A Fulfilling Yoga Practice, A Master Teacher, and A Cup of Nourishment with Tara Kephart

In this episode I talk with Tara Kephart, a multifaceted yoga instructor and wellness advocate. The discussion explores Becca's personal health challenges, the transformative power of yoga, and practical approaches to health and vitality. Tara shares her unique philosophy on teaching yoga, underlining the significance of creating an inviting atmosphere for both the masculine and feminine experiences. They discuss the importance of ancient wisdom, the art of surrender within yoga, and integrating practical tools like bone broth and infrared saunas into daily wellness routines. This episode is packed with insights on embracing ancient practices for modern health, empowering listeners to take proactive steps in their journey toward better health and fulfillment.

00:00 Welcome to the Podcast: A Journey of Health and Vitality

00:00 Special Guest Episode: The Magic of Yoga with Tara Capehart

02:51 Creating a Unique Yoga Experience: Insights from Tara

32:51 The Power of Intentional Touch in Yoga

38:26 Embracing Self-Care and Wellness

38:44 Journey Through Autoimmune Challenges and Lyme Disease

39:55 Exploring the GAPS Diet and Its Impact

41:15 The Healing Power of Bone Broth

41:43 Deep Dive into Bone Broth Preparation and Benefits

45:44 The Importance of Sourcing and Respecting Food

01:01:08 Exploring the Benefits of Infrared Saunas

01:06:37 Ancient Wisdom for Modern Wellness

01:09:42 Upcoming Yoga Techniques Class Announcement

01:11:59 Reflections and Takeaways

Tara’s bone broth recipe:

Whatever animal you choose to use (chicken, turkey, fish, cow, etc), use everything from the carcass that you can except the guts. Use the bones, skin, feet, collagen-containing joints, eyes, organs, et.  If there is still meat on the bones you can take it off before you put it in the pot, or remove the meat when it is fully cooked. 

Put it in the slow cooker, add clean water to completely cover the carcass. Add 2 TBSP apple cider vinegar, then add desired spices . She suggests some ginger, turmeric (remember to add some red pepper with it so you feel more of the turmeric benefits), salt, pepper, etc. 

Brew for 48 hours. Check that carcass remains covered and add water as needed throughout. 

Let cool and refrigerate, enjoy a glass at a time. 

She referenced Circle C Ranch as a source of the clean meat and carcass that she uses. Find them here:  https://www.facebook.com/people/Circle-C-Ranch-Utah/100093438452367/

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Hello and welcome to the WhatReally Makes a Difference
podcast.
I'm your host, Dr.
Becca Whittaker.
I've been a doctor of naturalhealth care for over 20 years
and a professional speaker onhealth and vitality, but
everything I thought I knewabout health was tested when my
own health hit a landslide and Ibecame a very sick patient.

(00:22):
I've learned that showing up forour own health and vitality is a
step by step journey that wetake for the rest of our lives.
And this podcast is aboutsharing some of the things that
really make a difference on thatjourney with you.
So grab your explorer's hatwhile we get ready to check out
today's topic.
My incredible guest network andI will be sharing some practical

(00:45):
tools, current science andancient wisdom that we all need,
no matter what stage we are atin our health and vitality.
I've already got my hat on andmy hand out, so let's dive in
and we can all start walkingeach other home.

(01:07):
Hello.
I had such a good time recordingthis episode with Tara Capehart.
We actually got to meet at myhouse and hang out in my room
and just stick a microphonebetween us.
I invited her onto the showbecause she has so much good to
say.
I found Tara kept part as aninstructor of one of the best

(01:28):
yoga classes that I have everbeen to.
I just went every time that Icould and tried not to miss it.
There is something differentabout how she teaches.
About how she sets up the flow.
Of the moves and about.
Just the general presence thatshe has, that is so inviting to
both the masculine and feminineexperience in that yoga space.
It's just one of those coolclasses that once you find.

(01:50):
You both want to tell peopleabout, and don't want to tell
anybody else about..
So there will still be a spacefor you when you show up.
She is certified in Hatha, yoga,yin yoga.
She's a certified mini yogainstructor and a myofascial
release practitioner.
And she specializes in creatingintentional flows and doing arm
balances.
She has done work with circustype movements.

(02:12):
She just gets body movement.
When she showed up, she also hadsome bone broth with her and I
took the opportunity to breakdown with you how she creates
that bone broth, because it isdelicious and so nutritious for
you.
And we just talk about a lot ofthings.
Exercise, ancient wisdom.
And basically the daily choicesthat we make to strengthen our

(02:35):
spiritual or physicalconnection.
And why that leads to a morepurposeful and a more fulfilling
life.
So let's get to it.
Here is one of my favoritepeople.
Tara kep heart.
Okay.
We have a treat for you today.
And that is that I am meeting inperson.

(02:56):
With my podcast guests.
So we're sitting across fromeach other in my coziest room,
in my house.
Well, so intimate.
Welcome to our conversation.
I am here with Tara Kephart, whoI know I've already introduced
you to, but Tara.
I am just, I'm so grateful to behere with you.
This is what I'll stop talkingin the third person.

(03:17):
And I'll just talk to you.
Okay.
So the reason I brought you on.
Is you've been on my mind for solong to talk to because there's
just something different aboutyou.
So I enjoy doing yoga, but yogawas sometimes honestly, a
vehicle for self judgment.
Or for self criticism.

(03:38):
Or even frustration, like if theteacher is some like Uber
healthy, young, 21 year old,that's like, hi guys.
We're going to do some relaxingtoday that I'm like, That's
great for some cup of tea, butif I was in a place where I was
really looking for some deepinner connection, And I came to

(03:59):
a yoga class looking for that,then that is not where I was
finding it.
And then I found your class.
So the class I joined was Sundaymorning, yoga.
I walked in, the lights werelow.
You had candles spreadthroughout.
Think they were led candles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So less risk.
But Kendall spread throughout.

(04:20):
And as I watched people come in,you could feel something
different as you walked in.
And the music was preparing youbasically to go internal.
There were still beautifulpeople practicing.
I now have learned to yourfiance was one of the beautiful
men practicing in the front.
very athletic body, but therewere men and there were women

(04:41):
and everyone walked in and itwas like, as you come into that
space, that.
Lists.
The self-judgment thefrustration.
It slides off.
I didn't really care.
What other top, the lady next tome was wearing or where she got
it or how much it was.
What I felt was deeply intomyself and my own space.

(05:02):
And by the end of the Shavasanaor the final pose, I just
thought what.
What has just happened here.
It's sacred.
And that meant I would try toget there as often as I could.
So I want to thank you for whatyou do.
For the people in your class, inthat realm, but mostly just, I
mean, for the world, right?

(05:22):
Any spaces that are smaller likethat or bigger.
But that are smaller like that,where there's a place where
people can come and really.
Drop the bull crap and justsettled in there is extreme
value in that.
So this is how I get to thankyou.
Oh.
Thank you for him on a morepublic stage.
So sweet.
Thank you.

(05:42):
So I'm wondering how you came topractice yoga that way, because
it's different.
There's such permission.
There's.
Like I said men and women, butI've been in a lot of yoga
classes.
They're mostly women most of thetime.
Yeah.
But there is just permission forthe masculine, for the feminine.
There's just a place to be anddrop it.
And I know that does not comewithout a personal story.

(06:05):
So will you tell me how youfound yoga?
And I am just as guided to hearit as well, because I don't know
the story.
Well, great.
Thank you so much for having me.
The feeling is mutual.
Definitely have something.
Unique and beautiful.
About you.
And you, I just knew when youwalked into the room that, you

(06:27):
know, we were meant to be ineach other's space and each
other's energy fields.
And.
That you were there for apurpose and thank you.
And then I was there for apurpose.
So that means a lot to me.
So, thank you.
Very much.
I do love connections.
Because that person, this is oneof my PMO.
I feel like there are nocoincidences that right.

(06:48):
You know where we are.
In the places where we need tobe at.
At that exact time.
The feeling the whatever, ifit's a smell or, you know,
lighting or whatever, sensory,you know, Yep.
Stimulation we can bring into itor lack of.
So thank you.
Yeah.
So I got started.

(07:09):
I mean, it's a long story.
But I will condense it.
But I got.
I got started.
I was always fascinated even asa child with the mystical.
Wrong.
And it's entirety and I don'treally know.
How.
To tap into it.
I grew up.
LDS.

(07:30):
So I did not know that.
Yeah.
So for listeners who are notbased in Utah, that's the church
of Jesus Christ of latter daysaints or Mormons.
That is also how I grew.
So.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
So there was not a whole lot ofexploration nor, invitation to
explore.
Other parts of, you know,whether it's spirituality or

(07:55):
tapping into.
You know, deeper parts of.
Mindfulness or the brain outsideof the construct of religion.
For me, that's my experience.
And I've found that lots oftimes in religion, not just the
one we grew up in, but lots oftimes.
Lots of different ones.
It's like, there's kind of acircling the wagons.

(08:16):
Like we talk this way.
We think about this.
We don't think about this.
We ask questions about this.
We don't ask questions aboutthis.
It's one of the most fascinatingsocial experiment places.
I think I can be.
Yeah.
And in that religion, I thinkit's especially interesting that
a lot of it came from.
Mysticism question asking whatthe roots of it are.

(08:37):
Absolutely.
What is different?
What is out there, but then, youknow, Please get ahold of
things.
We make our rules and intransition that mysticism.
Or, you know, and I mean, I wasa child, so it was kind of lost,
but like I knew, like I felt Iwas deeper connected, like, felt
like I needed to.

(08:57):
You know, Ask questions.
I've always been a question.
Ask her and just really seeking,you know, like more like deeper,
but like at that like energeticlevel, Not just like what is in
textbooks or okay.
You know, it's more like itreally became like more of like
a feeling.
So yes.

(09:18):
Did I feel the spirit often?
Absolutely.
But I had to ask questions andseek outside in deeper.
And so I did this.
Experiment and as a childhood onyoga and meditation.
Yeah, the child has a child.
As a child, I.
I think I was like, maybe in S.

(09:38):
Yeah.
I don't even know if it's sixthgrade.
You're so cautious.
It was that I was so long ago.
At Darren wrote mine while shewas healing.
She had.
A lot of things happen in herlife.
And while she was healing, sheactually became certified to
teach it to kids in the schools.
Like here in Southern Utah.
And I thought, yes.
I've been there that.

(09:59):
There I've I'm certified toteach children.
I thought that that was mydirection and I'm kind of veered
away from that.
But yes.
That's part of my journey aswell, the body has always been
very like interesting to me asfar as like the way that we can
move and the way that we connectfor me, like yoga is just it's

(10:22):
movement.
Yes.
There's philosophy and there'sthere's, you know, ancient
history.
But for me it's always just beenlike, how can I move and how can
I feel as deep as possible.
That movement within, within.
Not what I look like without theoutsider in the mirror, but like
how, like, can I take itinternal?

(10:44):
And so please, can I just add myresounding yes.
So I'm also fascinating withBob.
Fascinating Tara.
Yeah.
No, you are.
Ted.
Oh, speak English here.
Fascinated with how the bodymoves.
But I think for so much of mylife, I pushed and demanded.
And it was like how my bodymoves.

(11:05):
I don't know.
You better.
Right.
Yeah.
And whoa that You can call itmindfulness because it was being
aware.
But what is like the magic ofactually being inside your body,
like paying attention to whatactually feels like?
Yeah.
That's one thing that having theextreme illness gave me is that

(11:27):
now when I move, when I flex,like I can begin to exercise
again.
I was actually just.
Barely being able to move yourclass was one of the first I
went to, I had tried some otheryoga classes.
Not, not very many actualclasses because I had just
worked up to doing like 15minutes in my house.
And then 25 minutes in my house,I think it was at 25 minutes

(11:47):
when I made the big leap to goto your class.
Thinking if this instructorpushes hard, I will just do
half.
And then I will lay on my I'llcome.
The map while everyone elsefigures it out.
But what it has given me.
As I've healed is that Iappreciate being inside here so
much.
Like what a muscle flex reallyfeels like or what it feels like
to climb the stairs when you'reactually flexing your glutes.

(12:09):
And when you're actually likemoving all of your toes and
pushing off.
From your toes.
There's just so much to payattention to so much and so much
that is.
Incredible.
It's.
We really are.
Our bodies are miracles.
Yeah.
And maybe that's one of thefirst secrets of what's
different about your, aboutbeing in a class with you is

(12:29):
that you're invited to go inwith the lights lower and the
candles there.
You weren't judging.
The other people next to you.
That's like comparing mind, justfeeling.
Yeah.
I love that.
And I, I mean so, you know,Going back to how I started.
I really.
So.
I've always been interested as achild.

(12:51):
And movement and the human bodyand mysticism and how we.
Came about really, really, itwas like a deeper question of
like, oh, why.
Why, why am I here?
What is my purpose?
You know, all the things thatmost of us ask ourselves or ask.
Universe or our source or God.

(13:11):
And it really like when I wasable to hone in on.
Like the going inside.
It was really scary.
'cause I wasn't really taughtthat.
I was like, you know, like dowhat you're told.
Be nice.
Follow the rules that arealready established for you.
Trust other Peachtree.
And like yourself, because youcan be deceived.

(13:34):
You put your, put your, youknow, your, your.
All of your.
Bodies elements.
If they're.
You know, when they come up insomebody else's hands to give
you the answers.
And, and you know, I wentthrough my, I went through.,
Diagnosis for auto-immunity.
You know, and but that was, thatwas, you know, later on, that

(13:55):
was about 10 years ago.
In my.
My past my journey.
I got really interested in.
More like working out.
And more of like the fitnesspart, right.
Like, I, I I know you can't seeTara, but she's built.
Beautiful kind of belts.
Feminine sort of strong belts.
So she's not kidding about that.

(14:17):
And S so that was, you know, I,I really focused on fitness and.
And I want it to sculpt my bodyin the best way.
And I, you know, I, I Aye.
Got my certification for apersonal trainer.
And it just, it really didn'tresonate with me.
To be a personal trainer in therealm of what was available at

(14:43):
the time for a blank.
LVA like lived in Las Vegas.
It was like the big fitnessgyms, like LVC and Gold's gym.
And what did you not like aboutthat?
Or what were you looking for?
That was different than that?
I think it was theinteroception.
The inner work, you know, andthere is a lot of inner work in
that, but it just wasn't.

(15:04):
It wasn't it.
Wasn't what I needed.
Well, it wasn't for me.
I guess that question I'm askingis because I also know a lot of
people trying to exercise right.
Training.
And to like, make a differencefor themselves in their lives.
But when they go to the gym, ifit kind of feels like the dog
and pony show, Yeah.
Or does it feel like the rightenvironment then?

(15:24):
What are you supposed to do?
If you don't have a home gym?
Right.
Yeah.
So, I mean, what would you belooking for in an, in an
environment that you yourselfwould have passed on or that you
would advise to look for?
Well, I was very much still inthis like external validated.
State.

(15:45):
And work.
I mean, it was, this is when Iwas like late teens, early
twenties.
So I really hadn't like, like Iknew that there was something
else, like yoga that I needed inmy life or the, you know, the
going internal.
I just hadn't gotten there yet.
So even though I was veryinterested in it and very, you
know, life happens teenageyears, all of that, like, you

(16:08):
know, high school and like justtrying to fit in and be cool and
have a tribe.
And so a lot of that got, youknow, Like I kind of like
skipped over some stuff.
Right.
You know, right.
So then personal training camein.
I, you know, was interested inlike, I was like, well, maybe I

(16:28):
can be a personal trainer, youknow?
And.
And so my CPT and then, youknow, that I really just didn't
didn't feel like that was it forme.
Got it.
So So, and this is just.
Kind of a long and drawn outstory, but but really how I came
to.
Find the inner work.
For myself and the way that Ithink that has influenced my

(16:54):
teaching style to this point.
Is years and years and years ofthat, the battle going back and
forth between the inner and theouter and the inner and outer.
And that's just something that.
You know, We all I believe.
I mean, we are human.
We want.
We want to look good.
We want to feel good.
And we want to be the best.

(17:14):
I don't know.
And so, and so but really what,what got me into back coming
back around in yoga is a.
Solid Bikram yoga practice.
Okay.
Which is a set series of 26postures and two breathing
exercises down twice through thesame ones.
Yeah.
Okay.

(17:35):
It's a 90 minute practice.
It was like almost, I think it'slike the first.
Yoga philosophy and the firstmodality that incorporated heat
and humidity.
Into the room.
And yeah, so this is big girl.
Okay.
And so I got hired there.
I'm going to pause you because Idon't know the specifics.

(17:56):
I know, I've heard lots ofdifferent kinds of so many.
So there are so many.
Kundalini, all those stuffs.
So basically you just find onethat resonates well with you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think that it really, youknow, there's.
Benefit.
And a connection.
That.
Everyone.
I do believe confined.

(18:18):
Somehow.
In each.
And that's why there are so manymodalities, right?
Yeah.
And for me, like the big roomwas the perfect marriage of
strength.
And surrender.
Okay.
So and I was, I, you know, I.
I was solid in a Bikram practicefor oh.

(18:41):
While I don't know how manyyears, but that's really how I
got started was my connection tothat practice.
And for me, it was.
Space and time for me to showup.
It was a set series.
So I really could like leave allof the chaos outside world and
then come into something thatwas new and FA or sorry.

(19:04):
Familiar and I knew I couldcontrol.
With my body.
The actual practice in myexpressions of the poses.
And so that really is how that,that was my foundation.
And then I, so I am going tointerrupt you.
Okay.
To add though, to add.
So that's another key I'm seeingof what may perhaps makes your

(19:27):
class different.
So you do poses that I havenever seen or done before.
But stretch around beautifulplaces like my hip flexors and
under my shoulder blades.
Thank you.
No.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Sweet Tara.
Definitely to not create those.
Thank you for teaching.
But I know I did notice we do alot of the same things that I

(19:51):
thought it was interesting.
Like this is the most diverse.
But also I can.
I'm not surprised when the nextthing happens, but I find that
so relaxing for my brain, whichsurprised me.
Yeah.
Because I usually am like, oh,come on, show me a new thing.
Not in your class and yourclass.
It was comforting.
So, I guess.
That's also points towards.

(20:11):
If you're trying to do a yogapractice at your home or
something like that, just picksome poses.
Maybe do them.
My assistant I'm sure B Crum hasa, has a flow that suggests.
Yeah, but it doesn't mean youhave to know the whole book of
all the yoga poses, right.
I'm saying.
Yeah.
Like having to interview torepeat and then release your
brain from having to come upwith a new creative thing and

(20:33):
focus on being in your body anddoing those poses.
Yeah.
I mean, that's enough.
It.
It's a lot.
It was effective for me becauselike I said, every modality has
its benefits has its magic.
But for me the set series it,it's how I actually formulated
my class that I taught onSundays.

(20:55):
But I took it down way down.
So Vikrum is a very power.
It's it's.
Eh, it's so difficult toexplain, but all of the poses.
Are in sequence created.
To build a practice and to moveinto the next pose.
Okay, so, and you do them twice.

(21:17):
Repeatedly.
One is like Practice round.
The second one is like a F youknow, full out.
Or, you know, you take it and.
If you.
The repair, the repetition, theconsistency.
The discipline.
That was really, really what Ineeded at that time when I was,
you know, in the infancy of mypractice.

(21:38):
And what I'm saying practice byliterally like in the group
setting at a studio.
Yeah.
So that became just.
Really.
It was like it was, it was myhome, like my home away from
home.
You know it was my comfort.
It was my, you know, but, but mycomfort, and then I was able to

(22:01):
be vulnerable in that setting,you know, which also.
Yoga brings a lot ofvulnerability out.
I was able to surrender, likethere were so many things that I
was able to bring into mypractice that I needed for
myself.
And then built on that.
So but you talk aboutvulnerability.

(22:23):
And surrender.
And that's like the opposite.
Of what so many people I knowexperience when they first come
and you're doing the prettypretty look at each other thing,
right.
Yeah, vulnerability andsurrender.
So when you're talking aboutthat, what does yoga.
Bring out in you or how do youexperience vulnerability and
surrender when you are.

(22:44):
Doing the poses and you're inthat home space.
Well in a vulnerable state, we,I mean, it's scary.
It's.
Wading through the shit.
The depths of like our shadow orsolar, our inner child, or
whatever you want to, whatever.
We're jargon or.

(23:04):
Description right.
And that.
A lot of us who are seekingindividuals.
I have to go through and thatvulnerability is what brings the
magic to inside.
And that's, I mean, it is theinner work.
It's not.
The external stuff and yeah,there.
You know, they are, you.

(23:26):
The inner.
There's no way to.
Do the inner work, no matterwhat, whether it's yoga.
You know, meditation somaticpractice or.
Anything hiking even, or likeoutdoor activity.
If there's a vulnerability thatwe have to.

(23:46):
Tap into.
Yeah.
To say and give ourselves thatgift.
Yeah.
The vulnerability, the gifts arein our vulnerability.
In what we can or can't do, or,but it's really like, How can I
be vulnerable?
To be open.
All right.
It's a step to be open.

(24:06):
To then learning to then, youknow, tapping into our.
You know, our nervous system,your parasympathetic nervous
system.
And without the vulnerability.
I really, I mean, it's, that's,that's the key.
That's the magic is thevulnerable.
Spaces, because it is, it'sscary to walk into that yoga

(24:28):
room.
Yeah.
And not know it's the unknown,what you're into, especially for
new students or, you know,people who are feel like
they're.
They live with their heart ontheir sleeves, or, you know
Yeah, it's a space.
It's that vulnerability that,that really is able to.

(24:49):
Ha like open the space for us totap into the magic or the
mystical or.
I love how you talk about that,Tara.
I think a big part of that isalso the curiosity.
Yeah.
So the vulnerability that ittakes to walk into class.
Your mat down, look at everybodyelse.
Right?
Wonder.
Wow.
Yeah.
The fall, what am I going to?
Yeah.
You know, it's the curiosity Ithink to go inside when we're

(25:12):
inside our bodies, it's not likethat's always a pleasant
experience.
There's a lot of reasons.
It's we distress.
A lot of times.
Yeah.
I think in a yoga practice, likeyou practice your body is doing
something like, so your brainhas something to think about,
but there's always a few pointsin a class, in a good class
where I am tuning in more thanjust thinking about where my

(25:36):
foot or my knee needs.
Totally.
And then tuning in.
That's the curiosity and thevulnerability.
That's like, what is here?
Why do I feel like I am justshaking?
It's not muscles.
Why is my nervous system?
Shaking or why am I screaminginside?
Why am I crying inside?
And listening.
Without judgment.
Like it's like anything you cango into place and constantly

(25:58):
judge what's coming up where youcan go in a place.
And I have, I know when I'm inyoga, At that hour.
Is my curiosity time.
Like, it's my, what is actuallyhere.
And sometimes that does just.
Leak out my eyes.
When it's totally.
I think that you know, nomatter, no matter what, I mean,

(26:20):
I have reverence for everysingle modality in practice.
I, I.
You know, it's, I mean, Doing itis.
Key and it's not easy and ittakes a lot of courage.
Regardless of if you're teachinga class, if it's your first
class, if it's your a hundredclass or a thousand class, or if
you're a student and we're all,we've all been on both sides in

(26:44):
some place or time.
In our life, regardless of whatthat space is But I think.
Yes, the curiosity.
Walking into a space where youknow, you.
Talk about it being dark.
And the low light, and it allowsyou to go more inside there,

(27:06):
modalities that are like lightson no music, silence, you know,
and there's a.
I mean, some people absolutelylove that.
That is what they need.
They need to be able to lookthemselves in the eyes.
And they're like, oh, where areyou?
Or, you know, whatever.
They need to be able to seethemselves in the mirror.
They hate mirrors.
Like there's no like right orwrong and there's no one size

(27:28):
fits all.
And that's why there are so manypossibilities out there.
And we.
Have to believe that we areguided.
To go to the places that weneed.
Even if we hate it.
We know that we're not going togo back and we're going to try
something else or whatever,whatever it is.
But but that going deep insidethat like darkness.

(27:49):
That like I even sometimes likewill pull my beanie over my
house.
I know I'm sexually.
My energy, like I'm like forsure.
Protect my crown.
I purchased like beautiful.
Just pull her pink.
Beanie over.
That was wonderful.
So whatever it is that we need.
I feel like we, we will find it.

(28:10):
And and for me, like I foundwhat I needed and then I was.
Able to kind of build everythingthat I really loved and needed
together.
And that's how I formulated.
My Sunday class.
To share their question for you.
The I have never been in a classwith such a near even balance.

(28:33):
Of.
Males and females.
I mean, I've been in your class.
It's a big, it's a big studio,but where there was like, I
mean, your ma is so close to thenext person and the next and the
next.
And it doesn't, those are stillin there.
Cities where there's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's still nearly half men.
So I'm wondering if you evenknow, and maybe you don't know.
I'm wondering what.

(28:54):
How it is that you offerpermission, especially to the
masculine there, because I'veseen people offer permission to
feminine.
But yeah, permission is notoften granted for masculine to
like slow down.
Be held hold themselves,especially in the presence of
other women were beautiful ordistracting or whatever, but

(29:16):
something, there is somethingdifferent.
In the air.
So.
I don't know.
Have you experienced sometimesthat men are.
Not individually, but as a, as ageneralized collective.
Seem to not.
Feel as comfortable or as muchpermission.
And they go in like my myhusband would often come in with

(29:38):
me and he's typically the onlyman in the room.
So when I went and I came back,I was like, Hey, there were like
seven men.
You should come.
Yeah.
If you even know what that is,permission is.
Yeah.
I mean, I am.
I think that.
As a collective it's reallydifficult to I would say, answer
that question as a whole.
All right.
So I'll just bring it back intothe room.

(30:01):
And the space.
And the class that I created andkind of like the Y.
And I, why I feel like there, Ithink this is a much bigger.
Yeah, question.
As far as like just to toss outsomething easy to.
Like, you know, I, I do believethat there is a kind of attack
on a.
There's been an attack onmasculinity.

(30:22):
Yeah.
And and this.
Dates back.
You know, I mean, you can gothrough time and you know, how.
The masculine.
Whatever the, the hijacking of.
W whatever it is that we feelmasculinity in bodies, I think
of like divine masculinityversus the like yeah.

(30:45):
So.
Yeah fall.
So there are right.
And there are spaces that arevery, very safe.
For the masculine expression.
The feminine expression.
Which we all have both.
Yeah.
What I specifically.
You know, when I was creating myclass, that, that specific

(31:05):
class, and it is very specific.
That class was too.
Create a feminine.
Flow.
That was more and by feminine, Imean like fluid and there are a
lot of like rules of the spineand there's really like tapping
into the chakra system.

(31:26):
And then creating the space.
That's a little bit more like,you know I would say like inner
darkness, C you know, like.
So more feminine.
Flow creativity unknown.
Right?
Yes.
Yes.
But there were also a lot ofaspects of strength and core and

(31:48):
you know, Pulling R S thetightening into.
I hate the thing, nottightening, but like pulling our
energy, like focusing our energyinto like different areas, say
like the root chakra or, youknow, And I built the class
based on the spine, which is thehouse.

(32:08):
The home of the chakra system.
And then so feminine movement.
A little bit of a set seriesthat.
People could do.
The students could do with theireyes closed even.
Even if they wanted to.
And it became, and then itbecame more of like a fluid
movement.
And then.
You know, expressions in thebody.
Once you kind of get throughlike some of the set.

(32:32):
Set series or get to know it.
I created it so that peoplecould do it in their home.
They come consistently.
Every week or, you know, andthey kind of, it becomes muscle
memory takes over and they cansit in their space and do it in
their home, or kind of tap intothat.
I incorporate hands-on.
I think that that has a lot todo.

(32:54):
With.
The balance between themasculine and the feminine.
And, you know I will be veryopen and.
I'm, you know, I will.
Talk to him and make sure thatthis is appropriate and then you
can edit it out of it's not, butmy fiance.
You know, he started coming tomy classroom.

(33:16):
And he he opened up to me.
And said that was, I never felttouched like that before.
Yeah.
And it was, it was it's simple,you know that.
Yeah.
It's not pushing, it's notmanipulating.
Not doing anything.
There's just I, I feel verydeeply connected to the students
that make it into the class.

(33:38):
And those who are okay with me.
Allow, you know, and allow thathands-on experience and that
exchange of physical touch andenergy, even if it's just a, you
know, Just like a movement alongtheir spine.
Or, you know, even just walkingup and pressing my hands on
their back, you know, in child'spose.

(33:59):
I feel like, which is a veryvulnerable position.
Yeah.
That.
That was why.
It's all the evolution of theclass and the structure of the
class.
And so that is, I feel maybewhy.
There's such a great balancebetween the masculine and the
feminine who make it into theroom.

(34:20):
Because that's the way that Icreated the class was to be.
To tap into both the divinemasculine and the divine
feminine parts of our body.
Our mind.
And adding the physical touch.
I think helps.
I love that so much, Tara, so,and you're right about touch.
I think there's so much abouttouch that we eat either,

(34:41):
either.
Yes.
Yes.
He is done poorly.
Or overwhelmingly, like Iremember.
When I had four kids.
Right.
I mean just, I was constantlybeing touched and pulled on when
they were little like, oh mygosh, my body does not even
belong to me.
But, but it's beautiful days,beautiful days, of course.

(35:02):
But I feel that same way abouttouch when it is intentional.
And it's healing.
That is how I touch people whenI'm working them, working on
them at the clinic.
It's not just another, likeanother thing ramming your body
and other like bony fingershoving on your spine.
Or in yoga sometimes touchesdone by teachers.

(35:24):
Can be like, do this, do this.
Right.
Push that harder.
Sit in deeper.
Hold it.
Yeah.
But, but other times it can belike, Hey.
Let me offer support right here.
I know that you can slide in alittle bit.
Further.
If you have a little help.
And I think, I mean, that's,that's humanity.

(35:47):
Totally one touches respectful.
I'm not surprised at all that hesaid, I have not felt touched
like that before.
I'm sad.
That was his first.
You know, one of his firstexposures, maybe.
But there is such a difference.
I understand exactly.
Well, and I, I believe that whatis meant when people say those
things is in the moment in thepresent.

(36:09):
Yeah.
That we have such an energetic.
Response.
And onside.
Yeah.
To physical touch, even if it'sjust like a hand on the shoulder
from somebody who deeply.
Cares about.
People.
Yeah.
Good.
The.
You know, Infinite intelligence.

(36:32):
I don't know how to explain it,but, but the intention and the
intention is everything.
Yeah.
And I really truly believe thatthat is felt through physical
touch and you can sensesomeone's intention.
You know of care of compassionof.

(36:53):
Gentle.
Just being yeah.
Instead of like doing like justa, just a state.
Through touch.
And that's why it was soimportant for me to incorporate
the hands-on experience, eventhough it's a very, very, I
mean, it's with permission.
But it doesn't have to bejarring.

(37:14):
It's not a, you know, like it,it's a very gentle way of.
Of connecting and really that's.
Yeah, that was why.
A lot of my why for that classspecifically.
And I, you know, Beenconsistently teaching that class
around.
Cedar for.

(37:36):
Five and a half years.
I just, I just now took a break.
Yeah.
You know that.
Yeah.
But but yeah, anyways, I'mthinking to myself.
How fascinating it is that wehave gifts to share.
Right.
All of us.
I'd love to share 100%.
There's just different stagesthat we can share it on because
I'm really grateful you became ayoga teacher and all the other

(37:58):
things that you do that we'lltalk about.
But so because I need to dothere, but you would have been
one hell of a thumping, goodmassage therapist or
chiropractor.
I've actually both.
I'm like how.
How many years do I have.
Can I just, can I make thishappen?
You know Yeah.
I mean, we just all have ourstage, right?
Well, For some reason.
Yeah.
Okay.
I want to shift gears a littlebit.

(38:19):
Because you came in with thisdelicious bone broth.
It's so good.
I knew that we have a dream.
Oh, amazing.
So.
So.
As you were talking You saidearlier a phrase that you're
about putting the care for yourbody in your own hands.
And I think that's just anexcellent theme for our
conversation.

(38:39):
Yeah.
So I know you've put some carefor your body in your own hands,
other ways.
You have an auto have, I don'tknow if you have, or have had,
or auto-immune disease, but arecaring for your body in a way
where you're kind of needing tolike re correct, like correct or
retrain it.
And I know you have some coolmodalities to do that, that I'm
wondering if your show or sharewith my audience.

(39:00):
Yeah, absolutely.
So bone broth, when I I'm tryingto remember how long it was ago.
It was years ago.
It was when I had my first roundwith which I know now.
Was intense Lyme disease, but Ididn't know I had that then.
I had just, I had been on bedrest with my second pregnancy.
It was like ridiculous, bad.

(39:22):
And when I got up from bed rest,I had massive problems in my
intestines.
I had not experienced thatbefore all food was giving me
crazy inflammation.
It was on a very specializeddiet.
I was also juicing only I wasdoing whatever I could thinking.
If I can get the inflammationdown.
I can keep working.
I can be a mom.
I have this like new tiny baby.

(39:45):
Cause it started like, I mean itstarted while I was pregnant
with them and she was comingout.
So.
I tried all kinds of things.
And as the kid, as I had anotherchild, it worsened.
So I started doing things likethe gaps, diet.
Which is, I think it stands forgut and psychology syndrome.
So she's talking about how, whatwe put in our intestines can
affect us psychologically.

(40:06):
And at first that might sound alittle strange, but if you think
about it, like when we takealcohol into our gut, that
affects our brain, right?
I mean, it's this.
Chemistry in our gut affects ourBrainPOP street.
So she talked about linking itto schizophrenia, linking it all
to all kinds of behavioraltrouble.
And, but it was such a fantasticbook.

(40:28):
I wish it would have been atextbook for gut function in my
graduate school.
I mean, she explains it so well.
So if anybody wants to likesuper nerd out on gut function,
Yeah, I will save your time intextbooks.
Just go read gut and psychologysyndrome.
But she talks about what the,how important the lining of the
gut is and what we do to limitthe inflammation by what we are

(40:50):
eating.
So I started.
To do her protocol, which isvery stringent.
It's like, no.
Any of the crap.
And it's pro.
By crap.
I mean like no sugar.
No.
Yeah, I know that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm very familiar with the gapsdiet.
Okay.
Perfect.
So I'm sorry to over.
Explain to you.

(41:11):
I know.
Great.
I'm so glad we're on the samepage.
So then I started fermenting myown food and I started doing a
lot of bone broth, but I kind ofmoved out of that as I
transition.
And into a different help stage.
I want, I smelled your bonebroth this morning.
It's like inner part of me thatjust wanted to like, per that,

(41:32):
like.
happy sound means that we needto do some.
So I listened to how you prepareit.
Oh.
And it's just beautiful.
So I'm wondering if you willshare your experience of why you
started with bone broth.
How you prepare it and some tipsand tricks for why people would
even want to partake or what itdoes for you.

(41:53):
Yeah.
So bone Roth is full.
Of the nutrients specifically.
Collagen fats, proteins, aminoacids.
from the animals, bones andtissues.
Oregon's marrow, whatever youwant to add into it.

(42:16):
Minus the meat.
Of course I eat the meat.
Or but and it, what it does isit fills.
It helps to line.
Or fill in, I would say overtime, obviously.
Gaps within the gut lining.
Then.
Oh, if you do have, you know,leaky gut or, and I know he was.

(42:40):
You know, If leaky got, could beany like IBS you know, you could
have any auto yeah.
Auto-immune histamine reactions.
Allergies to insult yeah.
Insulin or leptin resistant.
You know, there's so manydifferent ways.
It's like things.
And I, this is really my jambecause I love.

(43:02):
Incorporating gun.
Yes.
Wellness as a whole into mylifestyle.
Like, it's basically just what Ido now, because it's really has
been a 10 year.
Shift.
Of my life, like completely, youknow, transformed everything I
do, but the bone broth.

(43:22):
Why I drink bone broth every dayis because.
Well, almost every day,obviously I'm, you know, I have
moments I'm traveling orwhatever, and can't get to it.
But is.
It is so warming, especially inthe winter months.
I have, it has successfully beenmy morning brew.

(43:45):
My ritual, that coffee used tobe.
I have since given up caffeine.
As much as, as, as much aspossible.
I still have like a little sipof Jefferson's coffee in the
morning.
But every once in a while, or,you know, stop and get coffee.
And, but now I can, I drinkdecaf.
But bone broth really it's.

(44:08):
It helps.
It's that nourishing like warmhug in the morning that I feel
does me such a like service.
Right in the morning and thenthroughout the day.
And I know that it's.
I even, I roll into yoga classwith a cup of bone broth.
I don't even yet.

(44:29):
Water.
Like, I'm just like bone broth.
I love what you said about it'snourishing you so much of what
we eat, I think goes into ourmouth.
If we aren't mindful about it.
Right.
No.
Yeah, because it's convenient orbecause it tastes good on their
tongue and then the rest of theway down.
It's awful.
Yeah.
The oils kill our energy andourselves, the sugar feeds the

(44:50):
bacteria that were fine.
Trying to fight.
Yeah, I just I'm astounded at,at sometimes my own behavior,
other people's, you know, likejust what we're trained to do
that food symbolizes in ourculture.
Yeah.
And I understand that food is asocial thing and it's fun to go
get a fun thing when you'retogether.
I'm not knocking on that, but.
How, what a relief and a joy itis when we find foods that

(45:15):
actually.
Pay us back, but like nourish usand that feel good and taste
good.
And I'm, that's one thing I willpraise the internet for forever
is that we have.
Access to.
How to prepare foods.
So they taste better andnourishes or where we can get
this kind or this kind of, youget your well, tell me how you
prepare the bone broth.

(45:35):
You get your parts.
And pieces that you do fromspecific places because of
reasons, specific reasons.
Yeah.
Aye.
Aye.
You know, I've try and stay aslocal as possible.
For our meat sources.
And whether, you know, And allI'm open to all foods.

(45:55):
I don't cut anything outspecifically.
I try and get in.
What's best for me and what Iknow.
Aye.
You know, feels good.
I want to feel, yeah.
Good.
It gets working for me.
I am feeling it and I am.
You know, and I have an, I canbring that state of healing once
I'm feeling.

(46:15):
So yeah, like as local aspossible.
For our meat sources and thatincludes the bones.
So we, I go local to.
Want me to.
Dolch.
Yeah.
Sure.
Okay.
Let's circle C ranch is where weget our.
Chicken.
Most of our beef, we willsometimes go to dry lakes in

(46:39):
Parallon bar 10.
Which is a local source as wellfor grass fed grass finished
beef.
And then, you know, circle Cranch.
We get Turkey.
From her, she goes wild Turkey.
She raised it like.
The has become like my go-to formeat.
And so I take.
Everything that we don't eat.

(47:01):
You know, meet sourced or I takeeverything and I do believe in a
nose to tail of her church.
However, we can incorporate thatinto our.
You know, our, our diet orlifestyle.
I, you know, we don't raise ourown animals, so I feel like
that's the best way that I canrespect that animal.
Yeah.
It's to tell for those who arenot familiar with it, phrase is

(47:24):
just you don't waste.
It's not like you're bringing awhole animal and then just
eating a tiny part of thebreast.
For example.
Yeah.
And there are so many nutrientsin all of it.
Organs.
Bones, the marrow, the.
I had to put fish eyeballs inthis stew.
I remember like we would, wewere camping and she talks about

(47:47):
the nutrients that are in fish,brain and fish.
I've also, I remember what Iasked my husband, like.
When you bring them back.
I need everything.
I just need everything.
Take the guts out.
I'll do everything else.
And I thought to myself, why didI open this pot?
There really are going to befish.
Flowing around.
Like, I don't know if I am thatwitchy yet.

(48:07):
Like, This is my home.
Yeah, the eyeballs just to freakme out, but which one for him,
which.
But no, I strained it all.
It was fascinating too.
Here, what is in the differentorgans?
Wow.
What does it allow?
I.
We spend all this money onsupplements and, you know, we

(48:27):
can take like handfuls ofsupplements, but that is stuff
that's though valuable, alreadybeen processed.
Yes.
Preserved or whatever, what isactually in different parts of
an animal's body is stuff thatfeeds us.
I mean, our early ancestorsdefinitely ate everything.
I mean, if you watch shows like.

(48:48):
Alive or naked and afraid orwhatever.
And we have to subsist likethat.
They are eating every tiny bit.
We can, every collagen isamazing.
Yeah.
And we process it so much betterthat way then.
Powder.
So much better.
And honestly, it's a morebioavailable to the gut lining.
Yeah.
Then a powder.
I mean, they're, they all havetheir place.

(49:09):
I really believe that we, we.
Do what's best in.
Yes, what we have access towithin our resources.
All of that, but this is thespecific way that I've chosen to
nourish my body while honoringthe animal.
Because we do eat animal baseddiet.
So so I, you know, strip thebones.

(49:31):
From all the meat, we eat meat.
All of the bones skin.
Yes, I do skin.
I trust, I trust my farmer, theskin Any organs that I get from
her feet, neck.
You know, all of the.
The super supple Colaccollagenic college.
Collagenous thank you.
Thank you doctor.

(49:52):
Collagenous maybe.
You know, Parts from the animalinto a pot.
How you use an Instapot or S.
I, my Instapot is my slow cookeras well.
And.
Then you, I fill it with water.

(50:12):
So all of the parts and I mix.
Beef Turkey, chicken, orwhatever I have.
Into the pot.
Fill it with, I have a reverseosmosis.
In my kitchen.
So fill it with water orwhatever.
Filtered, water, whatever youwant.
Distilled water.
You're pulling all the mineralsand nutrients and amino acids
out of these, the bones.

(50:33):
So fill it with water.
You add I just splash the acid.
In there, which is apple cidervinegar, or are you talking
about.
I didn't remember that.
How much do you put in?
From like an Instapot.
Like a couple tablespoons maybe.
Okay.
I mean, you can put in as muchif you're an apple cider vinegar
fan and you like that.

(50:54):
Like them.
I mean, I know I'm not either.
So.
I am a couple of tablespoons forlike an eight court, you know,
I'm to the point where I justput in.
And that.
That's good.
I'm assuming the kind with likethe mother.
Yeah, I use, I use, yeah, just,yeah.
As long as it's like a rawunfiltered organic.

(51:15):
Apple cider vinegar with themother.
Okay.
I mean, they're pretty much all.
Made the same.
Your foam broth was flavored sobeautiful.
Like onions or other stuff.
No just that.
So apple cider vinegar.
And then I think I added like alittle bit of like ground.
Organic ginger.
I had a little bit of tumericbecause I am.

(51:36):
You know, battling withinflammation, a little bit of
pepper, black pepper to cause.
Black pepper helps with thecurcumin.
Within the tumeric.
Okay.
So somebody doesn't know ifyou're having tumeric or
curcumin.
It works so much better if youcan.
It was like red pepper or blackpepper, some kind of synergy
with pepper.

(51:58):
I mean, it's just like ups the,you know, bioavailability.
Spiked.
Yeah.
1% or I don't even know what.
But do you.
Organs in it too.
Yeah.
Delivers or something.
Totally whatever I have.
I get from the farmer, I get allthe, I get the heart, the
gizzards, the liver.
Whatever I can get the marrowbones right from the beef, with

(52:22):
the marrow inside.
Like all, everything that Ipossibly can.
Haven't convinced her to get mebrain yet.
It's not there yet.
She's like, I don't know ifwe're going to go into brain,
but.
If you want to hide.
Sprain.
Yeah, fish brain.
I don't want to have.
What are the fish brains?
It's like, it's not like you canstill pretend to resolve.

(52:45):
But I think, I mean, definitely.
The benefits are.
I mean, we have to have firstand foremost, the belief just
like anything, right.
And yoga in the food that we'reeating.
This like.
Benefit.
You know, to our system, ourhealth, our physical or mental,

(53:06):
I do believe that it works tothe depths of ourselves and it
feeds myself and gives my cellswhat they need to repair.
Skin health.
I mean.
I health, everything thatinvolves any, I mean, our
entire.
Body is tissue Oregon's lion,you know?

(53:28):
The S yes, for me, I feel likethe connective tissue and, you
know, I'm really deep intofascia.
And I feel, I feel so muchdifferent when I.
So much better in my own skin.
When I drink it and when I knowthat I've made it and that I've,
you know, I brew it all winterlong.

(53:50):
And I do a 48 hour brew.
And then I'll drain it and then.
If the bones aren't completelystripped where you can actually
crumble them in your fingers,I'll do another 48 hour brew or
before today.
Yeah.
48 hours.
Meaning like in a slower.
What is done.
More water.
If they are still brittle atall.
If I can't crush them in myfingers.

(54:13):
And like mushroom up the bones.
Then I do another.
And there's still nutrients inthere and I am going to get.
Drinking what you did for thefirst bird.
And then gray doing it and thenjust cycling back through and I
just try and do it.
If not, I mean, You know, as, asconsistently as I can.

(54:37):
Specifically in the winter,like, I really do feel like it
helps with, I'm trying to get mydaughter to drink it.
She's more like mad.
You know, she's 14.
So.
But, I mean, you also use whatis left.
Right.
Yeah.
Like, would you drink theliquid?
What do.
Mash them up.

(54:58):
Everything that's possible.
Mash it up.
And I give it to my dogs and mycat.
You just need it to my aunthouse.
Their food.
I just top their food with it.
Yeah.
Collagen and whatever's left.
Totally.
And I just really feel like it.
I mean, it's a lot more.
Of a, like intentional mindfulfood to give to my animals that

(55:21):
are under my care.
And S you know, and I, they getkibble as well, but, but that is
just something, they lookforward to it.
They love it.
I know that it's nourishing forthem.
I know that it's better becauseit's prepared and it's not
wasteful.
I Don really can smell when Iopen something of chicken from

(55:42):
the complete opposite side ofthe house.
And it runs over.
He would be like, oh my gosh.
I've been smelling this for twodays and he followed you.
Going back before I, before wemove on.
I love you talked first about.
The belief.
So I have a couple of thoughtsof that.
Okay.
First of all, I used to.
When I heard that at first, Ithought, yeah.

(56:04):
Oh, my gosh, humans are so runby stupid beliefs.
Right, right.
And I sort of like rolled myeyes or I thought it was
esoteric or I thought it wasjust one more way to like
manipulate.
And then I really started tolearn.
The power.
Of what we believe about athing.
Totally repeat studies, goodstudies about placebo show that

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it can be more effective thanthe other thing.
And that used to mean to melike, oh, humans are so easy to
fool.
I used to be kind of meaninside.
But what it means to me now is.
We are amazing.
Again, more amazing than thischemistry that can happen in a
pill.
That's legitimate reactions.

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Our energy and our mind.
Deciding what we do with thething.
It's more powerful than thatchemistry that has been tried
and tested by very smart people.
Marketed.
Put out in the world.
We do more than that with ourminds and I have experienced.
Not only myself, but with otherpatients.

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So now I'm.
I seen it enough that I knowit's true.
That I'm aware when I'm puttingsomething in my mind, in my
mouth.
What I've seen with patients islike, I have a dear friend who
is having a lot of trouble withinflammation and a lot of
trouble with hormones.
So, of course I suggested andmega oil and there's a brand

(57:31):
that I really love.
It's not in a capsule it'sflavored nicely.
You weren't burping it up allday.
I'm like all excited to give itto her.
She wants healing badly.
She also has some trauma and thetexture of the omega oil going
down was really bad for her andput her in like a trauma state
of remembering a different timewhen there was something that

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texture.
So I, she called me and she'slike, Becca, I don't know what
to do.
I've like tried gagging thisdown.
I've tried having my daughtergive it to me.
I like, I just can't take this,but I want the benefits.
Right.
And.
Far from just saying, suck itup, do it anyway.
I said, Hey.
You don't have to take this.

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First of all, you don't have totake it at all.
There's other ways that we candeliver it.
There's other things that we cando, right?
Like we can do other stuff.
I'm going to want to rememberthe bone.
There are other methods.
Giving her some fish eyes.
But, but the thing I said is ifyou want to try it and only if
you want, it's not to convinceme it's not to do anything, but
if you want to try what youhave.

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I wonder what would happen?
If you thought about what it'sdoing for you.
Instead of that time.
And if you held it, she'spowerfully.
Present woman.
And I just said, I wonder whatwould happen if you thought
about what it is doing for yourskin?
If you thought about how youwant your hormones to feel.
If you thought about what it'sdoing in your brain and how

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amazing concentration will feel.
I just walked through the thingsthat I know that healthy fats do
in her body.
While she just started to say,And relax.
And I said, there's, there'snothing you have to take.
You don't have to take this.
But Nope.
If my finances were reallytight, she had already purchased
it.
I'm like, if you want to try,try that.

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Tell me what happens.
And she called me later and waslike done.
I've done and done.
Yeah.
Not that the trauma doesn'texist.
With that, what we are thinkingabout what is going into.
Our body is it's just superimportant.
It isn't even Wu anymore.
It is established science.
Totally.

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Yeah.
That that moving out of thething.
And the end to the, like how andwhy.
And.
You know, and.
Really?
Yeah.
That deep belief.
Regardless of how.
It's explained to us.
So our belief, right.
Belief.
And you explain that.

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So.
Well, but it really is, is abelief in ourself that it is
doing what it needs to do.
Or what, you know, Like down tothe cells and that's how I can.
Hello, what helps me?
Like what's the deepest that itcan go, right?

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Like, can it go down to theparticles that make up the cells
and you know, all, I just.
And it's not every time.
Of course, I'm a human and I,you know, I'm rushing to get my
daughter to school, to get hereand there and to work and, you
know, but can you, can you slowdown, can you, you know,
actually vision.

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Envision it.
What it's doing for your body?
Yeah.
That's the more that's.
I mean, it really is moreimportant than the actual thing
itself.
Yeah.
You know, and then do you feelgood about it?
Do you feel good about it?
So I know we're going long, butit's just, we are.
So I'm wondering if I can.

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One more question though.
Talk about you.
I had a business.
I don't.
Yes.
If you have that on pause or ifit's still going, but you're
still know what you're doing.
About that is saunas.
Can you tell me the benefits andUN.
And what type it was a redlight.
So on the right.
So it's an infrared sauna.
Okay.
So I have incorporated it intomy lifestyle and it was my

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meditation sanctuary.
Where I learned to meditate,where I was in the space.
You know, outside of like mymeditation yoga movement
practice.
Into a being with myself alonein a box practice.
So not only.

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It is the sauna have benefits,but I also was like, what can I
add?
How can I maximize this?
And I, so I, you know, Ideveloped my meditation practice
in basically in the, with thetime that I had sitting in the
sauna.
So, and infrared sauna is.

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A.
It heats up to.
You know, What.
Mine heats up to 170 degrees.
You know, there are two dirt.
Dry saunas, wet saunas.
They're infrared saunas are adry sauna.
But it, it actually usesinfrared.

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Frequency or energy light.
And why is that?
So they infrared actually buildsthe heat from your insight, the
insight.
So it's not only an externalheat does heat up.
Doesn't get as hot as a wetsauna or like a hot rock sauna
or dry sauna that can heat up tolike, 200 degrees or more.

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And both have benefits.
I chose the infrared justbecause it's more of a warming,
like internal.
Heat that works with the energyfrequencies of the body.
To build heat within and it canpenetrate.
The body.
Basically.
So internally the cells, thejoints, the muscles.

(01:03:12):
So it's you know, again, thisheat can penetrate and radiate
throughout, throughout the body.
Hopefully it helps.
Help split helps detox.
So, yeah, I mean, do you talksthrough sweat?
Right?
So that's one pathway.
Of our, I mean, so, so manypeople don't even know the
effects or don't experience theeffects.

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Of just a daily sweat.
Or you know, of regular sweatpractice of whatever that is.
And sweat is very effective for,you know releasing like heavy
metals.
Or, you know, chemicals,contempt, you know, different
Different.
I would say particles.

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That can actually be released insweat.
And a lot of that.
A lot of.
A lot of chemicals and heavymetals actually are released in
sweat.
So I, you know, I do it youknow, Going back about 10 years
ago.
Diagnosed with an auto-immunedisease.
So I was like, what can I do to,you know, Not have to live the

(01:04:19):
rest of my life onpharmaceuticals.
And so all of this.
You know, Biohacking type, youknow, Don't really like.
Leaning on that word anymore,but really like what can we do?
Like take these ancientpractices.
And bring them into our modernday life.
And the infrared sauna was thatfor me, it.

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I mean, it's a daily practice.
You know, I.
It's a time to, I mean, it's ledinto a time to connect now.
I'm with my fiance.
It's our like meeting time.
We sweat together.
And we release, we know wherehealing, where, you know, he's
very physical.
He has a weight trainingpractice and it helps with, you

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know, repair and rest andrecovery.
And.
I mean, I've, I've noticed thatit's the heat will, I mean, it
wakes me up if I, you know, Imean, some people, it will bring
you down.
It.
It's like an adaptogen.
Okay.
It really fills in.
Where you need, where like agap, like, you know, like if you

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are in need of energy, like youcan use the red light, you can
use blue light.
You can, you know, when it haschromotherapy, which is the
lights that are inside.
Of or, you know, built into theactual unit itself.
And so, and that has effect, Imean, light.
Color has effect on chemistry inour brain energy centers in our

(01:05:46):
body.
And it awakens, you know,different.
You know, chakras are our chakrasystem you know, and really
blends.
A lot of that in, I mean, itcan.
I think it's, and I don't knowspecifically, but a 30 minute
session as compared to like a.

(01:06:09):
Our run or like like, I mean, asfar as like the cardiovascular
can help with cardiovascularhealth, I mean, there's a
massive study that came outthat.
Reduces the rate of all-causemortality by 40%.
Just signing, like.
Like three to four times a week.
And it's, you know, Youmeditating while you're doing

(01:06:30):
that or doing something else.
Reading listening.
Podcasts.
It's really like.
It's so it's so amazing.
I love what you said about sortof letting the word biohacking
go and leaning on ancientpractices.
I felt like the more that I talkto people that are either a
trying to just stay well or betrying to get well, again, we
start to think it's like abiohacker science-y thing and

(01:06:53):
there's cool stuff there.
About that.
My husband.
And there is especially a nerdabout that.
But what I have noticed is.
When you get to what people arereally doing sustainably and the
things that people are just sograteful to incorporate it
almost always ends up being.

(01:07:13):
Ancient wisdom, ancientpractices.
Yep.
Watch what's going in your mouthand make it something that's
nourishing.
You do sauna.
Make sure you're sweating andmoving every day.
Totally.
And not over moving, not oversunny.
Yeah, like balance.
Cold plunges.
Yeah.
Community, totally positiverelationships.

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And those are things that do notcost a ton of money.
And you don't need fourdoctorates to understand.
No, no, I just don't know.
I'm grateful for another voicesaying that.
I mean everything that we, wecan find what we need.
I mean, The internet, right?
Like is a, is a space that nowis unlimited.
You can find what.

(01:07:56):
Basically what you, what youneed or what you're looking for.
And it goes in both ways.
Right.
But But yeah, I mean, there's somany resources out there for us
to heal.
I really, I do feel like itcomes back to.
Getting to know ours ourselvesat the deepest level.
And there's so much work and Icould.

(01:08:16):
I mean, I could probably, wecould.
We had go on for days about.
About the work.
For this never ending, and it isa journey and it's not one day.
I feel great.
And I'm going to fill the graythis way for the rest of my
it's.
No, it's, you know, today I feelgreat.
I'm going to do with it.
What I can.
And.
They're going to be things thatcome up in moments and and then

(01:08:39):
I'm going to do my best againtomorrow, or, you know, whatever
it is like it just, and thereare days where it's not as easy
as it was yesterday.
And you're wondering why.
And you know, and then havingthe strength and the will.
To make the choices to moveforward and just try again the
next day or, you know, I mean,it's, it's such, it's just part

(01:09:00):
of the journey.
Right.
Like there's no one thing thatworks for everybody.
But if you are interested in thething, try it out.
There are resources, the saunas,the.
The bone broth, the yoga, theinner work, the chiropractic.
Reiki, whatever it is, right.
The say.
Like.

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Mindfulness meditation.
Yeah.
I mean, I love that.
And then just circling back tothe very beginning as well.
The putting your care for yourbody in your own hands.
You also said a phrase that wasstrengthened surrender.
And that is what I think about.
All of these practices.
And it's also what I thinkabout, you know, thank you so

(01:09:41):
much.
Thank you.
Can I Just mention that I dohave a new class that started
oh.
Yes.
So, and it is kind of the, both,both like Mary Mary mint
marriage.
Marriage.
Connection community class.
That is starting and it is it'sstrength.
Surrender.

(01:10:02):
Trust space time.
All of You know, I really feellike it's, it's going to be a
very vulnerable class or peoplewho want to be open to the
vulnerability or who want totake a chance on learning
something new.
It's called yoga techniques.
And it's a new class that I'mco-teaching with another lovely

(01:10:22):
instructor and it starting onMarch 9th.
And it's going to be local atbristlecone.
So if you're in Southern Utah,that's in Cedar city.
On yoga.
And it.
It is.
Yeah, it's going to be like aplaytime workshop.
Type style class, where it'svery interactive and hands-on,
and we're going to have so muchfun.

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And it, what.
What it is is that we're goingto break down.
Different poses and posturesand.
Kind of bring that sense ofembodiment into the class, but
allow for the time and space andsupport.
To move into, you know, deeperposes or, you know, if you want

(01:11:05):
to try.
Balancing on your head or get ona table like a inversion table.
Like we have so many, so manyresources to just.
Why not like pledges play.
Oh, and so we're going to bethere leading it and it'll be
fun.
And it'll just be, I'm soexcited.
It's just a place, a safe placefor people to come to.

(01:11:28):
Expand their practice and havethe time and space and support
to do that.
Beautiful.
Tara.
Thank you so much for joiningthe keto.
Thank you for joining me today.
Thank you for having me.
All right.
Next time I'll be drinking bonepot until next day.
We do.
Well, that's what my laughsounds like.

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I know the sound is a littledifferent when I meet people in
person.
So thank you for your patience.
If it isn't quite as clean as itusually is.
Totally worth it.
The takeaways I get from Terracap.
Heart are one.
Find your fit.
I was thinking since ourinterview about Tara's journey
with fitness, with wellness,with knowing that she wanted to

(01:12:11):
be in that space, but trying tofind where she fits.
And I think that happens sooften.
For me, it was, I knew I wantedto work with kids and adults.
I knew I wanted to be in healthand I knew I wanted to be
helping people.
Hands-on.
But it took a while for me tofind that too, and becoming a
pediatric and a pelvic floorchiropractor.
That's a wonderful fit for me.

(01:12:31):
So follow your flow, let it leadto where you are and pay
attention to.
Where you're being called.
I'm so grateful that Tara hasdone that.
I wish I could gift everyonethat is hearing this.
Session in her yoga class.
So you could feel what I'mtalking about, but I think you
know it in your own life.
Number two, rather than judging,comparing or checking in with

(01:12:53):
your fashion in yoga Tara'smessage is to use a yoga
practice as a means to goinward.
And to observe what is there?
When you slow down the rest ofthe noise.
And observe it without judgment.
That is the magic of a yogapractice.
Number three bone broth is whatshe calls a nourishing warm hug.

(01:13:14):
That does us such a service.
I just love that description.
Of phrase in my life is to lovemore of the foods that love you
back.
And bone broth is one of thosethings.
I put her recipe in the notesand I'm so grateful that Tara
gave us some of her wisdom.
And some of her spirit.
I guessed for next week istruthfully just one of my

(01:13:35):
favorite people.
If she lived in my town, I woulddefinitely have tea with her in
her backyard at least once amonth.
While we just talk and I hearwisdom poor from her lips.
She is a previous high schoolteacher.
She's a licensed massagetherapist and she's a licensed
hypnotherapist, but that's noteven the coolest part.

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That's just the beginning.
What she gathered from all ofthose experience helped her to
go on a path where she createdsomething called the body-mind
bridge Institute.
And she's written three books.
The first is called.
What if symptoms are yourfriend?
Second body-mind bridge and theself healing mind and the third
survival trances.

(01:14:16):
So you can tell by those titlesthat she is into going deep
inside the mind.
To help us understand what'sreally happening with our mind.
How that affects our health.
And then to make changes thatfree us more and more and more
from those sort of traumasurvival trances that we get
into.
I met her when I was trainingfor my public speaking career
And her speech she was workingon was called.

(01:14:38):
What if symptoms are yourfriend?
And we talk a little bit aboutthat as we begin the episode
next week, she also has writtena new nonfiction book.
That's about a neuroanatomyscientist that goes with a
really questioning and academicmind into the world of
psychedelic healing.
And it is super funny about whatshe learns and how she learns
it.
She's also been working in thepsychedelic world as what she

(01:15:01):
calls a psychedelic doula, whichis when she sits with people,
helps facilitate to keep themsafe and to get help them have
an experience where they can gomore inward.
But also uses the skills thatshe has through the body-mind
bridge Institute to help themgo.
Even deeper if they wish intotheir own healing mind.

(01:15:22):
We discussed the science andalso some of her lived
experience as she's traveled toother countries to have
experiences with the shaman andthe elders having to do with
plant medicine teachers, or justhealing in general.
And she also talks about some ofthe current things happening in
that scene.
And what I like is some of thethings are different than what
we talked about with Cole wittyin previous episodes.

(01:15:44):
It's always great to get anotherperspective within the same
world.
We talk about that.
And we talk about going deeperin your mind, different
consciousness states.
It's just a fascinatingconversation for those of you
who are interested in goingdeeper within your own self.
To find some of the answers toyour own healing.
She lives with her wife in thePacific Northwest.
And I feel all of the groundedgoodness of the Mount Rainier

(01:16:06):
national forest that she livesin there when we talk.
So I am really grateful to beable to share.
One of the most empowering andhealing people that I've ever
met.
Shauna Marelli next week, I'llmeet you here.