Video Game Book Club: God of War (2018) (Video on Spotify)

Infocynic, darthsmeagol, bayesic, and whitethunder represent the video game book club to discuss 2018's God of War reboot. Spoilers abound in this chat so be warned.

The book club is about to embark on Batman: Arkham Asylum. Feel free to play along with the group.

Episode Transcript

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Yeah, I absolutely adore this game.

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How? Much XP did I get for this?
Oh, let's go. I can honestly say that it makes

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gaming more exciting than it's ever been.
That's all I'm saying. That's it.
Welcoming everyone for the videogame book club discussion of God

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of War. I'm Doris Miguel.
I'm hosting this with Info Cynic.
He'll be taking over all the questions once he gets in here.
He's just behind schedule because of work, but he'll be
jumping in as soon as he can. We have with us White Thunder
and Basic. Glad to have you guys here.
Hey, yeah. Thanks for having us.

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And behind the scenes give a special shout out to Dan Tucker
for doing all the producing behind us.
He won't be able to chat just how it's set up +2.
He doesn't have his voice fully back yet, but we definitely
appreciate his help behind the scenes for this.
Yes I agree Gio basics background for this is lit so
all done basic I. I was literally working on this

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like up until the last second before we went live.
So I'm glad. I'm glad it worked out all
right. I wish I had a a cool background
now too guys, what the heck. Hey dude, I think you should
just leave. I think I can make this happen
in like 30 seconds. Hold on a second.
All right, so let's start off byasking you guys, is this your
first time playing God Wars 2018or was this a repeat play

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through for you guys? It was my yeah, it was my first
time going through it. Yeah, I'd been aware of it and
it's it was one of those games that was in my backlog for a
long time. I never got around to it.
So this gave me a really good excuse to hop in and check it
out. How are you white Thunder?
Is this your first time? I know you're mentioning earlier

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while playing Ragnarok. Yeah, I played, I played on War
twice, straight through, like I played it on the PS4, then on
the PS5 again and then I played through Ragnarok and then was
going through the DLC on Ragnarok.
Yeah. This is my first time playing
it. My brother has been after me for
years to play this game, and of course there's anything but.

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I was a perfect opportunity to fire me for break this game out
and play it, and I definitely enjoyed it.
Alright, if we're glad to have you here, we'll go ahead and
turn things over to you. Yeah.
Thanks everyone. I am sorry, I am waiting things
that happened that worked Those who don't recognize me, I'm not

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very often on the stream. I am info cynic and yeah, thanks
Smeagol for hoping getting you guys started.
I did not catch anything you guys so far, but hopefully it's
been a great conversation. Want to get your kind of your
thoughts on like you know, so I didn't wind up playing the game.
I I just you know, I kind of bounced off at it was this was a

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bad time for me and I was super busy.
Tell me on, you know, playing this game from the mechanical
standpoint, graphics, gameplay, sound design, You know what,
what is it that about this game that's fun besides the story?
So obviously we can't talk aboutthe story for a couple.
Minutes here. I mean, I feel like one of the

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biggest things about this game is the visceral like feeling you
get from each fight. Like I feel like I don't play a
lot of third person games and when I do, there's a bit of a
disconnect in like the characterand what they're doing in the
game. You're doing some fun stuff
that's great, blah, blah, blah. But like I feel like something
about the distance of Kratos to the camera and how close you are

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to the character and how big he is on your screen to when he's
doing stuff. It's like there's a immediate
dopamine hit when you get into any fight in this game and it
just, it's unmatched in any gameI've played since.
Yeah, I think for me it's also, it's definitely the the the
combat was a big was a big selling point.
So when I first started playing it, I I approached it like some

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of the older God of War games, which are very hack and slashy
in nature where you just go through and destroy everything.
And you you can't do that with this game.
You have to pay a lot of attention to kind of every fight
really. But it makes it, it makes every
fight feel like really engaging.So whenever, whenever anything
is happening in game, you're always really, you're really
focused. And the combat itself is also
just like really polished. And there's like a lot of

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options for, for customizing, like how you want to play it.
I don't know like how, how spoilery that is, but there's
like, you know, special attacks you can, you can purchase and
you can, you know, use them to, you can kind of tailor them to
say like, well, this is what this is like the way that I want
to play the game. And so those are like the, this
is the weapons and abilities that I'm going to go for.
That's cool, that's cool. That's always.
I love to see different options like you know, I can create a

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build that kind of fits my play style.
Interesting. I think it stands out for me
without getting into story stuff, is the music is great and
the voice acting particularly. I got to give a shout out to
Christopher Judge. His voice acting as Kratos was

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spectacular. Yeah, he's a, it's, it's funny
because so there's a kind of a meme of him just, you know,
saying boy the entire time in the game.
And I have, I have AI have a catnamed named Roy.
And every time I've taken to basically just calling him every
time I want him to come somewhere.
Now I'm just like boy. So it's like his, his way of

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speaking has definitely bled into, you know, my, my everyday
life. That's great.
That's great. Love to hear it.
Love, love to see, you know, video games bleeding over into
real life like that. That's the kind of sign that the
game has really, you know, penetrated at a level where it's
like, this isn't just something I'm doing for fun.
This, this is, this is serious. This is part of me now.

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Yeah. And you know, Christopher Judge,
you know, obviously I know speaking all, you're a Stargate
fan. I'm a Stargate Stargate fan.
You know, those kind of, I hadn't heard Christopher Judge
in anything since watching Stargate.
And it's like, whoa, this takes you back.
That's part of why I'm the fan of this.
Yeah, it it's hard to imagine someone else for that role, But

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hey, let's, let's, let's let's speculate for the last couple
minutes here. Who?
Who else would you cast not as, as Kratos change out one voice
actor. Who?
Who would you? Who would you change?
I mean, Christopher Judge did a great job, but like, let's,
let's stay with who would you recast as Kratos?

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Ryan Reynolds, let's go. Let's hit Deadpool.
Let's get Deadpool out. I'm not sure about dad out about
that, but I do think that like Jason, Momoa would have been a
very good choice. Yeah.
He has that deep, growly voice. He can get really like, I don't
know, I feel like that would have been a good choice if we
have to go for one. Also Stargate alone.
Is it stargate? I never watched Stargate.

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He was on Atlantis. How about Dwayne the Rock
Johnson? I think, I think it came up with
my C3 memories. I think it was today, you know,
put the Rock into something. So let's put the Rock in there.
God of War. I'm I'm going Jack Black.
That's my pick. He's in, he's in everything now,
so. He is, he is.

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He is literally in everything. Actually, I think it's Chris
Pratt that's in doing all the voicing now, so.
Now, Jack, Jack Flack did such afabulous job with Claptrap.
I mean, what, what could possibly, what could possibly go
wrong there? He's Steve Jack Chat.
Here, he's Steve. Give him a break.

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Charles Martinet has Crotos. Yes, let's let's, let's go.
We've all we've all seen the, the, the Minecraft trailer,
right? I've.
Been. I've been purposely avoiding it
to avoid. It so he's Steve in that game
and yeah, OK, I I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure what's going on
anyways. Geodad calling for Batista that

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has crotch. That could work, I could see it.
I could actually see that working, yeah.
Now that that's a call for a live reaction of ASIC watching
the Minecraft trailer. I.
Don't know actually I did the the after show.
Going back to what White Thunderwas saying, I I did hear rumours

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of Jason Mel possibly playing Frakes us for the live action
show. Oh, really?
I can see. I mean, I don't think he I don't
know if he like has that. Like I don't know if he looks
like Kratos cause Kratos is likenot tall really.
You know what I mean? Like is cradles tall?
What's this? What's how tall is Krados?
Let me goolb that up. Yeah, there's a there's a

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important question. All right, well, as you're about
to enter the spoiler zone, I do want to give it a final word.
And thanks to anyone who's participated with us this far
and wants to drop. We are going to transition into
full spoiler mode before that. I do want to announce we are
awarding special XP for this foranyone who can correctly guess

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other than use Needle because you know, the next game after
Batman. So our next game is going to be
Batman Asylum. We have the bonus week here
between games for Vampire Survivors.
After that, we're going to play another game.
And there has been enough hints that I think someone who's
really clever and really observant could figure it out.

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So you can put your answers in Twitch chat if you're in Twitch
chat, or you can put your answers to talk here.
We'll announce it at the end of this stream.
All right. And hopefully that was enough
rambling and ranting to give everyone time to drop off.
If they were, beware of spoilers.
Excellent. All right, so spoiler warning is

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in full effect and all right, let's let's take it to you.
Let's go to skate golf first. I know you've been itching to
tell us everything. Tell us about your favorite
parts from the story or maybe maybe just give us a quick
summary of like what you really love about this.
For me, I think it has to be thelore.

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I just love being able to go in,explore everything and just
learn all those different, you know, Norse mythology.
Just it was so there's so much packed in like every little
thing like the the Yoner shrines.
Of course, once you get in the mirror head, you know, attached
to you, he's constantly talking and, and giving you background

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information of, of that world. And I, I just found that to be
so fascinating. And that really is what really
drew me in and and kept me wanting to come back and
continue to explore this world. OK.
How would you be is it? So I think for me story wise, it
was definitely definitely the relationship between Kratos and

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Atreus and they're and particularly how they there are
different ways of approaching like grief.
I guess throughout the game, because there's one, there's one
scene in particular. It happens pretty early on.
So I guess kind of minor spoiler, but after I think it's
like after you finish the the 1st going through Alpine for the
first time and Kratos says like,I guess he heard his wife.

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I forgot exactly what the details were, but he like heard
his wife in this like gigantic pillar of light and Atreus asked
him about it and he's like, no, I didn't see her.
And then she's like, and Atreus essentially accuses him of not
caring about about his mother. It's like you do even do even
like doesn't even matter to you.And there's one line in
particular that Kratos, he replies to Atreus by saying, do
not mistake my, my silence for lack of grief.

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And like that one line, I, I, I'm actually answered that for
one of the quests that we had for this, for this game.
And that one line just hits likereally hard, right?
Because I think, you know, with Kratos in the first few games,
he's very like grieving over hisfamily, his previous family, but
it's in a much more like ragey kind of Hulk Tastic way.

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And so in this game is a much more subdued kind of he's
dealing with this grief internally.
And I thought it was a really interesting direction to take
that character in. So I liked how that sort of the
way that they handled that situation kind of evolved
throughout the course of the game.
But that one line in particular,I, I actually tried to Google it
to figure out what the exact quote was so I could bring it
here. And that one thing is referenced

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in like a bunch of different Reddit posts and YouTube,
YouTube videos. So I think that it actually kind
of resonated with a lot of people and not just me.
So that was probably my favoritepart.
Yeah. It's interesting too.
Like from what I from what I know of the original God of War
games, Crico sounds like a very one note character.
Whereas with this one, they really did flush out his

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character, make him care about him, make him care about that
background, care about's relationship with his son.
Yeah, I love the new background there on White Thunder.
I I saved some God of War pictures but they're not popping
up in my options to have as a picture for some reason.

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I don't get it. Like, I saved a bunch of
hilarious God of War images, butthey're not letting, they're not
showing up for me to pick. Yeah.
Well, let's hear from you from your standpoint.
What did you what did you learn about the story?
I mean, the story itself was great.
Like I know we all know a littlebit about the mythology, right?
But just like hearing it into more in the more in depth

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engaging way is like awesome. Like I spent a lot of time just
like rolling around listening tomirroring Kratos talk.
Like I got I was like upset finding places I hadn't been to
where I'm like, I don't want to go in there yet.
I want to hear how this story ends.
Like just being so like I was saying, it's a very visceral
game, but also like aside from that visceral fighting, it's

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like it's such an engaging, engrossing story you're
experiencing for the first time.Because like even if you're very
up on like old mythology with like Norse mythology, they kind
of circumvent how it was portrayed already.
And they had to rewrite a lot ofthat because it's all a lot of
that's like based around Loki and Loki doing stuff, right?

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So like with Loki not being involved in this N mythology
they're trying to put forward, they had to like rewrite how
everything works for the storyline.
And that's just like really awesome seeing how like beats
that portray out in Norse mythology, they had to rewrite
and still make work going forward.
You know what I mean? Like, so it's just like hearing
how that all worked out was justreally engaging.
Sure. Well, let.

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Me jump in really quick I want to also point out because you
mentioned something where you said like I don't want to go
here yet because I'm busy listening to them talk yeah the
exact same feeling so many timeswe're like I'm on the I'm on the
canoe getting ready to go dock somewhere and Mamir's in the
middle of a story and he's like we'll pick this up later and I'm
like. Oh, just keep.
Telling me the story, man Yeah, I would like literally just stop
and not go anywhere. I did that a bunch too.

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Yeah. Because you're like, OK, I know
you'll finish the story, but I'll be in the middle of
something and forget where we were that story.
So you just finish it off, bro. Like, let's just take a minute.
Like, yeah, it feels sad those Busters are going nowhere.
Like, let's just try, yeah. I mean, done in the full blown
spoiler territory now though. You said Loki's not in this.
But of course, that big reveal at the end that Atrius is Loki.

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Gotta say, you just spoiled it. I had said Loki's not in this.
You came out and said Loki's in it.
Let's just get that out of the way right now, brother.
It was warned, you know. If you're hanging around this
late after the spoiler warning, it's on you.
Yeah, that's a great. That's a great like minute 99,
like minute 5999, like reveal atthe very end of the game right

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before black screen is like, Oh yeah, by the way, that guy's
Loki. See you later.
Have a good one. See you soon later.
Yeah. I did not see that coming.
I never saw it coming either. No.
Yeah. Oh man.
Yeah, I think, I think if you'reup on your Norse mythology,
knowing that Loki is the one whoindirectly kills Balder in

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North, that's kind. Of what I was saying is like,
even though they had to like rearrange some of the beats
because Loki's not the inherent like antagonist going forward,
they still kept the ending. It's like Loki still Atreus.
Loki still ended up killing Balder inadvertently, you know
what I mean? Like there's a lot of things
that he's still doing going forward that like, is

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inadvertently part of old N mythology that they had to like.
It's just it's yeah, it's so good.
Yeah, it really is. Let's talk supporting
characters. So everyone loves to hate on the
boy Atreyas. What?
What's up with that? Like is he really that bad of a

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character? Well, yeah, he's pretty
immature. He's a, he's a, he's a rash
young lad at the beginning of the game, you know what I mean?
Like, but Kratos is also a hard dude.
So it's like there's like a dichotomy there where it's like
he's very young and inexperienced and Kratos is way
too experienced and way too hardand like they need to balance
each other out, you know? I think he was especially

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annoying when he first finds outthat.
He's a God. He's a God, Yeah, Because he got
so cocky and arrogant about everything and I was just like,
shut. Up.
That's true. That was like one of the only
times I didn't really like him. Like, I did like him because I'm
like, yeah, finally you're like being a man about shit.
But like, yeah, it was one of the few times when I was like,

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yeah, Trace's character is like a little wild right here.
I'm not sure if it like I don't know how I feel about it, but it
was necessary for growth, right?I I think it made sense, right?
Like I, I don't, I understand why people don't like him and I,
I do understand the complaint, but I think for me, I actually
thought it made a lot of sense that he would go that way, but I
felt like it was kind of rushed,right?

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Like I would have liked a littlebit more time.
Maybe you get the. Meal.
Earlier on and he kind of gets more and more, he kind of gets
like more and more cocky throughout the story.
And then like comes back at the end, right 'cause there was, it
was like the, the beats from, you know, being this kind of
really naive, innocent. I, I love everyone kind of dude
to just being like, you know, shut up elf or whatever, shut up

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dwarf. Like I'm like, what?
Like where did this come from? Like this isn't the same dude.
At the end, like near the end ofthe game when they're seeing all
of the flashbacks and Credo seeshimself kill his father in the
old games. And then it shows Atreus kill
whatever the dude's name was Thorin or whatever he could
whoever, like Thor's kid that hekills, whatever that guy's name

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is, it shows him kill that guy. And he's like, that wasn't me.
That couldn't have been me. So it's like, I don't know if he
was in his. I don't know if it was like,
just like a dissociative thing where he was like, I'm a God.
Oh my God, this is crazy. And like just wasn't thinking.
And now in retrospect, he's like, there's no way that was
me. So like, yeah, I think that that
was like less him. Like, just like him going out of

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control and just kind of blacking out and being like, oh,
straight God power. This is sick.
And then coming too later to be like, whoa, what happened there?
Like, yeah. So comment chat from Geodad is,
you know, I mean for all of these kind of a whiny brat and
annoying. He is written, he acts like a
kid and you know. Yeah, that's the thing.
He's a child. He's like at that age too, where

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like all the testosterone's going to start pumping through
his body. So it's like.
Yeah, and then that's got to be part worse because you know
you're you're part giant too. So what does that do to your?
Yeah, but now, like I said, I thought, I thought it made
sense, right? Like, I don't, I don't think it
makes sense to say it's a bad character because he was a child
or acting like a kid, because it's like, yeah, he is right.

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It's just I, I just thought thatthe beats were too rushed.
I would have liked a little bit more time to go through, you
know, because he then he comes back at the end and he's like,
oh, I'm so sorry for everything.And it's like, you mean like
from like 10 minutes ago or you know?
Yeah, exactly. All right, so other other
supporting characters in the cast, we've got the the Smith

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brothers. Yeah, I was going to say we were
talking about how good Christopher Judge was as a voice
actor, but I mean, Mamir, the guy doing Mamir is.
Oh yeah. Maybe one of the best voice
actors I've ever heard in a game.
Dude, he just. Kills the.
Role dude, he's so good and maybe one of my favorite
characters in the game, honestly.
Like, I wasn't very familiar with the mirrors of character

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until he played that game, and now I'm just like, man, what a
Gee, that guy's awesome. Neil Duncan, a Scottish actor.
Alex There Neil Duncan, born in 1958 in Scotland.
All right. Yeah, I could have spent hours
just listening to that guy tell stories.
Yeah, he's such a good storyteller.

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Like I was. Going to tell you there
apparently is a novelization of the game because why not?
And he narrates the audio book for it.
Oh my God. OK, Yeah, well, I know what?
I know what? I'm listening.
To. I'm going to put that on the
GOOG. Right now, dude, Channel priest
put that in the shop. I was AI was a big fan of Brock.
I think Brock was my favorite, one of my favorite characters in

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the game. He's got he's just so he's so
just vulgar and weird and it washilarious.
Like he's got a, he's got a line.
He's he's trying to tell Kratos something and he says like he
says like the details are fuzzier than a wolver's butt
hole or something like that. And it just made when he said
that, I was just, I was just dying laughing.
It's he's just so, he's so funny, the way he's just so dry
with his vulgarity too, that it's just, it was, it was

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impossible not to laugh every time he had something new to
say. I love how different the
brothers are because I have a twin brother and we are as
different as night and day. And so it's cool to see that in
their relationship that they areso different.
Yeah, they do truly care about each other, even though they
obviously they had that record at the beginning of the game.

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Yeah, yeah, the the it's like, and wasn't there a lot like you
guys are brothers? Yeah.
You know, I don't have a twin brother.
I do. I do have a younger brother and
definitely. Yeah, you can.
You can see like, you know, there's there's that little bit
of push and pull. It's like you drive me crazy.
But at the same time, like, you know, sometimes sometimes, you

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know, we can really accomplish alot together.
We got Fran hold on, a second important character there.
What we all you? Were like, yeah, yeah, she's an
important character. But what?
What do we all think of her? You know, How do we like her

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story? I thought it was so I'm trying
to think of how to, how to word this it, it made it made a lot
of sense kind of why she behavedthe way that she did.
And I, I, I liked her kind of rant at the very end, like
after, you know, I guess we're in spoiler territory after you

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finally end up killing her son, who she's basically spent
however many, you know, thousands of years trying to
protect. And it's like, it's, it's
interesting knowing that God of War Ragnarok exists and that
she's in that game and that she's apparently there for a
while 'cause it's like, it's kind of intriguing to see like,
well, how does that, how does that relationship kind of
evolve? So I'm, I'm definitely like
interested in playing Ragnarok after this so that I can kind of

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see what, how she, you know, what her, what her art kind of
looks like. I was going to ask if any of us
have played Ragnarok because. I haven't yet, no.
You're the only one. Get ready.
Dude. Get.
Ready. I know.
I'm excited, yeah. It's amazing the shout outs was
a who who pushed that Joel was going to jump into Ragnarok to

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start and then someone. Was it you Smeagol or was it you
Thunder? It was me.
Pushed really hard to say no. Start with 2018.
Yeah, I mean, Ragnarok is just so good and I don't think you
you don't need to play the OG God War to experience Ragnarok
the way it is. But I mean, it definitely helps

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100%. But man, that game, that game,
oof, that's another conversation, obviously.
That's obviously, yeah. There's your there's your first
free hint. Ragnarok is not the next game, I
think, yeah. Try trying to space things out
of it. Will we come back to Ragnarok
someday? I don't know.
Maybe not making any promises. Let's talk Jorgenmander who?

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What are we thinking about Jorgenmander?
Guys, what's your thoughts on Jorgenmander?
The first time I saw him come out, I was just like, that's
when I knew I was like, all right, this the the spectacle is
still there because it was kind of I felt there.
There's a lot of moments, like you mentioned before, you know,
in the in the pre show and God of War 3, when you're climbing
up of, of, you know, you're climbing up guy's body and then

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you find Poseidon, right? And there was, I felt like some
of that was missing at the startof the game, not missing, but it
like wasn't there. And I was wondering like, oh,
are we going to still get that? And then as soon as you see, as
soon as you see, you know, this gigantic snake come out.
And just like that, the way thathe talks, it was like, all
right, cool. This is still like, this is
still at its heart, kind of the,the, the God of War series that

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I remember, you know? Yeah, I mean the pacing is I
feel like the pacing is good forwhat the length and what you're
doing because like you start offlike hunting that deer in the
snow and everything's kind of look low key chill and you go
back to your cave and then all of a sudden boulder shows up.
And that fight with boulder is actually a pretty like intense
fight, you know what I mean? Like so I think that's where
you're like, oh, the spectacle in this game is like huge and

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different on a like on a more personal level, like it's more
like up front in your face and not on the like, just because
how third persons. Like I was saying like the the
distance of the camera on Kratos.
Like in the old God of War games, it's like it's very like
aggressive and it's hack and slashy, but like there's nothing
like just being like 3 inches from his shoulders and just like

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seeing everything from his perspective, you know what I
mean? Just makes everything seem
bigger for some reason. That's.
Fair. That's fair.
Yeah, I want to bring attention to what Alden was just saying in
chat about how it's an interesting narrative and how
different people handle grief. I think that's so true.
A very good observation they hadthere 'cause it is quite
different and as you point out too, like apparently Kratos and

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the other games is where Freya ends up at the end of this one.
Yeah, it's really just like it'sa it's a, this game is a
metaphor on father son relationsbecause like, Kratos and Trey's
have a weird relationship. I mean, obviously Odin has a
weird relationship with all of his children, but then Thor has
a bad relationship with his children and then Freya's got a
bad relationship with her kids. Like it's all about like family

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dynamics and how you're trying to like, mend what could be a
good relationship into a bad thing and not trying to force
too much one way or the other. You know what I mean?
For sure, for sure. Yeah, that's that's great.
Trying to think what else shouldwe talk about here?
Let's talk about just. The Valkyries.
Can we talk about the Valkyries?Finally?
Are we going to get into that, 'cause that's where the game,

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that's where the game really gets into it for me.
Because like the. Game is great.
The great like the game is all-encompassing.
You could spend hours and hours and hours just like listening to
stories and going and exploring areas and and that's great.
But like if you want to get intothe nuts and bolts of this game,
you've got to go through the Valkyrie fights.
That's really where you like thegame is easy.
The game is a very easy game. Technically it's you cruise to

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that game in nine hours no problem, but you want to beat
the valkyries. That's where you're like, OK,
I'm actually Kratos, the God of War, and I'm actually fighting
real bosses because the bosses in this game are little
lackluster to be honest with you.
But like man, the Valkyrie fights are just the best.
I feel. That Alvin in the chat said the
Valkyrie is where the game stopsbeing hack and slash and becomes
dark. True, dude, it's so true.

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You really need to like understand the the IT is, it's
it is, it's a Souls game. At that point you need to
understand all of the of the attacks they're doing and where
you're like spacing is and whereyour timing is and how your
windows of attack are. Like you just can't run in there
and just hope for the best. You really have to have a plan
when you roll in there. Well, like that you just
answered a a question on Channel3 about, you know, favorite

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souls like game and as soon as Iwas like God of War for me,
'cause I mean it's closer to ever come to it and the
Valkyries. To me that's souls like.
Game. Like I'll tell you this, the
Valkyries, I'm going through Bloodborne right now.
I am enjoying Bloodborne for what it's worth.
It's OK. It's a very satisfying to beat
the bosses in Bloodborne. Some of the bosses and

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Bloodborne seem like wildly unrealistic.
Some of them are just so insane.You're like, I don't know how
people get through this. When you fight the Valkyries,
your losses are on you. You can see where you made the
mistakes. You can like kind of judge like,
oh, I know she's doing this. I know like with the Boston
Bloodborne, it's just kind of a while, the hope for the best
kind of a situation in my mind at least.

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But with the Valkyries, you could really like understand
what their attack patterns are and like where you need to be
spacing from a move. Like, I don't know, it feels
more attainable than the Bloodborne fights do to me.
I thought my, my favorite thing about the Valkyrie fights is
that each one you go through individually is pretty, it's
pretty tricky until you learn what the moves are.

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And it's like each Valkyrie kindof introduces one different new
move, right? Like one of the Valkyries can
like shoot ice blocks at you. The other one has that that kind
of like that slamming attack where it kind of blinds you and
then she flies up in the air. And also it like has a couple of
like blinding attacks. And it's the thing that I like
the most about those fights is that when you finally get to

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Sigrin, who's the the, the last,the last Valkyrie, she's just a
combination. She's like, she's not, she
doesn't do anything new, I don'tthink, but she's just like every
single Valkyrie fight in one. And so you have to have gone
through all of the other fights and really mastered them to be
able to to do that fight. There's a couple things I wasn't

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a big fan of in the secret fight, but I I did like how they
basically made it like this is this is a culmination of
everything you've kind of gone through in the end game and now
it's like this is the final likebig challenge.
So it's like if you were able todo all the other fights, then
you should be able to do this one.
I won't say no problem, but you should be able to do it and know
why something went wrong. Did we all fight the Valkyries?

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I just beat Sigrin this morning.No, it's frustrating getting
moment of my life. Yeah, I, I will say that like,
you know, I've been gaming for aminute.
I think beating Sigrin was like one of the more satisfying
battles that I've gone through. I'm I'm going to beat
Bloodborne, so I'll let you knowhow it feels at the end of
Bloodborne. But like that was maybe again,

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it's I hate keep coming back to this, but it's just there's such
a visceral feeling in all these fights, like you're just so up
close and personal with all of it that it just like it's hard
to like compare another game's fights to this game.
It just it's world's different and feels so much closer to the
battle. Like it just makes you feel more
engaged in the game and like you're more synced into it.

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When when Kraos gets hit, you like feel it 'cause you're so
close and you're like you're there, you can see.
And just, I don't know, it just they did such a good job on the
fight system that like it's, youthink about it.
I think about it still. I think about it.
I think about it. That's great.
I'd love to hear these kind of, you know, these, you know,
reactions where it's like the, you know, again, the game is

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sticking with you. You say I'm like, it's one of
the one of the things I'm the most proud of ever having done
in a video game. That's always a satisfying
feeling when it's like, yes, I'mfinally, you know, you know,
whether it's beat the impossibleboss or, you know, checked off
something off your bucket list, you.
Know oh it's a stand up and screen moment when you beat.
Sick. You're like.

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Wow, you're like yes dude. Oh my God.
I, I screamed internally because, you know, I, I game
when the kids are all asleep. And so if I did that, my wife
might actually murder me. That's fair.
Yeah, don't. Don't get worried about your
wife if they wind up in these stories in the first place.
And all right, I'll end up on a Netflix special.

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All right, you can change one thing about the game.
It can be. We've already talked about
changing the actors. But you know, OK, And you can't
just say like I want to, you know, make it longer.
Got right on. We'll play right on.
But you can change one thing. What are you changing?
All right, I actually I I got this already.

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So there was one thing that I soI I saw a lot of like 10 out of
10 and five star reviews for thegame.
And there's one thing that I think the game is very good.
I give it a solid like 9. I think the one thing that I
wasn't a big fan of was how theyhandled the exploration.
So the issue that I had is that like really early on, you're in

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this like huge lake and you can kind of go wherever you want.
There's a, there's a lot of places that you can explore and
the problem there's a couple problems.
So 1 is that most of the places that you can explore just like
kind of randomly, the chests andpuzzles reward either silver or
like upgrade materials. And I think my problem is that a

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lot of that stuff isn't really worth it because you can go
through and usually buy better armors or find new stuff like if
you just go through the main story.
And so I felt like the I felt like the exploration didn't have
enough really good rewards outside of the like the side,
like the the side quests and theother, the other part of that

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too, is that a lot of the times you'd go to a new location and
then you'd explore like most of it.
And then you'd encounter like a door or a puzzle or like a chest
that is locked behind an abilitythat you're not going to get
until much later in the game. So the game kind of, to me, it
felt a little bit like it wantedto be more of an open world than
it actually ended up being just because I felt like the

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exploration didn't really rewardyou well enough.
And in some cases you were kind of discouraged from going to
because like if you if you were to try and explore everything as
early as possible, you're going to have to backtrack once you
get, you know, your new abilities to go back and get
that last puzzle or that last door.
So I think like either either change the way that it works to
reward the exploration better ormake it more clear that the

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exploration is primarily a, a vehicle for getting a platinum.
And that you, you really shouldn't spend a whole lot of
time doing that until you go through the main story and you
have all of your stuff. Because there's like, for
example, there's that one realm.I think it's, I think it's
pronounced like Muspelheim. Or is it is it is?
It no, you're right, you got. It the mist realm, the mist
realm where you go through and do like the end game kind of

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grinding for silver and stuff yeah, Nifelheim and when you you
can't even get there until you've already made it through
the main story. And so it's just one of those
things where like if somebody would have told me before
starting the game, hey, don't worry about exploring right now.
Just go through the main game and you're going to have like
95% of what you need to start doing end game content.

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And the rest of it you can get from doing the exploration and
grinding event. I think that would have been a
little bit like it would have made some parts of the game a
little bit less frustrating because I spent a lot of time
like just going through and trying to like grind out a
little bit to Max out armors. And it's like you really don't
need to do that until you're until you're preparing for the
Valkyrie fights. That's a good point because I
did that. I spent every chance I could get

(35:59):
to explore. I was exploring and I'm sure it
made the game take so much longer than it needs to be
because I also had to remember where stuff was because like you
said, it was locked behind an ability I didn't have yet.
So I remember where it was so I could go back to it later and
complete it. Yeah, I mean, not to spoil the
next game, but the next game they did address that.

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Yeah, that's that's. Areas are just open to you, and
enemies there are wildly difficult, so you can go explore
if you want, but you're just going to die so there's not much
about you. I call it a Xenoblade model.
So again, I'm familiar with it does that where it's like, yeah,
yeah, yeah, that's very, very much start of the game.
There is a level 95 monster or something that you can just walk

(36:44):
right up to and you know, don't,but you can't.
Yeah, they all like, there's alllike you have a number and then
there's like numbers above people's health bars when you
roll on them new places, so. I got a couple of comments in
chat I want to get to here, so let's see.
All of them says you wanted to unlock fast travel so much
sooner than the game unlocked. Yeah, I would like to actually

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unlock fast travel because it didn't seem like fast travel to
me because you have to open the door and it it takes like 10
seconds for an animation to occur.
And then you actually go in there and you're running around
for like 20 seconds for the nextdoor to actually open for you to
quote UN quote fast travel through.
Like this is not fast travel. I.
Mean you're travelling faster toan area than if you had to just

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straight walk it. So.
That's true, although I just, I also don't, I, I, I'm not a big
fan of like when you have to go to a particular location to do
fast travel. Like I think it it kind of had
its charm a long time ago in games like Morrowind where you'd
have to go to like particular locations to go travel.
But Morrowind, there's a ref Holy geez.

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I'm I'm old school man. Let me travel from anywhere.
You can have designated points that I can warp to, but I don't
want to 1st have to walk to a warp point and then travel from
there. Yes.
Yeah, I agree. That's that's old school.
Also we got Geodad saying I didn't like the visuals of the

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chest armor. Thoughts on that?
I'm. Kind of, I'm kind of down with
that. Yeah, I think I agree.
I agree on some of them 'cause some of them was just like the
one I was using for Sigrim was the Deadly Mist armor and it's
just like a little strap across your chest.
I'm like how is this protected him?
Let's be honest. Yeah, it, it was, I would have

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liked a lot more, I don't know, flair on some of that stuff.
I think because it was kind of hard to distinguish between
like, you know, there were certain armors that were pretty
cool, but then some of them justlooked like straight up like
medieval, you know, medieval, like Western medieval armors and
stuff. And it's like this is a little
bit kind of weird. I would have liked something a
little bit more like visual consistency there.
And also like some, you know, some more distinction between

(38:57):
like what different armors look like and how they kind of like
how they if if they could make it like correspond to what those
armors were doing right? Like certain armors could like
look more spiky or something if it's like if they're more damage
based or yeah, I don't know. I, I don't have like a lot of in
depth analysis on that, I guess.But I do agree that the chest
armors were a little bit kind oflacking and in visual flair.

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I mean, I, I think they had enough.
They were. They're slightly different, you
know what I mean? Some of them went over one
shoulder, some went over bowls somewhere.
Just like little things. There was enough difference to
like visually let you know that you're wearing different armor
for sure. But I really never like looked
at the armor as a visual thing. I was just like stabbing out.
So I was like, well, this is better than this, so I'm gonna
put this on and I'm gonna put this on 'cause this is better

(39:41):
than this. So even if the sets didn't match
or whatever, it just didn't matter, you know?
Yeah, going back to your question, we based about what
thing I would change. I think I would do away with the
grinding and Keppel Hymen musclehiring.
It's that really dragged on. Just have them do it over and
over and over again just to get more of the material I need,
just to upgrade all the different armors.

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That was the one part where I decided, you know it, screw it,
I'm going to lower the difficulty level so I can get
through this, this two stuff quicker.
See, I'd actually I didn't really mind that so much because
I didn't find this game too grindy at base level.
So like and I like grinding. I'm of the I like like Max
leveling characters. I like getting characters way
stronger than you need to be. So like I like that you didn't

(40:27):
need to grind this game, but theoption was there and you could
if you wanted to and it wasn't like forced.
So it's like I'm going to be OK if I go to these fights, not
like levelled up, but if I powergame and go out there and just
like spend 5 days doing nothing but just grinding in in the
spot, I'll come. I'll be so much stronger and I
know it'll be a more satisfying fight because I won't have to
like worry about too much whether my resurrection stones

(40:50):
are good or blah blah blah. It's like I just know I'll be
OK, you know? So I, I like the idea of like
getting into a fight that you are having a hard time with, but
I also like the idea of not having to grind, but having the
option to grind at the same time.
So I like having it available. Speaking of of grinding, someone
found on YouTube was looking up how to best fight the final
Valkyrie. I'm going to spend like 600

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hours playing this game and I guess the person just repeatedly
reset new game plus to get the that hanging fruit.
Whatever was without the stats, We'll get all that, start a new
game plus, get the fruit, start a new game plus to completely
match every single stat in the game, and then plot the final.

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Valkyrie beat her in like 10 seconds.
Yeah, see, that's not fun. I'm not into that.
That's like makes the game not so fun.
Like I just want to be strong enough that like fights are
still kind of challenging, but like, I'm not overpowered to
where I can three hit characters, right?
Like right? I want to go into the fight with
a pretty, pretty solid chance oflike, yeah, I'm I'm going to win

(41:56):
this, but I'm still going to have to like work for it.
I. Don't want to keep bringing up
Bloodborne, but that's how I feel in Bloodborne fights where
I'm like, I don't need to like get super strong.
I just want to walk around confident that I might not die.
Like that's like, that's the hardest thing in those games is
like getting to a point where you're like, OK, I can
confidently run around and not worry too much about regular bad
guys. And then you find out, no,

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that's not true. Regular bad guys are wildly
strong. Anyways.
Enough. Enough.
We got we got to play this one next because I definitely, yeah,
I could, I could go. I have thoughts about
Bloodborne. But Bloodborne's wild, dude.
It's a say it's anyways, yeah. It's not the not the discussion,
Yeah. Bloodborne is also not the next
game. There's a second there.
Too Bloodborne should not be like any times they Bloodborne

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should be like a side game or something like.
I, I, I don't get to actually put a soul sport in, but if not,
people want to, you know. The time frame, I don't think
that people beat it in the time frame.
Dude. I've been playing it for weeks
and I'm still not like maybe like halfway through it.
Yeah, I want to play when I first.
Started playing it, what's that?No, we have some type of

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Bloodborne dude. Keep going I.
Was going to say I want to get back to something about the
grinding. I thought that the the what I
can't remember it was Neufelheimor Neil Feim whatever that the
missed the missed realm is. I thought that was OK.
The the Moosefelheim I did thinkwent on for too long.
There was too many, like there'sone challenge where you got to
like just survive for like 5 minutes or something and it's
like, jeez, man. Like just it wasn't that hard.

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Like I think the fights like those challenges, I don't think
that they were like super hard and I think that they did drag
on a little bit too long, especially because the rewards
aren't like really that great for it.
Like you can get that, you can get that armor.
I guess you can like start getting materials for the armor
there, but the the mist Realm armor is just it's much, I don't
know, it's more satisfying to kind of grind out those

(43:42):
materials. But yeah, I I didn't think that
the grinding took like too much time.
I spent maybe a couple hours in in the miss realm just kind of
getting materials and I was like, all right, I think I have
enough to go fight the final, the final Valkyrie now, so.
Most. Fights are fun just for like
challenging yourself, you know what I mean?
Like, it's a different challengethan the Valkyries.
It's like, can you, can you likemow down hordes of people as

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opposed to one giant strong boss, you know?
Yeah. Because muscle hunt has like the
normal and hard challenges whichactually weren't hard at all.
The impossible wasn't too bad either.
It's when you get to the final impossible like the suitors
trials were there. 3. Different ones and you got the
three different ones and it's like the first one I think was

(44:23):
that I had was defeat 70 enemiesin a certain amount of time and
it's like I got like 60 something, 60 something, 60
something and then finally got 70 like and then you got to go
back and collect keys again justso you can get the next final
trial. That's where I get like FR3 with
the grinding. I'm not going to lie, I did not

(44:44):
finish Muscle Heim. Yeah, I, I, I didn't do it at
all. I I did it to fight the Valkyrie
and then I bounced. Yeah, I I got to a certain point
was like, I'm not into this anymore.
I'm not having fun. This is bad.
It's like it's not fun like losing to the Valkyries.
It's it's losing to a whole bunch of enemies and you're just
like, oh man, this is making me feel bad at the game.

(45:05):
Like I should be able to handle this?
Yeah, but I'm a completionist and I wanted to get the platinum
trophy, so. Yeah, I was.
I was just looking that up. The Power Picks gives it a
difficulty rating of four out of10 for the Platinum trophy.
What? I felt I.
Felt like there was way. Too much just like fluff in the

(45:28):
platinum. This is kind of how I felt about
about Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth. It's just like there's so much
stuff that's not that fun to do to get the platinum, like
finding all the Ravens and stuffto, you know, killing all the
Ravens and doing all these like finding all these chess.
It's just like I, I, I wish thatmore games would not do that
where they were like getting theplatinum requires you to do

(45:51):
things that will actually like progress your character and not
just like make you put in the time of having like another job,
you know? Yeah.
Oh, I admit, I used the guy for some of that stuff.
Yeah. I mean, you have to, right?
There's no way you could. Did you?
I mean, maybe there is a way, but it would take even, you
know, exponentially longer. But yeah, I'm not a big fan of
that kind of stuff. And it lists 30 to 40 hours if

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you're using their collectible guide.
So I guess the collectible is pretty obnoxious in this game.
Yeah. I put in 74 hours. 70. 4 sounds
about right. Let me open up my twitch or my
steam and see how many hours I got put in the.
I also admit I spent a normally amount of time, normally lengthy

(46:35):
amount of time looking for pictures.
For pictures. Yeah, just find the perfect
screenshot to take to submit thepicture of the week.
Oh yeah. Yeah, I spent too much time.
Man's laughing, but it paid off.I did actually win one week.
So yeah. The other side says 4 to 10 on

(46:55):
their site too. 40 hours. So I don't know, it's Meagle
maybe. Maybe just get good.
Yeah, I have 50 hours on mine and I've 28 of 37 achievements.
So I I didn't go completionist, but I was clocking things off as
I was going so. Yeah, like I feel like for
platinums, like by the time you've gotten to the final boss,

(47:16):
like the final, like a final super boss, you should be like,
you know, pretty 80 to 90% of your total time in the game
should already be there, right? You shouldn't need to spend an
entire extra games worth of timejust like looking for Ravens and
stuff you. Know.
Yeah, I know. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah. Those are the kind of things
where like, I don't know if I'veever like 100% did a game.

(47:38):
I don't know if I have the patience for that dude.
Like I'm like, hey, listen, I did the hardest things you can
do in the game. Like you're saying I destroyed
all the Valkyries. I don't need to go look for
these green freaking Ravens everywhere.
I'm done with that. That doesn't show my skill
level. That just is like, like you're
saying fluff, you know? Yeah, Like, can I get some cool
armor for that? Can I get something that will
like, help me in another part ofthe game?

(47:58):
Then I would be more willing. Like they should be like
incentives to do this stuff beyond just like having that
platinum. On checkpoints, it's like, Oh
yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Sometimes it's not good to be a complete sense.
Yeah. All right.
When to start wrapping up? So I want to get final thoughts
from everyone, you know, just a minute or two from everyone.
Tell me, you know what, What is the absolute best thing you

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know? You could say sell someone who
has not played the game on playing this game?
If if you like third person adventure games with really
tight like fighting mechanics and an amazing engaging story
that you can get for $15 sometimes, like when it's on

(48:45):
sale, it's $1015.00. It's the cheapest, best gaming
experience you can have and theyI think it's probably top three
PlayStation games of all time. Top three PlayStation games of
all time All time all time 100. Percent.
That is, that is a bar, that is the throw down and that is
probably going to show up as a quest in the next couple of
days. Right now you make that happen.

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Like just for like, just for everything encompassing what the
game is, is like. There's not a lot of games that
do what it does as well as it does.
Yeah. There's some games that like try
to be this game and there's games before it that we're sort
of trying to be this game. But this game really just like
took what it is and just cinchedit in in a way that like, again,
I haven't played a game like it.I haven't felt the way I felt

(49:30):
fighting bosses and just even regular characters.
You walk up and it's just like you just don't feel the same in
other games, you know? All right, before we get back to
anyone else's final thoughts, Gina reminds me.
We got to talk about the chaos blades.
You guys got like a minute each 30 seconds talking about the
chaos blades. What?
What did that mean for you? They're.

(49:50):
Awesome. I was.
I was waiting for it the whole time.
Sick and it just also helps you break up how you play the game
so you can go through the entiregame with the axe and then just
like switch up and go blades theentire like play in a different
different style of game with theblades right like.
I mean, the scene of course itself was just spectacular how
they put that all together, justthe the see to him.

(50:12):
Going back to his Hut and. Finding them under his bed.
Yeah, it's yeah. The the the music, the the
lighting and everything was just.
And then of course, his vision of was Athena and everything
that was just fantastic. But then the plays themselves, I
actually like them way more thanthe axe.
I just if it's more with my style of combat, like medium
range, just getting them or not,how to be like right up close

(50:34):
like you will with the axe. I'm not gonna lie, man.
You like I use them both like inbattles.
I'm switching between both of them, using them for different
things. Like I, I, I fully embraced the,
the, the chains of chaos and like used them both in battle.
I was swapping back and forth between them doing sweet compos
because they all each have different special abilities too.
So you can like cool down on special abilities.

(50:56):
So you can RIP over to one, use those abilities, switch back to
the other one, use those abilities, switch back to the
other one, use the like, you cango back and forth.
So like, I never primarily used one or the other.
I used both at the same time andjust like put that into my
arsenal, you know? Oh I do, I had Cindy's armor
with the high runic and cooldownso I'll just bam runic from
yeah. Exactly, Yeah.
Yeah, I, when I, when I got to the blades, I didn't realize how

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much like, so I, I was using theaxe up obviously up until that
point and I thought, oh, the combat's really good, super
fluid, like the way it feels. And then I got the blades and I
was like, Oh my God. Like I, I never went back to the
axe after that. Not because I think the axe
sucks, but just because it was like, man, the blades for me
were just like so much fun. And it's like it was a really
it, it really like amped up the gameplay for me.

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I think the blades are great. Again, you know, you use them in
all situations, but the blades are great for, like, large
groups of enemies. And the axe is good for single
combat. Yeah.
So I think they're just like, situationally good for
whatever's going on, right? Like if there's one guy, the
blades are going to do some gooddamage, but the axe is going to
do more like straight damage to a single person, where blades

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just like are like a good, a good way to like deal with a lot
of enemies around you all. Right, I gotta cut you off here.
Final thoughts here. What's your room Spiegel?
Tell someone who hasn't played the game on playing this game.
I think for me again, it's, it'sthe story, it's the lore, just

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really being able to dive into such a fascinating world.
Just again, like just, I could have spent hours and I did just
padding around the boat just to hear my mere stories.
Like I knew that if I went up toa shore and that would
interrupt. I just kept powering around,

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powering around, making sure that the story was completely
done before I, I got off the, the bowl.
Or when you're doing your, the fast travel, when you're just
talking, I'm making sure I'm notgoing through that door until I
hear that full story. I just again, the story, the the
emotions of it throughout all the different beats and then the

(53:02):
Lord holding in and I can't waitto play right now all.
Right, thanks. Let's go.
I'll. Be I'll be quick.
I think for me, this is like oneof the most polished games that
I've I know I spent some time whining about the platinum, but
like, if you're just going through the game, this game is
like super polished and the mainstory does a really good job at
gearing you up for every point of the game, like to make sure

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that you're that you're equippedto handle every challenge that
the game throws at you, like at the appropriate time.
So it's it's super polished. It's a really interesting kind
of reimagining of the original. Not reimagining, but it's like
an interesting direction, like anew direction to take the
series. Because I think that by the time
that this game came out, the previous games were getting for
me anyways, a little bit stale because they all felt kind of

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like the same hack and slash combat.
And it's like I, I kind of just fell off after three.
But then this game comes out andit's like completely different,
but still true to the original. And so I think that if you do
like the original, you know, this is a, it's this is a game
you just like can't, you can't pass it up.
Yeah, and the way they kind of like bring in the other three to
this game too, is really nice. Like they don't forget about it.

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They're not like they don't ignore it.
They're just like, this is now what Kratos is like, Yeah, he's
been living by himself alone with this lady.
He had to get away from the fromthe gods.
Like, yeah, he yeah. I mean, technically in three he
destroyed he destroyed the realm.
So he. Killed everything.
Yeah, he destroyed everything inGod of War 3 so.

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Hey, when that happens, all right.
Well, that is a great point to end on.
I wanted to give a special thanks to Smeagol White Thunder
Basic for being here to chat with me, Dan for producing in
the background. Everyone participated in Twitch
chat, and I also do want to announce no one managed to guess
it despite my attempts to hint at it.

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I even changed my tagline for you all today on C3.
That was the biggest hint you could have possibly gotten.
I am equipping the Master Chief tagline because we are going to
Halo one after we finish Batman.So you've got about a month and
change. We're going to do some Batman
Arkham Asylum next week. We'll be doing a special one off

(55:12):
week on Vampire Survivors with aspecial.
On. Friday the 13th, because how can
I pass off talking about VampireSurvivors on Friday the 13th?
We'll be back for that discussion.
I'm to actually schedule that and then we'll do some Batman in
about a month. And it's been great to talk to
you all and we'll see you next time.

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Stay tuned to Channel 3. Cool.
Thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks for having us.
And I'm excited to get into Batman because I've never played
any of them before, so. Oh.
Arkansas. This is fantastic.
Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty excited.
All right, Thank you. Is Halo.
Available somewhere other than on Xbox?
Can you just get Halo OH on PC 2OK.

(55:56):
Yeah, PC and Xbox. I, I, I am I, I will do my best
as I can't make a hard and fast rule, but I'm doing my best to
make sure that nothing is lost to a single console without at
least PC option as well. There may be some Switch games
that make us break that rule eventually, but Mario?

(56:16):
Karts. Mario Kart.
All right, Thank you all and we will see you next time.
Good. Night, everybody see you.