When Thank You Is Not Enough

When Thank You Is Not Enough

We say, “Thank you for your service.” We say we are “a grateful nation.” But what should we do when “thank you” isn’t enough? Justice for Vets is the leading organization working to assist justice-involved veterans. Emphasizing resiliency and hope, we provide tangible solutions to address critical issues facing our veterans, such as justice involvement, substance use, and trauma. Hosted by Major General (ret.) Clyde “Butch” Tate, each episode of this podcast takes you on a journey with veterans, subject matter experts, and people doing heroic work on behalf of those who have served. The Justice for Vets podcast is made possible with funding from the Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA).


June 19, 2023 16 mins

"So our primary goal is to maintain peace in the community and to repair breaches of that peace. So when there's an offense against an individual or an offense that threatens the community in any way, we go into problem solving mode and we try to do that in a just and fair way."

Season 1 concludes with a discussion with Montgomery County, Texas First Assistant District Attorney Mike Holley. Mike talks about his philosophy as a prose...

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“VTCs [veterans treatment courts] are critical to veterans because many of them I have found are ashamed that they are defendants in criminal courts. They have committed crimes against the very society they have sworn to protect, and it’s a long, hard fall from grace. These veterans really need our help.”

After seeing the success of Kansas’ only veterans treatment court, Kansas Chief Justice Lawton Nuss made the decision to retire e...

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May 15, 2023 21 mins

“These [veterans treatment court] mentors, it's not the traditional mentor model...They're just there to listen. I think we underplay the power of listening."

Todd Kramer is living proof that the justice system can play a role in facilitating treatment and recovery. His story also exemplifies the therapeutic camaraderie that exists among those who serve. Todd served in both the Air Force and the Army and deployed as a 40 year old E5...

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May 2, 2023 22 mins

“I would like to see a veterans treatment court in reach of every veteran that's in need. Let us in the justice system be cognizant of the needs of the veteran. And if there's something we can do to assist them in their journey, let us do that.”

S1E5 profiles a true hero of the veterans treatment court movement, retired Buffalo Judge Robert Russell. In 2008, Judge Russell forever transformed the way the justice system identifies, as...

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“I tell all my buddies, if you tried VA 10 years ago like I did, try us again.” Is the VA a waste of time? Can it really provide the services and care you need? John Boerstler, Chief Veterans Experience Officer at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, joins the podcast to share just how much the VA has expanded, evolved, and modernized post-9/11 to better listen to veterans and respond to meet their unique needs.

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April 3, 2023 24 mins

“Vet Center’s current motto includes the three Cs: connection, camaraderie, and community.” What are Vet Centers? How do they differ from VA hospitals and other VA services? E3 takes a deep dive into Vet Centers, looking at their origin, role, and unique approach to providing mental and behavioral health services to our nation’s veterans. This episode features Laura Felten, director of the Milwaukee Vet Center and former Veterans J...

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March 17, 2023 34 mins

“How do you pull a weed? You get it by its root, so it doesn’t grow back.” E1P2 takes the conversation on trauma and post-traumatic growth to the next level and discusses mental health treatment, therapy, and trauma-informed resources to help veterans recover with James Puckett, a licensed professional counselor and professor of psychology at the University of Wisconsin.

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“It took one thing to be successful in combat; it takes something very different to be successful in my current life.” E1P1 explores the effects of trauma and post-traumatic growth on our military veterans with guest Jaymes Poling, the creator of Modern Warrior LIVE, an immersive music and narrative experience that chronicles his journey through three U.S. Army deployments in Afghanistan and subsequent transition back home.

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