Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello everyone and
welcome to what in the Bible?
We are two sisters readingthrough Genesis to Revelation
for the first time and askingthe question that every new
believer is thinking what in theBible?
I'm one of your hosts, audreyand hey everyone, I'm Jenna.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Thank you so much for
tuning in to our very first
episode.
In this episode, we want toprovide an opportunity for you
guys to get to know us, yourhosts, who we are and why we
started this podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yes, awesome.
We thought we would start offby just giving you guys a little
bit of background, ourtestimony of our faith, what God
has done in our lives.
I have been back in the faithfor about two years now.
Growing up, we were, you know,taken to church by our father.
I don't think I remember now asan adult like how much that did
(01:09):
affect me as a kid and eventhough I was forced to go, I did
have a really good relationship, I think, like in retrospect,
with God, with Jesus.
With that being said, itdefinitely was kind of, you know
, church on Sunday and thenliving the rest of our lives
like not really for God the restof the week.
(01:31):
And as a teenager I loved Jesusand I had a relationship with
him, but I also was strugglingwith a lot of self-worth issues.
So, long story short, highschool was pretty hard.
I think at that point I wasalready struggling with my
identity in who I was as aperson.
(01:51):
I mean, what teenager knows whothey are?
But I think for me, likegrowing up in a household where
I had a mom and dad but my dadwas my stepdad and even though I
have no doubt in my heart thathe loves me as his own and you
know, he's always made me feellike his child and we had a
great childhood growing up LikeI'm very grateful and I love him
(02:13):
so much.
But I think there weredefinitely moments where I
didn't really connect with himas a dad and I think that
affected me growing up andaffected my relationship with
God.
I couldn't relate to God, theFather, because I think that
there was always an awarenessthat you know he wasn't my real
(02:37):
dad.
And then I did have, you know,kind of a broken relationship
with my real dad.
He was kind of in and out mywhole life and got to the point
where it's just kind of likerandom calls.
So anyway, all of that to say,after high school I kind of like
prodigal daughter, I wound upmaking a really terrible
decision and that you knowdecision was enough for me to be
(02:58):
like I need to get out of here,and I mean hence the way that
I've coped as an adult forpretty much the next like 15
years.
So I went to Texas, was inTexas for nine years, wasn't
walking with the Lord, wasdrinking heavily, experimented
with drugs Thankfully neverreally got into like a bad drug
habit, thank God.
(03:18):
Thank you, lord.
However, alcohol was definitelystill a vice in my life and
continued to be, you know,pretty much until recently.
So I moved back to Arizona in2016.
I met my daughter's dad in 2018,I want to say, and that
relationship was I mean to saythat I didn't know who I was.
(03:43):
I mean, I was searching forfulfillment in everything but
God.
I had this void in my life andI was trying to fill it with
alcohol.
I was trying to fill it withrelationships with men.
I was trying to get myself-worth from being loved and
(04:04):
wanted by men, and so when mydaughter's dad came along and he
was interested, it's like Imean it sounds pathetic, but I
mean that's just how little Iloved myself.
I mean I really truly hatedmyself.
I'll be real honest, like therewere times that I mean I would
talk down to myself for noreason, like in the mirror, like
(04:27):
out loud, and I think that youknow when you and that's the
enemy right.
I mean he wants to keep youdepressed and and not know who
you are.
And so you know, I'm justwandering aimlessly through the
dark and being in thatrelationship with my daughter's
dad.
You know that went on for a goodtwo years but it was awful on
(04:50):
both sides.
I mean, neither one of us wereperfect, but I definitely, you
know, at the end of all of that,like in retrospect, I think
that I look back and I'm like,how did I put up with so much?
And I'm like, how did I put upwith so much?
And you know, at the time Ithink I had this excuse, like,
oh, it's for my daughter.
Or, you know, I had this hopefor the man that he could be,
(05:12):
and I'm a nurse.
So it's like this part of mewants to heal him and fix him
and like you know all thesethings, when you know obviously
you can't help someone that Awon't take accountability but
also doesn't want to helpthemselves, while also not
realizing how much I was broken,like I think that was the
(05:32):
biggest realization that God hasgiven me since that time is
like looking back and realizinghow broken I truly was to even
allow all of that, to even allowall of that.
So two years ago he was livingwith me but we weren't together.
I was trying to help him outand we had a fight and things
got pretty bad to the pointwhere I just kind of I kind of
(05:57):
just like looked up and thoughtwhat am I doing, like, what am I
?
I'm 35 years old.
Like I need God, for I meantruly like in that moment that
was God being like are you done?
Yet he's like I am here, yes,like I'm here.
(06:19):
You're not here, I am here, butI am here.
So I finally was just like okay, god, like threw my hands in
the air and surrendered and waslike I clearly am not, like my
way's not working.
You know, I was just tired.
I was just tired of constantlytrying to just be in control of
my life, trying to control otherpeople in my life, because you
(06:43):
know, if they, if they just gotfixed or if they just dealt with
their stuff, we would be fine.
Like not even reallyunderstanding again like how
much was like broken with me andhow I was using everything in
the world to try and fill thisvoid.
So I went back to church and Iwent to a church for two weeks
(07:06):
and just you know that firstSunday I just raised my hand and
rededicated my life to Jesusand realized really quickly,
like yes, I wanted and neededGod.
But if you guys have ever, youknow, tried to go to certain
churches and you're like man,yeah, I know I need this, but
there's something about it.
It doesn't quite feel right.
And I went to another churchwhere I had heard of from
(07:31):
several people I was workingwith someone who went there, I
had taken care of someone whosefamily went there, so I checked
it out and it was just one ofthose like the minute you walk
into the door it just kind offeels like home.
You know, like the Holy Spiritwas like, yes, like this is
where you're meant to be.
(07:52):
And I think I went two moretimes and I remember like it
felt right.
But I think a part of me andmaybe this was the enemy, I
think a part of me was stillthinking, well, maybe there's
something still better out there.
Like isn't that crazy?
Like how the enemy is so craftyand he's like, yeah, this is
(08:12):
good, but it could be betterelsewhere.
I can't even imagine if I hadgone somewhere else.
I mean, god works for the goodof His children.
But I remember that second timeI went the pastor he delivered
a sermon on not church shopping.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
God's like, this
one's for you.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, because I was
still kind of like, oh yeah, no,
I really like it here.
But I was still a part of mewas like, oh, but what if?
What, if, what, if?
So, yeah, after that sermon Iwas like, okay, God, I hear you
Like this is where I'm meant tobe.
And so that was two years agoand I've been at the same church
ever since, Got baptized thatsame year on Easter in the lake
(08:54):
when it was freezing cold, butmy daughter was there and my
stepdad was there and that meanta lot to me that he was there
for that.
That was awesome.
And then started gettingplugged to me that he was there
for that.
That was awesome.
And then I started gettingplugged in dipping my toes in
(09:16):
serving.
Actually, it took me a year.
I was going to church for ayear and I started to feel God
saying, okay, you've been goingfor a year now and I had
developed relationships withpeople in the congregation and
close friendships and everything.
But I felt God saying it's time, it's time for you to serve,
it's time for you to give back,it's time for you to continue
growing, Because I think thatyou know, you do kind of get not
(09:37):
stagnant, but you getcomfortable.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Just kind of going
and attending and then going
home and like, yeah, you'rereading your Bible every day and
you know praying and havingrelationship with God, but
there's something about servingthat really opens you up and
helps you grow in the faith thatmuch more.
It's really rewarding.
It feels like you're givingback to a church that's given
you so much and I mean, you knowGod doesn't demand that you
serve like he doesn't.
It's not like you're buyingsalvation, You're buying his
love.
You know.
I think a lot of pastors willsay that all comes secondary to
(10:12):
the love of God and you lovingGod and wanting to serve God
like that need, that desire toserve, comes as a result of
living with Christ.
Yeah, God has done so much inmy life over the last two years.
I mean from healing me frompast hurts and bitterness and
anger and resentment withmultiple people, not just my
(10:35):
daughter's dad, but our parentsand my father.
He passed away in 2013, and Ithink there was a lot of anger
and bitterness towards him thatGod's allowed me to release.
I think a lot of times we juststuff things down.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, absolutely
Don't look at it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So being able to look
at that in a safe space and
just release that.
I remember my pastor gave asermon on tithing.
I really wish that you couldhave seen him and heard him, but
he gave me the Father'sblessing.
I've never connected with apastor like I have with him, or
even maybe another man whowasn't like family, you know,
(11:18):
and it was so like justacceptance, supportive, and he
wears his heart on his sleeve.
I mean very emotional guy, butendearing, like not overly, you
know, like not bawling like ababy up there on the platform,
but like you know, when it wassomething that God was speaking
to his heart, he woulddefinitely make it known like
please hear my heart, know thatI'm not just trying to get money
(11:41):
from you.
This is something God wants tobless you in this way.
And he's like I just not justtrying to get money from you,
this is something God wants tobless you in this way.
And he's like I just I want tochallenge you over the next.
What did he say?
I think it was 90 days.
He's like give 10% of yourearnings for 90 days and see how
God works in your life and I'mnot kidding Like before that I
was maybe tithing, maybe like 10, no, before that I was maybe
(12:05):
tithing, maybe like 10, no, 1%,maybe not even 1%, maybe like
0.25%.
It was not much at all.
So after that I was like okay,all right, and I felt convicted
by it.
I did, I was like you know, andI made every excuse in the book
.
But finally, I think onemorning it was like God was
saying okay, so you're sayingthat you trust me in everything
You're surrendered.
Okay, so you're saying that youtrust me in everything You're
you're surrendered, you'rewholly surrendered to me.
(12:26):
I mean, I had been on my faceat the altar, like doing things
that I didn't want to do, andthen all of a sudden I was like
hard stop on the finances.
God, sorry You're like I'm doingall of this other stuff though,
yeah.
But see, and I and see like X,y, z excuse you know, I have
(12:49):
these bills and I have them onlike I have all this stuff.
And God was just like in thatmoment he was like, okay, so
you're going to surrendereverything to me but your
finances.
And in that moment I was likeokay, this is clearly an idol in
my life.
Like I need to let go and justtrust God.
So I did, literally startedtithing 10% and I'm not kidding
you, within 30 days I had thehighest paycheck that I had ever
had in my career and it waslike four times the amount of
(13:13):
what I've ever had.
And I mean I worked for it.
But the opportunity to work butI didn't have to work extra, it
wasn't like overtime, it wasjust an opportunity to make more
money in the same amount oftime.
And then I got a promotion.
This job just fell into my lapand it came with a raise.
And here I am a year later,just got another raise and
(13:35):
another promotion.
So just a few of the things.
Like God has done so much more.
But if I keep talking about it,we will be here forever and
I've already talked too much, soI am going to hand it over to
you.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh no, I just love it
.
I love hearing your storybecause you, honestly, are kind
of what started me getting backto church and getting back to
God and getting back to my faithand you've really kind of just,
I think, done that foreverybody in our family.
And that's kind of like a thingthat I don't know if we've told
you or that we've really talkedabout a whole lot, but truly,
(14:10):
like I think, that if you hadn'tstarted going to church and
gotten back to your faith andwere really building on this
relationship with God, you know,because I mean, so many great
things came out of it, like yousaid, and so many wounds were
healed and relationships mendedyou and I mended and it really
just jump-started, I think, allof us because we're like wow, oh
(14:33):
, my goodness.
You know, at first we're likedang, like Audrey's really
getting with it, Like that'sawesome, yeah, praise God,
Woo-hoo, Like we're kind ofliving how we're living and just
, you know, good job, Audrey.
And then it's like, well, wait aminute.
Like Audrey's like just on fire, Like what does that feel?
Like, you know, so it reallydid.
It jumpstarted our entirefamily and it's just, it's one
of those things where, like, Godjust works in everybody's life
(14:57):
for his good.
You know, and you don't evenreally know it because you
didn't know your impact on usand what your walk with God
would do to change us.
So I think that's really neat.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Oh, thanks, sis, it
means a lot to hear that.
I mean glory to God, absolutely.
You know, I definitely didn'tknow when I started this journey
what would come of it at all,and I mean, I, selfishly, was
going for me, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Right, right, as we
all do, you know at first.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah, I love that
though, because your testimony
is, I mean, one that I love toshare, and it's never mine,
sorry, who are?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
you sharing it with.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, not everybody
that will listen.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
It really is amazing,
yeah like Audrey said, we grew
up going to church.
She's a little bit older thanme.
I'm just going to throw thatout there.
Just a little bit, just alittle bit.
She is older than me, more wise, yes, definitely more wise.
More wise, more older.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
You know it's funny.
You say that because for themajority of my life I feel like
you're my little big sister.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I think it was like
that for the longest time.
I don't think it's like thatanymore, but for a while it
might have been that way, but Ithink you definitely do fill
that role of like big sister.
Oh, thanks For sure, yay.
Yeah, you're kind of somethingright, yeah, and just the way
that you talk and the way thatyou have conversations like
you're very soft spoken and justvery motherly in a way, you
(16:23):
know, which kind of seems likebig sisterly to me.
Thank you, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So yeah, keep going.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Like go on.
Yeah.
So we grew up in church.
I didn't have quite the sameexperience as you did.
I don't think that I really hada real relationship with God.
I mean, I knew that Jesus lovedme and I knew that I believed
in him and that I loved him.
And it's kind of ironic becausemy best friend growing up was
our pastor's daughter and itkind of always just went right
over my head Like I'd go over totheir house a lot, I'd go to
Sunday school with themsometimes and she would talk to
(16:59):
me about things and talk to meabout God and it just was kind
of like yeah, okay, yeah, that'sgreat, like I know that God
loves me.
But it never went any furtherthan that.
And it's funny because we kindof had a conversation as adults
a year or two ago and I told herthat and she was like, oh my
gosh, she didn't know that Ididn't know things, she didn't
know that I hadn't read theBible.
(17:19):
She's like, oh my gosh, thatshould have been my job as your
best friend, I should have beenon that.
So I didn't really have thatrelationship.
I didn't have the knowledge Iwasn't reading the Bible.
Like Audrey touched on, we wentto church but then it pretty
much stopped there.
So we didn't really know whatliving for God really looked
like and living that in the dayto day.
So very similarly to you,audrey, I had a very rough high
(17:42):
school.
It was a really hard time in mylife.
Again very similar, like noidentity, didn't know who I was.
That led to a plethora ofproblems.
That led to a lot of mistakesand a lot of things that I
carried shame for for a reallylong time.
I don't like who I was then andthat's something that I still,
(18:04):
even to this day.
Sometimes I will start to thinkabout it and overanalyze and let
it creep back in, even thoughI've given it to God over and
over and over again and I thinkour pastor said it, maybe it was
a guest speaker, but they werelike give it to God and don't
take it back, and that'ssomething that I struggle with
it just kind of creeps back in.
(18:24):
I'm like, oh, wait, wait, wait,wait.
I'm supposed to no, take thisback.
Take this back because I startto dwell on it.
But I mean, I made a lot ofmistakes as a teenager.
I made a lot of mistakes as ayoung adult.
I hurt people, I let peoplehurt me.
You know, becoming a young adultstill very lost.
And miraculously I met myhusband during this time of my
(18:46):
life and I really believe thatGod placed him in my life for a
reason.
I was just not who God wantedme to be and I still had a very,
very long way.
From that point on, I've beenwith my husband 10 years now and
and even thinking about who Iwas when we met, it can be
(19:08):
really challenging just becauseI've come so far.
We've come so far as a marriedcouple.
But I really think that it wasall God's plan for me to meet
him and for us to be together,and so we had our oldest son
when we weren't married yet.
Obviously that is not what Godwants, but I firmly believe that
(19:32):
God, if we let him, he uses ourmistakes for his good and our
son is not a mistake.
But we were not doing it God'sway and God was still able to
glorify him through that.
So then we had our second sonkind of kept doing life our way
(19:53):
and nothing really bad, just notliving for God, not inviting
him in Again.
I didn't know what that lookedlike.
I didn't really know how to dothat.
I don't know if it would belike I was naive or I was
ignorant to just believing like,well, if I believe in God,
that's enough.
Again, I was so little for mostof our church days and then I
(20:14):
mean, even as a teenager it kindof just went over my head, but
I didn't realize that it had tobe more than that.
My husband always prayed everynight.
We had my aunt say a prayer forour wedding, you know.
So like to me, that was enough,because that's what we were
raised believing and doing.
(20:34):
We did life our own way.
We moved around a lot.
I think we lived in, oh mygoodness, six houses in four
years across three differentstates and four or five
different cities.
I can't even tell you.
I mean, we lived somewhere forlike four months and we're like,
(20:55):
yeah, not for us Sell the housewe just bought, we're going to
move again, we're going to gohere this time.
So I really think we were justchasing happiness for a long
time, even though we were happytogether, I think we didn't know
how to be happy in general.
You know, we didn't know how tobe happy in life and we did
(21:18):
what everybody else does whenthey're searching for happiness
in the wrong places, and for usthat was moving around a ton and
being like, well, if we justfind our happy place, we're
going to be happy andeverything's going to be great.
So we actually thought that wefound that in Idaho and we were
there for a few years.
Quick little backstory myhusband's a firefighter and he
started his career in Arizonaand as a firefighter you put
(21:39):
into like retirement pool.
Now, if you move out of state,it doesn't go with you.
You can either choose to cashit out or you can leave it and
then come back to it.
You, you can either choose tocash it out or you can leave it
and then come back to it.
So we left that alone, didn'ttouch it.
We get to Idaho after howevermany moves that we did prior to
(21:59):
that, and I was pushing myhusband to cash that money out
because I'm like, hey, likewe're, we're here.
We've been here for a couple ofyears.
We love it here.
This is our happy place, thisis where we're staying.
We need to leave Arizona behind, and he never would.
He was always like I don't know.
I just have this feeling.
I don't want to touch that.
I don't want to touch that.
I know Audrey's giving me thelook right now.
(22:19):
Yeah, we didn't know at thetime.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
We know now clearly
that that was God all along
Working in your husband.
Yes, yes.
So last year, last school, andI don't know, it was just
something heavy on my heart,like just thinking about the
boys and thinking about them allbeing together and growing up
together.
And we had already kind ofstarted talking and, like you
know, you knew I was going tochurch and we were mending our
relationship and and I wasdriving to work and I just I was
(23:09):
bawling in the car, justbawling, crying Cause I was like
this doesn't feel right.
We'd already gone and visited,you know, the summer before and
we saw how much you guys thrivedthere.
I mean you, you had a beautifulhouse, you guys loved the
lifestyle what more could youwant?
Right?
But like, obviously, family notbeing there and especially with
(23:30):
us mending.
So anyway, yeah, I was drivingto work and God, just in that
moment I just felt like I prayedout loud, I was crying, I was
like God I know that they're sohappy and I'll be real honest
with you, like I don't know thatI had faith that he was going
to answer that prayer.
I really didn't, because I wasthinking to myself like there's
no way they're going to leaveIdaho, like they love it there,
(23:52):
they're thriving.
Like why?
Why would they come back toArizona?
So I'm like in my head, I'mthinking this, but I'm still
praying out loud and just almostlike if I could be on my knees
I would have, but I was drivingmy car, so not possible.
But I was in my heart, my heart,posture was definitely on my
knees and just I was like God,if there is a way I know that
(24:12):
they're happy, if it is yourwill that they should come back,
that they could be happy herewith us with family.
Lord, please make a way, justopen doors, just make a way,
lord, please.
And then, as quickly as it came, that thought honestly went
away, even after, like you said,like after you went back.
(24:34):
And then it was just like.
It was like God was like hey, Idid that, don't forget, I did.
Hey, look at me.
Hey did you forget?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yes, lord, I'm sorry,
oh goodness, yeah, oh my gosh.
It's just so crazy because justthat same morning that you had
could have been the same morningwhere I was like telling my
husband, like let it go, leteven a month later.
I'm like we need to go back.
I'm just kidding, I was justkidding a month ago.
(25:20):
Like we need to go back.
And he was like, I agree, andit's just crazy, coming full
circle where that was God allalong.
I mean that was in the wholetime, because if I truly believe
that if we didn't have hisfriar career to come back to in
Arizona, we wouldn't have cameback, well, I guess I can't
(25:41):
really say that, because if Godwants it to happen, it's going
to happen one way or another.
I just can't say when or how oryou know anything like that.
So I think that for the firsttime we were listening to God's
voice, and especially for mepersonally, whenever I would
pray to God, it was just aone-way conversation and it was
(26:02):
so heavily on our hearts that wewere like, okay, it's happening
.
So I mean, we had to sell ourhome, my husband had to get
hired but it can be really hardto get hired with fire and
actually when we started looking, noah was hiring.
And then when we were like,well, we're just going to do it,
we're just going to go, we'regoing to trust that God's
sending us, we don't have a plan, we don't know how, we don't
(26:25):
know why, we're just going to doit.
Boom, job open up.
He applied, he gets it and I'mjust sitting there like in tears
Like I can't believe it.
Lord, you really, oh my goodness, you really pulled through.
Okay, thank you, jesus.
See what you did there, right,yeah, because there's.
(26:45):
I mean, there was just no way.
And then our house, you know,no-transcript.
(27:18):
The truth of the matter is thatwe have had nothing but God's
blessings and have felt His loveand felt His connection and
just known without a doubt thatwe're where he wants us to be
right now, and as much as we cansay that we loved Idaho and
that we didn't choose to be here, god chose for us to be here,
(27:41):
and that's enough for us.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, I love, I just
love it.
I literally like it's not evenmy testimony but I tell it.
Tell it like it's mine, becauseI just love that part where you
know you were kind of fightingwith that uncertainty of not
having a job and knowing thatthis is where you needed to be
and wanted to be and but how?
(28:05):
How?
You know how is this going tohappen and you know the minute
that you let go untrusted iswhen God opened and, you know,
made a way.
And I think that happens so much, so much more than we probably
even realize or want to admit.
Have we passed up where God wasprobably trying to bless us and
(28:29):
we fought it because we werescared or didn't know what it
was going to look like or youknow whatever.
Insert the excuse, but when youtruly let go and you just trust
in God's plan, I mean, mygoodness, things just fall into
place.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, absolutely, I
love that so good.
Yeah, that is so good.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, it's a little
bit about us, just a little bit,
a little bit Only like anhour's worth.
I hope you guys aren't bored.
So you know, I think that for us, even though you know both of
us have had a history in thechurch, you know we both had
varying levels of understandingof you know what a relationship
(29:15):
with God looks like and whatthat entails, and so we both
have not read the Bible.
I mean, we've read, you know,parts of it, parts of it like
certain scriptures, or you knowthe gospels, like I think a lot
of people have probably, youknow, read the gospels, but we
haven't read it from like startto finish.
(29:37):
And there's been a lot of bookslike in between that we haven't
read.
So it was really fun.
You know both of us likereading the Bible, starting this
journey, and like having theseepiphanies and these revelation
from God and like get on thephone and having these four hour
conversations on and on, and onand on.
So you know we thought, man, alot of what we're experiencing
(29:58):
and the questions that we'rehaving that are coming up in our
reading.
We you know there's probably alot of other people that have
the same questions or thoughtsand it's just kind of like what
in the Bible?
I mean like there's some prettyhard things to digest in there
and then there's a lot of hardthings to understand.
I still consider myself apretty green Christian because,
(30:19):
yeah, I had my you know myexperience as a teenager.
But like spending the next 15years as I did in the world and
then coming back as an adult andreally, like you said, being on
fire for God and reading theBible with like new eyes, it's
definitely like I feel like I'mlearning it for the first time.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, if you're green, you'relike medium green.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I'm light green,
you're like medium green.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Because there's
various shades of green.
You know there are, that istrue.
I'm greener than you are, whichI think that we're hoping that
that will be useful.
Audrey is much better atdigesting things.
I think you understand a littlebit more faster, I think, than
I do.
Okay, audrey, what does thismean?
And you're like?
Well, this is how I got out ofit.
(31:08):
I'm just staring at you like adeer in the headlights.
That's what I should havegotten out of this.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Well, you know, mom
will tell you, I've always been
textbook smart, quote unquote,book smart and book smart, and
not very what does she call itStreet smart?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
She says that
straight up too, so.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I'm going to say you
got all the street smart jeans
and I got all the bookworm jeans, book smart jeans.
Yeah, no, I think it's going tobe really good.
You know us doing this together.
So that's this podcast.
This is why we decided to dothis podcast, just really to
kind of have conversation aboutwhat we're reading and yeah.
(31:46):
So before we get into kind ofthe logistics, we thought we
would just kind of do like ashort Q&A to kind of see what
we've struggled with, you know,in reading the Bible and maybe,
if this is something that youknow, other people also struggle
with.
So what would you say is themost difficult thing about
reading and understanding theBible?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, oh, the most
difficult thing.
What I still struggle with isdefinitely staying consistent in
my reading and not becomingdiscouraged, because, again, I
mean, the whole reason thatwe're starting this podcast is
because it can be hard tounderstand.
The wordage is different.
(32:25):
It was written to a differentaudience, obviously for
everybody, but written to a verydifferent audience.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Like 2,000 years ago
Right.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
So I think that that
can be very challenging.
Sometimes I have to readsomething over and over and over
again and I have to just stopand you know, god like reveal
what you want to reveal to me inthis.
Help me understand it, please,let me retain it.
I think that it becomesoverwhelming and it can be
discouraging because you're likehow am I going to get through
this whole book and how am Iactually going to get anything
(32:56):
truly out of it that I canactually remember?
Because sometimes I'll readsomething and be like wow,
that's so good, that's so good,lord, I'll like highlight it,
you know, write it down, take anote all the things, and I
couldn't tell you about it thenext week.
So I think that that'spersonally for me, that's where
I struggle with consistency andnot becoming discouraged when
(33:17):
I'm inevitably not going tounderstand something that I read
.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
I think it's so overwhelminglooking at how big the Bible is,
and you may have a friend inchurch or you know someone
they're like.
Oh yeah, I've read the wholeBible.
I'm like you have.
What is your secret?
Do you remember it?
all Like how many times Some ofthem have read it several times
like Bible in a year, and Ithink that word consistency for
(33:46):
sure, I think that is one that Idefinitely struggle with as
well.
There are days when I flat outdon't want to.
This morning was one of themand in those moments I think I
just have to like surrender toGod and be like Lord.
I'm sorry, I'm going to be real.
He knows.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
All right, he already
knows yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
I'm like Lord, please
help me.
Like I don't, and you know whenit's that, like you said, like
creating a habit.
There's days, like today, whereI don't want to, but I'm
acknowledging it to God and Godtakes it and reveals things that
I didn't realize.
(34:24):
Again, just, it's so awesome tolike you think you've learned
everything about yourself andyou think you've let go of
everything.
And then all of a sudden and itcould be the same verse.
You've read it 10 times, but inthat moment you needed to hear
it and the Holy Spirit revealsto you what you needed to learn
(34:45):
from that verse.
And it's so fun.
The Bible is alive, it is aliving, breathing thing.
Like the word of God will neverdie, you know, and that's in
scripture and it's truth.
But when you start to read itconsistently every day, even on
those days that you don't wantto, it comes to life.
(35:05):
It shows up in your life inways that you never thought
possible.
It's not just sitting down andreading a book I mean, yeah, you
could be a book lover and reada new novel, like every month
but the Bible is one that,literally, the more you read it,
the more you get to know God,and that's the other thing.
Like you think you know Godright, like you go to church and
(35:29):
you're like OK yes, I wish theycould have seen you right now.
My attitude is to be but it'strue, Like I feel like you go to
church and you're hearing allthese sermons about God and
you're reading the word andpeople are telling you things
(35:51):
about God, about who he is, likethe president.
People could tell you like youknow everything about the
president.
You read every article abouthim and you hear what other
people say about him, but untilyou meet him in person, you
don't really know him.
But when you're reading theword every day, you are
literally getting to know ourcreator and he meets you where
(36:16):
you're at.
You know he meets you and heunderstands where you're at.
And I think I'm kind ofsegwaying into this next
question that we were going toask, which was you know, if we
could give our listeners a pieceof advice and reading the Bible
, what would it be?
He meets you where you're atand he understands that you
don't know everything yet and heunderstands your level of
(36:37):
understanding and ourfrustrations.
And I think the biggest thingthat he's revealed to me is that
it's okay to be patient, it'sokay to not know what I don't
know.
It's okay to digest this onechapter at a time, one book at a
time.
It's okay to reread it many,many, many times, and we will.
(37:00):
And when I start to getfrustrated over, like, a
specific passage because I'm notunderstanding or I feel like
I'm never going to understand it, the most helpful thing that I
have done is it's okay, I'mgoing to move on, I'm going to
pray on it.
Lord, please, I'm having a hardtime with this one.
Can you reveal your wisdom tome, Bless me with your insight,
(37:22):
Holy Spirit?
Every time before I read, Ialways invite the Holy Spirit
into my reading time and to justopen my eyes, my ears, my heart
so that I can receive it.
And you know, sometimes theanswer is yes, and we get these
amazing moments with God in ourquiet time.
And sometimes it's not rightnow, and that's okay.
(37:43):
It's okay to move on and notunderstand that, because you
know there will come a timewhere, in God's timing, Because
you know there will come a timewhere, in God's timing, you know
it will come back Right In waysthat you were like didn't see
that one coming, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm thinking about
Lot's wife right now, that one,
I think we talked about that oneI'm like, oh my goodness, I got
to read Genesis again.
I got to read this hard, becausethat is, you know, like
disclaimer, like we have, likewe said, we have read a few
books out of the Bible.
Yeah, genesis is one that wehave done.
We got the first book Right.
(38:19):
Yes, check, check Letters fromPaul, some of them, not all of
them.
Yeah, it's just funny when yousay that, because that does
happen.
I just rolling my eyes like howmany times am I going to read
this?
But this time, when I read it,it hit me different.
That time, and I had read itprobably five or six times, that
(38:39):
exact passage never hit me.
I'm just like shouldn't haveturned around, shouldn't have
looked back.
Hello, you know.
And then, and then, like thefourth or fifth time I read it
oh, I'm, oh me, oh, okay, yeah,giving it to you God.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Yes, thank you, lord,
and thank you that he doesn't
do that all at once.
Right, right, can you imagine?
Nope, oh goodness, Can'timagine.
I think that would probably bethe best advice that I could
give is to you know, just giveyourself grace in those moments
(39:15):
when you're struggling.
Like you said, definitely justkeep doing it, and it's okay if
you don't do it every day, liketry your best to read every day,
because you're prioritizingtime with God and he should be
number one in your life, youknow, and the enemy will try and
come in and shame you intothinking that you're neglecting
other things, but I promise you,if you're prioritizing a
(39:38):
relationship with God,everything else is going to just
be taken care of, like God'sgoing to provide.
Pray, definitely pray.
Yeah praying on it for sure,like we will not understand it
with our own understanding, likewe weren't meant to understand
it by our own, by knowledge, byyou know, thinking and analyzing
(39:59):
.
It's a heart understanding thatonly God can provide.
So, definitely, pray first andjust again, give yourself grace,
yeah, it's okay if you, youknow, miss a day or two.
Just keep trying.
Yeah, keep coming back to it.
Grace, yeah, it's okay if youmiss a day or two.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
Just keep trying.
Yeah, keep coming back to it.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I really don't have
anything to add to that, because
that's what I would say forsure, just because of my answer
with the last question, withreading and understanding it and
just feeling discouraged and,like you said, give yourself
grace and pray on it and make ita habit and you'll get there.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, and come listen
to our podcast, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Exactly.
If you're feeling confused,come and get more confused with
us.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, be confused
with us, because I promise you
we are going to be confused, andthat's okay too, and it's okay
to have questions, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Absolutely.
It's the intent behind havingthe questions.
But if our intent of havingquestions is because we want a
deeper knowledge, we want toseek a deeper understanding of
who God is and what his wordmeans, I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Yeah, so I think our
plan is to just take this you
know, one book, probably evenone chapter, at a time.
Yes, I think there's going tobe times when we can take it you
know, more chapters at a time.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Lamentations Because
yeah, I've only heard about it.
That will be totally new to me.
So that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Well, I'm trying to
think.
What was the book that I gotbold and decided to start
reading?
I think it was what's the oneafter Exodus?
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Deuteronomy,
leviticus, leviticus.
Is that the one after Anotherone I've only heard about?
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah, leviticus.
No, I think it's the one aboutsacrificing.
I think it's Deuteronomy.
See, you guys, we don't evenknow, like the order, that's the
one right after Exodus,whichever one that one is, it's,
(41:53):
it's the third book in thebible.
Okay, the third book, they'reall laid out the same.
It's the third book, um, butyeah, I mean total confusion.
So some of them I think we needto spend a little bit more time
on.
So you know, I think genesiswill probably take more like one
chapter at a time, but I thinkwe're going to put out episodes
every other week, so biweekly,each episode will cover, you
know, a section of reading andour first episode.
(42:15):
So this is kind of more of anintroduction, just so you guys
could get to know us and youknow, hear what we're about,
hear our hearts and what ourintent was for this podcast.
And then we're going to readGenesis, chapter one.
We originally were going to dolike one through four.
Both of us came with like itwas a bit overzealous five pages
of notes.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I'm like Audrey.
We have a problem.
The episode is going to be likethree hours long.
I am down, yeah, so it will beGenesis chapter one.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yes, so I think, you
know, I think Genesis chapter
one merits a good heartydiscussion on, because it's you
know, it kind of lays thefoundation for a lot of things.
So, yeah, genesis chapter one.
But yeah, I proceed like thatover the weeks and just you know
, we'll let you know in advancewhat we're going to cover.
Yeah, if you want to read alongwith us.
Yeah, anything that you'restruggling with.
(43:08):
We figured we'd come and kindof just have a general
discussion about the chapter andanything that came up for us.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Any questions we have
.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Difficult.
What in the Bible moments?
Sure, there's going to be a lotof those.
Oh yes, plenty, plenty to come.
Yeah, we thought it would be funif we picked out our favorite
scripture in that chapter andtried to memorize it, because I
think, you know, when you firststart reading the Bible,
(43:39):
memorization is not at theforefront of your brain.
But the Word of God is a swordand it's meant to be a sword in
every sense of the word, likehelping you to grow.
And Jesus, when he was temptedin the desert, answered the
devil every single time withscripture.
And he was the son of God, likeI mean, he is the word you know
(44:01):
.
He could have, like, said hisown word and it would have been
like new and like in the Bible.
But he, he repeated scripturethat had already been written
during Moses's time, you know,when Moses wrote the Torah.
So he had used scripture fromthat time to rebuke and
basically repel the devil anddeal with temptation.
All that to say, I think itwould be fun to, as we're
(44:24):
reading new chapters, just alsotrying to memorize scriptures
that we can, you know, recall itin times that we need it.
Yeah, absolutely yeah.
So we hope that you guys willjoin us for this exciting
journey.
We'll also put our links to ourFacebook page and Instagram.
(44:45):
I'm just going to say we haveone because it's going to happen
.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
She's looking at me
like did you do that yet?
Yes, yes, we will have anInstagram page as well.
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
So we'll have links
to both of those pages and our
website in the show notes.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
So we'd love to hear
some of your experiences, either
as a new believer, or whatreading the Bible for the first
time has been like for you, orwhat reading the Bible for the
first time has been like for you.
We hope that you guys are justas excited as we are to dive
into God's Word and beginuncovering some of its mysteries
as we learn and grow and prayand ask what in the Bible.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Until next time, keep
praying and stay fed by the
Word of God.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
Bye, bye, you guys.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Hey everyone, it's
Audrey.
From what in the Bible?
We just wanted to leave a quickdisclaimer to emphasize that we
are by no means experts inBible theology or interpretation
.
We highly encourage any newbeliever or anyone struggling
with understanding the Bible toget connected to your local
church and seek guidance fromyour pastor or other believers
that are more mature in thefaith.
Most importantly, we understandthat prayer is an integral part
(46:12):
of reading, learning andunderstanding scripture.
We encourage you to spend sometime with the Lord in prayer
before diving into God's word.
The Holy Spirit is the bestteacher and counselor to provide
insight, wisdom and trueunderstanding of scripture.
Thank you for listening and wehope you join us for our next
(46:33):
episode.