May 5, 2025 • 41 mins
Mattson, Alec and JJ delve into the cinematic representation of the Battle of Gettysburg, as depicted in the film "Gettysburg," directed by Ron Maxwell. The discussion commences with an acknowledgment of the film's length, a staggering four and a half hours, yet the hosts express their admiration for its historical depth and character development. We explore the compelling narrative derived from Michael Shaara's "Killer Angels," which provides a nuanced portrayal of the events and figures surrounding this pivotal moment in American history. Through their analysis, we examine the emotional resonance of the characters, particularly highlighting the dialogues that echo the sentiments of the actual historical figures. Ultimately, this episode serves as a comprehensive exploration of the film's artistic merit and its significant contribution to the understanding of the Civil War narrative.
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Did you ever find yourselfduring this movie getting all, like,
jacked up when they'rescreaming Virginia and like, like,
yeah, Virginia.
No, when I think of Virginia,I think of traffic and humidity.
So I don't.
I don't get too dangpassionate about it, but no, that's
funny.
I forgot that it's been acouple weeks since I'd seen it.
I was like, oh, yeah.
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I should have been like, let'sgo, virgin.
Welcome to the what's up Everypodcast we fashion ourselves cinematic
judge and Jerry.
My name is JJ Crowder, herewith my co hosts, Matt Senheiner,
Better Red.
Than Dead and Alec Burgess.
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Maybe a Civil War historianthis time.
I can't really tell anybodydirectly involved, so go ahead and.
Yeah, tell a historian about us.
We'll take that.
There's plenty of ghosts ofConfederate soldier stories flying
around.
There you go.
Yeah, you can find.
But then, Alec, that meansthey're telling a ghost and.
Yeah, well, you know.
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Sacrifices must be made, right?
I'm brave now, jj, we've donea horror month.
I'm brave.
That's right.
That's right.
If you can't tell, we'rekicking over into the month of May.
It's time for a new category.
We are kicking off war movies.
We've done a few in the lastlittle while, some other topics,
but this one's just straightwar movies.
And I know Alec and I bothpicked some.
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Some.
Some challenges, so we'll seehow this goes.
But to kick us off, we'restarting it off right with Gettysburg.
It was released October 8, 1993.
It was written by MichaelShara, and Ron Maxwell is directed
by Ron Maxwell.
Stars.
Look, I'm gonna give a list ofnames, but this movie is insane with
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the.
The amount of cast and what'sin it.
But I'll go through a handfulof names here.
So we got Tom Behringer,Martin Sheen, Stephen Legg, Richard
Jordan, Andrew Prine, CooperHuckabee, Patrick Gorman, Bo Brinkman,
Jeff Daniels.
I almost said the wrong Jeff there.
James Patrick Stewart andKieran Mulroney.
It is 1863.
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In the northern and southernforces fight at Gettysburg in the
decisive battle of theAmerican Civil War.
Yeah, I mean, if we're gonnakick it off, we're gonna.
We might as well kick it off, right?
With all four and a half hours of.
Of Gettysburg.
So, Alec, I believe this wasyour choice.
This was.
And I originally picked it110% to be a dick and make you guys
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sit through a four and a halfhour movie.
But while watching it, I waslike, fuck yes, I love this movie.
Like, I forget because it's afour and a half hour movie.
That's enough of a.
Like, hey, you know what?
Maybe not.
I think always.
Oh no, this movie is fantastic.
And so I watched it and I was.
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I didn't even feel like it wasfour hours, four and a half hours.
It felt a lot less of a time.
And it's got me so like, youknow, up and atom that Oshi and I
are actually gonna go toGettysburg in a couple weeks.
Nice.
So, yeah, a couple weeks fromwhen this episode releases, will
have gone to Gettysburg.
Wow.
Well, if nothing else, it wasworth it for you.
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Yeah, it was.
I mean, I've been toGettysburg before.
I grew up on the east coastfor a little bit, so I went there
as I was a kid, but I haven'tbeen in like 10 years.
And so I was watching this andI was like remembering, you know,
because they have a wonderfulguided tour that when you go there,
I was remembering all thestories that happen and we get into
some of the fight and I'mlike, dude, I texted Oshi because
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she wants to go to Salem andsee witchcraft stuff.
Sure.
I was like, I don't.
I will go to Salem if you goto Gettysburg.
And so yeah, this movie didexactly what it was supposed to do.
Felt right into the Gettysburgtrap and it was all started 100%
to be a dick.
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So there, there's that.
There's my comeuppance that I got.
Nice.
Oh yeah, I love this movie.
Nice.
Well, I'll stick it right backto you and say I love all four and
a half hours of this movie.
I was.
If you hadn't put it on thelist, I would have put it on the
list.
And not to be a dick, butbecause this is a great movie about
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a very crazy time in ourhistory and it's very well done and
it's based off of a bookthat's like extremely good.
In fact, it's based on.
Off of one of a trilogy ofbooks that is outstanding.
This one, the one that thisone's based off is Killer Angels.
And the other one is the.
I wondered if it was big.
I love Killer Angels.
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Yeah.
One of the only books inschool I'd read that I actually like,
truly liked.
It was awesome.
Have you read the other two?
I haven't.
I didn't know there was other two.
I should read them now.
Gods and generals in the Full measure.
It's.
It's a.
Gods in general is the firstone, Killer Angels is the second,
and then the full measure isthe last.
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And they're all equally fantastic.
Great points of view.
Gods in general starts beforethe Civil War, so you kind of get
General Lee and a couple ofother of the.
These generals that you seeand even some of the colonels and
stuff like that through this movie.
You get to see their startgoing through West Point and learn
the differences as to why thenorthern generals were considered
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the smarter generals but gottheir asses handed to them for two
years, two and a half years.
And then you know why GeneralLee was so good and like, you know,
all the different ones that wesee here at the end that they talk
about that are just amazing.
So interesting book.
And then the full measure iskind of like the wrap up and you
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should read them if youhaven't very good books.
But yeah, I love this movie.
I saw it in high school.
They made us watch, I think myfreshman year.
I was like, oh.
And it took like three weeks.
I was like, jesus Christ, thisis a long ass movie.
But yeah, it's really good.
And I watched it.
I think if you guys watch itthrough Amazon, this was like the.
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I watched the extendedversion, which is 20 extra minutes.
Yeah, I was gonna say, oh man.
That means I did too.
Oh, yeah.
It's almost five hours.
I think it's.
It's very long, but very good.
Matt said, I'm sure we know what.
You'Re gonna say, but I mean,yeah, I think you know what I'm gonna
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say.
Yes.
And now like, is, Is thismovie long?
Like, yes.
JJ said, this movie's long.
Multiple times.
This movie's very long.
Like, I don't know what peopledid when this movie came out in theaters.
Like, it would have been a lot.
Like they needed multiple intermissions.
Like, people don't have timefor this in a movie theater.
Like, this day and age.
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Like, you got to allocate likealmost six hours.
Like, that's a long time.
That being said, this podcast,you know, I'm a sucker for like war
movies and I'm a sucker for history.
So like this movie seemedextremely Historically accurate.
And I absolutely appreciated that.
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And I think it was.
I read Kayla Angels.
I've read a lot aboutGettysburg and like, seeing it come
to life and the sheer amountof people that they put in this movie.
I mean, the battle on.
I should remember the hillthat they had to hold on the flank.
Little round top, little round.
Yeah, I mean, I always.
I read about it, knew aboutit, but like, to see it and what
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their interpretation of itlooked like, like, incredible was
the acting.
Like, did it feel like I wasin Gettysburg and like a part of
the crew?
Yeah, like the I.
So it was visually pleasing,well acted, interesting subject matter.
But yeah, it was long.
So I have mixed feelings.
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It's not like I.
I didn't enjoy watching it.
It was just when you got kidsand you got stuff to do.
Like, I can't.
I just can't sit and watchthis movie in one sitting.
So it felt like it took a longtime to get through, but it wasn't
bad.
Like, I was entertained.
There were parts with themonologue and how they speak back
then and things.
You're just like, okay, like,maybe we could just get through that
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a little bit.
But at the same time, that'sjust kind of how things were back
then.
But I can appreciate it, like,was a well done movie.
They truly felt like, for me,kind of left no stone unturned with
what they were trying to tell.
And I think that's hard to do.
Granted, they took a largeamount of time to get that done.
So that's the trade off.
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I like it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's.
I think what I like most aboutthis movie, that besides the.
The movie, like actual visualsand all that fun and what it's about.
But, like, I like it because we.
We do talk a lot about moviesthat we've watched that are based
in historical fact, whatever,whether it's, you know, football
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movies or war movies or anykind of movie that had, like, this
is based on a true story.
Like, the thing that I respectabout Michael Shara and the fact
that they didn't let it beshort is the fact that the books,
Killer Angels, those threebooks, are all based on Michael Shah's
research and reading of thejournals of all these guys.
Like, he went through and readhistorical records and journals.
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And so a lot of the dialoguehe took from journals and then put
into this movie as back and forth.
Or those monologues likeGeneral Lee sitting with in that
tent where he kind of is justtalking about.
Well, he's got like eight of them.
But any one of his dialogue,like those.
Those monologues that he does,most of them come at least rooted
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from things that he wrote inhis journal that he was feeling during
that time.
And then he.
They turned it into dialogueto kind of express, like, how he
was feeling.
And that was true for a lot ofthe major players that we see in
this movie.
And, like, it's reallyinteresting to me to think about
one.
The differences in people fromback then and now because, like.
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And they show it very well inthe war.
And I think that's what standsout to me the most is, like, you're
fighting this war, right?
Like, people.
You're killing each other.
Like, it's.
It's brutal.
It's crazy.
But when there gets to a pointwhen you realize, look, we've.
We've got this in the bag,like you.
We've won, they start helpingeach other and, you know, picking
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each other up.
And it's not like they just start.
And I think that it's in starkcontrast to the movies that we're
doing later in this monthbecause you see that we move into
some very brutal wars wherethere isn't that consideration of
the fact that these are human beings.
And.
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And obviously there's a littledifference because half these guys
knew each other from schoolsor, you know, it wasn't as.
As a populated country backthen as we are now.
But it's, you know, it's justone of those things where that, to
me, stands out huge.
Like, the fact that they wentover and at the end, it's huge.
Like, it's a really big thingwith the one General Hancock, I think,
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where he's like.
He's sitting there, and maybeit was a Hancock, it was other.
The other guy that Hancockknew from the Armistead, as he's
laying there and he's tellingthese soldiers, they're trying to
take care of this guy andlike, that, to me, like, that's.
That's wild.
You know what I mean?
Comparatively to how today,like, I don't think you'd see that
same kind of consideration, atleast in general, right?
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Where this.
That was the norm.
Like, it was, hey, look, theseare our people, too.
We're just in a cute war.
I think you said it best, right?
Because these many of theseguys, they.
The generals especially, theyfought with each other.
They were captains when theywere younger, and they were literally
doing this again.
The only comparison I can cometo that is like, the Revolutionary
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War, when many.
Like George Washington, someof those people fought with the British
captains and generals in theFrench and Indian War, like, earlier
than that.
And they knew each other and things.
But you're right, like,obviously, I've never been in a war,
but the camaraderie that youbuild in those moments doesn't really
go away clearly.
And I think they showed thatquite well in this film.
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And when you're fighting yourbrother, that just happens to live,
I don't know, 100 miles fromwhere you lived.
And there's a.
A wee bit of differentideologies, but then you remember
that they're still your friend.
That.
That's probably got to be hardto come to terms with, that times
when they're fighting becauseof something that people say they
should fight for.
But do they really care aboutthat thing being slavery as much
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as a few people do?
It's hard to say.
Yeah.
And I think that was a very.
I like that they dove intothat aspect because this movie definitely
needed.
I mean, there's clear theemotion of the battles and things,
but it needed emotionalcharacter progression or.
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I don't think you literallycould have carried anyone for four
and a half hours.
And I thought they did thatpretty well with a few different
stories.
Yeah.
Well.
And I love the.
The Chamberlain brother story, too.
Like, that's just so.
And I love that they madethat, like, front and center.
And if you don't know thehistory of, like, I.
I'm assuming, Alec, you saidyou've been.
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And you're getting ready to go.
I'm assuming Matt said you've been.
I mean, you live very close.
I mean, it's so.
It's only been once and it'sbeen a while ago, but I've been.
I've been to ManassasBattlefield, like, some of the other
major battles very often.
And so, like, the vibe.
I mean, it looks prettysimilar to Gettysburg in a lot of
senses.
Yeah.
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Did you ever find yourselfduring this movie getting all, like,
jacked up when they'rescreaming, Virginia and like.
Like, yeah, Virginia.
No, when I think of Virginia,I think of traffic and humidity,
so I don't get too dangpassionate about it.
But, no, it's funny, I forgotthat it's been a couple weeks since
I'd seen.
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I was like, oh, yeah.
I should have been like, let's go.
Yeah, Virginia.
Except Virginia was on thewrong side of the battle, so that's
probably where I was like.
And they were absolutely on.
No, because that's.
Where was it.
Was it Richmond?
That was the.
Yeah, the Confederate capital.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
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I don't like I.
It's been a while since we'vebeen there.
Like, I grew, I went there asa kid because I grew up close to
there in Ohio, like eastern Ohio.
Like we were very close toGettysburg and been there a couple
times when I was younger and Ididn't understand or respect like
the scope of that place when Iwas there as a kid.
Not.
What was it back in, I think 2015.
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Ish.
Casey's parents drove downfrom Utah to see us and hang out,
spend some time and we loadedup in a van and they.
We drove up and went toGettysburg with them and.
And as an adult, I had a muchbigger appreciation and understanding
from of like what that place was.
And it's pretty awe inspiringas an adult to like stand there and
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still see.
And they've done a really goodjob of keeping that, keeping that
field and, and little and biground tops, like both historically
what it was during that time.
And it's wild.
Like that final charge thatLee was just gung ho was they were
going to break the center andlike, you see like that tree line,
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you're like, there's no way.
Like, how did you.
You know what I mean?
And so, and it's wild to thinkabout like the success that Robert
E.
Lee had and then in that onemoment, like the overconfidence of
being stuck by this comedy oferrors, you know, from different
generals doing dumb or notdoing what they should have been
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doing and then making poorchoices of not pushing the advance
in that first battle of Gettysburg.
So it's just wild that he'sjust like, no, we've got, we've got
the numbers and we, we can dothis and makes that one mistake that
really just loses them the war.
So it's really wild to me, like.
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But yeah, I found it veryhumbling to stand there and like
you especially after readingall the books and everything else.
And it's just like, wow, okay,this is a linchpin of our country's
history right here.
One of them anyway.
And so it's, it's pretty wildto be there.
So I'm excited for you, Alec,to get to go and like be there as
an adult and kind of hang outand it's cool.
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The tours are bitching.
Like, it's.
Yeah, it's wild.
Wow.
I am stoked.
Something that I really likedabout this movie as well is I think
they did a good job with theRebel Yale.
Mm.
That keeping that kind ofgoing like, because I remember when
I.
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One of the last trips I wentto Louisville, but we took it.
Or not.
Louisville, Gettysburg.
We took a.
The guided tour.
And he was talkingspecifically about the rebel yell.
And they have like a speakerwhere they play it over and they're
kind of like, you know, haveyou close your eyes and kind of.
They give you a visual pictureand you have this thing going the
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way they built this out,things blood chilling.
Yeah.
And to have, you know, beyond.
Beyond the flank.
Right.
Let's put you in Chamberlainshoes on the flank.
And you got smoke going everywhere.
There's no ammo.
You're running low on everything.
Half your dudes are dead andyou're hearing nothing but that coming
out of the smoke.
I'm packing it in, dude.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And to still make that choiceto like.
Yeah.
To charge down.
Yeah.
Like wild.
No way.
And so I like that they put this.
These, you know, key points inand they make for a great movie,
but there's also the historyback behind it and they just.
They don't take too muchexposition to explain what's going
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on.
They just let it ride and itfits so well.
Yeah.
Which is amazing.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
This.
I remember this.
So I was never like a bighistory guy when I was a kid, but
I will say that in highschool, when they made me watch this
movie, I was not excited.
And I was living in Kentuckyat the time, so I was in a neutral
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state for the war, but verymuch in the south, you know what
I mean?
And like, Kentucky may havebeen neutral during the war, but
when I was a kid, it wasn'tquite as neutral as it used to be.
You know what I mean?
Like, they're sure quick.
They were sure quick a lot oftimes to.
To claim that Confederatelegacy and, you know, what would
have happened and whatnot.
And that's.
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That's a whole different topicthat I could go through and talk
about.
But I remember not being,like, real thrilled about the fact
that we were going to watchthis, because I was like, yeah, whatever,
I don't care.
But then this movie reallykind of turned me on to history and,
like, the fact that the CivilWar is a very.
It's a very interesting warand there's a lot more to it than
what most people.
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What was the Civil War about?
Well, it was about slavery.
Sure.
It absolutely was.
But that's far from the onlything that this war was about, really.
Yeah, like, that's.
That's like.
That's the swing and what wasused to, you know, to start it and
to continue it on and it endedit, which was wonderful and it should
have happened.
But at the same time, like, Ididn't know.
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Like, I always thought as akid that that's all it was about.
And then you get to learningthe history and it's not at all all
that it was about.
But, like, then I.
That's when I started readingthe books and I read Killer Angels
when I was 16 and I was like,this is great.
It was a very hard book to getthrough when I was 16, but it was
really crazy.
And then I read the wholetrilogy, and I've read the whole
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trilogy a couple.
Couple times now.
And I, like, I hadn't watchedthis movie in years because it's
so long, but I was glad thatwe did because, like, I was reminded
of, like, I love theperformance of Martin Sheen and him
being so soft spoken asGeneral Lee, which, you know, it's
known that General Lee wasvery soft spoken and patient and
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calm.
But, like, normally MartinSheen's kind of got this, like, very
loud carrying voice that heuses and he just quiets himself down.
And then, you know, all thesupporting characters, like, not
a big Tom Behringer fan, buthe kills it in this.
And then.
Yeah, like, just so many things.
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What's.
His face is picket.
Like, I love, like the.
The smile that he gives whenhe's like, can you take this?
You know, can you take that.
That ridge?
And he just smiles and goes nuts.
Like, yeah, Stephen Lang or whatever.
Yeah, it's just so manyphenomenal actors.
Like, names that you readthrough and you go, holy.
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All these people are in this movie.
And you can tell, like,especially in those generals and
the leaders.
And I think, honestly at thetime, the most unknown dude was Jeff
freaking Daniels, which iswild to think about now.
But, yeah, really, really goodcasting, I think, was the other.
This couldn't have been acheap movie at the time to make,
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though, from a set piece standpoint.
Probably very cheap because Iknow that they did a lot of the filming
there in Gettysburg, so it wasprobably a lot cheaper to do it there
than, you know, in a studioand having to build the sets and
things like that.
But from a casting standpoint,they probably.
And I don't know, maybe theseactors were like, yeah, we'll do
this.
But it.
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Because it's a commitment.
But there's also a lot of goodCivil War movies, and I think this
one's the best.
And I love Glory, don't get me wrong.
Like, I think it's phenomenal,but I think this one's the best of
them.
But, yeah.
So I will say something that I hate.
Oh.
And it's.
It's.
It's something that Ishouldn't hate, because I know it's
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the way it is.
Sure.
It's the little bit of theextras, because you have a lot of
the extras are Civil Warreenactors, and they just have fun
out there in that PennsylvaniaJune heat.
And so, like, it's the littlebit, the beginning, where you have
the villagers, right?
And they're doing, like, thetelling the soldiers, like, where
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have you been?
Right.
Cattle raids have been happening.
I'm just sitting there going,oh, my God.
Yeah, but that's it, right?
That's the character.
You go to any kind of place onthe east coast historical site, and
that's everybody.
And they do not break character.
It does not matter what isgoing on.
Whole place could be burningdown and they'll still be in character.
And then it's.
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It's funny as well, because,like, when they do the charge off
a little round top, you gotthe union officer in front of the
sword.
He's just, like, dancing.
Yeah.
It's like.
It's like, hey, I get it, right?
What he's doing.
He's looking back to make surehis guys are still following them.
But the way he's, like,jumping around, pirouetting down
the hill, I'm like, oh, dude,he's having way too much fun.
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That's true.
I love how dramatic some ofthem are, too, shot.
Like the one guy that, like,jumps, it's like, yeah, you're definitely
a Civil War reenactor.
And I get for them, like, it'sdifferent because they have to do
that so that the people thatare standing and watching from the
outskirts can see people die.
Like, they have to be super dramatic.
But, like, in the movie, it'sreally funny.
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And I love that they use thatguy twice because he jumps and then
it cuts away, and then like acouple seconds later it comes back
and he jumps again.
Like, that was the same guy twice.
Yeah.
So, yeah, there's some of them.
Those couple moments that arein there where you're just kind of
like, oh, my gosh, this is so hokey.
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They're just being Civil warand actors and just having the grandest
old time doing it.
And so a couple of those onesare just, ah.
Because it frequently that'slike, comes after a big kind of or
during a big moment whereyou're like, you know, you're getting
ready to go, and you're justlike, oh, okay, cool.
Yeah, yeah, There we go.
That's what I was missing in this.
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That's funny.
That's funny.
Yeah.
There was another one that.
Another moment like that thatI was like, oh, God.
I think it might have been one.
Some dude, like, was gettingbayoneted or something, and he's,
like, doing all this, like,acting all goofy.
I was like, oh, God, get outof here.
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But yeah, there's some funnymoments where they overact the.
Out of it.
I mean, they didn't quiteoften or just some of that.
You're just like, all right,well, this made a while ago.
They probably could have beena little bit more buttoned up with
the choreography.
But, yeah, I mean, what areyou gonna tell old Joe Schmo that's
like, this is my shot.
Like, I've been.
I've been reenacting for eight years.
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I'm in the movie now.
This is evil.
Have either of you ever beento a Civil War react reenactment?
One of the live ones?
Yeah, I've been to multiple Alec.
You got to try to find a way.
Like, it's wild.
I don't know that they do themthat much.
I'm sure they do.
Look, I say that, but I've.
I lived in the South.
They.
They love their Civil Warreenactments, but.
It'S an excuse to drink andact like you went to war.
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Yeah, I also.
So when I was in Kentucky, wehad a.
One of my professors was.
He did Civil War reenactments,and then he was like, a Civil War
Bob is the one that made uswatch this movie.
And then he picked two of us to.
He had a Union uniform and afull legit Confederate uniform.
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And so I got picked with abuddy of mine to go.
We went to his house, and wegot to try on the uniform.
And then, like, we dressed upin this uniform, and he actually
had old Civil War muskets thathe taught us how to load and then
fire.
So we went out, and this was.
Shows the sign of the timesbecause you'd never be able to do
this nowadays.
But, like, we went out in thisbig field out by our high school
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that was out back of it, andit was.
And we were in this full wool,by the way, this was legit.
And it was hot as fuck.
And it was like springtime in Kentucky.
Was it JJ Hot or was it.
No, dude.
Like, this was, like, horrid hot.
Like, seriously, this isprobably why you hate the heat.
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It could be like, it was full,like, okay, so you have like your
normal, like I had normalunder clothes on, right?
And then you had this, thisbutton up shirt that went on and
then there was this, the blue jacket.
And because I moved fromKentucky from, to Kentucky from Ohio,
he made me wear the Union uniform.
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And then my buddy who was fromTennessee, he put in the, the Confederate
one.
So.
But I put on this jacket andit's heavy as hell.
It weighs like seven pounds.
Okay.
And it's made of pure wool.
Like I'm not kidding, it's notlike kind of wool.
It's like that nasty scratchyass blanket that your grandpa used
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to keep in the back of thetruck that he like.
Because if you got cold, youput it on and it's super heavy, but
it itches like a.
Again, it didn't matter.
Like I had like that shirt on,but it itched right through it.
And then the pants were justwool too.
And then you had this big assheavy leather belt.
So by the time you're done,it's like packing a 15 pound backpack
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on your body.
Then you have this musket thatweighs like 12 pounds.
Like it was wild how much?
And I'm like, this is crazy.
And then to think about theseguys running in this and then being
out there in the heat and thehumidity, I was like, I would have,
I would have died.
I'd have been the, that gotcaught running away like in that
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first scene.
Like that have been my ass.
And I'd have been one of thosethree that are like, you can court
martial my ass.
I ain't doing it because thatwas hot.
And so we went out, but we, helet us like do like in front of the
like the whole class wassitting there.
And so then we would line upand we, we loaded the musket.
But without the ball, obviously.
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But cool thing about musk isyou can load them without the ball
and still fire them.
And it's like you're firing them.
Yeah.
And we got to fire it.
Outside the high school, thatwas the wildest.
I was like this, you couldnever get away with that today.
But yeah, so it was crazy.
But that in that, that momentlike really got me into like what
else about the Civil War andthen what about history in general,
especially our country's history.
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But it was nuts.
It was a lot of fun.
But God, I was glad to takethat off.
It was so hot.
It was horrible.
So I can't even imagine theseguys like in that uniform, running
down a hill, climbing up thehill, for crying out loud.
And then like it's not a small hill.
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It says, oh, Round Top, but it.
Is not a small hill.
Little, my ass.
Only because it's littler than big.
Round Top.
That's the only thing it's not little.
Okay, let's just call what itis you would have been in the artillery.
Oh, even that.
I don't know if I would have done.
Like, it have been hot asballs over there, too, dude.
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I still had to wear that uniform.
I would have died.
I would have died.
Because then as you'resweating, it soaks it all up so it
gets even heavier.
I'm out.
I would have literally died.
Not because I got shot or anything.
But, like, JJ would have beensmoking and chewing that tobacco
to an early death.
Yeah, I.
Sucking up.
I'll watch this whole movie.
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I was like, I want a cigar,God damn it.
It's all that good Southern tobacco.
Becky to Becca.
I've had my good fair share ofSouthern tobacco.
Yeah, I.
I really like this movie, nomatter how long it is.
And I, I.
One of my favorite, like, someof my favorite parts, to be honest,
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which is weird for me, islike, the.
The overdub.
Like, the.
The recording of their thoughts.
Like, the first one you see is.
Generally surprising that you.
That's very uncharacteristic.
The re.
There's a reason for it, andthat's because those.
The lines that you hear thatare audio over, and it's the thoughts
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of, like, Chamberlain andGeneral Lee.
And I think there was oneother one that they had do it, but
those are directly out oftheir journals.
Like, they're not written forthe movie.
Those came directly from thosemen's journals.
And, like, so the wholeChamberlain, where he's talking about
everything that they're doingin the war and stuff like that, like,
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all of that came directly for.
They.
They didn't change it.
They didn't grammaticallycorrect it.
Like, that was what they wrotein their journal, and they.
That's why they did it that way.
So sitting and listening tothat and then being able to have,
like.
Even though we know it'sMartin Sheen's face, but to listen
to, like, the words of GeneralRoberts Lee in the midst of this,
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understanding that right nowthey're winning the war.
At this point, they're winningthe war not by a large margin, but
enough that they're confident and.
But to still have thereservations and the thoughts and
how are we going to do this?
And is this the right call?
And to have to have the weightof that entire process on your Shoulders
and then, oh my gosh.
But I love those momentsbecause I'm like, I'm listening to
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the words of these people thatactually lived in this moment.
And that's wild to me.
Like, that's why I think whenyou can read that or listen to that
kind of thing, that's so coolto get that kind of insight into
this person, that these peoplethat historically are giants, right?
And man, just to know thatthey were thinking probably the same
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thing that most of us wouldhave been thinking, at least to some
extent.
Where there's, there's fear,there's trepidation, there's doubt,
there's overconfidence,there's a lack of confidence.
All those things that aregoing through those guys minds.
It's so cool to me.
So I, I love that part of thismovie that they actually found a
way to inject that into the movie.
So I think that's my favorite part.
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Okay, should we rate this thing?
Let's do it.
It's a very short podcast fora very long ass movie, but I like
it.
All right, Alec, kick us off, buddy.
My movie, my go.
I'm gonna give it four and a half.
It's the little nitpickythings that pull me out of the movie
and they're important.
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Like, I know that's the way itis and everything like that, but
it just at times is so hokeythat it ruins almost the real kind
of message behind the movie orthe importance or the gravitas that
was happening.
But it's, it's an enjoyable watch.
Like it's something that neverfeels as long as it actually is.
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And I mean, it's also onewhere you don't really want to skip
through the monologues or thequieter parts or the less parts because
they, they're so important.
They still have a lot of drawto them to where, I mean, there's
no easy way to cut it down.
And some other movies you'd belike, ah, skip, skip, skip, skip,
skip, skip, skip.
Here you can't really do that,but I'll give it a four and a half
(33:13):
and I will sit down and watchthis anytime.
I like it.
Madison.
I mean, I agree with Alec thatyou can't skip the dialogue, but
this movie does feel long.
I don't, I don't know whatuniverse that you live in.
It definitely is a long movie.
Like I.
You can't, you can't trickyourself with that.
I would say the same thingabout a movie that I love, Being
the Dark Knight.
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It's a long movie.
And like I said with thatmovie, you've got to be invested
into this movie.
It's not something that youcan pop in, pop out.
Like you want to do it right,you got to sit down, you got to have
the snacks, got to have the time.
Got to give it the respectthat it deserves.
So with that, I'm going togive it a three and a half.
Obviously a massive dockingfor the amount of time.
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But if you are into historyand you haven't seen this movie and
you like, like Americanhistory and the Civil War and things
like, you should definitelysee this movie.
You should go read Killer Angels.
I think you'll enjoy what's onscreen, take some time, maybe split
up into two chunks, a SaturdaySunday thing, but you'll be happy
that you did.
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Yeah, I'm going to give it afour and a half as well.
I'm with kind of in betweenthe two of you.
Like I can feel that it's longwhen I think about it, but I get
lost in this movie.
So like I was, when I watchedit, I was sitting there going, I'm
three hours in already.
I'm like, I've been watchingthis for a long ass time, but I like
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what I'm watching.
And, and while I can feelevery moment of the four, especially
like the last like half anhour of this extended edition, I
was like, good lord, this is long.
But when I'm watching it, likeI get really wrapped up in what's
going on.
And the dialogue for me, like I.
And I said the, the overdubdialogue is really great and I love
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it for that very reason.
But the conversations too,like the conversation, conversations
between, like the one wherethey're sitting at the top of the
rock after the battle ofLittle Round Top and like the Chamberlain
brothers are discussingeverything together and like what's
been going on.
Or the moment where like Isaid, Tom Behringer's talking to
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Stephen Lang and, and likeyou're like, geez.
Like, this is like theconversations feel really long, but
if you sit down and you listento them, they're having this meaningful
dialogue about I don't want todo this.
This isn't the right choice,but I'm gonna do it because my general
has told me to do it.
And so they weighing all theseoptions out.
Anyway, like, I just love thedialogue in this movie.
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Even more so than the battle.
If I'm skipping anything, it'sthe battle scenes.
Because I don't care so muchabout most of like those scenes.
Of, like, the fights.
Like, I understand what'shappening there.
I want to listen to these mentalk to each other, to themselves.
And that's what really gets meto this.
Because that understanding ofwhere they're at and, like, what
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they're thinking and howthey're planning, that stuff really
intrigues the out of me.
So I do get lost in it.
So I forget that I'm watchingfour and a half hours or almost five
hours of movie.
So, yeah, I highly recommendgo watching this, too.
I will say my.
If I'm.
I'm docking it for.
For till four and a half.
It's a combination of the factthat it is almost five hours long
and the goofy that Alextalking about that I can't help but
(36:32):
giggle at as I'm watching it.
I'm like, I shouldn't belaughing during this movie, at this
part, because people are dying.
But I can't help.
This guy jumps like three feetin the air because of a musket ball.
It's just like, I evenunderstand, like.
And the other one that bothersme, that's really stupid that it
bothers me as much as it doesis the cannonball.
Like, that's not howcannonballs back then worked.
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Like, they had some that wereexplosive, but most of the time those
were on naval ships and theyhad artillery.
But these were cannons.
These weren't like boom, boom stuff.
This is like, hit somebody andtear you in half.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's.
These are cannonballs.
They'd hit and roll for 3ftand break people's legs and tear
them off.
And I get.
You can't show that in 1993.
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But at the same time, like,every time a cannonball exploded,
like, they didn't explode.
God damn it.
But what I feel like theyshowed they could have.
They had movies that showedthat they just decided that wasn't
this movie.
PG 13.
Oh, that.
I don't know.
Could be.
I.
There were a couple of sceneswhere they showed, like, dudes missing
(37:36):
legs and stuff.
So.
Yeah.
And like.
So I don't know.
What is it?
Oh, Israelite.
Pg.
Good Lord.
Well, there you go.
There's your answer.
That's fair.
But I don't know why thatbothers me so much, but exploded.
And that's not just this movie.
Anytime they show war movieswith exploding cannonballs, it pisses
me off.
Like contact with the earth,like earth flying up in the air,
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that's fine.
But the explosions and thefire coming out.
Explosions.
I hate that.
Explosions, explosions.
I love Explosions, just notfrom a cannonball.
Like not from a 12 pound pieceof freaking lead.
Like that's not how that worked.
But anyway, I digress.
I actually appreciate thatthey made this movie PG though because.
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Yeah, it just allows kids thatdo get enthralled with something
like this to not have to likeparents don't have to have the war
of like.
Well, like, you know, theyread the book, they should watch
it.
I don't know, like, don't getme wrong, I love a good war scene.
I love seeing the realism.
But like, you know, it's alsokind of nice.
You want to watch it with likeyour 8 year old son, like go for
it.
Yeah, well, it's realisticenough that you understand that you're
(38:44):
watching a war movie.
Right?
But I'm with you.
Like I don't need to see acannonball roll down and tear some
dude's leg off for me to go.
And I understand they need itto be dramatic so that you know that
a cannonball landed.
But it bothers me.
I don't.
It's stupid.
It's a me thing.
But anyway, that's my four anda half.
I will watch this almostanytime, but I break it up typically.
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Like I will usually watch itin two parts.
I didn't this time.
But there used to be when itcame out on VHS.
That's how old this movie was.
Back in the 90s there were twoVHS tapes and I don't remember where
the cutoff was.
I think it might have been thebattle of Little Round Top.
Once that was done, they hadthat conversation between the Chamberlain
brothers and then it cut andit's like, please insert tape too.
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So that's how old I am is.
I watched that when you had tobreak it apart and watch it in two
movies.
So I still do.
I don't think I've had to dealwith the VHS, but definitely did
that with a few DVDs for sure.
Yeah.
Lord of the Rings being theeasiest example of that.
Yep.
This was the first time I everwatched a movie that I had to swap
VHS tapes.
And I sure did.
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It was fun.
So there it is.
Our we kick off.
What a way to kick off of Mayand the month of war movies.
And I like it.
I like our picks.
I like that we started withthis one.
It's an interesting movie andI love it.
So we'll see you for the restof them.
But Alec, before we go, telleverybody where they can find us.
Happy to J.J.
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like J.J.
just said, this is week one ofour wartime movies.
And best part is there was noother kind of parameters other than
war movies.
So we're gonna be going allover the place in history.
It's gonna be a fantastic month.
Shout out to our patrons.
It's Charles and Rich who madethe selection for this and then made
the selection for war movies,then went ahead and made the selection
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of which movies to choose from.
So there that lineup isentirely on them.
They picked a great one.
Don't come at me in the comments.
It wasn't my fault.
Speaking of the Patreon,that's the place to get involved
in our content.
We have a ton of extraepisodes out, ton of behind the scenes
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With that, I'll kick it backto the Maharajah of Mash, the King
of Crash.
Oh, jj, love it.
Thanks, Alec.
Yeah, go check out Patreon.
It's fun.
Yeah, we really are kind ofall over the place this month.
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Are they pattern?
Yeah, there's no likeconnective tissue other than war.
All sorts of crazy storiestoo, but they're all kind of heart
wrenching and interesting intheir own ways.
But yeah, with that as always,we appreciate you tuning in.
We'll catch you on the next one.
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Cinematic out.
Did you ever find yourselfduring this movie getting all, like,
jacked up when they'rescreaming Virginia and like, like,
yeah, Virginia.
No, when I think of Virginia,I think of traffic and humidity.
So I don't.
I don't get too dangpassionate about it, but no, that's
funny.
I forgot that it's been acouple weeks since I'd seen it.
I was like, oh, yeah.
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Maybe a Civil War historianthis time.
I can't really tell anybodydirectly involved, so go ahead and.
Yeah, tell a historian about us.
We'll take that.
There's plenty of ghosts ofConfederate soldier stories flying
around.
There you go.
Yeah, you can find.
But then, Alec, that meansthey're telling a ghost and.
Yeah, well, you know.
(01:25):
Sacrifices must be made, right?
I'm brave now, jj, we've donea horror month.
I'm brave.
That's right.
That's right.
If you can't tell, we'rekicking over into the month of May.
It's time for a new category.
We are kicking off war movies.
We've done a few in the lastlittle while, some other topics,
but this one's just straightwar movies.
And I know Alec and I bothpicked some.
(01:46):
Some.
Some challenges, so we'll seehow this goes.
But to kick us off, we'restarting it off right with Gettysburg.
It was released October 8, 1993.
It was written by MichaelShara, and Ron Maxwell is directed
by Ron Maxwell.
Stars.
Look, I'm gonna give a list ofnames, but this movie is insane with
(02:09):
the.
The amount of cast and what'sin it.
But I'll go through a handfulof names here.
So we got Tom Behringer,Martin Sheen, Stephen Legg, Richard
Jordan, Andrew Prine, CooperHuckabee, Patrick Gorman, Bo Brinkman,
Jeff Daniels.
I almost said the wrong Jeff there.
James Patrick Stewart andKieran Mulroney.
It is 1863.
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In the northern and southernforces fight at Gettysburg in the
decisive battle of theAmerican Civil War.
Yeah, I mean, if we're gonnakick it off, we're gonna.
We might as well kick it off, right?
With all four and a half hours of.
Of Gettysburg.
So, Alec, I believe this wasyour choice.
This was.
And I originally picked it110% to be a dick and make you guys
(02:54):
sit through a four and a halfhour movie.
But while watching it, I waslike, fuck yes, I love this movie.
Like, I forget because it's afour and a half hour movie.
That's enough of a.
Like, hey, you know what?
Maybe not.
I think always.
Oh no, this movie is fantastic.
And so I watched it and I was.
(03:15):
I didn't even feel like it wasfour hours, four and a half hours.
It felt a lot less of a time.
And it's got me so like, youknow, up and atom that Oshi and I
are actually gonna go toGettysburg in a couple weeks.
Nice.
So, yeah, a couple weeks fromwhen this episode releases, will
have gone to Gettysburg.
Wow.
Well, if nothing else, it wasworth it for you.
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Yeah, it was.
I mean, I've been toGettysburg before.
I grew up on the east coastfor a little bit, so I went there
as I was a kid, but I haven'tbeen in like 10 years.
And so I was watching this andI was like remembering, you know,
because they have a wonderfulguided tour that when you go there,
I was remembering all thestories that happen and we get into
some of the fight and I'mlike, dude, I texted Oshi because
(03:57):
she wants to go to Salem andsee witchcraft stuff.
Sure.
I was like, I don't.
I will go to Salem if you goto Gettysburg.
And so yeah, this movie didexactly what it was supposed to do.
Felt right into the Gettysburgtrap and it was all started 100%
to be a dick.
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So there, there's that.
There's my comeuppance that I got.
Nice.
Oh yeah, I love this movie.
Nice.
Well, I'll stick it right backto you and say I love all four and
a half hours of this movie.
I was.
If you hadn't put it on thelist, I would have put it on the
list.
And not to be a dick, butbecause this is a great movie about
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a very crazy time in ourhistory and it's very well done and
it's based off of a bookthat's like extremely good.
In fact, it's based on.
Off of one of a trilogy ofbooks that is outstanding.
This one, the one that thisone's based off is Killer Angels.
And the other one is the.
I wondered if it was big.
I love Killer Angels.
(04:59):
Yeah.
One of the only books inschool I'd read that I actually like,
truly liked.
It was awesome.
Have you read the other two?
I haven't.
I didn't know there was other two.
I should read them now.
Gods and generals in the Full measure.
It's.
It's a.
Gods in general is the firstone, Killer Angels is the second,
and then the full measure isthe last.
(05:20):
And they're all equally fantastic.
Great points of view.
Gods in general starts beforethe Civil War, so you kind of get
General Lee and a couple ofother of the.
These generals that you seeand even some of the colonels and
stuff like that through this movie.
You get to see their startgoing through West Point and learn
the differences as to why thenorthern generals were considered
(05:43):
the smarter generals but gottheir asses handed to them for two
years, two and a half years.
And then you know why GeneralLee was so good and like, you know,
all the different ones that wesee here at the end that they talk
about that are just amazing.
So interesting book.
And then the full measure iskind of like the wrap up and you
(06:03):
should read them if youhaven't very good books.
But yeah, I love this movie.
I saw it in high school.
They made us watch, I think myfreshman year.
I was like, oh.
And it took like three weeks.
I was like, jesus Christ, thisis a long ass movie.
But yeah, it's really good.
And I watched it.
I think if you guys watch itthrough Amazon, this was like the.
(06:25):
I watched the extendedversion, which is 20 extra minutes.
Yeah, I was gonna say, oh man.
That means I did too.
Oh, yeah.
It's almost five hours.
I think it's.
It's very long, but very good.
Matt said, I'm sure we know what.
You'Re gonna say, but I mean,yeah, I think you know what I'm gonna
(06:45):
say.
Yes.
And now like, is, Is thismovie long?
Like, yes.
JJ said, this movie's long.
Multiple times.
This movie's very long.
Like, I don't know what peopledid when this movie came out in theaters.
Like, it would have been a lot.
Like they needed multiple intermissions.
Like, people don't have timefor this in a movie theater.
Like, this day and age.
(07:06):
Like, you got to allocate likealmost six hours.
Like, that's a long time.
That being said, this podcast,you know, I'm a sucker for like war
movies and I'm a sucker for history.
So like this movie seemedextremely Historically accurate.
And I absolutely appreciated that.
(07:27):
And I think it was.
I read Kayla Angels.
I've read a lot aboutGettysburg and like, seeing it come
to life and the sheer amountof people that they put in this movie.
I mean, the battle on.
I should remember the hillthat they had to hold on the flank.
Little round top, little round.
Yeah, I mean, I always.
I read about it, knew aboutit, but like, to see it and what
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their interpretation of itlooked like, like, incredible was
the acting.
Like, did it feel like I wasin Gettysburg and like a part of
the crew?
Yeah, like the I.
So it was visually pleasing,well acted, interesting subject matter.
But yeah, it was long.
So I have mixed feelings.
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It's not like I.
I didn't enjoy watching it.
It was just when you got kidsand you got stuff to do.
Like, I can't.
I just can't sit and watchthis movie in one sitting.
So it felt like it took a longtime to get through, but it wasn't
bad.
Like, I was entertained.
There were parts with themonologue and how they speak back
then and things.
You're just like, okay, like,maybe we could just get through that
(08:34):
a little bit.
But at the same time, that'sjust kind of how things were back
then.
But I can appreciate it, like,was a well done movie.
They truly felt like, for me,kind of left no stone unturned with
what they were trying to tell.
And I think that's hard to do.
Granted, they took a largeamount of time to get that done.
So that's the trade off.
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I like it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's.
I think what I like most aboutthis movie, that besides the.
The movie, like actual visualsand all that fun and what it's about.
But, like, I like it because we.
We do talk a lot about moviesthat we've watched that are based
in historical fact, whatever,whether it's, you know, football
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movies or war movies or anykind of movie that had, like, this
is based on a true story.
Like, the thing that I respectabout Michael Shara and the fact
that they didn't let it beshort is the fact that the books,
Killer Angels, those threebooks, are all based on Michael Shah's
research and reading of thejournals of all these guys.
Like, he went through and readhistorical records and journals.
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And so a lot of the dialoguehe took from journals and then put
into this movie as back and forth.
Or those monologues likeGeneral Lee sitting with in that
tent where he kind of is justtalking about.
Well, he's got like eight of them.
But any one of his dialogue,like those.
Those monologues that he does,most of them come at least rooted
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from things that he wrote inhis journal that he was feeling during
that time.
And then he.
They turned it into dialogueto kind of express, like, how he
was feeling.
And that was true for a lot ofthe major players that we see in
this movie.
And, like, it's reallyinteresting to me to think about
one.
The differences in people fromback then and now because, like.
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And they show it very well inthe war.
And I think that's what standsout to me the most is, like, you're
fighting this war, right?
Like, people.
You're killing each other.
Like, it's.
It's brutal.
It's crazy.
But when there gets to a pointwhen you realize, look, we've.
We've got this in the bag,like you.
We've won, they start helpingeach other and, you know, picking
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each other up.
And it's not like they just start.
And I think that it's in starkcontrast to the movies that we're
doing later in this monthbecause you see that we move into
some very brutal wars wherethere isn't that consideration of
the fact that these are human beings.
And.
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And obviously there's a littledifference because half these guys
knew each other from schoolsor, you know, it wasn't as.
As a populated country backthen as we are now.
But it's, you know, it's justone of those things where that, to
me, stands out huge.
Like, the fact that they wentover and at the end, it's huge.
Like, it's a really big thingwith the one General Hancock, I think,
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where he's like.
He's sitting there, and maybeit was a Hancock, it was other.
The other guy that Hancockknew from the Armistead, as he's
laying there and he's tellingthese soldiers, they're trying to
take care of this guy andlike, that, to me, like, that's.
That's wild.
You know what I mean?
Comparatively to how today,like, I don't think you'd see that
same kind of consideration, atleast in general, right?
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Where this.
That was the norm.
Like, it was, hey, look, theseare our people, too.
We're just in a cute war.
I think you said it best, right?
Because these many of theseguys, they.
The generals especially, theyfought with each other.
They were captains when theywere younger, and they were literally
doing this again.
The only comparison I can cometo that is like, the Revolutionary
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War, when many.
Like George Washington, someof those people fought with the British
captains and generals in theFrench and Indian War, like, earlier
than that.
And they knew each other and things.
But you're right, like,obviously, I've never been in a war,
but the camaraderie that youbuild in those moments doesn't really
go away clearly.
And I think they showed thatquite well in this film.
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And when you're fighting yourbrother, that just happens to live,
I don't know, 100 miles fromwhere you lived.
And there's a.
A wee bit of differentideologies, but then you remember
that they're still your friend.
That.
That's probably got to be hardto come to terms with, that times
when they're fighting becauseof something that people say they
should fight for.
But do they really care aboutthat thing being slavery as much
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as a few people do?
It's hard to say.
Yeah.
And I think that was a very.
I like that they dove intothat aspect because this movie definitely
needed.
I mean, there's clear theemotion of the battles and things,
but it needed emotionalcharacter progression or.
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I don't think you literallycould have carried anyone for four
and a half hours.
And I thought they did thatpretty well with a few different
stories.
Yeah.
Well.
And I love the.
The Chamberlain brother story, too.
Like, that's just so.
And I love that they madethat, like, front and center.
And if you don't know thehistory of, like, I.
I'm assuming, Alec, you saidyou've been.
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And you're getting ready to go.
I'm assuming Matt said you've been.
I mean, you live very close.
I mean, it's so.
It's only been once and it'sbeen a while ago, but I've been.
I've been to ManassasBattlefield, like, some of the other
major battles very often.
And so, like, the vibe.
I mean, it looks prettysimilar to Gettysburg in a lot of
senses.
Yeah.
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Did you ever find yourselfduring this movie getting all, like,
jacked up when they'rescreaming, Virginia and like.
Like, yeah, Virginia.
No, when I think of Virginia,I think of traffic and humidity,
so I don't get too dangpassionate about it.
But, no, it's funny, I forgotthat it's been a couple weeks since
I'd seen.
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I was like, oh, yeah.
I should have been like, let's go.
Yeah, Virginia.
Except Virginia was on thewrong side of the battle, so that's
probably where I was like.
And they were absolutely on.
No, because that's.
Where was it.
Was it Richmond?
That was the.
Yeah, the Confederate capital.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
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I don't like I.
It's been a while since we'vebeen there.
Like, I grew, I went there asa kid because I grew up close to
there in Ohio, like eastern Ohio.
Like we were very close toGettysburg and been there a couple
times when I was younger and Ididn't understand or respect like
the scope of that place when Iwas there as a kid.
Not.
What was it back in, I think 2015.
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Ish.
Casey's parents drove downfrom Utah to see us and hang out,
spend some time and we loadedup in a van and they.
We drove up and went toGettysburg with them and.
And as an adult, I had a muchbigger appreciation and understanding
from of like what that place was.
And it's pretty awe inspiringas an adult to like stand there and
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still see.
And they've done a really goodjob of keeping that, keeping that
field and, and little and biground tops, like both historically
what it was during that time.
And it's wild.
Like that final charge thatLee was just gung ho was they were
going to break the center andlike, you see like that tree line,
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you're like, there's no way.
Like, how did you.
You know what I mean?
And so, and it's wild to thinkabout like the success that Robert
E.
Lee had and then in that onemoment, like the overconfidence of
being stuck by this comedy oferrors, you know, from different
generals doing dumb or notdoing what they should have been
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doing and then making poorchoices of not pushing the advance
in that first battle of Gettysburg.
So it's just wild that he'sjust like, no, we've got, we've got
the numbers and we, we can dothis and makes that one mistake that
really just loses them the war.
So it's really wild to me, like.
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But yeah, I found it veryhumbling to stand there and like
you especially after readingall the books and everything else.
And it's just like, wow, okay,this is a linchpin of our country's
history right here.
One of them anyway.
And so it's, it's pretty wildto be there.
So I'm excited for you, Alec,to get to go and like be there as
an adult and kind of hang outand it's cool.
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The tours are bitching.
Like, it's.
Yeah, it's wild.
Wow.
I am stoked.
Something that I really likedabout this movie as well is I think
they did a good job with theRebel Yale.
Mm.
That keeping that kind ofgoing like, because I remember when
I.
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One of the last trips I wentto Louisville, but we took it.
Or not.
Louisville, Gettysburg.
We took a.
The guided tour.
And he was talkingspecifically about the rebel yell.
And they have like a speakerwhere they play it over and they're
kind of like, you know, haveyou close your eyes and kind of.
They give you a visual pictureand you have this thing going the
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way they built this out,things blood chilling.
Yeah.
And to have, you know, beyond.
Beyond the flank.
Right.
Let's put you in Chamberlainshoes on the flank.
And you got smoke going everywhere.
There's no ammo.
You're running low on everything.
Half your dudes are dead andyou're hearing nothing but that coming
out of the smoke.
I'm packing it in, dude.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
And to still make that choiceto like.
Yeah.
To charge down.
Yeah.
Like wild.
No way.
And so I like that they put this.
These, you know, key points inand they make for a great movie,
but there's also the historyback behind it and they just.
They don't take too muchexposition to explain what's going
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on.
They just let it ride and itfits so well.
Yeah.
Which is amazing.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
This.
I remember this.
So I was never like a bighistory guy when I was a kid, but
I will say that in highschool, when they made me watch this
movie, I was not excited.
And I was living in Kentuckyat the time, so I was in a neutral
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state for the war, but verymuch in the south, you know what
I mean?
And like, Kentucky may havebeen neutral during the war, but
when I was a kid, it wasn'tquite as neutral as it used to be.
You know what I mean?
Like, they're sure quick.
They were sure quick a lot oftimes to.
To claim that Confederatelegacy and, you know, what would
have happened and whatnot.
And that's.
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That's a whole different topicthat I could go through and talk
about.
But I remember not being,like, real thrilled about the fact
that we were going to watchthis, because I was like, yeah, whatever,
I don't care.
But then this movie reallykind of turned me on to history and,
like, the fact that the CivilWar is a very.
It's a very interesting warand there's a lot more to it than
what most people.
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What was the Civil War about?
Well, it was about slavery.
Sure.
It absolutely was.
But that's far from the onlything that this war was about, really.
Yeah, like, that's.
That's like.
That's the swing and what wasused to, you know, to start it and
to continue it on and it endedit, which was wonderful and it should
have happened.
But at the same time, like, Ididn't know.
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Like, I always thought as akid that that's all it was about.
And then you get to learningthe history and it's not at all all
that it was about.
But, like, then I.
That's when I started readingthe books and I read Killer Angels
when I was 16 and I was like,this is great.
It was a very hard book to getthrough when I was 16, but it was
really crazy.
And then I read the wholetrilogy, and I've read the whole
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trilogy a couple.
Couple times now.
And I, like, I hadn't watchedthis movie in years because it's
so long, but I was glad thatwe did because, like, I was reminded
of, like, I love theperformance of Martin Sheen and him
being so soft spoken asGeneral Lee, which, you know, it's
known that General Lee wasvery soft spoken and patient and
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calm.
But, like, normally MartinSheen's kind of got this, like, very
loud carrying voice that heuses and he just quiets himself down.
And then, you know, all thesupporting characters, like, not
a big Tom Behringer fan, buthe kills it in this.
And then.
Yeah, like, just so many things.
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What's.
His face is picket.
Like, I love, like the.
The smile that he gives whenhe's like, can you take this?
You know, can you take that.
That ridge?
And he just smiles and goes nuts.
Like, yeah, Stephen Lang or whatever.
Yeah, it's just so manyphenomenal actors.
Like, names that you readthrough and you go, holy.
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All these people are in this movie.
And you can tell, like,especially in those generals and
the leaders.
And I think, honestly at thetime, the most unknown dude was Jeff
freaking Daniels, which iswild to think about now.
But, yeah, really, really goodcasting, I think, was the other.
This couldn't have been acheap movie at the time to make,
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though, from a set piece standpoint.
Probably very cheap because Iknow that they did a lot of the filming
there in Gettysburg, so it wasprobably a lot cheaper to do it there
than, you know, in a studioand having to build the sets and
things like that.
But from a casting standpoint,they probably.
And I don't know, maybe theseactors were like, yeah, we'll do
this.
But it.
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Because it's a commitment.
But there's also a lot of goodCivil War movies, and I think this
one's the best.
And I love Glory, don't get me wrong.
Like, I think it's phenomenal,but I think this one's the best of
them.
But, yeah.
So I will say something that I hate.
Oh.
And it's.
It's.
It's something that Ishouldn't hate, because I know it's
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the way it is.
Sure.
It's the little bit of theextras, because you have a lot of
the extras are Civil Warreenactors, and they just have fun
out there in that PennsylvaniaJune heat.
And so, like, it's the littlebit, the beginning, where you have
the villagers, right?
And they're doing, like, thetelling the soldiers, like, where
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have you been?
Right.
Cattle raids have been happening.
I'm just sitting there going,oh, my God.
Yeah, but that's it, right?
That's the character.
You go to any kind of place onthe east coast historical site, and
that's everybody.
And they do not break character.
It does not matter what isgoing on.
Whole place could be burningdown and they'll still be in character.
And then it's.
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It's funny as well, because,like, when they do the charge off
a little round top, you gotthe union officer in front of the
sword.
He's just, like, dancing.
Yeah.
It's like.
It's like, hey, I get it, right?
What he's doing.
He's looking back to make surehis guys are still following them.
But the way he's, like,jumping around, pirouetting down
the hill, I'm like, oh, dude,he's having way too much fun.
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That's true.
I love how dramatic some ofthem are, too, shot.
Like the one guy that, like,jumps, it's like, yeah, you're definitely
a Civil War reenactor.
And I get for them, like, it'sdifferent because they have to do
that so that the people thatare standing and watching from the
outskirts can see people die.
Like, they have to be super dramatic.
But, like, in the movie, it'sreally funny.
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And I love that they use thatguy twice because he jumps and then
it cuts away, and then like acouple seconds later it comes back
and he jumps again.
Like, that was the same guy twice.
Yeah.
So, yeah, there's some of them.
Those couple moments that arein there where you're just kind of
like, oh, my gosh, this is so hokey.
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They're just being Civil warand actors and just having the grandest
old time doing it.
And so a couple of those onesare just, ah.
Because it frequently that'slike, comes after a big kind of or
during a big moment whereyou're like, you know, you're getting
ready to go, and you're justlike, oh, okay, cool.
Yeah, yeah, There we go.
That's what I was missing in this.
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That's funny.
That's funny.
Yeah.
There was another one that.
Another moment like that thatI was like, oh, God.
I think it might have been one.
Some dude, like, was gettingbayoneted or something, and he's,
like, doing all this, like,acting all goofy.
I was like, oh, God, get outof here.
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But yeah, there's some funnymoments where they overact the.
Out of it.
I mean, they didn't quiteoften or just some of that.
You're just like, all right,well, this made a while ago.
They probably could have beena little bit more buttoned up with
the choreography.
But, yeah, I mean, what areyou gonna tell old Joe Schmo that's
like, this is my shot.
Like, I've been.
I've been reenacting for eight years.
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I'm in the movie now.
This is evil.
Have either of you ever beento a Civil War react reenactment?
One of the live ones?
Yeah, I've been to multiple Alec.
You got to try to find a way.
Like, it's wild.
I don't know that they do themthat much.
I'm sure they do.
Look, I say that, but I've.
I lived in the South.
They.
They love their Civil Warreenactments, but.
It'S an excuse to drink andact like you went to war.
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Yeah, I also.
So when I was in Kentucky, wehad a.
One of my professors was.
He did Civil War reenactments,and then he was like, a Civil War
Bob is the one that made uswatch this movie.
And then he picked two of us to.
He had a Union uniform and afull legit Confederate uniform.
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And so I got picked with abuddy of mine to go.
We went to his house, and wegot to try on the uniform.
And then, like, we dressed upin this uniform, and he actually
had old Civil War muskets thathe taught us how to load and then
fire.
So we went out, and this was.
Shows the sign of the timesbecause you'd never be able to do
this nowadays.
But, like, we went out in thisbig field out by our high school
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that was out back of it, andit was.
And we were in this full wool,by the way, this was legit.
And it was hot as fuck.
And it was like springtime in Kentucky.
Was it JJ Hot or was it.
No, dude.
Like, this was, like, horrid hot.
Like, seriously, this isprobably why you hate the heat.
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It could be like, it was full,like, okay, so you have like your
normal, like I had normalunder clothes on, right?
And then you had this, thisbutton up shirt that went on and
then there was this, the blue jacket.
And because I moved fromKentucky from, to Kentucky from Ohio,
he made me wear the Union uniform.
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And then my buddy who was fromTennessee, he put in the, the Confederate
one.
So.
But I put on this jacket andit's heavy as hell.
It weighs like seven pounds.
Okay.
And it's made of pure wool.
Like I'm not kidding, it's notlike kind of wool.
It's like that nasty scratchyass blanket that your grandpa used
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to keep in the back of thetruck that he like.
Because if you got cold, youput it on and it's super heavy, but
it itches like a.
Again, it didn't matter.
Like I had like that shirt on,but it itched right through it.
And then the pants were justwool too.
And then you had this big assheavy leather belt.
So by the time you're done,it's like packing a 15 pound backpack
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on your body.
Then you have this musket thatweighs like 12 pounds.
Like it was wild how much?
And I'm like, this is crazy.
And then to think about theseguys running in this and then being
out there in the heat and thehumidity, I was like, I would have,
I would have died.
I'd have been the, that gotcaught running away like in that
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first scene.
Like that have been my ass.
And I'd have been one of thosethree that are like, you can court
martial my ass.
I ain't doing it because thatwas hot.
And so we went out, but we, helet us like do like in front of the
like the whole class wassitting there.
And so then we would line upand we, we loaded the musket.
But without the ball, obviously.
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But cool thing about musk isyou can load them without the ball
and still fire them.
And it's like you're firing them.
Yeah.
And we got to fire it.
Outside the high school, thatwas the wildest.
I was like this, you couldnever get away with that today.
But yeah, so it was crazy.
But that in that, that momentlike really got me into like what
else about the Civil War andthen what about history in general,
especially our country's history.
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But it was nuts.
It was a lot of fun.
But God, I was glad to takethat off.
It was so hot.
It was horrible.
So I can't even imagine theseguys like in that uniform, running
down a hill, climbing up thehill, for crying out loud.
And then like it's not a small hill.
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It says, oh, Round Top, but it.
Is not a small hill.
Little, my ass.
Only because it's littler than big.
Round Top.
That's the only thing it's not little.
Okay, let's just call what itis you would have been in the artillery.
Oh, even that.
I don't know if I would have done.
Like, it have been hot asballs over there, too, dude.
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I still had to wear that uniform.
I would have died.
I would have died.
Because then as you'resweating, it soaks it all up so it
gets even heavier.
I'm out.
I would have literally died.
Not because I got shot or anything.
But, like, JJ would have beensmoking and chewing that tobacco
to an early death.
Yeah, I.
Sucking up.
I'll watch this whole movie.
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I was like, I want a cigar,God damn it.
It's all that good Southern tobacco.
Becky to Becca.
I've had my good fair share ofSouthern tobacco.
Yeah, I.
I really like this movie, nomatter how long it is.
And I, I.
One of my favorite, like, someof my favorite parts, to be honest,
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which is weird for me, islike, the.
The overdub.
Like, the.
The recording of their thoughts.
Like, the first one you see is.
Generally surprising that you.
That's very uncharacteristic.
The re.
There's a reason for it, andthat's because those.
The lines that you hear thatare audio over, and it's the thoughts
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of, like, Chamberlain andGeneral Lee.
And I think there was oneother one that they had do it, but
those are directly out oftheir journals.
Like, they're not written forthe movie.
Those came directly from thosemen's journals.
And, like, so the wholeChamberlain, where he's talking about
everything that they're doingin the war and stuff like that, like,
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all of that came directly for.
They.
They didn't change it.
They didn't grammaticallycorrect it.
Like, that was what they wrotein their journal, and they.
That's why they did it that way.
So sitting and listening tothat and then being able to have,
like.
Even though we know it'sMartin Sheen's face, but to listen
to, like, the words of GeneralRoberts Lee in the midst of this,
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understanding that right nowthey're winning the war.
At this point, they're winningthe war not by a large margin, but
enough that they're confident and.
But to still have thereservations and the thoughts and
how are we going to do this?
And is this the right call?
And to have to have the weightof that entire process on your Shoulders
and then, oh my gosh.
But I love those momentsbecause I'm like, I'm listening to
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the words of these people thatactually lived in this moment.
And that's wild to me.
Like, that's why I think whenyou can read that or listen to that
kind of thing, that's so coolto get that kind of insight into
this person, that these peoplethat historically are giants, right?
And man, just to know thatthey were thinking probably the same
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thing that most of us wouldhave been thinking, at least to some
extent.
Where there's, there's fear,there's trepidation, there's doubt,
there's overconfidence,there's a lack of confidence.
All those things that aregoing through those guys minds.
It's so cool to me.
So I, I love that part of thismovie that they actually found a
way to inject that into the movie.
So I think that's my favorite part.
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Okay, should we rate this thing?
Let's do it.
It's a very short podcast fora very long ass movie, but I like
it.
All right, Alec, kick us off, buddy.
My movie, my go.
I'm gonna give it four and a half.
It's the little nitpickythings that pull me out of the movie
and they're important.
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Like, I know that's the way itis and everything like that, but
it just at times is so hokeythat it ruins almost the real kind
of message behind the movie orthe importance or the gravitas that
was happening.
But it's, it's an enjoyable watch.
Like it's something that neverfeels as long as it actually is.
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And I mean, it's also onewhere you don't really want to skip
through the monologues or thequieter parts or the less parts because
they, they're so important.
They still have a lot of drawto them to where, I mean, there's
no easy way to cut it down.
And some other movies you'd belike, ah, skip, skip, skip, skip,
skip, skip, skip.
Here you can't really do that,but I'll give it a four and a half
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and I will sit down and watchthis anytime.
I like it.
Madison.
I mean, I agree with Alec thatyou can't skip the dialogue, but
this movie does feel long.
I don't, I don't know whatuniverse that you live in.
It definitely is a long movie.
Like I.
You can't, you can't trickyourself with that.
I would say the same thingabout a movie that I love, Being
the Dark Knight.
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It's a long movie.
And like I said with thatmovie, you've got to be invested
into this movie.
It's not something that youcan pop in, pop out.
Like you want to do it right,you got to sit down, you got to have
the snacks, got to have the time.
Got to give it the respectthat it deserves.
So with that, I'm going togive it a three and a half.
Obviously a massive dockingfor the amount of time.
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But if you are into historyand you haven't seen this movie and
you like, like Americanhistory and the Civil War and things
like, you should definitelysee this movie.
You should go read Killer Angels.
I think you'll enjoy what's onscreen, take some time, maybe split
up into two chunks, a SaturdaySunday thing, but you'll be happy
that you did.
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Yeah, I'm going to give it afour and a half as well.
I'm with kind of in betweenthe two of you.
Like I can feel that it's longwhen I think about it, but I get
lost in this movie.
So like I was, when I watchedit, I was sitting there going, I'm
three hours in already.
I'm like, I've been watchingthis for a long ass time, but I like
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what I'm watching.
And, and while I can feelevery moment of the four, especially
like the last like half anhour of this extended edition, I
was like, good lord, this is long.
But when I'm watching it, likeI get really wrapped up in what's
going on.
And the dialogue for me, like I.
And I said the, the overdubdialogue is really great and I love
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it for that very reason.
But the conversations too,like the conversation, conversations
between, like the one wherethey're sitting at the top of the
rock after the battle ofLittle Round Top and like the Chamberlain
brothers are discussingeverything together and like what's
been going on.
Or the moment where like Isaid, Tom Behringer's talking to
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Stephen Lang and, and likeyou're like, geez.
Like, this is like theconversations feel really long, but
if you sit down and you listento them, they're having this meaningful
dialogue about I don't want todo this.
This isn't the right choice,but I'm gonna do it because my general
has told me to do it.
And so they weighing all theseoptions out.
Anyway, like, I just love thedialogue in this movie.
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Even more so than the battle.
If I'm skipping anything, it'sthe battle scenes.
Because I don't care so muchabout most of like those scenes.
Of, like, the fights.
Like, I understand what'shappening there.
I want to listen to these mentalk to each other, to themselves.
And that's what really gets meto this.
Because that understanding ofwhere they're at and, like, what
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they're thinking and howthey're planning, that stuff really
intrigues the out of me.
So I do get lost in it.
So I forget that I'm watchingfour and a half hours or almost five
hours of movie.
So, yeah, I highly recommendgo watching this, too.
I will say my.
If I'm.
I'm docking it for.
For till four and a half.
It's a combination of the factthat it is almost five hours long
and the goofy that Alextalking about that I can't help but
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giggle at as I'm watching it.
I'm like, I shouldn't belaughing during this movie, at this
part, because people are dying.
But I can't help.
This guy jumps like three feetin the air because of a musket ball.
It's just like, I evenunderstand, like.
And the other one that bothersme, that's really stupid that it
bothers me as much as it doesis the cannonball.
Like, that's not howcannonballs back then worked.
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Like, they had some that wereexplosive, but most of the time those
were on naval ships and theyhad artillery.
But these were cannons.
These weren't like boom, boom stuff.
This is like, hit somebody andtear you in half.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's.
These are cannonballs.
They'd hit and roll for 3ftand break people's legs and tear
them off.
And I get.
You can't show that in 1993.
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But at the same time, like,every time a cannonball exploded,
like, they didn't explode.
God damn it.
But what I feel like theyshowed they could have.
They had movies that showedthat they just decided that wasn't
this movie.
PG 13.
Oh, that.
I don't know.
Could be.
I.
There were a couple of sceneswhere they showed, like, dudes missing
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legs and stuff.
So.
Yeah.
And like.
So I don't know.
What is it?
Oh, Israelite.
Pg.
Good Lord.
Well, there you go.
There's your answer.
That's fair.
But I don't know why thatbothers me so much, but exploded.
And that's not just this movie.
Anytime they show war movieswith exploding cannonballs, it pisses
me off.
Like contact with the earth,like earth flying up in the air,
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that's fine.
But the explosions and thefire coming out.
Explosions.
I hate that.
Explosions, explosions.
I love Explosions, just notfrom a cannonball.
Like not from a 12 pound pieceof freaking lead.
Like that's not how that worked.
But anyway, I digress.
I actually appreciate thatthey made this movie PG though because.
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Yeah, it just allows kids thatdo get enthralled with something
like this to not have to likeparents don't have to have the war
of like.
Well, like, you know, theyread the book, they should watch
it.
I don't know, like, don't getme wrong, I love a good war scene.
I love seeing the realism.
But like, you know, it's alsokind of nice.
You want to watch it with likeyour 8 year old son, like go for
it.
Yeah, well, it's realisticenough that you understand that you're
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watching a war movie.
Right?
But I'm with you.
Like I don't need to see acannonball roll down and tear some
dude's leg off for me to go.
And I understand they need itto be dramatic so that you know that
a cannonball landed.
But it bothers me.
I don't.
It's stupid.
It's a me thing.
But anyway, that's my four anda half.
I will watch this almostanytime, but I break it up typically.
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Like I will usually watch itin two parts.
I didn't this time.
But there used to be when itcame out on VHS.
That's how old this movie was.
Back in the 90s there were twoVHS tapes and I don't remember where
the cutoff was.
I think it might have been thebattle of Little Round Top.
Once that was done, they hadthat conversation between the Chamberlain
brothers and then it cut andit's like, please insert tape too.
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So that's how old I am is.
I watched that when you had tobreak it apart and watch it in two
movies.
So I still do.
I don't think I've had to dealwith the VHS, but definitely did
that with a few DVDs for sure.
Yeah.
Lord of the Rings being theeasiest example of that.
Yep.
This was the first time I everwatched a movie that I had to swap
VHS tapes.
And I sure did.
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It was fun.
So there it is.
Our we kick off.
What a way to kick off of Mayand the month of war movies.
And I like it.
I like our picks.
I like that we started withthis one.
It's an interesting movie andI love it.
So we'll see you for the restof them.
But Alec, before we go, telleverybody where they can find us.
Happy to J.J.
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like J.J.
just said, this is week one ofour wartime movies.
And best part is there was noother kind of parameters other than
war movies.
So we're gonna be going allover the place in history.
It's gonna be a fantastic month.
Shout out to our patrons.
It's Charles and Rich who madethe selection for this and then made
the selection for war movies,then went ahead and made the selection
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of which movies to choose from.
So there that lineup isentirely on them.
They picked a great one.
Don't come at me in the comments.
It wasn't my fault.
Speaking of the Patreon,that's the place to get involved
in our content.
We have a ton of extraepisodes out, ton of behind the scenes
content.
You can get involved in thevoting process to select topics and
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to select movies that goinside the topics.
So follow us there.
What's our verdict?
Reviews to get all of yourwhatsoever needs taken care of.
With that, I'll kick it backto the Maharajah of Mash, the King
of Crash.
Oh, jj, love it.
Thanks, Alec.
Yeah, go check out Patreon.
It's fun.
Yeah, we really are kind ofall over the place this month.
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Are they pattern?
Yeah, there's no likeconnective tissue other than war.
All sorts of crazy storiestoo, but they're all kind of heart
wrenching and interesting intheir own ways.
But yeah, with that as always,we appreciate you tuning in.
We'll catch you on the next one.
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Hasta la vista, baby.
Cinematic out.
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