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May 24, 2025 16 mins
In this special episode of West Virginia Talk, James and Jerry journey to the heart of Charleston to explore one of the state's most solemn landmarks. Through rich storytelling this episode brings to life the monuments that stand tall and carry the names of the men and women of our state that served in the armed forces. Discover the monument made with black granite walls, the symbolism behind it's design, and the deep emotional resonance it holds for families and visitors alike.  Whether you are a history buff, a proud West Virginian, or someone seeking meaningful locations, this episode offers a compelling and respectful tribute to the state's military heroes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Welcome in everyone, It's another episode of West Virginia Talk.
He thought we were done. We are not done. I'm James,
I'm Jerry.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Today's episode is one of reflection. We're talking about Charleston
not just as the capital of West Virginia, but today
is a city that removers.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah. Specifically, we're walking through the powerful soulmn spaces of
Charleston's war memorials. Uh those carved in stone, raised in bronze,
or simply held in memory. You know, it's kind of
gonna be a journey into silence as we reflect on
the sacrifice that people made for our state and for
our country, and also into the ways that a community

(01:06):
has come together to honor the sons and daughters who
gave everything for us. That's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Whether you've walked past these memorials daily or never seen
him before, today we give them a voice. Let's start
where every story of honor in Charleston. Again, it's the
West Virginia Veterans Memorial.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Now you're going to find this on the Capital Complex
grounds and it's gonna be flanked by the Golden Dome
with the Capitol Building, which is iconic across the land,
and of course the Kanawa River. Now I would tell
you be careful where you walk or which direction you
came from. You might miss it, but in this case,
I don't think it's even possible.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Thanks huge it is.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
It's towering, so once you see it, not only is
it impossible to miss when you get there, but it's
also impossible to forget once you've been there.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, it was designed by Charleston architect Ed Tucker. This
memorial honors West Virginians who died in World War One,
World War Two, the Korean War, and Vietnam War.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
And you know, honestly, I think they add to it
as it goes along. So I'm sure there's probably some
from a desert storm and whatnot, but I think it's
important to realize that this isn't just a wall. It
is a plaza made of polished granite. It's surrounded, well,
it's not surrounded, but it surrounds a shallow reflecting pool.

(02:31):
And it's built with four walls that stand tall at
all the cardinal points. And if you want to know
what the cardinal points are, in case you don't know,
that's of course north, south, east, and west, and each
represents a different conflict.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
There are thousands of names carved here and clean delivered lines,
men and women from towns, you know, small towns and
coal towns, river towns, all giving the lives in war.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
What hits you first, I think when you get there
is just the sheer silence of the place. So the
architecture intentionally created it in a manner in which it
forms kind of a hush and really forces you to
slow down and to feel the weight of those who

(03:17):
sacrificed everything. At the center of it are four bronze statues,
one for each branch of the military Army, Navy, Marines,
and Air Force. They don't stand tall on pedestals, they
are among you. And he did that on purpose, you know,
because the sculptor who is key. Joseph Mullins really wanted

(03:37):
them at eye levels, so that you meet them, you're
not looking up, you're not looking at you meet them
at eye level, just like you would your neighbor, your brother,
your sister. You're fill of West Virginians because that's what
they wore.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
And are right. There were over ten thousand names etched
into the granite of men and women that lost their
lives from the Mountain State. Too many to go over,
but each one has their own story, right.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
They all came from different walks of life, different races,
different background Some were still workers, some teachers, sons of immigrants.
It just took in everybody.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Right just steps away from the Veterans Memorials. Another recent
edition the gold Star Families Memorial Monument.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Now, this is something I've never seen. I've heard about it,
but I haven't seen it. And they say it got
dedicated in twenty twenty and as Raver reviews on people
who've gone to it, they say it's just absolutely striking
piece that brings honor to the families of service members
who never came home. So they wanted to a tribute

(04:45):
to the families that had to endure the pain along
with the pride that came of knowing that your family
member had served in given their life for something so large,
that pain that's left in their hearts, you know, that's
still going on. And so it gave them a place
to go and reflect and to remember their loved one.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
And this gold Star Family's memorials championed by Woody Williams,
a Medal of Honor recipient from West Virginia. His mission
was to ensure gold Star families had places to grieve
and reflect.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
That's awesome. So this memorial is black granite with a
hollowed out silhouette of a saluting soldier on one side.
Show one side shows four panels that depict homeland, family, patriotism,
and sacrifice, and the other is just pure reflection.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, it's visually striking, but emotionally even more than that.
Families gathered there not just to remember, but to feel understood.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Right in a way, it really is a memorial for
the memories that can't be carved in stone.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Right. So, of course these monuments are on the grounds
of the West Virginia Capital. So let's step inside the
West Virginia State Capital and you'll find more quiet tributes
that's right at the foot of the grand staircase of
the State Capitol. There is a massive plaque and it's
list medal of honor recipients from the state and we're

(06:14):
talking dozens of names. It's honestly as really humbly. Yeah,
you know what's in the rotunda historic battle flags from
West Virginia regiments in the Civil War. And that really
speaks to me. It's that's a big deal. So some
are tattered, they're barely holding together, yet they're preserved like
sacred artifacts.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
That's amazing. You know, there's something powerful about those old flags.
You know they've seen the smoke, the mud, the blood,
they've hung in battle. And to know that their final
resting is to hang in peace, that's that's cool. And
outside the capitol, cannons are placed outside from the Spanish
American War and the Civil War, placed as silent centuries,

(06:55):
if you will, so they're not just relics. They're actually
placed there ass that history lives in iron and cloth
and stone and still in us today.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, some of Charleston's war memorials aren't on plazas or
in museums. They're in cemeteries, quiet corners of memory. Yeah,
you know.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Take Spring Hill Cemetery, it's the largest in Charleston, and
among the wide and among the winding paths and ancient
oaks lie thousands of veterans, some without ornate headstones, others
mark with a bronze plate.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah. The veteran sections almost like Hallod Ground American flags
line of stones. Every Memorial Day and Veterans Day, bugles
play here and families kneel here.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
And nothing gets me like taps.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
It brings a tear to my eye no matter what
time of year it.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Is, especially when I play it because I'm not very good.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
There's also Sunrise Cemetery, which is a lot older but
quite a bit smaller, and it's got graves that date
back all the way to the Civil War. Soldiers from
both the Union and the Confederacy have been buried there
side by side. Probably not what most people would consider
a memorial anymore, but nonetheless it's a place that you

(08:12):
can go and reflect on those who did sacrifice in
in a major war.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Jerry, It's a reminder that history is complicated, especially in
West Virginia. So it reminds us the war doesn't have
clean lines, and that memory is shared.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
So Charleston also worked to preserve stories through voice, not
just stone.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's right. The West Virginia State Archives runs an oral
history program where veterans recorded their stories, first hand accounts
of combat, survival, and even coming home.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
You can hear the voice of a Vietnam helicopter pilot
who rescue wounded soldiers under fire, a Korean War infantryman
talking about frostbite. World War two, navymen remember the Pacific swells,
and my grandfather had fought in the Pacific theater world
War two, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Man, that's awesome. And of course these stories are housed
in the Culture Center, which is open to the public,
and so anybody that wants to go and to hear
these ken and honestly they should.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
And it's just a reminder you're hearing this firsthand. History
isn't just in books. It's a living memory absolutely.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
And I don't know about other people, but I learn
better when I visually see something or I listen more
so than reading. I just never have really picked things
up that way.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
And it's not hollywood. These these you know, people really
experienced what you hear, right, Yeah, So memorials don't just Stancehall.
They come alive during ceremonies too.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Absolutely, and every Veterans Day Memorial Day, Charleston holds public
ceremonies at the Capital Complex and sometimes they have veterans speak,
other times they may have students reading poems. And of
course you typically have have the wreath.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Lane and Jerry, your favorite song, Taps Taps has played
live every time you hear it.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Get you that single trumpet echoing across the lawn. Honestly,
I got chill bumps just thinking about hearing it right now.
So yeah, and you know what else throughout the year,
I want to recognize, and I know you do too,
these other service organizations that in our state and other
states that have really kept the flame burning for our

(10:31):
fallen soldiers. And that's of course the VFW, the American Legion,
and the Gold Star Mothers Association.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, these groups ensure that no sacrifice is forgotten. They
care for aging veterans, and they claim memorials, educate kids,
and honor our faller.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
They truly are the heartbeat beneath the stone.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, So why do we build memorials? Why does Charleston
have so many of them?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, unfortunately, like anything else when it comes to human
the human factor, memories fade. And unless we shape it
and put it in concrete and write it down and
the houses somewhere where we can future generations can walk
through it and hear it again and here spoken, it'll fade. Right.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
And if you think about it, it wasn't that long
ago that we lost the last World War One that
a West Virginia resident in Charlestown. And if I lived
long enough to reach that, you know, average age of
a man in this country, there probably won't be any
World War two vets either, right, So, yeah, it's important

(11:37):
that we keep that alive that way, you know, in
any way we can. Absolutely so, a name on the
wall becomes a story, a statue becomes a face, and
a flag becomes a prayer. Charleston's memorials remind us that
West regigion isn't just mountains and rivers. It's duty, courage,
and unfortunately sometimes lost. Yeah, and every one of these

(11:59):
places in vice you to reflect and to understand and
maybe to say thanks.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
There's probably something I don't do enough.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah. Well, so just just a reminder, folks, Uh, Charleston
is a place that you would want to head to.
For Memorial Day and this this war memorial at the
Capitol Complex. It's it's something to behold in person.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I was down there twenty seventeen, so I didn't get
to see the gold Star Memorial yet. But when I
when I was there with my wife and my kids,
I was like, this is like something out of Washington,
you know, it has that feel to it and that
that uh, that monument. I could spend a long long
time there just taking in everything that it has to

(12:49):
to offer visually, but once you walk away from it,
there's a lot to reflect on too. So it just
it's a reminder of how much the Mountain State has
sacrificed its people through all American mores.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Absolutely, so go down, check out the monuments, say a
name out loud, read a name out loud off of
that wall, because when you do that, you're helping keeping
their memory alive.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yep. And don't be surprised if you see some folks
shedding some tears there too. Absolutely, you know, going down
and remembering people they lost over the last you know,
since World War Two and Korea and Vietnam. So just
go down and while you're there, check out the capital
both of those will be open on Memorial Day noon

(13:38):
to five thirty the capital anyway, I think the Veterans
memorials open all the time, but there's a lot of
other places to go and to see in Charleston on
Memorial Day. So that's our show for today. From the
silent granted of the Veterans Memorial to the quiet voices
in the archives, Charleston remembers its own. So next time

(13:58):
you're in town, stop at one of these places. Say
a name out loud. That's how memory lives on. So
that's our episode for today of West Virginia Talk. I'm
James and I'm Jerry. Thanks for listening to everyone. This
has been a Jay and Jay production.
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