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March 13, 2025 24 mins

From Cold Calls to Corner Office: Glenn Poulos on Building a Sales Empire and Winning Customer Relationships

Guest: Glenn Poulos

  • Co-founder of Gap Wireless.
  • Author of Never Sit in the Lobby: 57 Winning Sales Factors to Grow a Business and Build a Career Selling.
  • Sales expert with 40 years of experience in the field, including starting and selling two successful businesses.

Key Points Covered in the Episode

  1. Glenn’s Journey into Sales

  • Began in 1985 after a government mentor told him he “needed to sell things for a living.”
  • Learned the power of leverage in sales—income is based on performance, not just education.
  • Took the entrepreneurial leap in 1991 after realizing his value and ability to lead his own sales team.

  1. The Entrepreneurial Leap and Building Businesses

  • Co-founded his first business in 1991 after leaving his job.
  • Sold the company after 15 years to a public entity and later started Gap Wireless in 2007.
  • Sold Gap Wireless in 2022 to private equity, marking his second successful exit.

  1. Biggest Early Challenges:

  • Paying Yourself: You need a nest egg, low expenses, and/or an understanding partner during the early days.
  • Failure to Launch: People often delay action due to fear; commitment and execution are critical for success.
  • Overcoming fear of failure propels you forward once you take the first step.

  1. Core Principles from Never Sit in the Lobby

  • “Never Sit in the Lobby”: Be proactive, be prepared, and never waste opportunities when meeting clients.
  • Always have something in your hand (like a product quote) and something in your mind (a clear purpose).
  • Sales is about “staying in front of the customer” and building trust—even when you don’t win the deal.

  1. Adapting to Change in Sales:

  • Technology evolves, but “people buy from people”—face-to-face interactions still close high-value deals.
  • Distinguish between sales (closing deals with clients) and marketing (generating leads). Salespeople need to be in front of customers, not behind desks.

  1. Team Leadership and Hiring Salespeople:

  • Hire slowly, fire quickly: If you’re considering letting someone go, you probably should.
  • Compensation drives behavior: Build plans that align with business goals and motivate sales teams.
  • The best recruit you can make is the sales manager—let them build a team that works for them.

  1. What It Takes to Succeed in Business:

  • Take the first step—most people fail because they never start.
  • Always do “the next right thing” and operate as though every impression is a first impression.
  • Be a pleasure to do business with—even when you lose a deal—so clients come back or refer you to others.

Memorable Quotes from Glenn Poulos

  • “People buy from people. Face-to-face wins the deal most of the time.”
  • “Failure to launch is what holds most people back. Take the leap, and let the fear of failure drive you forward.”
  • “Always have something in your hand and something in your mind when meeting a customer.”
  • “You only get forever to make another impression.”

Actionable Takeaways for Listeners

  1. Entrepreneurs:

  • Have a financial runway to sustain yourself when starting out.
  • Commit fully—don’t let fear stop you...
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