March 8, 2025 • 48 mins
Have you ever wondered what the Bible really says about how everything began? In this eye-opening episode of "What in the Bible?", sisters Jenna and Audrey dive heart-first into Genesis Chapter 1, bringing fresh perspective and honest questions to the creation story.
With no theological training but plenty of curiosity, these sisters unpack Moses' account of creation and discover surprising insights that challenge common assumptions. They explore fascinating details like the Holy Spirit "hovering" over the waters with maternal care, the mysterious waters above and below the firmament, and the puzzling creation of light before the sun. Their conversation brings clarity to complex concepts while maintaining a sense of wonder at God's magnificent design.
The sisters tackle challenging questions with refreshing honesty: What does it mean that humans were created in "our" image? How do we reconcile the biblical timeline with scientific findings? Where did dinosaurs fit in God's creation? Their authentic approach creates space for listeners to bring their own questions without judgment.
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey everyone and welcome to what in the Bible?
We are two sisters readingthrough Genesis to Revelation
for the first time and askingthe question every new believer
is thinking what in the Bible?
I'm one of your hosts, jenna.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And hello everyone.
My name is Audrey and in thisepisode we are tackling Genesis,
chapter 1.
Chapter 1.
Woohoo, yes.
So before we get into the manyquestions that Jen and I both
had in reading this chapter,Hence why it's only one chapter
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this episode.
Exactly, jen and I both havethe same Bible and it's a study
Bible and it gives you a littlebackground about the book.
So we thought it'd be fun toopen with a little introduction
to the book of Genesis andexplore some fun facts about it.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's important to know the backstory on what
you're reading.
It really helps understand thecontent more and the context.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So fun facts about Genesis.
The meaning of Genesis is inthe beginning.
It's the first book of thePentateuch, or torah, which is
the first five books of the oldtestament.
The author is moses.
I didn't know that.
See, I'm learning thingsalready.
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Yeah, you didn't know moses.
Author genesis nope, oh, I didNice.
So it's difficult to place theevents of creation, and you know
, back to like Adam and Eve.
But they think that Genesis 12and beyond occurred during the
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Bronze Age, or 1950 to 1550 BC.
To 1550 BC.
There's a couple of customsthat are described throughout
Genesis 12 and beyond that havealso been found in other tablets
of the second millennium, sospecifically like those found in
Mesopotamia, which is some ofthe oldest found documents and
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evidence for earliestcivilization.
So a lot of those customsdescribed in the Bible have
actually been validated andfound in other documents.
Wow, that's so cool, yeah.
The other thing that'simportant to consider is maybe
when Moses wrote it and why hewrote it.
So it's thought that Moseswrote this after the Exodus,
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when the Israelites werewandering around in the desert
before they entered the PromisedLand, so about 1445 to 1400 BC.
So this would have been severalcenturies after the patriarchs,
which is, you know, likeAbraham Isaac Jacob, then the 12
tribes of Israel.
Another fun fact is that itactually covers the longest
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period in the Bible.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, that makes sense as to why we've decided we
need to really condense ourdiscussions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, moses wrote this because Israelites were
wandering through the desert.
They're actually getting readyto enter into the promised land.
But the promised land wasn'tthis free piece of land that
they were going to be able tojust walk into and suddenly
start living there, like it wasalready occupied by I want to
say it was Canaanites, but we'llhave to fact check that once we
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get to reading.
So the Canaanites, you know,they were known to be false idol
worshipers and they worshipedpagan gods.
So the generation that wasentering into Canaan was not the
same generation that hadwitnessed God's deliverance from
Egypt, so they would not havereally remembered or seen
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firsthand accounts of what Godhad done.
So for them.
It was really important thatMoses wrote down that.
You know that God is thecreator.
He created the universe andeverything in it, and this is
how the nation of Israel wasformed.
It was formed by God, chosen byGod to be his people, and, as
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we'll read in early books ofGenesis, we'll discover why and
why that was important.
Early books of Genesis we'lldiscover why and why that was
important.
So the purpose was to empowerthem with the knowledge of who
Israel was, why God created them, why God set them aside for his
purposes, in order to make surethat they resisted the
temptation to accept paganworship and intermarry with the
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people.
So I think this is somethingthat a lot of times gets
misinterpreted amongst believers, like you're not allowed to
intermarry with other races.
But really it wasn't about therace, it was about their belief,
the belief behind it right,equally, yoked, exactly, exactly
, which is definitely stillimportant today.
God cares about that.
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Throughout Genesis, we're goingto see some themes show up.
So you know, usually each bookin the Bible has some underlying
themes to it.
So I thought it would be funfor us to see if we can pick up
on these themes as we readthrough the book.
So the main underlying theme isthat God forms Israel as a
nation, his chosen people.
Theme is that God forms Israelas a nation, his chosen people,
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who he provides for and protects, despite you know all of their
challenges, all of thetemptations, because these are
the people whom the Messiah willcome through, and that kind of
goes back to the seed war, right, right.
Another theme is God'ssovereignty, and sovereignty is
just like a fancy term, for Godis in control.
You know, we don't have to beworried about things that
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surprise us, because God isnever surprised.
He's, you know, all-knowing,all-powerful, and he is
ultimately in control andanything that does happen he
allows.
So he is not only creator andruler, but he protects His
people.
And then another theme is God'scovenant.
So covenant fancy term forpromise like an agreement
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between God and the people thathe's making that covenant with,
and it's used throughout thegenerations and each of the
early patriarchs lives too.
It's funny to see all thesepatterns happen, right, because
a lot of times they're repeatingthemselves through each
generation.
Another theme is God'sredemption, which I really love.
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I love that Genesis sets upthis plan for God's redemption,
set out early on in the firstfew chapters of Genesis.
But this is quite literally theBible, like God's redemption
plan and how he goes aboutmaking that happen, to the point
of sending Jesus to die for oursins.
That the whole Bible points to.
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That.
The whole Bible is to point toJesus.
No matter if you're reading theOld Testament or the New
Testament, it's all pointing toJesus and what he did on the
cross and that new covenant sogood.
And then another one that Ithink might not be fun, but I
like to hone in on this becauseI feel like it's super
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interesting to pick up on thisthroughout, you know, through
reading, but the threat to God'splan, so the enemy, satan's
continuous attempts to thwartthe coming of the Messiah, like
the Old Testament and up until,like Jesus's birth, that entire
timeline, you can see thatunderlying theme of Satan trying
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to thwart God's plans and allthe wars that Israel's gone
through, and it's all to preventMessiah from coming, even to
the point of Israelitesassimilating with pagan cultures
and practices.
So this brings us back to thepurpose of Moses writing Genesis
to help the Israelites staypure as God's chosen people.
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So that's why I really like thestudy Bible.
I mean, not everybody likesthis specific translation of it,
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but I think, as as long as it'ssomething that you can
understand, I think the one thatour church gives out is an ESV,
I think it is.
Is it an ESV?
I think it is.
Or is it NLT?
No, it's NLT.
Oh okay, I think NLT is theeasiest to understand.
So some translations are likeword for word versus concept for
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concept kind of thing versusconcept for concept kind of
thing.
So I can't remember NLT, butI've heard that that one's a
little bit easier to understandas someone that's reading the.
Bible for the first time, but Ido encourage make sure it's a
study Bible, because that studyBible will give you all of that
extra information and give youlittle notes at the bottom of
the verses like this is what wasgoing on during this time and
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this is what this is thought tobe believed by theologians and
this is what this word means youknow or came from.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
originated from Right .
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So chapter one pretty much covers creation.
So, seaster, how did you feelabout chapter one, or, like,
what questions came up for you?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, I do have a question.
In verse two, literally Okay,bring it on.
Okay.
So I had a very hard timewrapping my brain about the
waters.
For some reason I did too.
I wrote a note in my notessaying I'm having a hard time
right now with all this watermention.
I'm having a hard time rightnow with all this water mention,
okay.
So literally, genesis, chapter 1, verse 2, the Spirit of God was
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hovering over the waters.
How was there water already?
Right?
How was there water already,when it literally says the earth
was formless and void, but yetthe Spirit of God was hovering
over the waters.
Mm-hmm and void, but yet thespirit of god was hovering over
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the waters.
So I was a little bit confusedby that.
And it's funny because Imentioned that to my
nine-year-old and I'm like, isthat just me?
My nine-year-old is verylogical about the way that he
thinks and he was like, yeah, no, I don't get it either, mom,
like it didn't say that you know, the waters were created yet.
So yeah, I kind of was a littlebit confused there.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yes, no, and I think that a lot of people probably
struggle with that, and so thisis where we could really get
into like the nitty gritty of it, because there are some
theories out there that there isa time gap between verse one
and verse two.
So verse one, just likedescribing God creating
literally like heaven and earth,and then there's a rebellion
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Satan falls, gets kicked out ofheaven, falls to earth, and that
whole war, that whole rebellion, is what destroyed the earth.
Now, I say that, but you know,that's a theory, right?
Right, I'm almost wondering,like less so, as like that
chronological order versus, hey,in the beginning God did create
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the heavens and the earth, andI actually really love this,
because science out there willsay, well, we were all created
from the Big Bang Theory.
There's actually some Christianscientists that back that, but
they back it because they aresaying, like, who's to say that
God didn't speak?
And boom, you have your BigBang Theory, exactly Right, yeah
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, I've seen that that's reallycool.
Yeah, so even though in thebeginning God created the
heavens and the earth I thinkthat's a general statement
saying our God createdeverything and everything in it
and then he kind of dives deeperinto detail Now, in the
beginning, when he created theearth, it was formless and void.
And the Holy Spirit was hoveringover the waters.
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I love that term Holy Spiritwas hovering over the waters
because when you look at thatword and how it translates, it's
quite literally like the HolySpirit was like a mother hen
doting on their chicks orsomething like that.
And you know the Holy Spirit isdescribed as having more of
maternal characteristics, but Ilove the way that it's written,
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because it talks about literallythe Holy Spirit was like
hovering over the waters in amotherly way.
So I don't know if that answersyour question, or I mean I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
No, it does, it does.
Yeah, yeah, because I did.
When I was writing my notesabout the questioning below it,
I was like time gap theory, andeven in the study Bible I think
that it talks about that theoryand how it starts, verse two.
Well, at least in our Bible itsays now the earth was formless
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and empty, kind of like itwasn't before.
Now it is Right.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's why it's important, I think, to have
multiple translations, becausethat word now actually is not in
every translation, right?
Well, since we're kind oftalking about verses one and two
, what I was looking over withthat is that word heavens.
So I'm like, okay, did Godcreate like literal heaven, or
is that talking about the skyand the universe, right, right?
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So this is another fun, funlittle fact.
If you don't have a Strong'sConcordance, I highly suggest it
because it's an excellentresource when you're reading the
Bible, because it will actuallytranslate the word into the
original, either Greek or Hebrew.
So the word for heavens isshamayim, which means to be
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lofty, the sky, the higher ether, where the celestial bodies
revolve, air or heavens.
So I mean could be the stars,could be our universe.
I mean it says where thecelestial bodies revolve.
So maybe it is actual heaven.
Wow, that's really interesting.
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There's all these differentwords about like heavens.
And then in verse six it sayslet there be a vault.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh, thank goodness you're bringing that up, because
that was my next question.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, the waters again, right, right, the waters
From waters, right.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And then the vault, which it does say is the sky.
However, it says the vaultsplits the waters.
So it's like okay, clearly,what's underneath the sky is the
oceans, what is the watersabove it?
I know what's the other watersthat were split Right?
Is that heaven?
Is that the universe?
Is that space?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I mean, Well, so, because I think you know water,
it's got to be water, like it'sthe same.
Literal water it should be likewater and water.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Right, right, exactly that's the waters Right.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
So I did.
I looked up vault because I'mlike OK, first of all, what does
vault mean?
So vault in the Hebrewtranslates to firmament, which
whenever you hear firmament itliterally means our atmosphere,
the space between land, and thenlike Like space, space, ok,
right, and a visible arch of thesky.
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And I think this is interestingbecause there's also some flat
earthers out there who will useverses that relate to firmament
to say that the earth isactually flat, but when you look
at the vault's translation here, it says visible arch of the
sky.
How can the earth have an archif it's flat.
But yeah, when you go on todividing the waters below and
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above the vault, in my mind Iwas like, okay, is that how we
have rain and clouds?
Like, okay, god made water tobe in the oceans on the earth
but then created there to be away to have rain in the sky as
well Mm-hmm, there to be a wayto have rain in the sky as well.
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Because I'm thinking also, whatdoes he do after that?
He begins to create land andvegetation, right, right.
So I'm like I'm thinking, okay,so God knew what would be
needed to create to have thingsgrow, and some source of water
would be that, you know, therain to help them grow.
That would make sense.
Yeah, other theories I wasthinking is okay, is it talking
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about the atmosphere?
But I don't think so, becauseit was.
You know, it mentioned vaultprior, which, again, we've
already said is the firmament orthat visible arch of the earth
I think some other believershave also talked about.
If you look at like thechemistry of oxygen and air,
there is like water.
That is part of what makes upour atmosphere also, so it could
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be describing like the factthat we have the perfect amount
of oxygen, like 21 oxygen, forus to be able to even survive
like like the perfect conditionsfor life.
Right, that's cool, yeah, okay.
So another thing that Istruggled with was the whole.
There was evening and there wasmorning the first day, and each
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time it's like there wasevening and there was morning.
But so God said let there belight, and he separated the
light from darkness, but then hehadn't created the sun yet.
Or the moon.
So I'm like you know, and ofcourse I think this is one of
those things where you knowwe're just probably not going to
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really understand the full,awesome power of God.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The full scope, right .
I didn't even catch that.
That went clear over my headbecause I'm like you know what?
You're right, you don't talkabout that till verse 14.
Hmm, so that's interesting.
Yes, sky to separate the dayfrom the night, right.
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But again, maybe that's not inthe literal sense of how we now
perceive one day.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, and I like that too.
The concept of time, right,because?
So there's a lot of scientistsout there that'll be like the
Earth has been here for billionsand billions of years.
So you start to wonder, okay,how long did this really take
God to create the Earth?
Right, because we read it likehow it could have happened.
It's another one of those hardthings to grasp that concept of
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time.
And you know, has the worldreally been here for billions of
years?
And if it has, how long did itreally take God?
Because there's that verse youknow, one day in your courts is
a thousand elsewhere.
So, even though in the Bible itsays it took God seven days,
how does that translate into ourconcept of time?
Right, right, seven days.
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How does that translate intoour concept of time?
Right, right.
So I like in verses 11 through13, when it's describing what
the land produced vegetation,seed bearing plants and trees on
the land that bear fruit withseed in it, according to their
various kinds.
So again, I think that goesback to when I was reading this.
I'm like, okay, and I thinkthat goes back to when I was
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reading this.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'm like okay because I think in my mind he says it
and it happens.
So I'm thinking oof they'repopping up like daisies.
You knew where we were goingwith that.
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Like it just shoots up into the sky and they're like
fully grown yeah already havefruit on them.
And again like who's to saythat didn't happen?
But what if it took time?
You know, and how much time didthat take.
And you know again, what if thewaters that were separated and
like above the vault was therain that caused those?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
to grow.
That would make total sense,yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I also thought it was cool because in verse 11, when
it says let the land producevegetation, so that word is only
described one other time in theBible and it's translated to
bring forth, to sprout or spring, and it's used also in Joel
2.22.
It says are becoming green.
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I haven't read Joel to reallybe able to comment on it much,
but I think it was interestingto see that that wording was
only used one other times.
But there's other versions ofthat.
So for example, in verse 12, italso uses the word produced,
but whereas in 11, that wordproduced is translated as dasha,
in 12, it's translated as yatsa, to causatively bring out in a
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great variety, and it's usedmore than a thousand times
throughout the Bible.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so clearly this word wasspecific to God creating
vegetation.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, Wow, that's really neat.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So in verse 120, god says let the water team with
living creatures and I thoughtthat word team I'm like hmm,
what does that mean?
So I looked it up, of course,and team is to be full of or
swarming with, so then of courseI think of like a whole net
full of fish.
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So literally, god filled thewater with living creatures, and
so we're starting to talk aboutcreatures, right, birds flying
in the sky.
And God created the greatcreatures of the sea and every
living thing with which thewater teems and that moves about
in it, so dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That's what I was going to say, for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm convinced that humans did live in the time
of the dinosaurs and I thinkthat they died in the flood.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, no, I agree.
And I think that they died inthe flood.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And you know what?
There was a really cool thingthat I came across that showed
dinosaur fossils on top of themountain that they believe
Noah's Ark landed on.
That's awesome.
Or reached land at the mountainof what is it?
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It starts with an, a.
I can't remember, but we'lllearn I can't pronounce it,
chapter four, I think yes, I'mskipping ahead, but that there
is evidence, because how elsedid this random fossil end up
all the way at the top of thismountain?
And a dinosaur fossil,nonetheless right, and fish
fossils and all sorts of thingsthat you know anyways.
Again, we're kind of gettingahead, but with you saying that
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you think that they died in theflood, that would make complete
sense as to why there's fossilswhere they are right especially
when you consider god's originalpurpose for creating the earth.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Everything in it was good.
So, like when you read throughchapter one, he's Moses is
describing each you know eachpart that God created, each
stage that he created.
He, at the end of creating it,steps back and looks at it and
he's like he saw that it's good.
Everything God created is good.
God is good.
So God would have created thedinosaurs, but he wouldn't have
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created them with this instinctto eat one another and humans,
because that's not good.
Right, right, right.
So I think it's veryinteresting.
I think we'll kind of touch onthis when we get into the fall
and how that changed things.
But I think in the verybeginning, when God created the
earth, including man and all ofthe living creatures in it, he
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intended for us to all coexistin peace, harmoniously, like no
carnivorous species whatsoever,even with sharp teeth, even the
animals with sharp teeth I'mjust thinking of the land before
time and they're like sharptooth.
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Yeah, all right.
So I think this is in verse 24,where it says let the land
produce living creaturesaccording to their kinds the
livestock, the creatures thatmove along the ground, and the
wild animals, the creatures thatmove along the ground.
So when you look at othertranslations like the KJV, the
King James Version, instead ofspelling out the phrase the ones
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that move along the ground,they literally translate it as
creeping things, oh goodness,that creep on the earth.
I'm like Lord, there's a lot ofcreepy things like insects and
bugs and rodents, and I quiteliterally think this is what
they're talking about.
Yeah, there is, the creepingthings that creep on the earth,
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and it translates to.
I wrote this down, I thought itwas so funny.
Creeping things translates tocharrettes, charrettes, I think
it's pronounced charrettes, andI'm thinking it sounds like rats
.
It does.
And then the way that it's,it's not just like oh okay, you
think like rats, no, it's like aswarm, a mass of minute animals
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, so all the little like massesof them oh, no just like a few,
like all of them, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Oh goodness, yeah.
So then in Genesis 126,.
And then God said let us makemankind in our image, in our
likeness, etc.
Etc.
And again, I don't know if thisis just specific to this
translation of the Bible, butwhen I first started getting
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back into the faith and even tothis day I still kind of
struggle with the whole idea oflike the Trinity, and I'm
assuming that's what it'stalking about.
But before that I read that andwas like I don't understand
what that means.
Like our, what do you mean our?
You know God made us in hisimage.
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Why is it saying our?
So I just wrote that down askind of like a thing to discuss.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yes.
So I love this because I thinkthe majority of believers will
tell you that that term, our inthis verse, does refer to the
Trinity and it supports thatidea of the Trinity.
I think the Trinity isdefinitely something that's very
difficult to grasp, because howcan three people be the same
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person, but especially like whenit describes each one has
distinct, like they are theirown person right.
They are three distinctlydifferent individuals, but they
are all God, but I think that'swhy it's so fun to find examples
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of their presence.
So one of the examples and youguys may have already read this,
but when Jesus gets baptized,right, you have Jesus, the son,
who gets baptized by John, andthen, after he gets baptized,
right, you have Jesus, the son,who gets baptized by John, and
then, after he gets baptized,the Holy Spirit descends on him
in the form of a dove, and thenthere's this voice from heaven,
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that's God.
So you literally have all threein separate forms.
Even you have the Holy Spiritas a dove, you have Jesus as a
human being and god, the fatherfrom heaven, this voice oh, I
just got the chills.
Isn't that awesome?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
yeah, that's good, can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
being there.
No, I'm trying to imagine god'svoice and I just I imagine,
like everything in me vibratinglike this, just like loud, like
deep soul penetrating, boom, youknow?
Yeah, exactly, and this isprobably going to get off the
rails a little bit and I don'tknow enough about it to have an
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actual conversation.
But this might be where we canget into some like intermittent
episodes where we talk aboutsome of the other thoughts out
there as we progress.
So I watched this series calledFaith or Friction Faith or
Friction.
Faith and Friction.
I really enjoyed them.
They talk about a lot of thingsthat cause friction in the
church.
So actually they do have anepisode on flat earth theories
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and stuff like that, but I lovewatching their comments on
prophecy like Daniel.
Prophecy watching theircomments on like prophecy like
Daniel prophecy all of the stuffgoing on over in Europe right
now.
They talk about the seed warlike they get down to the nitty
gritty kind of thing, and sorecently, in the last year,
they've had someone on who hegot his doctorate in theology,
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but part of his doctorate you,doctorate requires a thesis, so
he spent five years researchingthis topic.
Oh, wow.
So I highly recommend it.
Go check them out.
They're on YouTube, they're onPatreon.
I subscribe to it.
It's like I don't know seven oreight bucks a month or
something like that, but veryinteresting and it will blow
your mind.
It will make you want to readthe Bible.
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I mean, aside from all of thisfun stuff.
But he talks about this versebecause he actually doesn't
think that they're actuallyreferencing the Trinity.
So you know, we also refer toGod as the king.
Well, what do kings have, like?
They have a full court and theyhave subjects, people within
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their courts, like dukes andwhoever else is in court.
Duchesses, duchesses, yeah, theparliament.
Clearly, we don't know, sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
We're going off of like princess diaries right now.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Maybe our ignorance is showing a little bit Lack of
know-how in monarchies, but hesays he thinks that God is
actually speaking to.
Like who would God's court bethe?
angels yes, exactly the angelsand the archangels, and if you
Google, there is a hierarchy ofangels and the angels yes, wow,
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archangels.
And if you google, there is ahierarchy of angels and the
angels yes, wow.
And so he says that that verseis that god is actually speaking
to his court, like the otherangels in heaven.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, and I totally did not dothat service.
Like I said, you shoulddefinitely watch that episode
because it was very interestingand he really dives down into
and pulls other verses and it'snot just like, oh, I have this
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theory and here's why.
Like he does, support it andit's mind blowing.
Wow, it's mind blowing,especially when you talk about
the Tower of Babel.
And it gets into all of thatthe war, the rebellion, the
angelic rebellion, and it's not,you know.
You think of lucifer as beinglike this sole person that
rebelled, but he had otherangels go with him, and that's
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why we have demons, and there'sa hierarchy in demon ology too.
Oh my gosh is that crazy?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
that is wild.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
So I'm getting a little bit off topic there, but
no, but it's all relevant tothat verse that we don't know
what our stands for it's reallyimportant to sometimes digest it
word by word, because, eventhough it may have a plural noun
, the verb is often singular,meaning yeah, we're talking
about the Holy Trinity, threepeople, but the verb is singular
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, so again it points to one God.
Yeah, so yeah.
In verse 27, god createsmankind in his own image.
So my question was you know, Iput in quotations them.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yes, me too.
Them underline underlinequestion mark yeah exactly who's
he talking about them?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
uh, is it, you know?
Is it mankind in general, likehe created multiple, or did he
really just start with adam andeve and therefore causes that
question that I think every newbeliever struggles with like?
So we all descended from adamand eve, so we're all just a
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bunch of like second, third andfourth and hundredth cousins?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Right, right, right.
I think about that car ridethat I, my husband and our
family, took from Idaho toArizona and we were stuck in
traffic for like two hours and Itend to be a rambler in the car
and we talk about the craziestthings.
But this was one of the thingsthat came up somehow and my
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husband was, like does that makesense to you?
Like I don't even understandthat.
Can you answer that?
I'm like I cannot.
So we started looking into itin the car while we were stopped
and then I was like, oh well,that's yeah, that's duh.
Like then the flood happenedand then like Noah, you know,
and like his three sons andtheir wives.
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She said with confidence Right,because I'm like, oh well, yeah,
that's right, my husband's likethat still has the same issue.
So then we all came from them,right from the one family, which
again we'll talk about as weget there.
But yeah, the them in thisreally stood out to me too, is
it them as he created a bunch.
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And then we talk about Adam,specifically because of Jesus's
lineage and coming through thatline because of the fall.
I mean, what do you?
I kind of took that from youand then ran.
So what do you think?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
about it.
Well, it's hard.
I don't know that this issomething that we're really ever
going to get an answer in inthis lifetime.
I think it's just one of thosethings that God works in
mysterious ways.
The earth was created by powersthat we're not going to
understand until we get toheaven, and there are scriptures
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that say God has revealedunderstanding, but he's also
hidden things from us for areason.
And this is where it gets hard,because for me, I feel like
this is where doubt can creep in, right, and the enemy will
absolutely take that and runwith it.
That's where I think it'sreally important, if you're
struggling with something tounderstand, definitely pray on
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it, and I think for me it's likeokay, if we all did come from
Adam and Eve.
This is where the incest partcomes in, right.
Right, because then you have tothink about what would have had
to happen if you were the onlytwo people on earth for
generations to be.
You know to be had, but then,at the same token, we're
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thinking about this in terms ofour modern brains, right, and
how things are today, right,mm-hmm.
In this same verse, god goes onto say that he blessed them.
In verse 28, he said Godblessed them and said to them be
fruitful and increase in number, fill the earth and subdue it.
So he intended for them toreproduce, to fill the earth
with people from the two of themand gave them to rule over the
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earth.
So it was God's plan for humansto come from Adam and Eve.
Now, I mean you could go so farto say like maybe he
genetically created them so thatit would be okay and maybe
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during that time it wasn'tthought of, you know, in the
same ways that we clearly thinkabout it now in a fallen world,
mm-hmm.
And then not to say that theBible condones incest, because
you will find in later chapters,not much later on from creation
, where it clearly says thatincest is not okay with God.
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So I think that's just one ofthose topics that's going to be
really hard to understand really.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, no, I agree, it's going to be really hard to
understand, really, yeah, no, Iagree, all right.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So these next couple of verses was probably my
biggest aha moment in thischapter.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'm interested to hear it because I wrote nothing
down.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Nothing after 28?
.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Nope.
I jumped right over to chaptertwo after that.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I am ready, blow my mind.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yes, get ready for your mind to be blown.
So in verse 29, then God said Igive you every seed bearing
plant on the face of the wholeearth and every tree that has
fruit with seed in it, they willbe yours for food.
And to all the beasts of theearth and all the birds in the
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sky and all the creatures thatmove along the ground,
everything that has the breathof life in it, I give every
green plant for food, and it wasso.
God intended for us to only eatplants and fruits.
Nowhere in that verse does hesay here's these animals for you
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to kill and eat.
He literally says I have givenyou the plants of the earth and
the fruit that it bears for foodfor you and for the animals.
Mic drop, really.
That's how you read it.
How do you read it?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Well, I guess I never really hyper-focused on the
whole, I give every green plantfor food.
I think I was reading how allthe beasts of the earth and all
the birds of the sky, all thecreatures that move along the
ground, everything that has abreath of life in it.
So I'm like, why would that bein there as well?
Or is that like in addition to?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
So I think.
So split it up.
So verse 29,.
God said I give you every seedbearing plant on the face of the
whole earth and every tree thathas fruit with seed in it.
Period.
They will be yours for food.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's very clear.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yes, yes, and to all, to all the beasts.
So he's giving something to thebeast, he's assigning something
to the animals of the earth,and all the birds in the sky and
all the creatures that movealong the ground, everything
that has the breath of life init.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I give every green plant for food, and this is why
this is your book smart gene,showing when I'm like.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well, wait a minute, it just said yeah but watch,
we're going to look up a newtranslation and be like not
wrong, god did give us cattle tobe eaten.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Oh, that is crazy, because when I read it again,
I'm not like the most solidreader of the Bible.
Because when I read this, I'mnot like the most solid reader
of the bible, because when Iread this, I'm like, aha, okay,
yeah, see, there's proof that wecan totally do everything, that
we can eat the beasts and allthe things it says right here.
But then when you just brokethat down, that was a aha, blow
my mind moment, because itdoesn't say that he's talking to
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man right, Because in verse 27,he created mankind and then he
blessed them and told them tomultiply, and he's telling them
this is what you can eat.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
This is what I've created for you to eat.
Also, you're going to be therulers over basically everything
on earth, and this is what Ihave provided for them to eat,
like instructions for ruling theearth, which is what man was
created to do be the ruler ofthis earth.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So that kind of fits into the whole that we were all
created in harmony with oneanother, right To where even we
were not meant to eat, right thecreatures.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, wow, like God did not create death.
God is the author of life, godis life, god breathes life into
us.
So why would he create animalsfor human beings to kill and to
consume?
Right, crazy, right, that iscrazy.
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I don't know why, but when Iread that I was like whoa.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
So then that all changes right After the fall,
clearly.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, so when we get into the fall, we'll talk about
what you know sin, sin enteringinto the world and how that
changed the relationship, notjust between man and God, but
between man and everything inthe earth including animals, and
then animals turning on animals, right, animals turning on
people.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yep Ooh, I'm excited.
Now I have this whole differentway of thinking about that.
I like my meat.
We are a meat-eating family.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I like my meat.
We are a meat-eating family.
Well, and then I think you knowand again, I haven't read the
books enough to know them, but Ithink later on, during Moses'
time, god did lay out specificrules for what meat the
Israelites could eat and whatthey couldn't eat what was
considered unclean.
So this clearly changed.
But in the beginning God fullyintended for us to live
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harmoniously with everything hecreated, including the animals.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Wow, that's really cool.
Yeah, see, I feel like you andI picked up on the same things,
but you picked up on more.
Well, like what I picked up on,you also picked up on, but then
you also grasped more topics,different things.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I think I've also.
I've probably I mean I don'tknow how many times you've read
it.
I think this is probably thesecond time I read it through.
However, I've watched a lot ofvideo content like a lot of
Faith and Friction.
They have a couple of differentepisodes that I think, touches
on this, and so I've had someoutside help in pointing me
through different rabbit holesand kind of digging down.
But I will say that the wholeplant for food thing, like that,
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was Holy Spirit.
That really was like all right,you ready for this nugget of
knowledge?
Here you go.
Which again is so fun because Imean I say this is my second
time reading it through, but Iprobably read chapter one
probably 10 times.
Right, just chapter one.
But that was the first timethat that section was like.
(41:36):
I found where I wrote downabout the spirit, because I was
trying to explain this earlier.
So verse two, where it says thespirit of God was hovering over
the waters.
So that word, the Spirithovering, in quotations implies
brooding in the sense of amother bird nurturing life.
(42:00):
Wow, I just love that.
I just love that.
You know, not that it's thisGod the Father, holy Spirit, the
Mother in the sense that wethink of it, but God is each
attribute, all of his attributesis fulfilled.
God the Father, you know, theHoly Spirit, bringing that
nurturing, kind of maternal.
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And then Jesus the Son, butJesus, you know, fulfills each
attribute in himself and I meanthere's so much more that we're
going to get into with that, butI just love that.
In my mind I get this image ofthis just void earth with
nothing, just absence, like inevery sense of the word, and the
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Holy Spirit hovering, brooding,like nurturing life to come
forth over this earth, you know.
it just really kind of helps youstart to get a glimpse of who
God really is and how he lovescreation, his creation.
Yeah.
And how he broods over us Rightyeah, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Kind of in the same sense that when we don't have
God, we are kind of void,exactly, or devoid of life and
love and purpose.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, all the good things that God is.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Living in the darkness Almost like living in
that formless Right, void, yeah,yeah, yeah, like black holes,
so we let him in.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Exactly yeah, so did you pick out a verse that you
wanted to try and memorize that?
You wanted to try and memorizeI already failed in my homework.
I feel like this one's kind ofhard because it's like it's a
lot of description, right, whichis fun because I think we're
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getting the nitty gritty, thedetails of how God created the
earth.
But it's kind of like how doyou bring that to practical use
in everyday life, right,although I'm sure you could.
Any good pastor out there canprobably pull tons of stuff from
this Cough cough.
You should be a vegetarianCough cough.
I think I'm going to skip allthe stuff in the middle, okay,
(44:28):
and I'm either going to go withyeah, I think I'm going to go
either with when God Created man, so either 27, or maybe 28, or
maybe just one and two.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
I was going to say one, but I'mlike, is that like taking the
easy way out?
Yes, we all know that already.
Yeah, we all know that onealready.
No, I like 27.
Yeah, 27 is good.
Yeah, okay, so Genesis 127.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Okay, I'm going to do .
I think I'll do 28.
It looks kind of long.
Well, cool, or maybe I'llchange my mind.
Okay, I'm either going to do 1and 2 or 28, but we'll see.
We'll see when we come back.
Yeah for sure, all right.
So I think next time we'regoing to read Genesis, chapter 2
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, which will be fun.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Oh, not quite to fall yet.
Are we just going to stick in 2?
Speaker 3 (45:22):
I think so.
I think we should take it onechapter at a time until we get
past Noah.
I think Okay, I think yeahthere's a lot to unpack.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
There is there really is.
Yeah, for sure, yeah, awesome,well, yeah.
So if you guys want to readalong with us next episode,
we'll be discussing Genesis,chapter 2, and going over what
we got out of it.
Our questions.
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Hey everyone and welcome to what in the Bible?
We are two sisters readingthrough Genesis to Revelation
for the first time and askingthe question every new believer
is thinking what in the Bible?
I'm one of your hosts, jenna.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And hello everyone.
My name is Audrey and in thisepisode we are tackling Genesis,
chapter 1.
Chapter 1.
Woohoo, yes.
So before we get into the manyquestions that Jen and I both
had in reading this chapter,Hence why it's only one chapter
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this episode.
Exactly, jen and I both havethe same Bible and it's a study
Bible and it gives you a littlebackground about the book.
So we thought it'd be fun toopen with a little introduction
to the book of Genesis andexplore some fun facts about it.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's important to know the backstory on what
you're reading.
It really helps understand thecontent more and the context.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
So fun facts about Genesis.
The meaning of Genesis is inthe beginning.
It's the first book of thePentateuch, or torah, which is
the first five books of the oldtestament.
The author is moses.
I didn't know that.
See, I'm learning thingsalready.
(01:35):
Yeah, you didn't know moses.
Author genesis nope, oh, I didNice.
So it's difficult to place theevents of creation, and you know
, back to like Adam and Eve.
But they think that Genesis 12and beyond occurred during the
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Bronze Age, or 1950 to 1550 BC.
To 1550 BC.
There's a couple of customsthat are described throughout
Genesis 12 and beyond that havealso been found in other tablets
of the second millennium, sospecifically like those found in
Mesopotamia, which is some ofthe oldest found documents and
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evidence for earliestcivilization.
So a lot of those customsdescribed in the Bible have
actually been validated andfound in other documents.
Wow, that's so cool, yeah.
The other thing that'simportant to consider is maybe
when Moses wrote it and why hewrote it.
So it's thought that Moseswrote this after the Exodus,
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when the Israelites werewandering around in the desert
before they entered the PromisedLand, so about 1445 to 1400 BC.
So this would have been severalcenturies after the patriarchs,
which is, you know, likeAbraham Isaac Jacob, then the 12
tribes of Israel.
Another fun fact is that itactually covers the longest
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period in the Bible.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Well, that makes sense as to why we've decided we
need to really condense ourdiscussions, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, moses wrote this because Israelites were
wandering through the desert.
They're actually getting readyto enter into the promised land.
But the promised land wasn'tthis free piece of land that
they were going to be able tojust walk into and suddenly
start living there, like it wasalready occupied by I want to
say it was Canaanites, but we'llhave to fact check that once we
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get to reading.
So the Canaanites, you know,they were known to be false idol
worshipers and they worshipedpagan gods.
So the generation that wasentering into Canaan was not the
same generation that hadwitnessed God's deliverance from
Egypt, so they would not havereally remembered or seen
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firsthand accounts of what Godhad done.
So for them.
It was really important thatMoses wrote down that.
You know that God is thecreator.
He created the universe andeverything in it, and this is
how the nation of Israel wasformed.
It was formed by God, chosen byGod to be his people, and, as
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we'll read in early books ofGenesis, we'll discover why and
why that was important.
Early books of Genesis we'lldiscover why and why that was
important.
So the purpose was to empowerthem with the knowledge of who
Israel was, why God created them, why God set them aside for his
purposes, in order to make surethat they resisted the
temptation to accept paganworship and intermarry with the
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people.
So I think this is somethingthat a lot of times gets
misinterpreted amongst believers, like you're not allowed to
intermarry with other races.
But really it wasn't about therace, it was about their belief,
the belief behind it right,equally, yoked, exactly, exactly
, which is definitely stillimportant today.
God cares about that.
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Throughout Genesis, we're goingto see some themes show up.
So you know, usually each bookin the Bible has some underlying
themes to it.
So I thought it would be funfor us to see if we can pick up
on these themes as we readthrough the book.
So the main underlying theme isthat God forms Israel as a
nation, his chosen people.
Theme is that God forms Israelas a nation, his chosen people,
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who he provides for and protects, despite you know all of their
challenges, all of thetemptations, because these are
the people whom the Messiah willcome through, and that kind of
goes back to the seed war, right, right.
Another theme is God'ssovereignty, and sovereignty is
just like a fancy term, for Godis in control.
You know, we don't have to beworried about things that
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surprise us, because God isnever surprised.
He's, you know, all-knowing,all-powerful, and he is
ultimately in control andanything that does happen he
allows.
So he is not only creator andruler, but he protects His
people.
And then another theme is God'scovenant.
So covenant fancy term forpromise like an agreement
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between God and the people thathe's making that covenant with,
and it's used throughout thegenerations and each of the
early patriarchs lives too.
It's funny to see all thesepatterns happen, right, because
a lot of times they're repeatingthemselves through each
generation.
Another theme is God'sredemption, which I really love.
(06:33):
I love that Genesis sets upthis plan for God's redemption,
set out early on in the firstfew chapters of Genesis.
But this is quite literally theBible, like God's redemption
plan and how he goes aboutmaking that happen, to the point
of sending Jesus to die for oursins.
That the whole Bible points to.
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That.
The whole Bible is to point toJesus.
No matter if you're reading theOld Testament or the New
Testament, it's all pointing toJesus and what he did on the
cross and that new covenant sogood.
And then another one that Ithink might not be fun, but I
like to hone in on this becauseI feel like it's super
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interesting to pick up on thisthroughout, you know, through
reading, but the threat to God'splan, so the enemy, satan's
continuous attempts to thwartthe coming of the Messiah, like
the Old Testament and up until,like Jesus's birth, that entire
timeline, you can see thatunderlying theme of Satan trying
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to thwart God's plans and allthe wars that Israel's gone
through, and it's all to preventMessiah from coming, even to
the point of Israelitesassimilating with pagan cultures
and practices.
So this brings us back to thepurpose of Moses writing Genesis
to help the Israelites staypure as God's chosen people.
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So that's why I really like thestudy Bible.
I mean, not everybody likesthis specific translation of it,
(08:22):
but I think, as as long as it'ssomething that you can
understand, I think the one thatour church gives out is an ESV,
I think it is.
Is it an ESV?
I think it is.
Or is it NLT?
No, it's NLT.
Oh okay, I think NLT is theeasiest to understand.
So some translations are likeword for word versus concept for
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concept kind of thing versusconcept for concept kind of
thing.
So I can't remember NLT, butI've heard that that one's a
little bit easier to understandas someone that's reading the.
Bible for the first time, but Ido encourage make sure it's a
study Bible, because that studyBible will give you all of that
extra information and give youlittle notes at the bottom of
the verses like this is what wasgoing on during this time and
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this is what this is thought tobe believed by theologians and
this is what this word means youknow or came from.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
originated from Right .
Speaker 3 (09:14):
So chapter one pretty much covers creation.
So, seaster, how did you feelabout chapter one, or, like,
what questions came up for you?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I mean, I do have a question.
In verse two, literally Okay,bring it on.
Okay.
So I had a very hard timewrapping my brain about the
waters.
For some reason I did too.
I wrote a note in my notessaying I'm having a hard time
right now with all this watermention.
I'm having a hard time rightnow with all this water mention,
okay.
So literally, genesis, chapter 1, verse 2, the Spirit of God was
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hovering over the waters.
How was there water already?
Right?
How was there water already,when it literally says the earth
was formless and void, but yetthe Spirit of God was hovering
over the waters.
Mm-hmm and void, but yet thespirit of god was hovering over
(10:10):
the waters.
So I was a little bit confusedby that.
And it's funny because Imentioned that to my
nine-year-old and I'm like, isthat just me?
My nine-year-old is verylogical about the way that he
thinks and he was like, yeah, no, I don't get it either, mom,
like it didn't say that you know, the waters were created yet.
So yeah, I kind of was a littlebit confused there.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yes, no, and I think that a lot of people probably
struggle with that, and so thisis where we could really get
into like the nitty gritty of it, because there are some
theories out there that there isa time gap between verse one
and verse two.
So verse one, just likedescribing God creating
literally like heaven and earth,and then there's a rebellion
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Satan falls, gets kicked out ofheaven, falls to earth, and that
whole war, that whole rebellion, is what destroyed the earth.
Now, I say that, but you know,that's a theory, right?
Right, I'm almost wondering,like less so, as like that
chronological order versus, hey,in the beginning God did create
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the heavens and the earth, andI actually really love this,
because science out there willsay, well, we were all created
from the Big Bang Theory.
There's actually some Christianscientists that back that, but
they back it because they aresaying, like, who's to say that
God didn't speak?
And boom, you have your BigBang Theory, exactly Right, yeah
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, I've seen that that's reallycool.
Yeah, so even though in thebeginning God created the
heavens and the earth I thinkthat's a general statement
saying our God createdeverything and everything in it
and then he kind of dives deeperinto detail Now, in the
beginning, when he created theearth, it was formless and void.
And the Holy Spirit was hoveringover the waters.
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I love that term Holy Spiritwas hovering over the waters
because when you look at thatword and how it translates, it's
quite literally like the HolySpirit was like a mother hen
doting on their chicks orsomething like that.
And you know the Holy Spirit isdescribed as having more of
maternal characteristics, but Ilove the way that it's written,
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because it talks about literallythe Holy Spirit was like
hovering over the waters in amotherly way.
So I don't know if that answersyour question, or I mean I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
No, it does, it does.
Yeah, yeah, because I did.
When I was writing my notesabout the questioning below it,
I was like time gap theory, andeven in the study Bible I think
that it talks about that theoryand how it starts, verse two.
Well, at least in our Bible itsays now the earth was formless
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and empty, kind of like itwasn't before.
Now it is Right.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's why it's important, I think, to have
multiple translations, becausethat word now actually is not in
every translation, right?
Well, since we're kind oftalking about verses one and two
, what I was looking over withthat is that word heavens.
So I'm like, okay, did Godcreate like literal heaven, or
is that talking about the skyand the universe, right, right?
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So this is another fun, funlittle fact.
If you don't have a Strong'sConcordance, I highly suggest it
because it's an excellentresource when you're reading the
Bible, because it will actuallytranslate the word into the
original, either Greek or Hebrew.
So the word for heavens isshamayim, which means to be
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lofty, the sky, the higher ether, where the celestial bodies
revolve, air or heavens.
So I mean could be the stars,could be our universe.
I mean it says where thecelestial bodies revolve.
So maybe it is actual heaven.
Wow, that's really interesting.
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There's all these differentwords about like heavens.
And then in verse six it sayslet there be a vault.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh, thank goodness you're bringing that up, because
that was my next question.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, the waters again, right, right, the waters
From waters, right.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
And then the vault, which it does say is the sky.
However, it says the vaultsplits the waters.
So it's like okay, clearly,what's underneath the sky is the
oceans, what is the watersabove it?
I know what's the other watersthat were split Right?
Is that heaven?
Is that the universe?
Is that space?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I mean, Well, so, because I think you know water,
it's got to be water, like it'sthe same.
Literal water it should be likewater and water.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Right, right, exactly that's the waters Right.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
So I did.
I looked up vault because I'mlike OK, first of all, what does
vault mean?
So vault in the Hebrewtranslates to firmament, which
whenever you hear firmament itliterally means our atmosphere,
the space between land, and thenlike Like space, space, ok,
right, and a visible arch of thesky.
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And I think this is interestingbecause there's also some flat
earthers out there who will useverses that relate to firmament
to say that the earth isactually flat, but when you look
at the vault's translation here, it says visible arch of the
sky.
How can the earth have an archif it's flat.
But yeah, when you go on todividing the waters below and
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above the vault, in my mind Iwas like, okay, is that how we
have rain and clouds?
Like, okay, god made water tobe in the oceans on the earth
but then created there to be away to have rain in the sky as
well Mm-hmm, there to be a wayto have rain in the sky as well.
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Because I'm thinking also, whatdoes he do after that?
He begins to create land andvegetation, right, right.
So I'm like I'm thinking, okay,so God knew what would be
needed to create to have thingsgrow, and some source of water
would be that, you know, therain to help them grow.
That would make sense.
Yeah, other theories I wasthinking is okay, is it talking
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about the atmosphere?
But I don't think so, becauseit was.
You know, it mentioned vaultprior, which, again, we've
already said is the firmament orthat visible arch of the earth
I think some other believershave also talked about.
If you look at like thechemistry of oxygen and air,
there is like water.
That is part of what makes upour atmosphere also, so it could
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be describing like the factthat we have the perfect amount
of oxygen, like 21 oxygen, forus to be able to even survive
like like the perfect conditionsfor life.
Right, that's cool, yeah, okay.
So another thing that Istruggled with was the whole.
There was evening and there wasmorning the first day, and each
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time it's like there wasevening and there was morning.
But so God said let there belight, and he separated the
light from darkness, but then hehadn't created the sun yet.
Or the moon.
So I'm like you know, and ofcourse I think this is one of
those things where you knowwe're just probably not going to
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really understand the full,awesome power of God.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
The full scope, right .
I didn't even catch that.
That went clear over my headbecause I'm like you know what?
You're right, you don't talkabout that till verse 14.
Hmm, so that's interesting.
Yes, sky to separate the dayfrom the night, right.
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But again, maybe that's not inthe literal sense of how we now
perceive one day.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, and I like that too.
The concept of time, right,because?
So there's a lot of scientistsout there that'll be like the
Earth has been here for billionsand billions of years.
So you start to wonder, okay,how long did this really take
God to create the Earth?
Right, because we read it likehow it could have happened.
It's another one of those hardthings to grasp that concept of
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time.
And you know, has the worldreally been here for billions of
years?
And if it has, how long did itreally take God?
Because there's that verse youknow, one day in your courts is
a thousand elsewhere.
So, even though in the Bible itsays it took God seven days,
how does that translate into ourconcept of time?
Right, right, seven days.
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How does that translate intoour concept of time?
Right, right.
So I like in verses 11 through13, when it's describing what
the land produced vegetation,seed bearing plants and trees on
the land that bear fruit withseed in it, according to their
various kinds.
So again, I think that goesback to when I was reading this.
I'm like, okay, and I thinkthat goes back to when I was
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reading this.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I'm like okay because I think in my mind he says it
and it happens.
So I'm thinking oof they'repopping up like daisies.
You knew where we were goingwith that.
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Like it just shoots up into the sky and they're like
fully grown yeah already havefruit on them.
And again like who's to saythat didn't happen?
But what if it took time?
You know, and how much time didthat take.
And you know again, what if thewaters that were separated and
like above the vault was therain that caused those?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
to grow.
That would make total sense,yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
I also thought it was cool because in verse 11, when
it says let the land producevegetation, so that word is only
described one other time in theBible and it's translated to
bring forth, to sprout or spring, and it's used also in Joel
2.22.
It says are becoming green.
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I haven't read Joel to reallybe able to comment on it much,
but I think it was interestingto see that that wording was
only used one other times.
But there's other versions ofthat.
So for example, in verse 12, italso uses the word produced,
but whereas in 11, that wordproduced is translated as dasha,
in 12, it's translated as yatsa, to causatively bring out in a
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great variety, and it's usedmore than a thousand times
throughout the Bible.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so clearly this word wasspecific to God creating
vegetation.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, Wow, that's really neat.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So in verse 120, god says let the water team with
living creatures and I thoughtthat word team I'm like hmm,
what does that mean?
So I looked it up, of course,and team is to be full of or
swarming with, so then of courseI think of like a whole net
full of fish.
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So literally, god filled thewater with living creatures, and
so we're starting to talk aboutcreatures, right, birds flying
in the sky.
And God created the greatcreatures of the sea and every
living thing with which thewater teems and that moves about
in it, so dinosaurs.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
That's what I was going to say, for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yeah, I'm convinced that humans did live in the time
of the dinosaurs and I thinkthat they died in the flood.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, no, I agree.
And I think that they died inthe flood.
Yeah, no, I agree.
And you know what?
There was a really cool thingthat I came across that showed
dinosaur fossils on top of themountain that they believe
Noah's Ark landed on.
That's awesome.
Or reached land at the mountainof what is it?
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It starts with an, a.
I can't remember, but we'lllearn I can't pronounce it,
chapter four, I think yes, I'mskipping ahead, but that there
is evidence, because how elsedid this random fossil end up
all the way at the top of thismountain?
And a dinosaur fossil,nonetheless right, and fish
fossils and all sorts of thingsthat you know anyways.
Again, we're kind of gettingahead, but with you saying that
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you think that they died in theflood, that would make complete
sense as to why there's fossilswhere they are right especially
when you consider god's originalpurpose for creating the earth.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Everything in it was good.
So, like when you read throughchapter one, he's Moses is
describing each you know eachpart that God created, each
stage that he created.
He, at the end of creating it,steps back and looks at it and
he's like he saw that it's good.
Everything God created is good.
God is good.
So God would have created thedinosaurs, but he wouldn't have
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created them with this instinctto eat one another and humans,
because that's not good.
Right, right, right.
So I think it's veryinteresting.
I think we'll kind of touch onthis when we get into the fall
and how that changed things.
But I think in the verybeginning, when God created the
earth, including man and all ofthe living creatures in it, he
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intended for us to all coexistin peace, harmoniously, like no
carnivorous species whatsoever,even with sharp teeth, even the
animals with sharp teeth I'mjust thinking of the land before
time and they're like sharptooth.
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Yeah, all right.
So I think this is in verse 24,where it says let the land
produce living creaturesaccording to their kinds the
livestock, the creatures thatmove along the ground, and the
wild animals, the creatures thatmove along the ground.
So when you look at othertranslations like the KJV, the
King James Version, instead ofspelling out the phrase the ones
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that move along the ground,they literally translate it as
creeping things, oh goodness,that creep on the earth.
I'm like Lord, there's a lot ofcreepy things like insects and
bugs and rodents, and I quiteliterally think this is what
they're talking about.
Yeah, there is, the creepingthings that creep on the earth,
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and it translates to.
I wrote this down, I thought itwas so funny.
Creeping things translates tocharrettes, charrettes, I think
it's pronounced charrettes, andI'm thinking it sounds like rats
.
It does.
And then the way that it's,it's not just like oh okay, you
think like rats, no, it's like aswarm, a mass of minute animals
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, so all the little like massesof them oh, no just like a few,
like all of them, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Oh goodness, yeah.
So then in Genesis 126,.
And then God said let us makemankind in our image, in our
likeness, etc.
Etc.
And again, I don't know if thisis just specific to this
translation of the Bible, butwhen I first started getting
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back into the faith and even tothis day I still kind of
struggle with the whole idea oflike the Trinity, and I'm
assuming that's what it'stalking about.
But before that I read that andwas like I don't understand
what that means.
Like our, what do you mean our?
You know God made us in hisimage.
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Why is it saying our?
So I just wrote that down askind of like a thing to discuss.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yes.
So I love this because I thinkthe majority of believers will
tell you that that term, our inthis verse, does refer to the
Trinity and it supports thatidea of the Trinity.
I think the Trinity isdefinitely something that's very
difficult to grasp, because howcan three people be the same
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person, but especially like whenit describes each one has
distinct, like they are theirown person right.
They are three distinctlydifferent individuals, but they
are all God, but I think that'swhy it's so fun to find examples
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of their presence.
So one of the examples and youguys may have already read this,
but when Jesus gets baptized,right, you have Jesus, the son,
who gets baptized by John, andthen, after he gets baptized,
right, you have Jesus, the son,who gets baptized by John, and
then, after he gets baptized,the Holy Spirit descends on him
in the form of a dove, and thenthere's this voice from heaven,
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that's God.
So you literally have all threein separate forms.
Even you have the Holy Spiritas a dove, you have Jesus as a
human being and god, the fatherfrom heaven, this voice oh, I
just got the chills.
Isn't that awesome?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
yeah, that's good, can you imagine?
Speaker 3 (27:08):
being there.
No, I'm trying to imagine god'svoice and I just I imagine,
like everything in me vibratinglike this, just like loud, like
deep soul penetrating, boom, youknow?
Yeah, exactly, and this isprobably going to get off the
rails a little bit and I don'tknow enough about it to have an
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actual conversation.
But this might be where we canget into some like intermittent
episodes where we talk aboutsome of the other thoughts out
there as we progress.
So I watched this series calledFaith or Friction Faith or
Friction.
Faith and Friction.
I really enjoyed them.
They talk about a lot of thingsthat cause friction in the
church.
So actually they do have anepisode on flat earth theories
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and stuff like that, but I lovewatching their comments on
prophecy like Daniel.
Prophecy watching theircomments on like prophecy like
Daniel prophecy all of the stuffgoing on over in Europe right
now.
They talk about the seed warlike they get down to the nitty
gritty kind of thing, and sorecently, in the last year,
they've had someone on who hegot his doctorate in theology,
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but part of his doctorate you,doctorate requires a thesis, so
he spent five years researchingthis topic.
Oh, wow.
So I highly recommend it.
Go check them out.
They're on YouTube, they're onPatreon.
I subscribe to it.
It's like I don't know seven oreight bucks a month or
something like that, but veryinteresting and it will blow
your mind.
It will make you want to readthe Bible.
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I mean, aside from all of thisfun stuff.
But he talks about this versebecause he actually doesn't
think that they're actuallyreferencing the Trinity.
So you know, we also refer toGod as the king.
Well, what do kings have, like?
They have a full court and theyhave subjects, people within
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their courts, like dukes andwhoever else is in court.
Duchesses, duchesses, yeah, theparliament.
Clearly, we don't know, sorry.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
We're going off of like princess diaries right now.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Maybe our ignorance is showing a little bit Lack of
know-how in monarchies, but hesays he thinks that God is
actually speaking to.
Like who would God's court bethe?
angels yes, exactly the angelsand the archangels, and if you
Google, there is a hierarchy ofangels and the angels yes, wow,
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archangels.
And if you google, there is ahierarchy of angels and the
angels yes, wow.
And so he says that that verseis that god is actually speaking
to his court, like the otherangels in heaven.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, and I totally did not dothat service.
Like I said, you shoulddefinitely watch that episode
because it was very interestingand he really dives down into
and pulls other verses and it'snot just like, oh, I have this
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theory and here's why.
Like he does, support it andit's mind blowing.
Wow, it's mind blowing,especially when you talk about
the Tower of Babel.
And it gets into all of thatthe war, the rebellion, the
angelic rebellion, and it's not,you know.
You think of lucifer as beinglike this sole person that
rebelled, but he had otherangels go with him, and that's
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why we have demons, and there'sa hierarchy in demon ology too.
Oh my gosh is that crazy?
Speaker 2 (30:35):
that is wild.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
So I'm getting a little bit off topic there, but
no, but it's all relevant tothat verse that we don't know
what our stands for it's reallyimportant to sometimes digest it
word by word, because, eventhough it may have a plural noun
, the verb is often singular,meaning yeah, we're talking
about the Holy Trinity, threepeople, but the verb is singular
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, so again it points to one God.
Yeah, so yeah.
In verse 27, god createsmankind in his own image.
So my question was you know, Iput in quotations them.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yes, me too.
Them underline underlinequestion mark yeah exactly who's
he talking about them?
Speaker 3 (31:19):
uh, is it, you know?
Is it mankind in general, likehe created multiple, or did he
really just start with adam andeve and therefore causes that
question that I think every newbeliever struggles with like?
So we all descended from adamand eve, so we're all just a
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bunch of like second, third andfourth and hundredth cousins?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Right, right, right.
I think about that car ridethat I, my husband and our
family, took from Idaho toArizona and we were stuck in
traffic for like two hours and Itend to be a rambler in the car
and we talk about the craziestthings.
But this was one of the thingsthat came up somehow and my
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husband was, like does that makesense to you?
Like I don't even understandthat.
Can you answer that?
I'm like I cannot.
So we started looking into itin the car while we were stopped
and then I was like, oh well,that's yeah, that's duh.
Like then the flood happenedand then like Noah, you know,
and like his three sons andtheir wives.
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She said with confidence Right,because I'm like, oh well, yeah,
that's right, my husband's likethat still has the same issue.
So then we all came from them,right from the one family, which
again we'll talk about as weget there.
But yeah, the them in thisreally stood out to me too, is
it them as he created a bunch.
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And then we talk about Adam,specifically because of Jesus's
lineage and coming through thatline because of the fall.
I mean, what do you?
I kind of took that from youand then ran.
So what do you think?
Speaker 3 (33:07):
about it.
Well, it's hard.
I don't know that this issomething that we're really ever
going to get an answer in inthis lifetime.
I think it's just one of thosethings that God works in
mysterious ways.
The earth was created by powersthat we're not going to
understand until we get toheaven, and there are scriptures
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that say God has revealedunderstanding, but he's also
hidden things from us for areason.
And this is where it gets hard,because for me, I feel like
this is where doubt can creep in, right, and the enemy will
absolutely take that and runwith it.
That's where I think it'sreally important, if you're
struggling with something tounderstand, definitely pray on
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it, and I think for me it's likeokay, if we all did come from
Adam and Eve.
This is where the incest partcomes in, right.
Right, because then you have tothink about what would have had
to happen if you were the onlytwo people on earth for
generations to be.
You know to be had, but then,at the same token, we're
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thinking about this in terms ofour modern brains, right, and
how things are today, right,mm-hmm.
In this same verse, god goes onto say that he blessed them.
In verse 28, he said Godblessed them and said to them be
fruitful and increase in number, fill the earth and subdue it.
So he intended for them toreproduce, to fill the earth
with people from the two of themand gave them to rule over the
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earth.
So it was God's plan for humansto come from Adam and Eve.
Now, I mean you could go so farto say like maybe he
genetically created them so thatit would be okay and maybe
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during that time it wasn'tthought of, you know, in the
same ways that we clearly thinkabout it now in a fallen world,
mm-hmm.
And then not to say that theBible condones incest, because
you will find in later chapters,not much later on from creation
, where it clearly says thatincest is not okay with God.
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So I think that's just one ofthose topics that's going to be
really hard to understand really.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, no, I agree, it's going to be really hard to
understand, really, yeah, no, Iagree, all right.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So these next couple of verses was probably my
biggest aha moment in thischapter.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I'm interested to hear it because I wrote nothing
down.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Nothing after 28?
.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Nope.
I jumped right over to chaptertwo after that.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I am ready, blow my mind.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yes, get ready for your mind to be blown.
So in verse 29, then God said Igive you every seed bearing
plant on the face of the wholeearth and every tree that has
fruit with seed in it, they willbe yours for food.
And to all the beasts of theearth and all the birds in the
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sky and all the creatures thatmove along the ground,
everything that has the breathof life in it, I give every
green plant for food, and it wasso.
God intended for us to only eatplants and fruits.
Nowhere in that verse does hesay here's these animals for you
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to kill and eat.
He literally says I have givenyou the plants of the earth and
the fruit that it bears for foodfor you and for the animals.
Mic drop, really.
That's how you read it.
How do you read it?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Well, I guess I never really hyper-focused on the
whole, I give every green plantfor food.
I think I was reading how allthe beasts of the earth and all
the birds of the sky, all thecreatures that move along the
ground, everything that has abreath of life in it.
So I'm like, why would that bein there as well?
Or is that like in addition to?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
So I think.
So split it up.
So verse 29,.
God said I give you every seedbearing plant on the face of the
whole earth and every tree thathas fruit with seed in it.
Period.
They will be yours for food.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's very clear.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Yes, yes, and to all, to all the beasts.
So he's giving something to thebeast, he's assigning something
to the animals of the earth,and all the birds in the sky and
all the creatures that movealong the ground, everything
that has the breath of life init.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I give every green plant for food, and this is why
this is your book smart gene,showing when I'm like.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Well, wait a minute, it just said yeah but watch,
we're going to look up a newtranslation and be like not
wrong, god did give us cattle tobe eaten.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Oh, that is crazy, because when I read it again,
I'm not like the most solidreader of the Bible.
Because when I read this, I'mnot like the most solid reader
of the bible, because when Iread this, I'm like, aha, okay,
yeah, see, there's proof that wecan totally do everything, that
we can eat the beasts and allthe things it says right here.
But then when you just brokethat down, that was a aha, blow
my mind moment, because itdoesn't say that he's talking to
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man right, Because in verse 27,he created mankind and then he
blessed them and told them tomultiply, and he's telling them
this is what you can eat.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
This is what I've created for you to eat.
Also, you're going to be therulers over basically everything
on earth, and this is what Ihave provided for them to eat,
like instructions for ruling theearth, which is what man was
created to do be the ruler ofthis earth.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
So that kind of fits into the whole that we were all
created in harmony with oneanother, right To where even we
were not meant to eat, right thecreatures.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, wow, like God did not create death.
God is the author of life, godis life, god breathes life into
us.
So why would he create animalsfor human beings to kill and to
consume?
Right, crazy, right, that iscrazy.
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I don't know why, but when Iread that I was like whoa.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
So then that all changes right After the fall,
clearly.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, so when we get into the fall, we'll talk about
what you know sin, sin enteringinto the world and how that
changed the relationship, notjust between man and God, but
between man and everything inthe earth including animals, and
then animals turning on animals, right, animals turning on
people.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yep Ooh, I'm excited.
Now I have this whole differentway of thinking about that.
I like my meat.
We are a meat-eating family.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I like my meat.
We are a meat-eating family.
Well, and then I think you knowand again, I haven't read the
books enough to know them, but Ithink later on, during Moses'
time, god did lay out specificrules for what meat the
Israelites could eat and whatthey couldn't eat what was
considered unclean.
So this clearly changed.
But in the beginning God fullyintended for us to live
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harmoniously with everything hecreated, including the animals.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Wow, that's really cool.
Yeah, see, I feel like you andI picked up on the same things,
but you picked up on more.
Well, like what I picked up on,you also picked up on, but then
you also grasped more topics,different things.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I think I've also.
I've probably I mean I don'tknow how many times you've read
it.
I think this is probably thesecond time I read it through.
However, I've watched a lot ofvideo content like a lot of
Faith and Friction.
They have a couple of differentepisodes that I think, touches
on this, and so I've had someoutside help in pointing me
through different rabbit holesand kind of digging down.
But I will say that the wholeplant for food thing, like that,
(41:15):
was Holy Spirit.
That really was like all right,you ready for this nugget of
knowledge?
Here you go.
Which again is so fun because Imean I say this is my second
time reading it through, but Iprobably read chapter one
probably 10 times.
Right, just chapter one.
But that was the first timethat that section was like.
(41:36):
I found where I wrote downabout the spirit, because I was
trying to explain this earlier.
So verse two, where it says thespirit of God was hovering over
the waters.
So that word, the Spirithovering, in quotations implies
brooding in the sense of amother bird nurturing life.
(42:00):
Wow, I just love that.
I just love that.
You know, not that it's thisGod the Father, holy Spirit, the
Mother in the sense that wethink of it, but God is each
attribute, all of his attributesis fulfilled.
God the Father, you know, theHoly Spirit, bringing that
nurturing, kind of maternal.
(42:22):
And then Jesus the Son, butJesus, you know, fulfills each
attribute in himself and I meanthere's so much more that we're
going to get into with that, butI just love that.
In my mind I get this image ofthis just void earth with
nothing, just absence, like inevery sense of the word, and the
(42:50):
Holy Spirit hovering, brooding,like nurturing life to come
forth over this earth, you know.
it just really kind of helps youstart to get a glimpse of who
God really is and how he lovescreation, his creation.
Yeah.
And how he broods over us Rightyeah, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Kind of in the same sense that when we don't have
God, we are kind of void,exactly, or devoid of life and
love and purpose.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, all the good things that God is.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Living in the darkness Almost like living in
that formless Right, void, yeah,yeah, yeah, like black holes,
so we let him in.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Exactly yeah, so did you pick out a verse that you
wanted to try and memorize that?
You wanted to try and memorizeI already failed in my homework.
I feel like this one's kind ofhard because it's like it's a
lot of description, right, whichis fun because I think we're
(43:59):
getting the nitty gritty, thedetails of how God created the
earth.
But it's kind of like how doyou bring that to practical use
in everyday life, right,although I'm sure you could.
Any good pastor out there canprobably pull tons of stuff from
this Cough cough.
You should be a vegetarianCough cough.
I think I'm going to skip allthe stuff in the middle, okay,
(44:28):
and I'm either going to go withyeah, I think I'm going to go
either with when God Created man, so either 27, or maybe 28, or
maybe just one and two.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
I was going to say one, but I'mlike, is that like taking the
easy way out?
Yes, we all know that already.
Yeah, we all know that onealready.
No, I like 27.
Yeah, 27 is good.
Yeah, okay, so Genesis 127.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Okay, I'm going to do .
I think I'll do 28.
It looks kind of long.
Well, cool, or maybe I'llchange my mind.
Okay, I'm either going to do 1and 2 or 28, but we'll see.
We'll see when we come back.
Yeah for sure, all right.
So I think next time we'regoing to read Genesis, chapter 2
(45:15):
, which will be fun.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Oh, not quite to fall yet.
Are we just going to stick in 2?
Speaker 3 (45:22):
I think so.
I think we should take it onechapter at a time until we get
past Noah.
I think Okay, I think yeahthere's a lot to unpack.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
There is there really is.
Yeah, for sure, yeah, awesome,well, yeah.
So if you guys want to readalong with us next episode,
we'll be discussing Genesis,chapter 2, and going over what
we got out of it.
Our questions.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yeah, so if you have any comments about this episode,
or if you know there were anyparts that were particularly
hard for you to understand, orthings that you struggled with,
or other questions that wedidn't talk about, please leave
them in the comments.
We'd love to connect with youguys, and you can also find
again all of our links to all ofour socials.
We'd love to connect with you,guys, and you can also find
again all of our links to all ofour socials.
(46:11):
We now have an Instagram page.
Yes, we do, Yay.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
So if you have any answers or interpretations from
what we got out of it, pleaseput that down there as well.
We want to hear your thoughtson it and we want to learn
together.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Absolutely.
Iron sharpens iron, and that'sjust a fancy way of saying.
We learn from each other.
We help each other grow in ourfaith, with the help of God.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
So yeah, all righty.
Well, thank you guys.
So much for tuning in to ourvery first actual Bible reading
episode.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Yeah, so we'll see you for episode two.
Yeah, Until then, keep prayingand stay fed by the word of God.
Bye you guys, Bye everyone, heyeveryone.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Hey everyone, it's Jenna.
With what in the Bible we wantto start by emphasizing we are
by no means experts in Bibletheology or interpretation.
We highly encourage any newbeliever or anyone struggling
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with understanding the Bible toget connected to your local
church and seek guidance fromyour pastor or other believers
that are more mature in thefaith.
Most importantly, we understandthat prayer is an integral part
of reading, learning andunderstanding scripture, and we
encourage you to spend some timewith the Lord in prayer before
diving into God's word.
The Holy Spirit is the bestteacher and counselor to provide
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insight, wisdom and trueunderstanding of Scripture.
Thank you for listening and wehope you join us for our next
episode.
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