April 16, 2024 • 39 mins
Period of Change
Undergoing a period of change: I had surgery, I got published and I went on vacation. Plenty of new music reviews in this episode.
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Shout outs
https://twitter.com/MarchandsPetRat/status/1779926937177358503
Shout outs to Marchandspetrat, hockey s-poster living with MS
Shout outs to Rocky, Cousin Eric
Gotta write up questions
Nerve Bumps (A Queer Divine Dissatisfaction) by Dax Pierson
Upcoming interview subject Dax Pierson
Shout outs to the Sandman who turned me on to James Wavey Snowy Beach, which was added recently at KFJC.
Psychedelic hip-hop from San Francisco
James Wavey Snowy Beach by James Wavey
Publication Dream Comes True
I was accepted on a piece of writing, and for the first time I made a signed agreement. Follow JWH Live! to hear more about the writing.
In the days before surgery
In the run-up to surgery, in a lot of trigeminal neuralgia pain, I increased my dosage and I felt like it was too much. Trying to even things out, I reduced by 25% overall, and it helped return me to the land of the living.
No coffee, no ibuprofen.
On a day when I would usually be recording, I went to the hospital to have surgery, my third RF Rhizotomy and fifth neurosurgery on my trigeminal nerve overall. I had two MVD (microvascular decompression) surgeries to begin with. Recovery is much easier with rhizotomy. MVD literally bores a hole in your skull, and it takes a lot of recuperation to heal. Hospital stay from rhizotomy can be as short as a few hours.
New tunes
In advance of surgery, maybe to take my mind off it, or to give myself something to look forward to, I bought some tunes.
Opera Glossolalia
Spontaneous Musical Invention by Thomas Buckner sings Robert Ashley
Robert Ashley is a composer of 1980s opera. There's a lot of talking in the libretto. The gatefold record comes with a cool book with photos. I really like the Recital label because they have interesting packaging. The record is one of 350.
Instructions?
Whiplash by Asha Sheshadri
This record is like sound art, but at the same time it's a record. I'Layered, specific, related to site. Like getting a bunch of jumbled-up instructions for a treasure hunt, cryptic. Edition of 200.
Chewing Gqom
The Gqom Trilogy by DJ Scriby // DJ Marillo // DJ Skothan //
Gqom is known for its beats which have a minimal, raw and repetitive sound with heavy bass. It is mainly described as having a dark and hypnotic club sound. The style of beats does not use the four-on-the-floor rhythm pattern which is often heard in other house music.
"Gqom" Wikipedia article
Digging this record - I'm new to Gqom, but I like it. The release is by three different DJs, a triple EP.
Drunk in Love by Elvin Brandhi & Lord Spikeheart
This is far out. File under extreme vocal performances. The feeling is metal, but the sound is electronic. Tense, spastic. Questionable in a good way, challenging material.
Numb
Now I'm back from surgery and my face feels different. Talking and eating and I'm sure other things that I'm not noticing are affected. Familiar disassociation after surgery.
It's a matter of deciding how I feel about the things that are different. First, I have to accept them.
Updating the map
After surgery, it takes time for my body to properly calculate changes in sensation, and adjust the body's size map accordingly.
In tune
The piano is tuned
Out on my own
Drove to Oakland by myself and went to a couple of friend's houses for about 3 and 1/2 hours. It was the first time in 16 months.
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(00:00):
- A lot of things are happening.
A lot of things going down. Good stuff.
Good stuff is happening.
Good things going down all around.
Thank you for tuning intothe, what's the matter
with me podcast.
I had surgery, I went on vacation.
(00:23):
I'm about to become a published author.
You are tuned into the What'sthe Matter with me podcast.
My name is John. I'm 44 years old.
Husband, father of two,small business owner,
radio DJ, podcaster.
(00:44):
I have multiple sclerosistrigeminal neuralgia.
And I made this podcast toshare what I'm going through.
Thank you for tuning in.
It's, what's the matterwith me time, y'all? Okay.
Surgery, vacation, published.
Oh, hey, first of all, subscribers,
(01:05):
get the selfie for as long as we all live.
It's a lifetime subscription.
It reminds me, I gotta take a selfie.
I always forget to like comb my hair
and do the obvious stuff.
And I'm like, okay, let's photograph,
(01:26):
let me photograph myself.
Think my glasses areall dirty. Oh, popping
- Hot sauce.
It's the best hot saucehopping. Hot sauce.
It's the best sauce inthe world. The world.
I'm telling you,
- That mission that I began a few episodes
(01:49):
back is happening.
Yeah, so I've been talkingabout publishing poetry
on the podcast since like 2021,
maybe before even.
But I, I specifically in the, in the,
(02:10):
can You Eat Blood episodefrom Thanksgiving.
In that episode, I give a shout out to Joe
and he's like my load star of copying Joe
out of, out of juvenile competitiveness
and says here in, uh,the right off the top
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of Can you Eat Blood?
I'm talking about Joe.
I say, Joe played guitarin my high school band
and now he's a published poet.
So that, that's somethingI'm trying to emulate.
Anyway, it's gonna happen soon
since we were all sittingaround eating blood.
That's, that's when I decided, yeah,
(02:57):
glasses are dirty.
So, so what do you gotta say about it?
What do you think about it?
What are you going to do about it?
Uh, what do you, let'sgive some shout outs.
I want to give a shout out to Marsh
Marans Pet Rat.
This dude is a hockey,what do they call it?
(03:22):
A hockey s poster. Self-described.
I'm a hockey s poster, andhe was diagnosed with ms
and he has to wear an eye patch.
He's having trouble with his eye.
And, uh, so me too,man, I'm having trouble
with having dry eye
(03:44):
and so through all this health stuff.
And so I, I was like, oh man,I, I started writing him.
I was like, it's a long slog. You know?
He, he kind of startedposting about having MS
and also about hockey, able to check out
(04:05):
a weird culture of people on Twitter who
kind of say meaningless,
provocative things abouthockey, not hockey,
but really close to hockey is rocky
Shout outs to Rocky.
That's boxing.
(04:26):
Boxing, differentdifferent sport shout outs
to cousin Eric and Tracy.
We went to Sacramento on ourvacation. We'll get into it.
Wanna give a shout out to Dax Pearson?
Dax agreed to let me email him
(04:49):
and I'm kind of laggingon writing the questions.
I've been listening to his newest record,
which is on dark entries
and it's called Nerve Bumps,
A Queer Divine Dissatisfaction.
He's a disabled artist andmusician, kind of like me.
(05:12):
So I was like, oh, let me interview you.
So coming and he agreed.
So coming up, I'll ask, I'll ask
Dax about some of his story
and what he's doing.
Find out what's up with him.
Also going to give ashout out to the Sandman.
(05:34):
The Sandman had a music contribution.
He sent me the band camp for James
Wavy, the San Francisco,
San Francisco dude, I guess they added it
on KFJC and Sandmans over there.
(05:56):
He said, Hey, we got thisnew one. Check it out.
It was pretty cool. I listened to it.
I want, I gave you a couplelistens, but I need some more.
James Wavy, snowy Beach is the name
of the tape, and you canhear it on Band Camp.
You can buy the digital album.Pretty interesting stuff.
(06:19):
He's a rapper, but more like experimental,
pushing at the kind of pre
preconceived boundaries of being a rapper.
Cool and interesting. Maybehe could be a published poet.
I think maybe he could pull it off.
(06:43):
James Wavy, snowy Beach on Bang Camp.
I'll put that link. SoI, I had surgery, um,
two weeks ago now, andI had to go off coffee
and ibuprofen.
I was in a lot of pain,um, prior to the surgery.
(07:04):
And I doubled, I doubled the dosage.
I doubled my dosage of what I was taking.
So it was like making me azombie. It was pretty bad.
And so then I just kindof cut out a quarter.
So I was like at 175%.
(07:28):
I was taking so many pills, I think
three times a day, twodifferent medications,
just a lot of it.
And I was off coffee.
I, I had to bring in the coffee,
but, so I reduced that double medication
and it returned me somewhat
(07:50):
to the land of the living.
It was pretty tough. I wasalways in my wheelchair.
Even in my house.
I, I, you know, whenyou stand up, you, um,
fire your different muscle groups,
you know, your quads, your glutes,
(08:11):
and your abs kind of stabilized your core.
So when I was on so much nerve,
the medication I wastaking, it's like anti
epilepsy seizure medication
because I'm having nerve pain.
(08:31):
So it would just like suppress my nerves
and my brain, my central nervous system.
Everything suppressed.
And so it was hard tomake these muscle groups
contract and work together.
And I have weakness on my rightside and my leg and my arm.
(08:54):
So when I stood up, Iwas like so drugged out.
I had to like, pull myself up.
Like even to get up from mydesk chair, I had to use my arm,
my left arm to like pullmyself up onto the desk
and almost with my stomach on the desk.
(09:15):
And then I got my cane.
So it was like my armwas doing a lot of work
that my right leg and myright glutes and quads
and abs weren't firing.
So I was falling really often.
It was hard to get up inthe middle of all that.
(09:38):
I was accepted on a piece of writing
and I signed an an for the first time.
I had a signed agreement.
And so the, that will,
that'll come about soon.
But I, I did DocuSign.
I was like, I'm gonna publishthis thing. It's official.
(10:03):
So on the day when I wouldusually be recording two weeks
ago, I had surgery, my third
RF Rise autotomy in advance of surgery.
I bought some tunes, some music.
I had to like, givemyself a reason to live.
(10:24):
I bought Drunken Love by Elvin Brandy
and Lord Spike Heart.
And that is a weird, uh, album.
I like it, it reminds me ofa band I was in in college.
It's called Hammer and thRock with my buddy Anthony.
And it is just like experimental, far,
(10:46):
far out dance music, kind
of this stuff.
You know, we don'tcompare to this nowadays.
This this is kid stuff, oven Brandy
and Spike Heart Oven.
Brandy is from Whales Ni Nairobi,
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rapper, producer, Nairobibased rapper, producer,
Lord Spike Heart.
So they had some weird, pretty good music.
I, I enjoy it. And thenI got the G Trilogy
by DJ Rivy, DJ Marillo
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and DJ Scoffing.
So this is just somefar out electronic music
from Durbin Durbin's,
highly influential Gumm sound.
Three separate artistsfrom South Africa's fertile
musical landscape.
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A fresh wave of gumm innovation.
So I got some tunes,spontaneous musical invention
that came out on recital.
And I'm a sucker forall the recital records
releases that have books.
And like this is a double LP edition
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of three 50, a 24 page booklet
of libretto scores, programnotes, introduction, written
by Alvin Lucier.
So got anyway, got myself some tunes
'cause I'm like, I'm gonnacome back from surgery.
So I this, when I cameback from surgery, I, I,
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I made a note back from surgery
and my face feels differenttalking and eating
and I'm sure other things thatI'm not noticing or affected,
but that's always true.
It's a matter of decidinghow I feel about the things
that are different.
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But first I have to accept them.
So my face felt numband it still feels numb.
It feels different like it day.
That's kind of the scary part.
'cause I'm like, okay, when isthis numbness gonna wear off
and it's gonna really hurt.
That's kind of, I have tolive there and be there
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and you know, this is myfifth time having surgery.
So they drilled the holein the back of my head
and then had another surgery there.
Then this one that I justhad was the third time in
through the front of my face.
It's an RF rises outta me.
But instead of keeping me awake
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and like a electrocuting my face,
they put me under general anesthesia
and made a, a lot of numbness.
Like, it's like when I'm in the shower
and I lean my head back
and look up, it's like I have half a head,
I have half a mouth, Ihave one eye, one nostril,
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you know, it's like half a chin.
So I'm like learning how totalk and have diction and you,
and say words like graduation and diction.
They're, they're hard words to say
when you have just, I'm like kind
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of permanently at the dentist's office.
But I think I hit onsomething in that note.
I, I made, it's a matter of deciding
how I feel about thethings that are different.
And first I have to accept them
and I think I, I did,I'm doing okay with that.
(14:46):
You know, every time I try
and talk, this is the firsttime I'm trying to speak for
an extended period of time.
Thanks for tuning into whatthe matter with me podcast.
But I eat, you know, and,
and eating was pretty hardto figure out at first.
(15:07):
I was kind of chewing on my molders.
It's still kind of, I'mlearning every time.
It's like, oh, I can eat like that,
but I'm having, I'm not in pain.
I'm having some very like, almost like
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ants on the skin sensation.
It's hard to, but it's not painful
and it's only intermittent.
It only happens now
and again, something that I notice is,
and you know, it's not my first rodeo, so
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I've noticed your body, your brain
has like a body size map in your head
and it recalculates it.
It takes time to like
if your mouth is numb, right?
When it becomes numb, it feels huge
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and then it gets smaller and smaller.
Your brain redraws the size map
and if you can only feelon one half of your mouth,
well then it draws infor your whole mouth,
that one half, you know,so you're, it kind of
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changes sensation.
So I had surgery and then thenext day I went on vacation
and it's like I said, theygo in through the face
and then you wake up with a bandaid on.
That's it. Nothing,nothing hurts. It was numb.
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So I went on vacation.
So let's see, I had surgery, I had surgery
four days later I had um, infusion
where they gave me my MS medication.
And the day after that, it was Tuesday
of spring break, we wenton a family road trip.
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It was pretty cool. So the first night
we went to the Manteca
water slides at the GreatWolf Lodge in Manteca.
And it's like this child resort
and it's full of children screaming
and splashing
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and that there's a waterarea, a whole water park area
and it's all inside.
It seems unhealthy but it'slike there's water slide.
So the kids were in, I waslike, take me to the bar.
But I was feeling a littlebit better at that point,
you know, I had had surgery,I reducing medication
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so that reducing both medications.
So they had a placecalled the watering hole
and they served some,they had a whiskey sour,
I had a whiskey sour there.
The kids were went all around going nuts.
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I went to the bed andslept. We go to a DA room.
So it's like rural in shower
and how far is this place,Manteca from where we live,
that was part of this vacation idea.
Things needed to benot too hard of travel,
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but I wanted to go on likea road trip with the kids
and go to like a few different places.
But I wanted to have it be accessible.
So we were like, forgetAirbnb and all that.
We're going to use a hotel
because they'll be a DA set up
for the a DA.
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It's an hour and 45 minutes from here,
about 60 miles due east.
So we had breakfast here.
We didn't stress too hard,
but I was telling the kids, youknow, get your teeth brushed
'cause we gotta go to the waterpark.
So they had waterpark,they had a, a climbing,
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huge climbing structure.
The kids loved that. Itook pictures of them.
I rolled around the thing inmy wheelchair taking pictures
of them as they got higher and higher.
My wife did it. So the family's got guts.
It was cool. They had avideo arcade, they had some
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restaurant with locallysourced ingredients.
I was like, no way.
So a lot of it is they get youin the door and then they try
and sell you like a $45 ribeye.
And I was like, I'm not doing that.
So we went to Mexican food inManteca and it was awesome.
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It's like we were on a roadtrip. They have in Manteca.
The kids really loved it
because it was this part
of our vacation the firstnight was really oriented.
And the next beginning
and the next day really oriented for them.
They have, you know, it'slike in a nice resort,
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you think there's a storewith, with fancy watches
and handbags and stuff.
But at this resort there's acandy store with a whole wall
of different jelly beans.
So that's what's going on here.
It's a kid resort
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and it's like a, um,
the Great Wolf Lodge is the chain.
They have one in Arizona and Scottsdale.
So you know, but it from here an hour
and 45 minutes east.
And then the next daywe went to Sacramento.
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We stayed in at EmbassySuites, Sacramento,
riverfront, front promenade,close to Old Sack.
You know, I love Old Sack. Sowe were there for two nights.
We went to the hotel bar.
There was something wrong with the room.
One of the a DA bars wasn'tanchored into the wall.
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So like one of the first thingsI did was roll over there,
try and get up on it andpull it all out the wall
and none of the screws were anchored.
So I'm like, what's going on here?
We called down at the desk
and they had engineeringcrew go in there and fix it.
It took a couple hours.
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But that's the kinda thing,like if that had happened at an
Airbnb and stuff like thathas happened to me at, at
one of these kinda non-hotel type places.
It can take a long timeto get the concierge
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to get the um, people together.
And you have, I have kidsso I can't really spend all
that time doing it.
So my cousin Eric
and Tracy, they live in Sacramento.
We met my cousin Eric in Lotus, California
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and we went on awheelchair accessible hike
in the Dave Moore nature area.
The hike down to the beachwas wheelchair accessible.
'cause then Eric told me, wehit it, it's pretty sketchy.
I'd like to get sketchy.
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This was pretty sketchy,
but we could get all the waydown to the beach where the
American river waterfront was.
And and the kids enjoyed it.
They have this rock formationthere, the mushroom rock,
the mushroom rock.
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And it's just a bigold weird looking rock.
You're like, what happened?
Usually a rock is pretty solid,but something happened here.
It was kind of an oldtrail with stone walls.
Somebody laid stone wallsto get it down to the beach.
But there were big rutsand branches falling down.
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So it was kind of sketchygetting down there.
Once we had figured it out,we going back up was easier
on family vacations.
I always find myself onthese wheelchair accessible
or these trails in my wheelchair
and the wheelchair is likesliding around in there
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because it's not quite graded.
Something that wasgraded and overall safer
because it was inside.
We went to the Crocker Art Museum
that Crocker was the general council
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for the railroad andhe had this immense for
and all these goods
from all over the world.
Then his house was donated
as an an art mu as theArt Museum of Sacramento.
They have the house, they built a modern
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wing edition.
And so the old house is really ornate wood
and tile floors and these treasures.
And then the new part.
So the, the house dates from 1872
and the new wing opened in 2010.
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They got Japanese ceramics in their
pre-Colombian sculpture.
Cool stuff. I like the museum.
I have a good time there
'cause I think it's kind ofone of the more interesting,
the art museums that I've been
to in America, for sure.
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Painting by Hung Lou passed away.
She was, um, an instructorfor my wife at Mills College.
We went through the old house.
They have these wonderful
tiles on the floor in the entryway.
Super impressive tile work.
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Wood, the doors, everything super
ornate in the old house.
We loved it. And then in the basement,
there's a children's creativity area.
You know, my kids had fun
climbing all over indifferent colored tape
and stuff like that.
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Then we went back and watched Con Air
and my, my wife enjoyed Con Air.
We watched uh, a um,
like a TV edit of Con Air.
It was on like TNT orwhatever, USA or something.
And so we watched it in thehotel room 'cause we were tired
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after they were the fish andchips at the Bonney there
and then the art museum.
And we were just like,I don't want to go out.
Like, so we just hung out in there
and watched Con Air that we liked a lot
just because it was like,oh, he's, he's in this.
Okay. The guy who wroteConair Conair was produced
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by Jerry Bruckheimer.
It was written by ScottRosenberg who also wrote
Jumanji Chy came out in 97.
Calm meanie. John
Malkovich, Ving Rams.
Dave Chappelle is in it.
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Steve Buscemi, Danny Trejo, John
Cusack, Nicholas Cage, bill
Ack is also in there.
Alright, so it's got everybody
and their brother, including John Ack
and his brother Bill Ack.
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Check out Con Air in a a TV edit.
It was actually pretty entertaining
because all the gross parts were out
and since there were so many of them,
it made the movie almost illegible.
Hard to understand.
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Then we went to the capitol building.
We saw some nice camelia trees.
There's plenty of them.
I photographed them
because my mom didn'tbelieve that trees could be
Chas could be trees,
but in fact we gotpictures with the Arnold
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Schwarzenegger portrait.
We went into the legislative chamber,
looked around the chandeliers,the weird green carpet.
There were a bunch of closed doors
and probably stuff wasgoing on behind them.
And then we went to some Vietnamese food
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in Sacramento.
They have, uh, plenty ofawesome Vietnamese there.
My wife got bunk out, which is moon cake.
It's like a mung beancrepe that you eat it
with lettuce and herbs.
And I got a kind of bumme, which is a sandwich
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and usually I, I thoughtit would be a sandwich.
It was called Bum Me, but ithad, I was kind of confusing.
So I ordered it and itturns out it was a loaf of
bread like you would use for.
They make a baguette thathas rice flour in it.
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It's super light andcrispy. So a whole baguette.
And then this cast iron skillet
with some eggs in it, some a
ball of like kind of liver orsomething, some ground meat.
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Um, like the ingredient and some beef.
It was like kind of theingredients of a sandwich
all being cooked in this cast
iron skillet.
And then I went in on that
and kind of put stuff from the skillet in,
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broke off bits of breadand ate it like that.
It was pretty good. Theyasked the guy at the end
where I'd never seen it
and he said it was common street
food in Vietnam.
And in fact that I am going to go
to this guy's record store.
He's a friend of mine,Steve's record store.
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His wife is Vietnamese,he's been to Vietnam.
And he was like, oh yeah,that's legit. They have that.
So it was legit Vietnamese food.
The place in Sacramentowas called Saigon Oi.
And that attracted me
because of the punk, uh, nature.
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It's Saigon. Oi, it was pretty good.
Then we went the next day we went to
Suso City.
My friend Steve has a record store there.
So we went through there
and checked it out,said what's up to Steve?
Turns out Steve's moving to Davis.
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So maybe I, I I can stop by
and hang out with Stevenext time we go on a family
road trip, spring break, road trip.
Then we stayed at the CourtyardMarriott and Larksburg,
and that's right at LarksburgLanding right across the
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street from all these restaurants.
We took the kid at kids out
to this place, farm shop.
It's like an adult restaurant with a bar
and everything, you know, fancy.
And we ate there.
A table was at eight,
but I feel like we were there
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until super late for those kids.
I'm pretty amazed that they, they made it,
they had some cheesypasta and we had dessert
and they chose the para sobe,but they pronounced it wrong.
And so we had a little sobe,it's a French word, we had
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that, but it was so cool.
The kids were out until nine 30 at dinner
for an hour and a half, all adults around
and older kids.
And they really maintained
and they got the pairof so bay at the end.
And it was good. There was a pool
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at the courtyard in Larksburg.
The kids loved that.
Everywhere we went, thehotel in Sa, Sacramento,
of course at the water slides
and then at the hotel in Larksburg.
They were, the kids were inthe pool. They rocked it.
Then the next day we went to Salsalito
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and we had lunch at Scoma,
which is like right on the waterfront.
We went shopping forgames at a game store.
Salsa Lido was cool,cool cars driving around.
It was fun. We found a parking space
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right there on the Bridgeway,
so parking wasn't hard.
And you know, we had a goodtime walking around Salsa lito.
We got the ice cream.
We took our picture
and picture out on the pier
with San Francisco in the background.
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It was totally awesome.And then we came home.
So that was, that was last week.
This week so far,
the size map is just calculating changes
in sensation.
Yesterday, yesterday, yesterday I drove
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to Oakland by myself
and I went to a couple of friends' houses
and I did it all by myself.
I was gone for maybethree and a half hours.
That doesn't seem like a big deal,
but I, for me it was, itwas the most, I've been out
and I haven't hardlybeen out by myself at all
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for like 16 months, you know,
after the surgery is like shaking out.
I've been on a lot, elevatedlevels of medication.
Certainly in the lastmonth, I, I doubled it,
but it, over the past 16 months, I've had
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some amount of pain andI've been managing it.
So right now I'm, I'm reducing pills,
so it's getting easier to walk.
I can stand on my owntwo feet and in my brace
and pick up my cane
and I can balance for kind of a while.
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And I'm gonna have physicaltherapy in a couple weeks.
And I had my intake appointmentbefore I had the surgery.
She's gonna be like, what happened to you?
You couldn't even stand up.
That's, you know, at the beginning,
at the intake appointment, they're like,
what do you wanna work on?
I'm like, I want to stand up.
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I want to be able to getup after I've fallen.
I still probably wanna know howto get up after I've fallen,
but I'm doing okay at standing up.
She's going to be like, how are you?
Even you, they, they were like,
she was very unsecured
or unsure that I'd be able towalk myself at all anywhere.
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So I went to Oakland by myself.
I walked in and out of my friend's houses.
One of my friends has bigstairs, the other one has
less stairs, but no hand railing.
So it's kinda sketchy, you know.
So I, I wanted to experience that.
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And I did it just yesterday.
We got the piano tune,so it was like, ding
and now it's all in tune.
It's not beating anymore.I wanna play piano.
You know, I play piano with one hand.
So I kind of play the chords one way
and then I play them another way
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and with only one hand.
So I can't make chords,substitutions with my right hand.
So I can't really play in a certain,
in a jazz style, but Ican kind of fiddle around
and it's a good thing.
So, oh yeah, I'm a, a published poet.
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I was like, what am I forgetting?
Writings by John Hoffman is live,
that is my author website
in advance, in advance of the publication
of this 50 words story I wrote
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about Cyber Truck Dental, SDRL,
I'm starting small.
I'm, I'm starting with a 50 word story.
So I made an author website, writings
by John Winfield Hopin, totally
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uncensored and all the way live.
So the writing stuff is at jw.
What's the matter with me Do org.
So I just kinda made asubdomain of this website
and next week I shouldbe a published author.
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I think that will happen.
But that's something I've been working on.
It's um, I kind of wantto say no more on that
and say, let's hope it happens, right?
Knock on wood for that.
Thank you for tuning intothe, what's the matter
with me podcast.
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I had surgery, I went on vacation.
The writings by John Hopkins site is live.
Next time we talk, I betI'll be a published author.
Knock on wood. Thank you for tuning in.
I'll check you next time.
- A lot of things are happening.
A lot of things going down. Good stuff.
Good stuff is happening.
Good things going down all around.
Thank you for tuning intothe, what's the matter
with me podcast.
I had surgery, I went on vacation.
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I'm about to become a published author.
You are tuned into the What'sthe Matter with me podcast.
My name is John. I'm 44 years old.
Husband, father of two,small business owner,
radio DJ, podcaster.
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I have multiple sclerosistrigeminal neuralgia.
And I made this podcast toshare what I'm going through.
Thank you for tuning in.
It's, what's the matterwith me time, y'all? Okay.
Surgery, vacation, published.
Oh, hey, first of all, subscribers,
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get the selfie for as long as we all live.
It's a lifetime subscription.
It reminds me, I gotta take a selfie.
I always forget to like comb my hair
and do the obvious stuff.
And I'm like, okay, let's photograph,
(01:26):
let me photograph myself.
Think my glasses areall dirty. Oh, popping
- Hot sauce.
It's the best hot saucehopping. Hot sauce.
It's the best sauce inthe world. The world.
I'm telling you,
- That mission that I began a few episodes
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back is happening.
Yeah, so I've been talkingabout publishing poetry
on the podcast since like 2021,
maybe before even.
But I, I specifically in the, in the,
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can You Eat Blood episodefrom Thanksgiving.
In that episode, I give a shout out to Joe
and he's like my load star of copying Joe
out of, out of juvenile competitiveness
and says here in, uh,the right off the top
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of Can you Eat Blood?
I'm talking about Joe.
I say, Joe played guitarin my high school band
and now he's a published poet.
So that, that's somethingI'm trying to emulate.
Anyway, it's gonna happen soon
since we were all sittingaround eating blood.
That's, that's when I decided, yeah,
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glasses are dirty.
So, so what do you gotta say about it?
What do you think about it?
What are you going to do about it?
Uh, what do you, let'sgive some shout outs.
I want to give a shout out to Marsh
Marans Pet Rat.
This dude is a hockey,what do they call it?
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A hockey s poster. Self-described.
I'm a hockey s poster, andhe was diagnosed with ms
and he has to wear an eye patch.
He's having trouble with his eye.
And, uh, so me too,man, I'm having trouble
with having dry eye
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and so through all this health stuff.
And so I, I was like, oh man,I, I started writing him.
I was like, it's a long slog. You know?
He, he kind of startedposting about having MS
and also about hockey, able to check out
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a weird culture of people on Twitter who
kind of say meaningless,
provocative things abouthockey, not hockey,
but really close to hockey is rocky
Shout outs to Rocky.
That's boxing.
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Boxing, differentdifferent sport shout outs
to cousin Eric and Tracy.
We went to Sacramento on ourvacation. We'll get into it.
Wanna give a shout out to Dax Pearson?
Dax agreed to let me email him
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and I'm kind of laggingon writing the questions.
I've been listening to his newest record,
which is on dark entries
and it's called Nerve Bumps,
A Queer Divine Dissatisfaction.
He's a disabled artist andmusician, kind of like me.
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So I was like, oh, let me interview you.
So coming and he agreed.
So coming up, I'll ask, I'll ask
Dax about some of his story
and what he's doing.
Find out what's up with him.
Also going to give ashout out to the Sandman.
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The Sandman had a music contribution.
He sent me the band camp for James
Wavy, the San Francisco,
San Francisco dude, I guess they added it
on KFJC and Sandmans over there.
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He said, Hey, we got thisnew one. Check it out.
It was pretty cool. I listened to it.
I want, I gave you a couplelistens, but I need some more.
James Wavy, snowy Beach is the name
of the tape, and you canhear it on Band Camp.
You can buy the digital album.Pretty interesting stuff.
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He's a rapper, but more like experimental,
pushing at the kind of pre
preconceived boundaries of being a rapper.
Cool and interesting. Maybehe could be a published poet.
I think maybe he could pull it off.
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James Wavy, snowy Beach on Bang Camp.
I'll put that link. SoI, I had surgery, um,
two weeks ago now, andI had to go off coffee
and ibuprofen.
I was in a lot of pain,um, prior to the surgery.
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And I doubled, I doubled the dosage.
I doubled my dosage of what I was taking.
So it was like making me azombie. It was pretty bad.
And so then I just kindof cut out a quarter.
So I was like at 175%.
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I was taking so many pills, I think
three times a day, twodifferent medications,
just a lot of it.
And I was off coffee.
I, I had to bring in the coffee,
but, so I reduced that double medication
and it returned me somewhat
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to the land of the living.
It was pretty tough. I wasalways in my wheelchair.
Even in my house.
I, I, you know, whenyou stand up, you, um,
fire your different muscle groups,
you know, your quads, your glutes,
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and your abs kind of stabilized your core.
So when I was on so much nerve,
the medication I wastaking, it's like anti
epilepsy seizure medication
because I'm having nerve pain.
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So it would just like suppress my nerves
and my brain, my central nervous system.
Everything suppressed.
And so it was hard tomake these muscle groups
contract and work together.
And I have weakness on my rightside and my leg and my arm.
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So when I stood up, Iwas like so drugged out.
I had to like, pull myself up.
Like even to get up from mydesk chair, I had to use my arm,
my left arm to like pullmyself up onto the desk
and almost with my stomach on the desk.
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And then I got my cane.
So it was like my armwas doing a lot of work
that my right leg and myright glutes and quads
and abs weren't firing.
So I was falling really often.
It was hard to get up inthe middle of all that.
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I was accepted on a piece of writing
and I signed an an for the first time.
I had a signed agreement.
And so the, that will,
that'll come about soon.
But I, I did DocuSign.
I was like, I'm gonna publishthis thing. It's official.
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So on the day when I wouldusually be recording two weeks
ago, I had surgery, my third
RF Rise autotomy in advance of surgery.
I bought some tunes, some music.
I had to like, givemyself a reason to live.
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I bought Drunken Love by Elvin Brandy
and Lord Spike Heart.
And that is a weird, uh, album.
I like it, it reminds me ofa band I was in in college.
It's called Hammer and thRock with my buddy Anthony.
And it is just like experimental, far,
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far out dance music, kind
of this stuff.
You know, we don'tcompare to this nowadays.
This this is kid stuff, oven Brandy
and Spike Heart Oven.
Brandy is from Whales Ni Nairobi,
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rapper, producer, Nairobibased rapper, producer,
Lord Spike Heart.
So they had some weird, pretty good music.
I, I enjoy it. And thenI got the G Trilogy
by DJ Rivy, DJ Marillo
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and DJ Scoffing.
So this is just somefar out electronic music
from Durbin Durbin's,
highly influential Gumm sound.
Three separate artistsfrom South Africa's fertile
musical landscape.
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A fresh wave of gumm innovation.
So I got some tunes,spontaneous musical invention
that came out on recital.
And I'm a sucker forall the recital records
releases that have books.
And like this is a double LP edition
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of three 50, a 24 page booklet
of libretto scores, programnotes, introduction, written
by Alvin Lucier.
So got anyway, got myself some tunes
'cause I'm like, I'm gonnacome back from surgery.
So I this, when I cameback from surgery, I, I,
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I made a note back from surgery
and my face feels differenttalking and eating
and I'm sure other things thatI'm not noticing or affected,
but that's always true.
It's a matter of decidinghow I feel about the things
that are different.
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But first I have to accept them.
So my face felt numband it still feels numb.
It feels different like it day.
That's kind of the scary part.
'cause I'm like, okay, when isthis numbness gonna wear off
and it's gonna really hurt.
That's kind of, I have tolive there and be there
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and you know, this is myfifth time having surgery.
So they drilled the holein the back of my head
and then had another surgery there.
Then this one that I justhad was the third time in
through the front of my face.
It's an RF rises outta me.
But instead of keeping me awake
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and like a electrocuting my face,
they put me under general anesthesia
and made a, a lot of numbness.
Like, it's like when I'm in the shower
and I lean my head back
and look up, it's like I have half a head,
I have half a mouth, Ihave one eye, one nostril,
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you know, it's like half a chin.
So I'm like learning how totalk and have diction and you,
and say words like graduation and diction.
They're, they're hard words to say
when you have just, I'm like kind
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of permanently at the dentist's office.
But I think I hit onsomething in that note.
I, I made, it's a matter of deciding
how I feel about thethings that are different.
And first I have to accept them
and I think I, I did,I'm doing okay with that.
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You know, every time I try
and talk, this is the firsttime I'm trying to speak for
an extended period of time.
Thanks for tuning into whatthe matter with me podcast.
But I eat, you know, and,
and eating was pretty hardto figure out at first.
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I was kind of chewing on my molders.
It's still kind of, I'mlearning every time.
It's like, oh, I can eat like that,
but I'm having, I'm not in pain.
I'm having some very like, almost like
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ants on the skin sensation.
It's hard to, but it's not painful
and it's only intermittent.
It only happens now
and again, something that I notice is,
and you know, it's not my first rodeo, so
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I've noticed your body, your brain
has like a body size map in your head
and it recalculates it.
It takes time to like
if your mouth is numb, right?
When it becomes numb, it feels huge
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and then it gets smaller and smaller.
Your brain redraws the size map
and if you can only feelon one half of your mouth,
well then it draws infor your whole mouth,
that one half, you know,so you're, it kind of
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changes sensation.
So I had surgery and then thenext day I went on vacation
and it's like I said, theygo in through the face
and then you wake up with a bandaid on.
That's it. Nothing,nothing hurts. It was numb.
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So I went on vacation.
So let's see, I had surgery, I had surgery
four days later I had um, infusion
where they gave me my MS medication.
And the day after that, it was Tuesday
of spring break, we wenton a family road trip.
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It was pretty cool. So the first night
we went to the Manteca
water slides at the GreatWolf Lodge in Manteca.
And it's like this child resort
and it's full of children screaming
and splashing
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and that there's a waterarea, a whole water park area
and it's all inside.
It seems unhealthy but it'slike there's water slide.
So the kids were in, I waslike, take me to the bar.
But I was feeling a littlebit better at that point,
you know, I had had surgery,I reducing medication
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so that reducing both medications.
So they had a placecalled the watering hole
and they served some,they had a whiskey sour,
I had a whiskey sour there.
The kids were went all around going nuts.
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I went to the bed andslept. We go to a DA room.
So it's like rural in shower
and how far is this place,Manteca from where we live,
that was part of this vacation idea.
Things needed to benot too hard of travel,
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but I wanted to go on likea road trip with the kids
and go to like a few different places.
But I wanted to have it be accessible.
So we were like, forgetAirbnb and all that.
We're going to use a hotel
because they'll be a DA set up
for the a DA.
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It's an hour and 45 minutes from here,
about 60 miles due east.
So we had breakfast here.
We didn't stress too hard,
but I was telling the kids, youknow, get your teeth brushed
'cause we gotta go to the waterpark.
So they had waterpark,they had a, a climbing,
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huge climbing structure.
The kids loved that. Itook pictures of them.
I rolled around the thing inmy wheelchair taking pictures
of them as they got higher and higher.
My wife did it. So the family's got guts.
It was cool. They had avideo arcade, they had some
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restaurant with locallysourced ingredients.
I was like, no way.
So a lot of it is they get youin the door and then they try
and sell you like a $45 ribeye.
And I was like, I'm not doing that.
So we went to Mexican food inManteca and it was awesome.
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It's like we were on a roadtrip. They have in Manteca.
The kids really loved it
because it was this part
of our vacation the firstnight was really oriented.
And the next beginning
and the next day really oriented for them.
They have, you know, it'slike in a nice resort,
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you think there's a storewith, with fancy watches
and handbags and stuff.
But at this resort there's acandy store with a whole wall
of different jelly beans.
So that's what's going on here.
It's a kid resort
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and it's like a, um,
the Great Wolf Lodge is the chain.
They have one in Arizona and Scottsdale.
So you know, but it from here an hour
and 45 minutes east.
And then the next daywe went to Sacramento.
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We stayed in at EmbassySuites, Sacramento,
riverfront, front promenade,close to Old Sack.
You know, I love Old Sack. Sowe were there for two nights.
We went to the hotel bar.
There was something wrong with the room.
One of the a DA bars wasn'tanchored into the wall.
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So like one of the first thingsI did was roll over there,
try and get up on it andpull it all out the wall
and none of the screws were anchored.
So I'm like, what's going on here?
We called down at the desk
and they had engineeringcrew go in there and fix it.
It took a couple hours.
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But that's the kinda thing,like if that had happened at an
Airbnb and stuff like thathas happened to me at, at
one of these kinda non-hotel type places.
It can take a long timeto get the concierge
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to get the um, people together.
And you have, I have kidsso I can't really spend all
that time doing it.
So my cousin Eric
and Tracy, they live in Sacramento.
We met my cousin Eric in Lotus, California
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and we went on awheelchair accessible hike
in the Dave Moore nature area.
The hike down to the beachwas wheelchair accessible.
'cause then Eric told me, wehit it, it's pretty sketchy.
I'd like to get sketchy.
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This was pretty sketchy,
but we could get all the waydown to the beach where the
American river waterfront was.
And and the kids enjoyed it.
They have this rock formationthere, the mushroom rock,
the mushroom rock.
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And it's just a bigold weird looking rock.
You're like, what happened?
Usually a rock is pretty solid,but something happened here.
It was kind of an oldtrail with stone walls.
Somebody laid stone wallsto get it down to the beach.
But there were big rutsand branches falling down.
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So it was kind of sketchygetting down there.
Once we had figured it out,we going back up was easier
on family vacations.
I always find myself onthese wheelchair accessible
or these trails in my wheelchair
and the wheelchair is likesliding around in there
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because it's not quite graded.
Something that wasgraded and overall safer
because it was inside.
We went to the Crocker Art Museum
that Crocker was the general council
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for the railroad andhe had this immense for
and all these goods
from all over the world.
Then his house was donated
as an an art mu as theArt Museum of Sacramento.
They have the house, they built a modern
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wing edition.
And so the old house is really ornate wood
and tile floors and these treasures.
And then the new part.
So the, the house dates from 1872
and the new wing opened in 2010.
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They got Japanese ceramics in their
pre-Colombian sculpture.
Cool stuff. I like the museum.
I have a good time there
'cause I think it's kind ofone of the more interesting,
the art museums that I've been
to in America, for sure.
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Painting by Hung Lou passed away.
She was, um, an instructorfor my wife at Mills College.
We went through the old house.
They have these wonderful
tiles on the floor in the entryway.
Super impressive tile work.
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Wood, the doors, everything super
ornate in the old house.
We loved it. And then in the basement,
there's a children's creativity area.
You know, my kids had fun
climbing all over indifferent colored tape
and stuff like that.
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Then we went back and watched Con Air
and my, my wife enjoyed Con Air.
We watched uh, a um,
like a TV edit of Con Air.
It was on like TNT orwhatever, USA or something.
And so we watched it in thehotel room 'cause we were tired
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after they were the fish andchips at the Bonney there
and then the art museum.
And we were just like,I don't want to go out.
Like, so we just hung out in there
and watched Con Air that we liked a lot
just because it was like,oh, he's, he's in this.
Okay. The guy who wroteConair Conair was produced
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by Jerry Bruckheimer.
It was written by ScottRosenberg who also wrote
Jumanji Chy came out in 97.
Calm meanie. John
Malkovich, Ving Rams.
Dave Chappelle is in it.
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Steve Buscemi, Danny Trejo, John
Cusack, Nicholas Cage, bill
Ack is also in there.
Alright, so it's got everybody
and their brother, including John Ack
and his brother Bill Ack.
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Check out Con Air in a a TV edit.
It was actually pretty entertaining
because all the gross parts were out
and since there were so many of them,
it made the movie almost illegible.
Hard to understand.
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Then we went to the capitol building.
We saw some nice camelia trees.
There's plenty of them.
I photographed them
because my mom didn'tbelieve that trees could be
Chas could be trees,
but in fact we gotpictures with the Arnold
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Schwarzenegger portrait.
We went into the legislative chamber,
looked around the chandeliers,the weird green carpet.
There were a bunch of closed doors
and probably stuff wasgoing on behind them.
And then we went to some Vietnamese food
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in Sacramento.
They have, uh, plenty ofawesome Vietnamese there.
My wife got bunk out, which is moon cake.
It's like a mung beancrepe that you eat it
with lettuce and herbs.
And I got a kind of bumme, which is a sandwich
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and usually I, I thoughtit would be a sandwich.
It was called Bum Me, but ithad, I was kind of confusing.
So I ordered it and itturns out it was a loaf of
bread like you would use for
They make a baguette thathas rice flour in it.
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It's super light andcrispy. So a whole baguette.
And then this cast iron skillet
with some eggs in it, some a
ball of like kind of liver orsomething, some ground meat.
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Um, like the ingredient and some beef.
It was like kind of theingredients of a sandwich
all being cooked in this cast
iron skillet.
And then I went in on that
and kind of put stuff from the skillet in,
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broke off bits of breadand ate it like that.
It was pretty good. Theyasked the guy at the end
where I'd never seen it
and he said it was common street
food in Vietnam.
And in fact that I am going to go
to this guy's record store.
He's a friend of mine,Steve's record store.
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His wife is Vietnamese,he's been to Vietnam.
And he was like, oh yeah,that's legit. They have that.
So it was legit Vietnamese food.
The place in Sacramentowas called Saigon Oi.
And that attracted me
because of the punk, uh, nature.
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It's Saigon. Oi, it was pretty good.
Then we went the next day we went to
Suso City.
My friend Steve has a record store there.
So we went through there
and checked it out,said what's up to Steve?
Turns out Steve's moving to Davis.
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So maybe I, I I can stop by
and hang out with Stevenext time we go on a family
road trip, spring break, road trip.
Then we stayed at the CourtyardMarriott and Larksburg,
and that's right at LarksburgLanding right across the
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street from all these restaurants.
We took the kid at kids out
to this place, farm shop.
It's like an adult restaurant with a bar
and everything, you know, fancy.
And we ate there.
A table was at eight,
but I feel like we were there
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until super late for those kids.
I'm pretty amazed that they, they made it,
they had some cheesypasta and we had dessert
and they chose the para sobe,but they pronounced it wrong.
And so we had a little sobe,it's a French word, we had
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that, but it was so cool.
The kids were out until nine 30 at dinner
for an hour and a half, all adults around
and older kids.
And they really maintained
and they got the pairof so bay at the end.
And it was good. There was a pool
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at the courtyard in Larksburg.
The kids loved that.
Everywhere we went, thehotel in Sa, Sacramento,
of course at the water slides
and then at the hotel in Larksburg.
They were, the kids were inthe pool. They rocked it.
Then the next day we went to Salsalito
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and we had lunch at Scoma,
which is like right on the waterfront.
We went shopping forgames at a game store.
Salsa Lido was cool,cool cars driving around.
It was fun. We found a parking space
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right there on the Bridgeway,
so parking wasn't hard.
And you know, we had a goodtime walking around Salsa lito.
We got the ice cream.
We took our picture
and picture out on the pier
with San Francisco in the background.
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It was totally awesome.And then we came home.
So that was, that was last week.
This week so far,
the size map is just calculating changes
in sensation.
Yesterday, yesterday, yesterday I drove
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to Oakland by myself
and I went to a couple of friends' houses
and I did it all by myself.
I was gone for maybethree and a half hours.
That doesn't seem like a big deal,
but I, for me it was, itwas the most, I've been out
and I haven't hardlybeen out by myself at all
(34:52):
for like 16 months, you know,
after the surgery is like shaking out.
I've been on a lot, elevatedlevels of medication.
Certainly in the lastmonth, I, I doubled it,
but it, over the past 16 months, I've had
(35:13):
some amount of pain andI've been managing it.
So right now I'm, I'm reducing pills,
so it's getting easier to walk.
I can stand on my owntwo feet and in my brace
and pick up my cane
and I can balance for kind of a while.
(35:35):
And I'm gonna have physicaltherapy in a couple weeks.
And I had my intake appointmentbefore I had the surgery.
She's gonna be like, what happened to you?
You couldn't even stand up.
That's, you know, at the beginning,
at the intake appointment, they're like,
what do you wanna work on?
I'm like, I want to stand up.
(35:56):
I want to be able to getup after I've fallen.
I still probably wanna know howto get up after I've fallen,
but I'm doing okay at standing up.
She's going to be like, how are you?
Even you, they, they were like,
she was very unsecured
or unsure that I'd be able towalk myself at all anywhere.
(36:21):
So I went to Oakland by myself.
I walked in and out of my friend's houses.
One of my friends has bigstairs, the other one has
less stairs, but no hand railing.
So it's kinda sketchy, you know.
So I, I wanted to experience that.
(36:42):
And I did it just yesterday.
We got the piano tune,so it was like, ding
and now it's all in tune.
It's not beating anymore.I wanna play piano.
You know, I play piano with one hand.
So I kind of play the chords one way
and then I play them another way
(37:04):
and with only one hand.
So I can't make chords,substitutions with my right hand.
So I can't really play in a certain,
in a jazz style, but Ican kind of fiddle around
and it's a good thing.
So, oh yeah, I'm a, a published poet.
(37:26):
I was like, what am I forgetting?
Writings by John Hoffman is live,
that is my author website
in advance, in advance of the publication
of this 50 words story I wrote
(37:46):
about Cyber Truck Dental, SDRL,
I'm starting small.
I'm, I'm starting with a 50 word story.
So I made an author website, writings
by John Winfield Hopin, totally
(38:08):
uncensored and all the way live.
So the writing stuff is at jw.
What's the matter with me Do org.
So I just kinda made asubdomain of this website
and next week I shouldbe a published author.
(38:30):
I think that will happen.
But that's something I've been working on.
It's um, I kind of wantto say no more on that
and say, let's hope it happens, right?
Knock on wood for that.
Thank you for tuning intothe, what's the matter
with me podcast.
(38:50):
I had surgery, I went on vacation.
The writings by John Hopkins site is live.
Next time we talk, I betI'll be a published author.
Knock on wood. Thank you for tuning in.
I'll check you next time.
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