June 2, 2025 • 43 mins
Alec and JJ dive into the multifaceted nature of the film "Dazed and Confused," a quintessential representation of the 1970s high school experience. We examine the film's narrative, which encapsulates the essence of adolescence while simultaneously highlighting the complexities of social dynamics among youth. The discussion addresses the themes of camaraderie and the intricate balance of bullying, which, as we contend, can sometimes serve as a rite of passage rather than mere cruelty. The hosts share their personal reflections on how the film resonates with their own formative years, contrasting experiences and noting the evolution of societal perceptions surrounding youth interactions. Ultimately, we celebrate the film's quotability, memorable characters, and its enduring status as a beloved classic that continues to evoke laughter and nostalgia.
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Like 70's a wild time.
The mom with the shotgun isthe greatest thing.
Oh, and then the old dude's shooting.
Like he's shooting at these kids.
Yeah.
For a mailbox.
Yeah.
That's great.
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Welcome to the what's Everyday podcast.
We fashion ourselves cinematicjudge and Jerry.
My name is J.J.
crowder.
I'm here with my co host, Alec Burgess.
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Yeah.
We're starting a new month.
That's crazy.
It's June.
It's June.
Time is flying this year, JJ.
Dude, 2025 is going likegangbusters fast.
It's nuts.
Dude, it's June.
But with June, come summer.
And with summer comes great movies.
Whether it's your blockbustersor whatever or the classics that
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we're gonna talk about.
Some of them, I don't know howthey ended up in a summer film selection,
but that's okay.
We'll talk about them anyway.
And if you haven't noticed,Matson isn't here.
I'd feel sorry for him, butthe son of a is in Spain, so.
Yeah.
So having the greatest summerexperience ever.
Yeah, he can go gfy.
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And we will do this podcastwithout him and the next one too.
So while he's in Spain, I hopehe's having a good time.
But with that, we're jumpinginto summer kickoff movies.
And to kick it off, we'regoing straight to the.
We're just going straight for it.
So Dazed and Confused, it wasreleased September 24, 1993.
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It was written by Richard Linklater.
It was directed by Richard Linklater.
It stars Jason London, WileyWiggins, Matthew McConaughey, Rory
Cochran, Joey, Lauren Adams,Mila Jovovich, Sean Andrews, Adam
Goldberg, Anthony Rap, Sasha Jensen.
I could go on and go on, but Iwill have to say Cole Hauser because
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he's pretty funny.
But yeah, there's a lot ofpeople in this movie.
It's about the adventures ofhigh school and junior high students
on the last day of School inMay 1976.
That's as good a synopsis asyou can get for this particular movie.
Alec, this was your choice, dude.
I want to hear all about whywe're watching and talk about Dazed
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and Confused.
This was my pick and it wasalways going to be on the list.
Summer movie, Dazed and Confused.
You're never gonna find abetter one in my opinion.
The interesting thing thoughis, right, so it's well known fact,
I have a huge man Crush onMatthew McConaughey.
So like Matthew Conahay firstmovie though, also just amazing.
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But the problem that I havewith the movie is you can tell where
he doesn't belong, but thatthey liked him enough to put him
back in there.
And so it, it's a little bitjarring here and there, but Wooderson
is one of the greatest filmcharacters ever created, like hands
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down.
And if you're talking summermovie, he fits the bill for exactly
what you want.
Small town kind of vibe.
Just, it's amazing.
And so every time I watchthis, this movie creates almost that
not necessarily nostalgia, right.
Because I didn't live in the70s, I was born the same year this
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movie came out.
Right.
But it's, it's like takingback that simpler almost kind of
experience when you're youngerin that coming of age stuff.
And so that kind of, I guessexperience doesn't necessarily change
so much.
The surroundings change, butthe experience that you go through
in this coming of age, prettysimilar in the same vein of things.
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And so sitting down to watchthis, it's like taking it back to
some good times, right.
And so I thoroughly enjoy justthrowing this on.
It's quotable, it's enjoyable.
You have just an all starstellar cast from like their beginnings
in Hollywood almost or nearenough to it that it's just an enjoyable
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watch all around.
So I, I sit down and watchthis as frequently as I can.
Yeah, I was glad you picked it.
If you hadn't.
This is another one that I hada feeling because you had talked
about it as we were gearing upfor this topic.
But I was like, if he doesn't,I will.
Because this is a movie, man.
I remember being 12 years old,living in Kentucky, little tiny town.
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I've told you guys it with onemovie theater that had like four
screens or some.
And when this Q movie cameout, like we didn't care about it
as kids because to your point,like the hell do I give a about 1976
for?
Like that's my parents stuff,you know what I mean?
And it was so.
But anyway, like so but thenyou have the older kids who were
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going when high school and wewere in junior high and you would
hear about Dazed and Confusedand you know, it's funny and it's
get.
They all do all sorts of crazyin it.
And I was like, we, so we, weWent and bought.
I don't even remember what webought tickets for, but it was some
PG movie.
And then we snuck in today confused.
And I remember being 12 yearsold, just laughing my ever loving
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ass off at this movie andthinking, other than getting my ass
whooped by a bunch of seniorswhen I'm a freshman, I really want
to go to high school.
You know, it was like.
And it was.
And I'll tell you, as a 90skid who got to see this movie, like,
as you were growing, like, youalways wanted to be that kid that
took his licks and then becamepart of the crew and got to make
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out with his sister's body,like best friend.
And like, so it's just like wethought about that shit as kids.
Like, we would reference thismovie constantly when I was a kid
and talk about, man, you gotto be like, so and so.
And I got.
And that joke.
I mean, it's so inappropriatenowadays, people, they lose their
minds.
But like, the whole.
The, these high school girls,they stay the same.
I get older, but they stay thesame age.
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Like that line, like, we did that.
Like, seriously, there's somany quotable things and this movie
just holds up, like.
And I.
So it's been a very long timesince I'd watched this movie, actually,
which is surprising becausethis is one of my favorites.
But when I was sitting therewatching it yesterday, going, oh
my God, why do I not watchthis, like, all the time?
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Because it's just.
It's just great, man.
It's.
And I a lot sometimes on thispodcast about movies that have no
point.
This is the greatest moviethat has no point.
Like, seriously, like, thereis no point to this movie.
But that's what makes it great.
Because that age, there's notreally a point.
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You know what I mean?
Like, anyway, it's just so interesting.
But yeah, I was so glad thatyou put this on the list and it got
voted for because I was like,this is.
This is what I'm talking aboutright here.
So something else that kind ofhit me on this watch through, I'll
say is the kind of thisconcept of almost positive bullying.
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Yeah, right.
Or the rite of passagebullying, where it's.
It's almost like bullying'slost that.
Oh, yeah.
And the betrayal and stuff.
And it's all right to bullysomebody as long as you, you know,
don't leave them hanging.
And it's just out of maliciousness.
But you have this almost, youknow, we.
We get the experience forMitch, right?
And it's like, hey, yeah, he's.
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He gets up.
But that opens all these doorsto a summer night and a summer experience
that he's never gonna forget.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's a cool one where he'snow part of the game.
He's invited in.
It's coming into, you know,high school and.
Which is a very, you know,awkward time for anybody.
And you don't.
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You're still figuring yourself out.
And it's almost like takingall that awkwardness in the 70s and
just kind of like getting allover with it once, pushing it through.
And now he's, you know, kindof past that stage.
Right.
So it's now no longer reallytrying to figure yourself out.
It's kind of the.
The same mentality of, youneed to learn how to swim.
You just toss someone into thewater, and then they'll figure it
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out.
But it's kind of taking the shortcut.
And, you know, someone whoprobably would be, based on look
and attitude and everything,he would be a total loser in high
school.
And we wants to hang out withhim, but instead, because, you know,
this kind of process happens,he now is, you know, part of the
crew.
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And it's like, hey, that'slike positive bullying.
Like, I'm all about thatbecause I'm a huge bully, but I'm
an asshole about it.
And so I was like, this.
This actually could be used ina way to still bully somebody, but
make some good come out of it.
Bring back bullying.
That's what I say, dude.
I'm telling you.
So I.
It's funny that you say that,and I know it's like you made part
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of it as a joke and.
But the other part is very serious.
But I'm telling you, I think that.
And listen, let me differentiate.
There's shitty bullying.
Like, there's actual.
Like, someone's an.
Had a tough life, whatever itis, and they have to be a human being
to make themselves feel betterby actually bullying.
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And that should not.
That's not okay.
That needs to be fixed.
We need to actually put moreattention on the bullies as well
as those being bullied.
Right now, we just look atbullies and go, you, man, you're
a bully.
But instead, there's a reasonthat they're bullying, and we need
to get down to that.
We lose track of that.
Right.
It's either you're.
You're the victim or we'recanceling you.
It's one or the other.
There's no in between and that.
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And here's the crazy part.
So as a Kid, like, And I knowyou're like, you said you.
I was 12 when I was.
And you were being born.
I was born.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So it's like I even.
But even so, like, thedifference, I'm sure when you were
in high school was stillprobably different than my experience
because I'll tell you rightnow, like, we didn't get paddled
or anything like that fromlike, they didn't chase us down on
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the last day of school going,you're now a freshman in high school.
We're give you some whoops.
Now.
It's.
I wouldn't have put it pastpeople where I grew up and went to
high school, but no, like, butwe had, like, we got bullied.
And not.
But to your point, not in avindictive or shitty way, it was
a welcome to the party, pal.
You got to pay your dues kindof, right?
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And it could come in different forms.
Like, I got.
There was.
So I went to high school in Kentucky.
And right by our school, therewas this really ugly, nasty creek
that ran and it was pretty deep.
Like it was.
There was runoff, there was concrete.
Like it was a city built thing.
And then it went into anactual creek.
But I can't tell you how manykids like got thrown into that thing.
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And it was gross.
And I was one of them.
So I got thrown into it.
But you know what?
I got thrown into it.
I probably.
It was gross.
I swam out, I went into theschool showers, I took a shower,
I gotta change clothes.
And I wore some stupid ass,like, lost and found clothes for
the rest of the day, right?
And I was pissed.
And when I got home, my momwas pissed because that water's dirty
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and gross and who knows, like,I might have caught hepatitis just
by getting.
You know what I mean?
But like, that was.
But at the same time, one ofthe kids that threw me in there became
one of my best friends.
Like, I still talk to themtoday, right?
So it's like nowadays we lookdown and that's why I was laughing,
like, I watched this movie andI go, people would lose their minds
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if this happened today.
Like, people be going to jailfor spanking these kids.
And I go, you know what?
They're not dead.
They're not broken.
They don't need to go to adoctor, they don't need to go to
the hospital, be pissed off,find a way to get back and dump some
paint on o' Bannon's head, right?
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But, like, don't.
Why do we always have to go to this.
And, God, I'm getting sophilosophical about Dazed and Confused,
but it just points out to me,like, why do we have to go to the
super victim level, where it'slike, it's not okay for idiot kids?
Because, let's be real, Kidsare stupid, kids are annoying, kids
are aggressive.
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They gotta figure out.
And one of those things isfiguring out, who can you get along
with?
Who can you, you know, who cantake it, who can't?
Who.
Who do you need to grab a hold of?
Like, you got pink.
That's taken in Mitch, right?
Like, he's like, look, man,that sucks.
We did it to you.
I.
He gives him the little tap,right, that keeps him cool with the
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seniors.
But then he helps thisfreshman kid, like, have the night
of his life, right?
You know, because he's like,come with us.
He's like, is that okay?
Yeah, man, you're good.
You took your deal with it.
It's gonna suck.
But now you figure it out.
And look, he's probably gotfriends for life of these people
that everybody else wasrunning scared from and think they're.
When it came down to it, like,they took care of him, right?
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And I get.
Not everybody's like that.
There are real shitty bullies,like I mentioned earlier, but this
isn't it.
But these people would get in trouble.
You get kicked out of school,you know, because they're doing that
stuff.
And I.
I just think there's pieces ofour humanity that are missing because
we don't allow.
And I don't want to call itbullying because I don't believe
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they're the same thing.
But the bullying, I mean, youknow, the fret, like you said, the
positive bullying, or thebullying that creates friendships
and make.
And is done with goodintention, not to actually harm or
to hurt anybody, but toactually say, look, man, welcome
to high school.
This sucks.
But the rest of it's going tobe great.
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And you'll get your turn later.
Yeah, when you're a senior,you get to dish that out.
It's like that.
It's like that continuing.
Not really mentorship, butit's that continuing the tradition,
passing it down, whatever typeof a thing.
Yeah.
So to your point, I thinkwhere we lost it was from the side
of the bullying, right?
Where it's turned even moreand more or become more about, you
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know, straight victimizing or,you know, getting your licks in from
a power move or something like that.
And it's.
It's lost what they show here,which is that, yeah, I'm Gonna throw
you in the creek.
Like, what you experienced.
I'm gonna throw you in the creek.
But because of that, that'salso how I know that I can get along
with you, that I like you typeof a thing based on your reaction
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to it.
And so, yeah, you have thatkind of.
You're losing that and losingthat almost sense of community in
a weird way, because itdoesn't seem like it.
Right.
But it's that interaction, community.
And, you know, I mean, my joband people that I hang out with,
like, I don't have a lot offriends, but the ones I do, oh, we
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are terrible to each other.
It is like, we can't have HRat my company because all of us would
get fired in about 10 minutes.
And so it's.
It's that kind of, you know,the way we rib on each other, the
way we interact, the way we talk.
And people have actually come,like, from the outside in and turned
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around and gone right back outin a couple weeks because they.
They just don't understand orthey can't fit into it because it's.
It's everybody.
It's like, we'll even takedigs at ourselves sometimes more
frequently than each other.
But it's that idea of, youknow, you're gonna come in, it's
gonna be a mixer and ablender, but at the same time, if
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you're, if you're having arough time, like, and I know that
when I put you through shit,like, you come out or you give it
back, like, I'm more likely tohelp you out and be on your team
and your side.
When I can clearly see that,oh, hey, you're struggling with this
versus, you know, someone Idon't know, I don't know how to interact
with, then it's just almostwalking on eggshells to try and figure
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it out.
It's this little dance of, youknow, I don't really know how to
interact in this place.
And so I hate making new friends.
Yeah, I don't.
I don't have any because I, I.
I just can't interact with them.
Yeah.
Because the way that Iinteract is in this very, you know,
demeaning kind of feeding backand forth, like, sarcastic.
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I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonnawait until you're at your lowest,
and I'm gonna kick you downeven further.
But at the same time, there's,you know, that kind of once.
Once it's kind of establishedthe boundaries or whatever from there,
then it's like, all right, IKnow where to go.
I know how to do this.
Yeah.
And it's a.
It's a closer bond, in myopinion, than someone who you just
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interact with on a surface level.
That makes sense.
No, absolutely.
It makes perfect sense.
Like I said, one of my bestfriends still to this day was a bully
to me, and we're nasty to it.
I mean, you got, you know,like, me, you, and Matson.
And, like, a lot of times, thepodcast doesn't see it all the time,
like, in the episodes werelease, but.
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And it wouldn't be fun if we didn't.
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And that's how I know I wantto keep doing this with you guys,
because it's fun, and we getafter each other, and it's hilarious,
and.
Yeah, I would be.
So.
And that's always been.
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Yeah.
I think I talked to my nieces, and.
And, you know, my one niece isgraduating next year, and my other
niece is a freshman this year.
And it's like, I listen tohim, and they talk about how everybody's
just so soft with each other,and I'm just like, man, you guys
don't even know.
And I.
I hate saying that, because Ihated it back when I was in school,
and people from the 70s, like,you guys have no idea.
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And I'm like, yeah, that'svery true.
Now, you know, I understandwhere they're coming from, because
I do.
I.
I talk to my nieces andnephews all the time, and they're
like, oh, this, that, or the other.
And someone was doing.
And I'm like, who cares?
I'm like, just roll with it.
It's like you get more respect.
I mean, unless they're tryingto actually hurt somebody.
Yeah, that's different.
But if they're just, like,giving you a good ribbon, or they
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just, you know, poking you, orthey just, you know, that's a.
Take a paddle to your assenough to give you a bruise.
Who gives a.
I don't have to go to the hospital.
I'm not hurt.
I'm gonna go get past it, andthen we'll laugh about it.
And then someday I'll tattoosome freshman's ass with a powder.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's just.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like you said, it's this pattern.
It's a cycle.
And I think there's somehealth to it that we've gotten rid
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of because we're so afraid ofthose outliers.
And I truly believe they'reoutliers that take it to a place
where it's pure victim.
Like, oh, you know, thislittle joke was meant to hurt me.
And everybody just gets sooffended by everything.
Like, Jesus, man, if thesekids hung out with me and my friends
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when we were their age, dude,they'd be in freaking insane asylums.
We.
We tortured each other, and weloved each other for.
I mean, I still.
I go back to Kentucky, and Isee friends like Lamar and Caleb,
and we just walk right into.
What's up, you fat?
Yeah.
You're looking especially ugly today.
You know what I mean?
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Like, it's just, like.
It's the same.
You just fall back into it.
Yeah.
Because those lines of art andthen have already been drawn in the
sand, so to speak.
But the other kind of coolthing about this movie.
Like, this movie has layers to it.
Yeah.
Is we get that other side of it.
Right.
With Adam Goldberg's characterand that kind of side crew who doesn't
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participate.
Yeah.
And they're doing, like, thephilosophical thinking or the deep,
you know, kind of side quest,we'll say, to where they're not into
this sphere.
They're.
They're adjacent to it.
Yeah.
Right.
And so you.
You had this, as well, where,as, you know, they're.
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They're still showcasing thiskind of other side, which is the
side that's gonna be all aboutthe, you know, the proper way to
do things or this is the way.
You know, this.
I think at one point, hementions, like, the alpha monkey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
And when he goes in for thefight at the end.
But you can see that it's.
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It stops.
It skips over that ribbing.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's because you have.
Adam Goldberg's character justisn't in the loop.
Right.
And so he kind of.
He.
He takes it a step further.
Right.
And goes straight to thepunching or the, you know, start
the fist fight type of athing, which, if you had that back
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and forth, never happens.
Yeah, Right.
If you have that ribbing,like, I've never wanted to punch
somebody that I have that kindof relationship with.
It's never come down to that.
But there's a lot of people.
I'm looking like, you shouldbe punched in the face right now.
Yeah.
And it's.
It's when that.
That relationship isn't thereand you don't have that connection.
And so it I was kind of likewatching through this, like, oh,
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shoot.
They showed the.
The other side of this aswell, which is where you don't have
that mesh, you don't have thatkind of community going back and
forth with the mutual respectkind of in there.
And now you see where you havethat confrontation, you have that
friction, and what does itplay out to?
Like it.
It ends okay.
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Yeah, but that's because youhave outside help stepping in.
And if you don't have thatoutside help or that, you know, kind
of third party, I'll say, then.
Then that's where you haveyour issues kind of coming down.
Because now there's, you know,someone that there's a communication
barrier, for lack of a better term.
So I kind of enjoyed that too.
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And I was sitting therewatching, probably had the same experience
you did where I was like, thismovie, now that I'm watching as part
of podcast now, I'm looking atit like a movie instead of just like
sitting down and watching it.
And I was like, ah, it's still enjoyable.
But I was like, ah, no, it's ruined.
(21:51):
Dude.
I'll tell you, the podcast hasruined many a movie for me.
In fact, we'll talk about onenext time.
But, yeah, so.
But I'm with you.
I think there is more depth tothis movie than I ever gave it credit
for.
And I think for me, Pink isone of those examples too, where
he's just kind of this guythat's floating in the middle.
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Everybody gets along with him,but he's got this hard decision to
make, right?
Like, he wants to play ball,but the coaches put him in this shitty
position where you got to signthis honor form horseshit.
And I love watching thatprogression where he's, like, trying
to decide, like, do I want.
Is it okay for me to conformin this situation and do I need to
do that to maintain who I amand what I love to do?
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Or do I really need to leaninto this part that we see in the
movie where it's thiscarefree, want to have fun, and it's
like the older people, and Ilove that conversation near the end
when they're on the 50 andthey're talking about the form and
it's.
You're like the fourth personthat gave me this form today.
And then, like, you have thatmoment of the two sides pulling at
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him, right?
Like, I need.
I can sign this thing and, youknow, whatever, do what I need to
do and play ball and what.
And then.
But then I don't get to be meat that point, right.
Like, I'm.
What am I sacrificing just for this?
And so I love that moment whenhe confronts the coach and he's like,
I might play ball, but I'm notsigning this.
Right.
And throws it back.
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And I think that's really, forme, one of the coolest progression
is to watch him go, I want todo this, but there has to be some
bucking of this system becausefor them to make me sign this, that
signs away the things that Ineed to be experiencing right now
to become who I'm going to beafter school.
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Right.
Because school's such a tinypiece of life.
And when you get past it,like, you have to decide who am I
going to be.
And so in that moment, hedecides, I'm going to do more than
just conform and play footballand be willing to, you know, make
sacrifices in order, for one thing.
I mean, it depends on what it is.
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But I just love, like, that'sone of my favorite progressions,
rewatching as an adult andlooking at it from like a point of
view of where does this movie go?
There is a lot of depth therewith a lot of characters.
Like, even the lack of depthfor some characters is depth in the
movie.
Yeah.
Like Ben Affleck's character,like, that's the kind of guy that,
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like, you look at and you go,man, his identity is so wrapped up
in being this and being a dickand having, like, he'll never have,
most likely he'll never havereal power or real influence in his
life.
So he has to assert this levelof dominance.
And then the whole joke abouthim failing so he can do it again.
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Right.
Like that.
It's.
It's wild to me, like how acharacter that's barely in it and
only is a one, you know, thisone dimensional character, but when
you look at it, it, and youput it in the whole scope of the
movie, there's a lot more toit than just him being this.
So I like that.
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I was just gonna follow up andsay, like, especially with the pink
stuff, like, what's nice aboutit is this movie doesn't.
Doesn't do anything thatwouldn't make sense.
Right.
So he.
He's clearly that kind of gothis own set code of honor.
Right.
Like everybody else on theteam signs this paper fully knowing
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that they will break it, butthey sign it because here it comes
down the line.
He's kind of looking at.
He's like, well, I'm not gonnado this.
Right?
Yeah, I'm not gonna follow this.
I'm not just gonna sign it andsay I will when I know I won't.
Right.
It's kind of that sense code, honor.
And it makes sense based on,you know, we see him with Mitch,
he gives the light tap, offersdrive him home.
Right.
Brings him in it.
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Follow.
Like he follows his own moralcompass, his own code of honor.
Yeah.
In its own way.
And he's not just, you know,signing the paper to sign it and
fully just knowing that he'sgonna break it.
Right.
I would do that.
I'd be like, oh, yeah, sure,yeah, immediately break it.
And so it's kind of a cooladded depth to it that, you know,
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solidifies, hey, this guy'smore than just your typical meathead
quarterback that you, you.
You would see typically inthis movie.
Yeah, right.
He's got this sense of codethat he follows and morals, understanding,
and he sticks to it no matterthe situation that he's in, whether
he's hanging out with, youknow, his buddies or a freshman or
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he's hanging out with Wooderson.
He's the same person.
Yeah.
And so they don't throw anykind of these twist little things
in there that would make Pinkor any of the other characters not
really fit just to tell the story.
Yeah, they tell the story withthe characters in mind and having
them stick to almost this, youknow, this story in this writing
all makes sense.
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Yeah.
It's a very well written moviewith a lot of great dialogue, good
conversations.
I will say that in the 70s, itmust have been nice to be able to
drive like a NASCAR driverthrough the streets of a town and
not get hammered for that,because Even in the 90s, we were.
I wasn't getting away with that.
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Like, we did do some stupid inthe car.
There was like a hill inKentucky that we used to jump when
I first got my license.
And now it's fun.
We almost died a couple times, but.
But, like, I can't.
That first opening chase scene.
Just go for broke, man.
Yeah, dude.
And the amount of guns thatget pulled on kids.
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It'S like 70's a wild time.
The mom with the shotgun isthe greatest thing.
Oh, and then the old dude'sshooting like, he's shooting at these
kids.
Yeah.
For a mailbox.
Yeah.
That's great.
It's great.
I love it.
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Yeah.
Okay, so I will say.
I will say the part I don'tlike is my favorite part.
And the fact that we get toomuch Wooderson in places he doesn't
belong because they likedMatthew McConaughey did such a great
job.
And that pulls me out a littlebit because it's the only part of
this movie that doesn'texactly fit.
Yeah, right.
Like at the 50 yard line, youknow, he's not supposed to be there.
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Yeah.
But he's there becauseWaterson is amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so it's.
It's just kind of like.
Because I love him.
I love more screen time, buthe's not supposed to be there.
And it can it.
With such a great writtenstory, you can see the mistakes that
are made by adding them in.
Whereas this.
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This more loosey goosey kindof plot and, you know, up and down
all around, it gets hiddeninto it.
But these are so blatantlylike, he.
He was not meant for thisscene that it's.
It just nails on a chalkboard almost.
Yeah.
For me, where I'm like, oh,yeah, yeah.
There are some moments too, inthe dialogue that I'm like, okay.
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Like, I'm trying to like,there's the.
The part where Pink is talkingto Joy Lauren Adams character after
he's made out with this othergirl, like, the one dude's sister.
And, like, he's having this conversation.
Like, that conversation, like,grates on my nerves so bad because
I'm just like, this doesn'tadd any value to me, especially with
that character.
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Right.
Like, he.
I don't care.
Like, I like him and thedude's sister together.
Like, that was like, oh,that's a good pick.
And then all of a sudden,she's like, making a big deal.
Like, I'm.
Okay, first of all, don't makeout with this dude if you're gonna
be all weird about it.
Then, like, he goes to JoeyLauren Adams and they're talking
and I'm like, you obviouslydon't like this.
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You're having thisconversation that's partially serious.
And, like, I just don't buy it.
And I.
It.
Maybe it's because of JoeyLauren Adams, the dry.
Like, never been a big fan ofher in most cases, but it also just.
To me, that dialogue didn'tadd to the value of the movie, which
is interesting because I knowsome of that had to be added because
they're like, we need it to belonger than, like, an hour and 20
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minutes because it's arelatively short movie.
Yeah.
And so, like, Yeah.
I mean, unless you're lookingto edit a bunch of stuff out, it's.
Yeah, you're gonna be introuble at some point.
But I do think that there weresome weird conversations That I was
like, what?
But other than that, like so funny.
It's just so, so, so funny.
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Yeah, no, it's.
It's a.
It's a great watch.
I.
I crack up just uproariouslyevery single time I watch it because
it's just full of greatquotability, good one liners and
I mean even.
What's it.
Is it Ryan Cochran?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude.
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Just classic stoner.
So good.
You can't.
It slurs his words.
You have to almost watch hislips move to figure out what he's
saying.
His eyes are.
Is red, like just around.
It's just great.
It's such a great performance.
Oh yeah.
Just fits the bill so well.
And he's.
He's clearly having a goodtime and having fun while he's doing
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it.
Oh yeah.
And so it's little things likethat where you can tell the cast
is also having just a blastmaking this movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This movie does make me wantto go get some trees.
Every time I'm like, gotta hitthe trees.
It's time for some tree love.
Like.
Yeah, it's just great.
Like I Love the Part 2.
At the very beginning whenthey're having.
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We're talking about the partyand the dad, they're getting ready.
The dad, mom and dad early.
He comes up and they're like,dude, dude.
Because he's just holding thefreaking bag of trees in his lap
and it's like.
And then he's like, oh.
And tucks it under his shirt.
Like he's just sitting therestaring at it for a minute.
Like they're like, dude, likethat'd be that guy, like just staring
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at it going, that's what I want.
Not.
I don't want to hide it.
I want to roll it.
Yeah.
And I love that they all hadpapers in their glove box and they
all like just like man prepared.
I wish I had lived in the 70s.
Sometimes, like the thingsthat were like normal.
It was very hard to get thatkind of paraphernalia when I was
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in high school and I lived ina place where I was started in high
school in a place where thatstuff has grown on the regular out
in Kentucky.
Like I can't tell you how manytimes FBI shuts down marijuana farm
out in middle of nowhere Kentucky.
So weird.
Yeah, it was.
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It wasn't easy to get a holdof that stuff.
But movie makes me want tohave some every single time.
Oh, to be in high school again.
That's the other thing thismovie makes you think of.
Like if I Could go back tohigh school and know what I know
now.
And I didn't have a bad.
Like, I've had.
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I have friends who will talkabout high school.
And even I think Matson'smentioned, like, he hated high school.
And I'm like, I actuallydidn't have a problem with high school.
Like, I.
I had a good time in high school.
I didn't have a.
I didn't have a lot of enemies.
I didn't have a lot of people didn't.
Like, I had a few.
I got a lot of fights when Ifirst moved to Kentucky because,
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like, kind of like how itgoes, this movie.
They had to test you.
Like, what kind of person wereyou making order.
Yeah, you're gonna run overand cry to the teacher because we
found you and wanted to fightyou in the hallway.
Are you gonna take yourbeating and move on, or are you gonna
give out a beating and make usgo, well, maybe we shouldn't do that
again?
They grow different up therein Ohio.
Yeah, exactly.
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But I did, I'll tell you, whenI first moved to Kentucky.
We, as in seventh grade, sixthgrade, seventh grade.
I guess 12.
I was 11 when we first moved there.
You're getting so many fightsat first, and then again, at least
half of those fights becamereally great friends later on because
it's just how it was.
It's not.
We weren't in this to, like,beat the.
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Out of each other.
We were in it to see, can youhang, man?
Can you take it?
Like, are you willing to standup for yourself?
Are you willing to do what yougot to do?
And sometimes I was.
And sometimes I was like, oh,this is gonna suck.
I took a few beatings.
Yeah.
So, like, for me, anyway, high school.
I went to high school.
South California.
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Right.
So it's already going to beway different than.
Yeah.
But then on top of that, youknow, we went to high school, you
know, 12 years apart orsomething like that.
And so then you have the timesadded in.
And so I had a very mild highschool experience.
But I was just thinking aboutthis the other day, like, I haven't
changed much.
So I'm one of those peoplethat is, like, for whatever reason,
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people tend to like me andthey shouldn't.
Yeah, I am a terrible person.
I am the worst asshole youwill ever meet in your life.
But for whatever reason,people seem to like me.
And so I was that kid thateverybody kind of knew.
Right.
And I, like, I knew everybodyor everybody know me, but I wasn't
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close to anybody.
I Didn't really do muchoutside of high school, like, going
to parties or stuff like that,because I had my circle of friends,
and we go chill or whatever it was.
Yeah.
And so.
So it's like, if I would goback and do it different, I'd probably
be more involved with otherthings, just go out and have fun.
But it's like, I don't feellike I missed anything because I
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was just.
I just haven't changed.
I'm the same.
Same.
Just, you know, and there's noreason to almost.
It's gonna sound terrible thisway, but it's like, there's almost
no reason to change becausefor whatever reason, whatever I'm
doing, people seem to like, so.
Oh, the Internet doesn't like you.
There you go.
(35:43):
Both worlds.
The Internet doesn't like me.
I did freeze.
So I was saying, like, Ialmost have the best of both worlds
in the sense that I could bethis absolute dick.
Yeah.
But people seem to be okaywith it when I do it.
And so it's like, do I.
Do I really want to give thatup for potentially a different experience?
No, not really.
That's fair.
That's fair.
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No, I'm with you.
I.
I will say that I would, like.
I'd be interested to go back,knowing what I know now, just to
see what I.
I would go back.
And again, this goes back tothe point of I'm kind of a dick,
too.
I would go back for nefarious purposes.
Like, I would not go backbecause I had a bad experience and
I wanted it to be better oranything like that.
I would go back because I waslike, I think now.
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And I go, man, if I knew whatI know now, if I was as smart as
I am and have the life experience.
We went back to high school, the.
That I could get away with andget people to do and, like, manipulate.
Like, are you.
Me, high school kids,including myself when I was there,
are stupid.
And the.
You could, like, just talk.
Oh, my God.
(36:46):
Like, I could.
I'd be a king.
And the thing.
Funny thing was, is, like, I'mlike, you.
Casey gives me all the timebecause she goes, dude, everybody
loves you.
And I don't understand it, andI hate it.
And I'm like, I don'tunderstand it either, but I love
it.
And I.
Because I'm with you.
Like, if you get to know me,I'm kind of a dumbass dick.
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And so I'm like.
And Casey all the time said, Idon't get it.
She goes, people just love you.
You Walk into a room and sayhi to anybody.
You can be a dick.
You can be an asshole.
And people just go, yeah, thatJJ guy, he's really nice.
Like, we were.
It's a good egg.
I'm just like, I don't know.
I don't do anything.
I'm not trying.
And maybe that's the issue.
Maybe that's.
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We just.
I don't try.
I know you don't try.
It's not like I'm going outand going, I need to make friends.
It's like, no, I'm just gonnago wherever.
And people just like me.
So I know what you're saying.
At least for me, they shouldn't.
Yeah.
The guarantee, it's the worstdecision you've ever made.
I'll tell people that.
Like, they'll be like, you'repretty cool.
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I'm like, yeah, worst decisionyou've ever made.
And it almost is like the.
The draw.
Like, that's what they want.
They're like, oh, no, now Ilike you more because you said that.
It's like.
Like, I'm not saying that tomake you like me more.
I'm saying this as a favor.
You should run as far away asyou can.
(38:08):
Yeah.
No, I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I usually tell people, therewill come a day when you will have
a.
You'll look at me and your jawwill drop because I will do or say
something that you're like, what?
And then you won't.
For you can't forget about it because.
And then it'll start to makeyou think about it and go, jj's an.
(38:32):
But I fooled you somewherealong the line, so.
And then you'll be so upset atyourself because now you'll start
to see it.
Yeah.
And nobody will believe you.
Yeah.
Eventually you'll think likeCasey and go, why do people like
him so much?
Oh.
Anyway, should we rate this thing?
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Let's do it.
All right, Alex, your movieget to rate.
I'm gonna give it four and a half.
And the reason I'm knocking itis for what I kind of said earlier.
Love, Matthew McConaughey.
Love everything he's in.
First movie he's in, and he'sin it too much.
Never.
Never gonna hear me say that again.
But it's be.
The only reason that I noticeis because of how well this movie
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is written, how well thismovie's done, that you can tell when
they said, hey, this.
This Matthew McConaughey guyis gonna be somebody special.
We need to put him into more stuff.
He's gonna help improve the movie.
And the experience is great.
But I've seen this movieenough times to be like, he doesn't
belong there.
He doesn't belong there.
This scene was obviously addedbecause, you know, all right, all
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right, all right.
Or, you know, be a lot coolerif he did.
And so though, those placescontribute to building the Wooderson
legend, right?
And then from there they'relike, oh, we should throw them in
here.
Oh, we throw him in here.
And he doesn't fit.
Yeah.
And so that's why I'm knockingdown to four and a half.
But still, I will sit down andwatch Dazed and Confused anytime
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anywhere.
I love this movie.
I will always watch it.
So, yeah, four and a half for me.
We'll be watching it again.
Yeah, I'm gonna be right therewith you.
Four and a half for me too.
I think along the same lines,I just broaden it to, like, there
are filler moments in thismovie that don't actually add any
value to it to a very valuable movie.
Like the, the.
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The.
When I think about value,like, I think about from like a risk
reward type perspective.
And for this one, it's likethe value there is.
How much is.
Is there for me to learn andhave fun and you know what I mean,
get from this movie versuswhere's the stuff they're doing?
Because they can.
And they're, you know, it'shigh school kids and so they can
do dumb.
So I think there's some thingsin there that I'm like, that's a
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little stretch.
Like, and for me, even asweird as it is, like, it bothers
me that the dude actually shotthe gun at these kids.
Like, happens if you hit onefor a mailbox.
Are you me right now?
Like, what's going on?
So there's just little thingsthat bothered me.
It's the 70s.
You're gonna put a band aid onand go back to school.
That's fair.
That's fair.
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They'll put a band aid on itand walk uphill both ways to get
to school.
I love it.
Yeah, but I Look, this movie's hilarious.
It's great story, great writing.
It's funny.
It just.
I just really enjoy it.
And I'm with you.
I'll watch it anytime andlaugh and have a good time.
It's just as good every time Iwatch it.
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So four and a half for me.
I will again watch this movie anytime.
So I will certainly bewatching again.
But I liked it.
It's a good Choice, my friend.
And a good way to kick off thesummer kickoff movies.
But before we jump into thenext one, why don't you tell everybody
where they can find us.
Happy to.
So like JJ said, this is June1st week we are doing summer kickoff
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movies.
So the, the whole month gonnabe some great summer choices, some
that maybe JJ and I kind ofagree that Matt's picked it up there
but.
But it's gonna be a great time.
Summer kickoff movies gonnahave a blast.
This is week one days fused.
So special thanks to ourpatrons Rich and Charles.
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and movies that go in that.
Guys, if you want to getinvolved in podcast selection for
movies topics, things thatwe're going to put out episode content,
Patreon is the place to do it.
Guys can get in on the voting.
Usually we open up a vote fortopics, choose topic for a month
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and then from there we put acouple movies in and it's a major
bragging rights if our moviesget picked.
For example, poor JJ went likeoh, for six months, fuck.
And then he just came up andswept all three of his movies in
June.
So it's, it's a little sidecompetition that we have.
So go in there, vote for yourfavorite one and you know you guys
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In addition to that, Patreon'sgot a ton of behind the scenes content,
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So plenty of content there foryou guys if you need some more.
What's our verdict in your life?
With that?
I will kick it back to theking of Crash, the Maharajah of mash
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a J.J.
that's right.
Yeah, Charles, old C.B.
he posted some more on on.
Hey yo in there.
Finally.
You know, he's telling us somestuff so we can talk about that offline
and make it fun episode stuff.
But yeah, come join us.
We love to hear from you,interact with you.
It's good times.
It's good to see Charles backin the in the mix and conversing
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with us again.
It's great.
Yeah, there it is.
Week one in June, Dazed and Confused.
As always, we appreciate youtuning in.
We'll catch you on the next one.
Hasta la vista, baby.
Cinematic.
Like 70's a wild time.
The mom with the shotgun isthe greatest thing.
Oh, and then the old dude's shooting.
Like he's shooting at these kids.
Yeah.
For a mailbox.
Yeah.
That's great.
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Welcome to the what's Everyday podcast.
We fashion ourselves cinematicjudge and Jerry.
My name is J.J.
crowder.
I'm here with my co host, Alec Burgess.
Let's get it.
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Yeah.
We're starting a new month.
That's crazy.
It's June.
It's June.
Time is flying this year, JJ.
Dude, 2025 is going likegangbusters fast.
It's nuts.
Dude, it's June.
But with June, come summer.
And with summer comes great movies.
Whether it's your blockbustersor whatever or the classics that
(01:09):
we're gonna talk about.
Some of them, I don't know howthey ended up in a summer film selection,
but that's okay.
We'll talk about them anyway.
And if you haven't noticed,Matson isn't here.
I'd feel sorry for him, butthe son of a is in Spain, so.
Yeah.
So having the greatest summerexperience ever.
Yeah, he can go gfy.
(01:32):
And we will do this podcastwithout him and the next one too.
So while he's in Spain, I hopehe's having a good time.
But with that, we're jumpinginto summer kickoff movies.
And to kick it off, we'regoing straight to the.
We're just going straight for it.
So Dazed and Confused, it wasreleased September 24, 1993.
(01:56):
It was written by Richard Linklater.
It was directed by Richard Linklater.
It stars Jason London, WileyWiggins, Matthew McConaughey, Rory
Cochran, Joey, Lauren Adams,Mila Jovovich, Sean Andrews, Adam
Goldberg, Anthony Rap, Sasha Jensen.
I could go on and go on, but Iwill have to say Cole Hauser because
(02:16):
he's pretty funny.
But yeah, there's a lot ofpeople in this movie.
It's about the adventures ofhigh school and junior high students
on the last day of School inMay 1976.
That's as good a synopsis asyou can get for this particular movie.
Alec, this was your choice, dude.
I want to hear all about whywe're watching and talk about Dazed
(02:36):
and Confused.
This was my pick and it wasalways going to be on the list.
Summer movie, Dazed and Confused.
You're never gonna find abetter one in my opinion.
The interesting thing thoughis, right, so it's well known fact,
I have a huge man Crush onMatthew McConaughey.
So like Matthew Conahay firstmovie though, also just amazing.
(02:58):
But the problem that I havewith the movie is you can tell where
he doesn't belong, but thatthey liked him enough to put him
back in there.
And so it, it's a little bitjarring here and there, but Wooderson
is one of the greatest filmcharacters ever created, like hands
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down.
And if you're talking summermovie, he fits the bill for exactly
what you want.
Small town kind of vibe.
Just, it's amazing.
And so every time I watchthis, this movie creates almost that
not necessarily nostalgia, right.
Because I didn't live in the70s, I was born the same year this
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movie came out.
Right.
But it's, it's like takingback that simpler almost kind of
experience when you're youngerin that coming of age stuff.
And so that kind of, I guessexperience doesn't necessarily change
so much.
The surroundings change, butthe experience that you go through
in this coming of age, prettysimilar in the same vein of things.
(04:01):
And so sitting down to watchthis, it's like taking it back to
some good times, right.
And so I thoroughly enjoy justthrowing this on.
It's quotable, it's enjoyable.
You have just an all starstellar cast from like their beginnings
in Hollywood almost or nearenough to it that it's just an enjoyable
(04:23):
watch all around.
So I, I sit down and watchthis as frequently as I can.
Yeah, I was glad you picked it.
If you hadn't.
This is another one that I hada feeling because you had talked
about it as we were gearing upfor this topic.
But I was like, if he doesn't,I will.
Because this is a movie, man.
I remember being 12 years old,living in Kentucky, little tiny town.
(04:46):
I've told you guys it with onemovie theater that had like four
screens or some.
And when this Q movie cameout, like we didn't care about it
as kids because to your point,like the hell do I give a about 1976
for?
Like that's my parents stuff,you know what I mean?
And it was so.
But anyway, like so but thenyou have the older kids who were
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going when high school and wewere in junior high and you would
hear about Dazed and Confusedand you know, it's funny and it's
get.
They all do all sorts of crazyin it.
And I was like, we, so we, weWent and bought.
I don't even remember what webought tickets for, but it was some
PG movie.
And then we snuck in today confused.
And I remember being 12 yearsold, just laughing my ever loving
(05:29):
ass off at this movie andthinking, other than getting my ass
whooped by a bunch of seniorswhen I'm a freshman, I really want
to go to high school.
You know, it was like.
And it was.
And I'll tell you, as a 90skid who got to see this movie, like,
as you were growing, like, youalways wanted to be that kid that
took his licks and then becamepart of the crew and got to make
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out with his sister's body,like best friend.
And like, so it's just like wethought about that shit as kids.
Like, we would reference thismovie constantly when I was a kid
and talk about, man, you gotto be like, so and so.
And I got.
And that joke.
I mean, it's so inappropriatenowadays, people, they lose their
minds.
But like, the whole.
The, these high school girls,they stay the same.
I get older, but they stay thesame age.
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Like that line, like, we did that.
Like, seriously, there's somany quotable things and this movie
just holds up, like.
And I.
So it's been a very long timesince I'd watched this movie, actually,
which is surprising becausethis is one of my favorites.
But when I was sitting therewatching it yesterday, going, oh
my God, why do I not watchthis, like, all the time?
(06:34):
Because it's just.
It's just great, man.
It's.
And I a lot sometimes on thispodcast about movies that have no
point.
This is the greatest moviethat has no point.
Like, seriously, like, thereis no point to this movie.
But that's what makes it great.
Because that age, there's notreally a point.
(06:55):
You know what I mean?
Like, anyway, it's just so interesting.
But yeah, I was so glad thatyou put this on the list and it got
voted for because I was like,this is.
This is what I'm talking aboutright here.
So something else that kind ofhit me on this watch through, I'll
say is the kind of thisconcept of almost positive bullying.
(07:16):
Yeah, right.
Or the rite of passagebullying, where it's.
It's almost like bullying'slost that.
Oh, yeah.
And the betrayal and stuff.
And it's all right to bullysomebody as long as you, you know,
don't leave them hanging.
And it's just out of maliciousness.
But you have this almost, youknow, we.
We get the experience forMitch, right?
And it's like, hey, yeah, he's.
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He gets up.
But that opens all these doorsto a summer night and a summer experience
that he's never gonna forget.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's a cool one where he'snow part of the game.
He's invited in.
It's coming into, you know,high school and.
Which is a very, you know,awkward time for anybody.
And you don't.
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You're still figuring yourself out.
And it's almost like takingall that awkwardness in the 70s and
just kind of like getting allover with it once, pushing it through.
And now he's, you know, kindof past that stage.
Right.
So it's now no longer reallytrying to figure yourself out.
It's kind of the.
The same mentality of, youneed to learn how to swim.
You just toss someone into thewater, and then they'll figure it
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out.
But it's kind of taking the shortcut.
And, you know, someone whoprobably would be, based on look
and attitude and everything,he would be a total loser in high
school.
And we wants to hang out withhim, but instead, because, you know,
this kind of process happens,he now is, you know, part of the
crew.
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And it's like, hey, that'slike positive bullying.
Like, I'm all about thatbecause I'm a huge bully, but I'm
an asshole about it.
And so I was like, this.
This actually could be used ina way to still bully somebody, but
make some good come out of it.
Bring back bullying.
That's what I say, dude.
I'm telling you.
So I.
It's funny that you say that,and I know it's like you made part
(09:04):
of it as a joke and.
But the other part is very serious.
But I'm telling you, I think that.
And listen, let me differentiate.
There's shitty bullying.
Like, there's actual.
Like, someone's an.
Had a tough life, whatever itis, and they have to be a human being
to make themselves feel betterby actually bullying.
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And that should not.
That's not okay.
That needs to be fixed.
We need to actually put moreattention on the bullies as well
as those being bullied.
Right now, we just look atbullies and go, you, man, you're
a bully.
But instead, there's a reasonthat they're bullying, and we need
to get down to that.
We lose track of that.
Right.
It's either you're.
You're the victim or we'recanceling you.
It's one or the other.
There's no in between and that.
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And here's the crazy part.
So as a Kid, like, And I knowyou're like, you said you.
I was 12 when I was.
And you were being born.
I was born.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So it's like I even.
But even so, like, thedifference, I'm sure when you were
in high school was stillprobably different than my experience
because I'll tell you rightnow, like, we didn't get paddled
or anything like that fromlike, they didn't chase us down on
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the last day of school going,you're now a freshman in high school.
We're give you some whoops.
Now.
It's.
I wouldn't have put it pastpeople where I grew up and went to
high school, but no, like, butwe had, like, we got bullied.
And not.
But to your point, not in avindictive or shitty way, it was
a welcome to the party, pal.
You got to pay your dues kindof, right?
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And it could come in different forms.
Like, I got.
There was.
So I went to high school in Kentucky.
And right by our school, therewas this really ugly, nasty creek
that ran and it was pretty deep.
Like it was.
There was runoff, there was concrete.
Like it was a city built thing.
And then it went into anactual creek.
But I can't tell you how manykids like got thrown into that thing.
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And it was gross.
And I was one of them.
So I got thrown into it.
But you know what?
I got thrown into it.
I probably.
It was gross.
I swam out, I went into theschool showers, I took a shower,
I gotta change clothes.
And I wore some stupid ass,like, lost and found clothes for
the rest of the day, right?
And I was pissed.
And when I got home, my momwas pissed because that water's dirty
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and gross and who knows, like,I might have caught hepatitis just
by getting.
You know what I mean?
But like, that was.
But at the same time, one ofthe kids that threw me in there became
one of my best friends.
Like, I still talk to themtoday, right?
So it's like nowadays we lookdown and that's why I was laughing,
like, I watched this movie andI go, people would lose their minds
(11:37):
if this happened today.
Like, people be going to jailfor spanking these kids.
And I go, you know what?
They're not dead.
They're not broken.
They don't need to go to adoctor, they don't need to go to
the hospital, be pissed off,find a way to get back and dump some
paint on o' Bannon's head, right?
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But, like, don't.
Why do we always have to go to this.
And, God, I'm getting sophilosophical about Dazed and Confused,
but it just points out to me,like, why do we have to go to the
super victim level, where it'slike, it's not okay for idiot kids?
Because, let's be real, Kidsare stupid, kids are annoying, kids
are aggressive.
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They gotta figure out.
And one of those things isfiguring out, who can you get along
with?
Who can you, you know, who cantake it, who can't?
Who.
Who do you need to grab a hold of?
Like, you got pink.
That's taken in Mitch, right?
Like, he's like, look, man,that sucks.
We did it to you.
I.
He gives him the little tap,right, that keeps him cool with the
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seniors.
But then he helps thisfreshman kid, like, have the night
of his life, right?
You know, because he's like,come with us.
He's like, is that okay?
Yeah, man, you're good.
You took your deal with it.
It's gonna suck.
But now you figure it out.
And look, he's probably gotfriends for life of these people
that everybody else wasrunning scared from and think they're.
When it came down to it, like,they took care of him, right?
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And I get.
Not everybody's like that.
There are real shitty bullies,like I mentioned earlier, but this
isn't it.
But these people would get in trouble.
You get kicked out of school,you know, because they're doing that
stuff.
And I.
I just think there's pieces ofour humanity that are missing because
we don't allow.
And I don't want to call itbullying because I don't believe
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they're the same thing.
But the bullying, I mean, youknow, the fret, like you said, the
positive bullying, or thebullying that creates friendships
and make.
And is done with goodintention, not to actually harm or
to hurt anybody, but toactually say, look, man, welcome
to high school.
This sucks.
But the rest of it's going tobe great.
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And you'll get your turn later.
Yeah, when you're a senior,you get to dish that out.
It's like that.
It's like that continuing.
Not really mentorship, butit's that continuing the tradition,
passing it down, whatever typeof a thing.
Yeah.
So to your point, I thinkwhere we lost it was from the side
of the bullying, right?
Where it's turned even moreand more or become more about, you
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know, straight victimizing or,you know, getting your licks in from
a power move or something like that.
And it's.
It's lost what they show here,which is that, yeah, I'm Gonna throw
you in the creek.
Like, what you experienced.
I'm gonna throw you in the creek.
But because of that, that'salso how I know that I can get along
with you, that I like you typeof a thing based on your reaction
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to it.
And so, yeah, you have thatkind of.
You're losing that and losingthat almost sense of community in
a weird way, because itdoesn't seem like it.
Right.
But it's that interaction, community.
And, you know, I mean, my joband people that I hang out with,
like, I don't have a lot offriends, but the ones I do, oh, we
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are terrible to each other.
It is like, we can't have HRat my company because all of us would
get fired in about 10 minutes.
And so it's.
It's that kind of, you know,the way we rib on each other, the
way we interact, the way we talk.
And people have actually come,like, from the outside in and turned
(15:10):
around and gone right back outin a couple weeks because they.
They just don't understand orthey can't fit into it because it's.
It's everybody.
It's like, we'll even takedigs at ourselves sometimes more
frequently than each other.
But it's that idea of, youknow, you're gonna come in, it's
gonna be a mixer and ablender, but at the same time, if
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you're, if you're having arough time, like, and I know that
when I put you through shit,like, you come out or you give it
back, like, I'm more likely tohelp you out and be on your team
and your side.
When I can clearly see that,oh, hey, you're struggling with this
versus, you know, someone Idon't know, I don't know how to interact
with, then it's just almostwalking on eggshells to try and figure
(15:54):
it out.
It's this little dance of, youknow, I don't really know how to
interact in this place.
And so I hate making new friends.
Yeah, I don't.
I don't have any because I, I.
I just can't interact with them.
Yeah.
Because the way that Iinteract is in this very, you know,
demeaning kind of feeding backand forth, like, sarcastic.
(16:18):
I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonnawait until you're at your lowest,
and I'm gonna kick you downeven further.
But at the same time, there's,you know, that kind of once.
Once it's kind of establishedthe boundaries or whatever from there,
then it's like, all right, IKnow where to go.
I know how to do this.
Yeah.
And it's a.
It's a closer bond, in myopinion, than someone who you just
(16:38):
interact with on a surface level.
That makes sense.
No, absolutely.
It makes perfect sense.
Like I said, one of my bestfriends still to this day was a bully
to me, and we're nasty to it.
I mean, you got, you know,like, me, you, and Matson.
And, like, a lot of times, thepodcast doesn't see it all the time,
like, in the episodes werelease, but.
(16:59):
But God damn.
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We all over each other.
You know what I mean?
Like, on the daily.
Yeah.
And it wouldn't be fun if we didn't.
Like, that's what we do.
And that's how I know I wantto keep doing this with you guys,
because it's fun, and we getafter each other, and it's hilarious,
and.
Yeah, I would be.
So.
And that's always been.
(17:20):
Yeah.
I think I talked to my nieces, and.
And, you know, my one niece isgraduating next year, and my other
niece is a freshman this year.
And it's like, I listen tohim, and they talk about how everybody's
just so soft with each other,and I'm just like, man, you guys
don't even know.
And I.
I hate saying that, because Ihated it back when I was in school,
and people from the 70s, like,you guys have no idea.
(17:42):
And I'm like, yeah, that'svery true.
Now, you know, I understandwhere they're coming from, because
I do.
I.
I talk to my nieces andnephews all the time, and they're
like, oh, this, that, or the other.
And someone was doing.
And I'm like, who cares?
I'm like, just roll with it.
It's like you get more respect.
I mean, unless they're tryingto actually hurt somebody.
Yeah, that's different.
But if they're just, like,giving you a good ribbon, or they
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just, you know, poking you, orthey just, you know, that's a.
Take a paddle to your assenough to give you a bruise.
Who gives a.
I don't have to go to the hospital.
I'm not hurt.
I'm gonna go get past it, andthen we'll laugh about it.
And then someday I'll tattoosome freshman's ass with a powder.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's just.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like you said, it's this pattern.
It's a cycle.
And I think there's somehealth to it that we've gotten rid
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of because we're so afraid ofthose outliers.
And I truly believe they'reoutliers that take it to a place
where it's pure victim.
Like, oh, you know, thislittle joke was meant to hurt me.
And everybody just gets sooffended by everything.
Like, Jesus, man, if thesekids hung out with me and my friends
(18:45):
when we were their age, dude,they'd be in freaking insane asylums.
We.
We tortured each other, and weloved each other for.
I mean, I still.
I go back to Kentucky, and Isee friends like Lamar and Caleb,
and we just walk right into.
What's up, you fat?
Yeah.
You're looking especially ugly today.
You know what I mean?
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Like, it's just, like.
It's the same.
You just fall back into it.
Yeah.
Because those lines of art andthen have already been drawn in the
sand, so to speak.
But the other kind of coolthing about this movie.
Like, this movie has layers to it.
Yeah.
Is we get that other side of it.
Right.
With Adam Goldberg's characterand that kind of side crew who doesn't
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participate.
Yeah.
And they're doing, like, thephilosophical thinking or the deep,
you know, kind of side quest,we'll say, to where they're not into
this sphere.
They're.
They're adjacent to it.
Yeah.
Right.
And so you.
You had this, as well, where,as, you know, they're.
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They're still showcasing thiskind of other side, which is the
side that's gonna be all aboutthe, you know, the proper way to
do things or this is the way.
You know, this.
I think at one point, hementions, like, the alpha monkey.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right.
And when he goes in for thefight at the end.
But you can see that it's.
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It stops.
It skips over that ribbing.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's because you have.
Adam Goldberg's character justisn't in the loop.
Right.
And so he kind of.
He.
He takes it a step further.
Right.
And goes straight to thepunching or the, you know, start
the fist fight type of athing, which, if you had that back
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and forth, never happens.
Yeah, Right.
If you have that ribbing,like, I've never wanted to punch
somebody that I have that kindof relationship with.
It's never come down to that.
But there's a lot of people.
I'm looking like, you shouldbe punched in the face right now.
Yeah.
And it's.
It's when that.
That relationship isn't thereand you don't have that connection.
And so it I was kind of likewatching through this, like, oh,
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shoot.
They showed the.
The other side of this aswell, which is where you don't have
that mesh, you don't have thatkind of community going back and
forth with the mutual respectkind of in there.
And now you see where you havethat confrontation, you have that
friction, and what does itplay out to?
Like it.
It ends okay.
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Yeah, but that's because youhave outside help stepping in.
And if you don't have thatoutside help or that, you know, kind
of third party, I'll say, then.
Then that's where you haveyour issues kind of coming down.
Because now there's, you know,someone that there's a communication
barrier, for lack of a better term.
So I kind of enjoyed that too.
(21:30):
And I was sitting therewatching, probably had the same experience
you did where I was like, thismovie, now that I'm watching as part
of podcast now, I'm looking atit like a movie instead of just like
sitting down and watching it.
And I was like, ah, it's still enjoyable.
But I was like, ah, no, it's ruined.
(21:51):
Dude.
I'll tell you, the podcast hasruined many a movie for me.
In fact, we'll talk about onenext time.
But, yeah, so.
But I'm with you.
I think there is more depth tothis movie than I ever gave it credit
for.
And I think for me, Pink isone of those examples too, where
he's just kind of this guythat's floating in the middle.
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Everybody gets along with him,but he's got this hard decision to
make, right?
Like, he wants to play ball,but the coaches put him in this shitty
position where you got to signthis honor form horseshit.
And I love watching thatprogression where he's, like, trying
to decide, like, do I want.
Is it okay for me to conformin this situation and do I need to
do that to maintain who I amand what I love to do?
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Or do I really need to leaninto this part that we see in the
movie where it's thiscarefree, want to have fun, and it's
like the older people, and Ilove that conversation near the end
when they're on the 50 andthey're talking about the form and
it's.
You're like the fourth personthat gave me this form today.
And then, like, you have thatmoment of the two sides pulling at
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him, right?
Like, I need.
I can sign this thing and, youknow, whatever, do what I need to
do and play ball and what.
And then.
But then I don't get to be meat that point, right.
Like, I'm.
What am I sacrificing just for this?
And so I love that moment whenhe confronts the coach and he's like,
I might play ball, but I'm notsigning this.
Right.
And throws it back.
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And I think that's really, forme, one of the coolest progression
is to watch him go, I want todo this, but there has to be some
bucking of this system becausefor them to make me sign this, that
signs away the things that Ineed to be experiencing right now
to become who I'm going to beafter school.
(23:36):
Right.
Because school's such a tinypiece of life.
And when you get past it,like, you have to decide who am I
going to be.
And so in that moment, hedecides, I'm going to do more than
just conform and play footballand be willing to, you know, make
sacrifices in order, for one thing.
I mean, it depends on what it is.
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But I just love, like, that'sone of my favorite progressions,
rewatching as an adult andlooking at it from like a point of
view of where does this movie go?
There is a lot of depth therewith a lot of characters.
Like, even the lack of depthfor some characters is depth in the
movie.
Yeah.
Like Ben Affleck's character,like, that's the kind of guy that,
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like, you look at and you go,man, his identity is so wrapped up
in being this and being a dickand having, like, he'll never have,
most likely he'll never havereal power or real influence in his
life.
So he has to assert this levelof dominance.
And then the whole joke abouthim failing so he can do it again.
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Right.
Like that.
It's.
It's wild to me, like how acharacter that's barely in it and
only is a one, you know, thisone dimensional character, but when
you look at it, it, and youput it in the whole scope of the
movie, there's a lot more toit than just him being this.
So I like that.
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I was just gonna follow up andsay, like, especially with the pink
stuff, like, what's nice aboutit is this movie doesn't.
Doesn't do anything thatwouldn't make sense.
Right.
So he.
He's clearly that kind of gothis own set code of honor.
Right.
Like everybody else on theteam signs this paper fully knowing
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that they will break it, butthey sign it because here it comes
down the line.
He's kind of looking at.
He's like, well, I'm not gonnado this.
Right?
Yeah, I'm not gonna follow this.
I'm not just gonna sign it andsay I will when I know I won't.
Right.
It's kind of that sense code, honor.
And it makes sense based on,you know, we see him with Mitch,
he gives the light tap, offersdrive him home.
Right.
Brings him in it.
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Follow.
Like he follows his own moralcompass, his own code of honor.
Yeah.
In its own way.
And he's not just, you know,signing the paper to sign it and
fully just knowing that he'sgonna break it.
Right.
I would do that.
I'd be like, oh, yeah, sure,yeah, immediately break it.
And so it's kind of a cooladded depth to it that, you know,
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solidifies, hey, this guy'smore than just your typical meathead
quarterback that you, you.
You would see typically inthis movie.
Yeah, right.
He's got this sense of codethat he follows and morals, understanding,
and he sticks to it no matterthe situation that he's in, whether
he's hanging out with, youknow, his buddies or a freshman or
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he's hanging out with Wooderson.
He's the same person.
Yeah.
And so they don't throw anykind of these twist little things
in there that would make Pinkor any of the other characters not
really fit just to tell the story.
Yeah, they tell the story withthe characters in mind and having
them stick to almost this, youknow, this story in this writing
all makes sense.
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Yeah.
It's a very well written moviewith a lot of great dialogue, good
conversations.
I will say that in the 70s, itmust have been nice to be able to
drive like a NASCAR driverthrough the streets of a town and
not get hammered for that,because Even in the 90s, we were.
I wasn't getting away with that.
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Like, we did do some stupid inthe car.
There was like a hill inKentucky that we used to jump when
I first got my license.
And now it's fun.
We almost died a couple times, but.
But, like, I can't.
That first opening chase scene.
Just go for broke, man.
Yeah, dude.
And the amount of guns thatget pulled on kids.
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It'S like 70's a wild time.
The mom with the shotgun isthe greatest thing.
Oh, and then the old dude'sshooting like, he's shooting at these
kids.
Yeah.
For a mailbox.
Yeah.
That's great.
It's great.
I love it.
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Yeah.
Okay, so I will say.
I will say the part I don'tlike is my favorite part.
And the fact that we get toomuch Wooderson in places he doesn't
belong because they likedMatthew McConaughey did such a great
job.
And that pulls me out a littlebit because it's the only part of
this movie that doesn'texactly fit.
Yeah, right.
Like at the 50 yard line, youknow, he's not supposed to be there.
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Yeah.
But he's there becauseWaterson is amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so it's.
It's just kind of like.
Because I love him.
I love more screen time, buthe's not supposed to be there.
And it can it.
With such a great writtenstory, you can see the mistakes that
are made by adding them in.
Whereas this.
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This more loosey goosey kindof plot and, you know, up and down
all around, it gets hiddeninto it.
But these are so blatantlylike, he.
He was not meant for thisscene that it's.
It just nails on a chalkboard almost.
Yeah.
For me, where I'm like, oh,yeah, yeah.
There are some moments too, inthe dialogue that I'm like, okay.
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Like, I'm trying to like,there's the.
The part where Pink is talkingto Joy Lauren Adams character after
he's made out with this othergirl, like, the one dude's sister.
And, like, he's having this conversation.
Like, that conversation, like,grates on my nerves so bad because
I'm just like, this doesn'tadd any value to me, especially with
that character.
(29:20):
Right.
Like, he.
I don't care.
Like, I like him and thedude's sister together.
Like, that was like, oh,that's a good pick.
And then all of a sudden,she's like, making a big deal.
Like, I'm.
Okay, first of all, don't makeout with this dude if you're gonna
be all weird about it.
Then, like, he goes to JoeyLauren Adams and they're talking
and I'm like, you obviouslydon't like this.
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You're having thisconversation that's partially serious.
And, like, I just don't buy it.
And I.
It.
Maybe it's because of JoeyLauren Adams, the dry.
Like, never been a big fan ofher in most cases, but it also just.
To me, that dialogue didn'tadd to the value of the movie, which
is interesting because I knowsome of that had to be added because
they're like, we need it to belonger than, like, an hour and 20
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minutes because it's arelatively short movie.
Yeah.
And so, like, Yeah.
I mean, unless you're lookingto edit a bunch of stuff out, it's.
Yeah, you're gonna be introuble at some point.
But I do think that there weresome weird conversations That I was
like, what?
But other than that, like so funny.
It's just so, so, so funny.
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Yeah, no, it's.
It's a.
It's a great watch.
I.
I crack up just uproariouslyevery single time I watch it because
it's just full of greatquotability, good one liners and
I mean even.
What's it.
Is it Ryan Cochran?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude.
(30:45):
Just classic stoner.
So good.
You can't.
It slurs his words.
You have to almost watch hislips move to figure out what he's
saying.
His eyes are.
Is red, like just around.
It's just great.
It's such a great performance.
Oh yeah.
Just fits the bill so well.
And he's.
He's clearly having a goodtime and having fun while he's doing
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it.
Oh yeah.
And so it's little things likethat where you can tell the cast
is also having just a blastmaking this movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This movie does make me wantto go get some trees.
Every time I'm like, gotta hitthe trees.
It's time for some tree love.
Like.
Yeah, it's just great.
Like I Love the Part 2.
At the very beginning whenthey're having.
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We're talking about the partyand the dad, they're getting ready.
The dad, mom and dad early.
He comes up and they're like,dude, dude.
Because he's just holding thefreaking bag of trees in his lap
and it's like.
And then he's like, oh.
And tucks it under his shirt.
Like he's just sitting therestaring at it for a minute.
Like they're like, dude, likethat'd be that guy, like just staring
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at it going, that's what I want.
Not.
I don't want to hide it.
I want to roll it.
Yeah.
And I love that they all hadpapers in their glove box and they
all like just like man prepared.
I wish I had lived in the 70s.
Sometimes, like the thingsthat were like normal.
It was very hard to get thatkind of paraphernalia when I was
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in high school and I lived ina place where I was started in high
school in a place where thatstuff has grown on the regular out
in Kentucky.
Like I can't tell you how manytimes FBI shuts down marijuana farm
out in middle of nowhere Kentucky.
So weird.
Yeah, it was.
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It wasn't easy to get a holdof that stuff.
But movie makes me want tohave some every single time.
Oh, to be in high school again.
That's the other thing thismovie makes you think of.
Like if I Could go back tohigh school and know what I know
now.
And I didn't have a bad.
Like, I've had.
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I have friends who will talkabout high school.
And even I think Matson'smentioned, like, he hated high school.
And I'm like, I actuallydidn't have a problem with high school.
Like, I.
I had a good time in high school.
I didn't have a.
I didn't have a lot of enemies.
I didn't have a lot of people didn't.
Like, I had a few.
I got a lot of fights when Ifirst moved to Kentucky because,
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like, kind of like how itgoes, this movie.
They had to test you.
Like, what kind of person wereyou making order.
Yeah, you're gonna run overand cry to the teacher because we
found you and wanted to fightyou in the hallway.
Are you gonna take yourbeating and move on, or are you gonna
give out a beating and make usgo, well, maybe we shouldn't do that
again?
They grow different up therein Ohio.
Yeah, exactly.
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But I did, I'll tell you, whenI first moved to Kentucky.
We, as in seventh grade, sixthgrade, seventh grade.
I guess 12.
I was 11 when we first moved there.
You're getting so many fightsat first, and then again, at least
half of those fights becamereally great friends later on because
it's just how it was.
It's not.
We weren't in this to, like,beat the.
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Out of each other.
We were in it to see, can youhang, man?
Can you take it?
Like, are you willing to standup for yourself?
Are you willing to do what yougot to do?
And sometimes I was.
And sometimes I was like, oh,this is gonna suck.
I took a few beatings.
Yeah.
So, like, for me, anyway, high school.
I went to high school.
South California.
(34:17):
Right.
So it's already going to beway different than.
Yeah.
But then on top of that, youknow, we went to high school, you
know, 12 years apart orsomething like that.
And so then you have the timesadded in.
And so I had a very mild highschool experience.
But I was just thinking aboutthis the other day, like, I haven't
changed much.
So I'm one of those peoplethat is, like, for whatever reason,
(34:40):
people tend to like me andthey shouldn't.
Yeah, I am a terrible person.
I am the worst asshole youwill ever meet in your life.
But for whatever reason,people seem to like me.
And so I was that kid thateverybody kind of knew.
Right.
And I, like, I knew everybodyor everybody know me, but I wasn't
(35:02):
close to anybody.
I Didn't really do muchoutside of high school, like, going
to parties or stuff like that,because I had my circle of friends,
and we go chill or whatever it was.
Yeah.
And so.
So it's like, if I would goback and do it different, I'd probably
be more involved with otherthings, just go out and have fun.
But it's like, I don't feellike I missed anything because I
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was just.
I just haven't changed.
I'm the same.
Same.
Just, you know, and there's noreason to almost.
It's gonna sound terrible thisway, but it's like, there's almost
no reason to change becausefor whatever reason, whatever I'm
doing, people seem to like, so.
Oh, the Internet doesn't like you.
There you go.
(35:43):
Both worlds.
The Internet doesn't like me.
I did freeze.
So I was saying, like, Ialmost have the best of both worlds
in the sense that I could bethis absolute dick.
Yeah.
But people seem to be okaywith it when I do it.
And so it's like, do I.
Do I really want to give thatup for potentially a different experience?
No, not really.
That's fair.
That's fair.
(36:04):
No, I'm with you.
I.
I will say that I would, like.
I'd be interested to go back,knowing what I know now, just to
see what I.
I would go back.
And again, this goes back tothe point of I'm kind of a dick,
too.
I would go back for nefarious purposes.
Like, I would not go backbecause I had a bad experience and
I wanted it to be better oranything like that.
I would go back because I waslike, I think now.
(36:25):
And I go, man, if I knew whatI know now, if I was as smart as
I am and have the life experience.
We went back to high school, the.
That I could get away with andget people to do and, like, manipulate.
Like, are you.
Me, high school kids,including myself when I was there,
are stupid.
And the.
You could, like, just talk.
Oh, my God.
(36:46):
Like, I could.
I'd be a king.
And the thing.
Funny thing was, is, like, I'mlike, you.
Casey gives me all the timebecause she goes, dude, everybody
loves you.
And I don't understand it, andI hate it.
And I'm like, I don'tunderstand it either, but I love
it.
And I.
Because I'm with you.
Like, if you get to know me,I'm kind of a dumbass dick.
(37:06):
And so I'm like.
And Casey all the time said, Idon't get it.
She goes, people just love you.
You Walk into a room and sayhi to anybody.
You can be a dick.
You can be an asshole.
And people just go, yeah, thatJJ guy, he's really nice.
Like, we were.
It's a good egg.
I'm just like, I don't know.
I don't do anything.
I'm not trying.
And maybe that's the issue.
Maybe that's.
(37:26):
We just.
I don't try.
I know you don't try.
It's not like I'm going outand going, I need to make friends.
It's like, no, I'm just gonnago wherever.
And people just like me.
So I know what you're saying.
At least for me, they shouldn't.
Yeah.
The guarantee, it's the worstdecision you've ever made.
I'll tell people that.
Like, they'll be like, you'repretty cool.
(37:47):
I'm like, yeah, worst decisionyou've ever made.
And it almost is like the.
The draw.
Like, that's what they want.
They're like, oh, no, now Ilike you more because you said that.
It's like.
Like, I'm not saying that tomake you like me more.
I'm saying this as a favor.
You should run as far away asyou can.
(38:08):
Yeah.
No, I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I usually tell people, therewill come a day when you will have
a.
You'll look at me and your jawwill drop because I will do or say
something that you're like, what?
And then you won't.
For you can't forget about it because.
And then it'll start to makeyou think about it and go, jj's an.
(38:32):
But I fooled you somewherealong the line, so.
And then you'll be so upset atyourself because now you'll start
to see it.
Yeah.
And nobody will believe you.
Yeah.
Eventually you'll think likeCasey and go, why do people like
him so much?
Oh.
Anyway, should we rate this thing?
(38:52):
Let's do it.
All right, Alex, your movieget to rate.
I'm gonna give it four and a half.
And the reason I'm knocking itis for what I kind of said earlier.
Love, Matthew McConaughey.
Love everything he's in.
First movie he's in, and he'sin it too much.
Never.
Never gonna hear me say that again.
But it's be.
The only reason that I noticeis because of how well this movie
(39:14):
is written, how well thismovie's done, that you can tell when
they said, hey, this.
This Matthew McConaughey guyis gonna be somebody special.
We need to put him into more stuff.
He's gonna help improve the movie.
And the experience is great.
But I've seen this movieenough times to be like, he doesn't
belong there.
He doesn't belong there.
This scene was obviously addedbecause, you know, all right, all
(39:36):
right, all right.
Or, you know, be a lot coolerif he did.
And so though, those placescontribute to building the Wooderson
legend, right?
And then from there they'relike, oh, we should throw them in
here.
Oh, we throw him in here.
And he doesn't fit.
Yeah.
And so that's why I'm knockingdown to four and a half.
But still, I will sit down andwatch Dazed and Confused anytime
(39:57):
anywhere.
I love this movie.
I will always watch it.
So, yeah, four and a half for me.
We'll be watching it again.
Yeah, I'm gonna be right therewith you.
Four and a half for me too.
I think along the same lines,I just broaden it to, like, there
are filler moments in thismovie that don't actually add any
value to it to a very valuable movie.
Like the, the.
(40:17):
The.
When I think about value,like, I think about from like a risk
reward type perspective.
And for this one, it's likethe value there is.
How much is.
Is there for me to learn andhave fun and you know what I mean,
get from this movie versuswhere's the stuff they're doing?
Because they can.
And they're, you know, it'shigh school kids and so they can
do dumb.
So I think there's some thingsin there that I'm like, that's a
(40:39):
little stretch.
Like, and for me, even asweird as it is, like, it bothers
me that the dude actually shotthe gun at these kids.
Like, happens if you hit onefor a mailbox.
Are you me right now?
Like, what's going on?
So there's just little thingsthat bothered me.
It's the 70s.
You're gonna put a band aid onand go back to school.
That's fair.
That's fair.
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They'll put a band aid on itand walk uphill both ways to get
to school.
I love it.
Yeah, but I Look, this movie's hilarious.
It's great story, great writing.
It's funny.
It just.
I just really enjoy it.
And I'm with you.
I'll watch it anytime andlaugh and have a good time.
It's just as good every time Iwatch it.
(41:20):
So four and a half for me.
I will again watch this movie anytime.
So I will certainly bewatching again.
But I liked it.
It's a good Choice, my friend.
And a good way to kick off thesummer kickoff movies.
But before we jump into thenext one, why don't you tell everybody
where they can find us.
Happy to.
So like JJ said, this is June1st week we are doing summer kickoff
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movies.
So the, the whole month gonnabe some great summer choices, some
that maybe JJ and I kind ofagree that Matt's picked it up there
but.
But it's gonna be a great time.
Summer kickoff movies gonnahave a blast.
This is week one days fused.
So special thanks to ourpatrons Rich and Charles.
(42:03):
I don't know what Charles nameis for making the selection of topic
and movies that go in that.
Guys, if you want to getinvolved in podcast selection for
movies topics, things thatwe're going to put out episode content,
Patreon is the place to do it.
Guys can get in on the voting.
Usually we open up a vote fortopics, choose topic for a month
(42:28):
and then from there we put acouple movies in and it's a major
bragging rights if our moviesget picked.
For example, poor JJ went likeoh, for six months, fuck.
And then he just came up andswept all three of his movies in
June.
So it's, it's a little sidecompetition that we have.
So go in there, vote for yourfavorite one and you know you guys
(42:48):
can have a hand in creatingthe content.
In addition to that, Patreon'sgot a ton of behind the scenes content,
extra episodes, probably up towhat, 500 episodes now on the back
end of Patreon.
So plenty of content there foryou guys if you need some more.
What's our verdict in your life?
With that?
I will kick it back to theking of Crash, the Maharajah of mash
(43:09):
a J.J.
that's right.
Yeah, Charles, old C.B.
he posted some more on on.
Hey yo in there.
Finally.
You know, he's telling us somestuff so we can talk about that offline
and make it fun episode stuff.
But yeah, come join us.
We love to hear from you,interact with you.
It's good times.
It's good to see Charles backin the in the mix and conversing
(43:29):
with us again.
It's great.
Yeah, there it is.
Week one in June, Dazed and Confused.
As always, we appreciate youtuning in.
We'll catch you on the next one.
Hasta la vista, baby.
Cinematic.
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