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September 24, 2025 35 mins

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In the premiere episode of Season 13, Barb sits down with our special guest and friend of the pod, Denise Torgerson, to explore the fine line between self-care and being seen as selfish. Together, they dig into our understanding of taking time for ourselves, why boundaries can feel uncomfortable but necessary, and how to reframe “selfish” as a step toward healthier living. With Denise’s warmth and wisdom, this conversation offers practical insights—and a few laughs—on finding balance between caring for others and honoring your own needs.

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