September 4, 2024 • 40 mins
rescuejoe84 has a nice three to discuss around memories with his grandfather: Yoshi, Dr. Mario, and Zombies Ate My Neighbors. We only derail the podcast slightly trying to understand Mario's credentials and if he is capable of moving up in the world.
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Channel 3. Is the future
Welcome crew to one of your 3A Channel 3 podcast where we take
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a member of the Channel 3 community, discuss three games
of their choosing, go through some honorable mentions and some
other odds and ends for a nice little video game discussion.
I'm Dan Tucker with me as always, Ray.
What's going on everybody? Tonight's guest is a long time
member of Channel 2. I mean been been here close to
the beginning. It is the one and only rescue
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Joe. Joe, how are you doing tonight?
Good guys, how are y'all? We're good excited to have you
here. We've got a list of games and a
theme for the list of games too.So I'm going to, I'm going to
send it over to Dan as we get this thing going.
Yeah, it's nice. You know, it's, it's funny as
we, we look forward to the threegames you picked here and it's
an interesting combination of them.
And thankfully there is a theme because otherwise I'm not sure
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how long a conversation would beabout some of these games.
You know, actually if you'd liketo introduce the theme you
picked and then we'll get started with your first game.
If you want to give us kind of apreamble for the structure of
the structure of the conversation or why you picked
the three games you did. Yeah, So the games I picked, you
guys will announce those. But these are games that I used
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to play with my grandfather. He was a Vietnam vet.
He was very quiet, man. But he is the only one that I
can remember during my childhoodthat played video games.
I mean, you know, my dad, my stepdad would, you know, jump
on, play a sports game or two. But like my grandfather was
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hardcore, like into Zelda, into the, he had the strategy books,
he had all of these. And he was like, I think that's
where my intro into gaming came in.
But these are a couple that I used to play with him.
And he's, yeah, since passed away about 12 years ago.
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But I think that's where my my gaming started was with my
grandfather. Let's let's celebrate then the
memories and let's start with your first game with Yoshi for
the Nintendo Entertainment System going back to the NES
days and not a not a strong rating on this one.
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So again. We're not.
Here, we're not here for goats, we're here for memories.
So. Get some for Yoshi, Yeah.
So, you know, it's the music. The I actually went on the
Nintendo Switch online and played it again the other day
just to make sure I can still play it.
But how's that? How's.
That. Going yeah, it went actually
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pretty well. I mean I was at started at the
gang level 12 and almost 5000 points.
So just the hand eye coordination, you know, what's
the shells really different likeyou?
Know you have Doctor, a lot of these games like you're going up
and down or flipping 360°. This is the one you're flipping
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left to right. And my brain, like I'll tell you
right now, my brain could never handle this game.
Like I could never. I could never get over it.
The flipping left to right. I mean, for the longest time I
would, you know, I'd get so frustrated with myself and flip,
flip, flip. And I'm a lot better now.
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So you have your, your your veteran grandfather, though.
That's that's what brought us tothis discussion of Yoshi and
Yoshi. 'S yeah.
So we used to play this, you know, I wasn't, I didn't see
them a lot. You know, my, my parents
separated when I was younger. So when I would go down there,
he had, when he knew I was coming, like if he played a
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game, you know, back then there wasn't saved files or anything
like that. He would leave the Nintendo on
to show me something or, you know, the next level he got to
or something like that. Just to, you know, he's like,
hey, look what I did this time or look what I've done in the
past and go through maps and stuff like that.
But other games aside, I actually have a in the box copy
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of Majora's Mask that I got whenhe he had, he still has the
book. It's in the box.
For the people looking for that,be careful.
Yeah, yeah. But so it's not going anywhere
I. Got to get cookie out of the way
because I said cookie and this isn't the cookie one, this is
the Sprite. Yeah, no, this is not the.
Cookie, this is the Mario Brothers.
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Three yeah, yeah. So yeah, we would, you know, it
was kind of a something we couldplay together, you know, just
shoot around. And like I said, he was, he
wasn't a he wasn't a talker. He, I mean he talked, but you
know, not about anything he everdid or he was quite a quiet man
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when it came to like conversation wise.
But I knew we could get on there, play a game and he would
open up a little. Not really, you know, like
stories, but you know, just something we could do together.
How did how did he pick the game?
So like, how did he pick Yoshi? I kind of you kind of see, we'll
talk about the other two games that are a.
Topless. But you know, seemed like there
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was a bit of an affection for kind of these puzzler games.
Yeah, and I don't, I don't know how it, you know, I don't
remember when he got it, but that was, you know, when I
remember playing games as a kid,Yoshi and the next game were two
of the big ones that we we always see, you know, that you
can do double screens or, you know, you play two player and
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you try to beat each other and we'll see, you know, how far we
can get and how much better I'd get each time or how much
farther than me he would go. It's funny you talked about he
was the he was the one who played video games, but other
people when your family weren't.And that's that's not usually
the case when you're looking at that generation.
I mean, the case of my family, you and I are, are pretty much
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the same age in the grand schemeof things.
And it worked its way back up. Like I members of my family got
my grandparents a Nintendo just to kind of have and they played
do the same thing. They played like Jeopardy and
they played kind of some puzzlergames.
They were they were not playing platformers.
They weren't, you know, they hadduck on for it, but that was
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just burking out when the the kids came over to to hang out
and relax. How?
How did your grandfather do you?Did you get any insight from him
of how he got into video games? I don't know how he got into
them. I know that.
So there used to be a flea market in North Alabama.
It's since closed. It was the I 59 Glebe market.
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If you're ever driving through, you know, Georgia to Alabama on
I-59, it's it's on the right about 10 miles into Alabama.
But they lived across the streetfrom it.
And he had this one guy that he would go, they would trade out
video games all the time. So I don't know where he
started, but I know that that's where he got a lot of the games
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that we ended up playing together and some of his
systems, and he would go in and trade that guy and they'd swap
out. So.
So was Yoshi one of the early ones that you had played with
him or was this why? Why was this the first one that
Why was this the first one you picked?
It when I thought about my you know, the theme, I was like, you
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know, these are the games that Iremember play and I can like I
said, I turned it on the other day.
The music, you know, and that's the first thing I thought of,
was playing with him, but I don't know why that one popped
up, but I do remember finally playing that one along with the
other ones that were there too did.
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You play against each other everwere you did you try and run up
scores on each other or is this just something that kind of kind
of just bonded and just relaxed and just kind of casually
played? I mean, obviously he was showing
you how far he went, but I didn't know if you guys ever
really went. Oh yeah, yeah, there's a there's
a two player mode. So it we would go against each
other, you know, even my my brother who wouldn't, he still
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doesn't play video games a lot. He would try to jump in there
with us and, you know, it'd be awhole thing.
But my brother got bored really easy and he had to go do
something else. But I could sit there and, you
know, I was, I guess I'm really quest oriented.
Like if I get to a certain point, I want to next time get
past that point, next point and.Don't worry, everybody's going
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to blame you now when I put the Yoshi tournament out there for a
OK. Yeah.
It's gonna, yeah, I'll be on thefirst round, but I think, I
think we might be on to something.
Here, Yeah, yeah. What I'm just trying to figure
out and Dan, you're older than me, so maybe you can help me out
with this one here. Thank you for pointing it out.
Yes. Is this?
One on here still I think but goon.
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Is Yoshi comes out for the NES ayear after Super Mario World was
out for the Super Nintendo. What like why, why are we were
we going backwards with this, with this brand new character?
You know, I mean, you know, obviously Yoshi shows up and
obviously is super popular rightoff the bat.
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And then they could go back and try to pull out a couple more
sales on the NES. Is this, is this what we're
doing with this game? You know, that's really kind of
curious because. I, I, I I looked it up.
I did. It didn't.
Think of that. It didn't occur to me because
I'm like, wait, this is NES. I'm like, hold on a second.
Because Yoshi definitely debutedin Super Mario World.
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So now I'm trying to figure out like the timeline of all this.
And it it, there's a whole year,year in between these two games.
Yeah, even even with the Japanese versus the like even
the Japanese release was after the Super Nintendo debuted here
and there, frankly. Yeah.
I mean, because they still had like Star Tropics to what
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something else? There were a few.
There were there was there were other games that still released
exclusively for the Nintendo still after this even.
I mean, they put this out later again, but.
It's funny you mentioned that, damn, because Star Tropics was
one of the other games that I had that was that, you know, was
one of those that he played all the time.
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I'm I'm trying to look now and see if I can figure out the
answer. Just it was developed in six
months. So it wasn't like that because
my next was like, oh, is this a long term development product?
Nope, no. They, they, they made it this
thing out in six months, Get it after.
Yeah. Yeah, now get get Yoshi on the.
It was probably one of those things because, because.
You know it. Looks like Miyamoto was
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involved. I, I don't know whether he's a
producer. I don't know how involved he was
with it, but it was probably something where, you know, it
was a transition point maybe for, for people going from the
Nintendo to the Super Nintendo. Maybe, maybe, you know, I don't
know how many people were looking to see I already have a
Nintendo. I don't need a Super Nintendo.
And, and understand like, no, maybe we'll tease them and bring
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them over. I I don't know that's I can't
find an answer for that question.
Oh, it's a weird one there. That is a weird one.
Well, let's go to second game onthe list, and Dan alluded to it
the whole we got another kind ofpuzzle game here is Doctor
Mario. And so we're still talking about
the NES, right, Original Doctor Mario arcade hit, ported and
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remastered over and over over the years.
So tell us, tell us we picked this is also just grandfather
picked this one up and you guys could play this side to side.
Yeah, yeah, it's, you know, it was a little different than, you
know, the side to side movement like Mario, it was the up and
down, but, you know, flipping the pills upside down, matching
them with the germs color to color.
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Yeah. It was just a, you know,
something we could do and try tobeat each other.
No, I don't. I don't know how you feel, but
the, the flipping the pills as opposed to Tetris and this game,
whether because people talked about it as similar to Tetris or
Nintendo bundling it with Tetriswhen they, when they put out the
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Super Nintendo as one, you know,giant thing afterwards.
Flipping the pills to me feels way less intuitive than like
spinning a, a Tetris piece. Like I, I, I always feel like
even we were playing it this week.
I always feel like I, I flip it the wrong way.
Like I never, I never know whichcolor is going to flip.
I don't. I don't know if that's just a
meat problem. Yeah, I mean you, you got one or
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two choices and you hope it flips the right way for you or
you end up flipping it six and seven times and it was right the
first. Time.
That's exactly what I do. All the time with.
It all right so and again this game much better received than
than the Yoshi one. This is 4 stars even on Channel
3. I mean, I for me, it for me was
like Nintendo 64. I think that was the first time
I I ended up playing Doctor Mario and I were that was like
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me and my my mom and I, and we played this one all the time.
Yeah, that's, you know, we played it, you know, just about
as much. We'd flip from the ocean to
Doctor Mario, you know, just continue our like you said.
I'm going to ask you, I'm going to ask you some some deep in
depth questions here. First one is do you accept?
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Do you accept that Mario has a doctorate or an MD of some sort?
Or, or is or is he faking this wait?
Which question are you asking? He has a doctorate or that he
has an MD? You know what that he has some
some higher, you know, some postsecondary.
You could still not legally be able to.
Prescribe. Medicine.
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I'm, I'm just, I'm just any any,any, you know, post secondary
education. This is really some anti blue
collar nonsense you're pulling here Ray I.
Really don't like this. Yeah, I just want.
To know, you know, I've honestlynever really thought about it
until you ask that question justnow.
I I don't know that I've ever really paid.
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Attention to you know, Ray. Ray has no problem when he goes
from general construction to plumber.
No, he's got no bro. Keep him in the blue collar.
Keep a man down. But you know, the second this
guy tries to go for some sort ofhigher education and break into
a white collar field, Ray's going to come here and stop.
Him I'm, I'm sorry, I'm no, thisis it's a little different.
You know, if you're if you're a handy, it's a little.
Different is right? I see how.
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It is for. Classic response to you here,
right? It's not a class.
If you're handy and you're, you're good with this thought,
I, I firmly believe that it'd bemuch simpler for you to pick up
a new skill because you're like in that mindset as opposed to
picking up a degree in some different sort of medical field.
I think they're a little different.
You know, maybe he was doing plumbing to pay his way through
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medical school. You know, not everybody just
gets. As possible, I guess.
So Yeah, stuff. Costs money, Ray.
Is absolutely let's. Say you work his way up through
the trades, What's wrong? With that, nothing at all.
My, I can show you. I can show you.
My uncle basically built his whole house and gets bored and
starts to ripping things out just to make them new again.
And that's what that's what he does all the time.
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I was just wondering, I'm just wondering if, if, if he's faking
it or he really has, you know, amedical license.
This is what? Well again.
You're asking two different things.
It says he's Doctor Mario. It does not say he's Doctor
Mario. Mario, MD.
OK, this is true, but a lot of times and I and I'm and I'm
opposed to this, you know, people just just say doctor
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instead of looking for the letters after the name.
Well. So here's the other problem
though, Ray. Like, how do you know he wasn't
granted, like an honorary Dr. from the University of Japan for
his services over the 10 years prior?
I mean, he became a worldwide figure.
How you know? Where do you draw the line with
an honorary doctorate? Right, like Shaquille O'Neal.
He's a he's a doctor. Shaq.
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Doctor Shaq, he is, he does havea has.
He hasn't. He has not only doctorate.
No, that's that's where I'm at. By the way, I don't think any.
Let me tell you, look, here's mystance.
I don't think you should be ableto be called doctor unless you
can practice medicine. That's what I'm not doing.
That's what I'll put that. I'll put that right now.
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Jokingly ripping Ray for some ofthis stuff, but now we're I'm
I'm out, I'm out. I'll put that out there right
now. If you, if you have doctor in
front of your name, you better have a prescription pad next to
you. Otherwise you're a person with
degree with with higher level degree and that's it.
I don't want to hear it. So how about that local sports
transfer? Oh wait, you're the transition
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next game. God, pull the RIP cord on this
ray. Did you, Did you, did you end up
playing other versions of DoctorMario besides the the original
1? The NES.
I have, yes. I I've played the one on 64 and
you know, it's just, I don't know, that's really different.
I I honestly I don't know if it's much different either.
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Yeah, yeah, I have played other versions of it.
All right, so let's go to game three because I want to, I want
to know how game three fits in with the other two because we
have these two like, you know, kind of scrolling down games and
now we have Mario's time machine.
Game number. 3. Was a little different.
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It was more. I know that when it came out it
wasn't where I received either, and I don't know that it is.
I don't think. I don't think it is still.
I played it as a kid. It was rough.
I did play it all the way through.
You know, we would go again, youcouldn't save stuff.
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So he would go through and play it when I wasn't there, write
stuff down, you know, because I was.
I may have been eight or nine atthe time and trying to figure
out all these, you know, Isaac Newton and Michelangelo and all
those that we're a little above my age range at the time.
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So he would go through and writestuff down, kind of not like
figuring it out, but clues that would help me, you know, push
along where I could do the game myself and not necessarily like,
play the game for me, but it was.
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But yeah, it was rough. Well, it's a tough game because
you know, some of these items, they'll give you the artifact
and they'll be like, well, we'renot, we're not going to tell you
when this is from Go, yeah, go all, go all the different worlds
and, and figure it out eventually.
And honestly, I think my favorite part of that was the
surfing, so. I.
Just going through and. I got that in the notes.
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Tell tell us about the surfing. Yeah.
So when you hit The Time Machine, you have to put in the
time, the year, and then it launches you into an I guess
it's like an ocean, but you haveto collect so many mushrooms
before you can get transported through time.
And then you have to go into allthe whirlpools.
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But I would just spend hours. Not hours, but a lot more time
than I should have just riding through the ways.
And a game just let it happen. It doesn't.
It didn't like shut down on you for taking too long to find
these mushrooms. You just, I mean, it's time
travel. There's probably no time at all.
You know, it was probably like, you know, 5 minutes in real
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time, but I could be surfing there for 35 minutes.
What do you say that that that whole of that that whole setup
is you surf until you eat enoughmushrooms so that time travels?
Becomes out. That's.
Listen, there are. People who still who can help
you with that, Ray, I don't recommend.
I'm not. I'm not.
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So listen, I got enough. If I find.
Enough. Most curious.
I'm not suggesting this one right, but.
It's if I lick enough switch cartridges will I travel through
time? Is that?
That's. How it works?
Yeah. Hey, I have I have an important
question here. Who does Mario think he is?
You know, Carmen San Diego travels through time and you
know they have the history knowledge, they have the
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education capable to travel through time.
Who does Mario a plumber think he is?
Travelling through time, breaking into a white collar
industry like time travel? I'm sorry.
So now he's just a plumber. No, he's a lot.
I'm just. I'm just real quick.
I'm. Asking the right questions here.
Now that's all I want to understand.
First of all, Mario joined the Street Ball league too, so let's
remember that one great game. Important.
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Education in the 90s enough mushrooms travel in time, right?
I don't understand what the question.
Figure out who gets back when he's done.
How do you I've never played this game.
I I didn't even know it existed.How?
How do? You, I don't think it's actually
on Channel 3. I looked and.
I no, it is. It is.
I'm going to. Update the IT is game #1343 and
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we have 8900 games in there. It's been in there for a minute.
It's Mario's time machine if. You put Mario's.
Yes, it shows up. I'm updating the search terms
now OK. That way, yeah, it showed up.
I had to look the one up too. What what is how do you beat
Bowser in this? I know you have to find you have
to answer the questions, but what does the actual battle
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versus Bowser look like? Do you still just do you jump
over him and hit a switch? Yeah, as far as I can remember,
I don't really recall a lot of it, but mostly just surfing and
going through time and then beathim at the end.
Well, I'm going to end it with this.
It can't be. It can't be worse.
It can't be worse than Super Mario Land.
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All right, Dan, we'll go for younow.
He's just like, you know what, he's back in school for a couple
weeks. I I like I know he's he's worn
down, he's sleep deprived, but the hot takes today it.
Can't be worse than Super Mario.Lamb, you had to be there,
right? You had to be there then.
For you got to be there for a game not made by the people that
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made Mario, but AB team and theyused to the B team said what if
we just changed everything that made the game good?
I'm also angry at the at the Kirby game I'm playing right
now. So that's that's not helping my
mood. I'm going to.
I'm going to write a review. About it week beef.
This has been going on. This is like like I, I know
these podcasts drop once a week,but like this has been going on
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for weeks now with you on Wednesday party nights on
podcasts. I was really hurt by that game,
a game that they they they thought about releasing as the
main game with the Game Boy. You could have tanked it if it's
if you don't, if they don't findTetris to put along with the
Game Boy Game Boy tanks. There's no no way no one could
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have played that game and thought it was good after
playing. The Mario series on the position
they were up against Little Tiger LCD.
Handhelds, but they were they were up against.
They were up against the first 3Mario games.
You pressed the B and the fireball bounced forward and the
rescue Joe. Is stuck on the.
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Rescue Joe When was the 1st? Time you touched the blade, I'd
say mid 90s I mean. Me too you.
Had you had all that power in the palm of your hand?
I only had half the power. I had a.
Pop playing by the street, was it not?
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You had all you had the games togo with you, Ray, whatever I'm
done with this. I'm not putting up.
I I can't deal with him today. You're not getting stuck in the
middle of this. All right, let's move on to
honorable mentions. We're going to talk about a
couple of games here that did not make the list.
Now the first one here, this onedid cross into into the
grandfather territory. I know your second game has a
bit of a different element to it, but zombies ate my neighbor.
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The I assume the Super Nintendo,not the Genesis.
Yeah, no, it's a Super Nintendo.Little, little they called.
LucasArts worked on kinet with this.
One on Konami Indie. Indie game.
Yeah, so it was just the, you know, it's one of those just
dumb games. You just play and run away from
the zombies and try to kill them.
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It's not anything. I mean you could say it was
skill based but. You need a skill to survive this
game. This was not.
This is and once again, listen to the lighter levels going
through. The yeah, let's be realistic,
this isn't marbles on stream level skill people this.
Is, yeah. You had to be able to move and
maneuver. And I I mean, doing it solo also
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is an entirely different beast than trying to play this game
with a second person. That was that Was this one one
you did play with your grandfather?
I did, I, I played a lot of soloand he would, he would watch.
There was a couple times where he'd jump in there, but you
know, going through the supermarket and going through
the the backyard or whatever it was over there and you know it
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was. Easy to get lost in the yard.
It's easy to get turned around. And get.
Yeah, you get turned around, youget.
Cornered too. Like you keep.
Yeah, you. You end up in the corner.
You're just dead. There's nothing you do.
You you run to the supermarket in the freezer area and then
you're surrounded so. How did this one So again, you
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played a lot of puzzle. You played the the Doctor Mars,
you played your Yoshi's of the world with him and, and again,
Mario's time machines. You know, a little bit of a
calmer game, a little bit of a chiller game.
This one's got that arcade overhead running gun.
Again, as silly as silly as it was, just to be clear, this
wasn't this wasn't Resident Evil.
This. Was this was kind of running
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around? But it's a much different game
than some of the other ones you described playing with them.
Yeah. And, you know, there was, there
was a lot of games that he played that I could have, you
know, put on here. But these are the ones that I
remember the earliest memories of playing games with him.
Like I said, he went through. He had strategy guides for all
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the Link, you know, Zelda games up to, you know, Ocarina of
Town, the door's mask. And, you know, he would Final
Fantasy games he played. I never, I'm probably going to
get yelled at for this one, but I've actually never played a
Final Fantasy game, so that's OK.
(26:33):
Yeah, somebody I haven't yet. I'll just get, yeah.
Ray has a Ray has an obligation to play one just to say he can.
I know, yeah. Maybe one day I gotta get that.
But just those stungy games, he played a lot of those, but I
think these were just more for my speed when I was younger,
(26:53):
that something he would just play and I think humor me
basically. So was this kind of that that
flea market farmers market fodder on 59 there like he would
just pick this this one up and. Yeah, he would go there and he's
like, oh, let's try this one. And then they'd go train them
out and he'd let him know what he thought about it and.
(27:15):
It's a it's a wild cover and you2 will know this is coming up
and enhance the next few days now 'cause I was like, oh, I got
I need to get this covered. This is an iconic cover.
We need this the color. I I guarantee you there were
people who get legit 112 hits onthis one because the color
schemes iconic and legitimate. Like if nothing else, it's
eye-catching cover art that if you're looking at a table of
(27:38):
just you know, because not a lotof these games, especially
there. I'm sure he wasn't getting a lot
of stuff in box, but you? Look around.
And you're going to see this cartridge sitting around for the
Super Nintendo and you're going to see that yellow and the red
streaks and like this this old school Romero zombie type vibe
on this this pop art and it's going to catch your eye.
(27:59):
Yeah. Let's go next game Ace Attorney
investigations. So are we playing this one on
ADS on on mobile? On the Switch when the
collection came out? I've never played this game.
The thing that intrigued me about it is the character's name
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is my last name. I have there are very few people
I have ever met with my last name of Edgeworth.
And then again comes out and my daughter was actually the first
person that told me about it. And I was like, are you kidding?
So I went and looked it up and Iwas trying to file.
(28:42):
I was like, how? I mean, because there's not, you
know, there's my dad, my brothers and me and then other
family, but I don't know that more than 5 or 6 someone with
the last name of Edgeworth in mylifetime.
(29:05):
So you've never played this game, It's just a matter that
you've found. Oh yeah, yeah, I found.
And you know, if, if somebody, you know, when this podcast
comes out is somebody else, you know, maybe there's another one
on Channel 3 we don't know about.
Maybe there's another Edgeworth.You know, just kind of
intriguing because like I said, it's not a very common last
name. Well, that just look at that.
(29:27):
Well, that just became a quest. I'm going to write down quest.
And I know that you know, we were wasn't kept less of the
fall guy movie. His name was Dan Tucker.
So oh. Oh yes, trust.
Me it was. Disturbing for both my son and I
in the theater. And the funniest part about the
(29:48):
like the, you know, you say justhe had your last name.
But the funniest part about thatone for me is there's not been a
lot of time in my life where I have been referred to as either
Dan or as Tucker. All too often, Dan Tucker is
said as one word through the course.
Even when I introduced myself inthis episode, I said, you know,
I'm Dan Tucker. Like it's it's not Dan.
(30:09):
I'm not looking for Dan. Hey, where's Tucker?
You know, there'll be a little bit of the last name action in
there, but where's Dan Tucker atis usually the use the phrase
and they did that throughout themovie.
I'm like, I feel attacked. I need to find out who the
writer was. Like, no, I don't know the
writer. I don't.
OK. I was worried it just it flowed
too much. And that was the weirdest.
Part about it wasn't like, oh, I've heard Dan in a, in a, in a
(30:30):
movie. You've ever heard Tucker in a
movie or a show before? But hearing him running around,
where's Dan Tucker? And I'm like, Oh my God, this
one, this one stings. There he is.
So yeah, that'll so that'll be aquest.
Find your first or last name in a in a video game and I'll we'll
do a bonus if you find your entire name in the game.
I don't I can't. I don't think there's a game.
I'm not sure there's a Hector Reyes in a game somewhere.
(30:52):
There's a million movies with with Hector as a character and
it's it's played by the same dude.
It's played by the actor and hishis name is Hector in every
single movie that they needed is, you know, some Hispanic guy
I remember. Who was it?
Bruce Almaty. Yeah, that's the guy.
He's an A. Every movie, he's got his name.
His character's name is Hector. It's absolutely amazing.
(31:13):
I love it. But yeah, that's, you know, it
was intriguing to me that that there was a game with my last
name. It's not very common.
Ray, I put, I put Jose Reyes on as I went through and did all
the MLB the Shows over the weekend.
At some point when I had a few minutes, I put that entire game
series into the library under the MLB The Show and and I put
(31:33):
Jose Reyes in as one. So you got a Reyes?
If you look at. This show series I got Jose
Reyes jersey on the back of. Well, that's my brother.
My brother is so serious. So he, he, I'm pretty sure he
had AI think he had a Reyes jersey just because of that.
Well, enjoy your quest people. They'll they'll show up at some
point. It might be this week.
(31:54):
So I think the Quest might show up before the podcast.
I'm I, well, I say I could, I'llsay that for the day of the
podcast, I got other ones I got to load up now.
But oh, there you go. All right, I'll be the one.
Well, let's talk. Oh, go ahead, Ray.
Sorry. To the future, To the future.
To the to the future we we have we have a couple games for the
future we're going to we're making a massive jump in time.
I I know we you know, a truly honorable mention for ace
(32:17):
attorney there, but we're we're jumping ahead from where we were
in the 90s with zombies ate my neighbor right up to the Legend
of Zelda echoes of wisdom, a game I wish they gave her the
wand of Gamelon in and a stance.I will continue to never forgive
Nintendo 4 calling it the the Tri wander, whatever it was they
did that that's that's not right.
But you're looking forward to tothis one.
(32:39):
A a a surprise announcement we got in the last Nintendo Direct
because they they don't announcegames more than six months out,
if not even less at this point and we're a month away from
getting this game. I think what's the what's the
release date on this one? Now I think about it.
I think it was early September. Yeah, we're, we are.
We are one month away from tomorrow, the recording of this
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September 26th. We're going to get this game.
It's it's going to be in our hands.
This is not a five year wait cycle here.
So you mentioned a history of a Zelda with your grandfather.
Again, he had the guides he had,you know, he he had the games
through time. You mentioned he had a a copy of
Majora's Mask that you've still got all of the they basically
intact, the box, the guide, everything for so Zelda's in the
(33:23):
history there too. Yeah, I think it'd be
interesting to see how they do this as the Princess, as the
hero, and not like. Yeah, I, you know, I first of
all, I was happy. I was kind of surprised.
I was happy just to see like a top down Zelda game coming back
again, right. And when they came in and you
(33:44):
saw that art style they had for the Lynx Awakening remake and
and I think it like it looks like it is it trying to take
place at the end of Link to the Past.
I'm still trying to figure out my my foe.
Ray's going to get upset and throw something across the room
about trying to establish Zelda timelines.
I'm not trying that hard, but I'm.
I'm totally, I'm OK with all thetimelines.
I think I, I, I like, I like thecreativity of that stuff, man.
(34:06):
Listen, I love like Pixar timelines and people connecting
all those movies together. So I'm, I'm all for it as Pixar
as we look, Quentin Tarantino. Movies connect them all right,
that's. Like as loosely as you can
connect it. I'm here for it.
I'm all in. Yeah, so was this.
So when I watched the direct live, I watched it later.
(34:26):
I didn't catch the direct live, but watching it and seeing you
know, she doesn't really have a weapon, you know she gets to
minute like the IT showed in thetrailer.
She found a table. She can make a table now so you
can climb up, but she can also the monsters that she fights,
(34:49):
she can also bring them on her side and use them as weapons
also so. Yeah, I'm excited about the fact
that like, yeah, you go back andplay Link to the Past, a beloved
game of mine. You have to play that game in
order. You have to go from temple to
temple to temple. You will always go to the same
pattern of temples at my. My muscle memory takes over and
(35:09):
I'm like, I, I, I start playing the game, I almost don't play it
because I it's like, oh, I got to go here.
I got to go here. I remember what happens in this
dungeon. Now I have to go to the other
end of the map and, and travel over here.
I don't think it's going to be the case with this game.
I think they're taking some of the openness from from the last
two Zelda games we've had. And like I, I think we're going
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to see what people do with this thing.
I think it's going to be some really wild stuff in the weeks
after this game comes out of well, here's how this person
beat the game in 10 minutes. And here's how this person, you
know, they, they did the exact opposite plan of what Nintendo
intended the temple order to be because they built 75 tables and
climbed across the entirety of Hyrule, or.
Whatever. Yeah, I mean, I, I feel like.
(35:50):
They're putting a lot of effort into making sure like they
they're not having rules in thisgame.
I feel like that that's the vibeI got from how they announced
this game. Like it's going to be chaos.
It's going to be beautiful. So I'm looking forward to that.
It's different. And the other one looking
forward to Mario Party Jamboree.Yeah, so we've got, you know,
we've got two kids. That's about the only games my
(36:13):
daughter will play. You know, kid will play more
games with me. But the Mario Party games are,
you know, there's I think 5 new Macs in this one and more
multiplayer that I've seen. I'm I'm all in on the
multiplayer. I'm done excited to to play
these giant Jamboree online and and see how well they hold up
(36:34):
with, you know, 20 something people playing. 20 something
people in there trying to run through a map, different games
and you know, I've played Mario Party ever since the Nintendo 64
and trying to do tug of war and running that joystick into my
hand. So yes, yeah, exactly.
(36:55):
I I hope. Davis on, wax on, wax off.
Yeah, I I honestly, I hope Nintendo takes latest starts,
you know, caring about us the way like Dragon Ball Z is going
to come out and everyone's worried.
Are you going to put spins in it?
And they basically said no, we can't we can't have people
breaking these controllers. They're just they're just
they're too expensive at this point.
(37:17):
So like no more spinning. Yeah.
And I'm like, yeah, please, justI'll like I'll tap you had.
Enough drift problems without you putting it please this game
please. Don't make me spin this
controller. And actually, you know that
spinning controller, I'm still using it to this day, so I it's
held up very well. I just remember all my N64, the
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analog sticks and all that wouldjust like droop over to the side
eventually. Oh.
Yeah, it does. It's gonna work.
It still work. Yeah, it still works.
I still use it. So I.
Just remember cleaning out like chalk of the broken controller
from inside. Like I'd take AQ tip and like
mop out the dust and debris of the controller being torn apart
from. The the GameCube controllers
would do that, especially the especially the wireless 1, the
(38:00):
wafer, because it had it had thelittle like Octagon indents in
it. And so those would really get
jacked up with you because it was not a circle and you were
spinning it in the circle. That's what I remember.
I love that. I love that controller.
Love the way bird little fatter little fatter than a normal game
U controller little thicker to hold.
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I won't. Now we take a quest, a question
from the Channel 3 history books.
Then we're going to pick for youto discuss here with us tonight
and the question I'm going to ask of you.
If Kirby ate you, what power would he get?
A power that Kirby would get Sarcasm, yeah.
(38:45):
Oh, it's biting. That'd be a great way to defeat
enemies. Yeah.
Yeah, the wit, it cuts me it. Cuts.
Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, I could say something, you know, being an EMT is
something there, but I don't Defibrillation sarcasm.
The sarcasm goes with it as a compensation.
No, I think I think you're good.I think you sold it.
(39:07):
I'm, I'm Kirby, I I'm trying to think if Kirby had a
defibrillator. I don't know if some reason some
reason I feel like I remember. Kirby had some sort of thing at
one point Lightning, but we're I'm.
Sure. Volts involved there.
Yeah, yeah. Like which?
Which ones? Yeah, I have to look back.
I'm going to have to look back at it now because I feel like.
There's a it has a little shock.Well, he said we had.
(39:27):
He said we had the electricity. That's.
That's yeah, yeah. And last question we ask
everybody, what's been your favorite feature on Channel 3?
I think the, all the events, youknow, I've gotten into a lot of
these events, hoping to get in more.
You know, my work schedule varies, so I get into what I
can, you know, during the summer, you know, playing The
(39:48):
Marvels on stream, that was fun.The kid got in there with me.
Sometimes he still plays during lunch then, you know, but, yeah,
just, you know, getting in theseevents, you know, meeting new
people. Let's start.
We've made it to the end of another.
What are your three podcasts? Thank you, Rescue Joe, for being
with us. You can find a podcast at C3 dot
GG slash podcast dropping every Wednesday morning at 333
(40:09):
minutes. Turn on all the major platforms
including Spotify, YouTube Musicand Apple Podcast.
I'm Ray. Dan puts this all together.
Our theme song is by Caster Garden and for our executive
producer, Joel Willis. Have a good day everybody.
Channel 3. Is the future.
Channel 3. Is the future
Welcome crew to one of your 3A Channel 3 podcast where we take
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a member of the Channel 3 community, discuss three games
of their choosing, go through some honorable mentions and some
other odds and ends for a nice little video game discussion.
I'm Dan Tucker with me as always, Ray.
What's going on everybody? Tonight's guest is a long time
member of Channel 2. I mean been been here close to
the beginning. It is the one and only rescue
(00:52):
Joe. Joe, how are you doing tonight?
Good guys, how are y'all? We're good excited to have you
here. We've got a list of games and a
theme for the list of games too.So I'm going to, I'm going to
send it over to Dan as we get this thing going.
Yeah, it's nice. You know, it's, it's funny as
we, we look forward to the threegames you picked here and it's
an interesting combination of them.
And thankfully there is a theme because otherwise I'm not sure
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how long a conversation would beabout some of these games.
You know, actually if you'd liketo introduce the theme you
picked and then we'll get started with your first game.
If you want to give us kind of apreamble for the structure of
the structure of the conversation or why you picked
the three games you did. Yeah, So the games I picked, you
guys will announce those. But these are games that I used
(01:37):
to play with my grandfather. He was a Vietnam vet.
He was very quiet, man. But he is the only one that I
can remember during my childhoodthat played video games.
I mean, you know, my dad, my stepdad would, you know, jump
on, play a sports game or two. But like my grandfather was
(01:59):
hardcore, like into Zelda, into the, he had the strategy books,
he had all of these. And he was like, I think that's
where my intro into gaming came in.
But these are a couple that I used to play with him.
And he's, yeah, since passed away about 12 years ago.
(02:22):
But I think that's where my my gaming started was with my
grandfather. Let's let's celebrate then the
memories and let's start with your first game with Yoshi for
the Nintendo Entertainment System going back to the NES
days and not a not a strong rating on this one.
(02:46):
So again. We're not.
Here, we're not here for goats, we're here for memories.
So. Get some for Yoshi, Yeah.
So, you know, it's the music. The I actually went on the
Nintendo Switch online and played it again the other day
just to make sure I can still play it.
But how's that? How's.
That. Going yeah, it went actually
(03:08):
pretty well. I mean I was at started at the
gang level 12 and almost 5000 points.
So just the hand eye coordination, you know, what's
the shells really different likeyou?
Know you have Doctor, a lot of these games like you're going up
and down or flipping 360°. This is the one you're flipping
(03:29):
left to right. And my brain, like I'll tell you
right now, my brain could never handle this game.
Like I could never. I could never get over it.
The flipping left to right. I mean, for the longest time I
would, you know, I'd get so frustrated with myself and flip,
flip, flip. And I'm a lot better now.
(03:50):
So you have your, your your veteran grandfather, though.
That's that's what brought us tothis discussion of Yoshi and
Yoshi. 'S yeah.
So we used to play this, you know, I wasn't, I didn't see
them a lot. You know, my, my parents
separated when I was younger. So when I would go down there,
he had, when he knew I was coming, like if he played a
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game, you know, back then there wasn't saved files or anything
like that. He would leave the Nintendo on
to show me something or, you know, the next level he got to
or something like that. Just to, you know, he's like,
hey, look what I did this time or look what I've done in the
past and go through maps and stuff like that.
But other games aside, I actually have a in the box copy
(04:31):
of Majora's Mask that I got whenhe he had, he still has the
book. It's in the box.
For the people looking for that,be careful.
Yeah, yeah. But so it's not going anywhere
I. Got to get cookie out of the way
because I said cookie and this isn't the cookie one, this is
the Sprite. Yeah, no, this is not the.
Cookie, this is the Mario Brothers.
(04:52):
Three yeah, yeah. So yeah, we would, you know, it
was kind of a something we couldplay together, you know, just
shoot around. And like I said, he was, he
wasn't a he wasn't a talker. He, I mean he talked, but you
know, not about anything he everdid or he was quite a quiet man
(05:15):
when it came to like conversation wise.
But I knew we could get on there, play a game and he would
open up a little. Not really, you know, like
stories, but you know, just something we could do together.
How did how did he pick the game?
So like, how did he pick Yoshi? I kind of you kind of see, we'll
talk about the other two games that are a.
Topless. But you know, seemed like there
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was a bit of an affection for kind of these puzzler games.
Yeah, and I don't, I don't know how it, you know, I don't
remember when he got it, but that was, you know, when I
remember playing games as a kid,Yoshi and the next game were two
of the big ones that we we always see, you know, that you
can do double screens or, you know, you play two player and
(06:00):
you try to beat each other and we'll see, you know, how far we
can get and how much better I'd get each time or how much
farther than me he would go. It's funny you talked about he
was the he was the one who played video games, but other
people when your family weren't.And that's that's not usually
the case when you're looking at that generation.
I mean, the case of my family, you and I are, are pretty much
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the same age in the grand schemeof things.
And it worked its way back up. Like I members of my family got
my grandparents a Nintendo just to kind of have and they played
do the same thing. They played like Jeopardy and
they played kind of some puzzlergames.
They were they were not playing platformers.
They weren't, you know, they hadduck on for it, but that was
(06:44):
just burking out when the the kids came over to to hang out
and relax. How?
How did your grandfather do you?Did you get any insight from him
of how he got into video games? I don't know how he got into
them. I know that.
So there used to be a flea market in North Alabama.
It's since closed. It was the I 59 Glebe market.
(07:04):
If you're ever driving through, you know, Georgia to Alabama on
I-59, it's it's on the right about 10 miles into Alabama.
But they lived across the streetfrom it.
And he had this one guy that he would go, they would trade out
video games all the time. So I don't know where he
started, but I know that that's where he got a lot of the games
(07:25):
that we ended up playing together and some of his
systems, and he would go in and trade that guy and they'd swap
out. So.
So was Yoshi one of the early ones that you had played with
him or was this why? Why was this the first one that
Why was this the first one you picked?
It when I thought about my you know, the theme, I was like, you
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know, these are the games that Iremember play and I can like I
said, I turned it on the other day.
The music, you know, and that's the first thing I thought of,
was playing with him, but I don't know why that one popped
up, but I do remember finally playing that one along with the
other ones that were there too did.
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You play against each other everwere you did you try and run up
scores on each other or is this just something that kind of kind
of just bonded and just relaxed and just kind of casually
played? I mean, obviously he was showing
you how far he went, but I didn't know if you guys ever
really went. Oh yeah, yeah, there's a there's
a two player mode. So it we would go against each
other, you know, even my my brother who wouldn't, he still
(08:33):
doesn't play video games a lot. He would try to jump in there
with us and, you know, it'd be awhole thing.
But my brother got bored really easy and he had to go do
something else. But I could sit there and, you
know, I was, I guess I'm really quest oriented.
Like if I get to a certain point, I want to next time get
past that point, next point and.Don't worry, everybody's going
(08:55):
to blame you now when I put the Yoshi tournament out there for a
OK. Yeah.
It's gonna, yeah, I'll be on thefirst round, but I think, I
think we might be on to something.
Here, Yeah, yeah. What I'm just trying to figure
out and Dan, you're older than me, so maybe you can help me out
with this one here. Thank you for pointing it out.
Yes. Is this?
One on here still I think but goon.
(09:15):
Is Yoshi comes out for the NES ayear after Super Mario World was
out for the Super Nintendo. What like why, why are we were
we going backwards with this, with this brand new character?
You know, I mean, you know, obviously Yoshi shows up and
obviously is super popular rightoff the bat.
(09:37):
And then they could go back and try to pull out a couple more
sales on the NES. Is this, is this what we're
doing with this game? You know, that's really kind of
curious because. I, I, I I looked it up.
I did. It didn't.
Think of that. It didn't occur to me because
I'm like, wait, this is NES. I'm like, hold on a second.
Because Yoshi definitely debutedin Super Mario World.
(09:59):
So now I'm trying to figure out like the timeline of all this.
And it it, there's a whole year,year in between these two games.
Yeah, even even with the Japanese versus the like even
the Japanese release was after the Super Nintendo debuted here
and there, frankly. Yeah.
I mean, because they still had like Star Tropics to what
(10:20):
something else? There were a few.
There were there was there were other games that still released
exclusively for the Nintendo still after this even.
I mean, they put this out later again, but.
It's funny you mentioned that, damn, because Star Tropics was
one of the other games that I had that was that, you know, was
one of those that he played all the time.
(10:43):
I'm I'm trying to look now and see if I can figure out the
answer. Just it was developed in six
months. So it wasn't like that because
my next was like, oh, is this a long term development product?
Nope, no. They, they, they made it this
thing out in six months, Get it after.
Yeah. Yeah, now get get Yoshi on the.
It was probably one of those things because, because.
You know it. Looks like Miyamoto was
(11:03):
involved. I, I don't know whether he's a
producer. I don't know how involved he was
with it, but it was probably something where, you know, it
was a transition point maybe for, for people going from the
Nintendo to the Super Nintendo. Maybe, maybe, you know, I don't
know how many people were looking to see I already have a
Nintendo. I don't need a Super Nintendo.
And, and understand like, no, maybe we'll tease them and bring
(11:24):
them over. I I don't know that's I can't
find an answer for that question.
Oh, it's a weird one there. That is a weird one.
Well, let's go to second game onthe list, and Dan alluded to it
the whole we got another kind ofpuzzle game here is Doctor
Mario. And so we're still talking about
the NES, right, Original Doctor Mario arcade hit, ported and
(11:47):
remastered over and over over the years.
So tell us, tell us we picked this is also just grandfather
picked this one up and you guys could play this side to side.
Yeah, yeah, it's, you know, it was a little different than, you
know, the side to side movement like Mario, it was the up and
down, but, you know, flipping the pills upside down, matching
them with the germs color to color.
(12:10):
Yeah. It was just a, you know,
something we could do and try tobeat each other.
No, I don't. I don't know how you feel, but
the, the flipping the pills as opposed to Tetris and this game,
whether because people talked about it as similar to Tetris or
Nintendo bundling it with Tetriswhen they, when they put out the
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Super Nintendo as one, you know,giant thing afterwards.
Flipping the pills to me feels way less intuitive than like
spinning a, a Tetris piece. Like I, I, I always feel like
even we were playing it this week.
I always feel like I, I flip it the wrong way.
Like I never, I never know whichcolor is going to flip.
I don't. I don't know if that's just a
meat problem. Yeah, I mean you, you got one or
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two choices and you hope it flips the right way for you or
you end up flipping it six and seven times and it was right the
first. Time.
That's exactly what I do. All the time with.
It all right so and again this game much better received than
than the Yoshi one. This is 4 stars even on Channel
3. I mean, I for me, it for me was
like Nintendo 64. I think that was the first time
I I ended up playing Doctor Mario and I were that was like
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me and my my mom and I, and we played this one all the time.
Yeah, that's, you know, we played it, you know, just about
as much. We'd flip from the ocean to
Doctor Mario, you know, just continue our like you said.
I'm going to ask you, I'm going to ask you some some deep in
depth questions here. First one is do you accept?
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Do you accept that Mario has a doctorate or an MD of some sort?
Or, or is or is he faking this wait?
Which question are you asking? He has a doctorate or that he
has an MD? You know what that he has some
some higher, you know, some postsecondary.
You could still not legally be able to.
Prescribe. Medicine.
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I'm, I'm just, I'm just any any,any, you know, post secondary
education. This is really some anti blue
collar nonsense you're pulling here Ray I.
Really don't like this. Yeah, I just want.
To know, you know, I've honestlynever really thought about it
until you ask that question justnow.
I I don't know that I've ever really paid.
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Attention to you know, Ray. Ray has no problem when he goes
from general construction to plumber.
No, he's got no bro. Keep him in the blue collar.
Keep a man down. But you know, the second this
guy tries to go for some sort ofhigher education and break into
a white collar field, Ray's going to come here and stop.
Him I'm, I'm sorry, I'm no, thisis it's a little different.
You know, if you're if you're a handy, it's a little.
Different is right? I see how.
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It is for. Classic response to you here,
right? It's not a class.
If you're handy and you're, you're good with this thought,
I, I firmly believe that it'd bemuch simpler for you to pick up
a new skill because you're like in that mindset as opposed to
picking up a degree in some different sort of medical field.
I think they're a little different.
You know, maybe he was doing plumbing to pay his way through
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medical school. You know, not everybody just
gets. As possible, I guess.
So Yeah, stuff. Costs money, Ray.
Is absolutely let's. Say you work his way up through
the trades, What's wrong? With that, nothing at all.
My, I can show you. I can show you.
My uncle basically built his whole house and gets bored and
starts to ripping things out just to make them new again.
And that's what that's what he does all the time.
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I was just wondering, I'm just wondering if, if, if he's faking
it or he really has, you know, amedical license.
This is what? Well again.
You're asking two different things.
It says he's Doctor Mario. It does not say he's Doctor
Mario. Mario, MD.
OK, this is true, but a lot of times and I and I'm and I'm
opposed to this, you know, people just just say doctor
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instead of looking for the letters after the name.
Well. So here's the other problem
though, Ray. Like, how do you know he wasn't
granted, like an honorary Dr. from the University of Japan for
his services over the 10 years prior?
I mean, he became a worldwide figure.
How you know? Where do you draw the line with
an honorary doctorate? Right, like Shaquille O'Neal.
He's a he's a doctor. Shaq.
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Doctor Shaq, he is, he does havea has.
He hasn't. He has not only doctorate.
No, that's that's where I'm at. By the way, I don't think any.
Let me tell you, look, here's mystance.
I don't think you should be ableto be called doctor unless you
can practice medicine. That's what I'm not doing.
That's what I'll put that. I'll put that right now.
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Jokingly ripping Ray for some ofthis stuff, but now we're I'm
I'm out, I'm out. I'll put that out there right
now. If you, if you have doctor in
front of your name, you better have a prescription pad next to
you. Otherwise you're a person with
degree with with higher level degree and that's it.
I don't want to hear it. So how about that local sports
transfer? Oh wait, you're the transition
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next game. God, pull the RIP cord on this
ray. Did you, Did you, did you end up
playing other versions of DoctorMario besides the the original
1? The NES.
I have, yes. I I've played the one on 64 and
you know, it's just, I don't know, that's really different.
I I honestly I don't know if it's much different either.
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Yeah, yeah, I have played other versions of it.
All right, so let's go to game three because I want to, I want
to know how game three fits in with the other two because we
have these two like, you know, kind of scrolling down games and
now we have Mario's time machine.
Game number. 3. Was a little different.
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It was more. I know that when it came out it
wasn't where I received either, and I don't know that it is.
I don't think. I don't think it is still.
I played it as a kid. It was rough.
I did play it all the way through.
You know, we would go again, youcouldn't save stuff.
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So he would go through and play it when I wasn't there, write
stuff down, you know, because I was.
I may have been eight or nine atthe time and trying to figure
out all these, you know, Isaac Newton and Michelangelo and all
those that we're a little above my age range at the time.
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So he would go through and writestuff down, kind of not like
figuring it out, but clues that would help me, you know, push
along where I could do the game myself and not necessarily like,
play the game for me, but it was.
(18:40):
But yeah, it was rough. Well, it's a tough game because
you know, some of these items, they'll give you the artifact
and they'll be like, well, we'renot, we're not going to tell you
when this is from Go, yeah, go all, go all the different worlds
and, and figure it out eventually.
And honestly, I think my favorite part of that was the
surfing, so. I.
Just going through and. I got that in the notes.
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Tell tell us about the surfing. Yeah.
So when you hit The Time Machine, you have to put in the
time, the year, and then it launches you into an I guess
it's like an ocean, but you haveto collect so many mushrooms
before you can get transported through time.
And then you have to go into allthe whirlpools.
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But I would just spend hours. Not hours, but a lot more time
than I should have just riding through the ways.
And a game just let it happen. It doesn't.
It didn't like shut down on you for taking too long to find
these mushrooms. You just, I mean, it's time
travel. There's probably no time at all.
You know, it was probably like, you know, 5 minutes in real
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time, but I could be surfing there for 35 minutes.
What do you say that that that whole of that that whole setup
is you surf until you eat enoughmushrooms so that time travels?
Becomes out. That's.
Listen, there are. People who still who can help
you with that, Ray, I don't recommend.
I'm not. I'm not.
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So listen, I got enough. If I find.
Enough. Most curious.
I'm not suggesting this one right, but.
It's if I lick enough switch cartridges will I travel through
time? Is that?
That's. How it works?
Yeah. Hey, I have I have an important
question here. Who does Mario think he is?
You know, Carmen San Diego travels through time and you
know they have the history knowledge, they have the
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education capable to travel through time.
Who does Mario a plumber think he is?
Travelling through time, breaking into a white collar
industry like time travel? I'm sorry.
So now he's just a plumber. No, he's a lot.
I'm just. I'm just real quick.
I'm. Asking the right questions here.
Now that's all I want to understand.
First of all, Mario joined the Street Ball league too, so let's
remember that one great game. Important.
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Education in the 90s enough mushrooms travel in time, right?
I don't understand what the question.
Figure out who gets back when he's done.
How do you I've never played this game.
I I didn't even know it existed.How?
How do? You, I don't think it's actually
on Channel 3. I looked and.
I no, it is. It is.
I'm going to. Update the IT is game #1343 and
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we have 8900 games in there. It's been in there for a minute.
It's Mario's time machine if. You put Mario's.
Yes, it shows up. I'm updating the search terms
now OK. That way, yeah, it showed up.
I had to look the one up too. What what is how do you beat
Bowser in this? I know you have to find you have
to answer the questions, but what does the actual battle
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versus Bowser look like? Do you still just do you jump
over him and hit a switch? Yeah, as far as I can remember,
I don't really recall a lot of it, but mostly just surfing and
going through time and then beathim at the end.
Well, I'm going to end it with this.
It can't be. It can't be worse.
It can't be worse than Super Mario Land.
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All right, Dan, we'll go for younow.
He's just like, you know what, he's back in school for a couple
weeks. I I like I know he's he's worn
down, he's sleep deprived, but the hot takes today it.
Can't be worse than Super Mario.Lamb, you had to be there,
right? You had to be there then.
For you got to be there for a game not made by the people that
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made Mario, but AB team and theyused to the B team said what if
we just changed everything that made the game good?
I'm also angry at the at the Kirby game I'm playing right
now. So that's that's not helping my
mood. I'm going to.
I'm going to write a review. About it week beef.
This has been going on. This is like like I, I know
these podcasts drop once a week,but like this has been going on
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for weeks now with you on Wednesday party nights on
podcasts. I was really hurt by that game,
a game that they they they thought about releasing as the
main game with the Game Boy. You could have tanked it if it's
if you don't, if they don't findTetris to put along with the
Game Boy Game Boy tanks. There's no no way no one could
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have played that game and thought it was good after
playing. The Mario series on the position
they were up against Little Tiger LCD.
Handhelds, but they were they were up against.
They were up against the first 3Mario games.
You pressed the B and the fireball bounced forward and the
rescue Joe. Is stuck on the.
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Rescue Joe When was the 1st? Time you touched the blade, I'd
say mid 90s I mean. Me too you.
Had you had all that power in the palm of your hand?
I only had half the power. I had a.
Pop playing by the street, was it not?
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You had all you had the games togo with you, Ray, whatever I'm
done with this. I'm not putting up.
I I can't deal with him today. You're not getting stuck in the
middle of this. All right, let's move on to
honorable mentions. We're going to talk about a
couple of games here that did not make the list.
Now the first one here, this onedid cross into into the
grandfather territory. I know your second game has a
bit of a different element to it, but zombies ate my neighbor.
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The I assume the Super Nintendo,not the Genesis.
Yeah, no, it's a Super Nintendo.Little, little they called.
LucasArts worked on kinet with this.
One on Konami Indie. Indie game.
Yeah, so it was just the, you know, it's one of those just
dumb games. You just play and run away from
the zombies and try to kill them.
(24:28):
It's not anything. I mean you could say it was
skill based but. You need a skill to survive this
game. This was not.
This is and once again, listen to the lighter levels going
through. The yeah, let's be realistic,
this isn't marbles on stream level skill people this.
Is, yeah. You had to be able to move and
maneuver. And I I mean, doing it solo also
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is an entirely different beast than trying to play this game
with a second person. That was that Was this one one
you did play with your grandfather?
I did, I, I played a lot of soloand he would, he would watch.
There was a couple times where he'd jump in there, but you
know, going through the supermarket and going through
the the backyard or whatever it was over there and you know it
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was. Easy to get lost in the yard.
It's easy to get turned around. And get.
Yeah, you get turned around, youget.
Cornered too. Like you keep.
Yeah, you. You end up in the corner.
You're just dead. There's nothing you do.
You you run to the supermarket in the freezer area and then
you're surrounded so. How did this one So again, you
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played a lot of puzzle. You played the the Doctor Mars,
you played your Yoshi's of the world with him and, and again,
Mario's time machines. You know, a little bit of a
calmer game, a little bit of a chiller game.
This one's got that arcade overhead running gun.
Again, as silly as silly as it was, just to be clear, this
wasn't this wasn't Resident Evil.
This. Was this was kind of running
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around? But it's a much different game
than some of the other ones you described playing with them.
Yeah. And, you know, there was, there
was a lot of games that he played that I could have, you
know, put on here. But these are the ones that I
remember the earliest memories of playing games with him.
Like I said, he went through. He had strategy guides for all
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the Link, you know, Zelda games up to, you know, Ocarina of
Town, the door's mask. And, you know, he would Final
Fantasy games he played. I never, I'm probably going to
get yelled at for this one, but I've actually never played a
Final Fantasy game, so that's OK.
(26:33):
Yeah, somebody I haven't yet. I'll just get, yeah.
Ray has a Ray has an obligation to play one just to say he can.
I know, yeah. Maybe one day I gotta get that.
But just those stungy games, he played a lot of those, but I
think these were just more for my speed when I was younger,
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that something he would just play and I think humor me
basically. So was this kind of that that
flea market farmers market fodder on 59 there like he would
just pick this this one up and. Yeah, he would go there and he's
like, oh, let's try this one. And then they'd go train them
out and he'd let him know what he thought about it and.
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It's a it's a wild cover and you2 will know this is coming up
and enhance the next few days now 'cause I was like, oh, I got
I need to get this covered. This is an iconic cover.
We need this the color. I I guarantee you there were
people who get legit 112 hits onthis one because the color
schemes iconic and legitimate. Like if nothing else, it's
eye-catching cover art that if you're looking at a table of
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just you know, because not a lotof these games, especially
there. I'm sure he wasn't getting a lot
of stuff in box, but you? Look around.
And you're going to see this cartridge sitting around for the
Super Nintendo and you're going to see that yellow and the red
streaks and like this this old school Romero zombie type vibe
on this this pop art and it's going to catch your eye.
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Yeah. Let's go next game Ace Attorney
investigations. So are we playing this one on
ADS on on mobile? On the Switch when the
collection came out? I've never played this game.
The thing that intrigued me about it is the character's name
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is my last name. I have there are very few people
I have ever met with my last name of Edgeworth.
And then again comes out and my daughter was actually the first
person that told me about it. And I was like, are you kidding?
So I went and looked it up and Iwas trying to file.
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I was like, how? I mean, because there's not, you
know, there's my dad, my brothers and me and then other
family, but I don't know that more than 5 or 6 someone with
the last name of Edgeworth in mylifetime.
(29:05):
So you've never played this game, It's just a matter that
you've found. Oh yeah, yeah, I found.
And you know, if, if somebody, you know, when this podcast
comes out is somebody else, you know, maybe there's another one
on Channel 3 we don't know about.
Maybe there's another Edgeworth.You know, just kind of
intriguing because like I said, it's not a very common last
name. Well, that just look at that.
(29:27):
Well, that just became a quest. I'm going to write down quest.
And I know that you know, we were wasn't kept less of the
fall guy movie. His name was Dan Tucker.
So oh. Oh yes, trust.
Me it was. Disturbing for both my son and I
in the theater. And the funniest part about the
(29:48):
like the, you know, you say justhe had your last name.
But the funniest part about thatone for me is there's not been a
lot of time in my life where I have been referred to as either
Dan or as Tucker. All too often, Dan Tucker is
said as one word through the course.
Even when I introduced myself inthis episode, I said, you know,
I'm Dan Tucker. Like it's it's not Dan.
(30:09):
I'm not looking for Dan. Hey, where's Tucker?
You know, there'll be a little bit of the last name action in
there, but where's Dan Tucker atis usually the use the phrase
and they did that throughout themovie.
I'm like, I feel attacked. I need to find out who the
writer was. Like, no, I don't know the
writer. I don't.
OK. I was worried it just it flowed
too much. And that was the weirdest.
Part about it wasn't like, oh, I've heard Dan in a, in a, in a
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movie. You've ever heard Tucker in a
movie or a show before? But hearing him running around,
where's Dan Tucker? And I'm like, Oh my God, this
one, this one stings. There he is.
So yeah, that'll so that'll be aquest.
Find your first or last name in a in a video game and I'll we'll
do a bonus if you find your entire name in the game.
I don't I can't. I don't think there's a game.
I'm not sure there's a Hector Reyes in a game somewhere.
(30:52):
There's a million movies with with Hector as a character and
it's it's played by the same dude.
It's played by the actor and hishis name is Hector in every
single movie that they needed is, you know, some Hispanic guy
I remember. Who was it?
Bruce Almaty. Yeah, that's the guy.
He's an A. Every movie, he's got his name.
His character's name is Hector. It's absolutely amazing.
(31:13):
I love it. But yeah, that's, you know, it
was intriguing to me that that there was a game with my last
name. It's not very common.
Ray, I put, I put Jose Reyes on as I went through and did all
the MLB the Shows over the weekend.
At some point when I had a few minutes, I put that entire game
series into the library under the MLB The Show and and I put
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Jose Reyes in as one. So you got a Reyes?
If you look at. This show series I got Jose
Reyes jersey on the back of. Well, that's my brother.
My brother is so serious. So he, he, I'm pretty sure he
had AI think he had a Reyes jersey just because of that.
Well, enjoy your quest people. They'll they'll show up at some
point. It might be this week.
(31:54):
So I think the Quest might show up before the podcast.
I'm I, well, I say I could, I'llsay that for the day of the
podcast, I got other ones I got to load up now.
But oh, there you go. All right, I'll be the one.
Well, let's talk. Oh, go ahead, Ray.
Sorry. To the future, To the future.
To the to the future we we have we have a couple games for the
future we're going to we're making a massive jump in time.
I I know we you know, a truly honorable mention for ace
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attorney there, but we're we're jumping ahead from where we were
in the 90s with zombies ate my neighbor right up to the Legend
of Zelda echoes of wisdom, a game I wish they gave her the
wand of Gamelon in and a stance.I will continue to never forgive
Nintendo 4 calling it the the Tri wander, whatever it was they
did that that's that's not right.
But you're looking forward to tothis one.
(32:39):
A a a surprise announcement we got in the last Nintendo Direct
because they they don't announcegames more than six months out,
if not even less at this point and we're a month away from
getting this game. I think what's the what's the
release date on this one? Now I think about it.
I think it was early September. Yeah, we're, we are.
We are one month away from tomorrow, the recording of this
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September 26th. We're going to get this game.
It's it's going to be in our hands.
This is not a five year wait cycle here.
So you mentioned a history of a Zelda with your grandfather.
Again, he had the guides he had,you know, he he had the games
through time. You mentioned he had a a copy of
Majora's Mask that you've still got all of the they basically
intact, the box, the guide, everything for so Zelda's in the
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history there too. Yeah, I think it'd be
interesting to see how they do this as the Princess, as the
hero, and not like. Yeah, I, you know, I first of
all, I was happy. I was kind of surprised.
I was happy just to see like a top down Zelda game coming back
again, right. And when they came in and you
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saw that art style they had for the Lynx Awakening remake and
and I think it like it looks like it is it trying to take
place at the end of Link to the Past.
I'm still trying to figure out my my foe.
Ray's going to get upset and throw something across the room
about trying to establish Zelda timelines.
I'm not trying that hard, but I'm.
I'm totally, I'm OK with all thetimelines.
I think I, I, I like, I like thecreativity of that stuff, man.
(34:06):
Listen, I love like Pixar timelines and people connecting
all those movies together. So I'm, I'm all for it as Pixar
as we look, Quentin Tarantino. Movies connect them all right,
that's. Like as loosely as you can
connect it. I'm here for it.
I'm all in. Yeah, so was this.
So when I watched the direct live, I watched it later.
(34:26):
I didn't catch the direct live, but watching it and seeing you
know, she doesn't really have a weapon, you know she gets to
minute like the IT showed in thetrailer.
She found a table. She can make a table now so you
can climb up, but she can also the monsters that she fights,
(34:49):
she can also bring them on her side and use them as weapons
also so. Yeah, I'm excited about the fact
that like, yeah, you go back andplay Link to the Past, a beloved
game of mine. You have to play that game in
order. You have to go from temple to
temple to temple. You will always go to the same
pattern of temples at my. My muscle memory takes over and
(35:09):
I'm like, I, I, I start playing the game, I almost don't play it
because I it's like, oh, I got to go here.
I got to go here. I remember what happens in this
dungeon. Now I have to go to the other
end of the map and, and travel over here.
I don't think it's going to be the case with this game.
I think they're taking some of the openness from from the last
two Zelda games we've had. And like I, I think we're going
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to see what people do with this thing.
I think it's going to be some really wild stuff in the weeks
after this game comes out of well, here's how this person
beat the game in 10 minutes. And here's how this person, you
know, they, they did the exact opposite plan of what Nintendo
intended the temple order to be because they built 75 tables and
climbed across the entirety of Hyrule, or.
Whatever. Yeah, I mean, I, I feel like.
(35:50):
They're putting a lot of effort into making sure like they
they're not having rules in thisgame.
I feel like that that's the vibeI got from how they announced
this game. Like it's going to be chaos.
It's going to be beautiful. So I'm looking forward to that.
It's different. And the other one looking
forward to Mario Party Jamboree.Yeah, so we've got, you know,
we've got two kids. That's about the only games my
(36:13):
daughter will play. You know, kid will play more
games with me. But the Mario Party games are,
you know, there's I think 5 new Macs in this one and more
multiplayer that I've seen. I'm I'm all in on the
multiplayer. I'm done excited to to play
these giant Jamboree online and and see how well they hold up
(36:34):
with, you know, 20 something people playing. 20 something
people in there trying to run through a map, different games
and you know, I've played Mario Party ever since the Nintendo 64
and trying to do tug of war and running that joystick into my
hand. So yes, yeah, exactly.
(36:55):
I I hope. Davis on, wax on, wax off.
Yeah, I I honestly, I hope Nintendo takes latest starts,
you know, caring about us the way like Dragon Ball Z is going
to come out and everyone's worried.
Are you going to put spins in it?
And they basically said no, we can't we can't have people
breaking these controllers. They're just they're just
they're too expensive at this point.
(37:17):
So like no more spinning. Yeah.
And I'm like, yeah, please, justI'll like I'll tap you had.
Enough drift problems without you putting it please this game
please. Don't make me spin this
controller. And actually, you know that
spinning controller, I'm still using it to this day, so I it's
held up very well. I just remember all my N64, the
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analog sticks and all that wouldjust like droop over to the side
eventually. Oh.
Yeah, it does. It's gonna work.
It still work. Yeah, it still works.
I still use it. So I.
Just remember cleaning out like chalk of the broken controller
from inside. Like I'd take AQ tip and like
mop out the dust and debris of the controller being torn apart
from. The the GameCube controllers
would do that, especially the especially the wireless 1, the
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wafer, because it had it had thelittle like Octagon indents in
it. And so those would really get
jacked up with you because it was not a circle and you were
spinning it in the circle. That's what I remember.
I love that. I love that controller.
Love the way bird little fatter little fatter than a normal game
U controller little thicker to hold.
(38:22):
I won't. Now we take a quest, a question
from the Channel 3 history books.
Then we're going to pick for youto discuss here with us tonight
and the question I'm going to ask of you.
If Kirby ate you, what power would he get?
A power that Kirby would get Sarcasm, yeah.
(38:45):
Oh, it's biting. That'd be a great way to defeat
enemies. Yeah.
Yeah, the wit, it cuts me it. Cuts.
Yeah. I don't know.
I mean, I could say something, you know, being an EMT is
something there, but I don't Defibrillation sarcasm.
The sarcasm goes with it as a compensation.
No, I think I think you're good.I think you sold it.
(39:07):
I'm, I'm Kirby, I I'm trying to think if Kirby had a
defibrillator. I don't know if some reason some
reason I feel like I remember. Kirby had some sort of thing at
one point Lightning, but we're I'm.
Sure. Volts involved there.
Yeah, yeah. Like which?
Which ones? Yeah, I have to look back.
I'm going to have to look back at it now because I feel like.
There's a it has a little shock.Well, he said we had.
(39:27):
He said we had the electricity. That's.
That's yeah, yeah. And last question we ask
everybody, what's been your favorite feature on Channel 3?
I think the, all the events, youknow, I've gotten into a lot of
these events, hoping to get in more.
You know, my work schedule varies, so I get into what I
can, you know, during the summer, you know, playing The
(39:48):
Marvels on stream, that was fun.The kid got in there with me.
Sometimes he still plays during lunch then, you know, but, yeah,
just, you know, getting in theseevents, you know, meeting new
people. Let's start.
We've made it to the end of another.
What are your three podcasts? Thank you, Rescue Joe, for being
with us. You can find a podcast at C3 dot
GG slash podcast dropping every Wednesday morning at 333
(40:09):
minutes. Turn on all the major platforms
including Spotify, YouTube Musicand Apple Podcast.
I'm Ray. Dan puts this all together.
Our theme song is by Caster Garden and for our executive
producer, Joel Willis. Have a good day everybody.
Channel 3. Is the future.
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