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Everybody in serial killer country.
My name is Brittany. Ransom, and my name is Brian
Joiner. And this is the WinCo's get
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to the killer. We love to learn about about
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and Brian will introduce us to something Cryptid or
Supernatural. yes, and our firstsegment is always this week in
True Crime and this one is I don't know, I guess, it's not so
good, but it ends kind of sort of feel-good, listen.
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All right. I'll just explain in taxes.
This came out the end of June, alittle girl was in her bedroom.
She was about 10 years old and she screamed for her parents.
And outside of her window was a man looking through her window
and like touching himself inappropriately.
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Oh, no. So both Mom and Dad, grab their
guns. And Ran outside the guy fled to
a gas station and they chased him.
So then the wife stood there, like Mom holding her gun on him
and dad went inside to call 911 and then I guess the man
thinking that the woman would beweaker whatever, tried to like
wrestle the gun away from her and dad, stepped out and shot
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him three times. And like, the mom was over, like
we didn't want to shoot him, we were waiting for police to come
and detain him, because if I'm pretty sure, if he did this to
my children, he would do it to somebody else.
Yeah. His name hasn't been released
but like I'm pretty sure he's dead.
That's kind of the story. Well, you kind of get what you
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get, exactly. And like, I'm not sorry.
Sir, that you should should be doing.
Like, why? Why it's will know how old was
this child? She's 10.
N-no. It's just, like, makes me want
to just think like, no matter what if your kid asked to have
their bedroom on the first floor, just know?
Yeah, nothing goes well, with having your bedroom on the first
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floor, no, because black-eyed children, there's Cryptids.
There's my picture window. There's pedophiles fucking flow,
okay? They will float.
I'm saying is keep that kid up on a second floor, but let me
tell you my kids are on the second floor and right.
In the windows, Mike is. Yeah.
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Oh yeah, definitely. They're always like, hey, what
you doing now? They're judging our Mass but
regardless like, you know, well,it was a quick solution to a
problem, wasn't it? Yeah.
Like you kind of get effed up dude.
And then you got chase down and you wanted to try to fight you
thought you should have just stopped.
That's really the dream that I really should have.
Oh well oh well, oh my god. Well, Justice served, there you
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go. And Speaking of Justice.
Alrighty, Try. I'm going to speak about some
justice now. I'm going to start this off with
a quote. So this is a threat to you.
When I find you, I will show you.
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Is that what I do to serial killers?
And this is a quote, from a man from Alaska who know, this is a
guy from Arkansas, okay? So next to Texas, it's a guy
superhero. His name is Shadow vision.
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Okay. This is a picture of him in his
costume. His suit.
Oh, he really has set himself uphe's a vigilante, he is yes.
Um so he's a self-professed superhero.
Who is hunting a serial killer stabber, Ciro stabber in
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Arkansas? Okay, let's see. so, I guess
this Ciro stabber has been attacking people since August
20, 20, and This is when Shadow Vision comes into play.
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Okay, so he has a, he has a Facebook page and this is where
he made his quote, he has a Facebook page.
Yeah, probably happy. So I guess on Thursday, he had
told follower on his Facebook page that he was in Little Rock.
Arkansas is where just his dabbing has been taking place
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and that he was hunting, the serial killer that was there.
And there have been For knife attacks and only three words
that were fatal. That's still a lot.
Yeah. But the surviving victim she was
stabbed 15 times. Yeah.
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So look dude, I know right? Um we do wish you luck in your
in your hunt Shadow vision and Ido hope that you either help you
find the guy. Usually somebody else as opposed
to say. Either you help find this man or
that, you know, somebody finds somebody stops him or stops them
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and makes sense to me. Yeah yeah.
Um I guess he has a tick tock aswell haha.
That's awesome. What cystic duct?
Um it's probably just Shadow version, it probably is but
apparently there's a tick tock her.
There's somebody wrote on Comedyis like, I can't with this
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stupid City. I can't even Stating that her
first city has a serial killer and now superhero to protect
them. So, Look, this sounds like a
good. I like this.
Like, if we had a superhero in our city, I'm like all about you
like, dude, let me buy you drinks.
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Did you find a tick? Tock that look on your face,
he's walking around. You just searched Shadow Vision
on Tick-Tock, y'all and he, thisvideos of it PPL behind him.
Like he's walking around the city.
Yo, let me buy you. I wish I could buy you drink,
you have a Kofi. If you have a cool video
patreon, what do you had, dude? Give me your cash app.
I'll cash up, you some cash so you can buy a drink.
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Yep. So private and I took a very
small moment to look up the shadow Vision post on Connor
Tick-Tock. Oh my God boy, are they worth
it? Apparently Shadow fission is
from Ireland, Scotland, I can't mess that up.
He's from Scotland and he came to Arkansas because he felt the
people of Arkansas were losing hope.
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Also he has friends one name, tothe Ian, and it Master Legend
and they go on patrols together.What?
Does Master Legend wearing Master Legend?
Legitimately has a Boba Fett mask on along with like a silver
outfit. So fucking awesome.
It's great. I'm so sorry.
Shadow vision. I was incredible.
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I'm kind of well, I'm glad. He has friends though.
So he also, he is fundraising, he's crowdfunding so he can get
an official superhero vehicle. Yo, his cash app is money, sign
RLS. Ha, ha ha h-hey.
Dow. I'll give you my whole paycheck.
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The is IO n. So it's just real life, SSH
Shadow vision. I'll give you my whole paycheck
it. So you get a car just drive you
drive here though. Okay, you drive to where I am a
video of the three of them walking together in Arkansas, I
was awesome. This is from Toby.
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It says, at Tony and oh my god, he has his own page 111
followers. Come on, y'all helped.
Oh, the and become a real superhero police take time.
How are you supposed thousand followers?
He go live to listen. You have more Tick-Tock
followers. Usher's of the problem.
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Look, it's a lot. It is it's a lot like us.
You like how do you do this? I'm like, when we when I first
started, The Tick-Tock I was posting three or four times a
day for the first four months. Now I am at a place where I can
post like once or twice a day orevery other day.
Yeah. Got like a certain amount of
views, but you have to really dedicate like right away, but
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like all of them have a couple hundred views as well.
Say my I believe this one I would have thought I'd got you
had more until you removed it. I responded the first time I
didn't have I don't think I had more than that.
Really no. Oh well well this you just
brought some light to my life. You're welcome.
This is just hope that woke you up.
I also got my some coffee and I'll break.
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So, there you go. So there we go.
So this week, I kind of tasked myself with trying to find a
serial killer that wasn't as familiar with as some of the
other ones, which is hard for people who are crime nerds like
us, right? So, I was browsing on Amazon and
I said, looking at a book from Michael Newton, and he wrote one
of the cyclope Diaz of serial killers that I own, as well as a
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really frustrating book that I've been reading through called
the unsolved civil rights murdercases, which is just all of the
horrible murders, that went unsolved, because Racism.
But a book popped up in my suggestions that was called the
dark Strangler Earl Leonard Nelson.
And I had never heard the name before, which doesn't really
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happen that often to me, like usually when people in my live
streams are like, hey, have you heard of this person?
It's because the crime had literally happened days ago.
Yeah. And I haven't had a chance to
see it on the news yet but like if it comes with somebody who's
like been around for 100 years, absolutely, I know that britni
knows about them. But what I discovered is, The
reason why we don't know much about this is because right
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during the 1920s, when Earl Leonard Nelson was busy doing
his criming the media was obsessed with gangs and you
know, it was Prohibition Elliott.
Now else, you know, and leonesseall of that stuff, you know, and
they very much took a backseat to unlike the 70s and the 90s,
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which were all serial killers all the time, great, it was a
pop in time. A serial killers.
In fact, when Nelson was killing, they didn't even have a
word for what he was doing. That word wasn't crafted until
the 70s by wrestler agent. Ressler.
Yeah, so, What I will tell you about this.
Well, like it, you know, I've mentioned him in passing but he
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slipped in and out of boarding homes houses which is really
popular in the 20s. People just would like rent a
room and somebody's house. And a lot of people were doing
it a lot more than now. Honestly, he was able to get in
and out of highly populated areas and he he was strong in
fact like at one point like theyreferred to him as like a
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gorilla, like a gorilla killer. Oh my God.
It was a weird name. Mmmmm kicker what they thought
of it was like almost inhuman the way that he could like I
want to destroy a body but the way that he's sometimes, hid
them in places where bodies shouldn't fit.
Yeah. From pull them up.
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Yeah, that was something that hecould do with ease, but yeah.
Now I have my own feelings aboutwhy I think this man was able to
get in and out of places easily.I think it's because he looks
like an unremarkable, white man,but You'll see what I mean, but
his name is a dark Strangler. Well, that's okay.
I got also explained that to, I didn't realize this until I
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started reading from a couple different sources.
But, you know, the phrase tall dark and handsome, it doesn't
mean like black people. It means like men who have like
like white men who have dark coloration like darker tan skin,
dark hair, dark eyes. They're not, but they're still
quite so. But when I think of tall dark
and handsome, I think of like someone who's brown skin.
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Yes. And then you know, I didn't I
didn't realize that that was theoriginal like explanation of
that. So he's kind of the dark
Strangler because he just didn'tlook like a blonde hair
blue-eyed. White guy, you know, had as they
say in the books, darker features, you know, this one
happened if Shadow Vision was around.
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I think if only there had been Shadow Vision across all of
America and into Canada. Oh my god.
Oh Also because he killed all over the place.
He would have been he killed Across America as he was running
away. This would have been like The
Dark Knight like actually yeah that dark night when no not that
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one like that actually the dark night when Batman goes across
the fucking see the get the remember these movies have I've
watched them once, okay? Like 10 years, never mind.
I'm sorry. No you're fine.
All I remember is Christian Baletalking in his mother's my
Batman voice my mother's name isDamaris there as well.
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Yeah. The Batman voice was like it
completely honestly. If I'm right, I think the
original Dark Knight with Heath Ledger that came out when I was
in like high school. So it was a long time ago for
me, oh my God, I said that on DVD it's a good movie DVDs for
all of you who don't know DVDs. Wow diesel before streaming Oh
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weird is dating ourselves left and right here.
Okay. Back to your dark Strangler.
But regardless, we're going to start with everything that we
start with the beginning. Earl Nelson was actually born
Earl Leonard Farrell on May 12, 1897, in San Francisco,
California to Frances Nelson an English woman and James Farrow.
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A Spanish, man. Both of his parents died from
syphilis. France has passed away.
When I was only nine months old and James past, six months
later, he was sent to live with his maternal grandmother Jenny.
Jenny Nelson who promptly changed his name from Farrell to
Nelson, the sources, don't really say why.
But I am just imagining that thereason why she did this is
because her daughter died from syphilis that she got from her
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spouse only makes sense. Apparently, there were tests
that you were supposed to do before you got married to some
money. Yeah, they were considered like,
you took like a spousal STD testlike 100 years ago, to make sure
that your spouse didn't have like a tertiary.
Hello. Well, that should be like a
common thing now to we do listen, you know, people don't
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do nothing. I'm just saying that should be a
thing. People are like, what's herpes?
We good I'm sure. We gonna tell people yeah, until
people. Oh my God, it's awful.
No, don't date. Just dumping dating sucks.
Y'all back on target? Yeah, Earl grew up with his
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grandmother's, two children, technically, his aunt Lily.
Ian and his uncle will has, theywere 10 and 18 years older than
him. So he 10 and 8 years, older
Jenny was a devout Pentecostal woman and religion was a huge
part of Earl's life from young to old after doing some after we
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talked about. Again.
Like we did two weeks ago, I wasdefinitely looking up the
connection with like these religious women and these men's
lives because it seems to keep coming up and so Robert wrestler
the FBI agent, who coined the term serial killer.
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He did that with his team of people the FBI by interviewing
just a tremendous amount of serial killers and rest was
released a bunch of books. But the one that I was looking
at, he said that in two-thirds of serial killers, he profiled.
They all had a dominant female presence in their life
specifically in their formative years and there were there was
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no father figure in the home. But But by the time, these
serial killers men, reach 12 years old.
And, of course, I'm not saying that single moms are raising
serial killers, but it is a veryinteresting consistent thing,
especially once it's then added with the very dogmatic
aggressive religion. Yeah, which describes a gheens
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mother as in the same as JD Nelson because it is like
pressured on to them to then at that time, at that point.
Yeah. And I'm just, I do hate the
concept of religion. I think it can be very helpful
to a lot of People. But man, do I know how it has
completely destroyed. So many people, I know
personally, I have friends whosefamilies were part of Cults, who
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are a reprobate harmed. Like complete obsession with
religion, seems to always be unhealthy.
Mmm, I guess that's just the wayyou can't anything.
You're addicted to is bad for you, so it's true.
But, you know, regardless Jenny was trying to raise these kids
and to God-fearing people to shewas very Stern, a little bit
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distant, overworked yourself, you know, now, having three kids
to raise and it wasn't like she didn't care about Earl.
But from a young age he was definitely kind of troubled.
He was really morbid, which is weird for small kids.
He was often hyper and very depressed Harold.
Schechter wrote about how he atelike, an animal.
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And he would cover his food and olive oil.
And then dip his face into the plate, and slurp it up like a
dog, which his aunt and uncle found disgusting.
And they actually made fun of him for it, which I would only
expect, like, regardless even ifhe's what, like, so he when he
came into the household he was what like a year old.
So the one boy would have been nine when he came in and the
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other girl like 11. Okay.
And so now this is like this five year old.
Who's like, we wrap it up food at the table.
Well, and if you do these 5, that means the other boy is
Almost like pretty teenagers. Yeah.
They're yeah. They're both in their teenage
years. Yeah.
So injures are harsh. Okay.
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Yeah, I'll kids are. But Earl never felt like he had
siblings even though that's whatJenny wanted for him.
And I think that's really important, too.
Because our lovely Robert wrestler wrote about serial
killers, having a struggle to bond, and make attachments early
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in their life and you have children, and I work with
children. So, you know, that kids These
are particularly vulnerable in the way that they fall in love
with everyone. They meet, yes, you can take
your kid on a walk around the block and all of a sudden, like
your neighbor, you never met until just now is your best
friend. Like that's how they are.
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You know, I start every year listen and a week later.
I love you Miss Brittany and I'mlike oh that's very nice.
Thank you listen these kids and every time I take things like
drive through McDonald's they have to say hi.
To the cashiers. Every time I need to say hi.
I need to say hi. I was like you don't have to
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choose. I want to.
Yeah, I was at a restaurant withmy best friend, a couple weeks
ago, we went to the guy that really nice crab place over here
the mall. And there was a little kid
sitting not far from us who said, hi to literally everyone
who walked by her. Like, and the thing was, she was
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sitting there eating her shrimp,her little fried Add a little
clams or whatever was in her little basket from her and she
would stop. Hi, hi, hi.
Oh my God. You know, that's just how
children are and so That's the norm kids are very trusting and
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open and sweet. They are the best part of our
society until Society, destroys us, and we become grown-ups.
But I just I can't imagine meeting this like Sullen
six-year-old with these like intense mood swings or he goes
from like, okay to like violencewho doesn't like?
Anybody doesn't know how to makeany friends, has no like bonds
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with any of his family members, like, that's who Talking about
when we discuss Earl Nelson, as a child, like he's hitting all
the markers that are going to make him a serial killer fairly
soon. Other weird things that happen
when he was little. He would leave home dressed for
school and he will return home and dirty but distinctly
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different clothing. So, how was that?
That's the question. How is he finding kids close to
that are dirty and worn? Where are you getting these
from? Are you trading with is this a
trade situation? Like, you know, kids trade food
at lunch? Like, what is going on?
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Did you know? I don't know.
I don't get that. Where do you get these articles
from Sir? Exactly.
He also had a really, like I said, he's a horrible, temper
that violence a drop of a dime. He would steal from, like, the
local shops. And his grandmother was like
often called to deal with him. Being detained for shoplifting.
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In fact, he got expelled from the, it's a gosse's primary
school before like second grade,he was seven years old.
Oh my God. So that's also really hard to
get. I feel like it's hard to get
expelled when you're that young.Yeah, it's from the kind of just
want to push you. I've hit that he's got trouble
forming bonds. He's got this dogmatic, female
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figure. What's the thing?
He doesn't have yet Brian, his head injury, where right?
He's about to though because what he's 11, he's showing off
to the kids, in the neighborhoodon a bike that he got from his
uncle and he's racing the the, the trolley.
And as he's going ahead of the trolley, the trial, eclipses
back wheel because the trolley can't stop.
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Yeah, he crashes head first intothe ground, he spends the next
week just in and out of Consciousness.
It takes two weeks for him to even be like normal again.
And of course, like we know, head injuries, exacerbate,
mental illness and serial killers.
So, this is the thing that was, I believe, kind of like the
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beginning of this, is about to go really mad Earl's grandmother
dies. When he is 14 years old and
Aunt, Lillian feels bad for him and she's like, you can come
stay with me. No discussion about will will,
never, is there for this kid. I realized that as I was going
through my notes, we never hear from Uncle.
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Ever again. No dude.
Oh wow. Looks like you're weird and I
don't like you, the peace out, but by 14 early dropped out of
school Lillian was 24 and she genuinely cared for this kid
even with all of his strangenessbut his psychotic behavior.
Just got worse. After the head injury, he would
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talk to people. Nobody could see.
He began obsessing over the Bible and quoting verses he
particularly was into Elation Lillian discovered that when he
came home and those dirty clothes.
Those were from homeless people.From homeless children.
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No, I don't know about the children time, but at least when
he was 14 he was going like he was taking the clothes of
homeless people and maybe leaving his clothes behind like
there's so many questions here. Like okay so I have a theory.
Maybe he was grabbing third dirty clothes from somebody's
laundry. That's a good idea.
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Maybe was just stealing stuff hedid like to steal.
Yeah because yeah exactly. So maybe you just walking by
someone's Backyard is either clothes hanging.
Oh, gosh, even worse. Like, the clothes aren't are
like, he's like just reaching into a window and grabbing a bag
of dirty clothes. Exactly.
And just walking away with him. I can imagine that that makes
sense. Yeah.
But we're like, where else woulda chunky cool worn.
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But then again, I mean, this is the time period people did a lot
of hard labor. So your clothes being worn is an
uncommon especially as people made their own clothes back
then. So like listen, if you made your
own pants, you're wearing those bad boys.
Till they were holding. This is true.
Oh goodness. Yes.
But at 14 Earl out of school. He's like all right I'm gonna
try and work can't keep a job like if he made it to a month
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that was impressive he wasn't really fond of doing a lot of
work. He would something like say he
like agreed to like work on likea construction site for the day
and make like a day rate. Like even doing something as
simple as like just being like acarry and stuff from one side of
the other random. Do the day he would just be like
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I'm done. No.
Just walk off the job site and never come back.
I'll punch him so hard. He also never grew out of his
anger from his youth. He was still very angry kid and
even though Lillian loved him, she was afraid of him.
She gave a lot of like, interviews after he got caught
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and she talked about how strangehe was when he was young.
Like, now we get into another aspect.
Of serial killers, a lot of themhaving really bizarre.
Sexual urges at a young age? Yeah, I believe you remember
that. That one who said that.
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It was his parents job to teach him about sex.
Oh, yeah, I'd denied him. Oh my God, the joy of
bisexuality and that they were supposed to have manually
stimulated him at six years old.Yeah, that's how you do this.
I told you that we were. We, I do.
Hope I have a whole bucket. Yeah.
Okay. No.
You told me that? Yes, I did tell you about that
because I remember hearing aboutthat.
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I was like, oh my God. That was Herbert Mullin.
I knew it was unfortunately, that's also another thing that
wrestler has noticed. It's very common that serial
killers have some level of sexual dysfunction even if they
are not Sexual killers. They still struggle with the
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ability to be a regular person. So Earl was a compulsive
masturbator, and wrestler says that 80% of the people, he
profiled have a sexual dysfunction of some kind.
No, wait, hold on this. Chronic masturbation caught all
the time. Really all the time.
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I'm sorry, fellows. and it's really not good for you
physically or emotionally to rely on the endorphins that you
are getting from said orgasm. Hmm, in the same way that also,
if you were compulsively having sex with strangers, it's also
not good for you, okay? Because what the person is doing
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is they're getting high off of the relief.
What do you have just dailies? Is it like want to tie it once a
day or like four hours? Every move is like, daily with
your partner. It's different usually.
That's people, you know, enriching their lives
relationship but you could absolutely Lutely be dating.
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Somebody who has a problem like that.
I think about that a lot with Ted Bundy.
He was able to carry on with normal relationships, but he was
definitely sexually dysfunctional.
Okay, yeah. So he was able to fake the funk
at least until he couldn't. Yeah.
And then you'll, yeah. But he lost control and then he
went on a spree, so yeah. But uh, Earl on top of the
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compulsive masturbation star, hedaydreamed all the time.
He lived in this, Fantasy world.He was constantly like out of
it. He started visiting brothels
when he was 15 years old near the Fisherman's Wharf and there
he contracted a venereal disease150 year old it.
Well he's always reported as being a stocky guy and the a lot
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of pieces that he was tall too. Now I know based on when I
looked up that he's about 58, I just don't know is 58 really
tall in 1920 it might have been because we are a taller people
now. They're 100 years ago, maybe
maybe because you're taller thanhe is.
Yeah, but he every report was like he's a tall stocky guy so
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he also started going to bars toand they didn't check them there
either. Okay, Colonel is on it.
Well, as we just now, there are laws before I was like, you got
money. All right, we'll take your beer,
take your patronage. So he started going on these
like a multi-day, Benders any money.
He didn't give his aunt to pay his Like pay the bills or help
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with the house. He would just drink and he would
come back days later. Just jacked up.
Bruises bloody like he got in a bunch of fights and there wasn't
a whole lot that Lily could do. Like she had two kids of her
own. She was very aware, that her
nephew was mentally ill, but shewas just like, and listen,
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sometimes I good times, he used to do all sorts of jokes and
tricks and he would like, jump around and he would like walk on
his hands and make the kids laugh and He would lift heavy
object with his teeth, like he was a sideshow free.
Wow. And one thing Lillian, another
reason why she didn't kick him out right away to is because he
was making money. She didn't know how he was
making money. She definitely had an idea that
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it was illegal. He was making a lot of money and
he was definitely able to help the household that way.
So, she really, especially cuz he was gone for weeks at a time.
Like, he'd stop by probably dropoff, like 20 bucks and then
leave. He's a mule some short, he had
if I think so. I think he was doing something
with drugs. So she was like, Like listen,
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you're always welcome here whatevs, but then spring of 1915
roll, Lisa's house to go on one of his random walkabouts.
He the older he got the more Restless he was, he would just
disappear for weeks and then notthey weren't always like the you
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know, Benders. Sometimes he just wanted to be
away and on this day, he was outin the middle of the Wilderness
and he broke into what he thought.
Thought was an abandoned cabin. And he got surprised when the
owner came back, he like fled into the woods, but he got
chased and caught open-and-shut case.
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He was convicted of burglary sentenced to two years in San
Quentin prison. And this definitely kind of fix
the issue about Lily and being worried about what he might do.
Because he wasn't there for two years, he spent that time with
really no issues. He emerged from jail, right?
As America was being drawn in the world.
War one, he enlisted in the Armyas Earl Farrell, he probably
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realized the Army not for him. So he went AWOL and headed to
Salt Lake City, okay? But you didn't like Utah.
So he re-enlisted in the military who does this time the
Navy he was assigned as a cook in San Francisco and just like
every other job. Quit, you know it.
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He went AWOL again after a month.
Oh my God. He flooded from job to job.
Job in the Bay Area, for about two months before, enlisting in
the military, again, as a medical corpsman.
Are you listening bag in? He kept applying the different
branches? Come on.
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So he'd already gone AWOL from the army that he wants the Navy.
Then he left the Navy. And he went back to the Army and
he's like, ah, sorry y'all, I'm back.
I'm ready to be a soldier and the military.
He was there for like, a couple of weeks and they were like, He
needs to be evaluated by a doctor God, so he was like,
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yeah, no, I'm good. And he left again and this time,
he went back to the military, went back to the Navy and the
Navy was like, we really need people right now, you know,
World War happening. So they let him back into the
Navy. Wasn't there are forced to go to
their Wares immediately take you.
Um, but like he was like I want to be in the Navy but I don't
want to work and he's Started like prophesizing about the
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apocalypse while he was there like on base and so they were
like, we're gonna forcibly, takehim to the Napa state mental
hospital and he is 21 at this point.
His intake interview is weird. He's like, listen, I used to
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masturbate every day but I stopped when I was 18.
He's like, I am an alcoholic, but I haven't had a drink in the
last seven months. Hmm, they do a blood test.
They find that he has both gonorrhea and syphilis know what
she's gotten before he was even 16 years old.
He's obsessed with God and the Bible.
And on top of that, he kept trying to escape And he managed
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to do it twice. during the 13 months, he lived there, and he,
but the Escape Escape attempts were so frequent that other
patients called him Houdini Well, you didn't get away.
Always on time, they're like, upHoudini's at it again, my boy
Houdini. So the third time he escapes is
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in 1919 and at that point, I think the hospital staff had had
enough to get the hell out of here.
They're like, listen we're not going to force him to stay here.
We know the military says he hasto be here, but we're tired of
having to chase him down whenever he if someone leaves an
open door, there's Earl riding again.
Thank God. So they like pretty much just
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told him military. Yeah.
You should cut your losses with this one and then the military
discharge him. And in his records it's wrote
and quotations. Improved improved.
He had not improved by any, he was still very violent
destructive and heading right towards homicidal.
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God shortly after his Escape, hecame back to on Lillian and she
was like, I got discharged for them.
Terry. And she's like, okay.
And she's like, well, I can helpyou get a job.
So he became a janitor at st. Mary's Hospital there he met the
woman of his dreams. Or the woman of his creepy
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fantasy because he met Mary Martin, who was 58 years old and
looked just like his grandmother.
Oh, so it's creepy fetish deed. And Earl was in love.
Uh-huh. He almost immediately began
talking to her about marriage and Mary was like well here I
am. I'm 58.
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There's this attractive. What like late 20s, young man.
Who wants to be with me? She's Trying to get her groove
back. Apparently.
And so she accepts. And we got nothing suspicious
about this at all. Listen.
If like, somebody on Tick Tock who looks like, they're like 21
hits on me. I'm like no, you are a child,
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Good-Bye Baby. That's like, you are a baby.
No, thank you. I'm talking to him.
He's, I'm like, sorry. You look like a child actually.
Someone recently, it was like, 28 years old, like sent me a
message and I was just like, oh no, thank you, I'm sorry.
You indeed are an adult's. You are a card-carrying adult
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but it still feels weird. It's just as a personal thing
for me. If at any point I look back at
my life and go. Hmm.
Like right now because it's summertime a lot of our Summer
Camp staff are teenagers. So we like an 18 year old a 20
year old a 22 year old like if at any time I could sit and go
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oh like we talked about stuff and like the other day a song
came on the radio was a Justin Timberlake song.
Okay. And so one of the little boys
was like who made the song and so by the one teachers Coast my
age is like I'm not telling you he went to all the other
teachers and ask them and they didn't know because they were
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all children. When these songs came out I got
it wasn't no Justin Timberlake. Well okay so they didn't know
Justin Timberlake The Way I Are when he was with Timbaland.
They know Justin Timberlake. Now as this leg Soulful adult
contemporary singer, they don't know him like we knew him when
he was you know, dirty path likethey don't know that era of
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Justin Lake. So like if you don't know like
if you can't Vibe with me on that music I don't know if I can
talk to you, like one of my friends at work, loves One
Direction. She might even listen to this
love, you Katie, but That's not the same error of music that we
were listening to when you were a teenager listening to One
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Direction I was in college. So yeah, like One Direction.
Yeah. That's remember helping my
uncle. Get a ticket for my 10 year old
niece so she could see One Direction my God.
And I was in high school. I was in college at this point.
So that's just me personally, I don't know what Mary was
thinking about here. Maybe she was just flattered by
the attention of a younger man when a younger man comes on
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comes at Me. I'm like, yeah, sorry.
Well, no, no, no sorry child. No, thank you.
You are children. But Mary accepted his proposal
and she was like, oh, that's gonna be great.
I got this youthful young, man, I can be with what she didn't
realize is that he was a mess and he slipped right back into
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his bad behavior. He was doing the thing where he
would start out one day, wearingclothes and come back wearing
different clothes. Only sometimes he would like, it
would change entirely like some day.
He would come back and, like, come back home.
Like a sailor or like wearing golf clothes and she's like, how
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did you what you still doing? He's even here.
Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're just even, he
started stealing Mary's dresses and like, trying to craft very
poorly made outfits out of them.So he would like, steal the
dress, but still try and turn itinto pants.
Hey, I'm like, why are you taking your girl's clothes?
Yeah, if you get the curtains, then he started refusing to
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bathe which worked opposite. Sit of the whole sexual
dysfunction issue because you want her to have sex with you
Earl but you smell bad so she refused you see the problem here
sir. And so then he would like
masturbate next to her in bed and she was scandalized because
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she was a good Christian woman and Catholics never masturbate.
At least according to what I wastaught in Catholic.
So you have sex, well, they're married.
Okay, but it was, I don't know, you're not supposed to
masturbate a quarter. I listen.
Remember this from high school and we were confused then and
I'm still confused about it. I'll never understand y'all.
It was some Bible verse about how your seeds not supposed to
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hit the ground. It doesn't hit a sock.
It's a sock in his to tell, it'swhatever, whatever but we were
told in high school, you're not supposed to masturbate.
Whatever. And I will say this for Earl he
was initially kind to marry his love.
However, did kind of shift into some pretty unruly
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possessiveness jealousy. He would get mad if she took a
phone call from her brother, he would hit walls or throw things.
If he thought she had been like too friendly to like the
mailman. Oh my God.
And she's like, I just, I just accepted the mail and was like,
thank you. Yeah, he's like, that's too
much. I said, thanks.
For giving my mail not going through it.
God, you know, and having been like, are very aggressive, like,
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a abusive relationship like people do react that way.
They're like, huh, yeah, that smile was, you know, let him
know. He could come back and deliver
his mail later. Like it's bizarre tomorrow.
Yeah. If he is a package for me,
please? Yeah, I bet you want his
package, don't you? I want the package.
I ordered. That's exactly what that's like
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the weirdness. That that, that that It's awful.
But so it's probably no surpriseto you that he married a woman
who look like his on, I'm his grandmother and that would be
the woman that he would. The kind of women that he would
kill at least in the beginning before he come lost, complete
control of everything. It's very symbolic that that
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he's at this point. He's only showing like the, like
sexual predation. He's not doing anything about
these these desires yet, but this, the symbolic Like the
victimology here is a lot. And for a small Time, Mary
satisfied, his urges, I think that were linked to this
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symbolism. Those feelings about his, his
mother figure. But eventually he started, he
looked elsewhere. Earl began to have these
migraines, that no one could fix.
And it happened. He had one while he was at work,
and he was on a ladder, and he fell down and hit his head
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again, where he was knocked unconscious.
Double hit injury, double homicide.
Ha ha, ha, ha. It happens all the time.
Two days later, though. He went back to work, he was
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like, I'm fine. But it wasn't because he was
seeing these persistent visions and hearing voices that were
religious. He was more violent and paranoid
with Mary. And one day they got into like a
regular fight, he got into firststarted at the hospital, he got
into an argument with somebody at work and then he went home
and he got into a fight with Mary, about how he wanted to
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leave Palo Alto where they had their house, but she was like,
no, I'm not leaving my job, it'sa good job, it's fine.
So he left without her. And the next day he like came
back. He was like, no, no, I still
want to be with you come back. And she was like no, no, thank
you which honestly probably saved her life.
Yeah. That kept Mary from being the
first, his first murder victim. She walked out on me to hell.
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So our own set out to vent his frustrations and anger on women.
So he tried to jump right into doing the murder thing.
But he failed his first victim was 12 and she was playing
inside of her home and he saw her through a window.
So he pretended to be like Gaspsguy and he said that he had to
come fix a gas leak and he walked in and he like tried to
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strangle the little girl. The brother, of course hurt her
and was soon as he saw the otherman, he like, let the little
girl go and he ran outside wherethe brother chased him.
They got into a fistfight, Earl got one, good hidden and knock
the guy down and then he took off, police searched the whole
area and two hours later they found him on a trolley.
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Just sitting there pretending like it happened.
Well yeah, the mug shot after that attack, he's jacked up.
He's got scratches on his face from the little girl.
He took a couple face shots his first night in prison.
He like the guards are freaked out because he is screaming
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about there being faces in the walls and he is plucking out.
His eyebrows by hand, they Mary gets a phone call from the Leaf
and they're like, your husband'sin jail but we're sending him to
a hospital. So, Mary arrives at the
hospital, and he is strapped to a bed in a straitjacket, crying
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and screaming about the faces. He can see in the wall and
Mary's, just like, oh wow, I married someone who's really
messed out. Yep, also there at the hospital,
she learned about him. Leaving the military three times
before getting discharged. He told come back, please.
He's but she decided she was gonna stick with him and support
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him because he was going to be involuntarily held at the
hospital. A month later.
He's taken to trial and there are psychiatrists who are like,
well, we met with him, you know,and he's kind of apathetic and
eccentric than just, you know, destructive and he has a hairpin
trigger. They're also like he's very
dangerous and he's very depressed and they like, we
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can't support releasing him to his wife.
Or to himself. He's gonna hurt her or somebody
else. So the judge is like, oh, cool,
absolutely. I support with this.
And so they file a commitment order saying that he's dangerous
to the public and they're going to send him to a mental
institution. Unfortunately, they just didn't
realize that they were sending him to the same mental
institution where he'd been and escaped from three times, Napa
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State Hospital. And now, but they diagnosed him
with constitutional psychopathy which with outbreaks of
psychosis. So, essentially they're saying
that like, he has these psychotic like these psychotic
breaks but that ultimately, he does know what's going on and he
understands what's happening to him.
Unlike maybe someone who's a paranoid schizophrenic who is
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fully enveloped in the fantasy going on in their brain, right?
Right. They were aware of the escapes
before that was still on his record, so they decided that if
he wasn't in his room that was locked, he was going to be
restrained. And even then even while he was
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completely bound feet in hand, he tried to run away twice the
first week. Oh, where's Hugo thing is buddy.
What you do? Like take like four steps of
fall over. Yeah, they put him on anti
syphilis drug because I'm not, anybody knows this.
But when you have syphilis for aProlonged period of time it
travels to your brain and it begins.
Wreaking havoc on your brain. It mad cow disease, is your
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head, you don't eat it. So the anti syphilis drug is
supposed to slow that process down.
We didn't have Penicillin at thetime.
So, we didn't know that that could cure you, the drug is
called slaver, sem, and it improved him a little bit.
The first year, he was really Cooperative with his treatment.
He showed he could do basic tasks, talk to people normally.
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But he wouldn't let go of the religious fixation and
therefore, they were like, yeah,we can't release you because
you're still talking like a creepy Christian.
It was kind of short lived though, at about the 18 month,
Mark, where he was at Napa, his medical records show that his
behavior has shifted. He was frequently agitated very
sad, the words. Quiet and Restless were used a
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lot in the documents. Earl's started refusing his
treatment. Like he stopped taking the
syphilis drug and he even told doctors, yeah, I'm gonna leave
soon and on November 2nd 1923 that's what he did.
He showed up at his aunt lilian's house in the middle of
the night. This is a direct quote from the
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local San Francisco newspaper. He had his face right against
the glass with a horrible crazy hat on.
And I let out a terrible scream because he looked awfully
insane. His eyes were just black glaring
at me and the children rushed upto me and of course I opened the
door because he was my own fleshand can and I loved him.
Well Ian gave him some clothes from her husband's closet, but
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she told him, oh, it's probably not safe for you to be here
because the hospital knows. I'm your only next of kin and he
was like, yeah, you're right. And he ran off into the
darkness. My God, Lillian immediately
calls the police and at the hospital and tells them Earl was
just here. They gets picked up on the
street by police. Two days later they take him
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back to Napa. He's there for another 16
months. At that point, there aren't that
many entries into his medical records.
Other than a final note that says, discharged and improved.
Earl convinces, Mary, he's been cured and she takes them back in
with a couple weeks and he starts wandering off again.
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His first official victim is Claire Newman.
She's 62 years old. She operated several boarding
houses in San Francisco. She was actually like an awesome
business lady. She had properties on the east
coast. To, I don't know how you managed
to operate multiple properties. With just your phone, she
couldn't like take a plane and go visit.
Visit, you don't go but she was doing and she had family out
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there to help her. She was known for being very
Stern with her borders. She kept a tidy Place.
Took no Guff. She's like she the main thing
she asked you. When you came was a, are you a
sailor? Do you drink?
She didn't want any Sailors are drunkards and at home.
Well, good thing. He's, he quit being so well
shortly after she put a sign up in one of the windows saying
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that there was a vacancy in the home that she stayed in Rome
Nelson showed up. Dressed in a suit, and he asked
her about the sign. He gave her a fake name and she
let him, it was a quiet, February day, very cold, and
Earl, didn't have any idea if she was alone.
In fact, Claire, his nephew had just returned after dropping off
his wife and daughter to go to the store and to see a movie,
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his name was Martin Newman and ashort while later he came
downstairs to check on the furnace.
And he saw that there was food on the stove in the kitchen.
And it was still like Like hot. Like the grease was still in the
pan. And he saw Earl Nelson putting
his hat on and leaving and Merton was like hey what are you
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doing here? And URLs like tell the landlady,
I'll return an hour. I wish to rent the bedroom and
he turned and he left and Mertonwas like that's weird and he
went to the door but Earl was already gone when he looked
outside. Hey, mr.
An I think so too, myrn worked on the furnace, went back
upstairs to do his own chores. And several hours later, he came
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back down to see that the food on the stove was, Still there.
But now it was like cold and like the Greece had turned, you
know, that white solidified color and he asked the other
residents like hey if you see myaunt and they're like, no, so
they all begin searching the whole house, they find Clara's
body, there's lots of reports about it, but that she was found
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in the bathroom, she was on the toilet.
The one that makes the most sense is that she was found
inside the vacant apartment. Her clothing was pulled up to
her waist indicating that there was a sexual assault.
And she had been strangled but she hadn't been violated while
she was alive. It was always afterward.
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That was only included in the autopsy report and not initially
released to the public. Two weeks later a second woman
in San Jose. Her name Laura Beal.
She's killed in the same manner.She was also older, she was a
rooming house manager, her husband returned home and found
her missing. He gathered all the people in
the house and they all searched everywhere they found her nude,
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from the waist down in the vacant apartment.
She'll also been strangled with the silk Belt from her housecoat
pulled so tightly. It cut into her skin.
You're also violated postmortem,the newspapers were very quickly
like well, you know, there's twowomen who were all killed at
rooming houses. This is a pattern coincidence.
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They're like this is seems like the same guys doing all that.
Hmm, police get, loads of tips. No leads found though.
All they have is Merle Newman's Martin Newman's description, his
tall tan white man, With a suit on and a hat.
Another woman had seen a sallow-faced man leaving the
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beal house, but that was it. And so the Bay Area named him,
the dark Strangler, and it was Sensational for a little bit,
and I forgot about him. The police were like, well, he
hasn't struck again. So I guess he's moved on.
I guess, he's gone. Because that was February.
Hmm, next murder happens. June 26.
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He meets Lillian St. Mary and you're going to notice
this, but so many of these victims are named Mary Jenny.
Hmm, I don't know if that's on purpose.
Did he walk from boarding room? Boarding, house to boarding
house until he found someone whohad a name.
Similar to his wife or his grandmother.
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He's weird. Anyway, my name is Lillian say
Mary and he found her through the classified ads, she was a
widow and she had been taking inboarders to supplement.
Her income at her house, Earl came to look at the vacancies
and as soon as they were in an empty room he attacked her there
were other borders in this housethough.
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That they said they'd never heard anything and they only
stopped to even look at the apartment because it was still
open, hmm. When that guy.
Why found mrs. Saint Mary on the bad.
Her clothes were torn. Her legs are open.
Autopsy showed that while he waschoking her.
He had sat his entire weight on her chest so insult to injury in
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Crusher. Yeah.
After assaulting her corpse he neatly folded up her coat and
hat and sat next to her on the bed.
She had actually been getting ready to leave when he saw when
he came in and he left so quietly that the man who lived
below that apartment heard nothing.
Not even footsteps, that's crazy.
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So, police definitely do, it wasthe same guy, but you can't do a
whole lot with a description, inSan Francisco of tall white guy.
So this time, a trolley conductor had seen a big man
acting weird near, the Saint Mary's house.
The Press were like he slips in and out of the houses, like a
specter, like, a ghost, why Channel?
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And, like I said, I think it's funny because it's not that he
was particularly incredible at murder.
He was just easily forgettable and unassuming.
He was a Big white guy, he wasn't particularly attractive
or hideous. He wasn't overly tall or short.
He was just regular and because he was regular nobody noticed
him very unassuming. The police.
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However, in San Francisco were like, listen, I'm gonna need
y'all to stop just accepting people into your houses.
I know y'all are trying to make money but like, can you not do
that for two months? Nothing happens.
Everybody in California. Kind of breathes, a sigh of
relief which is exactly what needed to happen for him to
strike again, of course. Next time wave happens in Santa
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Barbara, which is six miles south of San Francisco.
Santa Barbara, like a now, it's still a very beautiful beach
town, but in the 1920s, it was avery, very small Resort town,
full of Travelers, transient people and boarding houses.
So it was the perfect place for him to do.
What he does. His next victim is Ali Russell,
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she's 53. She lived with her husband and I
was slightly older house. One of the borders woke up in
the middle of the night to hear a banging coming from next door.
There was a door that separated their room, kind of like, in a
hotel. Those like, when a room shares,
conjoining you. And so, he decides to look
through the keyhole and he sees man thrusting into a woman kind
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of embarrassed. His name was William Franny.
He's like oh I should like not look.
Yeah, but like he gets curious and then he looks again.
He sees the man's wearing like adingy gray suit and the more he
looks at it, he's like that. Looks like Ali my landlady.
Huh. So he watches as the man gets
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dressed puts on his hat and leaves the room, he hears the
hallway, door closed, the steps,go downstairs and then as he's
watching, he's like is that blood on the bed?
So he goes to find mr. Russell and the two men
returned, they open the door andthey find that Ali is actually
beaten pretty badly. So at some point she must have
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fought back. She'd been hit in the face
before she was strangled cord was pulled around her neck to
the point that he had cut into her skin and that's why there
was blood. This was the first time that the
police just said whatever he's anecrophiliac just letting you
know. Thanks, thanks for that.
This is what he's been doing. Next, kill happens in Oakland
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California. So now we're back up, north
Steven, Nesbitt returns home on June, 26, his wife had started
dinner, but everything was sitting on the counter.
Her purse was even still in her bedroom, so, he waits for a
little bit and when she doesn't come home after like an hour or
two, he organizes the late, the neighbors to look for her
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Stephen being aware of the news.Assumes the worst and he was
right. And one of the empty units.
On the second floor of the home,they found Mary.
She was the most abuse victims so far.
She had been suffocated by a dish towel that she must have
had with her. Her head had been slammed into
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the floor, the tile on the floorwith such force that some of her
teeth were on the ground. They said that there was blood
on every surface. He had strangled her with such
force that that same dish challenge. cute must have pulled
out of her mouth and wrapped it around her neck and I ripped
while he was strangling her, In Portland, he's heading north
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again, October 19, betta Withers, she's 30-something and
divorced. She's a 15 year old son.
They find her murdered in the Attic of the boarding home.
He had stuffed her body inside of a trunk.
Two days later. Virginia Grant is found dead and
stuffed inside of her furnace inthe basement.
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She had been strangled assaultedafter death and he had stolen
some stuff from her including money.
He's just upgrading after every time a few days.
After that, Mabel fluke is foundstrangled in The Salted, he'd
hidden her in the crawl, space in the Attic of her home and
this little spree was a definiteshift in our own behavior first.
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The crimes were more violent while the women were Live.
They were happening in faster and faster secession.
Now he was trying to hide the bodies and anybody who's watched
enough Criminal Minds knows thatthe The Hiding aspect of this is
either a forensic countermeasureor it's a sign of shame or you
guilty you feel guilty about doing what you're doing.
The the feeling of Shame doesn'tmatch him.
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He didn't seem to care before I think for me I think it's more
of the forensic countermeasure. He was trying to give himself a
Chance to get away but none of these hiding spaces were good
because they still found the lady within hours of her death.
He briefly stops in San Francisco and murders.
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A 56 year old woman, Anna. Edmonds on November. 20 on
November 18th. The police weren't originally
sure it was him. And then one of Anna's friends
was, like, I saw her talking to this tall, man, who asked her,
if he could buy her house November, 19th day later
Burlington, California 28 year old pregnant woman is attacked
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while showing her home to a potential buyer.
She survives the attack and gives the best description to
the Police yet, she's like he's 58 well-dressed, well-spoken.
He gives off no creepy Vibes. He commented on the molding of
the ceiling in her leg setting area, to get her to look up, so
he could catch her off guard andRubberneck.
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Couple days later. November 23rd, he murders
Florence monks, in Seattle still, some of her jewelry, and
he tries to pawn it. That doesn't work, so he gives
it to the women and the boardinghouse he's staying in.
Gross, disgusting. Ten days later, November 29th?
He murders Blanche Myers. In Portland, Portland.
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Police just said, listen, stop showing your houses to strange,
man. And if there are any men around,
call the police and we will be there when your tenant comes to
look at the property hurt. You know, just get one of your
male friends to help you out twodays.
After Christmas, Bonnie pace of Kansas City.
Missouri is strangled to death in her home.
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December 28th, dramani, a harpinand her eight month old son.
Robert are found in there. Kansas City home, both were
strangled, and I'll leave those details for folks who want to
Google her husband. Found them.
When he came home from work, just awful, that's a terrible.
Yeah, terrible. Terrible sight by the end of
1926. He's murdered 14 women and he's
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seems like he's heading towards Canada.
Also on December 23rd, the body of almora Berard was found and
at Council Bluffs home in Iowa. So I think that's because it's
two days after Christmas was thenext one hour ago.
So, yeah, that's his next attackisn't until April 27th where
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he's in Philadelphia and he murders Mary McConnell.
He robbed her and tried to pawn her jewelry.
Nobody wanted it. On his way, North from
Philadelphia, he murders 53. Year old Jenny Randolph, in
Buffalo New York, on May 27th, she's found under a bed in her
building. Three days later he had
introduced himself as Charles Harrelson to Randolph's brother,
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and the brother and other borders, confirmed that he was
the same guy, June 1st. He's in Detroit, Michigan
boarding, house manager, Fannie,Mae, and Border Marine.
Atrophy are both killed. Their bodies were found by the
building manager ER, who came tocollect the rent.
June 3rd. He murdered Mary caecilius
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seats, mama and Chicago. He also stole men's clothing
from her home. Finally, he makes his way to
Canada. And Canada is where he will, not
he dies in Canada, right? Okay.
He made his way to Winnipeg where he stops at a secondhand
store and he likes cells off, some of that jewelry and all of
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his fancy clothes for workman's clothing and just cash in town.
He met 14 year old Willa Cohen and they believe that was on
June 8th. She was out.
Selling paper flowers. Door-to-door to help her family
as her. Father was recovering from
pneumonia. No, one ever saw.
Earl was Lola, but he must have somehow talked to the coming
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back to the boarding house. He was staying in because they
found her body there. Several days later.
Now he was staying at this woman, her name is Katherine
Hill. Her boarding house with the
money that he had gotten. He'd also stolen money from a
second crime. He did in Winnipeg.
He had broken into the house of Emily Patterson and he murdered
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her two days. After he killed Willa Cohen
Emily. Had been bludgeoned to death
with a claw hammer and stuffed under her bed.
And there's this absolutely tragic story where her husband
is. Like, I prayed to God that,
like, God would show me where Mary was and then like, as he
was standing, Up from bed. He like, accidentally moved the
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blanket. And he saw his wife's favorite
sweater and realized that it washer under the bed.
Yeah, it's terrible. Wait, a peg is in total chaos.
The police are like this Anna. Lee Patterson crime is very
similar to the dark Strangler ifit's happening in the States,
you don't say, well, so WinnipegPolice Department is, like,
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screw this. We're stopping at every boarding
house in the area and we're talking to everybody.
There you go. And they're like, we need to see
all the owners. Are there any landlady's
missing? So, they stopped by Catherine
Hills house and she's like, oh, the only guy who's come by
lately? Was this very nice Christian,
man and he ran the room, but I haven't seen him for a couple
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days, but he paid me up until Friday and he said he would be
back on Friday to pay me more money.
And she's like, it's not that uncommon, because people are up
there for work to be gone for a couple days at a time.
After the police left, though, she got a little curious.
And she's like, let me go check on his room.
She knocks at the door. He doesn't answer and so she
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lets herself in. She said the room stank as if he
had left rotten meat out. And she realized that he hadn't
slept in the bed, and she was like, he must have skipped out
on paying me, the rent. She's like, I'm gonna call the
police and let them know that this guy's not coming back and
then I she's getting ready to leave.
She sees like a mannequin under the bed and she will, she
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realized very quickly, that's the body of our mini kilcullen.
Just like, every other person Lola had been strangled and
assaulted post-mortem stuff in his bed.
Yeah, at this point, I think, You're listening.
Earl is off the rails. He's completely unhinged at this
point. Yeah, he's on the Run.
He's trying to qualities murderous urges.
He's grabbing anybody because a fourteen-year-old doesn't fit
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his pattern of sexual interest at all, but it doesn't matter to
him. He just grabbed somebody.
He saw on the street, he's got alot going on for him though
because the entire Royal Canadian Mounted Police are
looking for him. There is fifteen hundred dollar
reward out for his capture and and worse.
He's a foreigner. So he's not talking like the
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locals, he doesn't look like thelocals, he's not using the right
word sticking out like a sore thumb.
Yep. And so he's like, I'm just going
to try and hit you right back tothe US border, which only made
it easier for the police to track his movements because
other people were like, yeah. So we definitely saw this
american guy, he dropped I'm offdown the road that way he makes
it, almost the US border five miles away when a cop catches up
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with him. See, at this point, his
description had been given to been given to all of the Border
towns in the entire Province. And when he stopped for food and
will Copa, he was recognized andthey like very discreetly like
called the cops and were like, he's here, he got about a mile
and a half away from what Copa when a constable stopped him and
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this. Took no chances drew his gun on
him. Immediately was like I need you
to like stop Earl surrenders, and he's taken to the Killarney
Manitoba jail. He tells them his name is Virgil
Wilson. He's just a day laborer, and he
has no idea who this dark stranger is dark.
Strangler person is, oh my God, he cooperates fully and he's
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like so helpful and nice that the police are like, do we have
the right guy? Yes.
Well, they put them into a jail cell and unfortunately like like
this jail was pretty old. The Constable locks him up even
though he's having like in a second thoughts.
But they put him in a jail cell the way that they used to do
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which was no shoes. No socks and no belt.
So you couldn't harm yourself and you couldn't get out.
He goes to tell craft Winnipeg and tell them, we found the
killer. So when he returns to the
prison, he stops to get a cigar in a newspaper.
He's pulling pretty good. And the jail doors are open.
And Earl is gone. Oh my God, the master of
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unlocking Houdini strikes. Again, he managed to find a
wire. Pick the double lock and Escape
without being seen by. Anybody else in the prison.
The Constable quickly forms. Another group, they go outside
searching. Again, the Constable this
points. Like listen, I thought he was a
good guy but because he ran, youknow, he's not in.
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Yeah yeah something to hide Earlfound an old barn and hid there
for the night. Then he found an old sweater and
a pair of ice skates and he removed the blade from the ice
skates and were those issues andstarted walking South.
Harold, Schechter like wrote in his book that Earl probably
thought of himself as Invincibleby now.
And I just got to figure like there's he meets a farmer on the
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road, the farmer recognizes him,but there he is standing with
his big self. We're in this old-ass sweater
with the holes in it, in some ice skates, without the state
part on the bottom. He has to look ridiculous and
he's like, I'm doing a good job.No, one can tell, it's me
obviously disguise. A perfectly.
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Yes. What's that a song from?
The Backyardigans in a super spy.
Oh my God. He thought he was doing.
Is it International? Super Spy thought, he really was
International. Super Spy, he's very quickly
found after the farmer is, like,I left him on that road.
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The Next Step was, they brought in nearly 40 Witnesses, from
both Canada and the US confirming his identity,
Catherine Hill was the nail in the coffin.
As she was like, well, that's the guy who I meant the room to
That's where we found the body. Even Martin Newman, came to
Canada, to point him out. They discovered that his the way
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that he was getting around people recognizing him, was that
before he would go on, Mike, hislittle murder spree, he would
shave his face. Completely clean and clear.
Hmm, and cut his hair short, then he would do the murders and
then he would let his hair grow out as he was traveling.
So, people would be looking for a clean-shaven, man.
And he'd be walking around looking like, you know, a
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Ruffian. Mmm.
He finally admitted that he was Earl Nelson but they were like,
what about this knife? Because when he was in Detroit,
he had cut the cord that he usedto wrap around the righties neck
when the cord on the lamp was still in the wall, right?
They had burned the knife. So they were like, you have this
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burn knife and this was used in Detroit, he's like, listen, I'm
Jew. Christian to kill anybody, what
are you talking about a Christian man?
Wasn't me, hope. Here is the one on man, his
lawyers just decided we're just going to go with the fact that
he's a complete and totally insane and he shouldn't be
allowed to testify on his own behalf.
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As that's happening, indictmentscome down in San Francisco,
Portland, Detroit Philadelphia and buffalo.
However Manitoba's like we got the death penalty.
He gets tried here. First, let us take care of
killing Emily, Patterson and Lola Cohen.
Let's let us do with it. So it was unlikely.
He'd ever make it to the u.s. tobe to see those trials detective
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across North America. Show up to compare notes and
they managed to link Mind you this would never happen.
Now in our current time but theylegitimately all these us,
detectives went up to Manitoba and they sat down with all of
their notes and they linked him to 22 murders across North
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America. Oh yeah.
This is only going to heaven. That would never happen.
Now, people are like so like ego-driven they're like, we
don't care. Yeah.
Is this is your guy, our guy. Let's compare me in affect us at
all. Or did it even though he had?
Like a bunch of Stan's where he didn't do any crime for months
at a time. His average was about one murder
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per month, between February 20th, 1926 to June, 9th, or
10th. 1927, the trial was quick.Open insurance.
It was a circus, but it wasn't nearly as dramatic as some of
the trials have discussed this year.
It was a big deal for Manitoba though because they had never
had anything. This crazy.
They had so many eyewitnesses though confirming.
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He was who he was that the Execution didn't have to do too
much. The worst that they did.
I like the defense attorneys didn't really know how to defend
him so they tried to show that he was like super crazy and he'd
always been crazy as whole life.They had Lily and show up and
she discussed like how terrible they were.
They talked about like his mental illness and Mary was like
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yeah after he hit his head a couple times, he got more
abusive, it was very clear to anybody watching that both Mary
and Lillian were trying to save him from the death penalty, the
prosecution One witness a psychiatrist who called Earl a
constitutional psychopath. That's the second time he's
gotten a diagnosis. So legally saying and aware of
what he's doing, you can leave the rest up to the jury, that's
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where they left that the jury. Found him guilty within an hour,
Judge, Andrew dicer, gave him the death penalty.
And it first, Earl was kind of amotionless, but about two months
after his trial, while he was awaiting his execution, he began
telling everybody, the media. Like he started writing letters.
I'm innocent. He did interviews with reporters
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but he even requested to the high court of Manitoba that they
do in a new trial, but the high court was like, that's okay.
No, we already know. It was you buddy.
We literally found the body of ateenage girl in your bedroom
buddy, underneath your bed day before his execution.
He met with the family of Emily Patterson and Lola Cohen and to
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Lola Cullen's mom's face He was like, I didn't kill your
daughter. I don't know what you're talking
about. Oh my God, gasps lighten.
The next day is hanging came andwent peacefully.
He told reporters he was innocent and he made his peace
with God. He took a step up to the
Gallows, let them put the hood over his head and ironically,
the king like the thing that killed the dark Strangler was
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strangulation, hey, If you're a fan of Hitchcock, Earl Nelson,
story did Inspire the film shadow of a doubt which is about
The Merry Widow murderer, which also has to do with the fact
that these are older. Women are being killed.
Right. Nelson is considered to be the
first serial murderer in American history.
That was widely reported on. And his crimes and trial
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received National media attention, and international
attention, all the way to Australia.
As far as historically, he is considered to be the first
serial lust killer, whose crimeswere completely sexual in
nature. Even though his victims were
dead, when he assaulted them, his crimes were definitely based
in sex, right? Which makes him a lust killer
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and that's the first in 20th century America.
Hey, and that's our horrible boil Nelson.
Very interesting and Just disturbing.
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I'm going to start this off witha little story.
Okay, Nona bear with me because It's I wrote it.
So another writer, but, you know, bear with me.
It set the mood for you guys. The summer heat is killing you.
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Humidity sweat bugs. Yuck.
Just want to get away. You do.
You'll do literally. Anything is escape the Heat.
Sitting at your computer underneath your ceiling fan,
that seems to just make you hotter for some reason.
When you check your emails and says congratulations, you're our
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lucky winner. You entered a contest.
A few months ago for a free tripto Nepal.
It's supposed to be cold. There you immediately pack your
bags and get ready for the trip of your lifetime.
Over your lifetime of the lifetime of your lifetime of a
lifetime. There you go.
I didn't know how to write that.That's forward.
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You're a Nepal, staying a lovelycabin, the weather is perfect,
nice and cool, and no bugs. Choo-Choo, you're little you
like you're spending a relaxing night by the fireplace when you
hear scratching along your cabin, okay?
Probably a tree. Scratching exactly.
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Then there's A thudding sound onthe roof of your cabin.
Maybe an owl makes sense. Yeah, suddenly a pile.
The snow comes down the chimney and knocks out your fire great.
It's dark as fuck in your cabin now Then there's a little Boom.
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At your door. What the heck?
You think the banging continues until your door comes flying in.
while you're hiding in a small kitchen area shivering, you peek
out from the corner and see terrifying sight, A large
hulking beasts standing in the doorway just can't be you say
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impossible is steps in searchingfor something.
Sniffing the air suddenly spots.You lets out a terrifying Roar
as it charges towards you. All you can think is well, at
least I'm not hot anymore. No.
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So I got a question for you. What happens when a snowman has
a tantrum? I don't know.
He has a meltdown. That's cute.
That's good. When I tell my students like a
that they love silly jokes. Oh goodness.
So, what the heck is my talking about today?
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Something that lives in the codeand his abominable and it is is
that I mean, it's a name that it's called that the right name,
it's a name. Okay.
You know we got all these weird names.
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Oh my goodness. They wished me well and finding
someone who is as thick as the Mothman.
Oh my God. Good luck.
The movement do be packing. They cake.
Good luck. Hope you find someone who's got
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a booty, like the Mothman. I was like, that's like my new
favorite way that we should signoff.
Yes, let's do it. So, I'll be talking about the
yeti today. Okay?
Yetiz the yeti whatever. Don't know much about it to be
(01:22:09):
honest. Well, let me let you know some
things about this, this creature.
So it's name roughly translates to the thing.
Which is that. Wait, the thing.
The thing so creative. Yeah, I know, right?
Which is funny because there's amovie.
(01:22:31):
John Carpenter's called the thing.
Yeah. And it's winter in like every
eighth word or if it's hard to get or something like that.
So during a cold spot and they're attacked by an alien
shape-shifter or some type of shape shifting alien.
Maybe it's Loosely, it's an alien but you know, whatever.
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Anyway, I mean, lots of people believe it like stuff from
ancient cultures is aliens. This is true.
I have this like violent angry issue with people thinking that
the pyramids were built by aliens.
Yes, we talked about this with my grey aliens.
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Don't take that away from us. Please don't let us have it.
Up. You know what's funny and talk
about any other original Asian Societies in Africa?
We only talk about Egypt. Let us at least have that.
Then I was going to say something about talk about
later, which is it nothing. I'll talk about later part of
here. Often those out there is this
stuff. I just like that little guy who
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goes, yes, So the yeti or yet a or meant a different names for?
Yeah, it's a large bipedal ape-like creature.
That is the head has either brown or gray or more commonly
(01:23:59):
known white fur. Whoo, are they related or their
American cousins named Bigfoot? I mean, are we really Lee.
They they are, they are closely related.
I'd say, they are both ape-like creatures.
Okay, that's new. I didn't think they were the
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same creature. Not, but you're just.
Do we ever see white one? Like going to see the white ones
in the snow? Yeah, I guess I have many
questions. I mean, the whiteness could just
be from the snow and not just because their fur is white.
I mean, you're saying, Polar bears.
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Polar bear's. Fur is actually clear.
I'm not talking about polar bears on, don't know yet.
He's well if it's brown, it would look Brown on white.
Yeah, but gray would pass, sure.Maybe you're just gray.
Okay? But you said, there's brown ones
too. There are brown ones black like
those cute squirrels. No.
Anyway, sorry that's okay. So the first known reference to
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the yeti is a 1832 issue of the Journal of the Asiana casaya T
of Bengal where Native hunters in a Northern Nepal Providence,
The Province, they spot a hairy until is biped bipedal creature.
(01:25:28):
Okay, know, the writer of this issue is not that the hunters
they saw an orangutan but yeah in Nepal Nepal and the pole.
It's an appalling. I think it's cool that this is
like in a real magazine. Yeah, like some little goofy
(01:25:48):
like, you know, Zine, I'm afraidby a bunch of side people.
It sounds like a real official thing.
I'm pretty sure there's another Cryptid citing now.
These will be in the news to I suppose, but probably as a joke,
someone releasing like the Journal of, like medicine.
And there's a lot of those like really journals that like,
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Collegiate people, write in, andthey reference seeing a Cryptid.
That's like a big deal, right? You're right.
Very true. So yeah, the writer, he thinks
that they may have spotted an orangutan, okay, but why isn't a
racket I'm so far from home exactly.
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Right. Is do not exist in Nepal, they
don't they don't exist in Mainland Asia at all.
I realize I thought they'd have some.
Yeah, we talked about phoolan Devi.
I didn't know until I did that. That like they're straight up
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swamp, Forest areas. In India.
And yeah. So like, hmm.
So in 1921, on an expedition of Mount Everest Or Everest.
Everest Expedition. Coronal.
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CK Howard, berry berry and his buddies.
They found footprints that were three times the size of human
tracks. Now, they had Sherpa, guys with
them with force and the guides said that these Footprints, they
belong to the met. A Meta.
(01:27:41):
It means man-like thing. That's not a man.
So yeah, description of a lot ofthings.
Could you just imagine what if like, you know, somebody was
naming things and they were justlike, that's, it's tree.
Like like you just look at a bush and you're like that's it's
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kind of like a tree. It's just shorter.
Yeah, it's a tree light. It's a tree, like short thing,
I'm sure that free like thing. Oh my God.
But this somehow got mistranslated and turned into
the Abominable Snowman. Somehow some I don't know
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somehow they got met a abominable.
It doesn't even there's no no someone just made that up.
Preferably somebody probably like from Europe or America
because we love to butcher things and what's the true
culture? That's very true.
Now Colonel Howard, Barry said that he's all otherwise he you
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know he knows more than the Sherpas know so he he's growing
up in this area he knows the Lord and all that stuff.
All those stories sure. Considered to be like the
end-all-be-all when it comes to.Yes.
Okay. I'm just confusion.
Oh, good. I was like, I thought that like
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people use the shirt like they could help from the Sherpas when
they cross the what you call it the man.
Yeah. But he he he disagreed.
He said it was just a special brand of jerk.
Yeah, he said it was a. He thought it was a gray wolf
that made these footprints that were three times.
The size of men's a wolf. Like could you imagine like
(01:29:40):
meeting the wolf that had a size30 foot?
That's like dire Wolf's territory?
Like, that's scary. Exactly.
He's like, I'm like, I'm leavingthe mountains then, if that's a
wolf. Exactly.
Yeah. But I'm not particularly fond of
the woods now, and there's just regular old bears and their
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regular sized something bigger than that is terrifying.
This is true. But guess what?
There are any known Wolves and the freaking Himalayas, of
course, of course, you're not. So you're wrong.
So where do you even get that? I don't know.
What does he look like? What?
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I think? He probably.
Yeah. So annoying.
It's just, it's just like Sometimes you had to take a
backseat and let people from an area who know things talk?
Yes, like sometimes you just don't have to talk.
So he's over here telling peoplewho live here and like their job
(01:30:44):
is to know the land and and guide tourists in other people
and help people y'all know what you're talking about, that's a
wolf. That'd be a wolf training bra.
There's a wolf rent anyway, in 1920, I have a fetish for those
Sherpas. They probably did but I'm
offended a British photographer.He spotted this at 13 at 15,000
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feet. By a glacier.
He saw a naked figure and an outline exactly well is this is
quote it's a he saw a naked figure and outline exactly like
a human being walking through the snow. so, There was a
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humanoid figure walking around aglacier, that was naked.
I don't like that. Why don't they have any clothes?
Because they're Yeti movement having clothes that makes that
weird but statue even worse. Well, that means the front.
He's just dangling. Yes.
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Hang on, this is not a man. Was he does?
He just not gender in a gender? Cryptid.
Yeah, hmm. He's called The Mothman.
I assume. That's because he looked like a
my lady doesn't like he look like.
He's looking like a man. Oh my goodness.
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Let's see. Another account.
March 19th. 1954. It was an expedition team out
collecting hairs in the Ping, pangboche monastery.
Now, they are collecting here. Is that they believe where they
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had come from the scalp of a Yeti.
Okay. Well, they brought the hairs to
be analyzed by a mini Professor.What year was this 1954?
The fun thing about this is thatthey're still doing this now.
Hmm. People still find weird hair and
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they can connect it to any living or known creatures.
Sure. And they're like, it's got to be
Yeti or a That's watch Sasquatch.
Yeah. That happened on the show that I
was telling you have to watch. Yes, right Club.
They showed like a toenail that was massive that they thought
belonged to a Bigfoot. Oh my God, I'm going to watch
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it. I'm like this.
Oh my God, there's only watch list. well, I thought about them
after I saw him wear them, so he's an expert in human in
Goodness comparative. Anatomy.
(01:33:47):
So human and compared comparative Anatomy.
Yeah. So after many tests they
couldn't tell what animals he's here.
Came from. So they like cut the hairs.
They bleach the hair is they didso many things you like the
exactly. Yeah.
So they couldn't it's all DNA aspects to.
(01:34:08):
This is fine if it matches ours or not, or other creatures.
Yeah, but they couldn't find outwhat animal belong to but, He
first said that it wasn't from abear or an anthropods 80k, what
it was probably from a hoofed animal.
(01:34:31):
So like a goat. Yeah, but maybe a doesn't match
what it looks like. Maybe a Sheepsquatch.
Squat. Something
(01:34:53):
like this one. So Yeti was supposed to
supposedly had been captured in 2011.
In Russia. Okay, so a hunter he sees his
bare type thing, attacking his sheep and in references today, I
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know he fires his gun off and the creature went away on two
legs. Not for right?
So yeah. What the heck is this big large
thing? So I guess it was captured
afterwards. And then, what was it?
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If they captured it, what was it?
And then they capture a female one as well.
Ryan, what was it? If they captured it, they have
to know what it is. So, apparently, this turned out
to be a hoax. That was, it was either a prank
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or some type of advertisement, take the thing.
Hilarious. Like even if it is a yeti I'm
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like what is this thing? So there are some possible
explanations for what these things that people are seeing.
Are they could be a bear. The Bears are no common around
mountain ridges areas, maybe could be a wolf.
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Yes, far from home. Yes.
Or maybe it's just like, I don'tknow, I'm Missing Link.
Oh yeah, I've heard people say that.
Yeah, maybe between humanity andlike homo sapiens. man, and
yeah, actually, I heard something really interesting
about that which is that there were multiple Versions of a homo
(01:37:11):
whatever. Yeah.
Homo sapiens were the one that we are and they all lived in
different parts of the world, right?
And then they have found the skeletons of other like Homo
erectus and other things and those things have like wounds
like battle wounds so that therewere some kind of homo,
(01:37:34):
whatever, there's a war human Wars and Homo sapiens were just
the winners. Maybe we were just smart enough
to hide if you let those idea. Yeah.
So there are different types of Yeti creatures.
Oh yeah, there are. There's a thing called a Zoot a
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okay, it's translated as big thing.
It's another vast nomenclature, I love it, big thing, big thing,
human-like thing that thing overthere, it's oh, my gosh, it's
John. This is true that John, this
John, if this literally the same, it's John do.
(01:38:25):
Oh goodness, Jon. Jon is a joint.
It's a giant. Oh, it's a drunk.
John J A WN. Yes, that is.
What is happening with this nomenclature there?
Just like assistant. John.
Oh my God. Whatever.
The only thing I've ever seen that's explained.
John correctly. Is that movie with Michael B?
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Jordan, no. Yeah.
Creed. It's a thing.
It's just the word for everything in Philadelphia
thing. It's, it's the word for
everything. Like, you know, everything is a
jolt, anyway. If you sneeze so closer, you get
to understanding that the betteroff life will be for you.
So, this drawing is another animal.
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That's supposed to be a Yeti. I like it's a big hulking
animal. That's usually quadruped at it
though. Hmm, But it can walk as a biped.
So it's kind of like barish Right.
Okay, there's do that. Yeah, so it may be a uncataloged
large bear. I don't like the idea of there
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being Bears, we don't know about.
Yeah, they are quite scary. So this animal, this Zoo to or
Des just to whatever they raid asmall livestock Holdings and
(01:39:50):
leave behind culprits. So yeah.
So this may just be a bear a bear that nobody sings.
It's a very large large bear. Um okay there's another type,
it's called a tear. I'm going to say Tela Maybe, is
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it in an LMA? I'm not, don't say that m is
silent. So, it seems to be related to
arthropods. Like the Proto pygmies.
Okay, so that those are spotted,you know, in the tropical,
(01:40:35):
valleys of Asia. Okay, so those things I guess
this was the major, the major Yeti that had been seen and
discussed by zoologist, Who thought it would be caught. so,
(01:40:57):
I guess they they they have not found it.
This this Tesla or however you pronounce it, okay?
But, you know, they found evidence of its presence being
around like Footprints the so, you know, there are sightings of
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it. They found some stool droppings
from it as well. So, you know, they thought That,
you know, they were only on the trail of, you know, tracking
this thing down and catching it.But by 1960s fail basically they
they kind of ran out of funding for that for catching it.
(01:41:41):
So the it's still on the loose somewhere. but yeah, um Yeah.
Like I said, a lot of bears are mistaken to be yetis and your
Yeti yetiz, yetiz. I don't know.
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I feel like, you feel like Yeti is like moose.
Yeah, never say the ass. Hey, this is mrs.
Moose, that's a squirrel and moose moose and squirrel, and
some squirrel. Okay.
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There are some pop culture references to the yeti.
Of course question, yes. Has anybody ever seen?
Like, has there ever been a first like, you know, like just
people like I was laying in bed and an alien took me up into the
sky and I've been touched by an alien.
So there's a first-hand account have there been any first-hand
accounts of seeing a Yeti? Are you asking if people who
have been touched by a yeti? Like I saw a Yeti, it was right
(01:42:45):
there. Not like it was ten hundred feet
away or like, I saw it up on a mountain.
I'm going to say there are people who Claimed to have seen
it like up close. Okay, so here's a story that I
found while searching for Getty stuff they put up So it's a new
(01:43:06):
story. It's a headline reads artist
claims to had close encounter with Yeti.
Okay? So apparently, this is an artist
who Um, I guess he was doing something his backyard and he,
you know, he sponsors Yeti and the yeti just lets him draw him
(01:43:28):
on a piece of bark. You want to see the picture?
No I'm I'm I just lay out and draw me like one of your French
girls that's basically this is is what the yeti wanted him to
do. So that's the that's the piece
of tree that he drew the yeti onand he the like the yes, let me
(01:43:50):
sketch it and this is like the full picture of what it looked
like a really lovely photo. He's an artist.
Like I mean he's an artist. So I'm going to say I'm glad an
artist got to draw the Eddie. Listen, you see me on Karthik
phone? You're not Oh my God.
(01:44:16):
But yet like, this is like, the only encounter I've seen that
like, hey, yeah, this Yeti was up close to me.
He was nice and friendly. He, let me draw him.
You know, we had a couple bruised afterwards and he went
off hilarious. He went off back into the you
know the Wilderness there was a video on Friday Club there.
This guy he was like just looking out his back window and
(01:44:37):
this very tall creature like runs through the back you guess
his house is like back near a forest and he likes Spazzed out.
And I'm like, that's the only thing I ever kind of see like,
people like those kind of situations.
Yeah. It's just kind of doing its
thing and people are far away. Basically the guy like went back
in his house he was like I'm notwalking out there smart man.
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Oh my goodness. Yeah that's that's why I got
this week 4. Creeps Ryan.
It's still good. It was.
This is fun. Oh goodness.
Nothing spooky that. I was that scary.
No, it's just a Yeti look. So nice whatever they want to
do. Sometimes Cryptids don't have to
be creepy. They can just be interesting,
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the dog and you made me sad the which one Mothman ate the dog.
Don't watch. We don't know what happened to
the dog. I'll never forgive you, he just
Disappeared after spotting them off man.
Nope. Oh my God, you got eight.
The dog may have gotten eaten bythe Mothman giant bug, man, who
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