April 28, 2025 • 38 mins
JJ, Mattson and Alec dive into a cinematic exploration of "Forgetting Sarah Marshall," a film characterized by its unique blend of humor and heartfelt moments. We delve into the narrative's examination of heartbreak and self-discovery, as the protagonist, Peter, embarks on a journey to heal from his emotional turmoil. Through a rigorous analysis, we highlight the film's adept portrayal of relatable characters and situations, which contributes significantly to its comedic essence. Our discussion further encompasses the performances of the ensemble cast, particularly the transformative comedic style exhibited by Jason Segel and the intriguing dynamics brought forth by Russell Brand's character. Ultimately, we reflect on the film's capacity to evoke laughter while simultaneously imparting poignant life lessons, rendering it a noteworthy entry in the realm of romantic comedies.
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The shirt cracks me up.
Like where he's just likeripping on the shirt.
He's.
Oh no, not the shirt.
Oh no, not the shirt.
Welcome to the what's up podcast.
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We fashion ourselves cinematicjudge and Jerry.
My name is J.J.
crowder.
I'm here with my co host Matt Senheiner.
Better Red than Dead.
And Alec Burgess.
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Oh, a shitty TV show actressabout us or a comedic dramatic musical
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with puppet writer about us.
It's a very niche, you know,job right there.
Yeah, there's.
But it's, you know, is what it is.
But yeah, look, we're in thefinal week of our montho Alec, or
weird shitty romcoms as it were.
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So chick flicks I think iswhat we were aiming for.
But Month of Alex sounds better.
Rolls up.
Yeah, there you go.
And to round out the month andthe topic we're doing forgetting
Cerem Marshall.
It was released April 18, 2008.
It was written by NicholasStoller, or sorry.
It was written by JasonSiegel, directed by Nicholas Stoller.
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It stars Kristen Bell, JasonSiegel, Paul Rudd, Mila Kunis, Russell
Brand, Bill Hader, LizKakowski, Mari Maria thayer and Jack
McBrayer.
It is about a devastated Peterwho takes a Hawaiian vacation in
order to deal with the recentbreakup with his TV star girlfriend
Sarah.
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Little does he know, Sarah'straveling to the same resort as her
ex and she's bringing alongher new boyfriend.
God, that's a long ass.
Synopsis that felt veryunnecessary for this particular movie.
You could have gone.
But it was, it was accurate though.
Unlike many.
Yeah, it was very accurate.
I think he could have beenlike, silly guy gets heartbroken,
ends up in same resort with.
With ex girlfriend and boyfriend.
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Yeah, forgetting Sarah Marshall.
This was my movie.
This is my one and only moviein the month though, Alec.
This is a movie.
I got a story about this movieas to that allows me to share why
I feel the way about thismovie that I do.
So when this movie came out, Iwas not a fan of Jason Siegel.
Like I didn't think he wasthat funny.
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Now at this point he hadn'tdone much.
Like he had some bit pieces inthe other stuff that the, the producer
of this film had done thatlike knocked up 40 year old virgin.
Like he had some stuff thatwas part of that and he was more.
But he was more of a comedic writer.
But you'd See him.
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And I, like, there was acouple things.
I just didn't like him.
I was like, I don't find himthat funny.
But that was true for that whole.
Most of that crew of, like, I don't.
Most of them, I don't findthat funny except in moments.
And so I was, like, reallyhesitant to go see this.
But I'm also all for a ratedR, like, romcom.
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Like, to me, I'm like, yes,please give me some adult humor with
some cursing and, like, thisis my kind of movie.
So I was like, okay, I likethese guys.
They do some raunchy.
I'm gonna go watch this movie.
And I love Mila Kunis.
So I was like, let's go watch it.
And I laughed my ass off atthis movie, specifically Jason's
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Siegel.
I thought this was some of thefunniest ever.
And then it's.
It kind of flipped a switchfor me with him to where I'll watch
pretty much anything that he'sinvolved in just to see it, because
I'm curious if it's going tobe as good.
Now.
He's had some really shittyfilms and some bad tv, but, man,
when he gets it right, thisdude gets it right.
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And in my opinion, this moviegets almost everything right.
Like, I.
I could see, like, I've knowndudes that become this SAP ass, dopey,
crybaby, son of a gun thatjust cannot get over a girlfriend
who's like.
And I'm just like, what isgoing on with you?
Like, Jesus.
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And so watching that play outon screen, to me was some of the
funniest I've ever seen.
And then, like, therecognition and like, just the.
The seeing that play out andthen, like, the funny that he says
and the dumb that he does andthen some of, like, the bit players,
like, the dude, the big oldPolynesian dude that he, like, makes
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friends with, it's like, I'mnot a baby.
You look like a big baby.
Like, it's just that dudemakes me laugh.
And then, like, the sillyreligious couple that are there on
their money moon and can'tfigure out sex, that makes me laugh.
There's, like, very little inthis movie that doesn't make me laugh.
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So that's why when we talkedabout the montho Alec and it was
gonna be raunchy chick flicks,like, this is the first thing that
popped into my head as araunchy chick flick was forgetting
Sarah Marshall, because, like,I'll watch this movie anytime, anywhere.
And I'm like, I was Sittingthere watching it.
I watched it a couple weeksago in preparation and we ran into
all our recording issues andso I was like, it, I'm gonna watch
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it again today while I'm working.
So I had my work going andthen in the background I had this.
I'm over here working,laughing my ass off the whole movie.
And I'm not even watching it.
I'm listening to it.
But yeah, just funny as.
So that's why this movie camehere and why it's my pick because
it just, it makes me giggle.
My other pick, which didn'tget picked was because I wanted to
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torture you two.
This one's because I, I lovethis movie.
So I'm curious to hear whatyou guys.
Have you guys seen this before?
Oh yeah.
But this is, this is one thatI forget about like all the time.
So it's almost the exactopposite is I know it, I like it
when I'm watching.
I think it's hilarious.
Yeah.
But I forget it exists.
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And I, I don't know why.
There's no real reason for it.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's funny becauseit's, it's something that forgetting
about Sarah Marshall, I forgetabout this movie even exists.
And so when it's going throughsomething to watch, someone else
has to suggest it because Ijust don't even remember that any.
That this is a film.
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Yeah.
But no, I enjoy it.
I really like Jonah Hill in it though.
Jonah Hill in this is likePeak Prime.
Jonah Hill, in my opinion.
Yeah.
Where he's just, he, he doessuch a good job being that annoying
little, you know, prick thatjust, it's, it's like he, he's there
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to ruin the movie, but hemakes it better.
Yeah.
And so every interaction hehas, especially with Russell Brand,
it's just phenomenal becausehe's got that, you know, kind of
like Weasley little, you know,annoyance that just does not shut
up at all.
It's the best.
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Yeah.
It's about time someone saidRussell Brand.
I think this is the first movie.
That I saw him in.
And then the next one I waslike, get him to the Greek or whatever.
But I'll never forget where hepets a furry wall.
Like, I just, I never forgetthat scene.
But Russell Brand in thismovie, dude, it's just that weird
dude.
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And he plays it really welland definitely makes you feel uncomfortable.
But then he spouts like wordsof wisdom and he actually is like
a stand up, like normal guy.
Just has some weird views onsexual morality.
And that's fine.
That's what he does.
But then I.
I just.
I appreciated his, like, cool,foreign, like, London vibes in this
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film.
And weird dude, but so funnyfor, like, the scenes that he's in.
He just like the dinner scenewhen they both didn't want to be
there.
Oh, my gosh.
Like, just.
The shirt cracks me up.
Like, where he's just, like,ripping on the shirt.
He.
Oh, no, not the shirt.
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Oh, no, not the shirt.
My favorite line of his iswhen Jonah Hill goes off on him in
that shitty British accent.
He's, like, all calm,collected, just.
And I love, like, that's thepeople with him in this movie.
He's just.
Is the same even keel and he'sjust like.
So was that really terribleBritish accent supposed to be me?
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Just the random ass lines thathe has.
He is really good in this film.
He plays that character lotsand things, but he definitely shot
that down pat.
Like, he just.
He can tap into that.
And for my first experiencewith him with, like, his leather
chaps and his body gyrationsand it's just funny.
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Like, that's why I really likethis me.
Jason Siegel's great.
Like, his giant bowl of cerealto his weird musical to his depression
of crying like an old lady.
And hotel guests were, like,reporting on it.
Like, oh, I mean, he wasreally great in this movie.
But Russell Brand is what thereason why I would go back and watch
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this movie.
He cracks me up.
Like, Kristen Bell's fine.
She kind of wears me a littlebit in this movie, but she's supposed
to.
That's what I always had to run.
I'm like, well, she's doingexactly what they wrote her to do.
So that's great because she's awesome.
And some other things.
Yeah, there's just a lot ofgood acting in this movie.
And they actually have jokesthat land pretty consistently throughout.
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And for a movie like this,that's to be commended because usually.
So we've talked about filmslike this, they just always go too
far.
They don't know, like, when toturn it off and turn it on.
And I think the thing Iappreciate about this movie is it's
usually always right where itneeds to be.
Yeah, I think I.
There's only one exception forme to that.
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And.
And it's ironic because it'sthe person in this movie that I typically
find the most consistentlyfunny being Paul Rudd.
Like, really?
You don't?
Like, Kudu cracks my up.
But Kudu goes too far a coupleof times.
Like, it's like, okay, it was funny.
You're pushing like, he's notfunny anymore.
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And.
Which is sad because, like Isaid, like, for me, Paul Rudd is
one of the most consistentlyfunny people out there.
But in this movie, like.
And I don't.
I can even tell you it's like the.
It's when he goes back andhe's like, I want to ride a wave.
And then you see him after,like, the whole coral incident.
Like, they.
He just pushes it, and I'mlike, okay, you need to make him
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go away, because the rest ofit's funny.
But, like, that's.
There's a couple of momentswhere I'm like, I don't need Paul
Rudd in my life.
But when he hits his kunu, oh,my God, like, I laugh my ass off
when he's, like, the secondtime he meets him.
Yeah.
He's just straight the same.
Saying the same.
You gotta look like you gotsome pain behind those eyes.
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That part cracks me up.
What about you, Alec?
For kunu?
Well, it's the surfing instructing.
You're doing too much.
Do more.
Too much.
No, no, wrong.
Back down.
Get up.
No, back, just.
And it's.
It's that coupled with the.
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It's weird because it's a lotof timing.
Right.
It.
The Kunu scenes hit for me, Ithink, because the timing.
Because they almost just comein flying from left field as almost
filler space.
Sure.
But then you get these greatmoments of, you know, like, I don't
wear a watch.
You know, I moved out here, Idon't wear a watch.
It's like, yeah, because it'son my phone.
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He's got a perfect, logicalreason for not wearing a watch.
But you hear it all the timeabout people who do move to, like,
an island or something likethat, that, you know, time moves
different.
You're on that island time.
Type of a.
Yeah.
And so it's just so funnybecause they lead you down what you
think is a logical path thatjust turns left.
Yeah.
It's like.
Yeah.
So that cracks me up.
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But overall, it's a lot withthe timing in this movie.
That's just a.
An example of it.
But they do such a good job.
And I think breaking up thescenes and tying all the side characters
and are keeping them relevantso that you have these filler moments
that don't feel like filler moments.
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And I mean, we have so muchof, like, the.
The resort staff.
Yeah, right.
And normally that would justpiss me off because there's no reason
for it, but it is in many waysthe best Part of the movie, like,
straight from the, you know,killing the poor to the luau and
everything.
You can stop crying now.
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He's dead.
Yeah, that would.
That would give me, like.
That gives me, like,flashbacks to the story I told you
guys about, like, actuallyslaughtering pigs.
But, yeah, though.
I love that part, too.
I just.
That guy, that dude.
I can't remember his name, buthe's one of the funniest dudes in
the whole movie.
Like, when he's like, arethose sad tears or sad tissues or
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happy tissues in the face thathe gets when he says happy tissues?
He just pure disgusting on his face.
I love that.
That.
And then when, like, they goto the beach.
When he goes to the beach withMila Kudis, and she's like, if I
run, you run.
And then she goes in on thisdude, and the guy slaps that big
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dude, and he straight levelsthat guy immediately after.
What are you doing?
And he's w.
Like, I just love.
Yeah, he's my favoritecharacter this whole movie.
And I love almost all thecharacters in this movie.
So that's saying a lot.
But he.
Yeah, just this whole moviejust makes me laugh, but it kind
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of does what we talked aboutin our.
In the Patreon review.
Go check it out if you guyswant to see it.
Cost you some money, but it'sworth it.
But, yeah, like, the.
There's my shameless plug.
When we were talking about thefact that that's a movie in Saved
that touches on realisticthings, like, this is another movie
to me that while it goes wayout of bounds in a lot of places,
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it still is relatable enoughon so many levels that I'm like,
okay, there's not a singlepoint of view in this movie that
I can't relate to.
I mean, even right down to,like, forgetting Sarah.
Like, Sarah Marshall, right?
Where she's like, jesus, I'mso annoyed.
But then realizes later onthat what she had is better than
what she has in the momentthat she left him for.
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Like, I can relate on allthose levels to almost every person
in this.
Or the.
The weird best friend that you.
You know, or this.
The family member, thestepbrother, who.
Bill Hader just cracks me upon that, too.
That's another one.
But, like, that's for me.
What.
One of the other reasons Ilove this movie is everyone in it
is relatable on some level.
Right?
And so even if you aren't thatperson, you've known someone that
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fits that bill, they're soweird that they're cool or, you know,
they're kind of sad and they,you know, they dictate their whole
life is dictated by whothey're with at the moment.
And that's what they wrapthemselves into.
Or, you know, the grass isgreener person or the closed off
person because they had a bad relationship.
Like, there's just all thatthat Bill.
Hader and his wife would evermake me think of.
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And you know, this person, ifthis were Landon talking to Chase
and Lindsay, he just tunes himout because they're two married people
and they only dated each otherand don't know anything else.
Really.
Yeah, he just tunes them outlike nobody's business.
And like married people givingyou advice on, like, dating off.
It's like you, You're.
You totally forgot.
You don't even know whatyou're talking about anymore.
But I will say that the partof the movie that I care for the
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least is actually the scenesBill Haders.
And I'm not like a.
Oh, yeah, he's not my.
I'm not his biggest fan.
And while he's not bad inthis, and I think he adds quite a
lot in this, especially whenhis wife pops in, she's like, is
she listening?
And then she's like.
I'd really like a woman'spoint of view.
And I really.
I appreciate why they showed it.
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But that's where, like, wherethis movie is less funny for me,
if I was to take somethingout, it'd be those.
Because everything else Ithink is really funny, it's those
scenes I'm like, yeah, like.
But I know other people, like,euphrates think those are really
funny in some other spots thatI find funny.
That's why comedy is so hardbecause, yeah, they're trying all
different types of jokes.
And that's why this, to me,this movie should still be commended.
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That even those that I'm.
I don't think are as great, they're.
It's not that they're bad.
It's just.
It's not my Bill Hader type of humor.
He's just never been.
It would be like if Awkwafinawas on this.
Like, there was a show I wasabout to watch the other day that
looked intriguing on Netflix.
I don't remember what it was called.
And then the main.
The first name was.
I was like, oh, it's Awkwafina.
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Nope, can't watch that.
That passed.
I was like.
And I was like, damn.
Like, this looks intriguing.
That type of vibe.
Yeah.
Which is funny because when Ithink of those scenes in a lot of
ways.
I think of you and Taylor,like when we're playing video games
and you'll say some and then she'll.
Or I'll say some.
Here is Taylor yelling in the background.
And she's done it on thepodcast before, too.
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Like, that's.
Yeah.
So I always think about.
Yeah, you guys, I love thepart where Jason Siegel's character,
like when he.
When Peter makes his wife goup and down on the screen and then.
And then watch him go, oh, Iknow what you're doing, and that's
not funny.
And then he's like, yeah,that, that pearl necklace, is that
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new?
He's like, oh, that's gross.
That's one of my favoritescenes of this whole movie.
Just because it's so.
I.
I would be that guy, like,making like, setting someone up that
wouldn't notice it.
Do that kind of like.
Oh, yeah, that's your realtalk, though.
Have either of you ever had abowl of cereal that big where you're
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pulling, pouring the whole boxin a giant bowl like that?
I love cereal.
But Daniel, not that big.
But yes, I've done a normal bowl.
I eat it, or I have milk leftover and I'll put more cereal in.
And then I'm like, oh, man,this is so good.
I just need a little bit more milk.
Let me do some more.
But still, I don't even.
Dude, it was like, yeah, that was.
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Like a 20 person salad bowl that.
I knew that.
But I've done big bowls.
I wish I had it in here with me.
But Casey eats like, whenshe'll go.
So most of the time she eatslike Shredded Wheat and shitty cereal
that I'm like, why the do youeat that?
But every once in a while shegets a hankering for some Froot Loops
and so she'll buy her one ofthose big ass bags of Froot Loops
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and she has this mixing bowlthat she'll go and fucking pour half
a box of Fruit Loops and eatthe whole bowl.
So sugar it up, baby.
Yeah, I've never done it.
Like, I've eaten it in like abowl that's probably like not a normal
bowl, but like a bigger, like,one you'd maybe make some Mac and
Cheese in or something for thewhole family.
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Then I'd cook it.
I'd do some cereal on that.
But it's like a quarter of abag of cereal.
Not that bowl.
But I laugh at that becauseI'm like, I could do that.
I'm not saying I Would, but I could.
Sometimes cereal just hits a spot.
It's rare.
I'd, like, rarely everactually eat it for breakfast.
And I try not to eat too muchfor it these days, but when I do,
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yeah, I can't, like, Taybought like Lucky Charms or banks
for like St.
Patrick's Day or whatever.
I just couldn't contain myself.
I ate the shits out of that cereal.
And it depends on the cereal too.
Like, you could have all theboxes of Cheerios in my house, which
I enjoy.
Cheerios.
I like Cheerios.
I'm not eating them in a giantass bowl.
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Captain Crunch.
I would consider it the one.
The one I would do for ourlistening audience.
Reese's Puffs, man, thatcereal, if they.
It's a dessert, dude.
I put that in ice creamsometimes, dude.
Cinnamon toast crunch.
I'd eat a bowl that big.
And then I would make horchataout of the milk after I'm done.
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What about you, Alec?
What's your.
You.
Your.
Your cereal of your guilty pleasure?
I'm not big on cereal, butwhen I was, it was.
It was like a toss up betweentricks and Captain Crunch.
Captain Crunch.
Peanut butter.
Captain Crunch is also upthere for me.
Yeah, it's.
It's a lot of like.
Like the cereals you can snackon, right?
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Yeah, those cereals, like, ifI ever have it these days, it's more.
So I'll just pop it in, like,just heat it.
Like Frosted Flakes, I thinkis better just like straight out
of the box than actually.
Yeah, eating it with milk.
So it's because the milk wipesall the sugar off of them.
Yeah.
And so just eating back and forth.
I'm just eating Wheaties.
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And what the hell am I doingthat for?
Wheaties.
I'm no Michael Jordan.
I'm not gonna be good.
Yeah, that's.
I do love the big bowl.
I think the other thing.
And you guys tell me if therewas a Dracula musical comedy musical
with puppets.
Count me in.
I'm sure they had fun at theend of the movie and they were like,
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all right, we're done.
Now we just need to make themost ridiculous one minute scene
of a Dracula musical thathadn't been fun to do.
Oh, yeah, that's something Iwouldn't enjoy going or wouldn't
want to go to and then wouldend up having fun because.
Oh, she dragged me there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is textbook for Spidermanbecause Ochi's making the concerts,
the shows and stuff like that.
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And I'm like, not.
But she's picked some reallygood ones over the years.
That.
Yeah, it's like, that'ssomething that I'd be like, why are
we going to this?
This is stupid.
I would eat it all the way upuntil, like, you know, curtain.
Yeah, it was amazing.
I love it.
I love the whole, like, fromthe time we get introduced to the
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musical.
Like, I think that's so good.
And I love the fact that shelaughs at it when everybody else
typically is, like, confusedby it.
Because, like, I giggled.
Like, that first song that heplays in the bar, like, or the restaurant
or wherever the hell it is.
Like, I laugh at that becauseit's just such a funny concept of
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Dracula falling for this,like, and having this love story
beyond, like, the sinisterversion that you see on the movies
and whatnot.
Like, that shit's hysterical.
And then watching her laugh.
Yeah, I would definitely.
And then I watched the end ofit, and to your point, they had to
had a great time putting onthis puppet show in, like, for the
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movie.
But, like, I watched it and Igo, well, now I want to watch the
whole thing.
Like, I want to see all of it.
Like, because I bet it's hilarious.
Not that it actually exists,but I'd go see it for sure.
I mean, I think it also landsbecause Jason single, Siegel, like,
I mean, while he's not, like,a phenomenal singer, like, he can
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sing, like, and he actually,if you.
He's sung in some of his TV.
Shows and movies, like, he.
I mean, he went balls to thewalls in that scene.
That's why.
On those scenes, that's why Ithink it's appreciated because he
was actually, like, funny,like, good, but, like, he made it
funny good.
Like, when he really gets intohis, like, operatic voice with Dracula,
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you're like, all right, dude,like, game.
Yeah, well, one of the otherfunniest parts connected to him singing
is, like, when you first cutto him right before he starts working
on it and he's singing, like,that angry.
That part makes me laugh, too,every time he does it.
But, yeah, like, I like this movie.
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I like the how it plays out.
It's well written to JasonSiegel's, like, credit.
Like, it's a very well writtenmovie, too, in my opinion.
And, like, what I mean by thatis, like, one of my favorite parts
of this is I don't usuallylove flashbacks unless they're done
right.
And in this one, like, hisflashbacks of realization once he's
gotten into Mila Kunis'scharacter, Rachel, and he's, like,
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starting to see theDifferences where she laughs at his.
His song because she gets it.
And then it cuts to him, likewith Sarah Marshall, and she's telling
him, like, she's being kind.
It's not like she's being shitty.
She's just like, I just don'tget it right.
And so that connections.
I love seeing the realizationthat he has, like, once he sees something
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different because he's so lostin this depression that, like, he
doesn't see and he's.
And then he's been in therelationship for so long.
Because I love the first cuttoo, where it's like him, like, holding
her bag, like, off the camera,like 99 of the time, like, looking
bored and annoyed like that.
Like watching thoserealizations of the.
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That you put up with becauseyou were in it even though it wasn't
healthy for you.
And then noticing thedifference and that, that dynamic
of comparison, which most ofthe time comparison is not good,
but that comparison in thatlight, where it's a healthy comparison
of something, that's whysomething feels so good versus why
you're suddenly realizingsomething you thought was so good.
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It wasn't is so.
It was such an interesting wayto play it out on screen for me.
So I really appreciate thewriting of the film.
And, like, that's all.
I mean, he's the writer, so,you know, he knew what he was going
for and they really leanedinto it, which I liked.
But I think it has some reallygood points to it as well.
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Like points of real lifesituation of being in a relationship
for too long or for the wrongreasons, or tying your entire existence
up in one person and notrealizing that you have to do some
of that for yourself too.
Like, and if you don't, thenyou end up in that situation where
she obviously.
Because I think the other partthat's really interesting is as much
as her, Sarah Marshall'sannoying and, like, seems really
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awful.
And they play it that wellwhen she has that moment where she
breaks down and lashes out atJason, at Peter.
Like, I'm.
Like, I feel for her too,because it's obvious that she was.
She's tried and she came at itfrom different angles.
And his bad habits didn't playwell with her bad habits.
And so, like, figuring thosekinds of things out is not easy in
a relationship.
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And so, like, seeing the truthof the matter that they both cared
about each other, it justdidn't work for various reasons.
And they were oblivious toboth of them on their side.
Like, it's an interesting playon a very serious topic.
Done in a very non serious movie.
So I.
I appreciate that level ofintelligence in the writing as well,
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which I'm learning more and more.
Jason Siegel's good at that.
Yeah, there was lessons to belearned, for sure.
I think we're.
I mean, the other side youdidn't talk about is getting over
just a.
Relationship and how you getover that and the ways to do it.
And it's different for everybody.
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It could be.
It could be faster, slower.
Some people can get reallywrapped up in it.
They're vengeful or so sad anddepressed that they just push all
the good away in their lives,even their friends.
And you see a lot of differenttypes of that in this movie.
And yeah, you don't expect tohave life lessons in a comedic movie
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of this amount.
But I think to your credit,it's like you said, Jay, it's well
written.
So some of those things, theydo come through in a more comedic
way, which is a lot of the wayI like to learn.
Or you could be like RussellBrand's character and just be like
oblivious to everything andjust truly beat to your own drum
and that's it.
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Yeah, that's fair.
That's not a terrible way to live.
Might be a little lonely, butI did laugh when he's sitting on
the couch at the end and thelittle newly married brides, like,
smiling at him.
I'm gonna go have sex with her now.
That's just key.
That's just like.
That's amazingly funny to me.
Just like, all right, yeah,that would be an interesting lifestyle.
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But ultimately, at some point,get fairly lonely.
But yeah, so the othercharact, the other like.
And I mentioned them earlier,the other relationship that you see
in this, that just absolutelyhas me in stitches the whole time
is the young couple, like.
And like, especially like thatfirst scene, you see them where like
he's sitting at the bar andhe's talking about the struggles
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and she goes, let me do thatto you.
He's like, no, no.
It's like, if God wanted that,he wouldn't have put our mouths on
our head.
Like, it's just like.
Or like, sorry.
Where he says, like, what is it?
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The play, the fun house andthe like the sewage system in the
same.
I was a city planner.
Like, I just think that's someof the funniest that the whole.
And that too, because, like,I've heard horror stories from friends
of like, first night, firsttime not knowing what the to do and
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it being like a terribleexperience trying to figure that
out.
Like I've heard so manystories about that.
So watching that play out onscreen and thankfully they get their,
you know, their comeuppance ortheir happy ending, if you will,
thanks to Russell Brand'slessons on the giant chessboard.
But God almighty, that everyscene those two are in just cracks
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me up.
When she comes and gets himand licks his ear and he's like,
yay.
I hadn't seen in a while, so Ithought he was like.
I was like, I can't rememberif like he's actually like gay or
like in the.
Turns out to be in the, inthis film.
But then I was like, oh, yeah.
He just doesn't know how it works.
But he sure figured it out.
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It just, yeah, it cracks me up.
That's.
I.
There's so much funny aboutthis movie and some great one liners
and.
Yeah.
And it's visually pleasing.
Send me.
I, I go to Hawaii fairly oftenand send me back.
Yeah.
Jjb Too damn hot though.
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Although if you went to theBig island in where I actually stay
at our place now and up inWaimea, you'd be a happy man.
I would.
I've been Hawaii.
It was hot.
I liked it though.
I.
It was.
Yeah, I prefer, I like Maui a lot.
But yeah.
I've yet to hear someonetruly, actually hate on Hawaii.
If you're someone that'ssaying, oh, you probably got something
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wrong with you.
That's fair.
That is fair.
Yeah.
No, I love it.
I think Hawaii is great.
All right.
Which, yeah, it was abeautiful, beautiful backdrop for
this movie.
Like, great way to do.
Oh, and then him falling offthe cliff.
Oh, that.
And the last thing that Iforgot about.
And then like I'm sitting herethinking, because I made a note to
myself earlier today when Iwas re watching this to bring it
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up.
This has some of the greatestmontages in movie history.
Like, and there's like four of them.
Like, but all of them are great.
Highlighted by the one afterhe and.
And Rachel have sex the first time.
And like he's all figuringthis out and so he's like.
Or maybe it was when they,after they kissed after he fell off
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the cliff.
And he's like hanging out withlike the old people and the kids
and he's like sitting at thewedding just because he can.
Like, that montage makes melaugh every time.
And I, I think it's justclever the way they use the montages
because even at the last onewhere he's like writing his play
or whatnot, like, it's Justthe whole thing.
I was like, what a.
I don't usually love montagesall the time, but these are, are
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just well placed and funny andkeeps the movie at a crisp under
two hours.
So.
Yeah, pacing is, is strong in this.
Movie, which we know.
I appreciate.
Yeah, it, it, for an under twohour movie, like, it feels like an
hour and a half.
So it's, it's really nice.
But.
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All right, should we rate it?
You're up first, Jay.
Hey, I get to go first.
I haven't gone first in liketwo months.
All right, so forgetting SarahMarshall, I'm gonna give this a four
and a half.
I think it's great.
I think it's funny, I thinkit's well written.
I think it's true to a lot of life.
Even though it's very like onthe outskirts and you know, played
up from dramatic effect.
Like everything in here to meis relatable on some level, which
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is hard to do and make itfunny and over the top at the same
time and like push theboundaries of what most of the time
we would consider a proper,good, healthy movie to watch.
But it also covers so manygood life topics and has some great
one liners and it's just, Ijust really like it.
It's.
To me, it's watchable at any time.
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I think I.
The only reason I don't giveit a 5 is because of sometimes like.
And again, going back to likethe Paul Rudd scenes and then there
was like one of the bar.
Like there's one of the scenesthat I.
I don't remember the other onethat just like, I'm just like, okay,
I don't.
It's unnecessary.
So for me, like, there's justa couple little things that I'm like
clipping that out would havemade it the perfect movie in, in
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my mind, but.
Or one of the perfect movies,but still sticking with a four and
a half.
And I would watch this anytime.
Like, I can.
This kind of laughter in mylife is always welcome because I
laugh the whole time, so.
All right, Alec, what about you?
I think I'm gonna give it a 4.
I enjoy it when I watch it.
It's.
For me it's.
It's almost like the first 10,15 minutes are like the worst part
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of this movie.
And so it's getting past thatto get to where he's actually on
Hawaii, where you now have thesupporting cast get involved there.
The movie just takes off andit just kind of keeps going up.
And so like, like I said,someone else has to suggest this
movie, and then I almost haveto get past that first 15 minutes
or so before I really get intoit, really enjoy it.
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But, you know, when I watchthis, I.
I just laugh and it's.
It's a great laugh like youwere talking about.
So, yeah, I think I'll give ita 4.
I will watch it again.
Whenever Oshi says, hey, Iwant to see Jason Siegel, Siegel's
dick again, we'll watch it.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
I don't know what the decisionwas there on that one.
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It's a Judd Apatow thing.
He.
He made the commitment longago that every comedy he ever wrote
would have full frontal male nudity.
And he's lived up to it.
It's not a good.
Not a good thing.
I'm gonna give this movie A4.
I.
I mean, Alec basically tookeverything I was gonna say.
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I think you're welcome.
A little slow at the beginning.
Then it get into the meat ofit and it's amazing.
And then just.
I've already said this.
The Bill Hader scenes, if youeither made less of them or.
It's just not my cup of tea.
It's not that they're.
Some other people probablythink they're really funny.
They don't quite land as muchfor me.
But in terms of the pacing,most of the jokes consistently land.
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Phenomenal acting, good writing.
Like, it's.
It'd be hard pressed to find abetter comedy out there.
So I think it's.
It's pretty dang good.
If you haven't seen it as yourresident man of the people, as my
stamp of approval, go watch it.
That's good.
And if you're looking for moreJason Siegel, I.
(35:31):
I talked about with these guys earlier.
Go watch Shrinking on Apple tv.
Not sponsored, just a recommendation.
It's funny as hell.
And he's a co writer, produce,like creator of the show.
It's funny.
So anyway, yeah, there it is.
Forgetting Sarah Marshall, right?
It's a good wrap up to the endof a very interesting month of movies.
And looking forward to.
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To next month.
We're doing some war movies,so that should be intriguing.
We'll kick that off for themonth of May, but yeah, there it
is.
Alec, tell everybody wherethey can find us.
Happy to.
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So chick flicks I think iswhat we were aiming for.
But Month of Alex sounds better.
Rolls up.
Yeah, there you go.
And to round out the month andthe topic we're doing forgetting
Cerem Marshall.
It was released April 18, 2008.
It was written by NicholasStoller, or sorry.
It was written by JasonSiegel, directed by Nicholas Stoller.
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It stars Kristen Bell, JasonSiegel, Paul Rudd, Mila Kunis, Russell
Brand, Bill Hader, LizKakowski, Mari Maria thayer and Jack
McBrayer.
It is about a devastated Peterwho takes a Hawaiian vacation in
order to deal with the recentbreakup with his TV star girlfriend
Sarah.
(01:57):
Little does he know, Sarah'straveling to the same resort as her
ex and she's bringing alongher new boyfriend.
God, that's a long ass.
Synopsis that felt veryunnecessary for this particular movie.
You could have gone.
But it was, it was accurate though.
Unlike many.
Yeah, it was very accurate.
I think he could have beenlike, silly guy gets heartbroken,
ends up in same resort with.
With ex girlfriend and boyfriend.
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Yeah, forgetting Sarah Marshall.
This was my movie.
This is my one and only moviein the month though, Alec.
This is a movie.
I got a story about this movieas to that allows me to share why
I feel the way about thismovie that I do.
So when this movie came out, Iwas not a fan of Jason Siegel.
Like I didn't think he wasthat funny.
(02:42):
Now at this point he hadn'tdone much.
Like he had some bit pieces inthe other stuff that the, the producer
of this film had done thatlike knocked up 40 year old virgin.
Like he had some stuff thatwas part of that and he was more.
But he was more of a comedic writer.
But you'd See him.
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And I, like, there was acouple things.
I just didn't like him.
I was like, I don't find himthat funny.
But that was true for that whole.
Most of that crew of, like, I don't.
Most of them, I don't findthat funny except in moments.
And so I was, like, reallyhesitant to go see this.
But I'm also all for a ratedR, like, romcom.
(03:24):
Like, to me, I'm like, yes,please give me some adult humor with
some cursing and, like, thisis my kind of movie.
So I was like, okay, I likethese guys.
They do some raunchy.
I'm gonna go watch this movie.
And I love Mila Kunis.
So I was like, let's go watch it.
And I laughed my ass off atthis movie, specifically Jason's
(03:44):
Siegel.
I thought this was some of thefunniest ever.
And then it's.
It kind of flipped a switchfor me with him to where I'll watch
pretty much anything that he'sinvolved in just to see it, because
I'm curious if it's going tobe as good.
Now.
He's had some really shittyfilms and some bad tv, but, man,
when he gets it right, thisdude gets it right.
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And in my opinion, this moviegets almost everything right.
Like, I.
I could see, like, I've knowndudes that become this SAP ass, dopey,
crybaby, son of a gun thatjust cannot get over a girlfriend
who's like.
And I'm just like, what isgoing on with you?
Like, Jesus.
(04:27):
And so watching that play outon screen, to me was some of the
funniest I've ever seen.
And then, like, therecognition and like, just the.
The seeing that play out andthen, like, the funny that he says
and the dumb that he does andthen some of, like, the bit players,
like, the dude, the big oldPolynesian dude that he, like, makes
(04:48):
friends with, it's like, I'mnot a baby.
You look like a big baby.
Like, it's just that dudemakes me laugh.
And then, like, the sillyreligious couple that are there on
their money moon and can'tfigure out sex, that makes me laugh.
There's, like, very little inthis movie that doesn't make me laugh.
(05:08):
So that's why when we talkedabout the montho Alec and it was
gonna be raunchy chick flicks,like, this is the first thing that
popped into my head as araunchy chick flick was forgetting
Sarah Marshall, because, like,I'll watch this movie anytime, anywhere.
And I'm like, I was Sittingthere watching it.
I watched it a couple weeksago in preparation and we ran into
all our recording issues andso I was like, it, I'm gonna watch
(05:30):
it again today while I'm working.
So I had my work going andthen in the background I had this.
I'm over here working,laughing my ass off the whole movie.
And I'm not even watching it.
I'm listening to it.
But yeah, just funny as.
So that's why this movie camehere and why it's my pick because
it just, it makes me giggle.
My other pick, which didn'tget picked was because I wanted to
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torture you two.
This one's because I, I lovethis movie.
So I'm curious to hear whatyou guys.
Have you guys seen this before?
Oh yeah.
But this is, this is one thatI forget about like all the time.
So it's almost the exactopposite is I know it, I like it
when I'm watching.
I think it's hilarious.
Yeah.
But I forget it exists.
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And I, I don't know why.
There's no real reason for it.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's funny becauseit's, it's something that forgetting
about Sarah Marshall, I forgetabout this movie even exists.
And so when it's going throughsomething to watch, someone else
has to suggest it because Ijust don't even remember that any.
That this is a film.
(06:34):
Yeah.
But no, I enjoy it.
I really like Jonah Hill in it though.
Jonah Hill in this is likePeak Prime.
Jonah Hill, in my opinion.
Yeah.
Where he's just, he, he doessuch a good job being that annoying
little, you know, prick thatjust, it's, it's like he, he's there
(06:58):
to ruin the movie, but hemakes it better.
Yeah.
And so every interaction hehas, especially with Russell Brand,
it's just phenomenal becausehe's got that, you know, kind of
like Weasley little, you know,annoyance that just does not shut
up at all.
It's the best.
(07:18):
Yeah.
It's about time someone saidRussell Brand.
I think this is the first movie.
That I saw him in.
And then the next one I waslike, get him to the Greek or whatever.
But I'll never forget where hepets a furry wall.
Like, I just, I never forgetthat scene.
But Russell Brand in thismovie, dude, it's just that weird
dude.
(07:38):
And he plays it really welland definitely makes you feel uncomfortable.
But then he spouts like wordsof wisdom and he actually is like
a stand up, like normal guy.
Just has some weird views onsexual morality.
And that's fine.
That's what he does.
But then I.
I just.
I appreciated his, like, cool,foreign, like, London vibes in this
(08:01):
film.
And weird dude, but so funnyfor, like, the scenes that he's in.
He just like the dinner scenewhen they both didn't want to be
there.
Oh, my gosh.
Like, just.
The shirt cracks me up.
Like, where he's just, like,ripping on the shirt.
He.
Oh, no, not the shirt.
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Oh, no, not the shirt.
My favorite line of his iswhen Jonah Hill goes off on him in
that shitty British accent.
He's, like, all calm,collected, just.
And I love, like, that's thepeople with him in this movie.
He's just.
Is the same even keel and he'sjust like.
So was that really terribleBritish accent supposed to be me?
(08:45):
Just the random ass lines thathe has.
He is really good in this film.
He plays that character lotsand things, but he definitely shot
that down pat.
Like, he just.
He can tap into that.
And for my first experiencewith him with, like, his leather
chaps and his body gyrationsand it's just funny.
(09:06):
Like, that's why I really likethis me.
Jason Siegel's great.
Like, his giant bowl of cerealto his weird musical to his depression
of crying like an old lady.
And hotel guests were, like,reporting on it.
Like, oh, I mean, he wasreally great in this movie.
But Russell Brand is what thereason why I would go back and watch
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this movie.
He cracks me up.
Like, Kristen Bell's fine.
She kind of wears me a littlebit in this movie, but she's supposed
to.
That's what I always had to run.
I'm like, well, she's doingexactly what they wrote her to do.
So that's great because she's awesome.
And some other things.
Yeah, there's just a lot ofgood acting in this movie.
And they actually have jokesthat land pretty consistently throughout.
(09:51):
And for a movie like this,that's to be commended because usually.
So we've talked about filmslike this, they just always go too
far.
They don't know, like, when toturn it off and turn it on.
And I think the thing Iappreciate about this movie is it's
usually always right where itneeds to be.
Yeah, I think I.
There's only one exception forme to that.
(10:11):
And.
And it's ironic because it'sthe person in this movie that I typically
find the most consistentlyfunny being Paul Rudd.
Like, really?
You don't?
Like, Kudu cracks my up.
But Kudu goes too far a coupleof times.
Like, it's like, okay, it was funny.
You're pushing like, he's notfunny anymore.
(10:32):
And.
Which is sad because, like Isaid, like, for me, Paul Rudd is
one of the most consistentlyfunny people out there.
But in this movie, like.
And I don't.
I can even tell you it's like the.
It's when he goes back andhe's like, I want to ride a wave.
And then you see him after,like, the whole coral incident.
Like, they.
He just pushes it, and I'mlike, okay, you need to make him
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go away, because the rest ofit's funny.
But, like, that's.
There's a couple of momentswhere I'm like, I don't need Paul
Rudd in my life.
But when he hits his kunu, oh,my God, like, I laugh my ass off
when he's, like, the secondtime he meets him.
Yeah.
He's just straight the same.
Saying the same.
You gotta look like you gotsome pain behind those eyes.
(11:17):
That part cracks me up.
What about you, Alec?
For kunu?
Well, it's the surfing instructing.
You're doing too much.
Do more.
Too much.
No, no, wrong.
Back down.
Get up.
No, back, just.
And it's.
It's that coupled with the.
(11:38):
It's weird because it's a lotof timing.
Right.
It.
The Kunu scenes hit for me, Ithink, because the timing.
Because they almost just comein flying from left field as almost
filler space.
Sure.
But then you get these greatmoments of, you know, like, I don't
wear a watch.
You know, I moved out here, Idon't wear a watch.
It's like, yeah, because it'son my phone.
(12:00):
He's got a perfect, logicalreason for not wearing a watch.
But you hear it all the timeabout people who do move to, like,
an island or something likethat, that, you know, time moves
different.
You're on that island time.
Type of a.
Yeah.
And so it's just so funnybecause they lead you down what you
think is a logical path thatjust turns left.
Yeah.
It's like.
Yeah.
So that cracks me up.
(12:20):
But overall, it's a lot withthe timing in this movie.
That's just a.
An example of it.
But they do such a good job.
And I think breaking up thescenes and tying all the side characters
and are keeping them relevantso that you have these filler moments
that don't feel like filler moments.
(12:41):
And I mean, we have so muchof, like, the.
The resort staff.
Yeah, right.
And normally that would justpiss me off because there's no reason
for it, but it is in many waysthe best Part of the movie, like,
straight from the, you know,killing the poor to the luau and
everything.
You can stop crying now.
(13:01):
He's dead.
Yeah, that would.
That would give me, like.
That gives me, like,flashbacks to the story I told you
guys about, like, actuallyslaughtering pigs.
But, yeah, though.
I love that part, too.
I just.
That guy, that dude.
I can't remember his name, buthe's one of the funniest dudes in
the whole movie.
Like, when he's like, arethose sad tears or sad tissues or
(13:24):
happy tissues in the face thathe gets when he says happy tissues?
He just pure disgusting on his face.
I love that.
That.
And then when, like, they goto the beach.
When he goes to the beach withMila Kudis, and she's like, if I
run, you run.
And then she goes in on thisdude, and the guy slaps that big
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dude, and he straight levelsthat guy immediately after.
What are you doing?
And he's w.
Like, I just love.
Yeah, he's my favoritecharacter this whole movie.
And I love almost all thecharacters in this movie.
So that's saying a lot.
But he.
Yeah, just this whole moviejust makes me laugh, but it kind
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of does what we talked aboutin our.
In the Patreon review.
Go check it out if you guyswant to see it.
Cost you some money, but it'sworth it.
But, yeah, like, the.
There's my shameless plug.
When we were talking about thefact that that's a movie in Saved
that touches on realisticthings, like, this is another movie
to me that while it goes wayout of bounds in a lot of places,
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it still is relatable enoughon so many levels that I'm like,
okay, there's not a singlepoint of view in this movie that
I can't relate to.
I mean, even right down to,like, forgetting Sarah.
Like, Sarah Marshall, right?
Where she's like, jesus, I'mso annoyed.
But then realizes later onthat what she had is better than
what she has in the momentthat she left him for.
(14:52):
Like, I can relate on allthose levels to almost every person
in this.
Or the.
The weird best friend that you.
You know, or this.
The family member, thestepbrother, who.
Bill Hader just cracks me upon that, too.
That's another one.
But, like, that's for me.
What.
One of the other reasons Ilove this movie is everyone in it
is relatable on some level.
Right?
And so even if you aren't thatperson, you've known someone that
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fits that bill, they're soweird that they're cool or, you know,
they're kind of sad and they,you know, they dictate their whole
life is dictated by whothey're with at the moment.
And that's what they wrapthemselves into.
Or, you know, the grass isgreener person or the closed off
person because they had a bad relationship.
Like, there's just all thatthat Bill.
Hader and his wife would evermake me think of.
(15:38):
And you know, this person, ifthis were Landon talking to Chase
and Lindsay, he just tunes himout because they're two married people
and they only dated each otherand don't know anything else.
Really.
Yeah, he just tunes them outlike nobody's business.
And like married people givingyou advice on, like, dating off.
It's like you, You're.
You totally forgot.
You don't even know whatyou're talking about anymore.
But I will say that the partof the movie that I care for the
(15:59):
least is actually the scenesBill Haders.
And I'm not like a.
Oh, yeah, he's not my.
I'm not his biggest fan.
And while he's not bad inthis, and I think he adds quite a
lot in this, especially whenhis wife pops in, she's like, is
she listening?
And then she's like.
I'd really like a woman'spoint of view.
And I really.
I appreciate why they showed it.
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But that's where, like, wherethis movie is less funny for me,
if I was to take somethingout, it'd be those.
Because everything else Ithink is really funny, it's those
scenes I'm like, yeah, like.
But I know other people, like,euphrates think those are really
funny in some other spots thatI find funny.
That's why comedy is so hardbecause, yeah, they're trying all
different types of jokes.
And that's why this, to me,this movie should still be commended.
(16:43):
That even those that I'm.
I don't think are as great, they're.
It's not that they're bad.
It's just.
It's not my Bill Hader type of humor.
He's just never been.
It would be like if Awkwafinawas on this.
Like, there was a show I wasabout to watch the other day that
looked intriguing on Netflix.
I don't remember what it was called.
And then the main.
The first name was.
I was like, oh, it's Awkwafina.
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Nope, can't watch that.
That passed.
I was like.
And I was like, damn.
Like, this looks intriguing.
That type of vibe.
Yeah.
Which is funny because when Ithink of those scenes in a lot of
ways.
I think of you and Taylor,like when we're playing video games
and you'll say some and then she'll.
Or I'll say some.
Here is Taylor yelling in the background.
And she's done it on thepodcast before, too.
(17:26):
Like, that's.
Yeah.
So I always think about.
Yeah, you guys, I love thepart where Jason Siegel's character,
like when he.
When Peter makes his wife goup and down on the screen and then.
And then watch him go, oh, Iknow what you're doing, and that's
not funny.
And then he's like, yeah,that, that pearl necklace, is that
(17:47):
new?
He's like, oh, that's gross.
That's one of my favoritescenes of this whole movie.
Just because it's so.
I.
I would be that guy, like,making like, setting someone up that
wouldn't notice it.
Do that kind of like.
Oh, yeah, that's your realtalk, though.
Have either of you ever had abowl of cereal that big where you're
(18:10):
pulling, pouring the whole boxin a giant bowl like that?
I love cereal.
But Daniel, not that big.
But yes, I've done a normal bowl.
I eat it, or I have milk leftover and I'll put more cereal in.
And then I'm like, oh, man,this is so good.
I just need a little bit more milk.
Let me do some more.
But still, I don't even.
Dude, it was like, yeah, that was.
(18:32):
Like a 20 person salad bowl that.
I knew that.
But I've done big bowls.
I wish I had it in here with me.
But Casey eats like, whenshe'll go.
So most of the time she eatslike Shredded Wheat and shitty cereal
that I'm like, why the do youeat that?
But every once in a while shegets a hankering for some Froot Loops
and so she'll buy her one ofthose big ass bags of Froot Loops
(18:53):
and she has this mixing bowlthat she'll go and fucking pour half
a box of Fruit Loops and eatthe whole bowl.
So sugar it up, baby.
Yeah, I've never done it.
Like, I've eaten it in like abowl that's probably like not a normal
bowl, but like a bigger, like,one you'd maybe make some Mac and
Cheese in or something for thewhole family.
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Then I'd cook it.
I'd do some cereal on that.
But it's like a quarter of abag of cereal.
Not that bowl.
But I laugh at that becauseI'm like, I could do that.
I'm not saying I Would, but I could.
Sometimes cereal just hits a spot.
It's rare.
I'd, like, rarely everactually eat it for breakfast.
And I try not to eat too muchfor it these days, but when I do,
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yeah, I can't, like, Taybought like Lucky Charms or banks
for like St.
Patrick's Day or whatever.
I just couldn't contain myself.
I ate the shits out of that cereal.
And it depends on the cereal too.
Like, you could have all theboxes of Cheerios in my house, which
I enjoy.
Cheerios.
I like Cheerios.
I'm not eating them in a giantass bowl.
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Captain Crunch.
I would consider it the one.
The one I would do for ourlistening audience.
Reese's Puffs, man, thatcereal, if they.
It's a dessert, dude.
I put that in ice creamsometimes, dude.
Cinnamon toast crunch.
I'd eat a bowl that big.
And then I would make horchataout of the milk after I'm done.
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What about you, Alec?
What's your.
You.
Your.
Your cereal of your guilty pleasure?
I'm not big on cereal, butwhen I was, it was.
It was like a toss up betweentricks and Captain Crunch.
Captain Crunch.
Peanut butter.
Captain Crunch is also upthere for me.
Yeah, it's.
It's a lot of like.
Like the cereals you can snackon, right?
(20:41):
Yeah, those cereals, like, ifI ever have it these days, it's more.
So I'll just pop it in, like,just heat it.
Like Frosted Flakes, I thinkis better just like straight out
of the box than actually.
Yeah, eating it with milk.
So it's because the milk wipesall the sugar off of them.
Yeah.
And so just eating back and forth.
I'm just eating Wheaties.
(21:01):
And what the hell am I doingthat for?
Wheaties.
I'm no Michael Jordan.
I'm not gonna be good.
Yeah, that's.
I do love the big bowl.
I think the other thing.
And you guys tell me if therewas a Dracula musical comedy musical
with puppets.
Count me in.
I'm sure they had fun at theend of the movie and they were like,
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all right, we're done.
Now we just need to make themost ridiculous one minute scene
of a Dracula musical thathadn't been fun to do.
Oh, yeah, that's something Iwouldn't enjoy going or wouldn't
want to go to and then wouldend up having fun because.
Oh, she dragged me there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is textbook for Spidermanbecause Ochi's making the concerts,
the shows and stuff like that.
(21:45):
And I'm like, not.
But she's picked some reallygood ones over the years.
That.
Yeah, it's like, that'ssomething that I'd be like, why are
we going to this?
This is stupid.
I would eat it all the way upuntil, like, you know, curtain.
Yeah, it was amazing.
I love it.
I love the whole, like, fromthe time we get introduced to the
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musical.
Like, I think that's so good.
And I love the fact that shelaughs at it when everybody else
typically is, like, confusedby it.
Because, like, I giggled.
Like, that first song that heplays in the bar, like, or the restaurant
or wherever the hell it is.
Like, I laugh at that becauseit's just such a funny concept of
(22:29):
Dracula falling for this,like, and having this love story
beyond, like, the sinisterversion that you see on the movies
and whatnot.
Like, that shit's hysterical.
And then watching her laugh.
Yeah, I would definitely.
And then I watched the end ofit, and to your point, they had to
had a great time putting onthis puppet show in, like, for the
(22:49):
movie.
But, like, I watched it and Igo, well, now I want to watch the
whole thing.
Like, I want to see all of it.
Like, because I bet it's hilarious.
Not that it actually exists,but I'd go see it for sure.
I mean, I think it also landsbecause Jason single, Siegel, like,
I mean, while he's not, like,a phenomenal singer, like, he can
(23:10):
sing, like, and he actually,if you.
He's sung in some of his TV.
Shows and movies, like, he.
I mean, he went balls to thewalls in that scene.
That's why.
On those scenes, that's why Ithink it's appreciated because he
was actually, like, funny,like, good, but, like, he made it
funny good.
Like, when he really gets intohis, like, operatic voice with Dracula,
(23:30):
you're like, all right, dude,like, game.
Yeah, well, one of the otherfunniest parts connected to him singing
is, like, when you first cutto him right before he starts working
on it and he's singing, like,that angry.
That part makes me laugh, too,every time he does it.
But, yeah, like, I like this movie.
(23:50):
I like the how it plays out.
It's well written to JasonSiegel's, like, credit.
Like, it's a very well writtenmovie, too, in my opinion.
And, like, what I mean by thatis, like, one of my favorite parts
of this is I don't usuallylove flashbacks unless they're done
right.
And in this one, like, hisflashbacks of realization once he's
gotten into Mila Kunis'scharacter, Rachel, and he's, like,
(24:10):
starting to see theDifferences where she laughs at his.
His song because she gets it.
And then it cuts to him, likewith Sarah Marshall, and she's telling
him, like, she's being kind.
It's not like she's being shitty.
She's just like, I just don'tget it right.
And so that connections.
I love seeing the realizationthat he has, like, once he sees something
(24:31):
different because he's so lostin this depression that, like, he
doesn't see and he's.
And then he's been in therelationship for so long.
Because I love the first cuttoo, where it's like him, like, holding
her bag, like, off the camera,like 99 of the time, like, looking
bored and annoyed like that.
Like watching thoserealizations of the.
(24:53):
That you put up with becauseyou were in it even though it wasn't
healthy for you.
And then noticing thedifference and that, that dynamic
of comparison, which most ofthe time comparison is not good,
but that comparison in thatlight, where it's a healthy comparison
of something, that's whysomething feels so good versus why
you're suddenly realizingsomething you thought was so good.
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It wasn't is so.
It was such an interesting wayto play it out on screen for me.
So I really appreciate thewriting of the film.
And, like, that's all.
I mean, he's the writer, so,you know, he knew what he was going
for and they really leanedinto it, which I liked.
But I think it has some reallygood points to it as well.
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Like points of real lifesituation of being in a relationship
for too long or for the wrongreasons, or tying your entire existence
up in one person and notrealizing that you have to do some
of that for yourself too.
Like, and if you don't, thenyou end up in that situation where
she obviously.
Because I think the other partthat's really interesting is as much
as her, Sarah Marshall'sannoying and, like, seems really
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awful.
And they play it that wellwhen she has that moment where she
breaks down and lashes out atJason, at Peter.
Like, I'm.
Like, I feel for her too,because it's obvious that she was.
She's tried and she came at itfrom different angles.
And his bad habits didn't playwell with her bad habits.
And so, like, figuring thosekinds of things out is not easy in
a relationship.
(26:19):
And so, like, seeing the truthof the matter that they both cared
about each other, it justdidn't work for various reasons.
And they were oblivious toboth of them on their side.
Like, it's an interesting playon a very serious topic.
Done in a very non serious movie.
So I.
I appreciate that level ofintelligence in the writing as well,
(26:41):
which I'm learning more and more.
Jason Siegel's good at that.
Yeah, there was lessons to belearned, for sure.
I think we're.
I mean, the other side youdidn't talk about is getting over
just a.
Relationship and how you getover that and the ways to do it.
And it's different for everybody.
(27:03):
It could be.
It could be faster, slower.
Some people can get reallywrapped up in it.
They're vengeful or so sad anddepressed that they just push all
the good away in their lives,even their friends.
And you see a lot of differenttypes of that in this movie.
And yeah, you don't expect tohave life lessons in a comedic movie
(27:26):
of this amount.
But I think to your credit,it's like you said, Jay, it's well
written.
So some of those things, theydo come through in a more comedic
way, which is a lot of the wayI like to learn.
Or you could be like RussellBrand's character and just be like
oblivious to everything andjust truly beat to your own drum
and that's it.
(27:48):
Yeah, that's fair.
That's not a terrible way to live.
Might be a little lonely, butI did laugh when he's sitting on
the couch at the end and thelittle newly married brides, like,
smiling at him.
I'm gonna go have sex with her now.
That's just key.
That's just like.
That's amazingly funny to me.
Just like, all right, yeah,that would be an interesting lifestyle.
(28:10):
But ultimately, at some point,get fairly lonely.
But yeah, so the othercharact, the other like.
And I mentioned them earlier,the other relationship that you see
in this, that just absolutelyhas me in stitches the whole time
is the young couple, like.
And like, especially like thatfirst scene, you see them where like
he's sitting at the bar andhe's talking about the struggles
(28:33):
and she goes, let me do thatto you.
He's like, no, no.
It's like, if God wanted that,he wouldn't have put our mouths on
our head.
Like, it's just like.
Or like, sorry.
Where he says, like, what is it?
(28:54):
The play, the fun house andthe like the sewage system in the
same.
I was a city planner.
Like, I just think that's someof the funniest that the whole.
And that too, because, like,I've heard horror stories from friends
of like, first night, firsttime not knowing what the to do and
(29:19):
it being like a terribleexperience trying to figure that
out.
Like I've heard so manystories about that.
So watching that play out onscreen and thankfully they get their,
you know, their comeuppance ortheir happy ending, if you will,
thanks to Russell Brand'slessons on the giant chessboard.
But God almighty, that everyscene those two are in just cracks
(29:39):
me up.
When she comes and gets himand licks his ear and he's like,
yay.
I hadn't seen in a while, so Ithought he was like.
I was like, I can't rememberif like he's actually like gay or
like in the.
Turns out to be in the, inthis film.
But then I was like, oh, yeah.
He just doesn't know how it works.
But he sure figured it out.
(30:03):
It just, yeah, it cracks me up.
That's.
I.
There's so much funny aboutthis movie and some great one liners
and.
Yeah.
And it's visually pleasing.
Send me.
I, I go to Hawaii fairly oftenand send me back.
Yeah.
Jjb Too damn hot though.
(30:24):
Although if you went to theBig island in where I actually stay
at our place now and up inWaimea, you'd be a happy man.
I would.
I've been Hawaii.
It was hot.
I liked it though.
I.
It was.
Yeah, I prefer, I like Maui a lot.
But yeah.
I've yet to hear someonetruly, actually hate on Hawaii.
If you're someone that'ssaying, oh, you probably got something
(30:45):
wrong with you.
That's fair.
That is fair.
Yeah.
No, I love it.
I think Hawaii is great.
All right.
Which, yeah, it was abeautiful, beautiful backdrop for
this movie.
Like, great way to do.
Oh, and then him falling offthe cliff.
Oh, that.
And the last thing that Iforgot about.
And then like I'm sitting herethinking, because I made a note to
myself earlier today when Iwas re watching this to bring it
(31:07):
up.
This has some of the greatestmontages in movie history.
Like, and there's like four of them.
Like, but all of them are great.
Highlighted by the one afterhe and.
And Rachel have sex the first time.
And like he's all figuringthis out and so he's like.
Or maybe it was when they,after they kissed after he fell off
(31:28):
the cliff.
And he's like hanging out withlike the old people and the kids
and he's like sitting at thewedding just because he can.
Like, that montage makes melaugh every time.
And I, I think it's justclever the way they use the montages
because even at the last onewhere he's like writing his play
or whatnot, like, it's Justthe whole thing.
I was like, what a.
I don't usually love montagesall the time, but these are, are
(31:51):
just well placed and funny andkeeps the movie at a crisp under
two hours.
So.
Yeah, pacing is, is strong in this.
Movie, which we know.
I appreciate.
Yeah, it, it, for an under twohour movie, like, it feels like an
hour and a half.
So it's, it's really nice.
But.
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All right, should we rate it?
You're up first, Jay.
Hey, I get to go first.
I haven't gone first in liketwo months.
All right, so forgetting SarahMarshall, I'm gonna give this a four
and a half.
I think it's great.
I think it's funny, I thinkit's well written.
I think it's true to a lot of life.
Even though it's very like onthe outskirts and you know, played
up from dramatic effect.
Like everything in here to meis relatable on some level, which
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is hard to do and make itfunny and over the top at the same
time and like push theboundaries of what most of the time
we would consider a proper,good, healthy movie to watch.
But it also covers so manygood life topics and has some great
one liners and it's just, Ijust really like it.
It's.
To me, it's watchable at any time.
(32:57):
I think I.
The only reason I don't giveit a 5 is because of sometimes like.
And again, going back to likethe Paul Rudd scenes and then there
was like one of the bar.
Like there's one of the scenesthat I.
I don't remember the other onethat just like, I'm just like, okay,
I don't.
It's unnecessary.
So for me, like, there's justa couple little things that I'm like
clipping that out would havemade it the perfect movie in, in
(33:19):
my mind, but.
Or one of the perfect movies,but still sticking with a four and
a half.
And I would watch this anytime.
Like, I can.
This kind of laughter in mylife is always welcome because I
laugh the whole time, so.
All right, Alec, what about you?
I think I'm gonna give it a 4.
I enjoy it when I watch it.
It's.
For me it's.
It's almost like the first 10,15 minutes are like the worst part
(33:44):
of this movie.
And so it's getting past thatto get to where he's actually on
Hawaii, where you now have thesupporting cast get involved there.
The movie just takes off andit just kind of keeps going up.
And so like, like I said,someone else has to suggest this
movie, and then I almost haveto get past that first 15 minutes
or so before I really get intoit, really enjoy it.
(34:07):
But, you know, when I watchthis, I.
I just laugh and it's.
It's a great laugh like youwere talking about.
So, yeah, I think I'll give ita 4.
I will watch it again.
Whenever Oshi says, hey, Iwant to see Jason Siegel, Siegel's
dick again, we'll watch it.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
I don't know what the decisionwas there on that one.
(34:28):
It's a Judd Apatow thing.
He.
He made the commitment longago that every comedy he ever wrote
would have full frontal male nudity.
And he's lived up to it.
It's not a good.
Not a good thing.
I'm gonna give this movie A4.
I.
I mean, Alec basically tookeverything I was gonna say.
(34:49):
I think you're welcome.
A little slow at the beginning.
Then it get into the meat ofit and it's amazing.
And then just.
I've already said this.
The Bill Hader scenes, if youeither made less of them or.
It's just not my cup of tea.
It's not that they're.
Some other people probablythink they're really funny.
They don't quite land as muchfor me.
But in terms of the pacing,most of the jokes consistently land.
(35:11):
Phenomenal acting, good writing.
Like, it's.
It'd be hard pressed to find abetter comedy out there.
So I think it's.
It's pretty dang good.
If you haven't seen it as yourresident man of the people, as my
stamp of approval, go watch it.
That's good.
And if you're looking for moreJason Siegel, I.
(35:31):
I talked about with these guys earlier.
Go watch Shrinking on Apple tv.
Not sponsored, just a recommendation.
It's funny as hell.
And he's a co writer, produce,like creator of the show.
It's funny.
So anyway, yeah, there it is.
Forgetting Sarah Marshall, right?
It's a good wrap up to the endof a very interesting month of movies.
And looking forward to.
(35:52):
To next month.
We're doing some war movies,so that should be intriguing.
We'll kick that off for themonth of May, but yeah, there it
is.
Alec, tell everybody wherethey can find us.
Happy to.
So thank you for tuning in tothe last week of my month.
Like the video, becausethey're never gonna let me have another
month ever again.
So this is it.
(36:12):
This is all that's ever gonna happen.
Thank you, Rich, for giving usthe topics and choosing on them the
movies that go on there.
Appreciate you.
Shout out to Rich, our patron.
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So find us on over there andgive us a follow, give us a cheeky
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Speaking of which, well, youknow, last week, let us know in the
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What don't you like?
(36:53):
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With that I will kick it backto the king of Crash, the titan of
terror.
Oh, jj.
Yeah, thanks, Alec.
Don't forget about Charles though.
Charles hangs out.
He doesn't give us ourquarterlies anymore but he still
votes and, and all that fun stuff.
And so he gets seeing if youjoin our patron.
(37:15):
Actually join it.
Join it.
Not just join it for free, butactually, you know, help us support
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You could shout it out and getsome fun.
I miss you stirring up thepot, dude.
You've been quiet for the lastfew months.
I hope all's well.
But you give JJ a hard timeand maybe if you need to give me
a hard time, I'll give you ahug too.
Yeah, Charles a good egg.
(37:36):
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Lots of good recommendationsand boats and.
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He's still a.
A beloved Patreon member.
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