When I Heard This - Podcast
What happens when a comedian asks a pastor whatever he wants?? 😮 In the "When I Heard This" podcast, comedian Nate Robinsoff asks Pastor Joseph Tillman, M.Div. whatever questions he can think of about church in America, the Bible, Christianity, cults, sex, and well really anything! He doesn't hold much back 🤣. https://www.youtube.com/@wheniheardthispodcast?sub_confirmation=1
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May 11, 2026 • 59 mins
At what point does “doing good works” start sounding like a performance review nobody asked for?
Episode 182 continues the ongoing discussion about faith and works according to scripture, except this time the conversation gets painfully close to the way people actually think about effort, productivity, church culture, and whether Christians secretly believe God is grading participation with a clipboard somewhere.
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May 4, 2026 • 54 mins
If “doing good” is the goal… why does nobody agree on what that actually means?
This episode takes the whole faith vs works conversation and makes it slightly more uncomfortable. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dig into what scripture says about doing good, and why it’s not as clean or checklist-based as people want it to be. Is faith enough? Do your actions prove something? Or are we all just trying to reverse-engineer what God wants...
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April 27, 2026 • 62 mins
So… is faith something you have, or something you’re actually doing?
Because those are two very different conversations.
This episode keeps pushing past the surface-level “have faith” idea and starts asking what that even means according to scripture. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman get into how faith actually works, how you get it, and what you’re supposed to have faith in beyond just saying the word.
They also get into the uncomfo...
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April 20, 2026 • 56 mins
So… does anyone actually agree on what “faith and works” even means, or are we all just arguing using the same words differently?
Because the second you ask basic questions, things get weird fast.
This episode starts breaking down the whole faith vs works conversation from the ground level. Not the usual talking points, but the actual definitions. What is faith, what counts as works, and where the Bible even talks about either wi...
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April 13, 2026 • 57 mins
So… how exactly does God feel about war… and who’s actually responsible when it all goes wrong?
This one wraps up the Christian war ethics conversation and yeah, it gets messy fast. They dig into whether wars of choice are ever justified, what scripture actually says about leadership and violence, and whether “good reasons” still count once everything spirals.
Then it keeps going. Civilian fallout, propaganda, drafts, and the unc...
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March 23, 2026 • 71 mins
Is there such a thing as a just war, or do Christians start sweating the second the questions get too specific?
In Episode 177 of When I Heard This, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman keep the war conversation going and get into the mess people usually try to dodge. This episode looks at Christian war ethics, what scripture says about war, and whether intention, method, or outcome matters most when people try to justify violence.
They t...
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March 16, 2026 • 59 mins
What happens when you actually read the Bible passages about war… instead of quietly skipping them?
Because once those stories show up, the conversation about faith, violence, and responsibility gets a lot more complicated.
This episode kicks off a larger discussion about Christian views on war and what Scripture actually says about it. Not the polished answers people tend to repeat, but the uncomfortable questions that show up w...
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March 2, 2026 • 60 mins
Is Lent actually a historic Christian practice… or did we just turn it into a 40 day sugar detox?
In this episode, the guys unpack what Lent really is, what it means, and why Christians have observed it for centuries. They talk about the church calendar, fasting, repentance, spiritual discipline, and why the number 40 keeps showing up in Scripture. It is less about chocolate and more about formation.
They also get honest about ho...
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February 23, 2026 • 70 mins
What if everyone gets saved in the end… and that is actually the problem?
In this second and final conversation on universalism, we dig into the “Disney ending” version of theology. The idea sounds comforting. No eternal consequences. No final separation. Everyone reconciled. Cue the emotional music. But what does that do to justice, holiness, leadership, and the actual claims of historic Christianity?
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February 16, 2026 • 59 mins
If everyone makes it to heaven in the end… what exactly are we doing here?
Is universalism a serious theological position, or is it just the gospel rebranded for a culture that hates the idea of anyone being left out?
In this episode, the conversation turns toward Christian universalism and the growing popularity of the belief that all people will ultimately be saved. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman explore the theology behind it, th...
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February 8, 2026 • 62 mins
Bible college sounds great in theory. Real life tends to ask better questions.
This episode continues the Bible college conversation, but drops the polished language and turns up the pressure. Nate comes in hotter with the questions most people think about but usually keep to themselves. What is Bible college actually designed to do. Who does it serve well. And what happens when the classroom version of faith meets real leadership...
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February 2, 2026 • 56 mins
Thinking about Bible college? Or still trying to figure out what it was actually supposed to do?
This conversation starts at the basics, before anyone starts arguing in the comments.
This is the first episode in a multi-part series on Bible college, and it intentionally starts slow. No shock value. No hot takes yet. Just context. Nate and Dr. Joseph talk through what Bible college is designed for, what it is not, and why so many p...
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February 1, 2026 • 75 mins
When church leadership makes headlines, the fallout is never just internal.
And this time, the story is heavier than most.
Sensitive content warning: This episode discusses allegations involving fraud and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
In this In the Headlines episode, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman talk through the ongoing Bethel Church scandal involving Shawn Bolz, Kris Vallotton, and Bill Johnson. They unpack what’...
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January 26, 2026 • 73 mins
If meaning is just something we make up, why does it keep falling apart?
In this episode, the conversation goes straight at atheism and the meaning problem it creates. Not as a debate and definitely not as a gotcha. More like an honest look at what happens when belief in God is removed and purpose is expected to hold itself together anyway.
We talk about why meaning feels necessary even when people reject faith, where moral frame...
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January 19, 2026 • 70 mins
The conversation didn’t end when the episode did.
Temptation has a way of sticking around after you think you’ve moved on.
This episode is the follow up nobody plans for. An extension of the temptation conversation that keeps going once the big spiritual points are made and real life kicks back in. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dig into what happens after the rules, after the warnings, and after the confident statements about doing ...
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January 12, 2026 • 76 mins
What happens when temptation does not end neatly, or at all?
This episode closes out the temptation conversation without pretending there is a clean bow to tie on it. Instead of offering a final fix, it looks at what temptation actually feels like over time, especially for people trying to take faith seriously in real life, not just in theory.
The conversation digs into how Christians are taught to handle temptation versus how it...
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January 5, 2026 • 58 mins
Why does temptation always show up right after you think you’re fine?
Like it’s been waiting for a cue.
In Episode 167 – Temptation Strikes Back, the conversation keeps going on how Christians actually deal with temptation in real life, not the cleaned up version we pretend exists. We talk about why temptation feels repetitive, why it hits when your guard is down, and why church answers often sound confident but feel wildly unhelp...
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December 29, 2025 • 74 mins
Why does temptation always feel manageable right up until it isn’t?
Temptation rarely shows up wearing a warning label. In this episode, the conversation digs into how Christians actually experience temptation in real life, not the dramatic, headline-worthy stuff, but the quiet decisions that add up over time. The kind that usually starts with “this isn’t a big deal” and ends with “how did I get here?”
Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman...
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December 22, 2025 • 61 mins
Is Santa a harmless tradition or a theological headache?
And why does Christmas bring out so many unspoken church rules?
Christmas tends to magnify every tension we already have about faith, family, and church culture. In this episode, we talk through Christmas from a Christian perspective, including Santa, tradition, and why December turns simple beliefs into complicated debates.
Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dig into how churches...
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December 15, 2025 • 59 mins
Leadership does not end when the service does.
This episode continues part two of the conversation on Christian leadership, shifting the focus away from church roles and toward real life. What does leadership look like at home, in marriage, with kids, at work, and in friendships when there is no platform, no applause, and no title attached.
Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman talk through the gap many people feel between church language ...
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