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October 21, 2025 21 mins

Welcome to our first Debrief episode, where we reflect and digest what our brilliant guests shared in a prior conversation. 

 

We were blown away by the sheer brilliance and clarity in our last episode with former litigator and political commentator Elie Mystal, author of Bad Laws and Allow Me to Retort. We've read and recommend both books, and especially want Bad Laws to get in the hands of our Democratic lawmakers for whenever (fingers crossed) they get back in power. 

 

But say you don't have time or desire to go back and listen to a full hour of incredible insights. We pulled out some of the key quotes that hit us hard, and we're gonna get into our thoughts on them.

 

What to listen for? 

  • The behind-the-scenes on why and how we ended up talking with a phenomenal legal mind, thanks to books, college reunions, and a bold podcast title
  • What we think about the idea that we need to still teach our kids, outside of what they learn at school 
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