January 20, 2025 • 41 mins
Alec, Mattson and JJ dive into a detailed discussion of Quentin Tarantino's film "Inglourious Basterds," exploring its unique blend of historical fiction and dark humor. The hosts debate the film's pacing, particularly its middle section, which some feel could benefit from tighter editing. They highlight the standout performances of Christoph Waltz and Brad Pitt, emphasizing how their characters drive the narrative and create tension. The conversation also touches on the film's satirical elements, with a focus on its portrayal of Nazi propaganda and the absurdities of war. Overall, the episode offers insights into both the strengths and weaknesses of Tarantino's storytelling style, making it a thoughtful analysis for fans of cinema.
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JJ Was in Ohio.
No one wants to live there.
It was the Nantucket Island.
Whatever.
Big difference there.
Big, big difference.
Welcome to the what's Every podcast.
We fashion ourselves cinematicjudge and jury.
My name is J.J.
crowder.
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Don't tell any of them about us.
With that, we're in week threeof original screenplays.
And what would a month oforiginal screenplays be without at
least one Quentin Tarantino film?
So let's talk about Inglorious Bastards.
It was released August 21, 2009.
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It was written and directed byQuentin Tarantino.
Stars Brad Pitt, Eli Roth,Melanie Laurent, Diane Krueger, Christoph
Waltz, Michael Fassbender,Till Schwager, Daniel Brule and Gideon
Burkhardt.
It is about Nazi occupiedFrance during World War II.
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A plan Nazi leaders by a groupof Jewish U.
S.
Soldiers coincides with thetheater owner's vengeful plans for
the same.
Yeah, Nancy, if.
If Alec hadn't put this on thepodcast, I would have the list, because
I.
Anyway, Alec, your movie.
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You go, my friend, and then Iwill talk.
I'm a Tarantino fan, so I likethe way he writes his stories.
Right.
He takes a point in time thatdid exist, and then he changes it
to fit the story.
He wants to tell of what couldhave happened.
And I feel like that's in manyways like, almost as original as
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you can get with today's, youknow, movie, I guess is the best
way to put it, because youneed a scene or a backdrop that people
are gonna relate to and recognize.
You need to draw them in thetheater for the making the money.
So you pick a time frame wherethat'll work.
And then he just breaks everysingle rule of cinema after that
to tell the story he wants to tell.
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And he is completelyunapologetic about it.
That's fair.
So I love Tarantino because hejust kind of does.
He chooses a historicalbackdrop and then just does whatever
he wants within that story.
This is one of my favoritesbecause I do loved World War II history
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in that kind of time frame.
And the team he assembled forthis is, bar none, amazing.
Christoph Waltz is phenomenal.
And, you know, then you justthrow in Brad Pitt as Aldo the Apache,
and they.
Those two playing kind ofantagonist to each other, completely
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opposite.
That are both brilliant intheir own way.
Like, it just comes togethervery, very nicely and well done.
And I enjoy this movie quite a bit.
Yeah, I picked it, and Iwanted to give Madison something
to look forward to.
I've been kind of mean to himthe last seven or eight years.
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That's funny.
Was this his first time?
And I don't know.
I'd have to go back and lookso twin.
Quentin Tarantino is kind ofhit and miss with me, but I do enjoy
this one.
But was this the first timethat he kind of took his history,
like, actual written history,and, like, revamped it in an utterly
insane way?
Because, like, yeah, whathappens to Hitler obviously didn't
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happen, but, like, it was thisthe first time.
Because I'm trying to think ofwhat else.
Like, I don't think, like,Reservoir Dogs.
I know Pulp Fiction, but he'sobviously done it since then because
Once Upon a Time in Hollywooddid the same thing in this.
It was in the same vein and then.
But, yeah, nothing else.
This was the first one, kind of.
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Because Kill Bill didn'treally do it either.
No, yeah, yeah.
I was gonna say, like, I.
This one was interesting, and I.
Again, Quentin Tarantino ishit and miss.
Like, I think early on, like,he was one of my favorites.
Like, I love Pulp Fiction'sgreat, and I'm not a vignette kind
of guy, but, like, that oneworks for me, the way it twists and
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turns and then brings it allback at the end.
But then I really likedReservoir Dogs as well.
I.
I will say that, like, he lostme on some of, like, the middle like,
when he did the one where he.
Robert Rodriguez.
The double feature one where he.
I don't remember the one hedid, but anyway, I didn't love that
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one.
But this one, when.
When this one came out, like,I was kind of hesitant to go see
it because I was like, hehasn't done much that I've been excited
about since Pulp Fiction, butthis one just hit different.
Like.
And I'll say this has one ofthe greatest openings, in my opinion.
Like, that opening scene onthe farm and, like, with Christoph
Waltz just, like, being anutter horrifying human being, like,
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because he's just so calm andnice and polite.
And then there's that momentwhen he switches and he's telling
this guy.
We've had this entireconversation so that you have no
mistake that I know thatyou're hiding people in your floorboards.
Like, and his face changes.
Like, there's a look in his eye.
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And I was like, oh, we justwatched greatness.
And then, like, at the end, heshouts out, like, the guy's up in
the best possible way for amovie like this.
Like, and that set the tone.
And I've got some criticismsthat we'll talk about, but that I
was like, I'm gonna like thismovie for that first 30 minutes,
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regardless of the rest of it.
And then there's some othergreat parts too, but, like, geez,
that opening scene is insane.
The other scene that I didn'texpect is when he strangles the movie
actress.
I didn't think he was justgonna outright, like, go for it right
there.
Like, whoa, okay.
Like, you knew.
I mean, you knew immediately.
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Like, when they said theirItalian was like, just like, okay.
And grads.
I'm like, yeah, whoa, you're dead.
Like, how.
Yeah, you're gone.
Yeah, Gorlami.
That's.
Yes.
And to your point, like, yeah,that's one thing about Tarantino
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that I like, especially inthis movie.
Like, he.
There is no boundaries.
Like, he'll do whatever.
And again, to your point,like, to tell the story he wants
to tell, like, he'll do whatever.
Including killing off a lotof, like, big characters died.
Like, you're like, what?
Because for me, I'd never seenthis movie all the way through.
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I realized as I watched, I waslike, oh, my gosh, I'd never.
I'd seen enough of it, but Ihadn't seen all the way through.
And I would.
There was a couple times,like, I can't believe they just died.
Like, that's a very well knownactress or actor.
Like, they're gone.
Okay, well, all right.
I guess no one's safe fromdying in this movie.
Potentially the only thingthat got me.
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And I knew halfway there,like, I was like, I don't think this
scene is in this movie.
I wanted the, I think it's an.
Is it in Valkyrie with theHitler scene where he like, he freaks
out.
That whole speech, thatmonologue, he's like.
And he's like freaking out.
The one that they meme on allthe different, like, yeah, that one
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naked about everything.
That's actually a, that's notValkyrie either.
I don't think I'm trying toremember what.
I need to go watch that moviejust so I can appreciate that again.
I wanted that to be in thismovie because to me, that was the
only thing I was like, Ineeded some crazy Hitler scene.
Like, I needed him to like,just lose his marbles.
I think they missed out onthat, to be honest.
I, I, I feel like that wouldhave fit really well in this movie
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and could have been awesome,but they never gave me that.
I really wanted that, like,really, really, really bad.
Besides that, the, like,opening scene, awesome acting is
awesome.
Things are satirical and overthe top.
The thing with Tarantinomovies that get me sometimes is the
pace.
Like, I have to like, you gotto, you got to take the, the good
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and the bad with that, like, Iknow going in, I'm like, okay, like
there's, it's going to bedialogue heavy.
Thankfully, the dialogue isusually supreme, but at times it's
still like it can, it can takea little bit of its toll on you where
like another director couldgive you dialogue, but supplement
it with a little bit more eyecatchy action that like, helps you
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through, but that's not Tarantino's.
And like, I'm not here to saydoesn't need to do that, but I think
at times this is the type ofmovie, like, do I want to go watching
Glorious Basterds tomorrow ortwo weeks from now or a month from
now?
Yeah, like, probably not.
But when I do re watch itagain, there's great scenes, it's
interesting, it's funny at times.
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And I'll like be like, oh man,that's great movie.
But it, it does give me as aviewer some fatigue at times, but
I don't think it's, it's agreat movie.
Yeah, I think one of mybiggest gripes with Tarantino in
general is he gets bloated insome of it, like, because it's so
dialogue heavy.
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Two and a half hours is longerthan this movie needs to be.
And I'm.
I've always said two hours isthe sweet spot for me most of the
time, as long as it'sentertaining and interesting.
But, like, even this one, Ithink 2 hours and 15 minutes probably
could have been okay.
I think there's an argumentfor a two hour version of this movie,
but I think two hours andfifteen makes a lot of sense because
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there is a lot of dialogue inthis one specifically, even more
so than, I think a lot of hisothers that are very pertinent.
And I think it's.
The dialogue is veryinteresting in this movie.
Especially like that bar scene.
First of all, the scene beforeit where Fassbender and Pit are having
it in a bar or in a basement.
Like, that whole back andforth about where he says in a basement
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like six times, like, makes melaugh because you know this is going
to be a show because he's.
They spend so much timeleading into it with the basement
argument.
The instant you walk downthere and there's all these German
soldiers and you can just seethey're like, God damn it.
And so, like, it's just great.
But I think that's one thingand, and even this one suffers a
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little bit from the.
I call it the Tarantino bloatbecause he.
The one thing about him is he'll.
He's gonna do whatever the.
He wants.
He's gonna make his movie,which I respect, but sometimes he
gets a little this.
It's like sometimes it doesn'tknow when to let it go because, like,
the bar scene was intriguing,but then they play the game and it's
like, man, you, like, maybeyou could have ended like four minutes
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sooner than that because youstill drove home with a really clever,
witty, catchy dialogue.
But do you always just go onestep too far?
Like the opening scene, did it go.
Was it long?
Sure.
But that to me set up whatthat character was and how he was
so smart.
You knew he was going to catchpeople like that needed it.
But like the, the Naziofficer, like, hey, like, sure, but
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do I care about him as much asI care as some of these other people
know?
And I think that's just wheremaybe like someone that told Tarantino
no, which nobody exists,that's going to do that with his
film.
But if he had someone thatcould like do that in his corner,
saving him from himself,that's all I would say.
But at the same time, I mean,what a.
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What a great.
Pretty wild.
Yeah, I followed why he did that.
Even Though I don't reallylike it so much.
But it's all leading up tothat stupid three joke, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I get.
I get where he was going.
But, yeah, it's.
It's too much because you cando that much quicker.
Yeah.
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The extra dialogue, right.
Like, I could have done lesswith Gary and Gibbles and, you know,
the Frederick Zoller.
Right.
But give.
Give me two and a half hoursof Christoph Waltz.
Yeah.
His processes.
Because he could go on a 5, 10minute monologue, and it's the most
enrapting part of the film.
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Oh, yeah.
Versus, you know, you have allthis extra going in that you're like.
You know, you mentioned it.
The Tarantino bloat, whereit's like, okay, you could have sped
this up a bit, but I know whyyou did it.
But you didn't have to, right?
You're.
You're now well known enough.
Just go ahead and get to the point.
Yeah, yeah.
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1.
He was relatively unknown atthis point too, wasn't he?
I mean, at least in American circles.
Like, yeah, he's been aroundin Germany for a long time, but I
don't think.
Yeah, because he did, like, a.
Pretty sure he did a Germanversion of the Orient Express, which
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is weird.
But, yeah.
Anyway, like, he wasrelatively unknown, but I could watch
anything that he's in.
Christoph Waltz, sign me up.
Like, I'll watch it just towatch him.
And that opening scenestarted, but then I.
I don't know.
It's tough, too, because theone that really got me the most in
this was Brad Pitt.
Like, when he first pops up inthat second act like, scene with
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as freaking Aldo Rain.
Like, that whole speech to the soldiers.
Like, I.
The debit part.
Like, Casey.
Okay, so Casey had never seenthis movie, and she's not a Tarantino
fan, but, like, she watcheduntil she fell asleep about halfway
through, which I was like,hey, that says something too.
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But, like, we're.
So we're watching this.
And.
And when he's like, you takeon debit?
And it's.
She's like, did he.
Did he just say debit insteadof debt?
I'm like, yep.
She goes, why does that makeso much sense for this character?
I'm like, because it works.
Like, the whole.
Like.
But seeing Brad Pitt as thatcharacter, like, I just love.
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Like, it's just anothertestament to him, like, where he
can.
It's kind of a chameleon.
Like, he can be pretty muchany act, any character.
But, like, I love him as this character.
Too.
Like, his speech every time he.
This might be my masterpiece.
Like, every.
And, like, the whole.
Are you gonna take that Naziuniform off?
Like.
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Like, I.
Yeah, there is those two for me.
Just absolute scene stealers.
Like, this movie would not begood without Christoph Waltz and
Brad Pitt in it.
Like, it would be manageable,but it wouldn't be good.
Like, I want to watch thosetwo idiots go on a road trip together.
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Like, dude, just the.
Yeah, that's the sheer beautyof the dialogue with those two.
And then for them to be.
And you get.
It's kind of an interestingthing because you watch both of them
have these solitary sceneswhere they're just absolutely acting
the.
Out of it.
And then when they finally getto come together at the end during
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the negotiation scene orwhatever, like, so good.
Just so good.
Well, I don't need him.
Ah, I'm gonna get my ass chewed.
Burst.
I've been chewed out before.
I've been chewed out before.
I might get chewed out, butI'm gonna.
Chewed out before.
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Yeah, Like, I just.
That whole.
I love it.
The dynamic between those two.
They.
Yeah, there's a reasonTarantino keeps pulling two of them
up, since it is too, because,yeah, they're.
They're great in his movies,but I don't know.
And this is another one that's like.
It's just so original becauseit shocked me the first time I watched
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it.
It, like, the whole movietheater scene, like, when they just
start murking everybody and,like, they make Swiss cheese out
of Hitler, I'm like, whoa,what is going on right now?
Like, I was like, I don'tremember that.
In eighth grade history.
Wait, what?
I was like, that's not howthat worked.
I was like.
And I gu.
Nobody really knows.
And so at least not thatthey've told everybody in public.
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So it's like, it could beanything that happened to him.
You know what I mean?
But at the same time, it'sjust like, that's an interesting
way to play this whole thing out.
And, like.
Yeah, but I.
Yeah, that was another onethat I was just like, okay, didn't
see that coming.
But that was great.
But I do love theridiculousness of the whole movie
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theater thing, too.
Like, with the Italian accentsand, like, try to.
Like, it just is.
You could tell they.
Without Fazbender.
They're just so.
And it's just so great.
But they.
Because they just like, Idon't care.
We're gonna do it anyway.
We'll make it work.
Yeah, we'll figure it Out.
No, I mean, that's.
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The movie is so over the top.
Because in real life, if youknew you spoke that little Italian,
you're not doing that.
Never.
Not ever.
Yeah, because if the actress,whatever her, she'd be like, well,
speak a little Italian to me.
And that's how he.
She'd be like, no.
And her cast, like, what didthey cast her in?
A heel?
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Like, like, what?
Like, what was that about?
So ridiculous.
I swear, that's a Tarantinoshot at Hollywood.
Like, that's him with feet.
Yeah, him and him and Hollywood.
And, like, you know, the factthat somebody.
We would be vain enough tohave them cast with their heel on,
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like, could see him doingthat, too.
Just because then, you know,they're not limping down the hot.
The thing.
They're walking because it'sthe same height.
It's just.
I don't know.
Tarantino's a prick that way.
Like, there's a reason he does everything.
You just have to figure it out.
But, yeah, I'm with you.
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Like, that's a wild scene, butit's still funny as hell, too.
Like, I think that's the partthat I love the most about it is,
like, it's so ridiculous, andyet I love it.
And normally I'm like, come on.
And there's a part of methat's like, that's just not gonna
happen to Madsen's point.
But I laugh my ass off whenthey're just like.
And they're being all serious, too.
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Like, but he can't.
It's just great.
It's great.
Yeah.
I did.
Like, they kind of mixed alittle bit of the ridiculous audacity
with some of the common sense.
Like, you have the one guy.
When they're discussing whospeaks the most Italian, it's like.
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And, Donnie, you speak third best.
And it's like, I don't speak Italian.
And so, like, that's exactlywhat Matthew was kind of saying.
Like, no, we don't speak Italian.
But then you just have theaudacity, you know, the just out
there kind of brazenness whereit's like, yeah, that's what I said.
Third best.
Just keep your mouth shut.
We'll make it through all day.
Yeah, but you have this.
You have a nice little mixthrown in there of that common sense
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to where, like, okay, yeah,that, that.
Like, this.
This isn't gonna work.
But then he just immediatelysquashes it with, yeah, just shut
up and it'll be fine.
Like, nobody asked for your opinion.
Yeah, it's great.
One Thing I appreciatewatching this is I too, like Alec
and maybe, like a lot ofpeople, I love World War II history,
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and I've watched a lot ofstuff over the past, like in 2024,
about document is a World WarII with Churchill and Hitler and
especially Hitler's inner circle.
So in this movie, when itcalls out, like, Guring and Goebbels
and shoot, I should remember acouple of the other people's names,
but they all, like, kind oflooked like them.
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And I was like, oh, man.
I felt more realistic.
I know.
I know who these people are.
I know why Go roll.
Or Goebbels would care aboutthis film being so well received
and, like, having the approvalfrom Hitler and, like, caring so
much about where this premiereis, because he literally did care
about all that stuff very deeply.
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And they all were looking forways to impress Hitler.
So I was like, as brazen andweird as it sounds, like this would
have been like, a real, like,feasible thing that could have gone
on.
They.
Tarantino just obviouslyramped up the satire, but I was like,
yeah, it's probably whathappened May.
They probably did have some,like, promotional movie premiere.
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And, yeah, having a supersoldier that literally couldn't miss
two.
Two bullets to the kneecaps,one to the chest, and, like, unlimited
ammo killed, like, 60 Britishand American soldiers.
Like, no problem.
Like, oh, yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
The serious propaganda machinethat was churning out at that time
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from that side.
Yeah, it's.
I appreciate that, too.
And the fact that.
Look, I love the scene, too,where they are introducing the bastards
from the other side and, like,cut into that.
Almost what you're lookingfor, where the Hitler character,
nine, nine, nine, nine, like,and he's telling him, no, we're gonna
keep this quiet.
And then he's like, send inthe fact we're not even gonna call
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him the bear too.
Anymore.
Like, and then, like, theybring him in and, like, I like that
scene of, like, how it'splayed of Hitler trying to mitigate
the problems that this squadis causing.
Like, and you.
No, you're not to tell anyonethat that's what happened.
I just wanted to freak out more.
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Like, I thought that wasperfectly teed up.
Because what we know aboutHaley, he had a temper.
I was like, man, he could havejust blown a gasket right here.
It was everything you just said.
It was funny and clever.
I was like, he could.
I would have taken two moreminutes of explosive dialogue.
Yeah, no, I'm with you.
That's one of the funniestmeme like when people make videos
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of that clip that you'retalking about, like about the million
different things that Hitlercould be screaming and yelling about,
like he does in that movie.
And I wish.
What movie is that from?
Because that scene, I mean, ismeme like lore.
Like you can put almostanything superimposed on that.
And it's funny.
Oh yeah.
I'm pretty sure I've seen onesabout Ohio State football on there.
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Like, I mean, it's like youcan literally plug in anything and
it's.
Yeah, it's funny.
I don't know what movie.
I'll have to look it up.
We'll have to do.
I gotta look that up too.
Because that's a.
I wanted that to be in this.
But yeah, I mean it's.
This is a.
A fun and odd and.
But I was gonna say, like,man, you want to make a movie, just
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put Nazis in it, like as your villain.
Like, it's hard not to.
It's hard not to go.
Right.
Because it's a universal hate.
Like you've already.
You don't even have to explain it.
It's just there.
And then you can also justmake fun of them and it's perfect.
I give you more.
That's why I love Indiana Jones.
Because when they don't havethem in there, it's not as funny.
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That's why number two was fine.
But it could have been better.
Put some Nazis in there.
They were looking for thattreasure too.
Come on.
Yeah, It's a movie called Downfall.
Downfall.
I gotta watch it because Idon't even think I've seen it.
German film.
But it's.
Yeah.
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2004.
Downfall.
Yeah.
It talks a little bit about how.
That became like 2 hours and30 minutes.
That's 2 hours and 30 minutesof German cinema.
Yeah.
Translated, that's a six hourAmerican film.
You think so?
Yeah.
When you got to read thedialogue the whole time, it sure
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the is.
It's got good reviews though.
94 from 50, 000 plus popcorn,O meter and 90 from the critics.
Yeah, geez.
Yeah, I've never seen it either.
But we know, you know,everybody knows me in subtitles.
That's a rough deal for me.
But so that is somethingbecause there's a lot of German in
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this movie.
Yes.
How did you.
How do you handle thesubtitles with it?
JJ.
Youh know, I get.
I got really frustrated at thefirst time I watched it, like, because
it starts in French andthere's a lot of French, a lot of
German, and then some reallyshitty Italian.
But, like, it's.
It's one of those things whereI got really frustrated at first
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because it was all in French,but then I was like, okay, I get
it.
And I think it's smart that hedid it because it fits what you're
doing.
But I.
I mean, I'll always getfrustrated when I have to read it.
Like, I always laugh becauseI'm like, some movies, like, people
get pissed when they're like,well, you know, it's.
Why wasn't this movie in English?
And at the same time, I'mlike, because it didn't take place
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in England.
Like, or in America or inEngland or somewhere that's English
speaking as a.
Why would they speak Englishin Germany Occupied France.
Like, it's just.
They're not going to for themost part.
Except for I'm going to switchto English because I'm assuming that
these people laying in thefloorboards don't speak it.
When he made that statement,what a filthy.
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For the fact that I haven'theard anybody means to me that they
don't speak English, I'm like,oh, you are a nasty son of a.
And you are.
To me, that was the instancewhere, like, I love the whole rat
speech.
Like, I get that.
That was clever too, and smart.
But like, when he says thatline of.
I'm assuming they don't speakEnglish because they haven't heard.
I haven't heard anything.
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So I'm going to switch back to French.
Keep up my charade.
I'm like, you are.
That's when I really fell inlove with that character being super
intelligent.
I was like, damn.
So, I mean, I dealt with itand I think partially because in.
In this case, it really addsto it in theory.
I.
But I always get annoyed whenI have to read.
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Like, because I have a hardertime processing everything all at
the same time.
When I'm reading, I'm sofocused on reading that I'm missing,
like, the visuals.
And I know it's a me problem.
But, yeah, it's not that hard.
I.
It is for me.
Like, I struggle.
My attention span is.
Can only go so far.
But, yeah, it's manageable.
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I do get annoyed at some.
I also get annoyed in the barbecause that scene's almost entirely
German in German.
And so I'm like, ugh, can wemove along here?
But that part I can get morebehind because I get at the beginning
intention kind of why they didthat, as you just talked about it
kind of showed just added tothat character.
I can.
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I Can get behind that.
But bar sim.
Like, look, you'vetransitioned back to English.
Like, we.
We know that they're speakinga different language, but where this
is also the one English movie.
Like, that's when I start toget annoyed with a little bit of
that.
Yeah.
Because the fact that you gotto go back and show, oh, they can
speak multiple.
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I, Like, I already know that.
Like, it's okay.
I don't.
I don't need that layer.
But again, that's a Tarantino thing.
Just saying, like, screw you.
I'm doing.
I want.
Yeah, but that scene alsodoesn't work quite as well if they're
not speaking German becauseit's the accent bottom.
So it's like.
But I.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, I, I understand why, butI, I just.
For me, it's a personal thing.
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It said to me, it doesn'tdetract from the film at all, except
for.
For me, because I just don'tlike it.
You know what I mean?
Like, I just get annoyed by it.
But that's a personal preference.
For sure.
For sure.
I.
Yeah, I think the middle partof this movie, from about halfway
into the bar scene to theending, when they planned.
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When they pull Aldo Rain outand they start the negotiation up
until that point between themiddle of the bar scene and that,
like, I'm.
I kind of lose a little bit interest.
Like, that part takes too longfor me in those.
And I think a lot of it has todo with the bar scene.
But I also think the lead upinto the cinema scene and then the
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cinema, the.
The playing out of everythingthat's going on in the movie theater
takes a little too long as well.
Like the whole Daniel Brule,like, the guy, like having the crush
on Shoshana cared about that.
Like, that just goes way too.
Like, there's just.
It's typical Tarantino bloat.
Like, it was just.
I get why.
Because in his mind, thatcompletes the story and keeps you
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on track.
But I.
You could have kept me ontrack without 20 minutes of that.
Like, I really believe that.
And so it's like, that's whereI get frustrated.
But then the end picks back up again.
And then I'm like, okay, we can.
Because you got Brad Pitt andwith Christoph Waltz having this,
like.
And like when he.
When he freaks out, like, Likea little kid.
Like, that's one of the mostgenius moments in this entire movie.
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Exciting.
Like.
Like that whole part, I.
I giggle.
I laughed so hard because Iwas like, that fits this character.
He's like this serious,intelligent, smart.
And he's so not worried aboutany of this that he just, like, has
this goofy kid moment that's like.
It's like a movie.
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You know what I mean?
Like, I just love that wholeaspect of it.
But it's.
There's a.
There's a slog in the middlewhere I'm like, okay, let's move
along to the good part.
And I felt that way in the theater.
I remember watching it thefirst time going, ah.
And there.
Well, there's.
This is Tarantino right here.
We got too much going on a.
That I don't care about.
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And most of that doesn't trulyadd value to the story.
I think that's my biggestproblem with the whole bar scene
as a whole, is once you getpast once it goes into, like, they
bring out that the other,like, the.
The major comes out, and he's like.
I'm like, you lost me.
Like, I just was like.
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And then it just keepsdragging on and on.
And to me, like, you get thebeginning and that whole sequence
up to the point where heswitches back to French, sets the
scene for what the wholemovie's about and this whole character
and all.
And then at the end, like, thedialogues make sense, but in the
middle, like, there was novalue add to me other than thinning
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the herd and setting up thesilly Italian scene.
These guys continuing the planfor the bar.
Like, the bar doesn't trulyadd value to the movie for me.
Most of it, anyway.
Like, I laugh at the firstpart of it, but then it just goes
on and on and on, and I'mlike, ugh.
And then, like, the wholeintroduction part of the movie theater,
when they're being ridiculouswith the Italian accents, that too.
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Like, it's just.
I'm like, okay, find a way tocut a bunch of that.
And I think this may be aperfect movie because it's just so
entertaining, but.
Well, yeah, because thesuspension of disbelief with the
Italian part, I'm like, allright, you've already proven this
guy is exceptionally smart.
And what did these peoplethink, these.
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Whoever's gonna ask, was thisdumb, that they can speak Italian?
Like, come on.
So I don't know.
I didn't need all that.
But that being said, prettydang good movie.
Yeah.
On a final note for me anyway,though, too, I love that Christoph
Walt's character is constantlyinsulting the German army in general
without, like, he calls them ahawk in that first.
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Like, they have to be somemajestic, fearsome animal.
But he basically says, yeah,but they think like the hawk, so
they're kind of stupid.
Like they don't.
You know what I mean?
Like they don't get it.
And then there's like a momentin that whole scene in the, like
where he.
It's like he lets himself say,I'm the smartest guy in the room
and I know what you're doing.
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I know what's happening.
They're all too stupid tofigure it out, so I'm gonna let them
die to whatever plan you have.
But I'm gonna then milk myability to have this be play out
to get my little piece of landin Ohio.
And so it's just like I lovethat aspect of it where he's always
constantly, like, even thescene in the.
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When he meets Shoshana againand like he's eating the, you know,
the dessert and he's stuffinghis face and he's talking.
Like he just like so confidentand he's like basically saying everybody
else around him is stupid.
Like he's too excited.
This guy's too wants his filmto be.
He's got a crush on you.
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Like, let me make sure that Iknow what's happening.
And so, yeah, I just.
I like that aspect of it whereit's like he's this standalone character
almost that knows what's goingon and then it ends up getting him
in the end.
Anyway.
It was in Ohio.
No one wants to live there.
It was the Nantucket island.
Whatever.
Big difference there.
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Big, big difference.
Boy did it.
Wasn't it something that heends up in Ohio though?
Like, wasn't the land that he.
Something had to do with Ohio?
I swear.
You'Re mixing your movies andyou're making Patriot.
That could be true.
I don't think so.
I hate the Patriot.
I hate that movie.
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I think you're mixing it up because.
I love that Maybe.
Maybe it's the general.
They give him a bunch of landin Ohio or something.
I don't know, the Ohio Valley, whatever.
Oh, he does say that.
I know the exact scene you'retalking about.
What?
Tell me more about the Ohio.
Yeah, that could be it.
Anyway, funny scenes.
Dedicate on the Patriot.
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Get out of here.
I hate that movie.
Anyway, talk about somehistorical inaccuracies.
Anyway, we won't go there.
Let's.
Let's rate this thing.
All right, Alex, you're first, buddy.
All right.
My movie.
This is tough.
That's a tough one for me torate because there is parts that
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I would definitely change.
And the kind of.
The biggest one is that it'stitled Inglorious Basterds, but the
bastards really aren't in itthat much.
Yeah.
From a few scenes here orthere, like, they're not in it.
It's a fair point.
And so it's.
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And I think I would reallyenjoy it if there was more playing
into Brad Pitt and ChristophWaltz being more antagonistic and
kind of that.
The.
The relationship from afar.
Right.
Learning about each otherbefore they actually meet in person.
Because I think you couldreally have a better theater scene
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if they've heard of each other.
You know, this is the Apache,although the Apache meets the Jew
Hunter.
Right.
And you could have a littlebit more buy into that.
Whereas now that scene is moreplayed for laughs.
Right.
We as the audience know thatChristoph Waltz's character is this
extremely intelligent individual.
The bastards don't have a clue.
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Right.
So he's messing with them to.
That entire scene.
It's played for laughs for us.
But they.
You know, to them, they'rejust meaning some, you know, a National
Socialist official.
Right.
They don't.
They don't have no care in the world.
And so I think if you hadplayed into a little bit more and
cut out the stupid.
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I don't want to say stupid,but the Shoshana part.
Right.
Because the only.
In my opinion, the reason whythat is there is to tie into the
beginning.
Sure.
And I don't need that.
I think if you play more withthe bastards going up against, you
know, the Jew Hunter fromafar, you know, almost like a chess
match where it's move andcounter move, then you have a better
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payout.
The end to where they finallyget to sit down and, you know, then
it's more of like, hey, guess what?
I beat you.
Right.
So I'm setting the terms ofhow we're gonna end the war, and
then when the, you know,switcheroo comes down, and for the
first time in the entiremovie, Christoph Waltz is no longer
in control, then it becomeseven a bigger kind of, you know,
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gotcha or type of a thing.
So, I mean, I.
That's a very long way to sayI'm gonna give it a three and a half
and I will watch it again.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
I'm gonna give it a four and a half.
And I think the only thingthat drives me crazy is the bloat
in the middle.
Like, I think if we were to cut.
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And I'm with you, like, I.
Shoshana's storyline feelslike just this thorough line that
goes through the whole movieto keep it all Tied together on some
level, but I don't know thatit's the most interesting storyline
outside of the beginning.
And then, like, I just thinkit's one of those things that help
carry the movie through andconnect the pieces.
So I think it suffers a littlebit from that.
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And then I think there's sometoo much dialogue in the middle that
slows it down for me.
But that's my only beef isthat I.
I get to a point where I'mlike, I could Skip the next 20 minutes
and just be okay, because itdoesn't house anything that really
moves the story forward for meor makes it interesting.
Like, what I want to see isthe weird and the dialogue that makes
sense versus the stuff thatjust felt like Tarantino goes, I
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think this would be cleverright here.
Right?
Like, and that's.
Or he's got a piece ofdialogue that he wrote that he wants
to play off of it, and so he'slike, I'll stuff it in the middle
of this movie, and it'll justbe to put them in a ridiculous scenario.
And so it's like, it just feltunnecessary to do.
And so, anyway.
But that.
I love this movie.
I think it's.
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It's.
In my opinion, one of the.
I think it's probably thesecond best Tarantino film to me
outside of Pulp Fiction, but I.
Yeah, I just love it.
But I think that also comesfrom Christoph Waltz and Brad Pitt.
I think they absolutely carrythis movie for sure.
But, yeah, four and a half for me.
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I.
I will definitely watch itagain when I'm in a Tarantino mood.
I'll give it a 4.
Great movie, great acting,interesting story.
I've kind of said what I.
What would have taken it tofive is being a little bit shorter.
As we talked about.
I wanted a cooler Hitler scene.
I think if it had had that, Imean, I would have been on cloud
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nine.
I think it'd have been great.
Yeah, I'll definitely watch it again.
It won't be for a whilebecause it's kind of.
It's an investment, but I lovehistory, but I love the spin that
they put on it and what almostcould have been in a different way.
So, yeah, it was.
It was a good watch becauseI'd never seen all the way through.
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Happy to have done it.
And Brad Pitt's character ismy favorite.
Aldo Rain.
Lieutenant Aldo Rain.
That's.
It's great.
I also love the intro to Stiglitz.
Like, had to have Sam Jacksonin this.
So let's.
Let's have him introduce Hugo Stiglitz.
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With that, we're in week threeof original screenplays.
And what would a month oforiginal screenplays be without at
least one Quentin Tarantino film?
So let's talk about Inglorious Bastards.
It was released August 21, 2009.
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It was written and directed byQuentin Tarantino.
Stars Brad Pitt, Eli Roth,Melanie Laurent, Diane Krueger, Christoph
Waltz, Michael Fassbender,Till Schwager, Daniel Brule and Gideon
Burkhardt.
It is about Nazi occupiedFrance during World War II.
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A plan Nazi leaders by a groupof Jewish U.
S.
Soldiers coincides with thetheater owner's vengeful plans for
the same.
Yeah, Nancy, if.
If Alec hadn't put this on thepodcast, I would have the list, because
I.
Anyway, Alec, your movie.
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You go, my friend, and then Iwill talk.
I'm a Tarantino fan, so I likethe way he writes his stories.
Right.
He takes a point in time thatdid exist, and then he changes it
to fit the story.
He wants to tell of what couldhave happened.
And I feel like that's in manyways like, almost as original as
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you can get with today's, youknow, movie, I guess is the best
way to put it, because youneed a scene or a backdrop that people
are gonna relate to and recognize.
You need to draw them in thetheater for the making the money.
So you pick a time frame wherethat'll work.
And then he just breaks everysingle rule of cinema after that
to tell the story he wants to tell.
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And he is completelyunapologetic about it.
That's fair.
So I love Tarantino because hejust kind of does.
He chooses a historicalbackdrop and then just does whatever
he wants within that story.
This is one of my favoritesbecause I do loved World War II history
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in that kind of time frame.
And the team he assembled forthis is, bar none, amazing.
Christoph Waltz is phenomenal.
And, you know, then you justthrow in Brad Pitt as Aldo the Apache,
and they.
Those two playing kind ofantagonist to each other, completely
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opposite.
That are both brilliant intheir own way.
Like, it just comes togethervery, very nicely and well done.
And I enjoy this movie quite a bit.
Yeah, I picked it, and Iwanted to give Madison something
to look forward to.
I've been kind of mean to himthe last seven or eight years.
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That's funny.
Was this his first time?
And I don't know.
I'd have to go back and lookso twin.
Quentin Tarantino is kind ofhit and miss with me, but I do enjoy
this one.
But was this the first timethat he kind of took his history,
like, actual written history,and, like, revamped it in an utterly
insane way?
Because, like, yeah, whathappens to Hitler obviously didn't
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happen, but, like, it was thisthe first time.
Because I'm trying to think ofwhat else.
Like, I don't think, like,Reservoir Dogs.
I know Pulp Fiction, but he'sobviously done it since then because
Once Upon a Time in Hollywooddid the same thing in this.
It was in the same vein and then.
But, yeah, nothing else.
This was the first one, kind of.
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Because Kill Bill didn'treally do it either.
No, yeah, yeah.
I was gonna say, like, I.
This one was interesting, and I.
Again, Quentin Tarantino ishit and miss.
Like, I think early on, like,he was one of my favorites.
Like, I love Pulp Fiction'sgreat, and I'm not a vignette kind
of guy, but, like, that oneworks for me, the way it twists and
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turns and then brings it allback at the end.
But then I really likedReservoir Dogs as well.
I.
I will say that, like, he lostme on some of, like, the middle like,
when he did the one where he.
Robert Rodriguez.
The double feature one where he.
I don't remember the one hedid, but anyway, I didn't love that
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one.
But this one, when.
When this one came out, like,I was kind of hesitant to go see
it because I was like, hehasn't done much that I've been excited
about since Pulp Fiction, butthis one just hit different.
Like.
And I'll say this has one ofthe greatest openings, in my opinion.
Like, that opening scene onthe farm and, like, with Christoph
Waltz just, like, being anutter horrifying human being, like,
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because he's just so calm andnice and polite.
And then there's that momentwhen he switches and he's telling
this guy.
We've had this entireconversation so that you have no
mistake that I know thatyou're hiding people in your floorboards.
Like, and his face changes.
Like, there's a look in his eye.
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And I was like, oh, we justwatched greatness.
And then, like, at the end, heshouts out, like, the guy's up in
the best possible way for amovie like this.
Like, and that set the tone.
And I've got some criticismsthat we'll talk about, but that I
was like, I'm gonna like thismovie for that first 30 minutes,
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regardless of the rest of it.
And then there's some othergreat parts too, but, like, geez,
that opening scene is insane.
The other scene that I didn'texpect is when he strangles the movie
actress.
I didn't think he was justgonna outright, like, go for it right
there.
Like, whoa, okay.
Like, you knew.
I mean, you knew immediately.
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Like, when they said theirItalian was like, just like, okay.
And grads.
I'm like, yeah, whoa, you're dead.
Like, how.
Yeah, you're gone.
Yeah, Gorlami.
That's.
Yes.
And to your point, like, yeah,that's one thing about Tarantino
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that I like, especially inthis movie.
Like, he.
There is no boundaries.
Like, he'll do whatever.
And again, to your point,like, to tell the story he wants
to tell, like, he'll do whatever.
Including killing off a lotof, like, big characters died.
Like, you're like, what?
Because for me, I'd never seenthis movie all the way through.
(08:05):
I realized as I watched, I waslike, oh, my gosh, I'd never.
I'd seen enough of it, but Ihadn't seen all the way through.
And I would.
There was a couple times,like, I can't believe they just died.
Like, that's a very well knownactress or actor.
Like, they're gone.
Okay, well, all right.
I guess no one's safe fromdying in this movie.
Potentially the only thingthat got me.
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And I knew halfway there,like, I was like, I don't think this
scene is in this movie.
I wanted the, I think it's an.
Is it in Valkyrie with theHitler scene where he like, he freaks
out.
That whole speech, thatmonologue, he's like.
And he's like freaking out.
The one that they meme on allthe different, like, yeah, that one
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naked about everything.
That's actually a, that's notValkyrie either.
I don't think I'm trying toremember what.
I need to go watch that moviejust so I can appreciate that again.
I wanted that to be in thismovie because to me, that was the
only thing I was like, Ineeded some crazy Hitler scene.
Like, I needed him to like,just lose his marbles.
I think they missed out onthat, to be honest.
I, I, I feel like that wouldhave fit really well in this movie
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and could have been awesome,but they never gave me that.
I really wanted that, like,really, really, really bad.
Besides that, the, like,opening scene, awesome acting is
awesome.
Things are satirical and overthe top.
The thing with Tarantinomovies that get me sometimes is the
pace.
Like, I have to like, you gotto, you got to take the, the good
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and the bad with that, like, Iknow going in, I'm like, okay, like
there's, it's going to bedialogue heavy.
Thankfully, the dialogue isusually supreme, but at times it's
still like it can, it can takea little bit of its toll on you where
like another director couldgive you dialogue, but supplement
it with a little bit more eyecatchy action that like, helps you
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through, but that's not Tarantino's.
And like, I'm not here to saydoesn't need to do that, but I think
at times this is the type ofmovie, like, do I want to go watching
Glorious Basterds tomorrow ortwo weeks from now or a month from
now?
Yeah, like, probably not.
But when I do re watch itagain, there's great scenes, it's
interesting, it's funny at times.
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And I'll like be like, oh man,that's great movie.
But it, it does give me as aviewer some fatigue at times, but
I don't think it's, it's agreat movie.
Yeah, I think one of mybiggest gripes with Tarantino in
general is he gets bloated insome of it, like, because it's so
dialogue heavy.
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Two and a half hours is longerthan this movie needs to be.
And I'm.
I've always said two hours isthe sweet spot for me most of the
time, as long as it'sentertaining and interesting.
But, like, even this one, Ithink 2 hours and 15 minutes probably
could have been okay.
I think there's an argumentfor a two hour version of this movie,
but I think two hours andfifteen makes a lot of sense because
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there is a lot of dialogue inthis one specifically, even more
so than, I think a lot of hisothers that are very pertinent.
And I think it's.
The dialogue is veryinteresting in this movie.
Especially like that bar scene.
First of all, the scene beforeit where Fassbender and Pit are having
it in a bar or in a basement.
Like, that whole back andforth about where he says in a basement
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like six times, like, makes melaugh because you know this is going
to be a show because he's.
They spend so much timeleading into it with the basement
argument.
The instant you walk downthere and there's all these German
soldiers and you can just seethey're like, God damn it.
And so, like, it's just great.
But I think that's one thingand, and even this one suffers a
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little bit from the.
I call it the Tarantino bloatbecause he.
The one thing about him is he'll.
He's gonna do whatever the.
He wants.
He's gonna make his movie,which I respect, but sometimes he
gets a little this.
It's like sometimes it doesn'tknow when to let it go because, like,
the bar scene was intriguing,but then they play the game and it's
like, man, you, like, maybeyou could have ended like four minutes
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sooner than that because youstill drove home with a really clever,
witty, catchy dialogue.
But do you always just go onestep too far?
Like the opening scene, did it go.
Was it long?
Sure.
But that to me set up whatthat character was and how he was
so smart.
You knew he was going to catchpeople like that needed it.
But like the, the Naziofficer, like, hey, like, sure, but
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do I care about him as much asI care as some of these other people
know?
And I think that's just wheremaybe like someone that told Tarantino
no, which nobody exists,that's going to do that with his
film.
But if he had someone thatcould like do that in his corner,
saving him from himself,that's all I would say.
But at the same time, I mean,what a.
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What a great.
Pretty wild.
Yeah, I followed why he did that.
Even Though I don't reallylike it so much.
But it's all leading up tothat stupid three joke, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so I get.
I get where he was going.
But, yeah, it's.
It's too much because you cando that much quicker.
Yeah.
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The extra dialogue, right.
Like, I could have done lesswith Gary and Gibbles and, you know,
the Frederick Zoller.
Right.
But give.
Give me two and a half hoursof Christoph Waltz.
Yeah.
His processes.
Because he could go on a 5, 10minute monologue, and it's the most
enrapting part of the film.
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Oh, yeah.
Versus, you know, you have allthis extra going in that you're like.
You know, you mentioned it.
The Tarantino bloat, whereit's like, okay, you could have sped
this up a bit, but I know whyyou did it.
But you didn't have to, right?
You're.
You're now well known enough.
Just go ahead and get to the point.
Yeah, yeah.
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1.
He was relatively unknown atthis point too, wasn't he?
I mean, at least in American circles.
Like, yeah, he's been aroundin Germany for a long time, but I
don't think.
Yeah, because he did, like, a.
Pretty sure he did a Germanversion of the Orient Express, which
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is weird.
But, yeah.
Anyway, like, he wasrelatively unknown, but I could watch
anything that he's in.
Christoph Waltz, sign me up.
Like, I'll watch it just towatch him.
And that opening scenestarted, but then I.
I don't know.
It's tough, too, because theone that really got me the most in
this was Brad Pitt.
Like, when he first pops up inthat second act like, scene with
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as freaking Aldo Rain.
Like, that whole speech to the soldiers.
Like, I.
The debit part.
Like, Casey.
Okay, so Casey had never seenthis movie, and she's not a Tarantino
fan, but, like, she watcheduntil she fell asleep about halfway
through, which I was like,hey, that says something too.
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But, like, we're.
So we're watching this.
And.
And when he's like, you takeon debit?
And it's.
She's like, did he.
Did he just say debit insteadof debt?
I'm like, yep.
She goes, why does that makeso much sense for this character?
I'm like, because it works.
Like, the whole.
Like.
But seeing Brad Pitt as thatcharacter, like, I just love.
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Like, it's just anothertestament to him, like, where he
can.
It's kind of a chameleon.
Like, he can be pretty muchany act, any character.
But, like, I love him as this character.
Too.
Like, his speech every time he.
This might be my masterpiece.
Like, every.
And, like, the whole.
Are you gonna take that Naziuniform off?
Like.
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Like, I.
Yeah, there is those two for me.
Just absolute scene stealers.
Like, this movie would not begood without Christoph Waltz and
Brad Pitt in it.
Like, it would be manageable,but it wouldn't be good.
Like, I want to watch thosetwo idiots go on a road trip together.
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Like, dude, just the.
Yeah, that's the sheer beautyof the dialogue with those two.
And then for them to be.
And you get.
It's kind of an interestingthing because you watch both of them
have these solitary sceneswhere they're just absolutely acting
the.
Out of it.
And then when they finally getto come together at the end during
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the negotiation scene orwhatever, like, so good.
Just so good.
Well, I don't need him.
Ah, I'm gonna get my ass chewed.
Burst.
I've been chewed out before.
I've been chewed out before.
I might get chewed out, butI'm gonna.
Chewed out before.
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Yeah, Like, I just.
That whole.
I love it.
The dynamic between those two.
They.
Yeah, there's a reasonTarantino keeps pulling two of them
up, since it is too, because,yeah, they're.
They're great in his movies,but I don't know.
And this is another one that's like.
It's just so original becauseit shocked me the first time I watched
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it.
It, like, the whole movietheater scene, like, when they just
start murking everybody and,like, they make Swiss cheese out
of Hitler, I'm like, whoa,what is going on right now?
Like, I was like, I don'tremember that.
In eighth grade history.
Wait, what?
I was like, that's not howthat worked.
I was like.
And I gu.
Nobody really knows.
And so at least not thatthey've told everybody in public.
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So it's like, it could beanything that happened to him.
You know what I mean?
But at the same time, it'sjust like, that's an interesting
way to play this whole thing out.
And, like.
Yeah, but I.
Yeah, that was another onethat I was just like, okay, didn't
see that coming.
But that was great.
But I do love theridiculousness of the whole movie
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theater thing, too.
Like, with the Italian accentsand, like, try to.
Like, it just is.
You could tell they.
Without Fazbender.
They're just so.
And it's just so great.
But they.
Because they just like, Idon't care.
We're gonna do it anyway.
We'll make it work.
Yeah, we'll figure it Out.
No, I mean, that's.
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The movie is so over the top.
Because in real life, if youknew you spoke that little Italian,
you're not doing that.
Never.
Not ever.
Yeah, because if the actress,whatever her, she'd be like, well,
speak a little Italian to me.
And that's how he.
She'd be like, no.
And her cast, like, what didthey cast her in?
A heel?
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Like, like, what?
Like, what was that about?
So ridiculous.
I swear, that's a Tarantinoshot at Hollywood.
Like, that's him with feet.
Yeah, him and him and Hollywood.
And, like, you know, the factthat somebody.
We would be vain enough tohave them cast with their heel on,
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like, could see him doingthat, too.
Just because then, you know,they're not limping down the hot.
The thing.
They're walking because it'sthe same height.
It's just.
I don't know.
Tarantino's a prick that way.
Like, there's a reason he does everything.
You just have to figure it out.
But, yeah, I'm with you.
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Like, that's a wild scene, butit's still funny as hell, too.
Like, I think that's the partthat I love the most about it is,
like, it's so ridiculous, andyet I love it.
And normally I'm like, come on.
And there's a part of methat's like, that's just not gonna
happen to Madsen's point.
But I laugh my ass off whenthey're just like.
And they're being all serious, too.
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Like, but he can't.
It's just great.
It's great.
Yeah.
I did.
Like, they kind of mixed alittle bit of the ridiculous audacity
with some of the common sense.
Like, you have the one guy.
When they're discussing whospeaks the most Italian, it's like.
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And, Donnie, you speak third best.
And it's like, I don't speak Italian.
And so, like, that's exactlywhat Matthew was kind of saying.
Like, no, we don't speak Italian.
But then you just have theaudacity, you know, the just out
there kind of brazenness whereit's like, yeah, that's what I said.
Third best.
Just keep your mouth shut.
We'll make it through all day.
Yeah, but you have this.
You have a nice little mixthrown in there of that common sense
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to where, like, okay, yeah,that, that.
Like, this.
This isn't gonna work.
But then he just immediatelysquashes it with, yeah, just shut
up and it'll be fine.
Like, nobody asked for your opinion.
Yeah, it's great.
One Thing I appreciatewatching this is I too, like Alec
and maybe, like a lot ofpeople, I love World War II history,
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and I've watched a lot ofstuff over the past, like in 2024,
about document is a World WarII with Churchill and Hitler and
especially Hitler's inner circle.
So in this movie, when itcalls out, like, Guring and Goebbels
and shoot, I should remember acouple of the other people's names,
but they all, like, kind oflooked like them.
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And I was like, oh, man.
I felt more realistic.
I know.
I know who these people are.
I know why Go roll.
Or Goebbels would care aboutthis film being so well received
and, like, having the approvalfrom Hitler and, like, caring so
much about where this premiereis, because he literally did care
about all that stuff very deeply.
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And they all were looking forways to impress Hitler.
So I was like, as brazen andweird as it sounds, like this would
have been like, a real, like,feasible thing that could have gone
on.
They.
Tarantino just obviouslyramped up the satire, but I was like,
yeah, it's probably whathappened May.
They probably did have some,like, promotional movie premiere.
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And, yeah, having a supersoldier that literally couldn't miss
two.
Two bullets to the kneecaps,one to the chest, and, like, unlimited
ammo killed, like, 60 Britishand American soldiers.
Like, no problem.
Like, oh, yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
The serious propaganda machinethat was churning out at that time
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from that side.
Yeah, it's.
I appreciate that, too.
And the fact that.
Look, I love the scene, too,where they are introducing the bastards
from the other side and, like,cut into that.
Almost what you're lookingfor, where the Hitler character,
nine, nine, nine, nine, like,and he's telling him, no, we're gonna
keep this quiet.
And then he's like, send inthe fact we're not even gonna call
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him the bear too.
Anymore.
Like, and then, like, theybring him in and, like, I like that
scene of, like, how it'splayed of Hitler trying to mitigate
the problems that this squadis causing.
Like, and you.
No, you're not to tell anyonethat that's what happened.
I just wanted to freak out more.
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Like, I thought that wasperfectly teed up.
Because what we know aboutHaley, he had a temper.
I was like, man, he could havejust blown a gasket right here.
It was everything you just said.
It was funny and clever.
I was like, he could.
I would have taken two moreminutes of explosive dialogue.
Yeah, no, I'm with you.
That's one of the funniestmeme like when people make videos
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of that clip that you'retalking about, like about the million
different things that Hitlercould be screaming and yelling about,
like he does in that movie.
And I wish.
What movie is that from?
Because that scene, I mean, ismeme like lore.
Like you can put almostanything superimposed on that.
And it's funny.
Oh yeah.
I'm pretty sure I've seen onesabout Ohio State football on there.
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Like, I mean, it's like youcan literally plug in anything and
it's.
Yeah, it's funny.
I don't know what movie.
I'll have to look it up.
We'll have to do.
I gotta look that up too.
Because that's a.
I wanted that to be in this.
But yeah, I mean it's.
This is a.
A fun and odd and.
But I was gonna say, like,man, you want to make a movie, just
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put Nazis in it, like as your villain.
Like, it's hard not to.
It's hard not to go.
Right.
Because it's a universal hate.
Like you've already.
You don't even have to explain it.
It's just there.
And then you can also justmake fun of them and it's perfect.
I give you more.
That's why I love Indiana Jones.
Because when they don't havethem in there, it's not as funny.
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That's why number two was fine.
But it could have been better.
Put some Nazis in there.
They were looking for thattreasure too.
Come on.
Yeah, It's a movie called Downfall.
Downfall.
I gotta watch it because Idon't even think I've seen it.
German film.
But it's.
Yeah.
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2004.
Downfall.
Yeah.
It talks a little bit about how.
That became like 2 hours and30 minutes.
That's 2 hours and 30 minutesof German cinema.
Yeah.
Translated, that's a six hourAmerican film.
You think so?
Yeah.
When you got to read thedialogue the whole time, it sure
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the is.
It's got good reviews though.
94 from 50, 000 plus popcorn,O meter and 90 from the critics.
Yeah, geez.
Yeah, I've never seen it either.
But we know, you know,everybody knows me in subtitles.
That's a rough deal for me.
But so that is somethingbecause there's a lot of German in
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this movie.
Yes.
How did you.
How do you handle thesubtitles with it?
JJ.
Youh know, I get.
I got really frustrated at thefirst time I watched it, like, because
it starts in French andthere's a lot of French, a lot of
German, and then some reallyshitty Italian.
But, like, it's.
It's one of those things whereI got really frustrated at first
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because it was all in French,but then I was like, okay, I get
it.
And I think it's smart that hedid it because it fits what you're
doing.
But I.
I mean, I'll always getfrustrated when I have to read it.
Like, I always laugh becauseI'm like, some movies, like, people
get pissed when they're like,well, you know, it's.
Why wasn't this movie in English?
And at the same time, I'mlike, because it didn't take place
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in England.
Like, or in America or inEngland or somewhere that's English
speaking as a.
Why would they speak Englishin Germany Occupied France.
Like, it's just.
They're not going to for themost part.
Except for I'm going to switchto English because I'm assuming that
these people laying in thefloorboards don't speak it.
When he made that statement,what a filthy.
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For the fact that I haven'theard anybody means to me that they
don't speak English, I'm like,oh, you are a nasty son of a.
And you are.
To me, that was the instancewhere, like, I love the whole rat
speech.
Like, I get that.
That was clever too, and smart.
But like, when he says thatline of.
I'm assuming they don't speakEnglish because they haven't heard.
I haven't heard anything.
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So I'm going to switch back to French.
Keep up my charade.
I'm like, you are.
That's when I really fell inlove with that character being super
intelligent.
I was like, damn.
So, I mean, I dealt with itand I think partially because in.
In this case, it really addsto it in theory.
I.
But I always get annoyed whenI have to read.
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Like, because I have a hardertime processing everything all at
the same time.
When I'm reading, I'm sofocused on reading that I'm missing,
like, the visuals.
And I know it's a me problem.
But, yeah, it's not that hard.
I.
It is for me.
Like, I struggle.
My attention span is.
Can only go so far.
But, yeah, it's manageable.
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I do get annoyed at some.
I also get annoyed in the barbecause that scene's almost entirely
German in German.
And so I'm like, ugh, can wemove along here?
But that part I can get morebehind because I get at the beginning
intention kind of why they didthat, as you just talked about it
kind of showed just added tothat character.
I can.
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I Can get behind that.
But bar sim.
Like, look, you'vetransitioned back to English.
Like, we.
We know that they're speakinga different language, but where this
is also the one English movie.
Like, that's when I start toget annoyed with a little bit of
that.
Yeah.
Because the fact that you gotto go back and show, oh, they can
speak multiple.
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I, Like, I already know that.
Like, it's okay.
I don't.
I don't need that layer.
But again, that's a Tarantino thing.
Just saying, like, screw you.
I'm doing.
I want.
Yeah, but that scene alsodoesn't work quite as well if they're
not speaking German becauseit's the accent bottom.
So it's like.
But I.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, I, I understand why, butI, I just.
For me, it's a personal thing.
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It said to me, it doesn'tdetract from the film at all, except
for.
For me, because I just don'tlike it.
You know what I mean?
Like, I just get annoyed by it.
But that's a personal preference.
For sure.
For sure.
I.
Yeah, I think the middle partof this movie, from about halfway
into the bar scene to theending, when they planned.
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When they pull Aldo Rain outand they start the negotiation up
until that point between themiddle of the bar scene and that,
like, I'm.
I kind of lose a little bit interest.
Like, that part takes too longfor me in those.
And I think a lot of it has todo with the bar scene.
But I also think the lead upinto the cinema scene and then the
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cinema, the.
The playing out of everythingthat's going on in the movie theater
takes a little too long as well.
Like the whole Daniel Brule,like, the guy, like having the crush
on Shoshana cared about that.
Like, that just goes way too.
Like, there's just.
It's typical Tarantino bloat.
Like, it was just.
I get why.
Because in his mind, thatcompletes the story and keeps you
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on track.
But I.
You could have kept me ontrack without 20 minutes of that.
Like, I really believe that.
And so it's like, that's whereI get frustrated.
But then the end picks back up again.
And then I'm like, okay, we can.
Because you got Brad Pitt andwith Christoph Waltz having this,
like.
And like when he.
When he freaks out, like, Likea little kid.
Like, that's one of the mostgenius moments in this entire movie.
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Exciting.
Like.
Like that whole part, I.
I giggle.
I laughed so hard because Iwas like, that fits this character.
He's like this serious,intelligent, smart.
And he's so not worried aboutany of this that he just, like, has
this goofy kid moment that's like.
It's like a movie.
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You know what I mean?
Like, I just love that wholeaspect of it.
But it's.
There's a.
There's a slog in the middlewhere I'm like, okay, let's move
along to the good part.
And I felt that way in the theater.
I remember watching it thefirst time going, ah.
And there.
Well, there's.
This is Tarantino right here.
We got too much going on a.
That I don't care about.
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And most of that doesn't trulyadd value to the story.
I think that's my biggestproblem with the whole bar scene
as a whole, is once you getpast once it goes into, like, they
bring out that the other,like, the.
The major comes out, and he's like.
I'm like, you lost me.
Like, I just was like.
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And then it just keepsdragging on and on.
And to me, like, you get thebeginning and that whole sequence
up to the point where heswitches back to French, sets the
scene for what the wholemovie's about and this whole character
and all.
And then at the end, like, thedialogues make sense, but in the
middle, like, there was novalue add to me other than thinning
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the herd and setting up thesilly Italian scene.
These guys continuing the planfor the bar.
Like, the bar doesn't trulyadd value to the movie for me.
Most of it, anyway.
Like, I laugh at the firstpart of it, but then it just goes
on and on and on, and I'mlike, ugh.
And then, like, the wholeintroduction part of the movie theater,
when they're being ridiculouswith the Italian accents, that too.
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Like, it's just.
I'm like, okay, find a way tocut a bunch of that.
And I think this may be aperfect movie because it's just so
entertaining, but.
Well, yeah, because thesuspension of disbelief with the
Italian part, I'm like, allright, you've already proven this
guy is exceptionally smart.
And what did these peoplethink, these.
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Whoever's gonna ask, was thisdumb, that they can speak Italian?
Like, come on.
So I don't know.
I didn't need all that.
But that being said, prettydang good movie.
Yeah.
On a final note for me anyway,though, too, I love that Christoph
Walt's character is constantlyinsulting the German army in general
without, like, he calls them ahawk in that first.
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Like, they have to be somemajestic, fearsome animal.
But he basically says, yeah,but they think like the hawk, so
they're kind of stupid.
Like they don't.
You know what I mean?
Like they don't get it.
And then there's like a momentin that whole scene in the, like
where he.
It's like he lets himself say,I'm the smartest guy in the room
and I know what you're doing.
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I know what's happening.
They're all too stupid tofigure it out, so I'm gonna let them
die to whatever plan you have.
But I'm gonna then milk myability to have this be play out
to get my little piece of landin Ohio.
And so it's just like I lovethat aspect of it where he's always
constantly, like, even thescene in the.
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When he meets Shoshana againand like he's eating the, you know,
the dessert and he's stuffinghis face and he's talking.
Like he just like so confidentand he's like basically saying everybody
else around him is stupid.
Like he's too excited.
This guy's too wants his filmto be.
He's got a crush on you.
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Like, let me make sure that Iknow what's happening.
And so, yeah, I just.
I like that aspect of it whereit's like he's this standalone character
almost that knows what's goingon and then it ends up getting him
in the end.
Anyway.
It was in Ohio.
No one wants to live there.
It was the Nantucket island.
Whatever.
Big difference there.
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Big, big difference.
Boy did it.
Wasn't it something that heends up in Ohio though?
Like, wasn't the land that he.
Something had to do with Ohio?
I swear.
You'Re mixing your movies andyou're making Patriot.
That could be true.
I don't think so.
I hate the Patriot.
I hate that movie.
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I think you're mixing it up because.
I love that Maybe.
Maybe it's the general.
They give him a bunch of landin Ohio or something.
I don't know, the Ohio Valley, whatever.
Oh, he does say that.
I know the exact scene you'retalking about.
What?
Tell me more about the Ohio.
Yeah, that could be it.
Anyway, funny scenes.
Dedicate on the Patriot.
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Get out of here.
I hate that movie.
Anyway, talk about somehistorical inaccuracies.
Anyway, we won't go there.
Let's.
Let's rate this thing.
All right, Alex, you're first, buddy.
All right.
My movie.
This is tough.
That's a tough one for me torate because there is parts that
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I would definitely change.
And the kind of.
The biggest one is that it'stitled Inglorious Basterds, but the
bastards really aren't in itthat much.
Yeah.
From a few scenes here orthere, like, they're not in it.
It's a fair point.
And so it's.
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And I think I would reallyenjoy it if there was more playing
into Brad Pitt and ChristophWaltz being more antagonistic and
kind of that.
The.
The relationship from afar.
Right.
Learning about each otherbefore they actually meet in person.
Because I think you couldreally have a better theater scene
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if they've heard of each other.
You know, this is the Apache,although the Apache meets the Jew
Hunter.
Right.
And you could have a littlebit more buy into that.
Whereas now that scene is moreplayed for laughs.
Right.
We as the audience know thatChristoph Waltz's character is this
extremely intelligent individual.
The bastards don't have a clue.
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Right.
So he's messing with them to.
That entire scene.
It's played for laughs for us.
But they.
You know, to them, they'rejust meaning some, you know, a National
Socialist official.
Right.
They don't.
They don't have no care in the world.
And so I think if you hadplayed into a little bit more and
cut out the stupid.
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I don't want to say stupid,but the Shoshana part.
Right.
Because the only.
In my opinion, the reason whythat is there is to tie into the
beginning.
Sure.
And I don't need that.
I think if you play more withthe bastards going up against, you
know, the Jew Hunter fromafar, you know, almost like a chess
match where it's move andcounter move, then you have a better
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payout.
The end to where they finallyget to sit down and, you know, then
it's more of like, hey, guess what?
I beat you.
Right.
So I'm setting the terms ofhow we're gonna end the war, and
then when the, you know,switcheroo comes down, and for the
first time in the entiremovie, Christoph Waltz is no longer
in control, then it becomeseven a bigger kind of, you know,
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gotcha or type of a thing.
So, I mean, I.
That's a very long way to sayI'm gonna give it a three and a half
and I will watch it again.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
I'm gonna give it a four and a half.
And I think the only thingthat drives me crazy is the bloat
in the middle.
Like, I think if we were to cut.
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And I'm with you, like, I.
Shoshana's storyline feelslike just this thorough line that
goes through the whole movieto keep it all Tied together on some
level, but I don't know thatit's the most interesting storyline
outside of the beginning.
And then, like, I just thinkit's one of those things that help
carry the movie through andconnect the pieces.
So I think it suffers a littlebit from that.
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And then I think there's sometoo much dialogue in the middle that
slows it down for me.
But that's my only beef isthat I.
I get to a point where I'mlike, I could Skip the next 20 minutes
and just be okay, because itdoesn't house anything that really
moves the story forward for meor makes it interesting.
Like, what I want to see isthe weird and the dialogue that makes
sense versus the stuff thatjust felt like Tarantino goes, I
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think this would be cleverright here.
Right?
Like, and that's.
Or he's got a piece ofdialogue that he wrote that he wants
to play off of it, and so he'slike, I'll stuff it in the middle
of this movie, and it'll justbe to put them in a ridiculous scenario.
And so it's like, it just feltunnecessary to do.
And so, anyway.
But that.
I love this movie.
I think it's.
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It's.
In my opinion, one of the.
I think it's probably thesecond best Tarantino film to me
outside of Pulp Fiction, but I.
Yeah, I just love it.
But I think that also comesfrom Christoph Waltz and Brad Pitt.
I think they absolutely carrythis movie for sure.
But, yeah, four and a half for me.
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I.
I will definitely watch itagain when I'm in a Tarantino mood.
I'll give it a 4.
Great movie, great acting,interesting story.
I've kind of said what I.
What would have taken it tofive is being a little bit shorter.
As we talked about.
I wanted a cooler Hitler scene.
I think if it had had that, Imean, I would have been on cloud
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nine.
I think it'd have been great.
Yeah, I'll definitely watch it again.
It won't be for a whilebecause it's kind of.
It's an investment, but I lovehistory, but I love the spin that
they put on it and what almostcould have been in a different way.
So, yeah, it was.
It was a good watch becauseI'd never seen all the way through.
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Happy to have done it.
And Brad Pitt's character ismy favorite.
Aldo Rain.
Lieutenant Aldo Rain.
That's.
It's great.
I also love the intro to Stiglitz.
Like, had to have Sam Jacksonin this.
So let's.
Let's have him introduce Hugo Stiglitz.
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Anyway.
All right.
I like tell everybody wherethey can find us.
Happy to thank you for tuninginto our review of Inglorious Basterds.
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nearly over with our original screenplays.
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Maharaja of mash A jj yes sir.
Thanks my friend.
Yeah, one week left inoriginal screenplays and then we
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