March 12, 2025 • 28 mins
John interviews Joyce about her new book “Live Abundantly Now” - learn how you can flip the switch and live a very fulfilled, fun life!
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Oh okay.
Yeah I am, I am I'm there just to.
I did read your book.
I loved it, and I've loved every bookyou've had out here.
We are on right now.
Yeah. Oh. So. Hey, Joyce, how are you?
Does that mean what's goodtoday is my book.
Yeah.What's good? Today's your book, and I'm.
I just love it.Enjoy health, wealth and happiness.
Live abundantly. Now.
I just love that word abundant.
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This, true stories to inspire youto manifest the life you desire.
Because we really can manifest a set,a tone of our day, by the way we think,
what we say of ourselves in the morning.
And, Joyce, I read your book.
It was an easy read.
I love the wisdom that you shared.
Some of my chapters are only a pageand a half.
I know itmakes you feel like you've accomplished
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something and it's easy to read.The print is good.
I didn't have to wear my readers,you know, with this, believe it or not.
And, But I'm thinking right here.
I love the idea, but I read it.
What was the impetusfor you to write this book?
Live abundantly now, so.
Oh, thank you for sure.
I'm sure everybody needs to go outand buy this book.
(01:03):
I just, I, I, you know, I saw that picture
and I, I knewI'd be on the cover of the book.
Yeah.
So I wrote the bookbecause I keep journals.
I mean, for I don't know how many yearsand I would write down
things I'd write down, like whatI wanted in life and la la la la.
I've had vision boards, all of that.
(01:25):
And one day years ago,somebody said to me,
you know, everything I manifest.
I realized,
I made really
light of the jokesabout it to my girlfriends.
And we laughed about it and then showed up
and that made me think,
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oh, I think that's happened to me too.
So I began writing down.
And these short storiesare a lot of my stories.
Some other people stories about
how they attracted that in their life.
And you'll be amazed at how it happensbecause it's so
all I can tell you is it's so easythat once you get it,
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you can't unsee it, right?
And then it comes with, well, you know,I love what you say.
The spirit of the.
Yeah, the enjoyment of.
Yes, yes. Right.
So I think of, Katrina's storyin this book.
So, Katrina, I love this story
because she, she was divorced
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and, kind of looking today,but not really.
And she said to her friends and herself,you know what?
I want to findsomeone that has no baggage.
We hear about it, but good luck.
Right?
Good luck.
Right.
(02:59):
All she said was, I want that.
I want everyone to be dead in their family
shoes in Los.
Right.
She went through that, right? Right.
She said, I don't want any in-laws.
I don't want any kids with problems.
I don't want anything like that,and I don't want to travel.
So I want them to live really close to me.
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Yeah. And they would laugh about this.
It would be like,oh yeah, we know what she was, right.
Like, so mom, blah blah blah.
So she,
maybe like a year or two later
she buys, a small little house
and she goes out into her own backyardand over the fence.
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She's her neighbor,and he's this good looking guy,
you know, parents there, right?
Never had children.
Things are looking good.
And I'll just say thatas we're sitting here right now.
It's been years,and they are still together.
(04:04):
Oh, I love it.
They still live next door to each other
because they decided that they both likedhaving their own space.
Yeah, and they live together.
And sometimes he comes home,but they have a beautiful life.
And I know him. And he's an artist.
He is picture perfect for her.
(04:25):
And she is for him. Yeah.
It was like, what? So.
And they thought she was crazy.And look what happened. Yes.
But in the book you will see a picture.
She had someone made a magnet for her thatshe put on a refrigerator saying that.
What chapter is his choice when I'm goingto be able to show that picture.
Next.
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I should see what?
Real casual doing this stuff.
Oh, you know, it's like we'reall hanging out together here at the.
Yeah. Catering.
Picture of the magnetthat she had on the refrigerator.
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm here.
Don't even see Michael Bolton in this.
Yes, the great Michael Bolton,Connecticut's own.
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That's, a story about how we metand how we ended up
actually having a business together. So.
Oh, I can't found her.
She's a while, she's lookingand she's always where she's worked
with Carly Simon, John Mellencamp,Mariah Carey,
you know, some small name peoplethat Joyce has been associated
with.
(05:31):
Let me see.
Her dream was simple.
Meet someone, fall in love and live next.
Yeah, that's what I.
Yeah. Wow.
I think it was it was, And and have yourown separate places to go if you need to.
I think that's ideal. Right.
Because especially if,you know, if someone's sick
(05:53):
and maybe you don't have the roomin your house
for the personto go to a wing of your right.
Right.
You just be like, I just sleep hometonight because I don't want you to.
Well, it's like the former.
I mean, this is not related to the book,
but the former head coach of the DallasCowboys, Jimmie Johnson,
when he would coach during the year,he didn't want to be interrupted.
So he bought his own house that he had
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during the season,and his family lived down the street.
And it and, you know,just basically a block or two away.
But they never saw him anyway.
But they had the means to do that. Right.
It was a Hollywood couple,and I don't remember their names,
but they had adjoining housesthat came with a tunnel.
(06:36):
Oh, really? Oh, yeah.
So here's an idea. Yeah.
So we thought it was really nicebecause she,
when she got all dolled up at nightwith her lingerie,
she would just call himand he would just like, honey,
yeah.
(06:56):
It kept it interesting.
It kept the adrenaline going.
Wow. Honey,I'm on the other side of the Donal.
Oh, wow.
Okay,okay, let's get back to the book here.
Okay.
I began to think of the thingsthat happened
in my own life, and it was as simple as.
And I'll tell you, the walnutbrownie story that's in there.
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So I had this hankering for Joyce. Now.
Now you got me thinking about the walnutbrownies.
I mean, she is a baker, too.
I just, I love toI know you do a good baker, but I just, I,
I like to experiment, so I, I woke up
and know it was the night before I was,grocery shopping with my son.
He picked up a box of, girardelli
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chocolate walnut, lava coming over.
Who has a nut allergy.
And I said, no, no, no, I'll,I'll just make, I'll make a simple one.
But it stayed in my mind.
I wanted that chocolate.
Yeah, I want that brownie right now.
I know I,
(08:06):
every time I
bring home brownies to my wife,she'll say, I love Joyce,
I hate her, I love Joyce,I hate her as she takes another big bite.
Right?
Yeah.
And so what happened
was I woke up that morning, and,
I made her the brownies,and I thought it was done in the middle.
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Yeah, I'm looking at it.
For those of you who make brownies,you know, they can't be
right.
Burns around the edges.
So I took it out with one hand
to pull it out to see, you know, test it.
Yeah, yeah.
And the whole pants was laidout of my hands, and it was like liquid.
(08:49):
That went all over my on the floor.
My shoes, it went everywhere.
And I went. Yeah.
And then I started laughing.
I just everyone was sleeping in the house,but I started to laugh,
and I sat on the floor and I thought,I am just destined to have a today.
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I mean, you didn't
you didn't see any swear wordswhen that happened.
Wow. That story.
Yeah.
Because it dripped down like the sideof my oven in between the cabinets.
Right.
I didn't get to see youhad a lot of work to do to clean it up.
But I kept saying, you know,I'm not going to let this get me down.
Maybe I just don't make it,you know, for, like,
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for something. Yeah.
So an hour later,
I opened my front door there, my pal there
who never did this before, like,
never, ever not allergy.
And she's got a white box in her hand.
And I said, what's that?
And she said, oh, I was in this,I was in this bakery.
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And they just came out with a tray
of brownies with walnuts and,
so I got,
Oh, wow.
Brownies.
I ever even better than the ones you made.
Really?
Because someone else made it right?
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Yeah,
right.
And I thought to myself at that moment,I think if I had cursed it and I think I,
I have been in a bad mood for some reason,she wouldn't have got that vibe.
I'm going to get this for her,because normally she.
Yeah.
Anything,especially with nuts in it. Yeah.
So there it was, this gift.
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And again, that made me think manifest.
Manifest how you mean? Wow.
Something else. Why?
I think I have the book,
about seven times my vision board.
Right.
People will say oh I don't, I don't know,I don't want to do that anymore.
And what happensis they cut out pictures of money
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or a car or a house and they look at that.
And then after months and monthsand months go by, nothing's showing up.
The board becomes a reminderof what they don't have.
So I tell people,
number one,you are the walking vision boy.
You are the onewith your thoughts every day.
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But if you feel likeyou want to have a vision board,
don't put on like what you don't have.
Put on pictures that make you feel good.
So when you wake up in the morning,if you love horses, put a picture of a
sunrise, sunset or something.
When you wake up makes you feel good. Yes.
I didn't win the lottery.
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Yeah, right.
But, yeah, you know,that's going to change everything.
And that's what I hope you know, isthat this book, gets that message to you,
especially when you readsome other people's, you know, and, Joyce,
what we say two words mean things to likeyou also allude to you.
You and I talked about that all the time.
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Like when people say, well,I can't well know,
switch around and say,how can I, I have to go to work.
No, you get to go to work.
It's an honor and privilege.
That little bit of a pivot.
And your language can change everything.
Your whole mindset.
And you address a lot of that with yourwith your with your book.
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Two, by how we look at lifeand how we can manifest things
by what we say and by whatwe think of saying that something is,
if somebody says to you,how are things going?
And maybe you, you're really goingthrough something, and instead of telling
the whole story,you can just say, you know what?
It's a little challenging right now.
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If you change it from it's so hard, right?
It's a little challenging right now,but I'm going to get through this.
So the keyword was the but to there,you know,
so it's a little challenging rightnow. People can relate to that.
But I'm going to get through ityou know or you know nevertheless
I use that as a transition many timesthings are really, really kind of tough.
You know, I'm, you know, a little bittough at work right now, a little stress,
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but nevertheless, you know, I'm,I'm really optimistic about things.
And you just watch how things can change
things to have a wayof changing around in your life.
It's like it's like the word disease.
Disease means lack of ease, you know?
And I think that's why a lot of peopleget sick because of lack of ease.
With all of a sudden, when you getthose ease thoughts a little bit
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more of a, you know, a positive mindsetabout yourself.
I think a lot of times, you know, that can
help. Yes.
And so many ways, using your imagination,being able to,
you know, dream about thingswell while you're awake.
And I'll give you another example of that,which is also in the book.
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I was going to a job that I did not like.
Something happened at workwhere the husband and wife weren't
getting along, and I was doingpublic relations for them, and it
it got to the point where I found myself
crying, actually, like in the car.
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So what I did, what I innately did,
don't even know why I did it,
but, turned offthe radio and I started to provide
and I would pretend I had a radio show
and it was my show, and I would say, hi,
this is Joyce Logan, and todaywe're going to talk about
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and I went into this,you know, imaginative things that kids.
I loved doing that.
So I did that.
And this is going to seem really bizarre.
You're going to say that can't be.
But three weeks later I was co-hostingwhen someone couldn't show up in radio.
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They asked me to cover for them.
I had never done that ever, ever, ever.
So, I went to lunch one day with someone
and they had their own radio show,but I met with them because
they were, they advertised on the show.
The reason why I met them for my client.
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The one that I was havinga difficult time. Yes.
And we had lunch and we talked about it,
and he said, well,I'll send you information on that.
Did great, great.
And I got back to my office
and the phone rang, and it
was the receptionistsaying that this person was on the phone.
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And my heart started to race.
And I had this crazy thoughtthat he was going
to ask me to cover for him on the show.
I don't.
Wow phone.
And he said, who?
Wow. I had a great talk with you. Yeah.
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And I know that you'll be able to do thisbecause you listen to the show.
When did it is I didn't really ever
know.
Right? Right. My mother did. Right.
I knew of the show,I knew pieces of the show,
and I did
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know it was the next day.
Wow. The next day.
The next day it was a five hour show.
A four hour show on Sunday,only breaking for news.
So a talk show.
You didn't have any music to play?Like what?
What were the what I do?
Wow, that's a lot of time to fill in
what I had to talk about
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were placesabout businesses that he frequented.
But you didn't know well.
And most of the restaurants to talk about,I'm vegetarian.
There were all steakhouse
places that I would be frequenting,quite frankly.
Yes, yes.
Being the carnivore I am when I walk,I didn't even sleep that night.
(17:08):
I mean, you can imagine. Yeah.
I had like maybe two hours sleep.
And I remember my husband saying to me,how do you get yourself into these.
I said yesbecause I feel compelled to say yes.
But please don't listen because if I know
you're listening,I don't want anyone critiquing me.
I'm not even going to say my name.
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And I and I, the whole time you sayyour name, I think I said Joyce, right?
Joyce, in the very beginning,I'm covering the show and,
and my heart
was beating out of my chestwhen the red light went on.
Yeah.
You know, I remember I rememberthe feeling when I first did radio.
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I'm like,am I going to have the breath to speak?
Am I going to let this guy down?
I've got five hours to talk, five hours.
And that's insane.
It was. Yeah. So the red light
and, you
know, the producer went like this, right?
And I just started speaking and I said,well, obviously,
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you know, I'm not and I'm,you know, and know obviously I'm not.
But you know, we know we're going to havea good time today, you know, right.
Reading through,you know, what is stuff like that.
And I began to feel like I was Cinderella
who found the other shoe in my life.
It was a spirit of ease.
(18:37):
Yeah.
That I realized that
I always love speaking to people.
I am a storytellerand even though I was horrible
for that showbecause I wasn't making sales for them.
Right.
But people were coming in and telling
the people answering phones like, oh,tell her,
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to keep talking about those storiesbecause we like to hear it.
I was like, okay, but you know, you're inyour you're in your right place
making money for them, right?
The biggest compliment I got is,
by Sunday,I had to get up and do it again.
And I was really like,oh, you got to do it again
for hours and I'll see you one less hour.
(19:22):
Oh, sour.
But I crawled up.
I'm, I go to bed. Right.
And I saw that my son was calling me
and family I always pick up for.
So I, I picked up this, you know.
Hi, Tim.
And, I said, I'm really, really tired.
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You know, I had to work this morning.
That's all I said.
And he said, you know,he said I was sitting
and having a cup of coffeein a parking lot.
I think it was McDonald's.
And he always listened to the show.
Yeah, I didn't know.
And he said, it's so funnybecause the woman that was, there,
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I found her so comforting.
And then I realizedthat she reminded me of you.
But then I thought, she was very professional, and you're not.
Oh, geez.
You get a compliment.
And then,
just like a backtrack, never thought of mebeing on the radio right in his head.
Yeah, yeah,
that's all I needed to hear, right?
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Me feel like I didn't let peopledown, right?
I didn't care because I loved it,I loved it,
and then after that, I was offered a showfor a couple of years. Wow.
And the one called the Two WiseLadies. Yeah.
But what I'm trying to sayis that came off my imagination.
Like I was doing a soothing, like, salve
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on my mindbecause I so just liked where I was going.
And I created this imaginary worldwhile I was driving to and from
and and think, how little kids do thatall the time.
Little kids do that all the time.
They play them and write.
A lot of times they manifest
because they're out there playing,you know, make believe.
And you were doing that make believe,but you were manifesting something. Yes.
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It was almost like the laws ofthe universe are saying, choice.
That's for you. Yes. Right.
And that's
that's what I, I started writing this bookabout all those times,
even though they may soundlike insignificant things to you,
it doesn't always have to be the lotterythat you win.
It could be someone shows up.
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Someone gives you aa relationship that happened with your
with your husband Wayne,you kind of manifested that I did.
And that's also written about in the book.
Yeah.
That's a that's a very, very special storybecause I loved him before
this was even possible to be with him,
but I never I was I was in his presence
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and he was married at the timeand that's all I knew we were in.
I was doing my internship at the BrantfordCounseling Center in our town,
because I just alwayswanted to be a therapist.
And however, on my way to be a therapist,I made a pit stop in radio, and that's,
Yeah, because it helped me.
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Okay, sure.
And I needed a therapist at the time,like most people in radio.
Thank you. Joyce.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, those are interesting times.
But it was during that time where I wasI was this intern, you know,
and running a group with no code run.
It wasn't running it.
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It was.
I was,
an intern, and it was a group about people
in transition,whether it was jobs or whatever in life.
It was really interesting group.
And she said to me one day,wait till you meet
someone who's joining our group,Wayne Logan and Wayne Logan is fabulous.
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And he could actually write a bookabout this, you know?
But, you know, he's joining the group.
So great.
So, you know, I really was looking forwardto meeting him.
And that morning,I broke my foot. Oh, geez.
I picked
up in the closet and something very heavyfell on my foot.
And I went to emergency roomswith the cast of my foot and crutches.
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But I something told me I had to gobecause I really wanted to meet Wayne,
not only because he was a new additionto the crew
and was sitting in the group
setting, and he's talking and all that,and I'm just saying,
oh, marvelous man ishis wife is like looking him on earth.
I thought, you know, was in my mind.
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And but there's one thing,
when we were in the group,you know, if you in the emergency room.
Right.
You know, like,if you get a hospital bracelet.
Yes. Impossible.
I know, so I wasI had the hospital bracelet on.
I was trying to maneuver it off,you know, kind of, you know, I could see.
Yeah.
And the group leader says, Joyce,you're looking very pensive and
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you want to add.
Oh, boy, you'rejust trying to get the bracelet out.
Oh, yeah. My finger or.
No, no, I don't think we don't got caughtunder a little clasp.
Right. And I couldn't dislodge my hand.
So I, you know, I
when I held it upand I said, I'm so sorry, but I'm caught.
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Wayne came over, is the only onewho got up, and he knelt in front of me.
And he took the my nail,and he just eased it out,
and I thought, oh,
this guy is so great.
His wife is like,
it's like circulating in the brain, like,yeah, he's a shivery.
And the thing is,you know, like the knight
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in shiningarmor, he's been a gentleman in every way.
And he helped me.
You know, evenI was going on a date with someone
he even,you know, helped me with something, right?
And so it was it.
So five yearsafter that, to make the story short, I'm.
This is wife, and I had the opportunityto work with this man
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at many of my DJ gigs over the years,and he was a photographer.
He also did some, you know, photoshoots for us, you know, at my house.
And you're right.
I mean, an absolute gentlemanin every way.
And, I love Jimmy Stewartbecause, I don't really.
You shall.
We talkedabout one of my favorite movies. Yes.
He reminded me of right,right as tall and thin.
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But he had a demeanor about him.
Just a very kind man. Not judgmental.
When you were around him,you felt like he.
You know,he just, liked you for who you are. Yes.
That's a real gift. You.
You know, I have this daughter in my life,
you know, Denise,she's a wonderful, just wonderful person.
She's like my bonus daughter.
So why don't we hold up your book again?Joyce?
(25:57):
You know, and, when is this goingto be available for everybody to buy?
Time. You see this?
This this will be on Amazon.
And if you get Kindle,just like pennies to get it.
But, I think it will help you.
I think it will helpyou see that it's not as difficult
as it appears to manifest.
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The words manifest may seem to be right,
but it starts with the littlethings and then it grows.
But it's every day just to be grateful.
Just to be thankful.
And once those miraclesof little miracle start.
Yeah, they don't stopbecause you keep seeing them.
You can't unsee them.
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But give them as much creditas you do as millions of dollars,
because you will have the mindset pieceof that within you.
Yeah, we're all looking for that pieceand grab it and gratitude is riches,
if you think about thateach and every day, just being grateful.
And no matter how tough our lives areand we all have challenges,
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each and every one of us is battlingsomething right now.
There's still something to begrateful for.
Yeah, there's a lot more, I think,to be grateful for than than there isn't.
It's all about where you look.
If you turn on the
news, it immediatelysinks your heart to them.
It does.
That's why I say watch the local news,which is great.
Learn what the weather is.
But beyond that, we don't need to knowwhat the whole world is doing.
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Right? You can.
We can pray.
We we really can't send our good energyand all of that.
But peace begins in your homeand you have to have that too.
Life is too short not to have it.
That's right.
There's a there's a lot going on, and, there's a there's a lot of good out there.
So just focus on focus on what's good,what's good in your life.
And then that's the name of our show here.
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What's good with John and Joyce and,tell your friends about us, please.
You know, let them know about this.
And, we'd love to get your feedbackdown the line.
And thank you so much for for sending.
Yeah, lots of it. And thank you so muchfor watching and listening.
And we wish you the bestfor you and your family.
Bye for now.
Oh okay.
Yeah I am, I am I'm there just to.
I did read your book.
I loved it, and I've loved every bookyou've had out here.
We are on right now.
Yeah. Oh. So. Hey, Joyce, how are you?
Does that mean what's goodtoday is my book.
Yeah.What's good? Today's your book, and I'm.
I just love it.Enjoy health, wealth and happiness.
Live abundantly. Now.
I just love that word abundant.
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This, true stories to inspire youto manifest the life you desire.
Because we really can manifest a set,a tone of our day, by the way we think,
what we say of ourselves in the morning.
And, Joyce, I read your book.
It was an easy read.
I love the wisdom that you shared.
Some of my chapters are only a pageand a half.
I know itmakes you feel like you've accomplished
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something and it's easy to read.The print is good.
I didn't have to wear my readers,you know, with this, believe it or not.
And, But I'm thinking right here.
I love the idea, but I read it.
What was the impetusfor you to write this book?
Live abundantly now, so.
Oh, thank you for sure.
I'm sure everybody needs to go outand buy this book.
(01:03):
I just, I, I, you know, I saw that picture
and I, I knewI'd be on the cover of the book.
Yeah.
So I wrote the bookbecause I keep journals.
I mean, for I don't know how many yearsand I would write down
things I'd write down, like whatI wanted in life and la la la la.
I've had vision boards, all of that.
(01:25):
And one day years ago,somebody said to me,
you know, everything I manifest.
I realized,
I made really
light of the jokesabout it to my girlfriends.
And we laughed about it and then showed up
and that made me think,
(01:48):
oh, I think that's happened to me too.
So I began writing down.
And these short storiesare a lot of my stories.
Some other people stories about
how they attracted that in their life.
And you'll be amazed at how it happensbecause it's so
all I can tell you is it's so easythat once you get it,
(02:13):
you can't unsee it, right?
And then it comes with, well, you know,I love what you say.
The spirit of the.
Yeah, the enjoyment of.
Yes, yes. Right.
So I think of, Katrina's storyin this book.
So, Katrina, I love this story
because she, she was divorced
(02:37):
and, kind of looking today,but not really.
And she said to her friends and herself,you know what?
I want to findsomeone that has no baggage.
We hear about it, but good luck.
Right?
Good luck.
Right.
(02:59):
All she said was, I want that.
I want everyone to be dead in their family
shoes in Los.
Right.
She went through that, right? Right.
She said, I don't want any in-laws.
I don't want any kids with problems.
I don't want anything like that,and I don't want to travel.
So I want them to live really close to me.
(03:22):
Yeah. And they would laugh about this.
It would be like,oh yeah, we know what she was, right.
Like, so mom, blah blah blah.
So she,
maybe like a year or two later
she buys, a small little house
and she goes out into her own backyardand over the fence.
(03:44):
She's her neighbor,and he's this good looking guy,
you know, parents there, right?
Never had children.
Things are looking good.
And I'll just say thatas we're sitting here right now.
It's been years,and they are still together.
(04:04):
Oh, I love it.
They still live next door to each other
because they decided that they both likedhaving their own space.
Yeah, and they live together.
And sometimes he comes home,but they have a beautiful life.
And I know him. And he's an artist.
He is picture perfect for her.
(04:25):
And she is for him. Yeah.
It was like, what? So.
And they thought she was crazy.And look what happened. Yes.
But in the book you will see a picture.
She had someone made a magnet for her thatshe put on a refrigerator saying that.
What chapter is his choice when I'm goingto be able to show that picture.
Next.
(04:46):
I should see what?
Real casual doing this stuff.
Oh, you know, it's like we'reall hanging out together here at the.
Yeah. Catering.
Picture of the magnetthat she had on the refrigerator.
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm here.
Don't even see Michael Bolton in this.
Yes, the great Michael Bolton,Connecticut's own.
(05:08):
That's, a story about how we metand how we ended up
actually having a business together. So.
Oh, I can't found her.
She's a while, she's lookingand she's always where she's worked
with Carly Simon, John Mellencamp,Mariah Carey,
you know, some small name peoplethat Joyce has been associated
with.
(05:31):
Let me see.
Her dream was simple.
Meet someone, fall in love and live next.
Yeah, that's what I.
Yeah. Wow.
I think it was it was, And and have yourown separate places to go if you need to.
I think that's ideal. Right.
Because especially if,you know, if someone's sick
(05:53):
and maybe you don't have the roomin your house
for the personto go to a wing of your right.
Right.
You just be like, I just sleep hometonight because I don't want you to.
Well, it's like the former.
I mean, this is not related to the book,
but the former head coach of the DallasCowboys, Jimmie Johnson,
when he would coach during the year,he didn't want to be interrupted.
So he bought his own house that he had
(06:16):
during the season,and his family lived down the street.
And it and, you know,just basically a block or two away.
But they never saw him anyway.
But they had the means to do that. Right.
It was a Hollywood couple,and I don't remember their names,
but they had adjoining housesthat came with a tunnel.
(06:36):
Oh, really? Oh, yeah.
So here's an idea. Yeah.
So we thought it was really nicebecause she,
when she got all dolled up at nightwith her lingerie,
she would just call himand he would just like, honey,
yeah.
(06:56):
It kept it interesting.
It kept the adrenaline going.
Wow. Honey,I'm on the other side of the Donal.
Oh, wow.
Okay,okay, let's get back to the book here.
Okay.
I began to think of the thingsthat happened
in my own life, and it was as simple as.
And I'll tell you, the walnutbrownie story that's in there.
(07:19):
So I had this hankering for Joyce. Now.
Now you got me thinking about the walnutbrownies.
I mean, she is a baker, too.
I just, I love toI know you do a good baker, but I just, I,
I like to experiment, so I, I woke up
and know it was the night before I was,grocery shopping with my son.
He picked up a box of, girardelli
(07:42):
chocolate walnut, lava coming over.
Who has a nut allergy.
And I said, no, no, no, I'll,I'll just make, I'll make a simple one.
But it stayed in my mind.
I wanted that chocolate.
Yeah, I want that brownie right now.
I know I,
(08:06):
every time I
bring home brownies to my wife,she'll say, I love Joyce,
I hate her, I love Joyce,I hate her as she takes another big bite.
Right?
Yeah.
And so what happened
was I woke up that morning, and,
I made her the brownies,and I thought it was done in the middle.
(08:29):
Yeah, I'm looking at it.
For those of you who make brownies,you know, they can't be
right.
Burns around the edges.
So I took it out with one hand
to pull it out to see, you know, test it.
Yeah, yeah.
And the whole pants was laidout of my hands, and it was like liquid.
(08:49):
That went all over my on the floor.
My shoes, it went everywhere.
And I went. Yeah.
And then I started laughing.
I just everyone was sleeping in the house,but I started to laugh,
and I sat on the floor and I thought,I am just destined to have a today.
(09:11):
I mean, you didn't
you didn't see any swear wordswhen that happened.
Wow. That story.
Yeah.
Because it dripped down like the sideof my oven in between the cabinets.
Right.
I didn't get to see youhad a lot of work to do to clean it up.
But I kept saying, you know,I'm not going to let this get me down.
Maybe I just don't make it,you know, for, like,
(09:35):
for something. Yeah.
So an hour later,
I opened my front door there, my pal there
who never did this before, like,
never, ever not allergy.
And she's got a white box in her hand.
And I said, what's that?
And she said, oh, I was in this,I was in this bakery.
(09:58):
And they just came out with a tray
of brownies with walnuts and,
so I got,
Oh, wow.
Brownies.
I ever even better than the ones you made.
Really?
Because someone else made it right?
(10:18):
Yeah,
right.
And I thought to myself at that moment,I think if I had cursed it and I think I,
I have been in a bad mood for some reason,she wouldn't have got that vibe.
I'm going to get this for her,because normally she.
Yeah.
Anything,especially with nuts in it. Yeah.
So there it was, this gift.
(10:41):
And again, that made me think manifest.
Manifest how you mean? Wow.
Something else. Why?
I think I have the book,
about seven times my vision board.
Right.
People will say oh I don't, I don't know,I don't want to do that anymore.
And what happensis they cut out pictures of money
(11:06):
or a car or a house and they look at that.
And then after months and monthsand months go by, nothing's showing up.
The board becomes a reminderof what they don't have.
So I tell people,
number one,you are the walking vision boy.
You are the onewith your thoughts every day.
(11:28):
But if you feel likeyou want to have a vision board,
don't put on like what you don't have.
Put on pictures that make you feel good.
So when you wake up in the morning,if you love horses, put a picture of a
sunrise, sunset or something.
When you wake up makes you feel good. Yes.
I didn't win the lottery.
(11:50):
Yeah, right.
But, yeah, you know,that's going to change everything.
And that's what I hope you know, isthat this book, gets that message to you,
especially when you readsome other people's, you know, and, Joyce,
what we say two words mean things to likeyou also allude to you.
You and I talked about that all the time.
(12:11):
Like when people say, well,I can't well know,
switch around and say,how can I, I have to go to work.
No, you get to go to work.
It's an honor and privilege.
That little bit of a pivot.
And your language can change everything.
Your whole mindset.
And you address a lot of that with yourwith your with your book.
(12:31):
Two, by how we look at lifeand how we can manifest things
by what we say and by whatwe think of saying that something is,
if somebody says to you,how are things going?
And maybe you, you're really goingthrough something, and instead of telling
the whole story,you can just say, you know what?
It's a little challenging right now.
(12:53):
If you change it from it's so hard, right?
It's a little challenging right now,but I'm going to get through this.
So the keyword was the but to there,you know,
so it's a little challenging rightnow. People can relate to that.
But I'm going to get through ityou know or you know nevertheless
I use that as a transition many timesthings are really, really kind of tough.
You know, I'm, you know, a little bittough at work right now, a little stress,
(13:14):
but nevertheless, you know, I'm,I'm really optimistic about things.
And you just watch how things can change
things to have a wayof changing around in your life.
It's like it's like the word disease.
Disease means lack of ease, you know?
And I think that's why a lot of peopleget sick because of lack of ease.
With all of a sudden, when you getthose ease thoughts a little bit
(13:36):
more of a, you know, a positive mindsetabout yourself.
I think a lot of times, you know, that can
help. Yes.
And so many ways, using your imagination,being able to,
you know, dream about thingswell while you're awake.
And I'll give you another example of that,which is also in the book.
(13:58):
I was going to a job that I did not like.
Something happened at workwhere the husband and wife weren't
getting along, and I was doingpublic relations for them, and it
it got to the point where I found myself
crying, actually, like in the car.
(14:19):
So what I did, what I innately did,
don't even know why I did it,
but, turned offthe radio and I started to provide
and I would pretend I had a radio show
and it was my show, and I would say, hi,
this is Joyce Logan, and todaywe're going to talk about
(14:40):
and I went into this,you know, imaginative things that kids.
I loved doing that.
So I did that.
And this is going to seem really bizarre.
You're going to say that can't be.
But three weeks later I was co-hostingwhen someone couldn't show up in radio.
(15:01):
They asked me to cover for them.
I had never done that ever, ever, ever.
So, I went to lunch one day with someone
and they had their own radio show,but I met with them because
they were, they advertised on the show.
The reason why I met them for my client.
(15:22):
The one that I was havinga difficult time. Yes.
And we had lunch and we talked about it,
and he said, well,I'll send you information on that.
Did great, great.
And I got back to my office
and the phone rang, and it
was the receptionistsaying that this person was on the phone.
(15:43):
And my heart started to race.
And I had this crazy thoughtthat he was going
to ask me to cover for him on the show.
I don't.
Wow phone.
And he said, who?
Wow. I had a great talk with you. Yeah.
(16:03):
And I know that you'll be able to do thisbecause you listen to the show.
When did it is I didn't really ever
know.
Right? Right. My mother did. Right.
I knew of the show,I knew pieces of the show,
and I did
(16:24):
know it was the next day.
Wow. The next day.
The next day it was a five hour show.
A four hour show on Sunday,only breaking for news.
So a talk show.
You didn't have any music to play?Like what?
What were the what I do?
Wow, that's a lot of time to fill in
what I had to talk about
(16:45):
were placesabout businesses that he frequented.
But you didn't know well.
And most of the restaurants to talk about,I'm vegetarian.
There were all steakhouse
places that I would be frequenting,quite frankly.
Yes, yes.
Being the carnivore I am when I walk,I didn't even sleep that night.
(17:08):
I mean, you can imagine. Yeah.
I had like maybe two hours sleep.
And I remember my husband saying to me,how do you get yourself into these.
I said yesbecause I feel compelled to say yes.
But please don't listen because if I know
you're listening,I don't want anyone critiquing me.
I'm not even going to say my name.
(17:31):
And I and I, the whole time you sayyour name, I think I said Joyce, right?
Joyce, in the very beginning,I'm covering the show and,
and my heart
was beating out of my chestwhen the red light went on.
Yeah.
You know, I remember I rememberthe feeling when I first did radio.
(17:51):
I'm like,am I going to have the breath to speak?
Am I going to let this guy down?
I've got five hours to talk, five hours.
And that's insane.
It was. Yeah. So the red light
and, you
know, the producer went like this, right?
And I just started speaking and I said,well, obviously,
(18:14):
you know, I'm not and I'm,you know, and know obviously I'm not.
But you know, we know we're going to havea good time today, you know, right.
Reading through,you know, what is stuff like that.
And I began to feel like I was Cinderella
who found the other shoe in my life.
It was a spirit of ease.
(18:37):
Yeah.
That I realized that
I always love speaking to people.
I am a storytellerand even though I was horrible
for that showbecause I wasn't making sales for them.
Right.
But people were coming in and telling
the people answering phones like, oh,tell her,
(19:00):
to keep talking about those storiesbecause we like to hear it.
I was like, okay, but you know, you're inyour you're in your right place
making money for them, right?
The biggest compliment I got is,
by Sunday,I had to get up and do it again.
And I was really like,oh, you got to do it again
for hours and I'll see you one less hour.
(19:22):
Oh, sour.
But I crawled up.
I'm, I go to bed. Right.
And I saw that my son was calling me
and family I always pick up for.
So I, I picked up this, you know.
Hi, Tim.
And, I said, I'm really, really tired.
(19:42):
You know, I had to work this morning.
That's all I said.
And he said, you know,he said I was sitting
and having a cup of coffeein a parking lot.
I think it was McDonald's.
And he always listened to the show.
Yeah, I didn't know.
And he said, it's so funnybecause the woman that was, there,
(20:05):
I found her so comforting.
And then I realizedthat she reminded me of you.
But then I thought, she was very professional, and you're not.
Oh, geez.
You get a compliment.
And then,
just like a backtrack, never thought of mebeing on the radio right in his head.
Yeah, yeah,
that's all I needed to hear, right?
(20:26):
Me feel like I didn't let peopledown, right?
I didn't care because I loved it,I loved it,
and then after that, I was offered a showfor a couple of years. Wow.
And the one called the Two WiseLadies. Yeah.
But what I'm trying to sayis that came off my imagination.
Like I was doing a soothing, like, salve
(20:48):
on my mindbecause I so just liked where I was going.
And I created this imaginary worldwhile I was driving to and from
and and think, how little kids do thatall the time.
Little kids do that all the time.
They play them and write.
A lot of times they manifest
because they're out there playing,you know, make believe.
And you were doing that make believe,but you were manifesting something. Yes.
(21:11):
It was almost like the laws ofthe universe are saying, choice.
That's for you. Yes. Right.
And that's
that's what I, I started writing this bookabout all those times,
even though they may soundlike insignificant things to you,
it doesn't always have to be the lotterythat you win.
It could be someone shows up.
(21:34):
Someone gives you aa relationship that happened with your
with your husband Wayne,you kind of manifested that I did.
And that's also written about in the book.
Yeah.
That's a that's a very, very special storybecause I loved him before
this was even possible to be with him,
but I never I was I was in his presence
(21:57):
and he was married at the timeand that's all I knew we were in.
I was doing my internship at the BrantfordCounseling Center in our town,
because I just alwayswanted to be a therapist.
And however, on my way to be a therapist,I made a pit stop in radio, and that's,
Yeah, because it helped me.
(22:18):
Okay, sure.
And I needed a therapist at the time,like most people in radio.
Thank you. Joyce.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, those are interesting times.
But it was during that time where I wasI was this intern, you know,
and running a group with no code run.
It wasn't running it.
(22:39):
It was.
I was,
an intern, and it was a group about people
in transition,whether it was jobs or whatever in life.
It was really interesting group.
And she said to me one day,wait till you meet
someone who's joining our group,Wayne Logan and Wayne Logan is fabulous.
(22:59):
And he could actually write a bookabout this, you know?
But, you know, he's joining the group.
So great.
So, you know, I really was looking forwardto meeting him.
And that morning,I broke my foot. Oh, geez.
I picked
up in the closet and something very heavyfell on my foot.
And I went to emergency roomswith the cast of my foot and crutches.
(23:21):
But I something told me I had to gobecause I really wanted to meet Wayne,
not only because he was a new additionto the crew
and was sitting in the group
setting, and he's talking and all that,and I'm just saying,
oh, marvelous man ishis wife is like looking him on earth.
I thought, you know, was in my mind.
(23:43):
And but there's one thing,
when we were in the group,you know, if you in the emergency room.
Right.
You know, like,if you get a hospital bracelet.
Yes. Impossible.
I know, so I wasI had the hospital bracelet on.
I was trying to maneuver it off,you know, kind of, you know, I could see.
Yeah.
And the group leader says, Joyce,you're looking very pensive and
(24:08):
you want to add.
Oh, boy, you'rejust trying to get the bracelet out.
Oh, yeah. My finger or.
No, no, I don't think we don't got caughtunder a little clasp.
Right. And I couldn't dislodge my hand.
So I, you know, I
when I held it upand I said, I'm so sorry, but I'm caught.
(24:29):
Wayne came over, is the only onewho got up, and he knelt in front of me.
And he took the my nail,and he just eased it out,
and I thought, oh,
this guy is so great.
His wife is like,
it's like circulating in the brain, like,yeah, he's a shivery.
And the thing is,you know, like the knight
(24:50):
in shiningarmor, he's been a gentleman in every way.
And he helped me.
You know, evenI was going on a date with someone
he even,you know, helped me with something, right?
And so it was it.
So five yearsafter that, to make the story short, I'm.
This is wife, and I had the opportunityto work with this man
(25:13):
at many of my DJ gigs over the years,and he was a photographer.
He also did some, you know, photoshoots for us, you know, at my house.
And you're right.
I mean, an absolute gentlemanin every way.
And, I love Jimmy Stewartbecause, I don't really.
You shall.
We talkedabout one of my favorite movies. Yes.
He reminded me of right,right as tall and thin.
(25:34):
But he had a demeanor about him.
Just a very kind man. Not judgmental.
When you were around him,you felt like he.
You know,he just, liked you for who you are. Yes.
That's a real gift. You.
You know, I have this daughter in my life,
you know, Denise,she's a wonderful, just wonderful person.
She's like my bonus daughter.
So why don't we hold up your book again?Joyce?
(25:57):
You know, and, when is this goingto be available for everybody to buy?
Time. You see this?
This this will be on Amazon.
And if you get Kindle,just like pennies to get it.
But, I think it will help you.
I think it will helpyou see that it's not as difficult
as it appears to manifest.
(26:17):
The words manifest may seem to be right,
but it starts with the littlethings and then it grows.
But it's every day just to be grateful.
Just to be thankful.
And once those miraclesof little miracle start.
Yeah, they don't stopbecause you keep seeing them.
You can't unsee them.
(26:38):
But give them as much creditas you do as millions of dollars,
because you will have the mindset pieceof that within you.
Yeah, we're all looking for that pieceand grab it and gratitude is riches,
if you think about thateach and every day, just being grateful.
And no matter how tough our lives areand we all have challenges,
(27:00):
each and every one of us is battlingsomething right now.
There's still something to begrateful for.
Yeah, there's a lot more, I think,to be grateful for than than there isn't.
It's all about where you look.
If you turn on the
news, it immediatelysinks your heart to them.
It does.
That's why I say watch the local news,which is great.
Learn what the weather is.
But beyond that, we don't need to knowwhat the whole world is doing.
(27:22):
Right? You can.
We can pray.
We we really can't send our good energyand all of that.
But peace begins in your homeand you have to have that too.
Life is too short not to have it.
That's right.
There's a there's a lot going on, and, there's a there's a lot of good out there.
So just focus on focus on what's good,what's good in your life.
And then that's the name of our show here.
(27:44):
What's good with John and Joyce and,tell your friends about us, please.
You know, let them know about this.
And, we'd love to get your feedbackdown the line.
And thank you so much for for sending.
Yeah, lots of it. And thank you so muchfor watching and listening.
And we wish you the bestfor you and your family.
Bye for now.
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