October 6, 2025 • 31 mins
This episode delves into the cinematic exploration of the film "Say Anything," a work that has garnered both acclaim and critique over the years. We engage in a rigorous examination of the film's narrative, particularly highlighting its central theme: the juxtaposition of romantic idealism against the backdrop of familial dysfunction. Our discourse reflects a spectrum of perspectives, as we navigate the intricate dynamics between the characters portrayed by John Cusack and Ione Skye. While some of us articulate a profound disdain for the film's perceived shortcomings, others find merit in its exploration of youthful aspiration and emotional complexity. Ultimately, we endeavor to dissect the film's cultural legacy and its standing within the pantheon of 1980s cinema, inviting our listeners to reflect on their own interpretations of this iconic piece of film history.
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JJ was in the chicken suit.
You.
You.
You know me.
I was never a key master.
I was the dude that was passedout under the coffee table with popcorn
on his face.
Don't get that twisted.
Nobody was trusting me withtheir keys and staying sober all
night.
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Welcome to the what's upPodcast, where we fashion ourselves
cinematic judge and jury.
My name is J.J. crowder.
I'm here with my co hosts,Mattson Heiner.
Better Red than Dead, and Alec Burch.
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We're into a new month.
It's the month of October.
We let Alec off the hook alittle bit because it's not Halloween.
Yes.
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Yeah, I was like, we up.
But that's okay.
I kind of got him in the lastmovie if he hasn't watched it already.
Have you watched us?
No.
Yeah, but it's not that bad.
But it could have been wayworse, especially with like.
Like weapons out right now.
We up.
But we also might have gottenMatson divorced some of that.
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So.
Yeah.
So anyway, October.
We're doing John Cusack October.
Again, no alliteration.
I'm sad, but that's okay.
We're spoiled and we didn't appreciate.
Yeah, I know, right?
The first month.
It'll never be as good, butwe're kicking it off with the classic
say anything.
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It was released April 14, 1989.
It was written by and directedby Cameron Crowe.
Stars John Cusack, Ione Sky,John Mahoney, Lily Taylor, Amy Brooks,
Pamela Adlon, Jason Gould,Lauren Dean, Polly Platt, Jeremy
Piven, and Glenn Walker Harris Jr.
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It is about a nobleunderachiever and a beautiful, valid
valedictorian.
Fall in love in the summerbefore she goes off to college.
That's a weak sauce synopsis,but sure, I guess it captures the.
The big story beats Alec.
This was your pick.
Why'd you pick this one?
Man, this movie gets far toomuch credit.
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Ah.
As it is.
It is.
It is not anywhere near a goodmovie, let alone in like any conversation
for being the best movie ever.
But there's one scene in it,everybody knows the scene and it's
giving it like cult status orjust classic status.
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And it gives the movie a free pass.
I hate this movie.
Really with a passion.
Really, really.
It gives way too much credit.
It is not, it's not good.
So of course I put it in thepodcast fair.
That's a.
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As a resident, man of the people.
Just so you know, if there's amovie I don't like, we're probably
not gonna watch it.
I'll save you all the pain.
So as we know, Alex, a little twisted.
Makes sense.
Twisted.
Interesting.
So I'm like one against two onthis one.
Is that what I'm hearing?
I think Max.
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Oh, I, I.
No, I'm definitely notstrongly as opinion as Alec.
Like I do.
I prefer another movie we'regoing to review over this as a better
version of this movie.
Being Better Off Dead.
That feels a lot like it.
But that movie just did itbetter and probably.
But I'd never seen sayanything until I've seen it.
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I remember I seen on TV thaticonic scene we'll talk about.
But for a second I was like,wait, is this a movie that I know
I've seen being better off?
Then I was like, no, it's not.
But it has like shades ofrandomness and weirdness that fit.
You could have just take someof the scenes in this movie and put
in better option like allright, well, probably fit.
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I didn't mind it.
I didn't like love it.
But it was entertaining atmore than a few spots and I've seen
way, way, way, way, way worsethings in this movie.
Just a kind of a.
It's an odd movie.
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It is a very odd movie.
And I won't say that Icompletely 100 disagree with Alec
in that it is, it is.
It doesn't deserve the statusthat it garners.
Right.
And I think there's a couplethings for that.
One, John Cusack when he wasthis young was like up and coming
until he did a couple ofmovies later that kind of made his
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career really weird.
One of which has already beenmentioned with Better Off Dead.
Like what a weird ass movie.
But anyway, the other piecethat I don't.
It is all based on one real scene.
Right?
Like and it's a throwawayscene if you really get into it because
there's nothing even.
There's no value add to themovie other than it's Cool.
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Seeing him hold the boomboxand poor John Cusack struggling to
hold that some up because thatwas a big ugly bastard, that thing.
And.
And as somebody that grew upin this time frame, like every kid
my age has tried this andwe're like, that.
That thing's heavy.
But I. I do like parts of thismovie, like, beyond just what makes
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it famous, like, I think it'sa very weird movie and there's some
really whiplashy parts whereyou're like, wait, what the fuck
am I watching?
But what I really like is likethe last 30 minutes from the.
The iconic stereo holding scene.
And after.
I really like this movie.
I think it's got a veryinteresting story that they went
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away from because they weretrying to make this more of a happy
ish movie, right?
And silly in a lot of places.
But, like, the idea of this.
This goofy kid that's got arough life on the surface, right,
Chasing after thisvaledictorian that's got this, like,
perfect, you know, pampered life.
And the fact that when youlook at it deep in.
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Look at each life deep intothe story, like, it's the exact opposite.
John Cusack's character's gotthis really, what looks like on the
outside, a tough life, tougherlife anyway, right?
But at the end of the day, hislife's pretty good.
He's got a support system.
He's got people that careabout him, people that want him to
succeed and are there for himto support him.
And then you got this girlthat's smart and got money and all
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this.
And on the surface, looks likeher life's great.
Turns out her dad's a crook,albeit a white collar criminal, but
still like a pretty gnarlycriminal too, because he's stealing
from old people.
Like, it's wild.
And so like that juxtapositionof these two different stories, but
we don't get into that.
Like, you get little hints ofit of, you know, that they're investigating
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her dad, whatever, throughoutthe movie, but you don't actually
get into the meat of that andhow it impacts these two human beings
and the decisions they makeuntil after they break up.
And he does this, you know,the in your eyes moment and like.
And I'm like, I would love tohave had that been more of a thing
throughout it.
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I didn't even need the dadtrying to get him to break up.
Like, I think it would havemade more sense if they had fought
over the fact that they hadsuch wildly different lives versus
dad's Pressuring me to go toschool without a boyfriend.
Like, I hate that part of thestory, but everything surrounding
it, I'm like, I think it's avery interesting study in human nature
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and how a lot of timesopposites attract in love.
Right.
Especially, like socialstatus, things like that.
Like, you see a lot of that inhigh school and.
And young love, if you will, to.
Not to coin a cheesy phrase, but.
And then this just uglinessthat's hiding in their lives or what
seemingly wasn't a great life,but they have a lot of what you could
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ask for from like an emotionalor support, you know, specific realm.
Anyway, I just think it's veryinteresting, but it's not accomplished.
And you.
Like, I have no idea what theI'm watching until that moment when
you're like, oh, wait, there'ssome serious going on.
Let's just stop.
You.
Like, I never.
My mind never even got thatserious because this movie didn't
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help me get to that pointbecause it was just weird.
Through a lot of it.
What I'm really wanting toknow, and I think what America wants
to know is were these partiesthat the party that they displayed
in this movie.
Jj, were you a key master at aparty once upon a time?
JJ was in the chicken suit.
You.
You.
You know me, I was never a key master.
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I was the dude that was passedout under the coffee table with popcorn
on his face.
Don't get that twisted.
Nobody was trusting me withtheir keys and staying sober.
That seems so funny to me.
When she shows up.
I remember turning the tails.
Like, she clearly hasn'treally been to any party because
she is dressed out to, like,then she's going to homecoming or
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something right now.
And he's in like, his was thismovie made in the 80s, early 90s.
80s.
80S.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's like his 80s vibes withhis trench coat things.
Got his John Bender coat on.
Yeah.
And which probably fit for thetimes, but I was like, man, they
could be more polar opposite.
And showing up to this partyand every.
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You can.
It's just funny to see.
He was clearly like in withthat crowd.
And she was quickly like, thehell did I get myself into?
Like, I gotta get out of here.
And then she's on the phonewith her dad.
You're like, girl, this is weird.
That whole scene just made mechuckle because there was just such
random bits.
And I was like.
That was indicative of thiswhole movie.
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There was just a lot of weirdthings that they put in front of
you.
And most of the time, I washere for it.
I was like, all right, this isnot making a whole ton of sense.
There's a narrative underneathit that these two people are gonna
end up together.
But in what world does thisactually happen?
Probably never in reality, butI was entertained and I sure loved
that party scene.
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There's multiple things that.
That made me laugh.
Like the guy at the end, I wasso drunk.
He was like, hyper Jeremy Piven.
Dude, love, Jerry.
You can't have a John Cusackfilm without Jeremy Piven.
That guy made me laugh.
But like, this movie as well,like John Cusack, he looked like.
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I mean, he kind of looked likehe was in high school in this movie.
He might have been closeenough in age, but shoot.
Dude.
He was not a good looking dudeat that point.
Not that he ever really got tobe one.
But he had, like, no chin,like, completely baby face, pasty
white.
I was like, bro, ain't no wayshe's showing up with you because
you'd, like, fade away intothe background because you look like
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a ghost.
Jesus.
This guy.
So judgmental.
I mean, I could say it.
I'm pasty white myself.
I mean, we just.
We game.
Recognized game.
There you go.
There you go.
So funny.
So funny.
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Yeah, listen.
No, go ahead, Alex.
I was gonna say.
So most of my hate stems fromthis one stupid scene because it's
a scene that my wife isobsessed with and mad because I won't
entertain it at all.
Right?
Like, that's how she wanted meto propose and stuff like that.
And I kind of told her, get.
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And so she.
She claims that she loves thismovie because of that scene.
Right.
We're watching it because Icouldn't watch it without her, obviously.
Sure.
And she points out somethingthat I never noticed before, but
now that I didn't notice it,it is never gonna leave my.
My brain is, where the fuck ishe doing this?
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Because she lives in thesuburbs, right?
We see street with houses onit, and this motherfucker's in a
goddamn park with picnictables and a dirt road.
So where in the world is this?
What kind of speakers thissound system got that it's going
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a quarter mile to where she's living.
Oh, God.
And so Oshi pointed that out,and now it's permanently etched in
my brain to go with theterrible scene that I hate also just
does not make sense,logistically speaking.
There's no way you're justunderestimating the fact that Seattle
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has parks everywhere.
No, I'm telling you.
Did you know this is a fact.
Matson, you may or may notknow this about the state that you
now live in, but Seattleitself, the guy, one of the guys
that founded it or was part ofit like, or some.
I don't remember if it waslater on, but there was somebody
that made a law that said every.
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There has to be a park withina certain amount of mileage of every
home in.
In Seattle.
Seriously?
No, like what Seattle's park rule.
I'm telling you, you wait.
And, and so the fact that this.
And listen, this is a CameronCrow thing.
He loves Seattle.
So a lot of his takes place inSeattle and pretty sure that's where
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this is.
Is in Washington.
Well, yeah, I don't rememberthe distance, but I'm pretty sure
it has to be like walkingdistance or something like that.
Within a certain mileage therehas to be.
There's not a single law.
But it's a goal.
Oh, is that what it's a goal?
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I mean they do pretty good atit from my understanding.
Like there's parks all over.
The reason being is becausethey need to give people hope in
the freaking fall and wintermonths and blow their brains out.
What they need is like a minisun that shows up and says, you know
what?
In this special area, it'sgoing to be bright and shiny and
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dry.
I would assume that your pastyass would like the fact that it's
overcast.
Most of the time, but I likepartly cloudy and I like to see that.
I don't want to be a soggy wetpiece of bread half the year.
I'm okay with that.
All right, so what I found.
And you guys might have foundsomething different.
It's got to be a 10 minute walk.
There it is.
That's what.
Yeah, that makes sense.
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Or that's.
That's the goal.
Yeah.
Okay, so 10 minutes.
An open space plan is whatyou're referencing from 2017.
So unfortunately JJ, so 1985,a little.
Bit early wrenches in my.
Dude, I'm just saying there'sa lot of parks in.
In Washington.
JJ, let's not get this twisted.
In the 80s you didn't need towear a seatbelt in the car.
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And you could smoke in airplane.
Dude, my favorite place to beon the freeway in the 80s was in
my.
The back shelf that was in thewindow of my parents car.
Let's not with the business.
There wasn't anything good forhumanity at that point.
Which is also probably why wehave problems today.
But I will say not smoking onan airplane problem.
I mean I'm here for that because.
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People were way tougher back then.
Look, we used to have thiswhen we had a bunch of people.
I had to sit in the middle,hump seat in the back with no seat
belt.
Let's, let's.
Yeah.
Trust me.
And I'm still here hanging out.
I mean people are tougherbecause they gotta lug around a 30
pound boombox just to get agirl's attention.
That's right.
And turn it up so loud thatshe can hear from a half mile away.
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She could have been across the street.
He just said they had a parkthat was in the center of their neighborhood.
Dude, don't.
Don't make it more complicatedthan it actually.
Classic Alec finding somethingrich ass neighborhood.
Like that is not gonna have apark in the middle of it.
Yeah, probably would actually.
That's.
Yeah.
Wood doesn't say either thator it.
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Might be like probablyprobably lived in Bellevue or Redmond
and.
Absolutely they had a.
In the 80s, golf wasn't aspopular as it is today.
Dude, they.
There wasn't a golf course inevery single city.
They were rare back then.
Just be with the rich people.
And they certainly didn'tbuild houses around golf courses
like they do now.
That's just dangerous.
I think people.
I'm just waiting for Alec toexpound upon some golf story conspiracy
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theory that he was.
He's been waiting to burn or something.
Don't have any golf conspiracy stories.
Well, now all you guys aredoing is maybe want to go golf.
But that's neither here northere when it comes to say anything
but.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, listen, do I think thatthis movie deserves the like classic
status that it gets?
Probably not.
Like, I, I don't.
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There's not anything innatelythat stands out to this movie other
than the fact that somedumbass in a trench coat and weird
80s tennis shoes with his jeanbecause he.
With his jeans like strappedto his leg because they had to like
the.
The freaking stretchy at thebottom of their jeans.
Like there's such an 80sstaple but like there's not anything
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as far.
But that's a. I, I don't know.
And I think about Cameron Crow too.
Like I always think aboutdirectors and what they.
This is his first movie thathe ever directed and so.
And now he's come out withsome of the best movies.
Like.
Well, I don't want to say thatbut they're very.
Some very classic movies thatare out there.
I mean like the guy did Jerry Maguire.
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He did.
What else did he do.
He's done a lot of stuff.
A lot with Jeremy Piven, a lotwith John Cusack, actually.
But like, yeah, I mean, it'sone of those things where there's.
He's a weird dude.
So he's got some weird moviesthat he does.
Like he.
Almost Famous, Jerry Maguire,it was another one that was a big
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vanilla sky.
So he does weird.
And I guess that's why I think about.
Because when I first saw thismovie, I was really young and all
I saw was the goofy and thedon't even just go the away dude.
Pretty sure I was like 12 andit came out on VHS and it was.
But yeah, I mean, it's notlike, yeah, it doesn't stand out.
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And I.
But it was a good launchingpoint for Cameron Crow, I guess.
And that's where I get when Ithink about the underlying story.
Like, he stopped trying to becute later on in life, like, and
he just went for the darker,heavier content in, like, when you
watch Almost Famous or evenJerry Maguire for that matter.
Jerry Maguire does it a littlebit better in that there's a lot
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of funny and there's a lot ofgoofy, but it never lets go of the
challenge and the.
The underlying story.
So obviously he grew as a director.
But yeah, this movie feelsreally disjointed in a lot of ways.
And I think that's where I getfrustrated is like, it's like pure
comedy.
The first 45 minutes and thenthe last 30, you're like, the.
Are we doing like, got dadsgoing to jail.
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We got 18 and 19 year oldsgoing to England together.
Like, this got wild, like,real quick.
So I. I do get really.
It's very whiplashy, I willsay that.
But it does hold somenostalgia to me.
So I'm like, like the scenewhere at the end of the park and
they drive that guy all theway back to his house that, like,
lived.
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I guess he lived in like coreSeattle, but shoot, I was like, did
they go to another city orlike in Portland?
Like, what the hell?
This took forever.
What was the point of showing that?
They drove all the way back.
I know there's some dialogue,but I was like, why did we do that?
Like, who could?
Like, I don't know.
I think it showed that theyclearly hung up for longer than they
thought, all that.
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And they wanted to show thatscene in the street where he was
celebrating, which is funny,but just some questionable.
I mean, this movie was short.
Like, don't get me wrong, love that.
But I just Yeah, I think Jaysaid it best.
That's just what I rememberabout this movie.
There was multiple times I waslike, what is actually happening
here?
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Like, what.
What am I watching?
But the part about I liked islike, I didn't.
I enjoyed like, those.
Most of it.
I was just like, yeah, this.
The storytelling, as Jayalluded to, just feels disjointed.
And I wasn't sure what I wassupposed to be feeling throughout
the movie because it flipflopped a little bit and I was like,
oh, this is getting moreserious at the end.
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But I wasn't feeling seriousat all about this movie until like
the last 40 or 30 minutes.
And now you want me to go froma comedy to, like a drama?
I'm confused, and I thinkthat's the hardest part about this
movie for me.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm gonna have to add moreCameron Crow movies to drive you
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guys crazy.
No, thanks, I'm good.
I will say that's my new go tofor Alec, though.
Besides horror is Cameron Crow.
I mean, Alec picked this.
So, like, he did it for the contrary.
Yeah, yeah, he did it so wewouldn't have like, this.
Alec, do you like hammeringyour own fingernails?
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Why would I ever hammer my own.
Your.
Why would you ever pick amovie you didn't like and watch it
again?
I don't know.
For the beauty of discussion.
Yes.
And probably the people know,Madison, that this is not as good
as everybody hypes it up to be.
That would be.
Be like.
Like picking a Zack Snydermovie just to prove a point.
And I think I just getprogressively angrier throughout,
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like, the whole watching of itand just like, quit this podcast.
That's what it would do to me, Alex.
Like, so more Zack Snyder.
Okay.
Was a listener turned co host.
He knows that they're.
That's still my episode, bythe way.
It's been a long time since Iwent volatile on a podcast.
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In fact, it's probably been.
I can't even think of the lasttime there's only been a couple.
But yeah, I haven't felt that.
That passion.
But I still remember sittingin my basement, laughing my ever
loving ass off, trying not toknock the table over.
Matson losing his mind becausewe recorded it right after we watched
the movie at my house.
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Like, oh, it was wrong.
It was wild.
It was wild.
I have a bookmark.
I go back and listen to itabout once every three months.
Great.
It made one of the greatestcold opens of our show too.
Like, if you haven't listenedto our.
Our.
What is what was even thatmovie, the Justice League.
If you don't watch listen tothat one.
God, you should go listen tothat one because that's funny.
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Didn't have video.
God, I wish we had video backthen because of course we never got
done.
This is.
The depth of this movie isthat we.
There's really very little totalk about other than it's a John
Cusack movie, so it fits thetheme of the month.
But yeah, I, I would like.
This is a movie that I wouldlike a remake of and to have it be.
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And I'm rare that I say that,but I would like that and have it
be darker and less about theromantic 80s, late 80s romantic comedy
where like teenage angst is atthe forefront, but instead like some
real life.
That's a great story.
And yeah, I was thinking aboutCamera Crow because he.
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We just.
Casey loves this movie calledAloha that he did that I hate.
And it's the same movie.
Like it's just in it only as adults.
Like that's.
It's pretty much if like thesetwo's lives went on in life and then
we came back and revisitedafter a weird divorce and then like
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a new.
That's what, that's what Alohawould be.
It's really.
It reminds me of that becauseI get done watching it with Casey
and she goes, oh, it's sofunny and weird.
And I'm like.
I feel like I just was in ahead on collision.
I'm so whiplash.
Like I don't know what the.
They're trying to show me withthis movie.
And that's what this one.
It does do that to me.
I.
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This is a movie.
I'm like Alec, I put this onin the background and it's great
white noise because I'll hear something.
I go, oh yeah, I want to watchthis part like Jeremy Piven running
out of the party and gettingin John Cusack's face for no other
reason than he's hammered, right?
And cry like half cryingbecause he takes his keys.
It's funny as.
But then I'm done again foranother 25 minutes or whatever, right
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until the next interesting scene.
But for the most part it iswhat it is.
All right, should we rate it?
Let's do it.
God, might be our shortestepisode ever.
Alec, your movie, your start.
Oh, it's gonna be very short.
The best part of the movie forme is the very end where they time
like the last five minutes tofade to black for the, the you know,
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plane crash scenarios thatthat got.
That gets a chuckle out of me.
But otherwise this movie isway overhyped.
It is not as good as peoplewill have you believe as the pop
culture has gotten a hold.
This one strong.
It is a very solid two though.
I'll give this a two out offive if I can avoid it.
I will never watch it again.
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That's.
That's higher than I thoughtyou'd give it.
I'm gonna give it a two and a half.
I. I think it's a middle ofthe road movie.
I. I agree.
It's not what the hype wouldhave it be, right?
I also think that 80s movieslike this, everybody was copying
John Holmes and they.
Or not.
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John Holmes.
What the.
His name?
John Holmes.
You can get there.
No, but you can get there.
Why am I.
Why am I talking about a 80sporn star right now?
Like, that's John Holmes.
Why can I not think of his name?
Come on.
Come on, J.J. get there.
Don't make me do this, Alex.
Making my brain hurt.
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What's his name?
You can do it anyway.
Yeah, like.
No, I know you can.
I really won't get there anyway.
You know, like Breakfast Club guy.
Like that's.
That's it.
I know who I'm talking about.
Home Alone, Breakfast Club.
Pretty in Pink.
Come on.
Sweet 16.
16 candles.
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Rather like.
I know who it is.
And I keep wanting to say it'sJohn, but it's not.
Anyway, I'm gonna let it go.
No, don't do that, J.J. but everybody.
Was trying to recreate whatthe magic that he found, right?
And he was able to tellstories, but he tells great stories
that are holistic and run fromstart to finish.
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This one's a mess.
It's all over the place.
And.
And he tried to just capturethe 80s goofy magic of.
And it just didn't work.
So poo poo Cameron Crow forthis one.
But it does have someinteresting moments and I do enjoy
it.
It's one of my guiltypleasures if I have to.
But John Cusack is one of myguilty pleasures, if I'm being completely
honest, which I think I'vementioned in this.
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So two and a half for me.
I'll watch it again.
But again, if it comes to JohnCusack, it's certainly not my first
choice.
So if I've got to picksomething else, it's going to be
something different.
John Hughes.
God damn it.
God damn it.
John Hughes.
It started with an H. Anyway, I'm.
Gonna give this movie a 2.
A little below average.
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The next movie we're gonnareview next week.
I. I like certainly more butit's in the same vein.
I just think it's done betterand weirder and funnier.
This is like a poor man'sbetter off dead for me in a sense.
Odd movie.
I am happy to have watched it.
I guess.
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Say it again, we might believeit's an experience.
It was.
I don't think I'll ever watchthis again.
But I mean I was entertainedlike there.
There's worse you could do.
I don't think anyone in mysphere will ever say let's watch
say anything.
But if someone did, I wouldn'timmediately shoot it down.
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Fair enough.
I will say one more thingbefore we wrap up.
This thing is that much likemost 80s movies.
God, did it have a greatsoundtrack though.
That is true.
Because listen, if you.
I'm just telling you somethings Lost in Translation in the.
In the modern day but if youcan pump some Peter Gabriel outside
of a girl's window in the late80s, you were probably gonna get
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laid.
I'm just saying it doesn'twork that way anymore.
You gotta do like Wap, I guess.
I don't know.
But it's certainly not Peter Gabriel.
We need to get back to goodmusic being what drops.
Never mind, I'll stop there.
Alec, tell everybody whereelse they can find us, buddy.
Happy to.
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Cinematic la.
JJ was in the chicken suit.
You.
You.
You know me.
I was never a key master.
I was the dude that was passedout under the coffee table with popcorn
on his face.
Don't get that twisted.
Nobody was trusting me withtheir keys and staying sober all
night.
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We're into a new month.
It's the month of October.
We let Alec off the hook alittle bit because it's not Halloween.
Yes.
(01:31):
Yeah, I was like, we up.
But that's okay.
I kind of got him in the lastmovie if he hasn't watched it already.
Have you watched us?
No.
Yeah, but it's not that bad.
But it could have been wayworse, especially with like.
Like weapons out right now.
We up.
But we also might have gottenMatson divorced some of that.
(01:58):
So.
Yeah.
So anyway, October.
We're doing John Cusack October.
Again, no alliteration.
I'm sad, but that's okay.
We're spoiled and we didn't appreciate.
Yeah, I know, right?
The first month.
It'll never be as good, butwe're kicking it off with the classic
say anything.
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It was released April 14, 1989.
It was written by and directedby Cameron Crowe.
Stars John Cusack, Ione Sky,John Mahoney, Lily Taylor, Amy Brooks,
Pamela Adlon, Jason Gould,Lauren Dean, Polly Platt, Jeremy
Piven, and Glenn Walker Harris Jr.
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It is about a nobleunderachiever and a beautiful, valid
valedictorian.
Fall in love in the summerbefore she goes off to college.
That's a weak sauce synopsis,but sure, I guess it captures the.
The big story beats Alec.
This was your pick.
Why'd you pick this one?
Man, this movie gets far toomuch credit.
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Ah.
As it is.
It is.
It is not anywhere near a goodmovie, let alone in like any conversation
for being the best movie ever.
But there's one scene in it,everybody knows the scene and it's
giving it like cult status orjust classic status.
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And it gives the movie a free pass.
I hate this movie.
Really with a passion.
Really, really.
It gives way too much credit.
It is not, it's not good.
So of course I put it in thepodcast fair.
That's a.
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As a resident, man of the people.
Just so you know, if there's amovie I don't like, we're probably
not gonna watch it.
I'll save you all the pain.
So as we know, Alex, a little twisted.
Makes sense.
Twisted.
Interesting.
So I'm like one against two onthis one.
Is that what I'm hearing?
I think Max.
(04:02):
Oh, I, I.
No, I'm definitely notstrongly as opinion as Alec.
Like I do.
I prefer another movie we'regoing to review over this as a better
version of this movie.
Being Better Off Dead.
That feels a lot like it.
But that movie just did itbetter and probably.
But I'd never seen sayanything until I've seen it.
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I remember I seen on TV thaticonic scene we'll talk about.
But for a second I was like,wait, is this a movie that I know
I've seen being better off?
Then I was like, no, it's not.
But it has like shades ofrandomness and weirdness that fit.
You could have just take someof the scenes in this movie and put
in better option like allright, well, probably fit.
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I didn't mind it.
I didn't like love it.
But it was entertaining atmore than a few spots and I've seen
way, way, way, way, way worsethings in this movie.
Just a kind of a.
It's an odd movie.
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It is a very odd movie.
And I won't say that Icompletely 100 disagree with Alec
in that it is, it is.
It doesn't deserve the statusthat it garners.
Right.
And I think there's a couplethings for that.
One, John Cusack when he wasthis young was like up and coming
until he did a couple ofmovies later that kind of made his
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career really weird.
One of which has already beenmentioned with Better Off Dead.
Like what a weird ass movie.
But anyway, the other piecethat I don't.
It is all based on one real scene.
Right?
Like and it's a throwawayscene if you really get into it because
there's nothing even.
There's no value add to themovie other than it's Cool.
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Seeing him hold the boomboxand poor John Cusack struggling to
hold that some up because thatwas a big ugly bastard, that thing.
And.
And as somebody that grew upin this time frame, like every kid
my age has tried this andwe're like, that.
That thing's heavy.
But I. I do like parts of thismovie, like, beyond just what makes
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it famous, like, I think it'sa very weird movie and there's some
really whiplashy parts whereyou're like, wait, what the fuck
am I watching?
But what I really like is likethe last 30 minutes from the.
The iconic stereo holding scene.
And after.
I really like this movie.
I think it's got a veryinteresting story that they went
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away from because they weretrying to make this more of a happy
ish movie, right?
And silly in a lot of places.
But, like, the idea of this.
This goofy kid that's got arough life on the surface, right,
Chasing after thisvaledictorian that's got this, like,
perfect, you know, pampered life.
And the fact that when youlook at it deep in.
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Look at each life deep intothe story, like, it's the exact opposite.
John Cusack's character's gotthis really, what looks like on the
outside, a tough life, tougherlife anyway, right?
But at the end of the day, hislife's pretty good.
He's got a support system.
He's got people that careabout him, people that want him to
succeed and are there for himto support him.
And then you got this girlthat's smart and got money and all
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this.
And on the surface, looks likeher life's great.
Turns out her dad's a crook,albeit a white collar criminal, but
still like a pretty gnarlycriminal too, because he's stealing
from old people.
Like, it's wild.
And so like that juxtapositionof these two different stories, but
we don't get into that.
Like, you get little hints ofit of, you know, that they're investigating
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her dad, whatever, throughoutthe movie, but you don't actually
get into the meat of that andhow it impacts these two human beings
and the decisions they makeuntil after they break up.
And he does this, you know,the in your eyes moment and like.
And I'm like, I would love tohave had that been more of a thing
throughout it.
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I didn't even need the dadtrying to get him to break up.
Like, I think it would havemade more sense if they had fought
over the fact that they hadsuch wildly different lives versus
dad's Pressuring me to go toschool without a boyfriend.
Like, I hate that part of thestory, but everything surrounding
it, I'm like, I think it's avery interesting study in human nature
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and how a lot of timesopposites attract in love.
Right.
Especially, like socialstatus, things like that.
Like, you see a lot of that inhigh school and.
And young love, if you will, to.
Not to coin a cheesy phrase, but.
And then this just uglinessthat's hiding in their lives or what
seemingly wasn't a great life,but they have a lot of what you could
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ask for from like an emotionalor support, you know, specific realm.
Anyway, I just think it's veryinteresting, but it's not accomplished.
And you.
Like, I have no idea what theI'm watching until that moment when
you're like, oh, wait, there'ssome serious going on.
Let's just stop.
You.
Like, I never.
My mind never even got thatserious because this movie didn't
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help me get to that pointbecause it was just weird.
Through a lot of it.
What I'm really wanting toknow, and I think what America wants
to know is were these partiesthat the party that they displayed
in this movie.
Jj, were you a key master at aparty once upon a time?
JJ was in the chicken suit.
You.
You.
You know me, I was never a key master.
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I was the dude that was passedout under the coffee table with popcorn
on his face.
Don't get that twisted.
Nobody was trusting me withtheir keys and staying sober.
That seems so funny to me.
When she shows up.
I remember turning the tails.
Like, she clearly hasn'treally been to any party because
she is dressed out to, like,then she's going to homecoming or
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something right now.
And he's in like, his was thismovie made in the 80s, early 90s.
80s.
80S.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's like his 80s vibes withhis trench coat things.
Got his John Bender coat on.
Yeah.
And which probably fit for thetimes, but I was like, man, they
could be more polar opposite.
And showing up to this partyand every.
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You can.
It's just funny to see.
He was clearly like in withthat crowd.
And she was quickly like, thehell did I get myself into?
Like, I gotta get out of here.
And then she's on the phonewith her dad.
You're like, girl, this is weird.
That whole scene just made mechuckle because there was just such
random bits.
And I was like.
That was indicative of thiswhole movie.
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There was just a lot of weirdthings that they put in front of
you.
And most of the time, I washere for it.
I was like, all right, this isnot making a whole ton of sense.
There's a narrative underneathit that these two people are gonna
end up together.
But in what world does thisactually happen?
Probably never in reality, butI was entertained and I sure loved
that party scene.
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There's multiple things that.
That made me laugh.
Like the guy at the end, I wasso drunk.
He was like, hyper Jeremy Piven.
Dude, love, Jerry.
You can't have a John Cusackfilm without Jeremy Piven.
That guy made me laugh.
But like, this movie as well,like John Cusack, he looked like.
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I mean, he kind of looked likehe was in high school in this movie.
He might have been closeenough in age, but shoot.
Dude.
He was not a good looking dudeat that point.
Not that he ever really got tobe one.
But he had, like, no chin,like, completely baby face, pasty
white.
I was like, bro, ain't no wayshe's showing up with you because
you'd, like, fade away intothe background because you look like
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a ghost.
Jesus.
This guy.
So judgmental.
I mean, I could say it.
I'm pasty white myself.
I mean, we just.
We game.
Recognized game.
There you go.
There you go.
So funny.
So funny.
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Yeah, listen.
No, go ahead, Alex.
I was gonna say.
So most of my hate stems fromthis one stupid scene because it's
a scene that my wife isobsessed with and mad because I won't
entertain it at all.
Right?
Like, that's how she wanted meto propose and stuff like that.
And I kind of told her, get.
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And so she.
She claims that she loves thismovie because of that scene.
Right.
We're watching it because Icouldn't watch it without her, obviously.
Sure.
And she points out somethingthat I never noticed before, but
now that I didn't notice it,it is never gonna leave my.
My brain is, where the fuck ishe doing this?
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Because she lives in thesuburbs, right?
We see street with houses onit, and this motherfucker's in a
goddamn park with picnictables and a dirt road.
So where in the world is this?
What kind of speakers thissound system got that it's going
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a quarter mile to where she's living.
Oh, God.
And so Oshi pointed that out,and now it's permanently etched in
my brain to go with theterrible scene that I hate also just
does not make sense,logistically speaking.
There's no way you're justunderestimating the fact that Seattle
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has parks everywhere.
No, I'm telling you.
Did you know this is a fact.
Matson, you may or may notknow this about the state that you
now live in, but Seattleitself, the guy, one of the guys
that founded it or was part ofit like, or some.
I don't remember if it waslater on, but there was somebody
that made a law that said every.
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There has to be a park withina certain amount of mileage of every
home in.
In Seattle.
Seriously?
No, like what Seattle's park rule.
I'm telling you, you wait.
And, and so the fact that this.
And listen, this is a CameronCrow thing.
He loves Seattle.
So a lot of his takes place inSeattle and pretty sure that's where
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this is.
Is in Washington.
Well, yeah, I don't rememberthe distance, but I'm pretty sure
it has to be like walkingdistance or something like that.
Within a certain mileage therehas to be.
There's not a single law.
But it's a goal.
Oh, is that what it's a goal?
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I mean they do pretty good atit from my understanding.
Like there's parks all over.
The reason being is becausethey need to give people hope in
the freaking fall and wintermonths and blow their brains out.
What they need is like a minisun that shows up and says, you know
what?
In this special area, it'sgoing to be bright and shiny and
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dry.
I would assume that your pastyass would like the fact that it's
overcast.
Most of the time, but I likepartly cloudy and I like to see that.
I don't want to be a soggy wetpiece of bread half the year.
I'm okay with that.
All right, so what I found.
And you guys might have foundsomething different.
It's got to be a 10 minute walk.
There it is.
That's what.
Yeah, that makes sense.
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Or that's.
That's the goal.
Yeah.
Okay, so 10 minutes.
An open space plan is whatyou're referencing from 2017.
So unfortunately JJ, so 1985,a little.
Bit early wrenches in my.
Dude, I'm just saying there'sa lot of parks in.
In Washington.
JJ, let's not get this twisted.
In the 80s you didn't need towear a seatbelt in the car.
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And you could smoke in airplane.
Dude, my favorite place to beon the freeway in the 80s was in
my.
The back shelf that was in thewindow of my parents car.
Let's not with the business.
There wasn't anything good forhumanity at that point.
Which is also probably why wehave problems today.
But I will say not smoking onan airplane problem.
I mean I'm here for that because.
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People were way tougher back then.
Look, we used to have thiswhen we had a bunch of people.
I had to sit in the middle,hump seat in the back with no seat
belt.
Let's, let's.
Yeah.
Trust me.
And I'm still here hanging out.
I mean people are tougherbecause they gotta lug around a 30
pound boombox just to get agirl's attention.
That's right.
And turn it up so loud thatshe can hear from a half mile away.
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She could have been across the street.
He just said they had a parkthat was in the center of their neighborhood.
Dude, don't.
Don't make it more complicatedthan it actually.
Classic Alec finding somethingrich ass neighborhood.
Like that is not gonna have apark in the middle of it.
Yeah, probably would actually.
That's.
Yeah.
Wood doesn't say either thator it.
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Might be like probablyprobably lived in Bellevue or Redmond
and.
Absolutely they had a.
In the 80s, golf wasn't aspopular as it is today.
Dude, they.
There wasn't a golf course inevery single city.
They were rare back then.
Just be with the rich people.
And they certainly didn'tbuild houses around golf courses
like they do now.
That's just dangerous.
I think people.
I'm just waiting for Alec toexpound upon some golf story conspiracy
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theory that he was.
He's been waiting to burn or something.
Don't have any golf conspiracy stories.
Well, now all you guys aredoing is maybe want to go golf.
But that's neither here northere when it comes to say anything
but.
Yeah, I don't know.
Like, listen, do I think thatthis movie deserves the like classic
status that it gets?
Probably not.
Like, I, I don't.
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There's not anything innatelythat stands out to this movie other
than the fact that somedumbass in a trench coat and weird
80s tennis shoes with his jeanbecause he.
With his jeans like strappedto his leg because they had to like
the.
The freaking stretchy at thebottom of their jeans.
Like there's such an 80sstaple but like there's not anything
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as far.
But that's a. I, I don't know.
And I think about Cameron Crow too.
Like I always think aboutdirectors and what they.
This is his first movie thathe ever directed and so.
And now he's come out withsome of the best movies.
Like.
Well, I don't want to say thatbut they're very.
Some very classic movies thatare out there.
I mean like the guy did Jerry Maguire.
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He did.
What else did he do.
He's done a lot of stuff.
A lot with Jeremy Piven, a lotwith John Cusack, actually.
But like, yeah, I mean, it'sone of those things where there's.
He's a weird dude.
So he's got some weird moviesthat he does.
Like he.
Almost Famous, Jerry Maguire,it was another one that was a big
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vanilla sky.
So he does weird.
And I guess that's why I think about.
Because when I first saw thismovie, I was really young and all
I saw was the goofy and thedon't even just go the away dude.
Pretty sure I was like 12 andit came out on VHS and it was.
But yeah, I mean, it's notlike, yeah, it doesn't stand out.
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And I.
But it was a good launchingpoint for Cameron Crow, I guess.
And that's where I get when Ithink about the underlying story.
Like, he stopped trying to becute later on in life, like, and
he just went for the darker,heavier content in, like, when you
watch Almost Famous or evenJerry Maguire for that matter.
Jerry Maguire does it a littlebit better in that there's a lot
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of funny and there's a lot ofgoofy, but it never lets go of the
challenge and the.
The underlying story.
So obviously he grew as a director.
But yeah, this movie feelsreally disjointed in a lot of ways.
And I think that's where I getfrustrated is like, it's like pure
comedy.
The first 45 minutes and thenthe last 30, you're like, the.
Are we doing like, got dadsgoing to jail.
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We got 18 and 19 year oldsgoing to England together.
Like, this got wild, like,real quick.
So I. I do get really.
It's very whiplashy, I willsay that.
But it does hold somenostalgia to me.
So I'm like, like the scenewhere at the end of the park and
they drive that guy all theway back to his house that, like,
lived.
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I guess he lived in like coreSeattle, but shoot, I was like, did
they go to another city orlike in Portland?
Like, what the hell?
This took forever.
What was the point of showing that?
They drove all the way back.
I know there's some dialogue,but I was like, why did we do that?
Like, who could?
Like, I don't know.
I think it showed that theyclearly hung up for longer than they
thought, all that.
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And they wanted to show thatscene in the street where he was
celebrating, which is funny,but just some questionable.
I mean, this movie was short.
Like, don't get me wrong, love that.
But I just Yeah, I think Jaysaid it best.
That's just what I rememberabout this movie.
There was multiple times I waslike, what is actually happening
here?
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Like, what.
What am I watching?
But the part about I liked islike, I didn't.
I enjoyed like, those.
Most of it.
I was just like, yeah, this.
The storytelling, as Jayalluded to, just feels disjointed.
And I wasn't sure what I wassupposed to be feeling throughout
the movie because it flipflopped a little bit and I was like,
oh, this is getting moreserious at the end.
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But I wasn't feeling seriousat all about this movie until like
the last 40 or 30 minutes.
And now you want me to go froma comedy to, like a drama?
I'm confused, and I thinkthat's the hardest part about this
movie for me.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm gonna have to add moreCameron Crow movies to drive you
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guys crazy.
No, thanks, I'm good.
I will say that's my new go tofor Alec, though.
Besides horror is Cameron Crow.
I mean, Alec picked this.
So, like, he did it for the contrary.
Yeah, yeah, he did it so wewouldn't have like, this.
Alec, do you like hammeringyour own fingernails?
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Why would I ever hammer my own.
Your.
Why would you ever pick amovie you didn't like and watch it
again?
I don't know.
For the beauty of discussion.
Yes.
And probably the people know,Madison, that this is not as good
as everybody hypes it up to be.
That would be.
Be like.
Like picking a Zack Snydermovie just to prove a point.
And I think I just getprogressively angrier throughout,
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like, the whole watching of itand just like, quit this podcast.
That's what it would do to me, Alex.
Like, so more Zack Snyder.
Okay.
Was a listener turned co host.
He knows that they're.
That's still my episode, bythe way.
It's been a long time since Iwent volatile on a podcast.
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In fact, it's probably been.
I can't even think of the lasttime there's only been a couple.
But yeah, I haven't felt that.
That passion.
But I still remember sittingin my basement, laughing my ever
loving ass off, trying not toknock the table over.
Matson losing his mind becausewe recorded it right after we watched
the movie at my house.
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Like, oh, it was wrong.
It was wild.
It was wild.
I have a bookmark.
I go back and listen to itabout once every three months.
Great.
It made one of the greatestcold opens of our show too.
Like, if you haven't listenedto our.
Our.
What is what was even thatmovie, the Justice League.
If you don't watch listen tothat one.
God, you should go listen tothat one because that's funny.
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Didn't have video.
God, I wish we had video backthen because of course we never got
done.
This is.
The depth of this movie isthat we.
There's really very little totalk about other than it's a John
Cusack movie, so it fits thetheme of the month.
But yeah, I, I would like.
This is a movie that I wouldlike a remake of and to have it be.
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And I'm rare that I say that,but I would like that and have it
be darker and less about theromantic 80s, late 80s romantic comedy
where like teenage angst is atthe forefront, but instead like some
real life.
That's a great story.
And yeah, I was thinking aboutCamera Crow because he.
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We just.
Casey loves this movie calledAloha that he did that I hate.
And it's the same movie.
Like it's just in it only as adults.
Like that's.
It's pretty much if like thesetwo's lives went on in life and then
we came back and revisitedafter a weird divorce and then like
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a new.
That's what, that's what Alohawould be.
It's really.
It reminds me of that becauseI get done watching it with Casey
and she goes, oh, it's sofunny and weird.
And I'm like.
I feel like I just was in ahead on collision.
I'm so whiplash.
Like I don't know what the.
They're trying to show me withthis movie.
And that's what this one.
It does do that to me.
I.
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This is a movie.
I'm like Alec, I put this onin the background and it's great
white noise because I'll hear something.
I go, oh yeah, I want to watchthis part like Jeremy Piven running
out of the party and gettingin John Cusack's face for no other
reason than he's hammered, right?
And cry like half cryingbecause he takes his keys.
It's funny as.
But then I'm done again foranother 25 minutes or whatever, right
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until the next interesting scene.
But for the most part it iswhat it is.
All right, should we rate it?
Let's do it.
God, might be our shortestepisode ever.
Alec, your movie, your start.
Oh, it's gonna be very short.
The best part of the movie forme is the very end where they time
like the last five minutes tofade to black for the, the you know,
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plane crash scenarios thatthat got.
That gets a chuckle out of me.
But otherwise this movie isway overhyped.
It is not as good as peoplewill have you believe as the pop
culture has gotten a hold.
This one strong.
It is a very solid two though.
I'll give this a two out offive if I can avoid it.
I will never watch it again.
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That's.
That's higher than I thoughtyou'd give it.
I'm gonna give it a two and a half.
I. I think it's a middle ofthe road movie.
I. I agree.
It's not what the hype wouldhave it be, right?
I also think that 80s movieslike this, everybody was copying
John Holmes and they.
Or not.
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John Holmes.
What the.
His name?
John Holmes.
You can get there.
No, but you can get there.
Why am I.
Why am I talking about a 80sporn star right now?
Like, that's John Holmes.
Why can I not think of his name?
Come on.
Come on, J.J. get there.
Don't make me do this, Alex.
Making my brain hurt.
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What's his name?
You can do it anyway.
Yeah, like.
No, I know you can.
I really won't get there anyway.
You know, like Breakfast Club guy.
Like that's.
That's it.
I know who I'm talking about.
Home Alone, Breakfast Club.
Pretty in Pink.
Come on.
Sweet 16.
16 candles.
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Rather like.
I know who it is.
And I keep wanting to say it'sJohn, but it's not.
Anyway, I'm gonna let it go.
No, don't do that, J.J. but everybody.
Was trying to recreate whatthe magic that he found, right?
And he was able to tellstories, but he tells great stories
that are holistic and run fromstart to finish.
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This one's a mess.
It's all over the place.
And.
And he tried to just capturethe 80s goofy magic of.
And it just didn't work.
So poo poo Cameron Crow forthis one.
But it does have someinteresting moments and I do enjoy
it.
It's one of my guiltypleasures if I have to.
But John Cusack is one of myguilty pleasures, if I'm being completely
honest, which I think I'vementioned in this.
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So two and a half for me.
I'll watch it again.
But again, if it comes to JohnCusack, it's certainly not my first
choice.
So if I've got to picksomething else, it's going to be
something different.
John Hughes.
God damn it.
God damn it.
John Hughes.
It started with an H. Anyway, I'm.
Gonna give this movie a 2.
A little below average.
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The next movie we're gonnareview next week.
I. I like certainly more butit's in the same vein.
I just think it's done betterand weirder and funnier.
This is like a poor man'sbetter off dead for me in a sense.
Odd movie.
I am happy to have watched it.
I guess.
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Say it again, we might believeit's an experience.
It was.
I don't think I'll ever watchthis again.
But I mean I was entertainedlike there.
There's worse you could do.
I don't think anyone in mysphere will ever say let's watch
say anything.
But if someone did, I wouldn'timmediately shoot it down.
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Fair enough.
I will say one more thingbefore we wrap up.
This thing is that much likemost 80s movies.
God, did it have a greatsoundtrack though.
That is true.
Because listen, if you.
I'm just telling you somethings Lost in Translation in the.
In the modern day but if youcan pump some Peter Gabriel outside
of a girl's window in the late80s, you were probably gonna get
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laid.
I'm just saying it doesn'twork that way anymore.
You gotta do like Wap, I guess.
I don't know.
But it's certainly not Peter Gabriel.
We need to get back to goodmusic being what drops.
Never mind, I'll stop there.
Alec, tell everybody whereelse they can find us, buddy.
Happy to.
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So if you stuck around thislong, we appreciate you.
Best place to find us is on Patreon.
YouTube's where you can seeour smiling faces more or less.
You know, the ones that aren'tgood enough for tv but definitely
not good enough for radio.
And from there, Patreon is thebest place to get involved in terms
of content.
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We are putting votes out everysingle month for categories and then
within those categories.
Movies.
October, John Cusack month.
This is week one.
There's four more.
Three.
Three more.
Three more small month.
Good on that.
So that's place to getinvolved with the voting.
Voting is absolutely free, sojust follow.
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So what's our verdict?
Reviews and Patreon to getinvolved in the content creation
there.
If you want to ask us a couplebucks there is a about 600 episodes
of Extra content that rangefrom bloops to full length episodes
of movies nobody should watch.
Speaking of Patreon, you know,shout out to our patrons Rich and
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Charles for making us watchsome of those movies that nobody
should ever have to watch, youknow, so enjoy that a little bit
more money and you canactually make a stuff that nobody
should watch.
And we'll watch it and review it.
So have fun with that.
With that, I will kick it back.
To the fearless leader.
The let's see the wise year of Wap.
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Jack Dunn's baby.
It's been a while since I usedthat one.
A J.J. much appreciated.
Alec.
Yeah.
Go check us out.
It's a lot of fun.
We're weird, we're dumb, butit's fun anyway.
And with that, as always, weappreciate you tuning in.
We'll catch you on the next one.
Hasta la vista, baby.
Cinematic la.
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