October 8, 2025 • 30 mins
Join us for a lively show featuring Ron Rondini, a 30-year veteran of the Connecticut theater scene, and Christopher Bethune, director and professional model. Both are key players in Aspen Dreams Productions’ “I Haven’t Got A Clue” — a thrilling whodunnit play happening Halloween night at the beautiful WoodWinds Special Events Venue in Branford, CT.
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Hey, herewe go again. There. Joyce. Henry.
See you again.
So nice to see you. It'snice to see her again.
And John CadillacSeville from iHeart radio.
And just appreciate you guys tuning in towhat's good with John and Joyce.
And it's a real special day to day.Just so much fun.
I mean, just, I wish you could hearsome of the conversations we had off here.
Then again, maybe not.
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But I'd like to introduceour two esteemed guests here.
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Don has been part of the Connecticuttheater.
Don Ron Deanie.
Right. Don, we're talking about your kids.
How amazing they are as well.
But Don has been part of the Connecticuttheater scene for over 30 years,
performing with groups across the state,numerous Neil Simon productions,
including barefoot in the Park,just saw the original a couple nights ago
with Robert Redfordand Jane Fonda was so good.
I love when they go up the stairsand you're out of breath, you know?
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Yeah, you know the oxy blues last of theRed Hot Lovers, prisoner of Second Avenue.
He later joined Aspen Dream Productions,where he was cast as father of Lasky
and their comedy wedding
show For Better or for Worse, a rolehe played for ten years.
And for the past decade, he'staking center stage.
Is Uncle Franco a rolehe calls the highlight of his career?
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Epsilon. Welcome. Thank you. Yes.
And right to your right hand side,we have Christopher Bethune.
Hey, Chris.
Good to see you, buddy. See you as well.
And Christopher, assistant directorat ADP, a professional model.
He is as well with a master's
degree, has worked on stage and filmin both Connecticut in New York at ADP.
Now that's an an acronymfor for Century Dream Productions.
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Just one to make surethat we all knew that to folks,
it was for the audience edification.
I just want to get that clarify right.
But ADP, he was honing his craftas a director of original plays,
using theater as a way to challengeparticipants and help them grow stronger.
Now, his distinctive styleand uncompromising approach has earned him
the admiration and respect of everyoneat ADP, where his charisma
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and he's got charismaon overload continues to inspire Don
Christopher, welcome to
What's Good with John and Joyce,available on all streaming platforms.
Now I can throw this.Thank you. Happy to be here.
I'm at to pay whoever did that by over me.
Oh, that was goodYou wrote that, didn't you? Yeah.
You know, secret secrets.
You know, I got the the pleasureto see so many shows. Yes.
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And did you direct?
Yeah.
Like all the ones that.
Well,I thought it would once in Branford,
so I did directed one at the woodwindsin Branford.
Janice, is she's the,the creator of Asman
Dream Productions, and,we're really under her umbrella, so.
Janice. Louise.
Luckiest.
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Yeah, I know what her resume is amazing.
So she's amazing.
Really amazing.
She has a wonderful eye for talent.
Yeah. Right.
Yes. Oh, yeah.
Wonderful. Yeah. No question.
Yes, it does know.
Hey, it ain't bragging if it's fat.
Yeah, right.
I like I like that, you know, I,I just want to slip in a little story
about Janice because in 2006, Twilight
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movies, Twilight books were very,very big.
That whole vampire series.
And I called her and I said,we're going to do this event here.
By any chance,can you have a couple of actors play
Bella and Edwardand do some scenes throughout it?
And she came down and she lookedat the place and she read the books.
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So there were two out.
She said, let me read them,let me get a feel for this.
And boy, did she pull that off.
It was spectacular. Not easy either.
Not all that wasn't easy, but it was.
It was great.
But, I want to talk about you. Job.
When did you first first fall in lovewith acting, don't you know?
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Well, I got involvedbecause of my nephew, Phillip Vitro.
He was always involved in actingsince he was in middle school.
And he got to the pointwhere he was directing plays for different
theater groups around the state.
And he used to see how dangerous I wasat family gatherings with a microphone.
And yousay, Uncle Dan, you got to try this.
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You got to try this. I don't know.
I had too much time, too.
So anyway, he was directing The Mysteryof Edwin Drood in Clinton,
and somebody backed out
with, like, three weeks before the play,and it was only six lines.
So I said, okay, I'll do it.
Well, in the next three years.
I did nine plays.
In the next five years I did 12 plays.
I really got the bug,but I didn't start till I was 49.
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Yeah, yeah, three years ago.
Almost.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, you I'm talking to you offcamera too.
I mean, you just really havea great personality.
You really have a command of the room.You come in, and he does.
I like both of you.Just the way you communicate.
Sean, wait till you see him.Because I know you're.
I go to the Halloween show.
I. I can't wait on woodwinds.
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And by the way, woodwinds is a sponsorof what's good with John and Joyce.
Thank you. Tony.
Yes, yes.
And, this is the first timethey're doing a Halloween show there.
So we'll have all that information,you know, on there.
But when Don is in character,
I, number one,feel like I have to kiss the ring.
Yeah. And. No, I know, and I'm not kidding.
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I get a little scared to quite youbecause you are in character. Yes.
And you know that you know, it's it'salways fun to play the bad guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every actor relishes that. Don't get.
Yeah, yeah, I really do. Oh, yeah.
Are you going to give us a little hintof, of your character at all?
I mean, I mean, obviously you're not incostume per se, but like, vocal theatrics.
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Well, you know, Chris here, he wasn't too smart.
And his first IQ test came back negative.
His parents knew they had a problem.
That's trying.
He's trying hard to improve himself.
He just completed a very difficultjigsaw puzzle.
Only took them three days.
Yeah, the box said 2 to 3 years,Yeah, yeah, I got it.
I got it.
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Oh, man. That's great.
The other half of that joke,I can't tell.
Okay.
At least not in this podcast. Right?
Because we don't do any editing here.
This is warts and all,and everything is what's good.
So that's good.
We talk or we talk about that.
So, Christopher, I don't thinkI read in the bio I know you did modeling.
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Yeah.
And directing acting so I do I've, I've,I've been acting for over ten years.
I've always desireto share with the world some of my gifts.
And just being under ADP,I got a chance to do that.
Especially when we talk about, you know,the, the show coming up on Halloween,
the interactive, immersive dinner theatershow to where we're always in character.
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So, one thing that I really loveis just being able to
be Uncle Franco's bodyguard.
So my character is moldedMarcello to muscle.
And yes, I have, you know, he's all muscle, no brains. So,
so it's a it's a fun.
It's a fun opportunity.
But, I just love acting, and I feel as if,
you know, we're put on this earthfor a short period of time.
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And while we're here, we have gifts thatwe could share with everyone, you know.
So that is what drew me into acting.
I just love that we talked about thatall the time, though.
We just did a lot there. And bless people.
I love to make people laugh.
Yeah, especially in this world.
Now I live for the exact negativity.
So much to business and I agree,get people to escape for a while.
Like with what's happening at woodwindson Halloween night.
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And the thing is, you say interactive.
So we're sitting there in the audienceenjoying this.
What are we going to expect there?
Well, the the unexpected.
I guess a good answer.
It's show is based, somewhat on the,opening of my nightclub.
My way.
Yeah.
That's why when we come, we come witha DJ and there's dancing and singing.
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It's a full night of entertainment.
The people who come aren'tcoming to see a show, per se.
They're coming to the grand openingof this nightclub. Exactly.
And when we do the wedding show,they're coming to a wedding.
You're guests at a wedding.They're not coming to see a show.
Yeah, and they're treatedas guests at a wedding.
And I owe a lot to woodwindsbecause my daughter
was married therewith 270 people as guests.
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Yeah, yeah,I think I'm still paying for that.
But for us and our DJ business wasthe first DJ business to play woodwinds.
You the the second. Wow.
First or second, when they opened up100 years ago and just I love the place.
I mean,they really know how to do the thing.
You right here and I'mso glad it's going to be at woodwinds.
Yes, I am too because I live a minuteand 37 seconds away.
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Oh, you'rethat's how you live for a while. Yeah.
Because I knowthat our podcast goes global.
So some people want to comein, you know, from Bolivia or or Spain or.
Yeah, you're going to have to get there, you know, travel.
You know, what's so great about,you know, the theater in general
is that when I think of that roomfilled with people, because I'm usually
standing somewhere in the background,kind of overseeing it
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that you're from,the people are from every belief,
whether it's religious or political,whatever.
But they're all having a great timeand they're laughing.
And a lot of times different peoplesit at a table,
they don't know each other,and they get to know each other.
So yeah, it's a beautiful thingthat takes place.
We love to go table to table and conversewith you.
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Yeah. Get them involved with the show.
Yeah.
You know, well, it's an icebreaker too
because so many people gothey're a little bit uptight first.
You know,if they don't know people at that table
and then you go out to the table,people start talking
and they find something, a point ofinterest and bam, you off to the races.
And one of the great thingsis that each of our actors, who they come
with a background story, you know,everyone has some kind of relationship
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with Franco,whether you love them or hate them.
You know, especially with this showthat we're doing.
I haven't got a clue.
It's a it's another murder mystery show.
So with that being said, you never know.
It's a Halloween whodunit.So who who did it?
You have so many people who are here that,
oh has a have a relationship with Franco.
Why would they want Franco dead?
So, you know, when when we do the immerseand like being immersed in it
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or that portion of it, peopleare like wearing character from
I would say probably of the show starsEssex Warren character star in that,
you know, to an afternoon, you knowand we're going through our run through.
We're preparing, you know,we're making sure that we're sharp
because you guys deserve a show in which,you know, we're not going to have,
you know, we're not goingto, you know, give you half of it.
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You know, we're going to give you our allevery time.
I love the way you say thatbecause people are working hard.
Yeah.
Your money is too much monthat the end of the money.
Yeah. Somebody takes holidays, right.
And they go out thereand they're going to get a show. Yes.
Do you get their entertainment business?
We leave our own, feelings aside,if we're having a really bad day,
exact people are going to entertainersfor escapism.
Yeah. And you keep that in mind.
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And I love what you said right there.
It's all about the people in the seats.It is?
Yeah it is.
Janice has gottensome really incredible letters
from peoplewho have come to our shows. Yeah.
And thanked usfor actually resurrecting them.
Back to the world of happiness.
Let me resurrect you.
Yeah, yeah,I remember I had, we had a show to where,
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Uncle Franco, a mode of muscle dancewith this lady at the,
It was a, senior living facilitythat we had.
Did a show at, and she came up to usafter the show was over.
She said this was the first timeI had danced since my.
Since my husband passed away.
Yeah, yeah, she actually actually startedcrying when we were dancing.
Yeah.
She said this is the first time she danced
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with anyonesince her husband passed away. Yeah.
First time she ever danced. Anyoneother than that in her house?
Other than her house?
Probably saying yourself,this is why we do what we did
today is actually pretty memories.
Exactly. Yes, yes.
You know, we're not all thethere's such a big genre of actors around
and if someone's at like a HarrisonFord level,
you know, he can't reach the peoplelike you're reaching them now.
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Yeah.
So it's all meant to be.
You don't.
But when you talked about.
I haven't got a clue.
Does that meanone of us could be the killer?
Don't worry.
Anybody at any time. You never know. Or.
And my wife might say after she's watchingthis. Haven't got a clue.
You go. That's your theme.
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No, I right,
well, definitely.
Guys is coming
on. The show is right for you.
It was for me.
Yeah, it's is for all of us.
But. But
do you decide who you as the director,
are you deciding who the murdereris going to be at each one that you do?
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So as as one of the directors,
what we do is we.
To be continued.
Oh, oh, oh, so you have to come.
We have to see. That's it. Oh.
And then, Yeah.
And you have to pay attentionbecause there's going to be times
where you could take pictures
and text it to, to a phone numberabout who you think the murderer is.
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And, you know,we're just going to be put clues together.
So it's going to be an amazing time, let'ssay cable TV series about the murderer.
So it's Steve Martin,a murderer in the building.
Yeah. That's serious. Yeah.
I love true crime.
I don't know what's wrong with me,
but I do hear that a lot of womenlove it for some reason.
48 hours,you know, the 20, 20, all of that.
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I love to see the peoplein the interrogation room.
Especially when, you know they're lying.
Yeah, and I like to watch their bodylanguage and and all of that. So.
So that means you might be ableto find out who the killer is.
Maybe. Yeah. That's what you good.
You have to watch the body languageyou're thinking.
You have to watch the conversations,their interactions.
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Yeah.
That's true, because, you know, when you,I find myself doing that a lot, too.
You watch people, their bodylanguage, their eye contact, and,
like, you know,
especially with the entertainmentbusiness, you're
keeping an eye on whether they're engagedor not. Sometime.
Very true. Yeah.
But then when you get a realsmart director
and you watch, like a movie movieabout a whodunit, right.
And it's usually the person you leastsuspect, right?
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It's all those little plot twists.
Yes, very, very much so. Right.
Yeah.
So who's what are you watching on TVto watch crime dramas.
Do you like the.
The most recent seriesI've been watching is, Black.
Black Rabbit,Black Rabbit and love Black Rabbit,
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black white, matte
black mirror.
It's a nightmare.
Is it okay? It's fine. It's.
Go on.
Yeah, well, I do now,but when you brought up Black Nancy
and some sort that I heard.That's amazing. No.
And I think I shared with you that what?
As I was watching it because JudeLaw plays someone so different.
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Yeah, yeah. You know, black wolves.
I've been watching Black Wolves.
I've heard about that one too.
But when I watch those, what's his name?
Bateman.
Jason Bateman, he's he's ju law.
Oh, my God, his voice.
You're so much fun to watch.
Yeah, there's enough of that.
Another movie to where he was,
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he was trying to do a terrorist attackin the airport.
Yes. And to.And I don't remember the nerve racking.
Yeah, yeah. Role reversal.
Yeah.
And so I say this is Jason Batemanbecause, you know, he could do comedy.
He could do anything.
He could do anything.So that's a true actor.
But going back to what
we brought up, what you broughtup, Don is playing the bad guy.
So what I could feel in watching thatwhen I say it's fun to watch,
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I mean, there's a lot of stuffthat goes on that's not fun to watch,
but they're acting was superband I thought they must be having a blast.
You know, playingthat's especially like Jason Bateman
not yeah.
You don't you don't hear him playingbut you don't ever know.
Oh yeah. Not at all. Yeah.
I tell you, my favorite seriesof all times that I watched is Deadwood.
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Ian McShane.
He is.
He was just fantastic.
Oh, yeah. He's a wonderful actor.
I watch the whole series twice.It was really good. Yeah, yeah.
Are you find certain ones?
I mean, I always I'm alwayslooking for something new all the time.
I want something new to get things going.
But there's nothing like the classicswhen you go back.
Yeah, you know the one.
I'm almost embarrassed to sayhow many times I watched the whole series,
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and it surprised me how much they lovedit was Breaking Bad.
Oh, yeah, that was, I mean, brilliant.
I mean, it was even the camera angles.
Yeah,you know, the aggressive at the time.
Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
That's right.
It shows his age a little now with thelittle flip phones and everything.
But I would watch it again.
But he's the actor.
He's funny Brian Bryan Cranston.
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Yeah the boy did he.
You could do anythingif you want to do that.
And yeah I never really heard of himbefore Breaking bad.
Yeah, I know he's been around for a while.
He was on a comedy seriesthat's now the name of it, but I loved it.
Now he seems like he's in somethingevery year and he's terrific.
It's been going place,and you reach a certain age at that point
where they become character actorsand they.
And they're having more fun nowbecause the movie's success
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doesn't depend on their name anymore.
Yeah,they just go out there and have a blast.
And when you see him on a talkshow, he's the funny, funniest guy
you would never think that he was.
What was the his Heisman?
Eisenberg. Heisenberg. Yeah.
He said, or when he says to, his wife wasafraid, you know, that this or that.
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And he said,I am the person that comes to the house.
I am the person people are. Great.
Right? Right. Great. Just great line.
See, people remember the lines you say,but you're also a creative director.
A creative director.
Yes, I, I wrote a few small parts.
In the wedding show,
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in the, murder mystery show.
Mystery here.
I'm pretty good at words.
Yeah.
Sometimes they're not, very good
for publication, but for the show,we're doing so far here, no edits.
Yeah, it shows that they openthat in pretty good.
Yeah.
That's.
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Well, Janice will say to me, come up withsomething for this scene and, Yeah, okay.
And I like doing that, I enjoy that.
So who comes up? I'm sorry.
Oh, you know, it's just one who comes up,like with a new show like Jim. So.
Janice.
Yes, yes.
And this is rightnow, in between everything she is.
Yeah. So she writes all of the scripts.
And what I happen is behind the scenes,Janice
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will send it out to her,for lack of a better word.
Executive team.
And we're review the scripts,and if there's anything out there,
we have updates or, you know, things that,we suggest, you know, creative edits,
we'll we'll give it to herand, you know, show added to the script
and she's always open for suggestions.
Oh, always open. Yeah, yeah.
And then she also wants towhile we have the script, she also wants,
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our creatives,you know, I, you know, we have actors,
but then we also have creatives,you know, and we want
and we want peopleto be as creative as possible.
So when you become a creativeand you're embodying this character,
you have to be able to creatively speakabout how a character
would deliver the lines.
That's why there's no such thingas a small role or a small throwaway line.
So there's certain artistic license hereto a point to it.
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They let you kind of take that because,
I mean, I've done a lot of theater myselfin the past.
And, Joyce,you may have done the same thing.
And the directors saywhen you know the end.
Yeah, from the beginning,you know how to get there.
And there's different ways to get there.
Yeah, I guess it depends on the director,
but I work with some really,really good directors
in the past who said, you know, the linesand if you need to take a different way
of getting there,as long as the other person knows.
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Yeah, that's the key.
That trust in each other.
Yeah. So, I learned under Reno van.
Terry, I'm not sure if you guys have,heard of Reno Venter,
but he's he's one of my mentors.
And I took classes at the actor's gym.
And one thing that I really
that Ireally value about him and about his way,
his creative way of teachingis he talks about the
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and the emotional journeythat we go through as actors.
So even in this, you know, the play ofI Haven't Got
the Clue, each character is going throughan a, an emotional journey.
Now, while this is a, you know, a forestor, you know, this kind of a comedic
kind of, style of, of, of theater, buteach character has an emotional journey.
And depending on the emotionthat the lines
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that are resonating with you,that's how you deliver it.
So in rehearsal yesterday,
we were talking about, you know, differentaspects of of the show.
Some aspects are comedic,some aspects are scary.
It is a Halloween show.
So it's all about what is your characterfeeling at that time.
And if you're feeling this levelof feeling or this level of emotion,
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how do you deliver the line to make ittrue and authentic to your character?
And that'swhat resonates with our audience.
So you're really out of characterbecause you sound very intelligent, right?
Mo the muscle zing.
Oh, so so So,
what I meant was, you know, right now,sometimes we just do it.
Uncle Franco in his place.
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Now, when you do live theater two,anything could happen as well.
Yeah.
Have you ever seen anything where peoplehave, like, had a brain freeze or.
Oh, I have done it many times.
Yeah, yeah.
I was doing a playcalled the Night of January 16th.
It's, an ran play,and the whole, plays a, trial.
And I was a defense attorney,and we went through 20 rehearsals
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and seven performances,and we're doing the last performance.
And, you know, at the end of the trial,you deliver your your final speech
to the jury,and I'm walking back and forth
doing my speech, and all of a suddenI got nothing.
I got nothing.
I could feel the blood rushing to my head.Yep, yep.
And finally, the girl who was on trial,she yells out something.
It just brings it back. Yeah.
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Those 10s therewhere I'm walking back and forth saying,
now, how can I explain this to you?
But I had nothing.
Yeah.
Are you saying, please, someonetell me how I can explain this to you?
It always works out.Oh, as it works out. Yeah.
Oh, you get that little gap,you know, I was, doing a play,
I, you know, sometimes you jump a line,you jump
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a couple of lines,I jump three pages long.
I hit the end.
They said to the directorI thought it was moving kind of slow.
Speed it up a little bit.
What about you, Chris?Is that happened to you?
Or something similar.
You know what? So
I'm one of those weird people that I.
I transition to acting after doing sports.
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So I play basketball, football, soccer,track and field.
So the the biggest rush that I get now in
my adultlife is from theater or from acting.
So for me, it's
I love it so much that like,I embrace the opportunity to do it.
So, I just let it flow naturally.
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And then if there is a timeswhere, you know,
maybe there is a curveballthat's thrown at me,
I really utilize improvto make sure that I,
I may go around, butI always get back to where I need to be.
Right?
So while that hasn't happened to me yet,knock on wood,
you know, if it does, I you know,
I think that's just another opportunityto lean on the improv skills.
You know, the opportunity to go exactlythe love that you're looking at.
(23:31):
Obstacles are opportunities. Yes.
Yes, Jon, I would say those improv skills,after so many years of doing it
that you would be comfortable, like,if you mess up,
I know I'll just say whatever,I can bring it back.
You can always bring it back.
Yeah.
I like to say as long as you know the end.
Yeah. The end isyou have all different ways to get there.
And I have the improv at the tableswith the people.
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You know, I'm looking forward to that.Yeah.
When I was the Irish priest.
Oh, I yeah, I find the most timidlooking person at the table and say,
oh, father wants to hear thisone's confession.
She looks like she's got a bit ofthe devil in her. Oh, no. No.
They always pick the most timidlooking for.
Sure, sure. Yeah.
And I guess the best responsefrom the audience to.
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Yeah, yeah.
And but I'm playing the priest.
When I was playing the priest,
every show, somebody would say, father,would you hear my confession?
You know, and I'd say, oh, Jesus,we only got an hour and a half.
I don't think you get all in. Oh.
All right, well, I tell you, whereveryou're a priest, I'm going to services,
okay?
Or did you imagine Joe Quaalude on there?
So that is all improvwhen you're walking around the tables.
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Well, well, not not necessarily 100%. Rob.
So what we do is we have a back story
and how we communicatethat back story is through our improv.
Yeah. So that's that's where I would saythe improv comes in it.
Wow. Yeah.
So you're directingbut you're acting in this one also.
Yes, I am. Okay.
I always admire that.
You know, when you say directed byand the person starring are there
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and they're the twobecause that's it's a lot more work.
I mean,how do you direct yourself sometimes?
I think that it's just being honestwith myself and being open, you know?
And the great thing is that we always havea genius at all of our rehearsals.
I oh, Janis is always,you know, provided her input, you know,
providing her a redirection,even for someone like me.
Yeah.
I may be one of the directors, but she'salso like, I work with her so, so close.
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Or hand the hand
that, you know, I'll try certain thingsto see fit, to see how it fits, you know?
So I'm not afraid toto give her something that she says.
You know what, Chris?
This doesn't work, you know, so that's,
you know, so let's try anotheranother avenue now my okay Janice.
And that just getsmy creative juices flowing.
Because if I do one, if I do a sceneone way and she's like, it doesn't work.
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And you know what?Maybe I could do it this way.
Or maybe I could just add this to itto make it work.
Or if I if I'm really strong in it as Iif it didn't work,
how can I make it workby going to Uncle Franco and asking him.
Yes. Right. Hey,
Franco, what do you think?
But it really is about humility, isn't it?
You really have to have you military.
So I think humilityis an overrated virtue.
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So I said this about humility.
Being an actoris one of the most humbling things
that you could be in this world.
And the reason being is you are timeand time again, sharing your gifts
with people who may connect with it
or they may not, you know,and if people don't, you know,
we've all seen movies that we say,oh, the acting, the hair is horrible.
(26:26):
But if we allow that to really, determine
if we continue to pursue this, there's,you know, this course of acting, then,
you know, a lot of usprobably won't be acting.
It takes a lot of courage,you know, to be a comedian.
I see comedians up there.How many times they'd have to fail.
You know what?
The times that they go out thereand nobody laughs, right? Yeah.
And that takes a lot of gutsto go back out there and do it again
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because you're,
you're out therebasically pouring your heart out
and you're out there by yourselfon a stage.
It's almost like being,you know, naked in a sense.
Yeah, I can do this every day of the week.
I could never do stand up. No, never.
No, no, I mean it because it's differentis, is is one thing for me
to say something that, thatyou guys don't expect and laugh at it,
but it's asomething totally different to say okay.
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Make me laugh.
Big difference to what I just see on TV.
Tim, the comedianTim Allen, Tim Allen said the first time
he was on a Johnny Carson show,he bombed so bad
that even Johnny told him he did.
And, but he already he was already acting
(27:31):
and he wanted to do the his standup.
Yeah. So this is what I do. Yeah.
But when he walked out to that stage
with that many people looking at himand it was a whole different ambiance
going to it, NBC production, he froze.
He I mean, you see the camera'slooking at you.
You think? Yeah, Johnny Carson.
(27:52):
Yeah, yeah.
But the big thing ishe brought him back to do it again.
Yeah. And I guess when.
What is that saying?
When you fall off the horse,get back on it. Yeah.
And some people don't, you know, and theymay have regrets that they didn't do it.
Yeah. My dad was really good about that.
If I fell off,he made me get right back up again.
He was top, top military guy.
Yeah. Right back up again.
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Yeah.
My father was tough.
Yeah, yeah, my father was an iron worker.
Oh, okay.
And, I used to work with himin the summer as well as going to school.
And one day I got knocked out on the job,and he came over.
I was laying on the groundand he says, get up.
You can't sleep here.
How did you get hurt?
Are you all right?
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Man. But this is going to be a great show.
So, Joyce, you want to kind of like, Yeah.What was this out?
It's coming up on valiantand knock out Halloween.
You might do a Valentine show.
No, no, never. I never know. Halloween.
I if you go to the woodwinds.com,you can get your tickets
or read all about itbecause the food list is simply amazing.
Oh, yeah. Right.
It has silvio's famous sauce.There are woodwinds too.
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You got to pick up some
that they all they it'son a lot of the dishes that they make.
But I mean there's 15 signaturehot pass orders.
There's a first course.
Second course on it.
Yeah. You're you eat a lot at woodlands.
But this is the first timethey're doing this this particular show.
Yeah.
They've had Aspen dreams come ona few times because we we love them there.
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The acting is superb.
Thank you.
And we love you.
Oh, we love you. Present there, Uncle Dan.
And I was so good to see you guys.But we'll see you on Halloween night.
And tickets are still available for this.Yes. Yeah.
So she just started telling people,oh, it's the time of broadcast.
As we say.
Get your tickets. Beat the mob.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
John Cadillac Seville from iHeart radio.
(29:41):
Joyce Logan, my friend and colleague here.
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Maybe, you know, blessyou and your family.
Bye for now. Thank you.
Hey, herewe go again. There. Joyce. Henry.
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So nice to see you. It'snice to see her again.
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Then again, maybe not.
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But I'd like to introduceour two esteemed guests here.
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Don has been part of the Connecticuttheater.
Don Ron Deanie.
Right. Don, we're talking about your kids.
How amazing they are as well.
But Don has been part of the Connecticuttheater scene for over 30 years,
performing with groups across the state,numerous Neil Simon productions,
including barefoot in the Park,just saw the original a couple nights ago
with Robert Redfordand Jane Fonda was so good.
I love when they go up the stairsand you're out of breath, you know?
(01:26):
Yeah, you know the oxy blues last of theRed Hot Lovers, prisoner of Second Avenue.
He later joined Aspen Dream Productions,where he was cast as father of Lasky
and their comedy wedding
show For Better or for Worse, a rolehe played for ten years.
And for the past decade, he'staking center stage.
Is Uncle Franco a rolehe calls the highlight of his career?
(01:48):
Epsilon. Welcome. Thank you. Yes.
And right to your right hand side,we have Christopher Bethune.
Hey, Chris.
Good to see you, buddy. See you as well.
And Christopher, assistant directorat ADP, a professional model.
He is as well with a master's
degree, has worked on stage and filmin both Connecticut in New York at ADP.
Now that's an an acronymfor for Century Dream Productions.
(02:09):
Just one to make surethat we all knew that to folks,
it was for the audience edification.
I just want to get that clarify right.
But ADP, he was honing his craftas a director of original plays,
using theater as a way to challengeparticipants and help them grow stronger.
Now, his distinctive styleand uncompromising approach has earned him
the admiration and respect of everyoneat ADP, where his charisma
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and he's got charismaon overload continues to inspire Don
Christopher, welcome to
What's Good with John and Joyce,available on all streaming platforms.
Now I can throw this.Thank you. Happy to be here.
I'm at to pay whoever did that by over me.
Oh, that was goodYou wrote that, didn't you? Yeah.
You know, secret secrets.
You know, I got the the pleasureto see so many shows. Yes.
(02:57):
And did you direct?
Yeah.
Like all the ones that.
Well,I thought it would once in Branford,
so I did directed one at the woodwindsin Branford.
Janice, is she's the,the creator of Asman
Dream Productions, and,we're really under her umbrella, so.
Janice. Louise.
Luckiest.
(03:17):
Yeah, I know what her resume is amazing.
So she's amazing.
Really amazing.
She has a wonderful eye for talent.
Yeah. Right.
Yes. Oh, yeah.
Wonderful. Yeah. No question.
Yes, it does know.
Hey, it ain't bragging if it's fat.
Yeah, right.
I like I like that, you know, I,I just want to slip in a little story
about Janice because in 2006, Twilight
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movies, Twilight books were very,very big.
That whole vampire series.
And I called her and I said,we're going to do this event here.
By any chance,can you have a couple of actors play
Bella and Edwardand do some scenes throughout it?
And she came down and she lookedat the place and she read the books.
(04:06):
So there were two out.
She said, let me read them,let me get a feel for this.
And boy, did she pull that off.
It was spectacular. Not easy either.
Not all that wasn't easy, but it was.
It was great.
But, I want to talk about you. Job.
When did you first first fall in lovewith acting, don't you know?
(04:29):
Well, I got involvedbecause of my nephew, Phillip Vitro.
He was always involved in actingsince he was in middle school.
And he got to the pointwhere he was directing plays for different
theater groups around the state.
And he used to see how dangerous I wasat family gatherings with a microphone.
And yousay, Uncle Dan, you got to try this.
(04:51):
You got to try this. I don't know.
I had too much time, too.
So anyway, he was directing The Mysteryof Edwin Drood in Clinton,
and somebody backed out
with, like, three weeks before the play,and it was only six lines.
So I said, okay, I'll do it.
Well, in the next three years.
I did nine plays.
In the next five years I did 12 plays.
I really got the bug,but I didn't start till I was 49.
(05:13):
Yeah, yeah, three years ago.
Almost.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I mean, you I'm talking to you offcamera too.
I mean, you just really havea great personality.
You really have a command of the room.You come in, and he does.
I like both of you.Just the way you communicate.
Sean, wait till you see him.Because I know you're.
I go to the Halloween show.
I. I can't wait on woodwinds.
(05:33):
And by the way, woodwinds is a sponsorof what's good with John and Joyce.
Thank you. Tony.
Yes, yes.
And, this is the first timethey're doing a Halloween show there.
So we'll have all that information,you know, on there.
But when Don is in character,
I, number one,feel like I have to kiss the ring.
Yeah. And. No, I know, and I'm not kidding.
(05:54):
I get a little scared to quite youbecause you are in character. Yes.
And you know that you know, it's it'salways fun to play the bad guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every actor relishes that. Don't get.
Yeah, yeah, I really do. Oh, yeah.
Are you going to give us a little hintof, of your character at all?
I mean, I mean, obviously you're not incostume per se, but like, vocal theatrics.
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Well, you know, Chris here, he wasn't too smart.
And his first IQ test came back negative.
His parents knew they had a problem.
That's trying.
He's trying hard to improve himself.
He just completed a very difficultjigsaw puzzle.
Only took them three days.
Yeah, the box said 2 to 3 years,Yeah, yeah, I got it.
I got it.
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Oh, man. That's great.
The other half of that joke,I can't tell.
Okay.
At least not in this podcast. Right?
Because we don't do any editing here.
This is warts and all,and everything is what's good.
So that's good.
We talk or we talk about that.
So, Christopher, I don't thinkI read in the bio I know you did modeling.
(06:57):
Yeah.
And directing acting so I do I've, I've,I've been acting for over ten years.
I've always desireto share with the world some of my gifts.
And just being under ADP,I got a chance to do that.
Especially when we talk about, you know,the, the show coming up on Halloween,
the interactive, immersive dinner theatershow to where we're always in character.
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So, one thing that I really loveis just being able to
be Uncle Franco's bodyguard.
So my character is moldedMarcello to muscle.
And yes, I have, you know, he's all muscle, no brains. So,
so it's a it's a fun.
It's a fun opportunity.
But, I just love acting, and I feel as if,
you know, we're put on this earthfor a short period of time.
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And while we're here, we have gifts thatwe could share with everyone, you know.
So that is what drew me into acting.
I just love that we talked about thatall the time, though.
We just did a lot there. And bless people.
I love to make people laugh.
Yeah, especially in this world.
Now I live for the exact negativity.
So much to business and I agree,get people to escape for a while.
Like with what's happening at woodwindson Halloween night.
(08:02):
And the thing is, you say interactive.
So we're sitting there in the audienceenjoying this.
What are we going to expect there?
Well, the the unexpected.
I guess a good answer.
It's show is based, somewhat on the,opening of my nightclub.
My way.
Yeah.
That's why when we come, we come witha DJ and there's dancing and singing.
(08:23):
It's a full night of entertainment.
The people who come aren'tcoming to see a show, per se.
They're coming to the grand openingof this nightclub. Exactly.
And when we do the wedding show,they're coming to a wedding.
You're guests at a wedding.They're not coming to see a show.
Yeah, and they're treatedas guests at a wedding.
And I owe a lot to woodwindsbecause my daughter
was married therewith 270 people as guests.
(08:45):
Yeah, yeah,I think I'm still paying for that.
But for us and our DJ business wasthe first DJ business to play woodwinds.
You the the second. Wow.
First or second, when they opened up100 years ago and just I love the place.
I mean,they really know how to do the thing.
You right here and I'mso glad it's going to be at woodwinds.
Yes, I am too because I live a minuteand 37 seconds away.
(09:06):
Oh, you'rethat's how you live for a while. Yeah.
Because I knowthat our podcast goes global.
So some people want to comein, you know, from Bolivia or or Spain or.
Yeah, you're going to have to get there, you know, travel.
You know, what's so great about,you know, the theater in general
is that when I think of that roomfilled with people, because I'm usually
standing somewhere in the background,kind of overseeing it
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that you're from,the people are from every belief,
whether it's religious or political,whatever.
But they're all having a great timeand they're laughing.
And a lot of times different peoplesit at a table,
they don't know each other,and they get to know each other.
So yeah, it's a beautiful thingthat takes place.
We love to go table to table and conversewith you.
(09:50):
Yeah. Get them involved with the show.
Yeah.
You know, well, it's an icebreaker too
because so many people gothey're a little bit uptight first.
You know,if they don't know people at that table
and then you go out to the table,people start talking
and they find something, a point ofinterest and bam, you off to the races.
And one of the great thingsis that each of our actors, who they come
with a background story, you know,everyone has some kind of relationship
(10:13):
with Franco,whether you love them or hate them.
You know, especially with this showthat we're doing.
I haven't got a clue.
It's a it's another murder mystery show.
So with that being said, you never know.
It's a Halloween whodunit.So who who did it?
You have so many people who are here that,
oh has a have a relationship with Franco.
Why would they want Franco dead?
So, you know, when when we do the immerseand like being immersed in it
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or that portion of it, peopleare like wearing character from
I would say probably of the show starsEssex Warren character star in that,
you know, to an afternoon, you knowand we're going through our run through.
We're preparing, you know,we're making sure that we're sharp
because you guys deserve a show in which,you know, we're not going to have,
you know, we're not goingto, you know, give you half of it.
(10:55):
You know, we're going to give you our allevery time.
I love the way you say thatbecause people are working hard.
Yeah.
Your money is too much monthat the end of the money.
Yeah. Somebody takes holidays, right.
And they go out thereand they're going to get a show. Yes.
Do you get their entertainment business?
We leave our own, feelings aside,if we're having a really bad day,
exact people are going to entertainersfor escapism.
Yeah. And you keep that in mind.
(11:16):
And I love what you said right there.
It's all about the people in the seats.It is?
Yeah it is.
Janice has gottensome really incredible letters
from peoplewho have come to our shows. Yeah.
And thanked usfor actually resurrecting them.
Back to the world of happiness.
Let me resurrect you.
Yeah, yeah,I remember I had, we had a show to where,
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Uncle Franco, a mode of muscle dancewith this lady at the,
It was a, senior living facilitythat we had.
Did a show at, and she came up to usafter the show was over.
She said this was the first timeI had danced since my.
Since my husband passed away.
Yeah, yeah, she actually actually startedcrying when we were dancing.
Yeah.
She said this is the first time she danced
(12:00):
with anyonesince her husband passed away. Yeah.
First time she ever danced. Anyoneother than that in her house?
Other than her house?
Probably saying yourself,this is why we do what we did
today is actually pretty memories.
Exactly. Yes, yes.
You know, we're not all thethere's such a big genre of actors around
and if someone's at like a HarrisonFord level,
you know, he can't reach the peoplelike you're reaching them now.
(12:23):
Yeah.
So it's all meant to be.
You don't.
But when you talked about.
I haven't got a clue.
Does that meanone of us could be the killer?
Don't worry.
Anybody at any time. You never know. Or.
And my wife might say after she's watchingthis. Haven't got a clue.
You go. That's your theme.
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No, I right,
well, definitely.
Guys is coming
on. The show is right for you.
It was for me.
Yeah, it's is for all of us.
But. But
do you decide who you as the director,
are you deciding who the murdereris going to be at each one that you do?
(13:04):
So as as one of the directors,
what we do is we.
To be continued.
Oh, oh, oh, so you have to come.
We have to see. That's it. Oh.
And then, Yeah.
And you have to pay attentionbecause there's going to be times
where you could take pictures
and text it to, to a phone numberabout who you think the murderer is.
(13:25):
And, you know,we're just going to be put clues together.
So it's going to be an amazing time, let'ssay cable TV series about the murderer.
So it's Steve Martin,a murderer in the building.
Yeah. That's serious. Yeah.
I love true crime.
I don't know what's wrong with me,
but I do hear that a lot of womenlove it for some reason.
48 hours,you know, the 20, 20, all of that.
(13:48):
I love to see the peoplein the interrogation room.
Especially when, you know they're lying.
Yeah, and I like to watch their bodylanguage and and all of that. So.
So that means you might be ableto find out who the killer is.
Maybe. Yeah. That's what you good.
You have to watch the body languageyou're thinking.
You have to watch the conversations,their interactions.
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Yeah.
That's true, because, you know, when you,I find myself doing that a lot, too.
You watch people, their bodylanguage, their eye contact, and,
like, you know,
especially with the entertainmentbusiness, you're
keeping an eye on whether they're engagedor not. Sometime.
Very true. Yeah.
But then when you get a realsmart director
and you watch, like a movie movieabout a whodunit, right.
And it's usually the person you leastsuspect, right?
(14:34):
It's all those little plot twists.
Yes, very, very much so. Right.
Yeah.
So who's what are you watching on TVto watch crime dramas.
Do you like the.
The most recent seriesI've been watching is, Black.
Black Rabbit,Black Rabbit and love Black Rabbit,
(14:54):
black white, matte
black mirror.
It's a nightmare.
Is it okay? It's fine. It's.
Go on.
Yeah, well, I do now,but when you brought up Black Nancy
and some sort that I heard.That's amazing. No.
And I think I shared with you that what?
As I was watching it because JudeLaw plays someone so different.
(15:16):
Yeah, yeah. You know, black wolves.
I've been watching Black Wolves.
I've heard about that one too.
But when I watch those, what's his name?
Bateman.
Jason Bateman, he's he's ju law.
Oh, my God, his voice.
You're so much fun to watch.
Yeah, there's enough of that.
Another movie to where he was,
(15:36):
he was trying to do a terrorist attackin the airport.
Yes. And to.And I don't remember the nerve racking.
Yeah, yeah. Role reversal.
Yeah.
And so I say this is Jason Batemanbecause, you know, he could do comedy.
He could do anything.
He could do anything.So that's a true actor.
But going back to what
we brought up, what you broughtup, Don is playing the bad guy.
So what I could feel in watching thatwhen I say it's fun to watch,
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I mean, there's a lot of stuffthat goes on that's not fun to watch,
but they're acting was superband I thought they must be having a blast.
You know, playingthat's especially like Jason Bateman
not yeah.
You don't you don't hear him playingbut you don't ever know.
Oh yeah. Not at all. Yeah.
I tell you, my favorite seriesof all times that I watched is Deadwood.
(16:24):
Ian McShane.
He is.
He was just fantastic.
Oh, yeah. He's a wonderful actor.
I watch the whole series twice.It was really good. Yeah, yeah.
Are you find certain ones?
I mean, I always I'm alwayslooking for something new all the time.
I want something new to get things going.
But there's nothing like the classicswhen you go back.
Yeah, you know the one.
I'm almost embarrassed to sayhow many times I watched the whole series,
(16:44):
and it surprised me how much they lovedit was Breaking Bad.
Oh, yeah, that was, I mean, brilliant.
I mean, it was even the camera angles.
Yeah,you know, the aggressive at the time.
Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
That's right.
It shows his age a little now with thelittle flip phones and everything.
But I would watch it again.
But he's the actor.
He's funny Brian Bryan Cranston.
(17:05):
Yeah the boy did he.
You could do anythingif you want to do that.
And yeah I never really heard of himbefore Breaking bad.
Yeah, I know he's been around for a while.
He was on a comedy seriesthat's now the name of it, but I loved it.
Now he seems like he's in somethingevery year and he's terrific.
It's been going place,and you reach a certain age at that point
where they become character actorsand they.
And they're having more fun nowbecause the movie's success
(17:26):
doesn't depend on their name anymore.
Yeah,they just go out there and have a blast.
And when you see him on a talkshow, he's the funny, funniest guy
you would never think that he was.
What was the his Heisman?
Eisenberg. Heisenberg. Yeah.
He said, or when he says to, his wife wasafraid, you know, that this or that.
(17:47):
And he said,I am the person that comes to the house.
I am the person people are. Great.
Right? Right. Great. Just great line.
See, people remember the lines you say,but you're also a creative director.
A creative director.
Yes, I, I wrote a few small parts.
In the wedding show,
(18:09):
in the, murder mystery show.
Mystery here.
I'm pretty good at words.
Yeah.
Sometimes they're not, very good
for publication, but for the show,we're doing so far here, no edits.
Yeah, it shows that they openthat in pretty good.
Yeah.
That's.
(18:29):
Well, Janice will say to me, come up withsomething for this scene and, Yeah, okay.
And I like doing that, I enjoy that.
So who comes up? I'm sorry.
Oh, you know, it's just one who comes up,like with a new show like Jim. So.
Janice.
Yes, yes.
And this is rightnow, in between everything she is.
Yeah. So she writes all of the scripts.
And what I happen is behind the scenes,Janice
(18:52):
will send it out to her,for lack of a better word.
Executive team.
And we're review the scripts,and if there's anything out there,
we have updates or, you know, things that,we suggest, you know, creative edits,
we'll we'll give it to herand, you know, show added to the script
and she's always open for suggestions.
Oh, always open. Yeah, yeah.
And then she also wants towhile we have the script, she also wants,
(19:16):
our creatives,you know, I, you know, we have actors,
but then we also have creatives,you know, and we want
and we want peopleto be as creative as possible.
So when you become a creativeand you're embodying this character,
you have to be able to creatively speakabout how a character
would deliver the lines.
That's why there's no such thingas a small role or a small throwaway line.
So there's certain artistic license hereto a point to it.
(19:37):
They let you kind of take that because,
I mean, I've done a lot of theater myselfin the past.
And, Joyce,you may have done the same thing.
And the directors saywhen you know the end.
Yeah, from the beginning,you know how to get there.
And there's different ways to get there.
Yeah, I guess it depends on the director,
but I work with some really,really good directors
in the past who said, you know, the linesand if you need to take a different way
of getting there,as long as the other person knows.
(19:57):
Yeah, that's the key.
That trust in each other.
Yeah. So, I learned under Reno van.
Terry, I'm not sure if you guys have,heard of Reno Venter,
but he's he's one of my mentors.
And I took classes at the actor's gym.
And one thing that I really
that Ireally value about him and about his way,
his creative way of teachingis he talks about the
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and the emotional journeythat we go through as actors.
So even in this, you know, the play ofI Haven't Got
the Clue, each character is going throughan a, an emotional journey.
Now, while this is a, you know, a forestor, you know, this kind of a comedic
kind of, style of, of, of theater, buteach character has an emotional journey.
And depending on the emotionthat the lines
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that are resonating with you,that's how you deliver it.
So in rehearsal yesterday,
we were talking about, you know, differentaspects of of the show.
Some aspects are comedic,some aspects are scary.
It is a Halloween show.
So it's all about what is your characterfeeling at that time.
And if you're feeling this levelof feeling or this level of emotion,
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how do you deliver the line to make ittrue and authentic to your character?
And that'swhat resonates with our audience.
So you're really out of characterbecause you sound very intelligent, right?
Mo the muscle zing.
Oh, so so So,
what I meant was, you know, right now,sometimes we just do it.
Uncle Franco in his place.
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Now, when you do live theater two,anything could happen as well.
Yeah.
Have you ever seen anything where peoplehave, like, had a brain freeze or.
Oh, I have done it many times.
Yeah, yeah.
I was doing a playcalled the Night of January 16th.
It's, an ran play,and the whole, plays a, trial.
And I was a defense attorney,and we went through 20 rehearsals
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and seven performances,and we're doing the last performance.
And, you know, at the end of the trial,you deliver your your final speech
to the jury,and I'm walking back and forth
doing my speech, and all of a suddenI got nothing.
I got nothing.
I could feel the blood rushing to my head.Yep, yep.
And finally, the girl who was on trial,she yells out something.
It just brings it back. Yeah.
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Those 10s therewhere I'm walking back and forth saying,
now, how can I explain this to you?
But I had nothing.
Yeah.
Are you saying, please, someonetell me how I can explain this to you?
It always works out.Oh, as it works out. Yeah.
Oh, you get that little gap,you know, I was, doing a play,
I, you know, sometimes you jump a line,you jump
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a couple of lines,I jump three pages long.
I hit the end.
They said to the directorI thought it was moving kind of slow.
Speed it up a little bit.
What about you, Chris?Is that happened to you?
Or something similar.
You know what? So
I'm one of those weird people that I.
I transition to acting after doing sports.
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So I play basketball, football, soccer,track and field.
So the the biggest rush that I get now in
my adultlife is from theater or from acting.
So for me, it's
I love it so much that like,I embrace the opportunity to do it.
So, I just let it flow naturally.
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And then if there is a timeswhere, you know,
maybe there is a curveballthat's thrown at me,
I really utilize improvto make sure that I,
I may go around, butI always get back to where I need to be.
Right?
So while that hasn't happened to me yet,knock on wood,
you know, if it does, I you know,
I think that's just another opportunityto lean on the improv skills.
You know, the opportunity to go exactlythe love that you're looking at.
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Obstacles are opportunities. Yes.
Yes, Jon, I would say those improv skills,after so many years of doing it
that you would be comfortable, like,if you mess up,
I know I'll just say whatever,I can bring it back.
You can always bring it back.
Yeah.
I like to say as long as you know the end.
Yeah. The end isyou have all different ways to get there.
And I have the improv at the tableswith the people.
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You know, I'm looking forward to that.Yeah.
When I was the Irish priest.
Oh, I yeah, I find the most timidlooking person at the table and say,
oh, father wants to hear thisone's confession.
She looks like she's got a bit ofthe devil in her. Oh, no. No.
They always pick the most timidlooking for.
Sure, sure. Yeah.
And I guess the best responsefrom the audience to.
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Yeah, yeah.
And but I'm playing the priest.
When I was playing the priest,
every show, somebody would say, father,would you hear my confession?
You know, and I'd say, oh, Jesus,we only got an hour and a half.
I don't think you get all in. Oh.
All right, well, I tell you, whereveryou're a priest, I'm going to services,
okay?
Or did you imagine Joe Quaalude on there?
So that is all improvwhen you're walking around the tables.
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Well, well, not not necessarily 100%. Rob.
So what we do is we have a back story
and how we communicatethat back story is through our improv.
Yeah. So that's that's where I would saythe improv comes in it.
Wow. Yeah.
So you're directingbut you're acting in this one also.
Yes, I am. Okay.
I always admire that.
You know, when you say directed byand the person starring are there
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and they're the twobecause that's it's a lot more work.
I mean,how do you direct yourself sometimes?
I think that it's just being honestwith myself and being open, you know?
And the great thing is that we always havea genius at all of our rehearsals.
I oh, Janis is always,you know, provided her input, you know,
providing her a redirection,even for someone like me.
Yeah.
I may be one of the directors, but she'salso like, I work with her so, so close.
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Or hand the hand
that, you know, I'll try certain thingsto see fit, to see how it fits, you know?
So I'm not afraid toto give her something that she says.
You know what, Chris?
This doesn't work, you know, so that's,
you know, so let's try anotheranother avenue now my okay Janice.
And that just getsmy creative juices flowing.
Because if I do one, if I do a sceneone way and she's like, it doesn't work.
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And you know what?Maybe I could do it this way.
Or maybe I could just add this to itto make it work.
Or if I if I'm really strong in it as Iif it didn't work,
how can I make it workby going to Uncle Franco and asking him.
Yes. Right. Hey,
Franco, what do you think?
But it really is about humility, isn't it?
You really have to have you military.
So I think humilityis an overrated virtue.
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So I said this about humility.
Being an actoris one of the most humbling things
that you could be in this world.
And the reason being is you are timeand time again, sharing your gifts
with people who may connect with it
or they may not, you know,and if people don't, you know,
we've all seen movies that we say,oh, the acting, the hair is horrible.
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But if we allow that to really, determine
if we continue to pursue this, there's,you know, this course of acting, then,
you know, a lot of usprobably won't be acting.
It takes a lot of courage,you know, to be a comedian.
I see comedians up there.How many times they'd have to fail.
You know what?
The times that they go out thereand nobody laughs, right? Yeah.
And that takes a lot of gutsto go back out there and do it again
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because you're,
you're out therebasically pouring your heart out
and you're out there by yourselfon a stage.
It's almost like being,you know, naked in a sense.
Yeah, I can do this every day of the week.
I could never do stand up. No, never.
No, no, I mean it because it's differentis, is is one thing for me
to say something that, thatyou guys don't expect and laugh at it,
but it's asomething totally different to say okay.
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Make me laugh.
Big difference to what I just see on TV.
Tim, the comedianTim Allen, Tim Allen said the first time
he was on a Johnny Carson show,he bombed so bad
that even Johnny told him he did.
And, but he already he was already acting
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and he wanted to do the his standup.
Yeah. So this is what I do. Yeah.
But when he walked out to that stage
with that many people looking at himand it was a whole different ambiance
going to it, NBC production, he froze.
He I mean, you see the camera'slooking at you.
You think? Yeah, Johnny Carson.
(27:52):
Yeah, yeah.
But the big thing ishe brought him back to do it again.
Yeah. And I guess when.
What is that saying?
When you fall off the horse,get back on it. Yeah.
And some people don't, you know, and theymay have regrets that they didn't do it.
Yeah. My dad was really good about that.
If I fell off,he made me get right back up again.
He was top, top military guy.
Yeah. Right back up again.
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Yeah.
My father was tough.
Yeah, yeah, my father was an iron worker.
Oh, okay.
And, I used to work with himin the summer as well as going to school.
And one day I got knocked out on the job,and he came over.
I was laying on the groundand he says, get up.
You can't sleep here.
How did you get hurt?
Are you all right?
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Man. But this is going to be a great show.
So, Joyce, you want to kind of like, Yeah.What was this out?
It's coming up on valiantand knock out Halloween.
You might do a Valentine show.
No, no, never. I never know. Halloween.
I if you go to the woodwinds.com,you can get your tickets
or read all about itbecause the food list is simply amazing.
Oh, yeah. Right.
It has silvio's famous sauce.There are woodwinds too.
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You got to pick up some
that they all they it'son a lot of the dishes that they make.
But I mean there's 15 signaturehot pass orders.
There's a first course.
Second course on it.
Yeah. You're you eat a lot at woodlands.
But this is the first timethey're doing this this particular show.
Yeah.
They've had Aspen dreams come ona few times because we we love them there.
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The acting is superb.
Thank you.
And we love you.
Oh, we love you. Present there, Uncle Dan.
And I was so good to see you guys.But we'll see you on Halloween night.
And tickets are still available for this.Yes. Yeah.
So she just started telling people,oh, it's the time of broadcast.
As we say.
Get your tickets. Beat the mob.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
John Cadillac Seville from iHeart radio.
(29:41):
Joyce Logan, my friend and colleague here.
Thank you so much for having us onand watching us.
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So we thank you so much. Until next time.
Maybe, you know, blessyou and your family.
Bye for now. Thank you.
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