When I Heard This - Podcast

When I Heard This - Podcast

What happens when a comedian asks a pastor whatever he wants?? 😮 In the "When I Heard This" podcast, comedian Nate Robinsoff asks Pastor Joseph Tillman, M.Div. whatever questions he can think of about church in America, the Bible, Christianity, cults, sex, and well really anything! He doesn't hold much back 🤣. https://www.youtube.com/@wheniheardthispodcast?sub_confirmation=1

Episodes

February 23, 2026 70 mins
What if everyone gets saved in the end… and that is actually the problem? In this second and final conversation on universalism, we dig into the “Disney ending” version of theology. The idea sounds comforting. No eternal consequences. No final separation. Everyone reconciled. Cue the emotional music. But what does that do to justice, holiness, leadership, and the actual claims of historic Christianity? We talk about universalism ...
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If everyone makes it to heaven in the end… what exactly are we doing here? Is universalism a serious theological position, or is it just the gospel rebranded for a culture that hates the idea of anyone being left out? In this episode, the conversation turns toward Christian universalism and the growing popularity of the belief that all people will ultimately be saved. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman explore the theology behind it, th...
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Bible college sounds great in theory. Real life tends to ask better questions. This episode continues the Bible college conversation, but drops the polished language and turns up the pressure. Nate comes in hotter with the questions most people think about but usually keep to themselves. What is Bible college actually designed to do. Who does it serve well. And what happens when the classroom version of faith meets real leadership...
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February 2, 2026 56 mins
Thinking about Bible college? Or still trying to figure out what it was actually supposed to do? This conversation starts at the basics, before anyone starts arguing in the comments. This is the first episode in a multi-part series on Bible college, and it intentionally starts slow. No shock value. No hot takes yet. Just context. Nate and Dr. Joseph talk through what Bible college is designed for, what it is not, and why so many p...
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February 1, 2026 75 mins
When church leadership makes headlines, the fallout is never just internal. And this time, the story is heavier than most. Sensitive content warning: This episode discusses allegations involving fraud and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised. In this In the Headlines episode, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman talk through the ongoing Bethel Church scandal involving Shawn Bolz, Kris Vallotton, and Bill Johnson. They unpack what’...
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If meaning is just something we make up, why does it keep falling apart? In this episode, the conversation goes straight at atheism and the meaning problem it creates. Not as a debate and definitely not as a gotcha. More like an honest look at what happens when belief in God is removed and purpose is expected to hold itself together anyway. We talk about why meaning feels necessary even when people reject faith, where moral frame...
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The conversation didn’t end when the episode did. Temptation has a way of sticking around after you think you’ve moved on. This episode is the follow up nobody plans for. An extension of the temptation conversation that keeps going once the big spiritual points are made and real life kicks back in. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dig into what happens after the rules, after the warnings, and after the confident statements about doing ...
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January 12, 2026 76 mins
What happens when temptation does not end neatly, or at all? This episode closes out the temptation conversation without pretending there is a clean bow to tie on it. Instead of offering a final fix, it looks at what temptation actually feels like over time, especially for people trying to take faith seriously in real life, not just in theory. The conversation digs into how Christians are taught to handle temptation versus how it...
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January 5, 2026 58 mins
Why does temptation always show up right after you think you’re fine? Like it’s been waiting for a cue. In Episode 167 – Temptation Strikes Back, the conversation keeps going on how Christians actually deal with temptation in real life, not the cleaned up version we pretend exists. We talk about why temptation feels repetitive, why it hits when your guard is down, and why church answers often sound confident but feel wildly unhelp...
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Why does temptation always feel manageable right up until it isn’t? Temptation rarely shows up wearing a warning label. In this episode, the conversation digs into how Christians actually experience temptation in real life, not the dramatic, headline-worthy stuff, but the quiet decisions that add up over time. The kind that usually starts with “this isn’t a big deal” and ends with “how did I get here?” Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman...
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Is Santa a harmless tradition or a theological headache? And why does Christmas bring out so many unspoken church rules? Christmas tends to magnify every tension we already have about faith, family, and church culture. In this episode, we talk through Christmas from a Christian perspective, including Santa, tradition, and why December turns simple beliefs into complicated debates. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dig into how churches...
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Leadership does not end when the service does. This episode continues part two of the conversation on Christian leadership, shifting the focus away from church roles and toward real life. What does leadership look like at home, in marriage, with kids, at work, and in friendships when there is no platform, no applause, and no title attached. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman talk through the gap many people feel between church language ...
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What does Christian leadership look like when it actually leaves the church building and enters your real life? 👀 In Episode 163, Nate and Pastor Joseph take the conversation home. Literally. From family rhythms to friendships to the quiet places where character shows up (or doesn’t), this episode breaks down what spiritual leadership looks like in everyday life. Honest, sarcastic, relatable, and way more practical than you’d exp...
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What actually counts as Christian leadership… and why does it fall apart so often inside the church? In this episode, Nate and Pastor Joseph dig into the truth about leadership in the church and why so many believers end up confused, hurt, or just straight-up annoyed by how authority works in different Christian spaces. They break down what healthy spiritual leadership looks like, how influence can be used well or misused fast, an...
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Is it revival or just really enthusiastic chaos? 👀🔥 Welcome to part two of our deep dive into the world of Christian charismatics, where Nate and Pastor Joseph unpack the power, the tension, and the pushback surrounding modern charismatic faith. If you’ve ever wondered why Christians split into entire denominations over one tiny detail, or why some church services feel like a theology class and others feel like a concert with sur...
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What happens when revival turns into reality TV? 🔥 In Episode 160 – Charismatic Chaos: Faith, Fire, and the Fallout, Nate and Pastor Joseph dive headfirst into the world of Christian charismatics. From powerful worship moments to questionable “miracles,” they unpack what’s real, what’s hype, and how faith sometimes flirts with frenzy. It’s honest, funny, and just uncomfortable enough to make you think. If you’ve ever side-eyed a...
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🎃 Should Christians celebrate Halloween—or leave it alone? 👻 In Episode 159 – Haunted or Holy, Pt. 2: A Christian Wrap-Up on Halloween, hosts Nate and Pastor Joseph finish their deep (and sometimes hilarious) dive into how believers should approach Halloween. From spiritual caution to cultural fun, they explore the tension between faith, fear, and fall festivals. It’s funny, honest, and refreshingly real—just two guys talking a...
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🎃 Should Christians celebrate Halloween… or steer clear of it? 👻 In Episode 158 – Haunted or Holy: Christians and Halloween, hosts Nate and Pastor Joseph dig into one of the most debated questions in the church—how should believers approach Halloween? From trick-or-treating and haunted houses to “fall festivals” and spiritual caution, this first part of the two-part series explores whether Halloween is harmless fun, cultural par...
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October 20, 2025 57 mins
😳 Still carrying shame even after saying you’re forgiven? Yeah… you’re not the only one. In this episode, Nate and Pastor Joseph dive into what shame really is, how it sticks, and why so many Christians still walk around burdened with what Jesus already dealt with. With their usual combo of sarcasm, honesty, and zero fluff, they unpack a deeply human struggle through a Gospel-centered lens. 🙌 This isn’t a lecture. It’s a real c...
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Everyone loves the idea of starting a church… until the calling gets complicated. 😅 In this episode of When I Heard This, Nate and Pastor Joseph keep it real about what church planting actually looks like — the calling, the chaos, and the cost no one talks about. From emotional exhaustion to unexpected blessings, they unpack how obedience can feel messy, meaningful, and absolutely worth it. 👉 In this episode: • The fine line be...
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