June 23, 2025 • 34 mins
JJ, Mattson and Alec delve into the cinematic masterpiece "The Goonies," which is celebrated for its nostalgic value and lasting appeal. We engage in a thorough analysis of the film's narrative, which follows a group of misfit children on a thrilling quest to uncover hidden treasure, thereby embodying the spirit of adventure and camaraderie. The episode highlights the exceptional performances of the young cast, notably Sean Astin, Josh Brolin, and Corey Feldman, while also appreciating the film's blend of humor and poignant moments that resonate with audiences of all ages. Furthermore, we reflect on the significance of practical effects utilized in the film, contrasting it with modern CGI techniques that often detract from the authenticity of storytelling. Ultimately, we express our unequivocal admiration for "The Goonies," asserting its status as a quintessential film that continues to inspire and entertain generations.
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And I've been asked is, youknow, once I got fat Shuffle Shuffle.
Which I've done quite a few times.
Enough alcohol.
Or good friend of mine namedMary Jane.
And I'll definitely truffle shuffle.
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Welcome to the what'sEverybody Podcast, where we fashion
ourselves cinematic judge and Jerry.
My name is J.J.
crowder.
I'm here with my co hosts, Matz.
Better Red Than Dead and Alec Burgess.
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Yeah.
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So go check it out with thatweek four of summer movies.
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Summer kickoff movies.
I don't know.
Just summer movies I think is good.
And this week's a doozy.
We're hitting it off with the Goonies.
It was released.
Oh, I missed freaking did my thing.
Look at me looking like a.
Again.
It was released in 1985.
June 7th to be exact.
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In 1985.
It was written by ChristopherColumbus and Steven Spielberg.
It was directed by Richard Donner.
Stars Sean Astin, Josh Brolin,Jeff Cohen, Corey Feldman, Carrie
Green, Martha Plimpton, KihuKwan, John Matusak.
I love that name.
Robert Davy, Joe Pantolianoand Ann Ramsay.
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It's about a group of youngmisfits called the Goonies who discover
an ancient map and set out onan adventure to find a legendary
pirates long lost treasure.
Great synopsis and the factthat you can give a one sentence
synopsis just tells me thatthis movie's great.
I love it.
This was my pick becauseMatson foregoed it for.
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He gave it up because he knew he.
Yeah, he voted too many and sohe chose other three.
So I stole it.
It was on my list to beginwith, but I always let these knuckleheads
choose first, which has beenmuch to my demise a couple of times.
But JJ Scooter, you love ourmovie picks.
No, I'm meeting you guys willpick them and I go God damn it.
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Now I gotta figure somethingelse out for the topic.
So.
So I was happy that this onestayed on it because this may be
my favorite childhood movie ofall time.
It's arguably my favoritechildhood movie of all time.
Sandlot's up there.
But this one I think probablygot watched as much as the Star wars
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saga, which for me, anyonethat knows me, these guys will attest
is that's saying a lot.
So I love this movie.
It's hilarious, it'srelatable, it's wild, it's all over
the place, it's out there,it's ridiculous.
But it's God damn a good time.
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And it's funny and it's justlike, it's just.
Yeah.
Like it's wholesome and it'sfun and I just like relate to it.
Again, we talked about this inthe last podcast, but the hijinks
that I got up to as a kid,like it takes me back to that.
Even though we didn't doanything as ridiculous as go pirate
hunting and run into criminalsand go into caves and.
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But man, we did some dumb.
So it's like, it's just realfun and I just.
Have you been to where theyfilmed a lot of this in Oregon?
I have.
In fact, as you know, there'sa plan to possibly move there at
some point like this.
Astoria, Oregon is where Caseyand I have looked at a lot of properties
there about.
Hey, trying to get JJ move alittle bit More north than that,
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but yeah, a lot closer thanwhere he is.
But I love it there.
The temps are great, theweather's great.
It's perfect for me.
So, yeah, we've been lookingat it, but yeah, I, I love this movie.
I think it's great.
I think it's funny.
I think for a bunch of childactors, they're really good.
And like, it's rare that youget this many child actors that are
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this good in one place.
And it's just, it's fun.
And then.
All right, jg, some trivia for you.
Which, in this, which actor inthis movie and this.
It's not like a, like littleknown actor.
Like which one of these actorsmade their debut in this film?
Debut?
I would have assumed that alot of them, but Sean Aston.
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Not a bad guess.
Jj, I'm gonna say Cohen.
Jeff Cohen.
Close.
It was Joshy Brolin.
Was it really?
Yeah.
Interesting.
I did not know that.
I wouldn't have guessed that.
Thinking of all thesechildhood act that many of them,
I mean, went on to do somevery big thing.
I mean, two of them, JoshBrolin and Sean Asin, are, I mean,
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legendary.
But Kihu Quan, I mean, one ofthe most annoying actors I can think
of, but also one of the most psychotic.
Well, he's.
I love his resurgence.
Like, I will say, I will say,yes, I was about to say his resurgence
has been quite.
But I should say one of the most.
But I, I still.
Dr.
Joe, I mean, he just had the.
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He just had his thing, but youcan't have the movies without it.
But like, when I look at thiscast, I'm like, oh my gosh.
Like, they really, they just,they killed it.
But also, another trivia question.
How do I ask this without.
I mean, I can't.
It's.
It's already, I've alreadykind of given it away.
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But I'm curious, jj, did youknow that the pirate ship in this
film was actually built toscale 105ft?
The cast did not see it untilthey finally shot those scenes.
Yeah, when they turn aroundand it's like, oh, like that was
real reaction.
I know because they did adocumentary or there was some filming
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where they, they did aninterview with a bunch of these guys
and they talked about that.
Yeah.
Not a trivia question, butlast question for you.
What is your favorite chunk scene?
Oh, dude, it's the shuffle shuffle.
Ah, it's so tough though,because the shuffle shuffle's great.
There's three.
I'm gonna.
There has to be three.
The Truffle shuffle when heruns through the door because.
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And then when he knocks overthe water thing and he's like, I
got it, I got it, I don't got it.
Like, I use that line my whole life.
Like, I'll say some.
I'm like, nope, didn't do it.
So, yeah, I can't narrow itdown to one.
But the Truffle shuffle stillto this day makes my fat ass laugh.
Like, I was gonna ask if that was.
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Like, you just resonate withthat in, in ways that I never could.
Well, as an adult, yes.
As a kid, I wasn't fat, so I didn't.
When I was a kid, other than Ihad some fat friends.
And so I was like, well, I'mgonna make them do the truffle shuffle.
But as a fat adult, yeah, Ilove that.
And I've been asked is, youknow, once I got fat, shuffle, shuffle,
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which I've done quite a fewtimes, enough alcohol, or a good
friend of mine named MaryJane, and I'll definitely Truffle
shuffle, no questions.
But yeah, I love Chunk.
He's my favorite.
Speaking of that, one of my.
I don't remember when I cameacross them.
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Probably like five years ago,six years ago.
There's a band that's called Chunk.
No, Captain Chunk.
And they have some of myfavorite songs.
And like a lot of other songsthey started with.
They take out that littlesound bite.
And so I think.
I mean, I think of the Gooniesvery probably.
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I mean, probably almost weeklybecause of that and just makes me
laugh.
But for me, I'm trying toremember when I first saw this.
I saw this movie a lot later.
Probably like early teensmaybe, or like late childhood, something
like that.
My older siblings had seenthis and talked a lot about this
movie.
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This movie falls in line withthe type of movies I like, like Indiana
Jones style.
So, I mean, I love this movie.
I think it's just like a.
A kid version of what I loveabout Indiana Jones in a of a sense.
I don't think it has.
It doesn't carry the nostalgialevel that it has for jj.
If I had seen it even earlieron, or especially growing up with
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that, like, this movie wouldprobably be within my, like top 10
for sure.
But that's not saying thisisn't a good movie.
I just don't have that, like,deep rooted nostalgia feel.
But it's a fun movie.
Like, I mean, just like wetalked about Sandlot the week prior,
like, this movie makes youwant to go back and find that adventure
that you Found that youimagine you're like, man, they actually
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did it.
Granted, I mean, it's notgoing to go that way.
You're not going to findsomeone like Sloth and all those
different things.
But it's great.
Like, I think it justepitomizes what you wish you would
have found as a kid and goneon that journey and beat the bad
guys and experience that as a.
As a friend group and had thatfor the rest of your lives.
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I think it's like the.
The anti it movie because itis like something like that and they
have like the trauma with that.
But this one is like, fun.
And yeah, they're in danger,but, you know, it doesn't ever really
feel like that.
It's the type of childhoodadventure we wish we always had.
Yeah.
Alec, what about you?
I'm always intrigued when wedo older movies because I know you
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love old movies.
I know you love hinky shitlike this.
Like, I do.
And so I'm always curious, butI never know because sometimes you,
like, find things really goofyand then you're like this thing.
So I'm curious.
No, I like the Goonies, but Ilike the weird parts of the Goonies.
Okay.
Like.
Like, Sloth is amazing.
Oh, Sloth's great.
Sloth.
I love Sloth.
Oh, yeah.
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But it's the.
What really, really, thismovie is.
It's like they take childactors, but instead of making them
act like adults, they let himact like kids.
Yeah.
And so like the truffleshuffle and.
Or like, you know, picking onyour fat friend and not letting them
date until he does a couple shuffle.
Yeah.
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Kid thing.
And then, I mean, they justturn it up the entire, you know,
just let the kids loose almost.
And so like another reallyfunny one or funny part of the movie
that I enjoy.
It's not supposed to be funny,but when the Fratelli's have Chunk
and they're trying to make him talk.
Oh, yeah.
Starts telling his life story.
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Yeah.
It's so good.
It feels like Steven Spielberg and.
Or whoever has actually directed.
It's like, hey, just go andjust let Chunk do Chunk.
And so you have this thingwhere they're not trying to force
these child actors to playadult roles.
They just let them act likethey naturally would have as kids.
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And, you know, you got yourbuddies together and you're goofing
off and you're, you know,picking on your older brother or
whatever, ganging up on him.
And so it's.
It's cool in that sense wherethey kind of captured this, you know,
feeling of the kids areallowed to be kids throughout this
movie, and they're not held tosome adult standard while they're
acting.
They're just like, turn on the camera.
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Let's go.
Yeah, that's a good point.
They don't.
They don't make them olderthan they need to be.
Because I've seen some othermovies where you're like, wow, they're
so mature in there, like,which can work in some settings.
But you.
That's what makes this moviegreat, is like, you can identify
who you would be in that groupand kind of relive through that.
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Yeah, I.
And to piggyback on that,Alec, I like to that it makes the
fact that they let them begoofy and silly and carefree and
not understand half the timethe danger that they're actually
in as kids do.
It also makes the.
The very mature and adultmoments that they have as kids that
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more poignant.
Like, one of my favoriteparts, even as a kid and now even
more so as an adult, is whenMouth gives his penny speech in the.
The wishing well part wherehe's like, no, this one's mine, and
I'm taking it back.
Like.
Like, that's one of thosethings where as a kid, like.
And even match it to yourpoint, when we were talking about
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Sandlot, you talk about, I'dlove to go back there and, you know,
be that level of a kid.
Because adulting sucks.
And sometimes we forget thatas an adult, we're like, man, life
is so challenging and we haveso many responsibilities.
That being a kid was so muchmore carefree and fun.
But as kids, we had our ownsets of issues.
Right.
Like, we had our own thingsthat made life difficult.
And especially, like, a groupof kids like this where they're dealing
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with something that they don'tfully understand other than the fact
that they know that they'regoing to have to move and that their
parents are having a hard time.
And, like, so often I don'tthink kids get the credit for how
off.
How much they can see howdifficult it is for their parents
and the struggles that they're having.
And so to watch Mouth havethat moment and then you have, you
know, even, like, every one of them.
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And I think that's anotherthing I love about this movie, is
every one of these kids getsat least a moment.
Right?
Right.
To shine in a comedic way andthen in a serious way.
And it works every single time.
And I think because thesecharacters are so relatable, and
I get at least I get so I'mattached to these guys, right?
Like, I.
I want to go hang out withthis group of kids and now I want
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to go hang out with thesegroup of adults.
You see them as adults,they've done interviews.
I'm like, fuck, I want to gochat with these guys because they
still look like they have agood time and bust Jeff Cohen's ass
now, even though he's skinnyas hell.
But it's like, yeah, I just think.
I think what is done in thismovie and it's a.
It's a testament toChristopher Columbus.
Chris Columbus's writing andSteven Spielberg's writing, the fact
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that they have those momentsand they hit so hard that you're
like, yeah, man, go deeperinto the cave.
Like, figure it out.
Like, Goonies never say die.
And the fact that she sends upthat sweater and that, like, I just
love all the back and forththat you can have such a great time,
but then you have momentswhere you're like, oh, man, this
is about a serious thing.
Like, they're in a serioussituation and they're kids and they
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don't get it fully, but we asadults do, right?
So it's interesting.
I love that part of the movie.
That.
And it's just funny.
Like, Mouth sticking histongue through the painting.
It's so disrespectful.
And then the last two weeks, I.
I was always wondered, butit's me, so I'm gonna bring it up.
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I was like, do I haven't bringthis out, but I'm gonna.
Because it's me.
We have two movies now that ifyou think about it, there were some
serious age gap relationships happening.
We had Sandlot, the freaking.
Peppercorn.
Yeah.
Whitney Honeys.
And then there's the.
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Was brand.
Was Brand.
Were you standing in a holelike, she's making out with his little
brother, like, oh, God.
So that's the 80s where.
80s, early 90s, they reallywanted those.
What wouldn't have been likeif you were in your 20s.
It wouldn't have mattered.
But weird.
It's like the great dividewhen you're 13.
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Like 13 and they're 17.
Right.
That just matters in.
In many ways.
Like you're a 14 year old.
You want to be hanging outwith a person in the grade level
where the new your cool neuterdrops by like 50.
Yeah, yeah.
Good old Mikey.
So funny.
I love that he's likestumbling and after.
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Gotta shoot your shot, though.
Yeah, Love it, love it.
So many good moments.
Like, I.
That's.
I could Sit and talk aboutthis one like freaking data.
When he pinches of power.
Pinches of power is thefreaking goofy dental teeth like
save his ass or the boxingglove that hits like knocks them
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back down the hill.
The Fratellis.
Because there's so many stupidmoments that are just so entertaining
and fun and as goofy as they are.
Like in a normal movie thatwould bother me.
Like in this one it doesn'tlike one specifically like Casey
always gives me because he'sthe only one.
Like she doesn't love thismovie because she doesn't, it's not
her kind of thing.
She didn't have this funloving childhood that I can remember.
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And so it's one of thosethings where it's true.
Little drag, just a fun sucker.
She looks is, it goes.
I, I didn't have, have thatkind of fun when I was a kid.
Like we, we did other thingsbut it wasn't that.
And so like I was, I'm alwayslike, yeah, this is so relatable
to me.
But like I don't usually lovemovies that put stupid sound effects
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that don't need to be there.
Like when he hits him with theglove and he shakes his head and
it's like that I, I, I like, Ilike normally that'll piss me off,
but it just makes me laugh inthis movie just because it just doesn't
have a place for it.
Or like when they're on thelog and he squirts the oil on the
tree log and they like doesyou like the really high pitched
noise of them slipping?
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Like to me it just adds valueto this movie because of the extremes,
right?
This little 12 year old JJinside just making his way out, telling
you.
Telling you so funny.
It's great stuff.
And the one liners in this dude.
Oh my gosh, there's just somany of them.
Whether it's funny or serious.
Like I, again I go back to themoment we were talking about with
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Chunk.
Like when they're standingoutside the restaurant, it's locked
and he's like talking aboutthese pictures of his sister and
he just gets more and more,that's it.
They all move as he goesrunning through the door and then
all they do is walk in.
Thanks Chunk.
Walk by his ass or himsmelling and he's like, I smell rocky
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road ice cream.
So yeah, you already mentioned.
What I love is when chunksjust like saying everything.
But I think he, he was finallylike, I'll talk.
One time in third grade Icheated on like my, my history test
or something.
Just like, it just like spoutsoff and it makes me so happy.
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But I mean, there's two.
The most iconic quotes, like,hey, you guys.
And then the one that I.
I love, Cobra Kai.
And I swear they must have gotinspired from Goonies never say die,
because Cobra Kai never dies.
Yeah, the Goonies never die, though.
Like that.
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That's the one that alwayssticks with me because that's.
And hey, you guys are the twothings that comes up every so often
and I'll say it inconversation or something or like,
find a way to weave it in.
And they're the most, like,well known ones, but they're well
known for a reason.
Yeah.
To Alex point.
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Sloth is great.
Sloth.
Sloth love.
Chunk.
Knocks his ass over.
So good.
Baby Ruth.
Like, that's the one that I always.
Baby Ruth.
Oh, so good.
So good.
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But I think.
Go ahead.
I was gonna say one thing Ilike about this movie is the, The.
The practical effects.
I mean, to make Sloth look theway that he did.
And we talked about the.
The ship that they built.
Like, it's.
It's a.
It's a gone air.
You made this movie today.
So much cgi and, like, would it.
Can we do great cgi?
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Yes.
But we've talked about this somany times through the years.
We've gotten lazy where theycan blue screen, green screen things.
And I think because we do thatso much, it's really like, I was
watching a video on Star WarsEpisode 3 when they were doing the
lightsaber battle betweenHayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor
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and like, just incredible.
Like, the fact that they didwhat they did and talked through
it all and moved so far whenthey were just literally looking
at each other and there wasobviously no, I mean, nothing there.
And I get to.
There's a lot of things inmovies where you can't build everything
and make it look like thatbecause we just.
We don't have the stuff inthis earth to make it look like that.
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But I think nowadays we relyso much on it and just say, hey,
go act that.
But I'm trying to transportmyself on people's shoes like that.
If you don't have thosesurroundings and you can't see, like,
man, just makes it hard togenerate those emotions and, like,
the realism.
And like Jay said, the castdidn't see the ship until they literally
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filmed that.
And I'm confident it made thatscene better.
Like, they, especially forchildhood, act like it probably would
have been even harder for themto get into the zone back.
Hey, the ship's right there,but you won't see it till we actually
release the movie because wehave to build it post production.
And that's what I like aboutmovies like Jurassic park and Goonies
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and so many other movies wecould talk about that came out during
this era where they still.
They could do special effects,but they didn't rely upon them.
They use them as an.
Like an accent piece and stillbuilt a lot of the things relied
upon makeup and build the sets.
I think there's power not.
And I wish we would get backto some of that because I think it
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made movies more real andhelped actors get into the zones
that they needed to.
And I think that's part of themagic of this movie because you can
see they built, like, almosteverything on this and it worked
like a look when.
That's part of why it standsup to the test of time.
Because if they did allpredominantly CGI back then, we've
seen movies that relied a loton that back then.
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It obviously looks terrible.
Like the Mummy, for instance.
Just like they should have just.
Should have just tried to makeit without cgi.
And they could have fallen inthe same pitfall in this movie if
they wanted to.
It would have been so easy.
Yeah, it's a long winded wayto say.
Like, I just.
I love that they stay true tothat in this movie.
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And I wish movies today wouldreally think about that again and
be more intentional when andwhere they used it.
But I know it costs a ton ofmoney, but also CGI these days costs
of freaking buku cash.
So, like, I don't know, kindof pick your poison.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a tough one.
I.
I don't know.
Like, but I'm with you.
Like, I think it's great.
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And I think the fact that theywere on that ship and all the different
gold pieces and like, thedifferent, you know, the skeletons
and the.
The stuff that they built andhad there, like, to act around.
And I think, you know, you cantell when something's blue screen
or green screen, like, nomatter what.
Like, in fact, I was watchingthe Last of Us, season two, and they're
walking through Seattle.
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And I understand that, like,you can't have, like, the.
This grand landscape ofSeattle 30 years from now all run
down and overgrown and becausethe world's ended.
But, like, the fact that there was.
There was one scene, and Idon't remember what it was, but they
were standing basically in aroom, and I was like, you really
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put green screen for a room.
It's like you could have builtaspects of the room and then superimpose
the rest of it behind.
Like that's just lazy with you.
It's not even like a big setpiece to build.
Like I'm pretty sure it waslike a couple of desks and some.
I was like, I'll come build itfor you, for crying out loud.
Like Jesus, like the hell it's great.
But you can tell because likeit doesn't look natural, right?
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Like it looks.
And so I love the fact thatthat's one of my favorite parts of.
No matter how bad an old 80sor night early 90s movie is, I love
that I don't look at it andgo, was that green screen?
Like.
Or I look at it and go, that'sgreen screen.
I I go, look, they're in a cave.
You know what I mean?
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Or they're in a, a set that'sbeen made to look like a cave.
And then there's a big ass 105foot ship in a sound stage filled
with water, you know, and thenif you watch a shitty outdoor cut
scene, there's a really crappyoctopus that's, that's nat.
It's actual props and touchingthem on the legs and that they cut
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out because it looked horrible.
But they got to make thosechoices, right?
Whereas the cgi.
The other thing that CGI to medoes is it empowers movies to do
things that they shouldn't.
It was like, oh, we can CGI it.
I would be curious if Goonieswere made today by the same group
of people, would we still havean octopus scene in there?
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Because, oh, we can make a.
And look an octopus with cgi.
When in reality the reason itworked when it cut it is because
it didn't make sense to havethe octopus there.
Like there's no value in that octopus.
One, it looked like, but two,it didn't add to the story.
They've been through enough.
Like they literally just gotdone fighting criminals and dealing
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with a freaking bunch of booby traps.
Booty traps.
That's what I said.
Booty traps.
And like, I mean they justwrote a cool ass water slide.
Like why do I give a about an octopus?
Like just let us see the shipand bask in the awe of that versus
some of that.
So I think that's also atestament to this.
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The geniuses that worked onthis film.
Like, look, you got two of thegreatest writers and filmmakers with
Spielberg and Chris Columbusand then Richard Donner's no slouch
either when it comes to making movies.
And so the level of geniusthere and capability that's there
was.
Is a testament to this movieas well and the choices that they
made.
But yeah, I'm with you.
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Like the practical effectpiece of this movie is.
Is huge because everything'sreal, you know, in some way shape
or form or at least made tolook real.
And I love it.
Such good dialogue.
Like I.
It's one of those movies.
Like I watched it today and Iwas like, I want to watch it again
now because like I just.
Yeah, it just makes me.
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I love it.
And I'm surprised.
This was Josh Brolin's debut film.
Like with his dad being James Brolin.
Like I'm surprised he wasn'tin something before he was an old
ass teenager.
You know what I mean?
Actor.
He is.
I just.
What did I just watch with him?
I love Josh bro.
I can't even.
I love James Brolin.
His dad was hella good too.
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They're.
They're great.
Oh, I was just watchingAmerican Gangster.
Oh, that's what he's.
That's not a movie.
He's a.
He's the star.
But even dude just stealsscenes anyways.
But what a great actor.
What was the movie, Alec?
What was the name?
And maybe I'm just asking youbecause you live in Arizona, but
what's the movie about?
The Prescott firefighters.
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Oh, you know what I'm talking about.
I know what you're talking about.
Like flame jumpers orsomething like that.
I don't remember.
He was only the brave.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
One I served in Scottsdale, soI was a little drive away from Prescott.
I've been to Prescott many times.
I've seen that tree before thefires happened.
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I saw him and it wild likethat story.
So for me, like watching thatmovie is very harrowing because I'm
very familiar with the areaand it like I said had been there
before that fire happened.
But he in that movie.
Oh my God, him and Miles Teller.
Dude so good in that movie.
If you haven't seen it,Matson, you should watch.
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No, I haven't.
It'll gut your ass.
It'll rip you.
Just like.
It's so emotional and hard to watch.
And it's based on a chance.
Hard to watch.
Very difficult story.
Very sad story.
But very like, I don't know,inspiring story in a lot of ways
as well and.
But like it's a tough one.
But Josh Brolin acts the outof that and it's.
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Yeah, very good.
But I love.
He's one of my favorites.
I'll watch that in the next week.
The movie I'm going to bewatching any day now, I've been wanting
to watch.
I've never seen Heat and oh,that movie lately.
Love Heat.
I just recently watched thatwith Casey.
Yeah, you talked about it too.
And I was like, oh, man, Igotta watch that.
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Be prepared to watch it in chunks.
It is a three hour movie.
Yeah, I know it's long, butit's really good.
It's got one of the greatestfight like action sequences in cinematic
history, in my opinion.
But I'm excited, so.
Good.
Anyway, Josh Brolin that.
Add that to the list.
Alec and I were talking about.
And hey, here's.
If you're still listening tothis episode of the podcast, go to
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Patreon and chime in for free,because you can.
But we were.
Alec and I were talking about when.
When you were out of town.
We should do like, we've donea lot of like themed movie months.
We should do like, we've onlydone one actor movie and it was tied
to a sports theme with Kevin Costner.
But like, we were talkingabout we should just do like a Josh
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Brolin month.
And we just do movies thatstar Josh Brolin.
So I would prolin in a heartbeat.
He's got some weird ones likeno country for Old Men.
Good God, what a great movie.
What a great movie that is.
And he was phenomenal in that.
Anyway, Goonies.
I was very happy that I got topick this one.
Should we rate it?
Let's do it.
Okay, Easy.
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Five for me.
No questions.
Like I said, this, this is upthere as one of my favorite movies
of all time.
And I.
I wore this VHS out.
Yes, I had it on VHS becausethat's what I had back then.
I wore this out.
My parents bought me threedifferent versions of this on VHS
because I watched it that muchthat I just wore it out.
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I remember there was a piece when.
When Sloth and Chunk cometearing down the.
The sail and the knife andthey're like, it.
It got fuzzy because the tapewas so.
Because I'd rewind it.
Watch out part because it wasso good.
Anyway, love this movie.
It's a five.
I'll watch it anytime withanyone and it's.
It'll make me feel just ashappy and, and enjoyable as anytime
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that I've ever watched it.
I may enjoy it more as anadult than I did as a kid, if that's
possible.
It's just so good.
So there it is.
Five for me.
Go watch Goonies because it's awesome.
Matson.
Yeah.
This movie is an easy five as well.
Let's.
While it's not.
I don't care.
The.
The weight of nostalgia is.
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Weight's the wrong word.
I wish I.
We have.
We all have our movies likeHeavyweights for me, is that movie
where.
This movie is better thanHeavyweights for sure.
Just in terms of writing andwhat it represents.
But this movie just makes,like I said, transports you back
to your childhood, puts you onan adventure that you wish he had.
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Very quotable.
Stands up through the test of time.
Just like it says Gooniesnever die.
That's right, Alec.
Let's just make it fivesacross the board.
Yeah.
This movie's.
It's not even up there as likekids summer movies.
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Like, it's just up there asgood movies.
Yeah.
And so I'll sit down and I'llwatch Goonies anytime.
100 easy five.
Yeah.
Can I just say one more thingabout it?
At the beginning, I love howwe get introduced, like during that
chase sequence.
Like we see every singlecharacter doing something that's
related to them.
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Like Chunk throwing pizza andShake against the window to watch
the chase Data pulling himselfinto the garbage can.
It's just great.
So get a grit.
And the silly music that goesalong with it.
Love it.
So good.
Joey Pants is one of myfavorite people to watch.
Anyway, there it is.
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Goonies.
Alec, tell everybody wherethey can find us.
Happy to.
So thank you for tuning intoweek four of our Summer movies month.
And we've had a back to backof fives across the board, which
is a rare occurrence in this podcast.
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I think earlier this month Isaid it.
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It is major bragging rights.
There is behind the scenesthrowdowns making fun of retarded
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And so Patreon means a lot to us.
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It's not gonna cost you anything.
But it is bragging rights forlice with us.
And I own June, baby.
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That's right.
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I know.
Shut up.
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But Patreon's place to find us there.
Thank you to CB and Rich Charles.
You guys are amazing.
Thank you for selecting themovies that go in these topics and
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You guys are all that keeps JJsane and in this podcast.
So appreciate you guys.
And with that I will kick itback to the colossus of clout, the
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Maharaja of mash.
A.
JJ that's right.
I'm owning.
I'm owning July, too, just soyou know.
Ah, we'll see how it goes.
Yeah.
So there it is.
As always, we appreciate youtuning in.
We'll catch you on the next one.
Hasta la vista, baby.
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Cinematic.
Oh.
And I've been asked is, youknow, once I got fat Shuffle Shuffle.
Which I've done quite a few times.
Enough alcohol.
Or good friend of mine namedMary Jane.
And I'll definitely truffle shuffle.
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So go check it out with thatweek four of summer movies.
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Summer kickoff movies.
I don't know.
Just summer movies I think is good.
And this week's a doozy.
We're hitting it off with the Goonies.
It was released.
Oh, I missed freaking did my thing.
Look at me looking like a.
Again.
It was released in 1985.
June 7th to be exact.
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In 1985.
It was written by ChristopherColumbus and Steven Spielberg.
It was directed by Richard Donner.
Stars Sean Astin, Josh Brolin,Jeff Cohen, Corey Feldman, Carrie
Green, Martha Plimpton, KihuKwan, John Matusak.
I love that name.
Robert Davy, Joe Pantolianoand Ann Ramsay.
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It's about a group of youngmisfits called the Goonies who discover
an ancient map and set out onan adventure to find a legendary
pirates long lost treasure.
Great synopsis and the factthat you can give a one sentence
synopsis just tells me thatthis movie's great.
I love it.
This was my pick becauseMatson foregoed it for.
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He gave it up because he knew he.
Yeah, he voted too many and sohe chose other three.
So I stole it.
It was on my list to beginwith, but I always let these knuckleheads
choose first, which has beenmuch to my demise a couple of times.
But JJ Scooter, you love ourmovie picks.
No, I'm meeting you guys willpick them and I go God damn it.
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Now I gotta figure somethingelse out for the topic.
So.
So I was happy that this onestayed on it because this may be
my favorite childhood movie ofall time.
It's arguably my favoritechildhood movie of all time.
Sandlot's up there.
But this one I think probablygot watched as much as the Star wars
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saga, which for me, anyonethat knows me, these guys will attest
is that's saying a lot.
So I love this movie.
It's hilarious, it'srelatable, it's wild, it's all over
the place, it's out there,it's ridiculous.
But it's God damn a good time.
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And it's funny and it's justlike, it's just.
Yeah.
Like it's wholesome and it'sfun and I just like relate to it.
Again, we talked about this inthe last podcast, but the hijinks
that I got up to as a kid,like it takes me back to that.
Even though we didn't doanything as ridiculous as go pirate
hunting and run into criminalsand go into caves and.
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But man, we did some dumb.
So it's like, it's just realfun and I just.
Have you been to where theyfilmed a lot of this in Oregon?
I have.
In fact, as you know, there'sa plan to possibly move there at
some point like this.
Astoria, Oregon is where Caseyand I have looked at a lot of properties
there about.
Hey, trying to get JJ move alittle bit More north than that,
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but yeah, a lot closer thanwhere he is.
But I love it there.
The temps are great, theweather's great.
It's perfect for me.
So, yeah, we've been lookingat it, but yeah, I, I love this movie.
I think it's great.
I think it's funny.
I think for a bunch of childactors, they're really good.
And like, it's rare that youget this many child actors that are
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this good in one place.
And it's just, it's fun.
And then.
All right, jg, some trivia for you.
Which, in this, which actor inthis movie and this.
It's not like a, like littleknown actor.
Like which one of these actorsmade their debut in this film?
Debut?
I would have assumed that alot of them, but Sean Aston.
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Not a bad guess.
Jj, I'm gonna say Cohen.
Jeff Cohen.
Close.
It was Joshy Brolin.
Was it really?
Yeah.
Interesting.
I did not know that.
I wouldn't have guessed that.
Thinking of all thesechildhood act that many of them,
I mean, went on to do somevery big thing.
I mean, two of them, JoshBrolin and Sean Asin, are, I mean,
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legendary.
But Kihu Quan, I mean, one ofthe most annoying actors I can think
of, but also one of the most psychotic.
Well, he's.
I love his resurgence.
Like, I will say, I will say,yes, I was about to say his resurgence
has been quite.
But I should say one of the most.
But I, I still.
Dr.
Joe, I mean, he just had the.
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He just had his thing, but youcan't have the movies without it.
But like, when I look at thiscast, I'm like, oh my gosh.
Like, they really, they just,they killed it.
But also, another trivia question.
How do I ask this without.
I mean, I can't.
It's.
It's already, I've alreadykind of given it away.
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But I'm curious, jj, did youknow that the pirate ship in this
film was actually built toscale 105ft?
The cast did not see it untilthey finally shot those scenes.
Yeah, when they turn aroundand it's like, oh, like that was
real reaction.
I know because they did adocumentary or there was some filming
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where they, they did aninterview with a bunch of these guys
and they talked about that.
Yeah.
Not a trivia question, butlast question for you.
What is your favorite chunk scene?
Oh, dude, it's the shuffle shuffle.
Ah, it's so tough though,because the shuffle shuffle's great.
There's three.
I'm gonna.
There has to be three.
The Truffle shuffle when heruns through the door because.
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And then when he knocks overthe water thing and he's like, I
got it, I got it, I don't got it.
Like, I use that line my whole life.
Like, I'll say some.
I'm like, nope, didn't do it.
So, yeah, I can't narrow itdown to one.
But the Truffle shuffle stillto this day makes my fat ass laugh.
Like, I was gonna ask if that was.
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Like, you just resonate withthat in, in ways that I never could.
Well, as an adult, yes.
As a kid, I wasn't fat, so I didn't.
When I was a kid, other than Ihad some fat friends.
And so I was like, well, I'mgonna make them do the truffle shuffle.
But as a fat adult, yeah, Ilove that.
And I've been asked is, youknow, once I got fat, shuffle, shuffle,
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which I've done quite a fewtimes, enough alcohol, or a good
friend of mine named MaryJane, and I'll definitely Truffle
shuffle, no questions.
But yeah, I love Chunk.
He's my favorite.
Speaking of that, one of my.
I don't remember when I cameacross them.
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Probably like five years ago,six years ago.
There's a band that's called Chunk.
No, Captain Chunk.
And they have some of myfavorite songs.
And like a lot of other songsthey started with.
They take out that littlesound bite.
And so I think.
I mean, I think of the Gooniesvery probably.
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I mean, probably almost weeklybecause of that and just makes me
laugh.
But for me, I'm trying toremember when I first saw this.
I saw this movie a lot later.
Probably like early teensmaybe, or like late childhood, something
like that.
My older siblings had seenthis and talked a lot about this
movie.
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This movie falls in line withthe type of movies I like, like Indiana
Jones style.
So, I mean, I love this movie.
I think it's just like a.
A kid version of what I loveabout Indiana Jones in a of a sense.
I don't think it has.
It doesn't carry the nostalgialevel that it has for jj.
If I had seen it even earlieron, or especially growing up with
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that, like, this movie wouldprobably be within my, like top 10
for sure.
But that's not saying thisisn't a good movie.
I just don't have that, like,deep rooted nostalgia feel.
But it's a fun movie.
Like, I mean, just like wetalked about Sandlot the week prior,
like, this movie makes youwant to go back and find that adventure
that you Found that youimagine you're like, man, they actually
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did it.
Granted, I mean, it's notgoing to go that way.
You're not going to findsomeone like Sloth and all those
different things.
But it's great.
Like, I think it justepitomizes what you wish you would
have found as a kid and goneon that journey and beat the bad
guys and experience that as a.
As a friend group and had thatfor the rest of your lives.
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I think it's like the.
The anti it movie because itis like something like that and they
have like the trauma with that.
But this one is like, fun.
And yeah, they're in danger,but, you know, it doesn't ever really
feel like that.
It's the type of childhoodadventure we wish we always had.
Yeah.
Alec, what about you?
I'm always intrigued when wedo older movies because I know you
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love old movies.
I know you love hinky shitlike this.
Like, I do.
And so I'm always curious, butI never know because sometimes you,
like, find things really goofyand then you're like this thing.
So I'm curious.
No, I like the Goonies, but Ilike the weird parts of the Goonies.
Okay.
Like.
Like, Sloth is amazing.
Oh, Sloth's great.
Sloth.
I love Sloth.
Oh, yeah.
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But it's the.
What really, really, thismovie is.
It's like they take childactors, but instead of making them
act like adults, they let himact like kids.
Yeah.
And so like the truffleshuffle and.
Or like, you know, picking onyour fat friend and not letting them
date until he does a couple shuffle.
Yeah.
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Kid thing.
And then, I mean, they justturn it up the entire, you know,
just let the kids loose almost.
And so like another reallyfunny one or funny part of the movie
that I enjoy.
It's not supposed to be funny,but when the Fratelli's have Chunk
and they're trying to make him talk.
Oh, yeah.
Starts telling his life story.
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Yeah.
It's so good.
It feels like Steven Spielberg and.
Or whoever has actually directed.
It's like, hey, just go andjust let Chunk do Chunk.
And so you have this thingwhere they're not trying to force
these child actors to playadult roles.
They just let them act likethey naturally would have as kids.
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And, you know, you got yourbuddies together and you're goofing
off and you're, you know,picking on your older brother or
whatever, ganging up on him.
And so it's.
It's cool in that sense wherethey kind of captured this, you know,
feeling of the kids areallowed to be kids throughout this
movie, and they're not held tosome adult standard while they're
acting.
They're just like, turn on the camera.
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Let's go.
Yeah, that's a good point.
They don't.
They don't make them olderthan they need to be.
Because I've seen some othermovies where you're like, wow, they're
so mature in there, like,which can work in some settings.
But you.
That's what makes this moviegreat, is like, you can identify
who you would be in that groupand kind of relive through that.
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Yeah, I.
And to piggyback on that,Alec, I like to that it makes the
fact that they let them begoofy and silly and carefree and
not understand half the timethe danger that they're actually
in as kids do.
It also makes the.
The very mature and adultmoments that they have as kids that
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more poignant.
Like, one of my favoriteparts, even as a kid and now even
more so as an adult, is whenMouth gives his penny speech in the.
The wishing well part wherehe's like, no, this one's mine, and
I'm taking it back.
Like.
Like, that's one of thosethings where as a kid, like.
And even match it to yourpoint, when we were talking about
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Sandlot, you talk about, I'dlove to go back there and, you know,
be that level of a kid.
Because adulting sucks.
And sometimes we forget thatas an adult, we're like, man, life
is so challenging and we haveso many responsibilities.
That being a kid was so muchmore carefree and fun.
But as kids, we had our ownsets of issues.
Right.
Like, we had our own thingsthat made life difficult.
And especially, like, a groupof kids like this where they're dealing
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with something that they don'tfully understand other than the fact
that they know that they'regoing to have to move and that their
parents are having a hard time.
And, like, so often I don'tthink kids get the credit for how
off.
How much they can see howdifficult it is for their parents
and the struggles that they're having.
And so to watch Mouth havethat moment and then you have, you
know, even, like, every one of them.
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And I think that's anotherthing I love about this movie, is
every one of these kids getsat least a moment.
Right?
Right.
To shine in a comedic way andthen in a serious way.
And it works every single time.
And I think because thesecharacters are so relatable, and
I get at least I get so I'mattached to these guys, right?
Like, I.
I want to go hang out withthis group of kids and now I want
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to go hang out with thesegroup of adults.
You see them as adults,they've done interviews.
I'm like, fuck, I want to gochat with these guys because they
still look like they have agood time and bust Jeff Cohen's ass
now, even though he's skinnyas hell.
But it's like, yeah, I just think.
I think what is done in thismovie and it's a.
It's a testament toChristopher Columbus.
Chris Columbus's writing andSteven Spielberg's writing, the fact
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that they have those momentsand they hit so hard that you're
like, yeah, man, go deeperinto the cave.
Like, figure it out.
Like, Goonies never say die.
And the fact that she sends upthat sweater and that, like, I just
love all the back and forththat you can have such a great time,
but then you have momentswhere you're like, oh, man, this
is about a serious thing.
Like, they're in a serioussituation and they're kids and they
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don't get it fully, but we asadults do, right?
So it's interesting.
I love that part of the movie.
That.
And it's just funny.
Like, Mouth sticking histongue through the painting.
It's so disrespectful.
And then the last two weeks, I.
I was always wondered, butit's me, so I'm gonna bring it up.
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I was like, do I haven't bringthis out, but I'm gonna.
Because it's me.
We have two movies now that ifyou think about it, there were some
serious age gap relationships happening.
We had Sandlot, the freaking.
Peppercorn.
Yeah.
Whitney Honeys.
And then there's the.
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Was brand.
Was Brand.
Were you standing in a holelike, she's making out with his little
brother, like, oh, God.
So that's the 80s where.
80s, early 90s, they reallywanted those.
What wouldn't have been likeif you were in your 20s.
It wouldn't have mattered.
But weird.
It's like the great dividewhen you're 13.
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Like 13 and they're 17.
Right.
That just matters in.
In many ways.
Like you're a 14 year old.
You want to be hanging outwith a person in the grade level
where the new your cool neuterdrops by like 50.
Yeah, yeah.
Good old Mikey.
So funny.
I love that he's likestumbling and after.
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Gotta shoot your shot, though.
Yeah, Love it, love it.
So many good moments.
Like, I.
That's.
I could Sit and talk aboutthis one like freaking data.
When he pinches of power.
Pinches of power is thefreaking goofy dental teeth like
save his ass or the boxingglove that hits like knocks them
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back down the hill.
The Fratellis.
Because there's so many stupidmoments that are just so entertaining
and fun and as goofy as they are.
Like in a normal movie thatwould bother me.
Like in this one it doesn'tlike one specifically like Casey
always gives me because he'sthe only one.
Like she doesn't love thismovie because she doesn't, it's not
her kind of thing.
She didn't have this funloving childhood that I can remember.
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And so it's one of thosethings where it's true.
Little drag, just a fun sucker.
She looks is, it goes.
I, I didn't have, have thatkind of fun when I was a kid.
Like we, we did other thingsbut it wasn't that.
And so like I was, I'm alwayslike, yeah, this is so relatable
to me.
But like I don't usually lovemovies that put stupid sound effects
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that don't need to be there.
Like when he hits him with theglove and he shakes his head and
it's like that I, I, I like, Ilike normally that'll piss me off,
but it just makes me laugh inthis movie just because it just doesn't
have a place for it.
Or like when they're on thelog and he squirts the oil on the
tree log and they like doesyou like the really high pitched
noise of them slipping?
(18:19):
Like to me it just adds valueto this movie because of the extremes,
right?
This little 12 year old JJinside just making his way out, telling
you.
Telling you so funny.
It's great stuff.
And the one liners in this dude.
Oh my gosh, there's just somany of them.
Whether it's funny or serious.
Like I, again I go back to themoment we were talking about with
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Chunk.
Like when they're standingoutside the restaurant, it's locked
and he's like talking aboutthese pictures of his sister and
he just gets more and more,that's it.
They all move as he goesrunning through the door and then
all they do is walk in.
Thanks Chunk.
Walk by his ass or himsmelling and he's like, I smell rocky
(19:05):
road ice cream.
So yeah, you already mentioned.
What I love is when chunksjust like saying everything.
But I think he, he was finallylike, I'll talk.
One time in third grade Icheated on like my, my history test
or something.
Just like, it just like spoutsoff and it makes me so happy.
(19:27):
But I mean, there's two.
The most iconic quotes, like,hey, you guys.
And then the one that I.
I love, Cobra Kai.
And I swear they must have gotinspired from Goonies never say die,
because Cobra Kai never dies.
Yeah, the Goonies never die, though.
Like that.
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That's the one that alwayssticks with me because that's.
And hey, you guys are the twothings that comes up every so often
and I'll say it inconversation or something or like,
find a way to weave it in.
And they're the most, like,well known ones, but they're well
known for a reason.
Yeah.
To Alex point.
(20:07):
Sloth is great.
Sloth.
Sloth love.
Chunk.
Knocks his ass over.
So good.
Baby Ruth.
Like, that's the one that I always.
Baby Ruth.
Oh, so good.
So good.
(20:27):
But I think.
Go ahead.
I was gonna say one thing Ilike about this movie is the, The.
The practical effects.
I mean, to make Sloth look theway that he did.
And we talked about the.
The ship that they built.
Like, it's.
It's a.
It's a gone air.
You made this movie today.
So much cgi and, like, would it.
Can we do great cgi?
(20:48):
Yes.
But we've talked about this somany times through the years.
We've gotten lazy where theycan blue screen, green screen things.
And I think because we do thatso much, it's really like, I was
watching a video on Star WarsEpisode 3 when they were doing the
lightsaber battle betweenHayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor
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and like, just incredible.
Like, the fact that they didwhat they did and talked through
it all and moved so far whenthey were just literally looking
at each other and there wasobviously no, I mean, nothing there.
And I get to.
There's a lot of things inmovies where you can't build everything
and make it look like thatbecause we just.
We don't have the stuff inthis earth to make it look like that.
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But I think nowadays we relyso much on it and just say, hey,
go act that.
But I'm trying to transportmyself on people's shoes like that.
If you don't have thosesurroundings and you can't see, like,
man, just makes it hard togenerate those emotions and, like,
the realism.
And like Jay said, the castdidn't see the ship until they literally
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filmed that.
And I'm confident it made thatscene better.
Like, they, especially forchildhood, act like it probably would
have been even harder for themto get into the zone back.
Hey, the ship's right there,but you won't see it till we actually
release the movie because wehave to build it post production.
And that's what I like aboutmovies like Jurassic park and Goonies
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and so many other movies wecould talk about that came out during
this era where they still.
They could do special effects,but they didn't rely upon them.
They use them as an.
Like an accent piece and stillbuilt a lot of the things relied
upon makeup and build the sets.
I think there's power not.
And I wish we would get backto some of that because I think it
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made movies more real andhelped actors get into the zones
that they needed to.
And I think that's part of themagic of this movie because you can
see they built, like, almosteverything on this and it worked
like a look when.
That's part of why it standsup to the test of time.
Because if they did allpredominantly CGI back then, we've
seen movies that relied a loton that back then.
(22:57):
It obviously looks terrible.
Like the Mummy, for instance.
Just like they should have just.
Should have just tried to makeit without cgi.
And they could have fallen inthe same pitfall in this movie if
they wanted to.
It would have been so easy.
Yeah, it's a long winded wayto say.
Like, I just.
I love that they stay true tothat in this movie.
(23:17):
And I wish movies today wouldreally think about that again and
be more intentional when andwhere they used it.
But I know it costs a ton ofmoney, but also CGI these days costs
of freaking buku cash.
So, like, I don't know, kindof pick your poison.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a tough one.
I.
I don't know.
Like, but I'm with you.
Like, I think it's great.
(23:37):
And I think the fact that theywere on that ship and all the different
gold pieces and like, thedifferent, you know, the skeletons
and the.
The stuff that they built andhad there, like, to act around.
And I think, you know, you cantell when something's blue screen
or green screen, like, nomatter what.
Like, in fact, I was watchingthe Last of Us, season two, and they're
walking through Seattle.
(23:58):
And I understand that, like,you can't have, like, the.
This grand landscape ofSeattle 30 years from now all run
down and overgrown and becausethe world's ended.
But, like, the fact that there was.
There was one scene, and Idon't remember what it was, but they
were standing basically in aroom, and I was like, you really
(24:20):
put green screen for a room.
It's like you could have builtaspects of the room and then superimpose
the rest of it behind.
Like that's just lazy with you.
It's not even like a big setpiece to build.
Like I'm pretty sure it waslike a couple of desks and some.
I was like, I'll come build itfor you, for crying out loud.
Like Jesus, like the hell it's great.
But you can tell because likeit doesn't look natural, right?
(24:44):
Like it looks.
And so I love the fact thatthat's one of my favorite parts of.
No matter how bad an old 80sor night early 90s movie is, I love
that I don't look at it andgo, was that green screen?
Like.
Or I look at it and go, that'sgreen screen.
I I go, look, they're in a cave.
You know what I mean?
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Or they're in a, a set that'sbeen made to look like a cave.
And then there's a big ass 105foot ship in a sound stage filled
with water, you know, and thenif you watch a shitty outdoor cut
scene, there's a really crappyoctopus that's, that's nat.
It's actual props and touchingthem on the legs and that they cut
(25:26):
out because it looked horrible.
But they got to make thosechoices, right?
Whereas the cgi.
The other thing that CGI to medoes is it empowers movies to do
things that they shouldn't.
It was like, oh, we can CGI it.
I would be curious if Goonieswere made today by the same group
of people, would we still havean octopus scene in there?
(25:50):
Because, oh, we can make a.
And look an octopus with cgi.
When in reality the reason itworked when it cut it is because
it didn't make sense to havethe octopus there.
Like there's no value in that octopus.
One, it looked like, but two,it didn't add to the story.
They've been through enough.
Like they literally just gotdone fighting criminals and dealing
(26:12):
with a freaking bunch of booby traps.
Booty traps.
That's what I said.
Booty traps.
And like, I mean they justwrote a cool ass water slide.
Like why do I give a about an octopus?
Like just let us see the shipand bask in the awe of that versus
some of that.
So I think that's also atestament to this.
(26:32):
The geniuses that worked onthis film.
Like, look, you got two of thegreatest writers and filmmakers with
Spielberg and Chris Columbusand then Richard Donner's no slouch
either when it comes to making movies.
And so the level of geniusthere and capability that's there
was.
Is a testament to this movieas well and the choices that they
made.
But yeah, I'm with you.
(26:53):
Like the practical effectpiece of this movie is.
Is huge because everything'sreal, you know, in some way shape
or form or at least made tolook real.
And I love it.
Such good dialogue.
Like I.
It's one of those movies.
Like I watched it today and Iwas like, I want to watch it again
now because like I just.
Yeah, it just makes me.
(27:14):
I love it.
And I'm surprised.
This was Josh Brolin's debut film.
Like with his dad being James Brolin.
Like I'm surprised he wasn'tin something before he was an old
ass teenager.
You know what I mean?
Actor.
He is.
I just.
What did I just watch with him?
I love Josh bro.
I can't even.
I love James Brolin.
His dad was hella good too.
(27:34):
They're.
They're great.
Oh, I was just watchingAmerican Gangster.
Oh, that's what he's.
That's not a movie.
He's a.
He's the star.
But even dude just stealsscenes anyways.
But what a great actor.
What was the movie, Alec?
What was the name?
And maybe I'm just asking youbecause you live in Arizona, but
what's the movie about?
The Prescott firefighters.
(27:56):
Oh, you know what I'm talking about.
I know what you're talking about.
Like flame jumpers orsomething like that.
I don't remember.
He was only the brave.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
One I served in Scottsdale, soI was a little drive away from Prescott.
I've been to Prescott many times.
I've seen that tree before thefires happened.
(28:17):
I saw him and it wild likethat story.
So for me, like watching thatmovie is very harrowing because I'm
very familiar with the areaand it like I said had been there
before that fire happened.
But he in that movie.
Oh my God, him and Miles Teller.
Dude so good in that movie.
If you haven't seen it,Matson, you should watch.
(28:38):
No, I haven't.
It'll gut your ass.
It'll rip you.
Just like.
It's so emotional and hard to watch.
And it's based on a chance.
Hard to watch.
Very difficult story.
Very sad story.
But very like, I don't know,inspiring story in a lot of ways
as well and.
But like it's a tough one.
But Josh Brolin acts the outof that and it's.
(29:02):
Yeah, very good.
But I love.
He's one of my favorites.
I'll watch that in the next week.
The movie I'm going to bewatching any day now, I've been wanting
to watch.
I've never seen Heat and oh,that movie lately.
Love Heat.
I just recently watched thatwith Casey.
Yeah, you talked about it too.
And I was like, oh, man, Igotta watch that.
(29:23):
Be prepared to watch it in chunks.
It is a three hour movie.
Yeah, I know it's long, butit's really good.
It's got one of the greatestfight like action sequences in cinematic
history, in my opinion.
But I'm excited, so.
Good.
Anyway, Josh Brolin that.
Add that to the list.
Alec and I were talking about.
And hey, here's.
If you're still listening tothis episode of the podcast, go to
(29:45):
Patreon and chime in for free,because you can.
But we were.
Alec and I were talking about when.
When you were out of town.
We should do like, we've donea lot of like themed movie months.
We should do like, we've onlydone one actor movie and it was tied
to a sports theme with Kevin Costner.
But like, we were talkingabout we should just do like a Josh
(30:07):
Brolin month.
And we just do movies thatstar Josh Brolin.
So I would prolin in a heartbeat.
He's got some weird ones likeno country for Old Men.
Good God, what a great movie.
What a great movie that is.
And he was phenomenal in that.
Anyway, Goonies.
I was very happy that I got topick this one.
Should we rate it?
Let's do it.
Okay, Easy.
(30:28):
Five for me.
No questions.
Like I said, this, this is upthere as one of my favorite movies
of all time.
And I.
I wore this VHS out.
Yes, I had it on VHS becausethat's what I had back then.
I wore this out.
My parents bought me threedifferent versions of this on VHS
because I watched it that muchthat I just wore it out.
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I remember there was a piece when.
When Sloth and Chunk cometearing down the.
The sail and the knife andthey're like, it.
It got fuzzy because the tapewas so.
Because I'd rewind it.
Watch out part because it wasso good.
Anyway, love this movie.
It's a five.
I'll watch it anytime withanyone and it's.
It'll make me feel just ashappy and, and enjoyable as anytime
(31:12):
that I've ever watched it.
I may enjoy it more as anadult than I did as a kid, if that's
possible.
It's just so good.
So there it is.
Five for me.
Go watch Goonies because it's awesome.
Matson.
Yeah.
This movie is an easy five as well.
Let's.
While it's not.
I don't care.
The.
The weight of nostalgia is.
(31:34):
Weight's the wrong word.
I wish I.
We have.
We all have our movies likeHeavyweights for me, is that movie
where.
This movie is better thanHeavyweights for sure.
Just in terms of writing andwhat it represents.
But this movie just makes,like I said, transports you back
to your childhood, puts you onan adventure that you wish he had.
(31:54):
Very quotable.
Stands up through the test of time.
Just like it says Gooniesnever die.
That's right, Alec.
Let's just make it fivesacross the board.
Yeah.
This movie's.
It's not even up there as likekids summer movies.
(32:15):
Like, it's just up there asgood movies.
Yeah.
And so I'll sit down and I'llwatch Goonies anytime.
100 easy five.
Yeah.
Can I just say one more thingabout it?
At the beginning, I love howwe get introduced, like during that
chase sequence.
Like we see every singlecharacter doing something that's
related to them.
(32:35):
Like Chunk throwing pizza andShake against the window to watch
the chase Data pulling himselfinto the garbage can.
It's just great.
So get a grit.
And the silly music that goesalong with it.
Love it.
So good.
Joey Pants is one of myfavorite people to watch.
Anyway, there it is.
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Goonies.
Alec, tell everybody wherethey can find us.
Happy to.
So thank you for tuning intoweek four of our Summer movies month.
And we've had a back to backof fives across the board, which
is a rare occurrence in this podcast.
Ever since Matson came back,Patreon's the place to get involved
(33:21):
with content.
I mentioned a couple timesbefore, but like we said earlier,
I think earlier this month Isaid it.
This voting means a lot to usto have our movies picked.
It is major bragging rights.
There is behind the scenesthrowdowns making fun of retarded
(33:41):
stupid movies that people putin here.
And so Patreon means a lot to us.
Go vote.
It's not gonna cost you anything.
But it is bragging rights forlice with us.
And I own June, baby.
And J.J.
owns June.
That's right.
For the first time.
I know.
Shut up.
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But Patreon's place to find us there.
Thank you to CB and Rich Charles.
You guys are amazing.
Thank you for selecting themovies that go in these topics and
for selecting topics for us.
You guys are all that keeps JJsane and in this podcast.
So appreciate you guys.
And with that I will kick itback to the colossus of clout, the
(34:26):
Maharaja of mash.
A.
JJ that's right.
I'm owning.
I'm owning July, too, just soyou know.
Ah, we'll see how it goes.
Yeah.
So there it is.
As always, we appreciate youtuning in.
We'll catch you on the next one.
Hasta la vista, baby.
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Cinematic.
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