0136 travg

travg knows that it isn't the game you play, but who you play with that matters and we were finally able to get him on the show. travg wanted to chat Goldeneye, Red Dead Redemption II, and Mario Kart 8 as his three games with us today.

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Episode Transcript

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Channel 3. Is the future.
Welcome crew to what are your 3AChannel 3 podcast that sometimes

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knows you just got to chalk it up, make a second take and come
back a week later and try it again.
Though though I'm just going to let everybody know now as I
introduce my Co host Ray, that he before this podcast has
started, has just been pulling pins out of grenades, just
tossing them left and right. And he is coming in choosing
violence and is intending to make this a landmark episode for

(00:52):
hostility. Ray, say hi.
Hi. What's going on?
We don't. It doesn't have to be hostile.
That was all before. No, you, but you.
You. You just came out and you're
like, you shot someone's puppy in front of everybody and you're
like, oh, it doesn't have to be bad.
What's your? Problem, OK, it's just it's you
know, I was just laying out someideas that enjoy just it's a

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couple realities. Enjoy the post credits.
When we get to that, when we getto that, that.
Was they just, they, they came to me for 'cause I was, you
know, searching through game history and, and I realized some
things and we, I think we all concluded that I was right
tonight. Tonight's guest, let me tell
you, tonight's guest, it's Dan. It's not the game.

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It's not the game. It's actually the idea of the
game, but also it's about the people you're playing with.
And we are here. Trap GS here by himself because
Trav G has been on the podcast in the in the group formats, but
we're finally just talking to Trav.
Trav, how are you doing tonight?I'm very well guys.
Thanks so much for having me at long last.

(01:54):
I looking forward to. It I'm excited.
I like Ray Halray stool he he had to modify it slightly
because because that, but he's still even unscripted.
He still had the same introduction that he had a week
ago when we first tried this so.It's a happier one because last
week's was a little angrier. A little more, a little more
directly better towards Toronto baseball.
I was, yeah, it was a little. It was, you know, that was

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fresh. You know, if, if Trav happened
to be a Denver fan, it would have been the same thing
tonight, 'cause I mean, I got back-to-back weeks.
New York sports are just. I don't.
Know it's been 32 years and I'm still angry at Toronto baseball
so. I can talk about the Broncos
tonight if you want to. We don't have that could be my
could be my third favorite game.Let.
Me tell you we don't have to talk with the Broncos.

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Let let, let's, let's get into this because I, I got to get
this game started before Ray. You make Ray mute his microphone
for he's he's, he just leans up to the microphone.
Now we're going to tell him to mute the microphone for a minute
just so our our guests can discuss it before you.
Can it's a great first game. It starts violence as as Trav
brought up Goldeneye, the behemoth of the N64 and Trav.

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So what? What?
We're starting off with the the Goldeneye here, huh?
We are. So the three games here are
really games that have changed my life, honestly, like in
little ways or big ways. But Goldeneye came out when I
was in I think grade 11 and we started playing with my group of

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three other buddies and we played a lot.
I mean, it just, it brought us so much closer together.
There was a lot of Friday and Saturday nights that we'd just
get together, play some Goldeneye.
As we got older, like, you know,into early university when we're
able to buy a beer for ourselvesand other things, then it be

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actually became a drinking game for a little bit of time.
We'll we'll get back to that. But yeah, I know it's just so
important for our buddies. They are still some of my best
friends here 30 years later. We still get together for our
cigars and actually we still gettogether for Golden Night nights
to this day. So what happens still to this

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day? Like N64 controllers and all.
Some nights we do. My one buddy still has his N64
with Goldeneye and another game we would like to play together,
Micro Machine 64, and he still has the four controllers that
you have to plug in. And he's got a little red

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suitcase that we will carry between each other's houses,
whoever's hosting. So yeah, this.
Is like get handcuffed to somebody for safety too.
Is that? Yeah.
Actually, we, we have talked about that, yes, my buddy,
right, He does have the suitcaseright now.
But you know, I've held it for ayear or two or three at a time.
I'm the one that generally hoststhe gatherings.

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But like we, it's getting tougher.
But we can still hook that system up to the high def TV's
these days. We have to change the aspect
ratios and everything 'cause then otherwise it gets even
blockier than it already is. But totally worth it.
I, I like how Shaq's got the guythat walks around with like 50
or $100,000 in a briefcase and you guys just have somebody

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walking around with the N64 in the briefcase.
That's. N64 is worth more.
I would say one day to go, one day it'll be worth the same
thing. Maybe even more, but more now,
like with the Goldeneye re release on Xbox.
We will do it on the Xbox 'causeyou know, cordless controllers

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is a really nice thing. One of the other things about
the original 64 game where when you had a fourth player on the
OR the, the battle mode, that fourth player would really
actually slow down the frame rate.
And so one of our buddies, he wasn't as good as the other

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three of us. And so we would actually
frequently when we're having a golden eye night, tell that guy
to show up 30 to 60 minutes after we actually got together
just to make sure the three of us could have a really good go
at each other just without the slow down frame rate without We
also let that guy be odd job, right?

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So we didn't want odd job in there.
We didn't want the slow down frame rate.
We just went at each other for alittle bit and then he would
show up you. Actively allowed odd job to be
like if you told, if you ever told me, like, I get you,
Canadians are a kind people and nice people by nature.
That's probably one of the biggest insults I've ever heard
from anybody, period. Nonetheless, a Canadian and I

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would probably fight you in the street if you came out to me
like yeah, well let you know youcould be Odd job.
That would be odd job. That's the most there's that,
that Internet meme of like you like you drop common loot.
That's a devastating insult. I would let you play Odd Job,
maybe worse than that. That's definitely.
That's definitely worse. Oh my God.

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But a little over 30 years later, we still allow it and he
openly still takes it because hehe wants that.
He still plays. Odd job, 30 years.
Later, not even a modicum of offense taken to it.
Just like, yeah, OK, no, it's it's fair to level.
It's a fair handicap, OK. Absolutely.
You know, it's a handicap of thegame and we still just, we want

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to be with each other, right. And the bigger thing is can just
hang out relaxed, catch up on however long it had been since
we last catch caught up. You still tell him to wait 30
minutes before showing up. Yes, yes, yes we do at no.

(07:38):
OK, Full disclosure. So a lot of the my other friends
on the Channel 3 community will know about this one guy, this
one friend, he is my cigar supplier.
So especially the guys from the Chicago trips.
You know, my buddy, his birth dad turned out to be a cigar

(08:00):
maker in the Dominican. He found this out like 5 or 6 or
seven years ago. And so even though before that
we really enjoyed our cigar nights on top of Goldeneye,
nights like this is just what wedo every now and then.
But since we found out his dad was a cigar maker, cigar nights
have been on him and so it has been a little bit harder to tell

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him to come to to to show up late.
Yet we we still have had the gulf to do it.
So as far as modifiers go, do you guys just play straight up?
Do you go the the slappers only golden guns only do the one shot
1 kill? Like what?
What did the how do you guys mixit up for 30 / 30 years?
You have to mix it up some. We do, but the the gold standard

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is pistols license to kill paintball mode on radar off
'cause I mean we don't need the radar like we.
No radar, Yeah, absolutely no toradar.
No. Every now and then we'll go
slappers only, but honestly, when even with pistols only,

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every now and then somebody is going to get a slapper's kill
and without a doubt the whole room will know it and we'll
remember that for the rest of the night.
Is is that a great shame broughtupon odd job that happens?
Or odd job doesn't get slapped that much he he does a bit more
of the slapping because it'll just go to the knee.

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He's. Tougher target to hit.
So he's going, he's going to take those shots.
Beautiful. Yeah, but again, that that's
Frank is allowed to be odd job. He can slap us on the knees
every now and then. We'll we'll take it and then
we'll move on all. Right, not, not to disrupt your
your general idea of deferring times and three players and

(09:49):
frame rates and all that. Did the expansion pack for the
the memory expansion help that frame rate drop it all out of
curiosity? Not that we can really
appreciate. OK.
That's I was kind of curious scientifically if it had any,
any impact to to give it some passive juice to boost it with,
but no, no, I. Mean you're doubling.
You're doubling the memory with that with these.
Yeah, you would think it might be able to keep up a little

(10:10):
better, but not so much 4. From 4 to 8 megabytes.
Well, especially when you're you're blasting paint all over
the walls. That's not going to help either.
I don't know if I played that many because by the time we
played most stuff, we were on it.
We played a lot of perfect dark for our four player rounds.
So I never noticed anything likethat.
We only, I only played at home like two or three player
Goldeneye. So interesting.

(10:31):
It perfect dark. We we tried, but it just, it
never caught on in our group nearly as much as Goldeneye.
And that's where Goldeneye, well, yeah, 30, almost 30 years
later, is still the gold standard game for us.
It's a beautiful thing. There's nothing wrong with that.
Who's who do you play as? As a general real Boris.

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All right, does somebody have toplay as JAWS to offset odd job?
No, Oh no, no, nobody gets Jaws.Ryan, the guy who owns the
Nintendo is typically the not the Arctic Commando.
What's it called? One of those commando guys.
Just one of the the generic Russian guard.

(11:14):
Types. Yeah, yeah.
No, we've we've got our go TOS. Is there an advantage to?
Is there an advantage to that? Does he like blend into the
background somewhere or something?
I I. I think, no, I think he just
likes the looks of it. And then like when I play Boris,
I, I just love quoting him during the movie, right?

(11:34):
Like, you can't win, you know? It's just the stupid things that
hold on to a friendship for nearly 30 years.
Are you switching to Alan Cummings?
A Scottish accent while you're right at sea?
You can do a diversity of accents with playing.
Yourself. Oh yeah, And it wasn't like, to
this day I think it's easily oneof the top five Bond films.

(11:57):
Like Goldeneye was incredible asa film.
I'm not going to argue that thatit's, it's up there.
It's, it's probably at 5 for me at this point, but that's sorry.
What are your top five then? I have to ask since you brought
it up. Oh, there you go.
OK. So, well, you you, you started
this is. Before we get to the violence,
so. Has the best.
Has the best bond too. Like you've you mean Brosnan is

(12:19):
the best bond? He's my favorite.
Oh, go wash your mouth out so. I love him.
I love. Him.
I think it's raining. I think it's wonderful.
So I'm OK so. I just I, you know, I thought
this was the the, the appetizer before we get.
To the childhood, but that's a childhood thing 'cause there's
just no did. You watch any of the other
movies he was in? Oh yeah, they were all tracked

(12:41):
aside from cold night. These wait.
You made me have to make a Doctor Christmas Jones joke
before so. Never the the first one I saw
was I think the first James BondI ever saw was The World is not
Enough. So to me I was like, this is
the. Most amazing thing.
I still listen that garbage song, it's wonderful.
Sounds great. So, so, Dan, to answer your
question, and this is a hot takeand it's going to upset a lot of

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people, I love Timothy Dalton. The The Living Daylights and
License to Kill I think are actually two of the best in this
series. They're under appreciation, I'll
say that. Yes, more and more on Her
Majesty Secret Service I'm enjoying like Lazenby was not a
good bond but that film is too far pulling.

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The Aussie out here. Oh no, no, he he was not a great
Bond. But that film was a terrific
Bond film. Great story, great everything
other than Lazenby. But then I can't take.
I know, right? Yeah, hot takes, but obviously
Goldfinger is right at the top. All of Connery's stuff.

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Dan, you're all in on the. New one I'm going.
To guess you. Know what I got to say?
Casino Royale is probably my number one at this point.
And Casino Royale more right every all of these bonds, all of
the actors first films knocked it out of the park, right
Goldeneye Casino Royale the living daylights on Her Majesty

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Secret Service doctor. You're you're Dan you're OK with
are you OK with the Jane with the oh gosh I'm forgetting his
name with the Jason Bournification of James Bond
movies. It's going away.
It was a phase. That was that's what I, but it's
not. You you remember.
You remember more of it being that way than it actually was.

(14:30):
They they, they had a couple, they had like 2.
They had like 2 scenes of it. That's all it was in that movie.
It was like 2 scenes. It's.
Already too much? There was it, well, it was just,
it was that parkour thing too. It was like, oh, look, it's
parkour season because you go back in like the you can tie the
the parkour episode of The Office and and Casino Royale
together for that exact reason. But no Goldfinger, Goldeneye,

(14:52):
Casino Royale. Yeah, those those.
Are Yeah. Big shout outs to Timothy
Dalton. Everybody listening, go watch
those two. They need more love.
They they do. That's all unfair.
Now, Ray, I Ray, I'm, I'm going to let Ray start because this is

(15:13):
going to go because obviously, listen, here's the thing that
Trav and his friends are playingthis game to this day. 30 plus
years. Yeah, 30 years later.
That's that's, that's just because it's about the people
you play with this, that this isclassic Trav right now the game,
because the game is not actuallyplayable like most games.
Of the of the 64, but they're playing like 64 controllers.

(15:36):
I don't know. They're they're, they're
fighting, they're fighting against reality just to be
together. And that's OK.
You can have a good time and play old stuff that that isn't
as good anymore. That's fine.
But it's unplayable. The muscle memory takes over
when you hold the controller andthe straight.
The strafing to the side works. So that's been the biggest kick

(15:57):
in, the sorry kick in something playing on Xbox because you
can't just have your N64 controlset up right.
So we have played around to try to find kind of the right
controls for Xbox to make up theN64 controller, but it just,
it's been tough. And so every time we get
together for the Xbox night, it takes quite a few rounds for all

(16:20):
of us to get kind of readjusted and sorted out.
So I just just want everybody toknow Ray thinks the 30 year old
game is unplayable because it was designed 30 years ago.
That's. There's a lot, there's a lot of
game. It's that time, that time.
It's a rough time for replayability.
The the N64 and the PlayStation time.
It's a rough time 'cause we werejumping.

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Ahead for new. Format, it's understandable like
it was needed. You had the suffering was needed
to get to the next step, but theprevious step like listen, the
games that played on the on the Genesis and Super Nintendo like
are still playable today. And it's like and it like works
so nicely. And then you had a little

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struggle time. You know, the late 90s.
It was crazy. Y2K.
It wasn't at the time, though. That's what I wanted.
I want to make sure it's abundantly clear at the time
there was no struggle. I agree that I I, I have said
repeatedly, and you like to comeat me for saying Nintendo 64 is
probably the system that is agedthe worst.
Yes, primarily because of the controller that was great at the

(17:26):
time and worked perfectly fine for me.
Exists only in that bubble. But you, you can't go back in
time and say like, no, this was terrible at the time you were.
No, it's not. It was not terrible at the time.
It was amazing at the time. I love the N64.
It's just terrible now, the factwait, wait and still we have
the. Guy who plays it still here 30

(17:47):
years later so. Keep the fact, have Super Smash
Brothers, the fact that Super Smash Brothers is 1999 and two
years later you're the game Cubeis out and you have Melee.
Like it's such a small thing of time and such a jump.
There was a little bit of struggle time, which is amazing,
and then we got like what it really should be.
With oh, I'm sorry, Smash Brothers, every console

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generation has nearly broken theconsole that it plays on because
Sakurai's trying to do so much. This is also true.
Ray, I'll have you out some night.
You can join us for our Goldeneye night.
We will pour you. You will decide.
I'm going to be odd. I'll have to.
Yeah, I was going to say you canbe odd job and not destroy me,

(18:29):
Will Will. Pour a entire game.
Just like old old days will poura couple high balls.
You're gonna have fun even though you say quote UN quote
unplayable and it's gonna be Mr.Reyes, what brings you to the
Canadian border? I'm here to get killed by a
bunch of Canadians. Oh, Speaking of.
OK, so another next step about Goldeneye you're getting?

(18:52):
Killed by Canadians. So few, you know, after it came
out, we're now in university where we can actually buy beer
and whiskey and whatnot. So I I mentioned there's
different ages in that. Area too.
So for the for the non American list, there's only 19 at that
point. It it, it was 19.
Yeah, but Mike and I one night just talked about developing a

(19:16):
drinking game called Ryan Kill. So Ryan is the third guy.
Mike and I, we would just camp out and kill Ryan like we we
just stand there beside each other, just not even shooting at
each other. But as soon as we killed Ryan,
then you sit there and you have a drink, and would you believe
Ryan didn't enjoy that very muchyou.

(19:37):
Don't say the collusion was. He wasn't a fan then, huh?
But it was still a lot of fun and Mike and I got quite into
the bottle the first night we played that until he turned off
the system. I.
Just got a question, what level of rage quit was involved with
her controllers unplugged? But no, you just turned the
system off. And well, there is a previous to

(20:02):
that, right, like when we started to play Goldeneye,
right, YouTube wasn't a thing, the Internet, it was there, but
the one day, and I was the firstone of us to figure out that you
actually came to life in a certain order.
You respond in X spot and. Ryan and I, we were just hanging

(20:22):
out one, one afternoon and I figured it out on the facility
and I would just go from spot tospot killing him.
And God bless the guy. He was so upset.
He just tried to, you know, quitthe level, right?
You hit the start button, you goto cancel.
And he couldn't even do that before he was dead.
And he actually got up, walked across the room and hit the

(20:46):
power button on the 64. A thing my kids don't have an
appreciation for either like theway that you can rage quit by
like yanking your siblings controller out or just like
getting up and turning off the system.
Like it it doesn't have the sameimpact the the way you do it
today. Yeah, the the loss of analog

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that that really impacted the rage quit.
Yeah, right. In gaming, in my life of gaming,
one of the proudest, proudest afternoons, right?
Like to make Ryan get up, walk across and hit the power button.
I got you, buddy. I got you good.

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Any other parting thoughts on Goldeneye for the good old days?
You know, I, I will, yeah, Little bit more of a somber note
if that's all right with you guys.
Again, one of these situations would like it really brought
this group of us a lot really close together.
In grade 12, one of our buddies committed suicide.

(21:48):
So one of those awful moments ofgrowing up and meeting the real
world head on. So all of us obviously at the
funeral, as were a couple of ourdads, like my dad knew this guy
since we were four or five yearsold.
But that night, right, like the four of us got together, we

(22:10):
played Goldeneye just, you know,talking about life, both the
important things about friendship, about things that
matter. Our dads pitched in money to buy
pizza for us, which was just awesome, right?
Just knowing that we were in a tough spot, rough, rough spot in
our lives as well and great. So just being able to play the

(22:33):
game, the four of us telling stories, pissing each other off,
being there for each other, right?
Like it just, it had everything for us.
That's why this stuff's important.
Exactly, and like I said, the games were going through things
that changed or affected my life.

(22:55):
Beautiful. We're going to.
We're going to jump on that noteto a game hopefully Ray's not
going to dunk on for saying it'saged poorly.
We're going to. We're going to this.
Time this game is actually I don't.
I mean this is Rockstar doesn't miss when you look through that
their catalog. Oh man, easy.

(23:15):
Thunder, there's some stuff you might not realize is Rockstar
that I think you. I think there are few and far in
between. I think Rockstar kind of nails
when they watch. Guys realize they did more than
bully. They did more than bully.
Grand Theft Auto and of course, Red Dead Redemption 2
specifically. We're here to talk Red Dead
Redemption 2, but I I got. GTAGTA on horses.

(23:39):
GTA on horses that that somebodywith with Rock started to say
this. They're actually preferred
franchise, so the Wild West GTA.So was this your first
participation in the series? Do I have that in my research
correct? Yes, yes, it was so a little bit
of back story then. So like we talked about

(24:00):
Goldeneye, but then there was about a like honestly a 20 year
dark period of gaming for me. Like I I didn't own a GameCube.
My wife and I we owned a Wii butwe only played like Super Mario
Brothers Wii on it the in. Canada, they actually issued
everybody a Wii. It wasn't like down here where
they were hard to come by. Like they just said no,
everybody gets a Wii. That's it.

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I, I, I wasn't aware of that, that maybe it will be true.
But yeah, I, I, we had a Wii, but we didn't.
He doesn't know where they bought, he doesn't know where
they got it from. It was just there one.
Day, but we had one. No, I know she she was out
shopping one day and got out at Christmas.
I do know that much, but how much?
Or yeah, anyways, so then after all this.

(24:46):
Time, the Dark Ages. Your dark ages were extended,
yes. They, they were.
And so once her colleague is getting rid of his Xbox One
'cause he's updating to the XboxOne X, like, oh God, Xbox.
They had so many stupid names for it, right?

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So we picked it up and I startedgaming again.
Then the pandemic it, I was ableto, like, we have a library that
offers video games and so I was able to pick up Fallen Jedi,
which was incredible. Had to make sure I played that
before I had to return it beforethe library's reopened.
But in the meantime, RDR 2 was available for sale for it was

(25:32):
like 36 bucks Canadian. It's like $5 American.
I'm just. Kidding. 10 sure, 5 sure.
And like, I just kept hearing somuch about it and so like, sure,
let's buy a game. And I was floored with what a
video game could be. Again, it had been the better

(25:53):
part of 20 years, but just like Fallen.
Orders like a disguise, like there's open world aspects to it
but like the levels themselves are just like corridor levels or
puzzles too. So like, you don't have the same
expansive monstrosity the Red Dead Redemption 2 is?
Exactly. Yeah.
No, Yeah. Fallen Jetta.

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You just still have to follow your path.
Red Dead. You can do what you want, when
you want, how you want. It's just fishing and hunting
simulator if you want it to be. You never have to do anything
else. And I came.
Besides going fishing and hunting if you want, yeah.
So Dan, you hit that on the headwhere?
So in the first play through, I just like, yeah, I had no idea
video game could have that sort of story with that sort of a

(26:37):
beautiful world. I I I was floored, loved it so
much. Yeah, we're beyond spoilers at
this point. Without a doubt.
Statue of limitations. Statue of Limitations is up.
This thing came out in 2018. You're good.
It's more than five years. Exactly.
I didn't know the protagonist could die.

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And when that happened, honestly, I had tears in my
eyes. I've replayed this to 100%
completion about five times or so.
Every time I go to that final mission, I make sure I have some
time set aside. I make sure that I'm going to be
able to focus. Because still to this day, when
I play that mission, I will havetears in them.

(27:19):
It's one of those like. The the memes out there, like
you just need that time by yourself after after a game, the
after that kind of game is done to just like center yourself
again, yeah. Yeah, right.
Again, I had no idea a video game could be like that.
And then so after I played it through the first time, I

(27:41):
immediately went back and that'swhen I started to look at the
Internet, like IGN, the online maps and everything.
Like that's when I really unpacked it all.
So yeah, the first time I playedI intentionally avoided the
Internet, but I just wanted to enjoy it for what it was.
So the first time you played it,were you just like, were you
just following the missions and just like following the story?

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Straightforward. Yes, like I I don't think I did
any, if at all of the side missions or challenges actually
on the 1st playthrough rightly. Committed that that's hard.
Well committed, but also I hadn't played a real video game
in the better part of 20 years. I, I, you know that all of this

(28:26):
other stuff came out in the meantime that I didn't totally
appreciate. You didn't.
You didn't know what kind of blow it was waiting for you.
Yeah, no, I, I not at all. And so then I, yeah, I went
back, I played through again, did everything like I took my
time. And when you talked about a
fishing and hunting simulator, like as soon as I could unlock

(28:48):
the God Pearson's tools, right. So you could make the satchels.
So immediately I did that. And then I just, I went hunting,
just chilling out, just relaxing.
And it what a beautiful world, right?
Every now and then you do a sidequest, yes.
So what are what are some of theside quests that stick out for

(29:09):
you? Well, certainly the Mary Lynton
1 you know, the girl that he wasclose to marrying and then she
came back in his life. Yeah, if only he could just have
had you're. You're just saying.
You're telling. Him to walk away, you're trying
to get him to walk away through the course of the.
There's got to be another endingand.

(29:31):
No, no, walk away, walk away. Chapter 2 Mary, let's just go.
Let's take off, let's go. No, so that one, honestly, the
entire chapter 6, when you really see Arthur become a human
being, you know, other than that, that honestly, they're all
so good. Every part of that game is five

(29:53):
stars. How about the zombie part of?
The. Game do you take her with that
at? All so like the like red dead
one had the zombie part, which Ihaven't played at all I'm aware
of it, but I haven't and Red Dead 2 like they have a few of

(30:17):
the missions I think in chapter 4 or even just side stories that
have the I I'm even forgetting what the well yeah yeah, I.
Thought there was like a separate DLC, like or like it
was just like a separate thing all together, yeah.
But no, I haven't explored that a lot.
Honestly. I've played the Red Dead online
for about 25 minutes. Just just like the fact that I

(30:40):
had to restart from the beginning.
Just oh man, my Arthur was powerful.
He had everything going for and then to start out, I I said
screw that. Just take me back to the
beautiful story where I can justdo what I want when I want.
The the other problem is the people on the Internet part of
the red line. Yeah, you're better off.

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That was where I thought you were going.
You said 25 minutes. No, not Yeah, just you're
better. You're better off.
Just no, don't, don't do it. So.
So you're a big fan of the hunting.
Any other of the side activitiesthat that that caught your
attention and why? The gambling ones were stupid as
all could be, especially the blackjack trying to hit for

(31:25):
three times and win. Some of them are just so
frustrating. The bandit ones are stupid fun,
like who wouldn't want to just keep robbing people all day or
wagons or yeah that's a lot of fun.
The the master hunter ones, likemost of them are stupid fun,

(31:47):
like blowing up four enemies with a stick of dynamic.
Especially when you can go at itagainst the Ku Klux spot, that
is very rewarding. It's a beautiful thing when you
have that going there. So you, you said five times,
you've been through this one now.
I I believe yeah. Will there Will there be number?

(32:10):
6 coming for you. It's been at least three times
I've told my wife I'm done, I never again.
And I do have a game going on right now.
I'm currently on chapter 3 stilljust totally slow rolling it,
doing a lot of the hunting, doing the challenges.

(32:32):
But I'm also now just really trying to focus on other things.
Like Red Dead is a totally greatrelaxing late at night.
But recently I picked up like the Mario Galaxy 1 and 2, the
the remastered for the Switch and I'm absolutely loving going
down that path because right, those were released in that dark

(32:54):
period. So I've never played.
Your dark ages were two decades.Yeah, you're playing.
You catch up on. And apparently they look great.
Oh, they look great, but they also play great.
So in the, when we had a week, Idid have Mario Galaxy 2.
So I played it a little bit, butI, I don't think I ever got past
world one even. Like I just, I didn't like the,

(33:15):
the, the feel of it, the, the controls.
I just never thought. Whereas now that I'm playing
Galaxy one on the switch with the motion controller, it, it is
so good. 10 out of 10. I'm loving it.
So that's where, you know, trying to do some new games, not
so much Red Dead time and again.All right, so we go on game #3

(33:36):
now. Now I just, I just want to point
out one of us, one of us has a, a Mario Kart world background on
right now and one of us doesn't.Which is this is to say I, I did
not come here to disrespect a game, a game on your list here.
Dan obviously had different ideas.
Dan usually has like the Isabella's House background.

(33:59):
He said tonight he decided to change.
It felt like it was just tonightthat he changed the year.
There we go, Dad. It changes I I change it all the
time. I just happen to have that.
God, sorry I haven't. Had that up.
Wait, I was actually good. Lord might as well, he just
switched it to NES Mario Kart. That's crazy.
No, that was Super Nintendo in Mario Kart 8 there.

(34:21):
How about this? Now will you leave me alone?
Go back, go go back. One that that was the one
Rainbow Rd. SNES.
It's a great track actually. That's one.
I think it's. The Mario Kart 8 version
specifically, to be to be clear,was the Mario Kart 8 version.
You know, I don't like a lot of old tracks.
I I actually really love how they did the how to do this this

(34:42):
NES track in Mario Kart 8 I'll. I'll say, see, you know what?
He just did it. He did it to, he did it to the
old. Tracks, but I like that one.
Too Ray has said he's had sleep for like 3 nights straight now.
I'm feeling he's out. Of he's he's like a petulant
child out of control, and he's I.
Love it. We need we hit like get get a
spray bottle like a a dog insidecontrol, spritz them in the face

(35:04):
a few times. Tell you, don't the old school
tracks really kill me in Mario Kart 8, The SNES Rainbow Rd.
That's actually a great track. Somebody get me a good, I need a
good time track people, I'm going to put.
People, more people recently have been answering and saying
they call us SNES. We're out there.
There's dozens of us, dozens of us out there.

(35:27):
Dozens in the world of millions.They're coming, they're coming
out, they're coming out and saying the truth, especially
with that other quest right and you have said it.
You know we used the NES and theSess.
I don't make the rules. It's just what it is, alright.
Mario Kart 8, my first question,I don't think it's a great
question anymore because you just said you had this 20 year
period of like of not playing games so.

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Did you play? Any older Mario Kart before
Mario Kart 8? Well for sure I I played on the
SNES. OK.
Right, because that was before the 16th.
Of course I played. That and, and did you play it a
bunch? Was it like, yeah, I played this
game, I enjoyed this game. But like I, I don't even, I
don't even think I owned it whenI, when I had a Super Nintendo.

(36:12):
I, I don't even, I'm not sure I knew the game existed.
And that happened to me with a lot of games that I realized
later on had Super Nintendo versions.
So yeah, I, I played it on the SNESI, did not play it on the 64
at all. Fast forward all those years, I
did not play it on the even then.

(36:32):
So that's when I ran into the, the dad gaming and they had a
Mario Kart beat. Like so many people, I thought,
I've played Mario Kart. Let me show these guys what's
up. I can't wait to join in.
But I, I didn't actually have a Switch or Mario Kart.
So kind of an issue. But then my wife little bit, she

(36:55):
said I'm buying a switch. I've heard so much great things.
I just want to have a little system to myself.
And then I said, great, right, Spend money on yourself, do
that. But then shortly after I said,
hey, I need to spend money on Kart 'cause there's this league
that I want to join and I want to show them what's up.
And so we did that. We bought the game you showed

(37:16):
them and. You showed them.
Day one. No, no, man.
Oh man, was I humbled. Like so many people joining the
league, Right? Like, yeah, I've played Mario
Kart. Let me show these guys.
Nope. What's the first thing you
played in? Did you play on Monday night or
did you? Was it a Sunday?

(37:37):
I it it might have been a Monday.
Probably it might have been a just a oh, right.
That said, though, when I was kind of reading into the, you
know, joining things, they talked about how Monday is
really where everybody's at, especially the seasoned
veterans. Yeah.
So that's probably where I joined in.

(37:59):
I'll show these guys. And just so humbled.
I do really clearly remember thefirst race I won out right was
because I took a bullet from sixto first.
Love it. And I'm openly say like I have a
short bullet. They always seem to run out.
But that one that that bullet went a long time.

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But the whole group so welcoming, so helpful.
When I first joined, there's this guy named Martin who sent
me an e-mail or a message, right, to say like do the time
trials. There's these videos called
basic training, Like, check themout.
At that point, I had no idea that it was actually basic

(38:42):
reaching out to me to say do this, like this is how you get
better. And who's this George Martin?
Yeah, no idea. No.
But dude, it was so good and right.
The whole group so welcoming to the point where on the 1st

(39:04):
Chicago trip like I was invited to, but it's just at that point
in life where I was, I had just gone on a big trip to Ireland
with the family. My wife and I did another trip
out east to Nova Scotia for a weekend to be with a bunch of
good friends and I just, I couldn't justify it.
But even then, like when we werein Nova Scotia, my wife and I,

(39:26):
we, we had lunch with Frog. He drove over an hour in for
lunch just to be with us. And he made a hard sell.
And even then my wife was sayinglike, go ahead, like do that.
And I'm like, yeah, can't justify it.
No. But then so much regret.
I definitely went the next year and had again one of the

(39:47):
greatest times of my life, like being with all of these other
guys and girls that you just meet through the Internet on on
a stupid kids game. But we have so much fun and it's
just a chance where you can kindof dissociate from reality.
Talk to people about life, the good and the bad, and chill.

(40:09):
What is what was the best memoryof the trip, or the best
activity, or the best what? What was the best moment that
stands out to you? Well so I've gone on 2 trips now
that's. Right.
It's happened that many times already.
That's amazing. Well, the third, yeah, the third

(40:29):
happened. They're already planning the
4th. OK, let let me answer that a few
different ways. Different ways.
The first year I kind of set up the cigar hour.
So my buddy Frank, whose dad is Cigar maker, I, I went down with

(40:50):
a good amount and just those that wanted a cigar, we sat
there and we just right, we justtalked about nothing in
particular. That was actually the time where
it, it right, just stupid conversation.
And of all of us, the, the dads,the dad gaming and we had the
conversation like who is who's the dad of the dads, right?

(41:13):
And the conversation just kind of goes on and on.
And a big shadow, Ryan Mack is the dad of dads.
Like the the the definition is like, when somebody talks, who
do you shut up and listen to? And I didn't know.
If it was a question like who got the lawnmower out for 'cause
I remember the the lawnmower came out the first year, so I
didn't know if that was like thechallenge or?

(41:35):
No, no, what? But that was Malfurious both
years, right? So just having that conversation
with all the guys about like, yeah, who do you shut up and
listen to? Also that first year, like they
ran the golf tournament, which Ihad never played Mario Super
Golf. That was awesome.
And I have partaken here and there since, but I wouldn't have

(41:58):
done that without that trip. There was the, you know, during
that, that first one, so many tournaments, like we had a cart
gang sort of thing. There was an elimination
tournament, which so there was Ithink 26 of us.
And so 2 rounds, if you, if you get last twice, you're out.

(42:22):
And then the top six will go into the final like from each
group. And I had no business even
getting out of the first round because I believe if I got it
right, like I was up against Mickey and Gannon got it like
just so many of these absolutelyawesome and amazing racers.

(42:44):
So I made it to the final round,and even then I finished fifth
overall. And so like, it was a surreal
experience of playing. I, I was in the theater on the
final round, the theater, the overhead projector, the surround
sound, and I had most of the 20 people cheering me on because I

(43:07):
had no business being there. But to be able to play Mario
Kart with guys like Jay Pegg andGannon and Mickey wins and Mac
and whoever else whispering in my ear on how to play was just
like, it was surreal 'cause I don't know if you guys have
heard, Jpeg's pretty good at that game.

(43:28):
He's got quite a few Group A championships.
Won a couple, a couple in a row,and.
Only he's, he's happy. He's he's.
Not. That he's not Pete either.
Right. But to have him sitting beside
me, say, like trap, here's what you need to do.
Good tip. All right, Yeah.
Surreal. 11 out of 10. So glad I went back this past

(43:52):
year. But this past year was it was
just so different as well. Like near like, not even half
the amount of video games, but just hanging out with people and
talking and getting to know all these people you talk with so
often on the Internet. But face to face it it, it was
incredible. And on and on top of that, you

(44:13):
participated in a number of gifts, which I only know because
of the fact that I had to message Jedi repeatedly saying,
who is that guy? Because even now you avoid your
camera with us. We don't have eye contact with
you. Who is that guy there?
And of course, now you've got you've got the Kikus
foreclosures, you've got the, the series of people you game

(44:35):
with gifts as well. But like this this past trip,
like Jedi just dumped. And I still have ones in my
folder that I'm like, I'm working my way through the the
like 100 he sent me. But it was just funny.
The first couple. I'm like, who's that guy?
I, I know who most of these people.
I don't know who that is. Oh my God.
Oh, OK, there we go. Now I know.

(44:57):
Well, I'm a fairly talkative fellow, but I'm also painfully
shy in front of a camera, and that's where I drugged my feet
for so long on these gifts. But I kept being told like they
got to be made. And true enough, they had to be
made. And they had.
To be you like it can't be somebody else.
Delivering your can't be someoneelse doing it.

(45:18):
Yeah, Mm. Hmm.
Yeah. But this past year, actually,
like, I was legitimately sick for half of it.
And so I wasn't in as nearly as many as I could have or should
have been. Those gifts are just, Jedi just
has such a plan of, of events for the gifts, which is awesome.

(45:38):
The other thing, yeah, the couple of years I've gone, I was
orchestrating the rounds of golf, you know, just being able
to get away from the video games, get away from that house
and mansion. You know, the first year there
was six of us. Last year there was 8.
You don't need to be good, you don't need to be awesome.

(45:59):
You just have fun. And that's what it was all
about, being able to go have fun, play some real golf, get
out, do something different and get to know each other on a
totally different level. Is this game, Do you think
you've played this game as long if you didn't have the group of
people playing? If it was just something you did
at home and played online or whatnot, do you think it would

(46:20):
have captured your attention forso long?
I'm not sure if I even would have played it beyond 40 hours.
I mean it's fun, it's great, butit it's definitely who you play
with and I play with such amazing people that I look
forward to talking to them, shelling red, shelling them and

(46:41):
getting red shelled by them on the regular basis.
Well, I'll ask, I'll ask. We'll, let's, we'll run through
the standard questions here before we go on 1st, 1st who's
the character and what's the cart that we want to use?
It varies. I can recall one particular Cart
Gang season where we were Cat Peach and all of us ran the Cat

(47:05):
the Cat Cruiser that, you know, just stupid fun.
Right now I'm generally running Yoshi red Yoshi in particular
cause red is the best color on ateddy buggy with the rollers.
The red rollers 'cause it's it'sa good look.
What's the best course? What's the worst course?

(47:30):
I'm I'm gonna get a lot of shadethrown at me.
I tend to go to Tokyo Blur. There was one particular Wolves
Den night where it got picked a couple of times and and I won by
quite a distance on both times. So it just, it feels good.
It's home field advantage for you basically.
Yeah. Yes, but I mean that Turnpike at

(47:52):
the end is just such a random crapshoot, but I still tend to
do pretty well and so like I'm cart gang.
So you know, I'll often say, well, let's go there.
But then at the same time it's like like it's not a lot.
It's a it's such a crapshoot, but still, I love it more and

(48:13):
more. I think that whole cup is like
the strongest cup of the entire game.
Like it's got Ninja, it's got sky garden.
It has drawn a blank anyways, sois it Chocolate Mountain?
Might be anyways you're. Gonna know better than me.

(48:33):
Super solid cup. As for the worst course, God,
it's got to be Cheeseland, right?
Thank you. Good.
That's that That is, that is actually the correct answer.
Thank you. That's trash.
What now? I have to ask you, Trav.
I know. I know.
Ray's beef with it. What?

(48:54):
What's your why? Why do you think it's the case?
And Ray, shut up, don't I? Don't say it, Ray.
Just wait, Trav. Why?
No Ray's stomach. Trav, why do you say sure?
Because if you go super fast youget ate at best.
Oh sorry that sounds like a skill issue I don't understand

(49:14):
like. What do you mean?
I don't even care about that part, it's just ugly.
It it is also ugly, but like it's such a beggar course.
And I yeah, so I'm far from the best of the game, but I I don't
beg like when I'm way at the back and coming up to the front,
it's because there was a skill issue involved at the beginning

(49:35):
and that's why I'm at the back. So yeah, Nikki wins, right?
One of the he's an E sports coach at his high school.
They do a bunch of Mario Kart. And so I was kind of on the
whole crew trying to help these kids get ready for races at one
point. And you could tell these kids
were bagging. And so the one night I thought,

(49:55):
OK, all right, I'm gonna hang back.
I'm gonna bag with them. I'm just gonna shell them from
behind. But my God, these kids were so
good at bagging. Like, I just had no, no chance,
no ability to catch up. And so like, bagging is real
skill and I don't have it. And that's where cheese land.
Like, yeah, no, no chance. I don't.

(50:17):
I don't have the the bagging skills.
So I'll go back. I'll be up front.
I love cheese. I eat cheese.
Course, I have a moral objectionto sandbagging, to be clear.
I'm not good enough to sandbag. Thank you, Ray.
If I'm in the back, it's becausebecause everyone else is just a
lot faster. It's because I earned it.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

(50:38):
Skill issue. And.
And Dan, you're wrong. Cheese.
No. Cheese Lent is not.
It's a good course. No, it's not a good course.
It's just, it's just awful. Yeah.
And on that note, we're going tomove on.
We got honorable mentions here. I, I noticed, I didn't notice
this the first time we were running through.
There's there, we got 4 honorable mentions we got.

(51:01):
We got, yeah, this guy's an inflation thing or something
here. Let's let's run through #1
number one, What Remains of Edith Finch is the first
honorable mention. And I, I have to say this is one
of Dan's. This game was put out by Dan's
favorite company, Indie Small small Indie developers

(51:24):
Annapurna. Their first, as a matter of
fact. Published Published this game
right here. Dan Dan loves Annapurna, the
tiny indie company. No, I, I again, to be clear, as
a legal disclaimer, I'm I'm herefor their games.
Let's go. I just don't ever want them
referred to as the the multibillion dollar.
Indie developers. Yeah, just don't call them

(51:44):
independent, no. Quick, tell us a question.
For Dan Dan, what other games have they made?
They have made a lot of games tothe point that I would have to
pull up like, like literally that is their first.
Yeah. So that's literally their first.
I think they did the whole. They've got a lot of good games.

(52:06):
Yeah, it's like Kentucky Root 0 Donut County, Outer Wilds.
What remains to me to finish? Telling you this.
Baroga, hang on, let me bring down the list here Yeah, what
remains to me to finish was their first for sure.
The Outer Wilds was one of theirs journey, at least for the
release for the the phone. Kentucky Root Zero.

(52:27):
I am dead. The pathless was one of theirs
as well. Neon white stray those were big
ones in 2022 cocoon. It was a big one in there.
Lorelei and the lazy laser eyes,not lazy eyes.
Jesus, Lorelei and the laser eyes wander stop and I'm I'm

(52:49):
skipping lots of stuff like thisyear earlier I've had two. 4
They're just funding it. They're, they just, they fund,
they fund companies that put these games out and they pick
and they pick good ones. Like the Lego Voyagers game?
Yeah, they they pick winners. They pick winners that that are
like people are putting out goodgames.
Yeah, they again to be to be clear and I I appreciate what

(53:10):
they are doing for for gaming. I just don't want people to act
like hey let me help out the little guy here when what are
the is? Every time one of their games
get nominated for best indie game of the year, that's that's
that's that's what upsets. That's what upsets Dan.
Yeah, the the yeah, the Ellison family does not deserve to be

(53:31):
called independent in in this entire thing.
Like the guy, the guy found an Oracle and has taken that the
billions of billions of dollars and like done a great deal for
entertainment all that great. Like he didn't do it for.
I'm sorry, that's not this scrappy upstart that like is out
here grinding and putting a gametogether themselves.

(53:52):
That's all I'm saying. Like again, forgive me for for
being so blunt. Like, no, that you don't get to
again, great games love what they're doing.
You just you don't get to say that you're the independent.
That's all I'm saying. Now tell us how how did you end
up playing What Remains of EdithFinch?

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So the why and how was it was onGame Pass.
I don't even remember exactly how I had heard or been told
like to do it, but there was suddenly like it was leaving
Game Pass in two days and I thought whole I've got to get on
this because right, For whateverreason, I had heard it.

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I had heard about it, I wanted to play it and so I did.
And it was like an hour, hour and a half, two hours long.
Like it was not a long investment of time, but it was
just such a beautiful little game and of heart breaking story

(54:53):
actually. Like every step of the way it
just kind of kept getting worse,although you were so enthralled
and it was so beautiful, like I said.
And we're still kind of coming out of that 20 year dark period
of gaming. And again, I didn't realize that

(55:14):
game could be quite like that. Like it's more of a story, like
you're not really, you're not combating, you're not doing
your, you're hitting up on all the enemies, but you're
experiencing a story at your ownpace.
And it was just so beautiful andtragic at the same time.

(55:37):
Has playing that game LED you toplay other games?
They're like that more these story based smaller kind of
titles. Little by little I'm trying to
God what's it called? Poppy Playtime, which was just,

(55:57):
again, such a short little but beautiful horror tastic game.
Loved it. Like I'm really trying to find
these little indie games at times that are short and sweet
that you can just enjoy in shortlittle segments 'cause I, as I
said, put so much time into Red Dead 2 and all these other ones.

(56:18):
More and more I'm trying to findother things that are short and
sweet and yeah, What Remains of Edith Finch hit all of the
fields I'm. Going to say that Poppy play
time. There's that is one of the
classics of like my middle schoolers right now, that whole
that that series, that characteror that is.
That that Fortnite character. I'm just kidding this.

(56:41):
Not yet. I don't think so.
It is in like 2 weeks. It's it's in there.
Oh, is it on its way? Yeah.
That's 'cause. My middle, that's 'cause.
It's part of Fortnite mares, yeah.
Poppy playtime one and two were incredible. 3 kind of started to
lose a bit of its luster. I don't even know if I'm going
to play 4, but one and two were incredible as well.

(57:04):
Ten of the fin. So all those people listening.
Yeah. What remains of E to Finch,
Poppy playtime. One and two go what?
Remains of E to Finch is back onXbox Game pass by the way.
It left but it is. It should be back if I'm not
mistaken. It should.
It is on now. I didn't know that but I have
purchased it on both the switch and Xbox since then 'cause I got

(57:26):
it for like 5 or whatever but and it's just so worth going
back and reviewing all the stories.
I'm no, you know what? Forget what I said.
That's not true. It's not on Game Pass.
I just, I just looked it up again.
It's it's been off and on of thePlayStation Plus periodically.
Yeah, it bounces back and forth.It is currently not on PC Game

(57:48):
Pass. I could say that I thought it
would it. It moves around.
But yeah, I have it on Switch and Xbox.
It is so beautiful. You know, now that we're talking
about it, I might just even run through it tonight later on.
It is 75% off on Steam right nowthough for those who don't have
access otherwise. Which also means it's gotta be

(58:09):
like a $5 purchase. Yeah, 5 bucks.
How's it it's it's full price onXbox right now, so get it on
Steam. Go pay 5 bucks.
What is? What is full price on Xbox?
$20. Yeah, it's, it's, I think it's
$20. So even that is cheap for what
you're getting. I mean Durante, that's like 3000
Canadian but still cheap for what you're getting.

(58:32):
Still, yeah, listen, still the whole, you know, with the game
prices of of different companies, whatnot, there's a
lot of games you can get for very reasonable prices that have
a lot of content in them. There's no doubt about it.
Well, and for video games, like if you can even justify it to be
like 5 bucks an hour, that's cheap entertainment.

(58:55):
Red Dead I'm down to probably a cent an hour or less.
Oh yeah, you've got. Super.
Don't do the math. Don't do the math on that one,
super. Cheap entertainment, but yeah,
Edith Finch. Call it a dollar an hour. 2
bucks an hour that you're gonna be a happier person.
At this, I mean, at this point, you've probably made money on

(59:16):
Mario Kart 8. If we're going to start doing
that. All right, next one on the list
is Track and Field 2. We're just bouncing back and
forth here. We're back on the NES.
Let me tell you, I I am always amazed at how much stuff they
could pack into an NES game. I mean, it's, it's full, you get

(59:40):
15 different events you can planand now and now you get to
represent a country that's like the big jump in track and field
2. Tell tell me about track and
field 2. All right, so yeah, it's the
NES, as you said. So I'm going to be, what, 7-8 or
nine years old when we're playing this?

(01:00:03):
We had, I'm gonna say the 14 or 15 inch TV hooked up to the NES
at mom and Dad's place. And so my brother and I and a
bunch are of buddies like we would get together and play
video games as you can. And Track and Field 2 was one of
those games that really it, it became A-Team effort.

(01:00:26):
So something that we devised again, before the Internet
before and we didn't have Nintendo magazine or anything,
but something that our group devised was using a ping pong
ball to really run across the A button so that you could run
faster or like do all of your events.
Like running that ping pong ballacross the button allowed you to

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be so much better. And then for whatever reason, so
one of my brother's best friendswas this big burly dude.
He was always on the ping ball, ping pong ball and the A button.
And I was really good at just having the precision on hitting
the B. So like the pole vault, the
triple jump, all the the hurdles, like all these

(01:01:10):
different events where you had to be both going as fast as you
can with the A button, but hitting the B button to jump.
And so we had like a group that would try to go through this
whole Olympic Games and we won so many gold medals for Canada.

(01:01:32):
I I'm trying to picture this. So you you put a golf ball on
the road, 'cause you guys, no you're not.
A ping ping ping ball. I don't know why.
Something that's a bit softer, yeah.
A a a A and it's funny 'cause you're not the only ones to do
it. Apparently NES controller people
do all kinds of like things withit to to to make it more
efficient. So you have a ping pong ball on

(01:01:53):
the A button. Yeah.
And the ball, what is rolling off and on the button?
No, you're just really holding that ping pong ball hold firmly
in your between the thumb and the second and third digits and
you're like, the controller is on the desk or yeah, that's
exactly what it was on when you're growing up in the

(01:02:15):
Nintendo was a part of the desk,the TV was on the top shelf.
And so the one guy is just madlygoing back and forth over that
button with Thinkmong ball and Iwas sitting right beside him
with and hitting the B button when I had to.
And so forget. Like this took this, took a
team. Forget about versus mode.

(01:02:37):
Does versus mode come up at all or is it only team effort we
need to win these for Canada? Very little verses, but you
know, it would come out, but that's so often we'd have four
or six guys in the room, everybody would take a turn.
But more often than not, we're just trying to run through the
whole Olympics to win gold for Canada.

(01:03:00):
Which were were there any eventsthat like were were not as
enjoyable You like you just had to get through this one?
The top of my head I can't really recall like even the
fencing was fine and fun. Taekwondo was fine and fun.

(01:03:21):
I loved the canoeing like that. That was kind of my go to one
that was my event for the whole crew.
But then also like the yeah, high jump hurdles as a my
brothers buddy and I, yeah, we, we, we hauled it.
It was so much fun. And that is what what am I

(01:03:42):
saying? 35 years ago?
Yeah, it still sticks with me. 1988 Is there a reason that's
two and not and not one? It there is, yeah.
I never, I never played one. Oh, OK.
Just just checking if there was anything else to it.
It was just, that's just that's the one that you guys got.

(01:04:06):
Ray, maybe I'm wrong, but like, even then, like these Nintendo
games were $100. Oh.
They were expensive, they were. No joke.
No joke. Canadian especially, yeah.
Yeah. So no, we didn't have a ton of
games, so no, I nowadays, yeah. You play the whole series, the

(01:04:26):
anthology and everything. You get through the whole back
story. Not back in the day, dear God.
You had what you had, and you were thankful.
Alright, I may have, I might have had a total of like 5 Super
Nintendo games over the lifetimeof having it and you know, and
one of them was, you know, the Mario All Star classics that had
them all together and I was. And I was, yeah.

(01:04:49):
So you're talking the Super Nintendo?
I'm talking the Super Nintendo, Yeah.
This is a Nintendo game. I had one game for the Nintendo
and that was the Super Mario duck hunt combo.
That's. That's it.
That's it. 'Cause my grandmother.
My grandmother bought us bought me a Nintendo when I was 3 and

(01:05:11):
my parents that she, you know, she bought it not knowing what
it was. And my parents like what what is
this? And and that's it.
That's all I had. No one knew anything about it.
You know it's these stupid core memories though, right?
Like stuck in my way up, stuck in the.
Ring up that I had that. A guy just kind of down the
street and across the street hada Nintendo with both that Mario

(01:05:35):
and duck gun combo. And I clearly remember being
there as a kid because it was like the greatest day of my life
at that point of being able to play Duck Hunt with the with the
gun. With the gun.
Oh. So good, but.
I I. I'm I'm an old.
Man, it feels like everyone knewthere was something special

(01:05:57):
there. Like what do you what do you
mean? What what do you mean?
I'm I'm pointing a device at a screen.
At the screen, TV screen specifically.
This is an arcade. I'm home.
It doesn't matter whose TV it is.
And somehow the TV knows. We were just watching Peter
Jennings on the news, only because I would make a Jim
Gardner joke, but nobody would understand it outside of

(01:06:18):
Philadelphia. But yeah, all right.
See, Ray, Ray, you don't understand all of this in the
80s. I'm sorry you missed all this,
but it's. True, I wasn't.
I was a. Time to be alive.
Let's discuss honourable mention3G club 2 not not hot shots, not

(01:06:38):
everybody's golf, not Tiger Woods, not PGA Tour, not not
even a direct. It was a replacement for two Ki
get like the 2017's Golf Club 2.That's where we we landed at
all, right? So the Dark Ages give me some
semblance of context here, but Ineed to.
I need to hear. More We just found a golf game.

(01:07:00):
OK, Ray, yeah, you're not far off, but a little bit more
context. So shortly after we got the Xbox
in the house. So that's when we started the
fallen Jedi, the Red Dead. So I I make a lot of wine or I
certainly used to. And so the guys I was making
wine with as just one day we're saying like, hey, I got an Xbox,

(01:07:24):
The other guy like, hey, I have an Xbox.
And so we all had Xboxes unbeknownst to each other.
And then we just said like, OK, we need to find a game that we
can play with each other at night.
And we all agree, like we gotta find a golf game, something
that's kind of simple, straightforward, easy, that you
can have fun with. And I don't know, a week later

(01:07:48):
the Golf Club 2 was on sale for 7 bucks, right?
Again, we didn't want to break the Bay, but yeah, 7 bucks, they
throw it in there. Yeah, throw it in there.
Yeah. Right, who doesn't have 7 bucks?
And so we we did that and it wasjust the stupidest fun we could
have had With the Golf Club 2, you can actually, you can create

(01:08:12):
your own course. None of us had that sort of
ambition or drive, but you can actually download a bunch of
courses that other people have created.
And that just became part of thepart of a Friday night when
you're playing golf online with your buddies is OK.
Well, let's go through what are the new courses?

(01:08:33):
Let's give it a shot. That are just so stupid.
The one that we still play to this day is, I believe called
like Doctor Gonzo's don't be a fool or something.
The the snapshot of the chorus is a sand bunker of the male

(01:08:56):
genitalia, to be honest. Like that's that's what you're
looking at. Yeah, if if anybody's curious,
just look up TTP on Mythic Quest.
They can explain exactly what just happened there.
Oh, Dan did some research. Very nice, Dan.
Well, I I also have bad news that the servers are dead now
for the they they just got killed.
Oh. God, in February we we haven't

(01:09:22):
played in a while. Yeah, yeah, they, they, they
died this year. I'm I'm sorry to I'm sorry to
break it to you live. Well.
Not a bad looking game either. No, we had I think 2K is behind
it. So it was like their, their
deviation was like very career heavy and customization heavy.
So I think it's like was a little detour for them there.

(01:09:43):
We we had some good times anyways, but that one course
where if the green isn't a totally flat thing that you can
just roll the putt in from anywhere, it was a funnel that
you could just hit in from 300 yards and it'll end up in the
hole. Just get, just get me on the
green. It'll funnel it into the hole.
It's beautiful. Last I looked, that one course

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had been played about 400 times and our group had 300 of them.
And as far as I'm aware, I'm still the world record holder.
And that was just a little fun part of the group.
Like how, how deep can you go? I think my world, my record is
about 27 under. Par and And that will forever be

(01:10:27):
the case now. Yeah, apparently.
I win. So that that started the three
of us on our Friday night games,But then, right, the pandemic
hit. Another couple of our buddies
had X boxes and or pick one up because we kept talking about

(01:10:50):
our stupid fun on Friday nights and like it again, it just
became such a good grounding point during the pandemic,
right? Like how are you guys doing?
What have you been up to this week?
What are your stories from Whatever?
And that's where we'll go into the next game of Rec Fest, which
is, I believe, still on Game Pass.

(01:11:12):
So we'd play a bit of golf here and there, but also Rec Fest,
which is just a demolition DerbyDerby game.
And that gets a lot of aggression out of a person when
you can just wreck your buddies in a demolition Derby.
Can't recommend enough about it.Yeah, just that that's exactly,

(01:11:34):
that's all it is. Like it's just, there's nothing
more complicated. Just like get out there and just
destroy cars. That is on game pass.
That's the way I can confirm I. Remember it was a freebie on.
PlayStation Plus was probably onPlayStation Plus Two.
I can't remember. Like it it, it's always
everywhere. It's one of it's another one of
those games, just like everywhere.
They probably had a have we everhad a guest transition for us

(01:11:55):
from? We we have before, I was just
going to call out Mr. you know, you want to talk about a guy
feeling comfortable. Now look at this man.
He, he that was seamless. That was seamless.
Man, all right, to be calm you go to crash some cars.
I'll I'll take your guys's chairs next week.
I got this for you. Yeah, wow.
Just it went right to hostile takeover quickly.

(01:12:16):
I think this is. I also just want to say for
anybody who has not checked thisout, I have to look at my Epic
account now, but I'm pretty surethis was an Epic freebie at one
point. Like this guy.
This is another one of those games, just like it's
everywhere. You probably have it and you
don't even know it. It's it's just dumb fun.
Right. And you can actually drive as a

(01:12:38):
harvester like a combine, you can drive as a school bus.
And so we will frequently set itup where we are all a school bus
or we are all a harvester or in fact, you can do what you want
and I'll generally be a right. Exactly, I'll always go with a
harvester cause like it is, it'sa tough machine but man, it

(01:13:00):
sucks to try and everybody's targeting you.
Sorry, not every my friends are targeting me.
Let's let's call it what it is because of all of those things
I've said to them too right? They they want to get me knocked
out. Well, especially.
You're just gonna keep right? You're asking for it.
If you're running a harvester, you're going to get it that way.

(01:13:22):
Yeah, or a school bus, 100%. But like through the pandemic,
like that was such a grounding point for all of us.
We've kind of gotten away from it, but we keep saying like, we
do need to get back to it because it was such an easy and,
and also a safe place, right? Like we could have quite a few

(01:13:44):
drinks and not have to drive home.
We didn't have to be in the sameroom.
Like we could just be safe and awesome and hanging out with
each other. So like again, these video games
that have changed my life now that's what those are some.
It's dumb fun too. That like it, it was one of
those things too, that you wouldhave like dumb fun because

(01:14:05):
you're just like, oh, like it's one of those like, did you just
see that type of games too? Of just some of the chaos and
destruction and stupidity that would happen to be perfect for
that. Absolutely.
All right, travel. This is the point where we go to
a quest, a question from the Oh,no, I'm sorry.
I jumped the game. See you, You derailed me so.
Badly I I skipped. I assumed you transitioned into

(01:14:28):
my next topic for me, but alas, we do not do that now.
We go to a future game rather. And of course, the future game
has to be the purely theoreticalRed Dead Redemption 3, as Ray
doesn't think we're still getting Grand Theft Auto 6 until
2028, so it's going to be another six years after that for
RDR. I believe it when I see it.

(01:14:50):
Well, also like this is 1 where like I I think the the the
person who just left Rockstar kind of was indicating like
that's not even on the the road map right now for them.
So. Don't hold your breath, my.
Friend, I don't think it's looking good, but Red Dead
Redemption 3 is your game you'relooking forward to one way or
the other. You know, I came into this so
optimistic. Now you guys have just killed my

(01:15:14):
soul here in a couple situations.
Yeah. I'm sorry. 2 dead.
Oh my God. Anyone.
Goldeneye Yeah, yeah, I was. Just thinking, you know, we just
just putting out of these situations, what what does what,
what do you want? What would Red Dead Redemption

(01:15:35):
three look like? Cause 2 is a prequel.
So 3 has to be a brand new storyright now.
It kind of has to. Well, so I've I've got my own
hopes and opinions and goals. So when I played Red Dead 2, I
hadn't played Red Dead at all. But I, I have subsequently
played it and you can really appreciate how Red Dead 2

(01:15:56):
dropped get on the doorstep of Red Dead one.
Like just, you know, John's got his, his acreage, the homestead,
whatever you want to call it. And now for Red Dead 1, John's
got to go do his thing. And So what I want from Red Dead
3 is honestly kind of the origins of the gang, like how

(01:16:16):
Dutch and Hosea came to be together, how Arthur and John
were young guys when they joinedthe game.
They're gonna drop it on the doorstep of the whole Blackwater
heist. I also want to know how Micah
came into the game 'cause I, I want to draw Micah so back.

(01:16:40):
Like just greatest villain of all time in all video games, in
my opinion. I'm granted I haven't played an
awful lot of them, but. That that's not, that's not a
hot take either, though. Even with your 20 years of dark
ages, that's a popular that's a that's a reasonable take, I
should say. Thank you.
Yeah. So that's what I want from Red

(01:17:01):
Dead 3 is the origins of the gang.
You know, maybe you're playing as Dutch this time.
Granted, both games, you know, the player dies at the end of
it. So maybe you're playing as is
Davy. Yeah.
Davy died during the heist. There's your gut.
Or Jenny. All right, you got a couple
people there that that you can definitely play as.

(01:17:24):
But yeah, let's see the origin of the game.
All right, now I'm going to try my transition again that I
dropped the ball on something, something, something quest from
the Channel 3 history books. But I'm OK, so this is going to
be a little different because this this is a very specific
quest we're discussing here withvery specific parameters.
And what the heck happened with the Lego Dad V Trav G Coffee

(01:17:49):
Golf challenge here? Like Coffee Golf, a game that
rode away for a while there and just fun, dumb little fun game
on your phone to the point that it had a a Channel 3
championship event hosted as well.
And something happened that prompted a Lego Dad V trav G
that like, not only do you guys do it, but other people jump

(01:18:09):
back on the wagon too. That's awesome.
Yeah. So when coffee golf was really
happening, God, I guess it's a little over a year ago, there
was this like an NCAA elimination bracket sort of
tournament. And Lego Dad and I, I think we

(01:18:31):
came up against each other. It was at the semis or even
before that, but it was such a hotly contested event where like
him and I were just going day-to-day trading blows.
But that dude won. It's not that I lost.
He won. And I openly congratulated him
on that. And then I, I don't, I don't

(01:18:54):
think he won. The whole thing doesn't matter.
But he beat me. And then a little while ago,
there was one of these quests onChannel 3 about what game is
mostly dead. And I just threw out there.
I was like coffee golf. Like, you know, we haven't done
much of this. And Lego was so quickly to
respond to say, let's let's go, like, let's do a match.

(01:19:16):
And so I set it up. And just like the old days, the
dude beaten, you know, I tried, but he's good.
He's persistent. And again, it's not like I
didn't lose. He won.
And I'm just glad we had that week because, yeah, so once him

(01:19:37):
and I set it up, suddenly a lot of other people were back in for
that week. And it was, you know, that
little bit of nostalgia. I think we all enjoyed it, but
we're all good to let it sleep for a while.
But we'll all be back again for a week at some point.
And that's entirely, like, without Channel 3, that would

(01:19:57):
never have happened, right? So yeah, it's not the game,
guys. So you play with.
Last question, Trav, what is your favorite feature on Channel
3? I guess I'm just gonna go with
that whole stereotypical it's who you play with, without a

(01:20:20):
doubt. This whole community, the entire
podcast here. I think you guys have heard
where all these games have made an impact, like Mario Kart.
And in particular those Chicago trips were incredible.
We just talked about, yeah, the coffee Golf with Lego Dad, but

(01:20:43):
also all the talks I've had withDennis and Jamie and all the
other guys. Just so incredible.
Yeah. Just being here, being a part of
the community. Also, big shout out to Target
because the Red Dead targets, especially now that my son has

(01:21:06):
been been playing Red Dead and he is doing super good with it.
Yeah, yeah, these are fun. Who?
Your your son who when people hear this, will have popped up
in the the ticket counter this week.
I think I popped his Let's cook.Actually, that was, that was a
bit ago. Oh, but oh, it's a return.

(01:21:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't did.
I was actually in the counter. I don't know if it was.
Oh Frizz has one. That, but I think it was just
from a. School, yeah, it's pretty
similar but yeah, no, just the one day he was cooking up supper
for the OR his lunches for the next week and we just we let it
go he was pretty happy about. That so it's I think it's in the

(01:21:47):
ticket counter this week. I think I dropped it in there.
Nice And on that note, we've made it to the end of another.
What are your 3? Thank you, Trav for being with
us. You can find a podcast at C3 dot
GG slash podcast dropping every Wednesday morning at 3:33 AM
Eastern on all the major platforms, including Spotify,
YouTube Music and Apple Podcast.I'm Ray Dan puts this all

(01:22:08):
together. Our theme song is by Caster
Garden and for our executive producer, Joel Willis.
Have a good day everybody. Stick around like 10 more
seconds for Ray's worst take of all time to interrupt the
closing song. It's a good, it's a good one,
no? It's not, it's.

(01:22:30):
I can, I can say hi now and I can and I can say that tomorrow
I, I, I forgot it was tomorrow already.
It's a special day, but because I'm in charge of it, I decide
who gets the special day and whogets bumped.
I don't know if you remember, itwas two years ago.
Two years ago on October 20th. Super Mario Wonder and Spider

(01:22:53):
Man 2 released on the team today.
But because Ray is in charge of which game to play, Quest
tomorrow gets Mario Wonder. Oh yeah, it's obvious.
Ray's in charge? Well.
It's not just that you just pullthe game.
Also nothing, but also nothing released on October 21st
apparently. At least nothing worth that I

(01:23:13):
just looked at. So Spider Man 2 is gonna go on
that day. Nothing that I could be like,
hey, there could be one person out there.
Maybe, well you you could put down that all of the all the
Mysterio trials have a crown quest for them now too.
So there you go. On the 21st, people can play a
Mysterio trial. One day I'll get one of the one
of the three games that makes mewant to get APS 5, but it's just

(01:23:34):
not worth it like that. Who's put where where?
Which movies are people playing The front you?
Is that playable? Can you play that?
Yes, they they released the trilogy a couple years ago.
It's everywhere. Nobody has it.
Your your disrespect is. Nobody has it.
Hideo Kojima is going to have words for you.

(01:23:56):
It's just going to explode your head with a psychic pulse and be
dumb. Travis, Travis.
That's what PCs are for. It's a Play PlayStation.
My PC is my PlayStation console.Trav Trav, do you have Metal
Gear Solid anywhere? No.
No, he doesn't. He's stiff.
Of course he doesn't. I I told you already, nobody has
that game, man. This is the the level of

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disrespect. Is, let me tell you, Metal Gear
Solids, Metal Gear Solid is it'sup there, not as it's up there
with Sonic, with Sonic games as the games.
No. No no, no.
What it what it has games that get that people got more excited
about the memories than the actual.
Games I'm recording you right now I.
Want you to be aware of. This good?

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Put that down. Put it down as games that people
give. You know what, yo?
It's the equivalent. It's the equivalent of everyone
that thought that there's a goodTron movie or game out there.
I I I I agree. With you, I agree there is.
There's just the idea. The idea of of Tron, the idea of
Sonic, and the idea of Metal Gear Solid is is more popular

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than the actual thing. You you just take it one step
too forth. You can record all that.
Channel 3. Is the future.