December 28, 2024 • 15 mins
My longtime friend and fellow Navy vet Don joins the show for a few moments. Hilarity ensues, and pretty soon we're talking about a lot of stuff that had to be edited out...
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(00:00):
Morning brother. Morning brother. How you doing? I like that Harley-Davidson mug. You like that?
(00:05):
Man, this thing will hurt somebody if you chuck it at him. Of course, it costs $25 fucking dollars
I would hope it would hurt somebody. Well, it's got Harley-Davidson written on the side of it. You know what HD stands for? $100
I'm Jake Jacobs, and you're listening to What the F-
Jake Jacobs
(00:28):
Well, how the fuck is Jake? How you been doing, man?
I'm good. I don't know what happened. Early December, I just got on this creative streak, for lack of a better word, and I'm like, I need to fucking do something.
That kept churning in my mind, and finally I was like, you know what? I could start a podcast. You know, you have to be really niche-y about that stuff.
And some podcasts are so niche-y that they have a certain audience.
(00:49):
What if I would do something like a What the Fuck kind of thing, where you basically talk about whatever the hell is on your mind, that would cause you to say, What the fuck?
It could be personal, it could be something you see in the news.
Trying to stay away from the politics because everyone's fucking doing that.
Right. That's dumb.
I don't want to get pigeonholed into, oh you like a certain part, I don't want any part of that.
So I did a test run with Samantha, she's one of my coworkers.
(01:11):
Yeah, yeah.
And it was just a simple banter of her and I back and forth, just having a conversation about shit that makes us say or think, What the fuck?
So we did another one, and I'm like, you know what? This feels good. This is working.
So the whole creative juice is flowing. I don't know where it's coming from, but I'm rolling with it.
And then last night, I was like, I could do another one, but make it really niche-y to sailors, specifically sailors.
(01:35):
And a lot of people would probably listen to that that aren't sailors, just to hear fucking sea stories.
Yeah, hear what kind of dumb shit we used to do.
Yeah, talking about boot camp stories and sea stories, port visits, shit like that.
People would actually listen to that, especially if they knew it was coming from real sailors.
Yeah.
And of course, we may embellish some of those stories, which is totally expected, but you know, it is what it is.
(01:56):
Why not?
I'm doing good. I'm in a good headspace. I'm good.
Well, you sound good. And if you don't care, I'm going to brag on you a little bit, kind of for the audience.
But Jake and I met in the music business in Nashville. Fucking, I don't remember, it was in 2010 maybe.
We had these big ideas. And this guy at 40-some-odd years old was going to school, going to college.
(02:22):
Sound engineer college. And putting a lot of hard work in.
And man, I remember we used to go to the studios with some of these bands.
We got some close friends that we used to record a lot with right there out of Nashville.
And spent 18-hour sessions in there, writing songs and recording and having a fucking blast.
(02:45):
Probably drank more Jack Daniels than we needed to.
Five o'clock in the morning. Let's do a Tammy Winnett cover.
That's right. Oh yeah. Yes, I do recall that. That is all.
I don't know which one of us is the host, you or me.
Doesn't matter at this point.
Well, so you know the spousal unit decided when we left Tennessee and came to Florida
(03:07):
that she wanted to ride her own motorcycle. Right?
Right, but it started off as a fucking moped.
Just, I just want to put on a little sundress and cruise down to the beach.
And put my toes in the sand and all that girl shit.
So we went and bought her one of these fucking mopeds.
Well, being the smart chick she is, she says, you know this thing only does 35 miles an hour.
(03:29):
I'm thinking, well, that sounds like a fucking dude line to me.
And I said, don't worry about it. We'll just get you something with a bigger engine.
And it'll go faster. She says, okay, well, you better check the laws.
So in the state of Florida, anything over 49 cc's is a motorcycle.
So you have to have a license for it.
So she said, fucking, I don't want that. Long story longer, she went down to Harley.
(03:50):
I bought her a class.
She's three years into this thing and I think five motorcycles.
So she rides a full bag of road glide special at this point with fat tire kit on it.
And with all the Mac daddy setup.
So we know a little something about $25 fucking mugs.
Yeah. She went from, oh man, I'm not so sure about this to fucking all in.
(04:13):
Yeah, she went all in. Well, she bought, she's bought two this year.
She bought a street glide special, had it for 4,000 miles.
I went and took it in for the first all change. She was like, yeah, I don't like that one.
I'm like, what the fuck? I mean, you talking about a what the fuck moment?
That was a clear one. Yeah. Yeah. But she didn't ask her much.
So whatever she wants, she gets.
(04:34):
I noticed a couple months back, I was following your journey that you did solo.
Yeah. Let's talk about that.
Yeah, man. I got into a headspace that was not good.
You know, I've got a real supportive wife and I got this Harley out there.
I said, you know, I think I'm going to Sturgis.
Well, it was, you know, I don't like going to Sturgis when all the people are there
because I don't like to do, you know, I don't get real people-y.
(04:56):
But yeah, I just packed my shit one day, man, and said, fuck it, I'm out of here.
Went up to North Carolina, rode the Blue Ridge Parkway, man.
Went up through Kansas and Wyoming, the brass, or not Wyoming. That came later.
I stayed in Deadwood. I stayed at a fucking casino.
There were sheep on the side of the road.
I'm talking about mountain goats, whatever they are.
(05:18):
There's fucking elk, this giant elk. I was thinking, man, that guy looks tasty.
There was a big fucking mudslide one night.
It came down the side of the hotel. It's just thrilling. It's such a great place.
Wow.
And I got to see all the cool shit you read about in books, you know, Mount Rushmore
and that fucking Indian with his hand up, they're never going to finish.
Yeah.
(05:39):
I went to Wyoming to Devil's Tower. That's a big giant tree stump.
You've never seen it. Trust me on this. It's a fucking giant tree stump. It's beautiful.
But yeah, man, that was a trip and came home through Colorado and, oh, which by the way,
not motorcycle friendly roads. If you ride an E470, it's a shit show until you get into Kansas.
So I wrote a letter to the governor of Colorado.
(06:02):
Said you should be fucking ashamed. You're ashamed for roads because the minute I went into Kansas,
they were absolutely fabulous.
So anyway, we met in Greenville, North Carolina. Melissa rode up from St. Augustine
and we spent a week riding the Blue Ridge Parkway and hanging out in Maggie Valley
and doing all that shit right before that fucking thing got washed away by the hurricane.
Yeah.
(06:23):
Timing's everything, man.
Yeah. How many miles total did you run the bike?
Put about 5,500 on that trip. I went to 21 Harley Davidson dealerships, which was really neat.
Any issues at all with the bike?
Fuck no. Nothing but good. And I put a lot of my, listen, I bought this thing in, knee jerk, by the way.
(06:45):
I know you're surprised about that, Jake. I bought this fucking thing knee jerk.
I was already riding a motorcycle less than two years old, an Indian.
I remember the Indian and then all of a sudden you went Harley. I'm like, what the fuck?
Yeah. Well, you remember I was Harley first when I was in Nashville.
I had the Harley. I bought it there from Ring of Fire. I never did like that bike.
I don't know why. It was a cool looking bike, but it just didn't fit me.
(07:07):
In any case, I'm riding this Indian Chief and we go to this rally and I walk in this fucking Harley dealership
and they get this bike there that just stuck out to me. I was like, oh, I want that.
And the guy was like, it's $60,000. I was like, I don't want that.
But then he rolled out this road because it was ugly. Come on, man. It was yellow, black, it was fucking ugly.
But it looked like a bumblebee and he rolled this fucking road glide out and he was like,
(07:31):
give it away because nobody's even looked at it. So I bought it. That was May, maybe.
So by the time August got around, I had like 15,000 miles on it.
Shit. Yeah, I do. I ride. Yeah, I ride, man. I love that thing.
But it got me back into a really good head space. You know, at the end of the day, guys like us,
we're just regular and everybody's got a thing.
(07:54):
Well, you know, Neil Pert rode like across the fucking country.
Was it something about after his wife died or his wife and daughter died or something,
he kind of left Russia for a little bit, hopped on a fucking motorcycle and traveled all over the United States just by himself.
You know, you figure out real fast that no matter how badass you are, who your name is or anything else,
(08:16):
the world just looks better from the seat of a motorcycle. Yeah.
So I had carpal tunnel surgery. Yeah. How was that? Well, funny story, actually.
A couple of years ago, I think it was right around when COVID was getting ready to explode and the world fucking shut down.
Right. Yeah. 2020. Right. Yeah. I did something. I don't know what the hell I was doing.
(08:37):
I don't know if I was taken out to trash or something, but I felt my rotator cuff.
It was like, this really fucking hurts. So the VA was already saying, unless you're dying, don't even bother coming to the ER.
Unless you have a sucking chest wound or you're bleeding out of your ass or something. Right.
So I called and they did a video appointment and he had me do a couple of things with my shoulder.
(09:02):
And he's like, well, it's kind of hard to tell over the phone, but you might have a torn rotator cuff,
but there's really nothing we can fucking do about it now unless you're fucking dying.
I'm like, well, you know, it is my dominant arm. So basically I just pained through that shit.
I was just popping fucking ibuprofen or Tylenol or whatever. Yeah. So a couple of years passed.
Well, more than a couple of years. Late September, I was taking the fucking trash out.
(09:26):
Literally, that's all I was doing was taking the trash out.
I went to the trash can, threw the bag in the can and I felt something pop.
And it kind of felt like an electrical jolt. But then within about 30 seconds to 45 seconds, I was pain free.
I was like, fuck, it feels better now. So what happened is whatever that injury was,
(09:48):
it partially tore the long head tendon holding up the bicep. Right.
When I took the trash out, that fucking tendon snapped completely ruptured.
So now I have this thing that's called a pop eye deformity. That's what they fucking call it.
Yeah. They couldn't think of anything more scientific than that. But you know, I'm a sailor. So it kind of fits. Right.
I'm a sailor. Yeah. So I go to the VA and they're like, we're pretty sure it's a complete rupture,
(10:15):
but we're going to do an MRI just to be sure.
So they did the MRI. Takes about two weeks to do that and for the MRI to come back.
And they finally get me in for the console for that. And he's like, well, yes, you have a complete rupture,
but we typically don't do surgery for that because it's more or less just cosmetic. Which he's absolutely right.
I mean, there's really only so much they can do. They could, if I had gone right away when it happened,
(10:40):
they could have gone in and pulled that tendon up, drilled like a little hole into the bone there and stuck it in there.
And it would have been... That sounds delightful. Yeah. Yeah.
But really, he said, there's another tendon that holds your bicep up and that's right there at the crease of your elbow.
He said, now, if that one would have torn, we'd be doing surgery right now. He said, if that one goes, then you're basically, you're fucked.
(11:03):
But while he was examining me and that same visit, he started pushing on my hand and my wrist and everything.
And then he took my hand and pushed forward. When he did that, I about went through the fucking roof. Yeah. Yeah.
And he goes, do you know you also have carpal tunnel? He said, I don't know if it's because of what happened to your arm and your bicep,
but now you have carpal tunnel. So let's do surgery on that. Let's fix that. And then we'll work backward from there.
(11:29):
So two weeks later, I had surgery on my hand. So I never even had any indication of carpal tunnel. None.
I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to that. Here's what I do know. If I can avoid...
I like doctors less than I like my drug dealers, which is what I call my doctors, because that's kind of all they do these days is they just pump you full of shit.
(11:51):
Pretty much. Move along. And I'm okay with that.
The surgery for this was basically outpatient. They didn't put me to sleep. They don't even recommend that. They just kind of gave me a local.
Did you watch?
I didn't watch. They asked me if I wanted to, but I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm good.
I don't know what they gave me. I was awake and they gave me a local. And by the way, that local was like getting a shot of Novacate into your gums.
(12:15):
Like imagine getting a needle into the palm of your fucking hand. That was special.
But whatever they gave me in the sedative in the IV, dude, that was some good shit because all I know was I was in the OR telling jokes and thinking I was charming as fuck in the OR.
And 20 minutes later, they're like, you're done. I'm like, I didn't even know you started.
But I wasn't really loopy. I mean, I was lucid. I was talking, but I didn't feel shit.
(12:39):
And you didn't get a fucking name for this shit? Nothing?
No.
Really?
No.
All right. Well, do better.
I don't know if you knew this, but I was almost a DAPA counselor in the Navy. My first go around at shore duty, my detailer knew that I was from Pennsylvania.
So he was trying to get me in Philly somehow.
Yeah.
He's like, well, I can get you in Philly, he said, but it's going to be as a DAPA counselor. He's like, do you know what that is? I'm like, joke and alcohol. He's like, yeah.
(13:08):
He's like, well, there's a two week sifting process, like you're going to be evaluated to see if you would be a good counselor. So we have to do that first.
So they sent me through this two week thing in Norfolk at the base. And part of it involved going to AA meetings and stuff like that.
And then at the end of the two weeks, they evaluate you and you're either going to be a DAPA counselor or you're not. Well, I was not.
(13:30):
Because at the end of the two weeks, they were like, we think that you're just doing this just to get to Pennsylvania because that's where you're from.
And we don't think you're an alcoholic. And most of our counselors have an issue.
I have a problem with alcohol. So we feel that they make the best counselors. I wasn't drunk enough to be a fucking DAPA counselor.
That's awesome. That is the Navy's logic for you folks.
(13:51):
How logical or illogical was that?
I guess I kind of get their point.
And at the time I was only drinking beer because for the longest time I never drank liquor. I was just beer only.
And when they were asking me like, how much do you drink on a daily basis? I wasn't lying to them. I mean, I would tell them, you know, I come home, I probably have a beer or two every day.
(14:15):
But I guess because I wasn't getting shit blind fucking drunk every day that I wasn't going to make a good counselor.
That's a shame, Jake, that you weren't doing that.
Well, I remember waking up on a on a cold October morning in Great Lakes the day after we had our haircut, waking up the next morning.
And I would typically when I would wake up, I would run my fingers through my hair. And when I went to do that, there was none there.
(14:40):
And my first thought was, what the fuck did I do?
That is a big what the fuck moment, brother. Yes. Yes. That is a giant one. Yeah. And then from there it's just history.
Fair enough. What the fuck?
Morning brother. Morning brother. How you doing? I like that Harley-Davidson mug. You like that?
(00:05):
Man, this thing will hurt somebody if you chuck it at him. Of course, it costs $25 fucking dollars
I would hope it would hurt somebody. Well, it's got Harley-Davidson written on the side of it. You know what HD stands for? $100
I'm Jake Jacobs, and you're listening to What the F-
Jake Jacobs
(00:28):
Well, how the fuck is Jake? How you been doing, man?
I'm good. I don't know what happened. Early December, I just got on this creative streak, for lack of a better word, and I'm like, I need to fucking do something.
That kept churning in my mind, and finally I was like, you know what? I could start a podcast. You know, you have to be really niche-y about that stuff.
And some podcasts are so niche-y that they have a certain audience.
(00:49):
What if I would do something like a What the Fuck kind of thing, where you basically talk about whatever the hell is on your mind, that would cause you to say, What the fuck?
It could be personal, it could be something you see in the news.
Trying to stay away from the politics because everyone's fucking doing that.
Right. That's dumb.
I don't want to get pigeonholed into, oh you like a certain part, I don't want any part of that.
So I did a test run with Samantha, she's one of my coworkers.
(01:11):
Yeah, yeah.
And it was just a simple banter of her and I back and forth, just having a conversation about shit that makes us say or think, What the fuck?
So we did another one, and I'm like, you know what? This feels good. This is working.
So the whole creative juice is flowing. I don't know where it's coming from, but I'm rolling with it.
And then last night, I was like, I could do another one, but make it really niche-y to sailors, specifically sailors.
(01:35):
And a lot of people would probably listen to that that aren't sailors, just to hear fucking sea stories.
Yeah, hear what kind of dumb shit we used to do.
Yeah, talking about boot camp stories and sea stories, port visits, shit like that.
People would actually listen to that, especially if they knew it was coming from real sailors.
Yeah.
And of course, we may embellish some of those stories, which is totally expected, but you know, it is what it is.
(01:56):
Why not?
I'm doing good. I'm in a good headspace. I'm good.
Well, you sound good. And if you don't care, I'm going to brag on you a little bit, kind of for the audience.
But Jake and I met in the music business in Nashville. Fucking, I don't remember, it was in 2010 maybe.
We had these big ideas. And this guy at 40-some-odd years old was going to school, going to college.
(02:22):
Sound engineer college. And putting a lot of hard work in.
And man, I remember we used to go to the studios with some of these bands.
We got some close friends that we used to record a lot with right there out of Nashville.
And spent 18-hour sessions in there, writing songs and recording and having a fucking blast.
(02:45):
Probably drank more Jack Daniels than we needed to.
Five o'clock in the morning. Let's do a Tammy Winnett cover.
That's right. Oh yeah. Yes, I do recall that. That is all.
I don't know which one of us is the host, you or me.
Doesn't matter at this point.
Well, so you know the spousal unit decided when we left Tennessee and came to Florida
(03:07):
that she wanted to ride her own motorcycle. Right?
Right, but it started off as a fucking moped.
Just, I just want to put on a little sundress and cruise down to the beach.
And put my toes in the sand and all that girl shit.
So we went and bought her one of these fucking mopeds.
Well, being the smart chick she is, she says, you know this thing only does 35 miles an hour.
(03:29):
I'm thinking, well, that sounds like a fucking dude line to me.
And I said, don't worry about it. We'll just get you something with a bigger engine.
And it'll go faster. She says, okay, well, you better check the laws.
So in the state of Florida, anything over 49 cc's is a motorcycle.
So you have to have a license for it.
So she said, fucking, I don't want that. Long story longer, she went down to Harley.
(03:50):
I bought her a class.
She's three years into this thing and I think five motorcycles.
So she rides a full bag of road glide special at this point with fat tire kit on it.
And with all the Mac daddy setup.
So we know a little something about $25 fucking mugs.
Yeah. She went from, oh man, I'm not so sure about this to fucking all in.
(04:13):
Yeah, she went all in. Well, she bought, she's bought two this year.
She bought a street glide special, had it for 4,000 miles.
I went and took it in for the first all change. She was like, yeah, I don't like that one.
I'm like, what the fuck? I mean, you talking about a what the fuck moment?
That was a clear one. Yeah. Yeah. But she didn't ask her much.
So whatever she wants, she gets.
(04:34):
I noticed a couple months back, I was following your journey that you did solo.
Yeah. Let's talk about that.
Yeah, man. I got into a headspace that was not good.
You know, I've got a real supportive wife and I got this Harley out there.
I said, you know, I think I'm going to Sturgis.
Well, it was, you know, I don't like going to Sturgis when all the people are there
because I don't like to do, you know, I don't get real people-y.
(04:56):
But yeah, I just packed my shit one day, man, and said, fuck it, I'm out of here.
Went up to North Carolina, rode the Blue Ridge Parkway, man.
Went up through Kansas and Wyoming, the brass, or not Wyoming. That came later.
I stayed in Deadwood. I stayed at a fucking casino.
There were sheep on the side of the road.
I'm talking about mountain goats, whatever they are.
(05:18):
There's fucking elk, this giant elk. I was thinking, man, that guy looks tasty.
There was a big fucking mudslide one night.
It came down the side of the hotel. It's just thrilling. It's such a great place.
Wow.
And I got to see all the cool shit you read about in books, you know, Mount Rushmore
and that fucking Indian with his hand up, they're never going to finish.
Yeah.
(05:39):
I went to Wyoming to Devil's Tower. That's a big giant tree stump.
You've never seen it. Trust me on this. It's a fucking giant tree stump. It's beautiful.
But yeah, man, that was a trip and came home through Colorado and, oh, which by the way,
not motorcycle friendly roads. If you ride an E470, it's a shit show until you get into Kansas.
So I wrote a letter to the governor of Colorado.
(06:02):
Said you should be fucking ashamed. You're ashamed for roads because the minute I went into Kansas,
they were absolutely fabulous.
So anyway, we met in Greenville, North Carolina. Melissa rode up from St. Augustine
and we spent a week riding the Blue Ridge Parkway and hanging out in Maggie Valley
and doing all that shit right before that fucking thing got washed away by the hurricane.
Yeah.
(06:23):
Timing's everything, man.
Yeah. How many miles total did you run the bike?
Put about 5,500 on that trip. I went to 21 Harley Davidson dealerships, which was really neat.
Any issues at all with the bike?
Fuck no. Nothing but good. And I put a lot of my, listen, I bought this thing in, knee jerk, by the way.
(06:45):
I know you're surprised about that, Jake. I bought this fucking thing knee jerk.
I was already riding a motorcycle less than two years old, an Indian.
I remember the Indian and then all of a sudden you went Harley. I'm like, what the fuck?
Yeah. Well, you remember I was Harley first when I was in Nashville.
I had the Harley. I bought it there from Ring of Fire. I never did like that bike.
I don't know why. It was a cool looking bike, but it just didn't fit me.
(07:07):
In any case, I'm riding this Indian Chief and we go to this rally and I walk in this fucking Harley dealership
and they get this bike there that just stuck out to me. I was like, oh, I want that.
And the guy was like, it's $60,000. I was like, I don't want that.
But then he rolled out this road because it was ugly. Come on, man. It was yellow, black, it was fucking ugly.
But it looked like a bumblebee and he rolled this fucking road glide out and he was like,
(07:31):
give it away because nobody's even looked at it. So I bought it. That was May, maybe.
So by the time August got around, I had like 15,000 miles on it.
Shit. Yeah, I do. I ride. Yeah, I ride, man. I love that thing.
But it got me back into a really good head space. You know, at the end of the day, guys like us,
we're just regular and everybody's got a thing.
(07:54):
Well, you know, Neil Pert rode like across the fucking country.
Was it something about after his wife died or his wife and daughter died or something,
he kind of left Russia for a little bit, hopped on a fucking motorcycle and traveled all over the United States just by himself.
You know, you figure out real fast that no matter how badass you are, who your name is or anything else,
(08:16):
the world just looks better from the seat of a motorcycle. Yeah.
So I had carpal tunnel surgery. Yeah. How was that? Well, funny story, actually.
A couple of years ago, I think it was right around when COVID was getting ready to explode and the world fucking shut down.
Right. Yeah. 2020. Right. Yeah. I did something. I don't know what the hell I was doing.
(08:37):
I don't know if I was taken out to trash or something, but I felt my rotator cuff.
It was like, this really fucking hurts. So the VA was already saying, unless you're dying, don't even bother coming to the ER.
Unless you have a sucking chest wound or you're bleeding out of your ass or something. Right.
So I called and they did a video appointment and he had me do a couple of things with my shoulder.
(09:02):
And he's like, well, it's kind of hard to tell over the phone, but you might have a torn rotator cuff,
but there's really nothing we can fucking do about it now unless you're fucking dying.
I'm like, well, you know, it is my dominant arm. So basically I just pained through that shit.
I was just popping fucking ibuprofen or Tylenol or whatever. Yeah. So a couple of years passed.
Well, more than a couple of years. Late September, I was taking the fucking trash out.
(09:26):
Literally, that's all I was doing was taking the trash out.
I went to the trash can, threw the bag in the can and I felt something pop.
And it kind of felt like an electrical jolt. But then within about 30 seconds to 45 seconds, I was pain free.
I was like, fuck, it feels better now. So what happened is whatever that injury was,
(09:48):
it partially tore the long head tendon holding up the bicep. Right.
When I took the trash out, that fucking tendon snapped completely ruptured.
So now I have this thing that's called a pop eye deformity. That's what they fucking call it.
Yeah. They couldn't think of anything more scientific than that. But you know, I'm a sailor. So it kind of fits. Right.
I'm a sailor. Yeah. So I go to the VA and they're like, we're pretty sure it's a complete rupture,
(10:15):
but we're going to do an MRI just to be sure.
So they did the MRI. Takes about two weeks to do that and for the MRI to come back.
And they finally get me in for the console for that. And he's like, well, yes, you have a complete rupture,
but we typically don't do surgery for that because it's more or less just cosmetic. Which he's absolutely right.
I mean, there's really only so much they can do. They could, if I had gone right away when it happened,
(10:40):
they could have gone in and pulled that tendon up, drilled like a little hole into the bone there and stuck it in there.
And it would have been... That sounds delightful. Yeah. Yeah.
But really, he said, there's another tendon that holds your bicep up and that's right there at the crease of your elbow.
He said, now, if that one would have torn, we'd be doing surgery right now. He said, if that one goes, then you're basically, you're fucked.
(11:03):
But while he was examining me and that same visit, he started pushing on my hand and my wrist and everything.
And then he took my hand and pushed forward. When he did that, I about went through the fucking roof. Yeah. Yeah.
And he goes, do you know you also have carpal tunnel? He said, I don't know if it's because of what happened to your arm and your bicep,
but now you have carpal tunnel. So let's do surgery on that. Let's fix that. And then we'll work backward from there.
(11:29):
So two weeks later, I had surgery on my hand. So I never even had any indication of carpal tunnel. None.
I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to that. Here's what I do know. If I can avoid...
I like doctors less than I like my drug dealers, which is what I call my doctors, because that's kind of all they do these days is they just pump you full of shit.
(11:51):
Pretty much. Move along. And I'm okay with that.
The surgery for this was basically outpatient. They didn't put me to sleep. They don't even recommend that. They just kind of gave me a local.
Did you watch?
I didn't watch. They asked me if I wanted to, but I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm good.
I don't know what they gave me. I was awake and they gave me a local. And by the way, that local was like getting a shot of Novacate into your gums.
(12:15):
Like imagine getting a needle into the palm of your fucking hand. That was special.
But whatever they gave me in the sedative in the IV, dude, that was some good shit because all I know was I was in the OR telling jokes and thinking I was charming as fuck in the OR.
And 20 minutes later, they're like, you're done. I'm like, I didn't even know you started.
But I wasn't really loopy. I mean, I was lucid. I was talking, but I didn't feel shit.
(12:39):
And you didn't get a fucking name for this shit? Nothing?
No.
Really?
No.
All right. Well, do better.
I don't know if you knew this, but I was almost a DAPA counselor in the Navy. My first go around at shore duty, my detailer knew that I was from Pennsylvania.
So he was trying to get me in Philly somehow.
Yeah.
He's like, well, I can get you in Philly, he said, but it's going to be as a DAPA counselor. He's like, do you know what that is? I'm like, joke and alcohol. He's like, yeah.
(13:08):
He's like, well, there's a two week sifting process, like you're going to be evaluated to see if you would be a good counselor. So we have to do that first.
So they sent me through this two week thing in Norfolk at the base. And part of it involved going to AA meetings and stuff like that.
And then at the end of the two weeks, they evaluate you and you're either going to be a DAPA counselor or you're not. Well, I was not.
(13:30):
Because at the end of the two weeks, they were like, we think that you're just doing this just to get to Pennsylvania because that's where you're from.
And we don't think you're an alcoholic. And most of our counselors have an issue.
I have a problem with alcohol. So we feel that they make the best counselors. I wasn't drunk enough to be a fucking DAPA counselor.
That's awesome. That is the Navy's logic for you folks.
(13:51):
How logical or illogical was that?
I guess I kind of get their point.
And at the time I was only drinking beer because for the longest time I never drank liquor. I was just beer only.
And when they were asking me like, how much do you drink on a daily basis? I wasn't lying to them. I mean, I would tell them, you know, I come home, I probably have a beer or two every day.
(14:15):
But I guess because I wasn't getting shit blind fucking drunk every day that I wasn't going to make a good counselor.
That's a shame, Jake, that you weren't doing that.
Well, I remember waking up on a on a cold October morning in Great Lakes the day after we had our haircut, waking up the next morning.
And I would typically when I would wake up, I would run my fingers through my hair. And when I went to do that, there was none there.
(14:40):
And my first thought was, what the fuck did I do?
That is a big what the fuck moment, brother. Yes. Yes. That is a giant one. Yeah. And then from there it's just history.
Fair enough. What the fuck?
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