):
So if, especially if
they are playing at 6700 like
I've I played it a month ago6700 on a long course with tiny
greens. It's going to be tough.
Douglas Maida (20:19):
Yeah, the
official yardage, just so you're
aware is listed at 65? Well, alittle under 6500 yards.
Aimee Cho (20:25):
Okay, good. Good. 67
was so tough.
Douglas Maida (20:30):
Well, and and for
those that don't live near the,
near the oceans, on eithercoast, just aren't familiar with
how much thicker the humidity isand what it does to your golf
ball and, and how it justdoesn't go as far.
Aimee Cho (20:43):
Right, right.
Exactly. Doesn't get the samecarry in the air.
Douglas Maida (20:48):
Yeah, that's what
I like about when you go to a
place like say Las Vegas or, youknow, in Colorado, or bras up
here in Canada, closer towardsthe Rockies in our part of the
world. And it's like, wow, thatgolf ball shirt goes on air.
Aimee Cho (21:00):
Yes, I love that.
Douglas Maida (21:02):
So let's chat a
little bit about some of the
players and storylines. Amy. ALim Kim. And I say that right?
Okay, perfect. defendingchampion, and kind of came out
of the blue last year in Houstonto win. Now, she went back to
play in Korea on the K LPGA. Andshe's back to defend her title
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now. Have you heard much abouther any thoughts about how she
might be for this? To defend hertitle this month or this week?
Aimee Cho (21:35):
Um, you know, I have
not heard too much about her.
She, um, she did kind of comeout of nowhere for us, right.
But I saw that she's third indriving distance, she averages
about 282. So I think that'sprobably why she had the
advantage during the US Open,because us opens do usually play
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very long. And it's kind of liketrends right now that when
you're kind of a rookie, youtend to win majors. So I think
she's right in that category. Soit's pretty amazing how the
young girls are just showing upturning pro and winning majors.
Huh?,
Douglas Maida (22:15):
Yeah. No kidding.
No kidding. Yeah, it's it's verydifficult. But the US Women's
Open. It's got to be one of thetoughest tournaments to repeat.
It's a winner. Yeah, I think thelast one who did it was Karrie
Webb - way back when -- was itKarrie or it might have been
Annika. One of those two was thelast time we had a back to back
winner at the US Open. So thattells you how, how tough it is
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and how far back you had to goto find a back to back.
Aimee Cho (22:42):
Yeah, yes, opens are
just no joke.
Douglas Maida (22:47):
And you can see
that from experience. Let's talk
about Inbee Park. She's aperennial favorite when it comes
to majors. And I get the feelingthat in a US Open course like
this kind of plays into Inbee'shands. She's not long off the
tee like a lot of the others.
But she's consistently in thefairway and, and she's probably
got the best mind I've seen onthe LPGA in terms of knowing
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where to place her ball and howto move around the course to get
herself into scoring position.
What are your thoughts?
Aimee Cho (23:18):
You know, she has a
lot of experience under her
belt. She's won like sevenmajors and two years opens in
2008 and 2013. She sure knowshow to keep the ball in play.
And that's probably gonna keepher out of the rough. And you
know, she's won the gold medalat the Olympics. And now because
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this year the Olympic issupposed to be on she's turned
her game on to win the goldmedal again, I think so she
she's got some really goodmomentum going. So you even
though she doesn't hit it toolong off the tee. She still
could be in the contention Ithink, Oh,
Douglas Maida (23:53):
I most definitely
think she's going to be in
contention. I mean, you know,she's not the longest off the
tee as we've said, but she'slong enough put it that way. And
her ability to find thosefairways is just incredible.
Aimee Cho (24:05):
Yeah. And she has she
has like 31 little wins is a
pro. That's a lot.
Douglas Maida (24:11):
While she's,
she's the only active playing
Hall of Fame member. Yes. Imean, that speaks for itself.
The other one I'd like to chat alittle bit about Patty
Tavatanakit .. I think will beanother fantastic storyline.
technically still a rookie comesout of Thailand. She kind of
steamrolled the field a littlebit at the ANA championship. I
mean, it got a little tight forher on that Sunday, but she was
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so far ahead going into Sundaythat she had some room to play
with and she still won. Rathercomfort right? That was really
what are your thoughts? She hitsthe ball pretty good. Yep. How
do you think she'll fare here?
No,
Aimee Cho (24:46):
I'm keeping a very
close eye on Patty Tavatanakit.
I think she's she's not thatbig. She's my height by five.
Douglas Maida (24:50):
She's just
coming off a really good showing
But she's like four thingsdriving average. She hits at
about 281 yards is her average.
And that ama, I believe sheaveraged about 320 for the week,
which is amazing, right? I mean,her hip turn was great. And she
really kept the ball in playin the match play event. Now
that's obviously Matchplay, buthitting that law. So I was very
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impressed by her play and justher style of play. It looks
aggressive, but very undercontrol. So I was I do love
watching her play because ofthat style. So I think she can
do some great things this year.
she seems to have control overshots and got her mind in the
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game right now. And I think sheused to did really well to use
that event as a tune up for thisweek.
Aimee Cho (25:44):
Yes, I think so. I
mean, you know, so far this
year, she's made like three topfives plus a win. So that's,
that's, you know, getting reallygetting your momentum going. So,
yeah, look out for her.
Douglas Maida (25:56):
Do you think she
has any sort of weakness in our
game?
Aimee Cho (26:00):
I mean, if we had to
pick one out, I would say just
the inexperienced youngerplayer, but I mean, she showed
us at ANA that you know, she shereally held her lead until the
end and one it so I don't knowif that's a weakness.
Douglas Maida (26:16):
And if it is,
she's learned how to manage it,
that's for sure. Let's chat alittle bit about some other
favorites or potentialcontenders.
Nelly Korda seems to be aperennial contender. She's long
off the tee. She's got a greatswing. When her iron game is on,
she's solid as can be. And shegives herself lots of great
looks at birdies. I thinkearlier in the year she was
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leading the tour and birdies.
She may still be I didn't get achance to
Aimee Cho (26:41):
Yeah, I think she's
Douglas Maida (26:44):
Okay. She just
hasn't seemed to manage to put
it all together for a major.
Aimee Cho (26:48):
Yeah, she hasn't won
on. She hasn't won a major. I
think she's a great player.
She's always one of my favoritesto watch. I'm always pulling for
her. You know, at the LA open, Igot to interview her because I
was out there as a media andshe's she's really chill really
laid back and she's got herstuff together. And a great
player. She gets it far too. Soshe's, she's pretty good fit for
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the US Open as well. Oh, yeah,she's driving averages top 10 on
tour, and she's right now raceto see me ranking. She's first,
on the roll extra anti. She'sfourth. So she's playing great.
But the major is right. She'sfinished well a couple of times,
but she's never won it. I thinkwhen I see players win majors,
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it's usually when they're ableto like stay focused, like the
motivation and they really haveto stay hungry. I think it's
just the half a second you letthat go. You kind of let it slip
away. So I think with her, sheis still pretty young, even
though she's been on tour forquite a few years now. So I
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think once she gets that going,she will be winning a lot more.
Douglas Maida (28:04):
Do you think this
will be her breakthrough event?
Aimee Cho (28:07):
I really hope so I
really, I really want to see now
even more because she definitelygot the talent. So it's just a
matter of starting one and theneverything else will just come
like all at once. I think
Douglas Maida (28:21):
Minjee Lee, she's
had a very good week in Las
Vegas. Except for that lastround. Where the wheel kind of
fell off with her a little bitthere. But she really stormed
through that group stage in thematch play. She's somebody
that's sort of been they'realways in contention but never
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quite able to put four reallygood rounds together to walk off
with the prize at a major
Aimee Cho (28:48):
Yeah, I totally
agree. I mean, she is one of my
another favorites that I'malways pulling for cause, she's
she's the sweetest person butshe's so serious when she's
playing. I love that. She's, youknow, competitor and she, I
mean, she's so focused, and sheplayed really well but I just
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can't believe she hasn't wonmajors. I remember I remember
she wanted the LA open. I wasreally happy for her. So she's
one of the players that I'mrooting for she she's not a long
long hitter but she's alwaysright in between like 260 to 70
off the tee which is still verygood. So she will do great on
long course. Land courses um,she's never really done well at
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the US Open i don't think sothat's one part that I'm a
little bit worried about. Oh,top finish was tied for 11th in
2017.
Douglas Maida (29:46):
Is that kind of
going to be her "quote unquote"
weakness for this week ... isjust having that little bit of
knowledge in the back of hermind knowing that she hasn't
been able to bring her best tothe US Opens or?
Aimee Cho (29:58):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure
Are the courses to suit you
really well. And if she hasn'tfinished in top 10 in any other
years US Opens may havesomething to do with you know
why she favors?
Douglas Maida (30:09):
Yeah, it seems
it's so important to have that
right mental frame of mind goinginto, especially something like
a US Women's Open where theconditions are just downright
punishing
Aimee Cho (30:19):
Yes, brutal. You make
one mistake, it could be a
double or triple, just likethat.
Douglas Maida (30:25):
Somebody else has
been playing fairly well in the
last few weeks and seems to bemoving in the right direction is
Moriya Jutanugarn?
Aimee Cho (30:32):
Ah ha.
Douglas Maida (30:35):
I mean, she's
very steady on the team. She's
another one that doesn't hit itthat far. But she hits it far
enough. And she definitely findsthose fairways. Really, really
Aimee Cho (30:47):
She's a very steady
player. Yes.
Douglas Maida (30:49):
Yeah, exactly.
Like, she rarely beats herself.
And with that approach game ofhers in that short game is
spectacular. I mean, and she wasalso in, you know, pretty good
contention last time in Houstonas well, for much of the event.
So what are your thoughts aboutMoriya have you any thoughts
about how she might approach it?
Or even Ariya for that matter?
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Um,
Aimee Cho (31:14):
I mean, you can't
beat steady golf on US Open
courses. But I think, you know,in my vlog that's going to
upload on Wednesday, I kind ofhad already picked my top five,
or the use open, and she wasn'ta part of it. I'm sorry. I think
I focus more on the drivingdistance and accuracy for the US
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Open. Just because, you know,there are so many likes of your
uphills and shorter shots intothe greens would really benefit
on this golf course.
Douglas Maida (31:43):
Alright, well,
we'll get to that a little bit
later, we'll have our chance toexchange our our picks.
Aimee Cho (31:48):
Okay.
Douglas Maida (31:49):
Yeah, I just
remember going back to I guess
it was Yeah, I guess it was atthe December. Us Women's Open
because both Aryan Maria playedthe third round together.
Aimee Cho (32:00):
Yes, that's right.
That's right.
Douglas Maida (32:02):
And I remember
Ariya saying that, you know, she
was her tee shot was always agood 30 yards ahead of Moriya.
But when they got up to thegreen Moriya was always closer
to the pin.
Aimee Cho (32:13):
I was wondering how
the girls will play play
together in one group, becausesometimes they may not, you
know, it may not work out aswell, because they might feel
like the same as like a practiceround and maybe not perform as
well. But yeah, I really washoping for both of them to do
well.
Douglas Maida (32:33):
Here's some other
names I'm gonna throw out you
throw out at you, Jin Young Ko.
very steady world number one.
She's been world number one now.
Over a year, I believe. And, andjust she very rarely beats
herself as well. Another one ofthose players that's just so
steady and phenomenal when itcomes to her accuracy. And well,
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she had that stretch last yearwhere she just played
unbelievable,
Aimee Cho (33:01):
really great player.
I'm just trying to figure outhow she's been doing so far this
year.
Douglas Maida (33:06):
Well, she's she's
played well, she came back. She
didn't play a couple of eventsearly, she came back. She
competed and was contending inone event. next event Wasn't she
actually missed a cut, which wasa rarity for her. And then she
came back and has played prettysteady ever since. So I almost
get the feeling that this is thekind of mental challenge that
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she likes.
Aimee Cho (33:30):
Yeah, I think COVID
kind of throw her off for a
little bit, don't you think?
Because she stayed in Korea fora little bit? And then what
Douglas Maida (33:37):
But she played in
Korea? Yeah, she played on the
Korean tour a lot while she wasstill there, you know. And she
she had her share of good playthere and brought it back over.
But yeah, I mean, it's it's hardwhen you're not back into the
rhythm. I mean, it's one thingtraveling in Korea, for golf
tournaments. And then anotherone here in the States going
from coast to coast to coast.
Aimee Cho (33:58):
You know, you know
what, what happened? I was at
the Lotte Championship. So I wasinteracting with a lot of the
players there. But I see thatshe wasn't there. So that's why
she was out of my radar. So Iwas trying to figure out how she
was doing this year. But I mean,I see that she finished top 10
at least four times so far. Soshe's been doing great, but I
can't believe how little mediaattention she gets. And she's
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like the number one player likeyou said for the longest stretch
ever, right?
Douglas Maida (34:26):
Yeah. No, without
a doubt with her. I think a
little bit of that is becauseshe did take that time off to
stay in Korea
Aimee Cho (34:33):
That's probably
right,
Douglas Maida (34:34):
and rightfully
so. and rightfully so. I mean,
you know, she's at that agewhere you don't want to take
chances. And I think that's kindof what contributed to it a
little bit. She came back forCME and did really well there
but she did play she finished.
Runner Up to Brooke Henderson inLA. She was in the final group
with Brooke. Yeah, I don'tknow if I can't recall if she
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finished second or not. She wasin the final group with Brooke.
Aimee Cho (35:01):
Tied for third.
Douglas Maida (35:03):
Okay.
Aimee Cho (35:04):
But she was in
contention. Yeah, I remember
seeing her.
Douglas Maida (35:06):
Oh, yeah. Yeah,
for sure. For sure. She was
playing really, really wellthere too. So I think that's
going to be something that is aplayer to watch for sure. Now,
one of the other ones I wantedto throw out there was Lydia Ko,
because she's been on fire. Shewas on fire at the ANA when she
posted that Sunday. I think itwas 62 or 63. Yeah. just
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phenomenal. And then she hadanother round like that in
Hawaii. You know, just shootingthe lights out. The new Lydia?
Yes. And she's made a point ofsaying, Don't ever think it's
the old Lydia. I'm back. She'sin some of her current media
conference. She says it's not.
I'm the new Lydia. And this iswhere I'm at today in time, and
this is going to be the bestthat I can do today.
Aimee Cho (35:55):
She's, she's awesome.
Yeah. I love her. I lovewatching her and she's actually
on top of my favorite pics forthis week.
Douglas Maida (36:06):
I won't ask you
to give away too much.
Aimee Cho (36:09):
But I mean, I was
really happy to see Lydia play
well starting in ANA like you'vementioned and then I saw her at
the Lotte Championship. Iactually know her pretty well.
She's the nicest girl but she'svery focused. And she mentioned
that her new coach Sean Foleywould say, you know, just, you
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know, you've got it you all youhave to do is just trust
yourself. And then she couldn'tquite bring herself to do that.
But because Sean believed in herso much it helped her to bring
ourselves to believe in herself.
And then things startedclicking. I saw her at Hawaii,
she looked very relaxed, and shewas just shooting everything at
the flag. And every single holewas almost a birdie chance. And
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she was playing really solid. Inoticed a slight difference than
the Lydia I saw last year, ayear before it was that her, her
legs got really strong, likereally a lot muscular even
though she's slim. Her legs wasreally strong, and her swing
look really different. And hershots were a lot more accurate
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because of that. Because if thelegs don't hold up, then the
shots can be going left andright. You know, so many shots
here and there. She didn't haveany of that her legs look great.
She was hitting it furtherbecause of that, probably. And I
have a lot of hopes for her.
She's Yeah, she gets it about260 off the tee. But I know
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she's she's got the total totalgame going right now. So yeah,
Douglas Maida (37:38):
Yeah, no, I think
you're absolutely right. You
picked up on a lot of the keythings that I've been noticing
about Lydia too. I mean, youknow, if you see her on
Instagram, a little bit likethat, you see, she's, she's
always documenting her workoutsand her mobility sessions and
whatnot. And she's, you know, Imean, she's not the 14 year old
kid, we remember on tour, Imean, she's all fully grown up,
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and she's really, reallystrengthened herself to you
know, and yeah, I noticed thatto her leg strength seems to be
just immensely improved overwhere she was just a few years
ago. And, and you caught it to60 as her driving distance. Now,
to the casual observer thatmight not sound far when we're
talking about like BiancaPagdanganan, and some of these
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other players who can hit it to280 to 290 - 300. You know,
talking about Patty 320 as anaverage it at ANA but for Lydia
260, I think, represents one ofher a big improvement over her
driving distance, I think. Yeah.
She's about another 10 yards, 10- 12 yards, 15 yards further
than where she was a few years.
Aimee Cho (38:42):
Yes. And, you know,
you have to understand that when
they get these driving averages,they usually have to take all
these missed drive shots thatended up in the rough, so that
was a lot shorter than usual, orthree words off the tee, you
know, you have to understandthat these averages probably
includes all those missed shotsas well. So when it says 260
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it's really a lot longer thanthat.
Douglas Maida (39:05):
And they only use
the two holes for recording her
measuring the
Aimee Cho (39:09):
so yeah, if you don't
do well on those two, then your
average goes down.
Douglas Maida (39:13):
I've been so
impressed with her game. I was a
little bit surprised at the 63that she posted to the 62 at
theANA, but I wasn't at thesame time. Just you know, when I
saw her take that driver out tohit off the deck to go for that
par five I'm like, this is theLydia you know, you can see the
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confidence in her and she justpulled it off and it was a one
of the most beautiful rounds ofgolf i've ... i've seen in that
I can remember to be honest. Ican't remember the last time I
saw a round that well,
Aimee Cho (39:45):
right, right. It's
just plain old slash new Lydia.
I love watching her do great aswell.
Douglas Maida (39:54):
Yuka Saso --
she's the Japanese Filipino
player. She's As you mentioned alittle bit younger, I think
she's 19 she was the goldmedalist at the, at the Asian
Games. And she won a couple oftimes on the Japanese LPGA last
year, which got her into Houstonfor the US Women's Open.
Aimee Cho (40:19):
Right, right. Right.
Douglas Maida (40:19):
She finished I
think 12
Aimee Cho (40:22):
Yeah, pretty high up
there. I remember
Douglas Maida (40:24):
She did and she
was actually in contention for
the first few days near the topof the leaderboard before she
had that one tough round; hitsthe ball a long way. She seems
to have all the tools in the bagthere, you know, good iron game.
She putts consistently well, hershort game is pretty solid. And
really no real weakness to hergolf game, except for maybe the
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the experience in terms of howto play these LPGA events.
Aimee Cho (40:52):
Yeah, you know, she
does surprise me a lot for how
young she is. She plays like sheshe knows how to handle her
game, or mental doesn't seem tofalter. It's really amazing to
watch her.
Douglas Maida (41:07):
She's very calm
and quiet. And now, I don't know
if it's because her Englishisn't as strong as her Japanese
and her Filipino Tagalog, but sothat might have something to do
with it. But yeah, yeah, I just,she kind of looks to me like the
quiet assassin. Yes, I wouldagree with that one.
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Brooke Henderson, she'sobviously a huge name up here in
Canada, and are the winningestgolfer professional player to
ever play in Canada, worldnumber five. And Major Champion
hits the ball a long way.
Probably the best iron game ontour along with Sei Young Kim,
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but she just doesn't seem to beable to put it together for us
women's Oh, I don't mean tolaugh like that. But it's just
like it almost, you know, likeyou're you and I were chatting a
little bit earlier about certaincourses for certain horses, if
you will, or certain tracks forcertain players. I think the US
Open is kind of one of thosebogey courses for her, bogey
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events that kind of has thatblock for her that she really
needs to get over. I think shecan win. But it's going to take
some work for her to, to put ittogether at a US Open.
Aimee Cho (42:24):
Yeah, you know, that
like really surprises me to
think that she's only won oneMajor? Because maybe because
she's won so many times on tour.
And with the game she has, likeyou mentioned, she hits it a
long ways. And she's veryaccurate. And I mean, she's
struggled with the pudding alittle bit recently. But
obviously at the LA Open youdidn't have any problems there.
So, you know, everybody saysshe's kind of back now. Because
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the putting she's doing better.
I'm really surprised to see hernot doing so well on us open
courses, because she just soundslike she's good fit for it.
Right? Her driving accuracy ispretty high too, for how far she
hit.
Douglas Maida (43:04):
Yeah, without a
doubt. And that's, and I think
that's part of, if you will themystery when it comes to Brooke
playing US Open courses. Now,her putter I think it's
reasonable to say that theputter has been her weakness or
Achilles heel when it comes tothat. And of course, when you
play a US Open, you've got tohave a good putter you can't be
three putting too often. Ifyou're going to be in
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contention, and one of thethings I've noticed is she's
still three putting a fair bitin nearly every event she's
playing even though she won inLos Angeles at the Hugel Open
there. She she still had quite afew three pumps. But she won. I
think she had four - three puttsin that event. Yes. So you take
those four stroke right there.
And you think if she was able toreduce those three putts, with
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those four strokes would havedone three or four strokes right
there would have opened the gapup that much.
Aimee Cho (43:56):
Yeah, you know, I was
really surprised to find out
that she had slipped out of like100 ranking for putting sets for
a little bit. I was verysurprised because she's still
been finishing pretty well not,you know, winning, winning all
the times. But she's a greatplayer. She's one of the players
that I really do love watching.
Like her and her sister, they'rea great team. They're very, you
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know, motivated. They're veryfocused. And it's like they take
their business seriously. And Ilove watching that and you know,
she's not big, but she reallygoes after it. It's such a fun
to watch her do well. And youknow, she was going for the
three peat at the low daychampionship when I was there.
And so I got to cover her a lot.
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And she she's just the sweetestgirl, but she turns into this
competitor when she's out on thegolf course. I love it. So I'm
always rooting for her.
Douglas Maida (44:51):
She's the baby
faced assassin. Yes, I know
we're using a few of these"assassin" terms, you know with
you go but I think that couldreally apply to you to Brooke,
she's got that smile. She's gotthat, you know, that Angel like,
face and smile,
Aimee Cho (45:06):
That sweet, like, you
know, very girly, sweet voice.
And then her eyes change.
Douglas Maida (45:14):
She's all, as
soon as that golf ball on the
tee go into the ground, it'slike, all business. Yeah, I'm
hoping that she's able to pullit together because she's, she's
always been a contender in a lotof the majors. But she hasn't
been able to close the deal asof late. And I think a large
part of that is because of thedepth on the LPGA now, I mean,
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it's not like it was 15 yearsago, or 20 years ago, where you
had, you know, maybe two orthree dominant players. Now
you've got a good 10 to 12players who can win on any given
week. And if they don't, you'vegot some pretty darn good
players who are middle rankplayers that can put it together
for four rounds, and they'llwin.
Aimee Cho (45:53):
Yeah. I mean, yeah,
so far this year, out of 11
tournaments, we've had 11different winners. So that
proves exactly what you werewhat you were saying.
Douglas Maida (46:02):
Well thank you
for that. It was one of the few
I didn't get a chance to look atbut
Aimee Cho (46:10):
there's so many stats
out there. It's impossible to
keep up with.
Douglas Maida (46:13):
Well, isn't it
isn't it? What are your
storylines going into it thisweek? Any thing in particular
that jumps out at you that wehaven't mentioned, Amy?
Aimee Cho (46:23):
This week?
Douglas Maida (46:25):
Yeah,
Aimee Cho (46:26):
I think we've covered
pretty much everything. I'm
curious, I'm sort of curious ofyour picks.
Douglas Maida (46:34):
Is this a case of
I'll tell you my picks and then
you'll share some
Aimee Cho (46:37):
Okay, you're okay.
Douglas Maida (46:41):
This is one of
the few where I it's going to be
hard to pick a winner. My twopicks as being the Ko's -- Jin
Young or Lydia.
Aimee Cho (46:52):
So you're just
picking the two Ko's?
Douglas Maida (46:55):
As my two as the
two leaders. I think those one
of those two, I think will beit.
Aimee Cho (46:59):
Wow. That's so cool.
Really,
Douglas Maida (47:06):
I think it's
gonna come down to one of the
Ko's. I just have that feeling.
You know? I'd love to see Brookewin it Yeah, I would love I you
know, I think I'd love to seeSei Young Kim, but I just think
that's it's just that I justdon't know if this is the kind
of setup that is reallyconducive to both Brooke and Sei
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Young Kim because I mean,they're just pedal to the metal
go for it kind of players. Andyou know, the combination, I
think of the narrow fairwaystall, rough, small greens. I'm
not. Well, you know what, theiriron play is so superb.
Aimee Cho (47:47):
But, but you know
what, we're gonna have a lot of
burden. You know, what, fromwhat you said media is, you
know, on fire, obviously, so shehas a great chance and with
genuine coaches, mentally verytough. So I think she can really
pull something off. So I thinkthose are really good choices,
actually.
Douglas Maida (48:07):
Yeah, if I was to
throw a third one out there. And
I don't want to say a dark horsebecause how do you call Inbee
Park and dark horse? Right. ButI think she's gonna be lurking.
Aimee Cho (48:20):
Because she's just
gotten her momentum going for
the Olympics. So she's her gameis pretty hot right now. So you
want to hear my picks?
Douglas Maida (48:29):
I do. I'm dying
to hear your picks.
Aimee Cho (48:31):
So I you know, in my
vlog, I picked five I told you
right. And I pretty sure afterlike the first rounds of the
five three are gonna be likeeliminated, I think. Right. So,
so my five will be Lydia, Patty,Nelly Brooke and Minjee. I know,
I know. But I really I think,other than for Lydia, the rest
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four I really want them to do. Ithink they really love you know,
so. Yeah,
Douglas Maida (49:03):
Exactly. They're
sentimental favorites. You
really want to see them finally?
Aimee Cho (49:10):
One of them win but I
really think Lydia has a great
chance.
Douglas Maida (49:13):
Yeah, I do, too.
You know, she's her rankings,not back up where it is with
some of the other players. Butwhen you can pull a 62 or 63 on
Sunday of a major championshipand then go out the, you know,
in Hawaii like she did. Andshe's taken a little bit of time
off to get herself ready for SanFrancisco. So I think that
that's, yeah, yeah. What can Isay? You know, I just think
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Lydia is opening a new chapterin the Lydia Ko story.
Aimee Cho (49:42):
Yeah, you know, you
know what's great about Lydia
that of another thing I noticedher when she is playing in
tournaments. You know, she'sbeen doing that since she was
very young. So she's verycomfortable out there. She looks
like she's just out here for awalk for a stroll. Seriously,
she's she's cutting Likecasually, chatty, very loose and
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to tee up and hit and everytournament round, she looks
super relaxed. And that probablyhas to give her a huge
advantage.
Douglas Maida (50:10):
Right? For sure.
For sure. You know, I mean, Ithink we all have that image of
her just walking down thefairway in her own little
thoughts. So she's thinkingabout things. Yeah. You know,
when she gets to her bag, pullsout her little, her little
container of watermelon.
Aimee Cho (50:25):
Exactly, exactly. And
I was actually helping LPGA
Korea for their Instagram, Itook over their handle, and I
was doing some video stuff. Andshe was seeing me and she like,
waves at the camera. Like, she'sjust, you know, like, came up
for a stroll or something. So,so comfortable out there. That's
great.
Douglas Maida (50:44):
So that's kind of
where I'm at. I liked your pick
on Patty. I'm kind of, she's oneof my favourite players out
there. I mean, she was afavourite, that I was following
when she was on Symetra. Andstill at UCLA, to be honest. But
I almost get the feeling thatshe could play the rest of this
year as a freebie, if you will.
She's already achieved herseason goals, I think by winning
the ANA and playing so darncompetitively, where she's at.
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She's played well, in a coupleof the other events. She's
played pretty. I mean, she wassteamrolling her competition in
the match play in Las Vegas upuntil that last match, but I
mean, she's almost she didn'tquite hold on in, in Thailand.
But you know, Ariya just playeda phenomenal final round that
day to win. I think she she'sshe's definitely one of the ones
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I'm going to watch because Iwill not be surprised if she's
the one lifting the trophy onSunday either.
Aimee Cho (51:38):
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I
don't think Thailand was a fair,
fair tournament to you know,judge anybody on because it
looked really humid and they alllooked exhausted. So I don't
think it was a fair test, youknow, but I mean, obviously, it
was. Because, you know, the Thaigirls did really well, I think
because of the weather. And theyhad the advantage because of
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that. But yeah, so I thought shestill did great. I mean, she
just looked really exhausted.
Douglas Maida (52:08):
No, I know. And
come that Sunday, you kind of
thought maybe she was going toshow the same form again and put
her foot down and make sure shewalked off with the trophy. But
yeah, yeah. Oh, they were allsweltering. And even the Thai
girls who play in that normally.
We're having a tough go of it.
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So
Aimee Cho (52:29):
their their face,
faces were all bright red, Lydia
icepack.
Douglas Maida (52:37):
Leave it to Lydia
to find a little bit of comic
relief and hit and hit home thepoint. Are you gonna be on site
at all? Are you going to beheading up to San Francisco?
Aimee Cho (52:50):
Oh, no, I've been
doing a lot of traveling. So I'm
kind of looking forward to acouple of weeks off. So I'll be
home watching. That's probablythe best spot.
Douglas Maida (52:59):
So what's up next
for you, Amy. I mean, you've
been so busy with lots ofthings. I know on your one
latest video clip, you'rementioning that you're back to
the grind in terms of back toteaching and doing some lessons
and things like that is that . .
.
Aimee Cho (53:14):
Oh yes. I'm teaching
once a week now at at West Ridge
Golf Club that's in La Habra,California. So I've been
limiting students to 10, 10people. So I'm trying not to go
over because then my schedulewill be too crazy. So that's
been really fun working withstudents again, working on their
golf swings. I've had couple ofstudents fly in from like, out
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of town, out of state and out ofcountry to work with me so far
this year. So you know, that'sbeen really fun.
Oh, not too long ago. You know,I was in Texas for AT & T Byron
Nelson. Right. I was there fromSunday through Wednesday. But I
already had lessons booked forlike Thursday and Saturday. I
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had students coming from like,out of state and out of country.
So I you know, I've had thatscheduled already. And then but
I had to go to Texas. So I cameback Wednesday, taught the
lesson. And then I had to go toAtlanta Friday to interview Sung
Jae. So it was it was a crazyschedule. When I came back
Friday night after the long dayof interviewing, working with
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Sung Jae Im Saturday morning. Ihad to go out on the golf course
for a plane lesson. So that wasthe craziest week and I'm still
trying to recover from thatweek.
Douglas Maida (54:32):
While you're
definitely one of the hardest
working people I know in golf,without a doubt Amy it's your
energy and enthusiasm is soimpressive and, and motivating.
Aimee Cho (54:41):
Thank you. Thank you.
Douglas Maida (54:44):
All right. Well,
it's gonna be an interesting
week to see for sure coming upin San Francisco. I'm looking
forward to it and I think a lotof people are are looking
forward to seeing the US Women'sOpen back in its traditional
slot after last year'sinterruption so
Aimee Cho (54:58):
I'm very excited.
Douglas Maida (55:00):
Yeah, me too.
We'll have to compare notesafterwards.
Aimee Cho (55:03):
All right.
Douglas Maida (55:06):
All right. Well,
thank you everybody for
listening in and downloading theshow. It's very appreciated. And
a super big thank you to ourguests. Amy Cho.
Aimee Cho (55:16):
Thank you for having
me. That was fun.
Douglas Maida (55:19):
Pleasure. And
that Ladies and gentlemen,
concludes our show for today.
Thank you for listening, and welook forward to seeing you in
two weeks time. Have yourself agreat day. And remember, when
you're out there playing golf,keep that golf ball on the short
grass. Bye bye.
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